June 2009 - openSUSE Marketing - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-marketing] [Weekly News] Dashboard
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 27 Jun '09

27 Jun '09

Hello Mates, i'm pleased to announce that we have created an Weekly News Dashboard. If you find an interesting Article or Post, you can leave us a Note with the URL in the Dashboard. The Dashboard-URL is: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Dashboard Try it out -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Ambassador openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com

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[opensuse-marketing] M3 Approaches
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

Hi all, M3 is approaching rapidly. Recent screenshots from Factory would be greatly appreciated! http://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots/11.2_Milestones Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] Final proposal and Summary of two controversial posts
by Abhradip mukherjee 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

Hallo all, It's time for me to put up a summary of my two controversial series of posts and give some final proposals to openSUSE community. 1) Calling Ambassadors: DVD requests (Started by Zonker) [1] I dont think any one would find any offence with my first post [2]. It was indeed a good proposal as far as I understand. Now comes my second post [3] Problem starts [4]. I now agree with this and I believe I should not have made the hurry. I just thought creation of such page would help me to express my logic in a more clear way. My problem was with [5]. And My next post[6] clarifies that. Jigish supported my view. The matter was clean until then Suddenly S. Kemter replied with some unnecessary harsh approach. (The post has been deleted from archive) I replied with [7] and Zonker replied next [8] The wiki page was cleaned up by me and now it was for people who want to help people nearby as offline mirror, to list themselves along with their contact details. As I thought it would be better if I make this page more visible by putting it on [9] (If you call it my another hurried decision, I will agree that it was my another mistake to not to decide after discussion with community. At that time I thought this will benefit the openSUSE community, then why not do it right now. A mistake I know.) Now what S. Kemter did next was both right and severely wrong. He removed the link from front page (Which was right). But he did not stop there and proceeded to mark the Free Media Persons page as "Nonsense"[10] (This was wrong and I was already irritated with his previous mail). The page was no more unclear and it clearly said that it was for people who want to share DVD medias [FMP page]. It was all the way wrong. As Zonker asked not to fight in public, I thought it was best to let Zonker know this through private mail and I did it that way. I never uttered a single word about this on the list until Eric pointed out the fact [11] and S.Kemter proudly announced that he did it on the list and pointed Eric to something totally different from the page's goal (the page was about voluntary sharing and he pointed to the page on how to get a DVD from openSUSE)[12]. I had to answer [13] and I am sorry for my use of words. At the same time I started a thread on GNU/Linux and Free Software Philosophy. Some people started confusing the two and attacked me on this thread too [14]. Things got messed up after that. == Proposal == The idea was good and many people liked it. So I again cleaned it up more and now I dont think anyone should have any problem against it [FMP page] any more. If that is so, it would be better if the "To be deleted" mark is removed and a link to this can be provided on main page. I leave it to the community now. 2) GNU/Linux : Started by me [15] Against (7) : Marquis, Sascha, Chuck Payne, S.Kemter, Gabriel Stein, Rajko M., Kevin For (6) : ADM, Alex239, Jean Christophe Baptiste, Martin (front page), Jigish (Front Page) Rajko M. (Personal Choice) Unproductive/No universally accepted solution (5) : Manchette, Zonker, Alex239, Bryen, Kevin So it shows there are followers of GNU/Linux naming convention in community. Should not they be heard? Even if we discard people who are in more than 1 group, the list becomes Against : 5 For : 4 Unproductive/No universally accepted solution : 3 The ratio difference is closer. == Proposal == Just change the main protected pages in the wiki to GNU/Linux to show openSUSE's official support to Free Sotware Movement. The usage in rest of the pages will be based on personal choice. Looking for reply from Zonker and Brien on this issue. --- ADM [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00088.html [2] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00096.html [3] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00097.html [4] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00098.html [5] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00099.html [6] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00100.html [7] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00104.html [8] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00105.html [9] http://en.opensuse.org/How_to_Participate#Spread_it [10] http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons&action=h… [FMP page] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons [11] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00150.html [12] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00198.html [13] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00214.html [14] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00215.html [15] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2009-06/msg00108.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] [Linux Magazine] openSUSE, Now with More Open
by Raul Libório 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

"Novell has announced plans to make openSUSE more community driven by opening up their Online Build System which controls Factory to contributors outside their staffing ranks. What does it mean for the project and community at large? " http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7394/1.html -- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom Linux user#4444581 "The bug is on the table." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] Ambassador Userpage
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

Hello Mates, ATM we have 11 Ambassadors without an Userpage. What happens with this Ambassadors? -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Ambassador (ZoneCoordinator Europe, Middle East and Africa) openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service openSUSE Features Screening Team Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Talks Templates
by Marcus Uddenhed 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

