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[SuSE Linux] DS: Microsoft
by Martijn.Rouwen＠epon.nl 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

(( Some Mickey Soft BASHING...very funny..I know it's off topic but better then a laf a day i think)) There was a knock on the door. It was the man from Microsoft... "Not you again," I said. "Sorry," he said, a little sheepishly. "I guess you know why I'm here." Indeed I did. Microsoft's $300 million campaign to promote the Windows 98 operating system was meant to be universally effective, to convince every human being on the planet that Windows 98 was an essential, some would say integral, part of living. Problem was, not everyone had bought it. Specifically, I hadn't bought it. I was the Last Human Being Without Windows 98. And now this little man from Microsoft was at my door, and he wouldn't take no for an answer. "No," I said. "You know I can't take that," he said, pulling out a copy of Windows 98 >from a briefcase. "Come on. Just one copy. That's all we ask." "Not interested." I said. "Look, isn't there someone else youcan go bother for a while? There's got to be someone else onthe planet who doesn't have a copy." "Well, no," The Microsoft man said. "You're the only one." "You can't be serious. Not everyone on the planet has a computer," I said. "Hell, not everyone on the planet has a PC! Some people own Atari's, which run their own operating system. And some people who have PCs run Linux, though I hear that's just a rumor. In short, there are some people who just have no use for Windows 98." The Microsoft man look perplexed. "I'm missing your point," he said. "Use!" I screamed. "Use! Use! Use! Why BUY it, if you can't USE it?" "Well, I don't know anything about this 'use' thing you're going on about," The Microsoft man said. "All I know is that according to our records, everyone else on the planet has a copy." "People without computers?" "Got 'em." "Amazonian Indians?" "We had to get some malaria shots to go in, but yes." "The Amish." "Check." "Oh, come on," I said. "They don't even wear BUTTONS. How did you get them to buy a computer operating system?" "We told them there were actually 98 very small windows in the box," the Microsoft man admitted. "We sort of lied. Which means we are all going to Hell, every single employee of Microsoft." He was somber for a minute, but then perked right up. "But that's not the point!" he said. "The point is, EVERYONE has a copy. Except you." "So what?" I said. "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you expect me to do it, too?" "If we spent $300 million advertising it? Absolutely." "No." "Jeez, back to that again," the Microsoft man said. "Hey. I'll tell you what. I'll GIVE you a copy. For free. Just take it and install it on your computer." He waved the box in front of me. "No," I said again. "No offense, pal. But I don't need it. And frankly, your whole advertising blitz has sort of offended me. I mean, it's a computer operating system! Great. Fine. Well. Whatever. But you guys are advertising it like it creates world peace or something." "It did." "Pardon?" "World peace. It was part of the original design. Really. One button access. Click on it, poof, end to strife and hunger. Simple." "So what happened?" "Well, you know," he said. "It took up a lot of space on the hard drive. We had to decide between it or the Microsoft Network. Anyway, we couldn't figure out how to make a profit off of world peace." "Go away," I said. "I can't," he said. "I'll be killed if I fail." "You have got to be kidding," I said. "Look," the Microsoft man said, "We sold this to the AMISH. The Amish! Right now, they're opening the boxes and figuring out they've been had. We'll be pitchforked if we ever step into Western Pennsyvania again. But we did it. So to have YOU holding out, well, it's embarassing. It's embarassing to the company. It's embarassing to the product. It's embarassing to BILL." "Bill Gates does not care about me," I said. "He's watching right now," the Microsoft man said. "Borrowed one of those military spy satellites just for the purpose. It's also got one of those high-powered lasers. You close that door on me, zap, I'm a pile of grey ash." "He wouldn't do that," I said, "He might hit that copy of Windows 98 by accident." "Oh, Bill's gotten pretty good with that laser," the Microsoft man said, nervously. "Okay. I wasn't supposed to do this, but you leave me no choice. If you take this copy of Windows 98, we will reward you handsomely. In fact, we'll give you your own Caribbean island! How does Montserrat sound?" "Terrible. There's an active volcano there." "It's only a small one," the Microsoft man said. "Look," I said, "even if you DID convince me to take that copy of Windows 98, what would you do then? You'd have totally saturated the market. That would be it. No new worlds to conquer. What would you do then?" The Microsoft man held up another box and gave it to me. "Windows 98....For Pets'?!?!?" "There's a LOT of domestic animals out there," he said. I shut the door quickly. There was a surprised yelp, the sound of a laser, and then nothing. STERKKKKKKKKK verhaal, echt humor! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] HELP!! :-) (Just a tip here)
by wchang＠teaser.fr 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

>>Now, what I did was type "SAX" >>The configurator program came on and by mistake I chose the wrong monitor. >>So I say save changes, and it tells me that it is attempting to start the X >>system. >>My monitor goes crazy. Because of the wrong settings that I chose. >>I hard boot the computer. I presume that U dont have the manual and using a FTP version of SuSE? There is a way to turn back from "Testing Ur Monitor" step, and U dont need to reboot by force Ur computer : Just type [ctrl]+[alt]+[Back Space] in case Ur monitor becoms dizzy!! ... Salutations ... =) ... ... Donald ... (wchang(a)teaser.fr) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] NeoMagic Chipset and X Server problems
by mathowel＠NMSU.Edu 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Allright Lenz, this is what I got</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>bachus:/root # file /var/X11R6/bin/X</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>/var/X11R6/bin/X: broken symbolic link to /usr/X11R6/bin/XBF_Neomagic</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>bacchus:/root # </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>When I go to /var/X11R6/bin and type X I get X to start in 320X480 with no mouse and no desktop, just the grainy intro screen background</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>When I run XBF_Neomagic I get my desired 800X600 resolution but again, no desktop or mouse. When I Ctrl+Alt+Bskp to force quit the last X command listed is</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>/dev/mouse unable to get status of mouse fd (Not a typewriter)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>any ideas??</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>matt howell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>mathowel(a)nmsu.edu</FONT></DIV>