Hi. My name is Marcus and i signed up for the ambassador program and are excited to contribute to the community in the way i can. I have followed this thread throughout the day and find it interesting to have something to give people when talking to them, like a business card. I really liked the idea from Raul Libório and have tested a little myself using his picture as a base. I'm attaching here for you to see, it might give ideas for the final layout, i hope. It would be nice with the green theming on the business card. The picture attached is in png format but i got it in svg to, The front should provide as much info as possible regarding ways of contacting the ambassador. /Marcus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier" <jzb(a)zonker.net> To: "RageCryX" <ragecryx(a)yahoo.gr> Cc: opensuse-marketing(a)opensuse.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:06:32 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] Talks Templates 2009/6/24 RageCryX <ragecryx(a)yahoo.gr>: >>But, of course each ambassador is expected to get the mandatory Novell >>tattoo. That won't be a problem, will it? ;-) > No offence but i think... > > This is a very nice way to make people not use and contribute to openSUSE. > Many aspects of it must be liberated from the company it supports it. So in fact this phrase doesnt sound funny, its the bitter truth. In my opinion if openSUSE wants to spread more it must look more liberal on users and by being tied on a company like this has the opposite effect. So i think we better look after making non-novell-branded promotional material (including the presentation templates this thread is about). I do hope it was understood I was kidding. (hence the smiley) As I mentioned before - I would like to see a set of templates for openSUSE ambassadors that does not have a Novell logo, and neither I or Novell has a problem with openSUSE ambassadors using presentations without a Novell logo. (It'd be *nice but not required if there was some mention of Novell's role as a sponsor of the project -- but that's up to the ambassador and whether they choose or want to give Novell a mention.) A lot has been done over the past few years to make the openSUSE project more independent and I expect that will continue. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Talks Templates
by RageCryX 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

--- Στις Τετ., 24/06/09, ο/η Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> έγραψε: >On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Eric Yeoh<msiantuxlover(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I agree to have a separate template. I am a government employee who do >> volunteer my time to do talks on OpenSUSE to local community colleges. >> While I do that on my spare time, the Novell logo might prove to be a >> potential conflict of interest. > >But, of course each ambassador is expected to get the mandatory Novell >tattoo. That won't be a problem, will it? ;-) > >Best, > >Zonker >-- No offence but i think... This is a very nice way to make people not use and contribute to openSUSE. Many aspects of it must be liberated from the company it supports it. So in fact this phrase doesnt sound funny, its the bitter truth. In my opinion if openSUSE wants to spread more it must look more liberal on users and by being tied on a company like this has the opposite effect. So i think we better look after making non-novell-branded promotional material (including the presentation templates this thread is about). Thanks for your time, George <RageCryX> Koutsikos ___________________________________________________________ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] 11.2 DVD Cover Mock-up
by RageCryX 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

Ive been playing with Inkscape recently to create a DVD paper-sleeve mock-up for the upcoming 11.2 I dont know how much i succeeded and how professional it looks, but i would like your feedback :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcximg/3656267491/sizes/o/ And the SVG: http://ragecryx.googlepages.com/openSUSE_11.2_DVDWrap_v2.svg Uses the FifthLeg font. PS. I know that to alternate the color of the gecko is not acceptable, but its there for cosmetic reasons and the official logo is included. Do i have to contact someone for this to be legal ? Thanks for your time, George <RageCryX> Koutsikos ___________________________________________________________ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] GNU/Linux - [THREAD OPEN]
by Abhradip mukherjee 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

If users feel that they are going to post, no one should take away their freedom from doing that. The thread is open and everyone should be encouraged to post if they feel the need. ---- ADM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Calling Ambassadors: DVD requests
by Eric Yeoh 25 Jun '09

25 Jun '09

How should I proceed? I have already added my name to the list however the page seems to be destined to be deleted. Eric On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlover(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > How should I proceed? I have already added my name to the list however the page seems to be destined to be deleted. > > Eric > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> wrote: >> >> On 06/17/2009 04:10 AM, Jigish Gohil wrote: >>> >>> It is always good if community takes an initiative instead of waiting >>> for the project to do something. I am sure Zonker will not mind >>> anything that is for the benefit of the community. >> >> Initiative is excellent, as long as we're moving forward as a group and not at cross purposes. >> >> I don't need to personally approve every initiative, and -- in fact -- would prefer not to. :-) But, I do hope we'll have consensus among the people doing the ambassador work and make sure that we have some agreement. >> >> I'm really happy to see so much enthusiasm right off the bat. We have some work to do to get our systems in place and get good at coordinating with one another, but I'm sure that will happen. >> >> Thanks all! >> >> Best, >> >> Zonker >> -- >> Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier >> openSUSE Community Manager >> http://zonker.opensuse.org/ >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org >> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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