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[SuSE Linux] Problems with an HP ethernet card
by A.Crowe＠OPENMAIL1.TSEA-E.sukepabe.simis.com 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

Folks, I recently got a HP network kit that was going cheap, comprising 3 J2973A ethernet cards (with TP connections), and an 8 port hub. I've verified that the cards work OK in Win98 and NT, but can't get them operating at all in Linux (2.0.36 kernel). I've currently got them compiled in as PCI NE2000 cards, since there doesn't appear to be an option for them when doing a make config. All I seem to get during boot is the SIOCS..... messages indicating that it can't find the adapter. According to SuSE, these cards have been supported since 2.0.33. Any ideas, or have I missed something obvious here? Alan. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux as Internet gateway
by kingr＠icon.co.za 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

Would there be any complications if, say, I am on a company LAN, and wish to enable certain PC's to access the Internet via my Gateway - ( and others not) - BUT at the same time allow them to retain access to the company LAN and its nameserver via TCP/IP and via another default gateway??? Is this possible? How might it be done?? (This is something I really need to do....) -----Original Message----- From: George Toft <toftd001(a)hawaii.rr.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: 08 December 1998 10:00 Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Linux as Internet gateway > >Lenz Grimmer wrote: >> >> Hi, >>What you will >> need is IP masquerading. The relevant variables can be found in >> /etc/rc.config (they begin with MSQ_). Make sure that they are set up >> correctly. The manual should give you further instructions. >> >> > What are the settings on the Win95 PC? >> >> Just use the Linux Server as your default gateway in your TCP/IP >> configuration and make sure, that your Provider's Nameserver is set up >> correctly in the DNS setup. > >On the several Win95's I've setup like this, I had to explicitly >define the Win95's IP address with a static IP. Otherwise I get >the DHCP error message. > >George >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the >archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] susefax: FaxNo in CL argument?
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

Hi Folks, I would like to be able to start up susefax from a command line, with the destination Fax Number as an argument in the command line (but doing the rest manually in the usual way). In the version I have (which came with SuSE-5.1) I cannot make out from the documentation how to pass any arguments at all to susefax. Nevertheless the "/usr/X11R6/bin/susefax" startup script seems to have provision for passing arguments to the Java binary; only there is no explanation of how these should be formatted. (The reason for the request is that I want to start susefax from within another program which can retrieve a Fax No from its own database file; for this purpose I do not want to have to use susefax's own PhoneBook). Any help appreciated! Best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 09-Dec-98 Time: 09:43:48 -------------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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[SuSE Linux] Please. Information for a ThinkPad600, 1024*768.
by MVCT＠iname.com 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

¡Hello! I have recently got an IBMThinkPad 600 with a screen with a resolution of 1024 * 768, with a NeoMagic MagicGraf128XD. When I got Suse linux 5.2 I did not have yet the machine an now seems to late to ask for any support. I have found that entering floppy=thinkpad makes things worser. I have not yet been able to find an easy way to boot linux (I do it starting setup). I have been reading the computerŽs manual and other information got from the web and have not yet been able to gess what to set for the X86 configuration with Yast. I don't need here a full explanation of what to do (unless it where a very short and simple answer), but where could I find information (about Suse linux on a ThinkPad600 and of the ThinkPad600's screen(1024*768 resolution)'s properties). Sincerely yours, Mariano 7-dic-1998 MVCT(a)iname.com Santander - España Unión Europea - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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No Subject
by oulo＠altern.org 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

subscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] starting KDE
by xsusex＠hotmail.com 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

How abt going to your HOME directory and edit the .xinitrc file. Scroll down till the end section and change the fvwm2 entry to startkde. It shld work. >From: shermanandkerns(a)earthlink.net >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: [SuSE Linux] starting KDE >Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:28:23 GMT >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >I have done the suggested change to startx, exported WINDOWMANAGER and >generally tried everything I could think of but I still have to start >fvwm2 to get KDE up. (S.u.S.E. 5.3) Literally everything else works >great, but this is making me nuts! What stupid thing have I managed >to overlook this time? >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the >archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE installation compared to redhat
by kingr＠icon.co.za 09 Dec '98

09 Dec '98

I wonder if their aren't certain hardware combinations or bios' that give problems? I've had instances where Redhat was so easy to install it was laughable - in other cases it was so difficult I had to remove the HD, partition, format and do the install on a different machine..... My one and only (so far) install od SuSE 5.3 went very well indeed - but what is more significant to me is that the presence of YaST makes it possible for me, as a newbie, to do far more sophisticated and useful things with linux than I ever managed to do with Redhat. -----Original Message----- From: Kaare Rasmussen <kar(a)webline.dk> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: 09 December 1998 09:51 Subject: [SuSE Linux] SuSE installation compared to redhat > >According to this test: ><A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,375002,00.html"><A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,375002,00.html</A">http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,375002,00.html</A</A>> it is >harder to install SuSE 5.3 than RedHat 5.2 This surprises me. > >Here's the quote: > >In tests of Office Suite 99 on a 200MHz Pentium-based desktop PC, PC >Week Labs found installation of the operating system to be considerably >harder than installation of Red Hat Linux 5.2 (see review). Hardware >auto-detection was practically nonexistent, forcing us to configure >hardware components individually. > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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