Meeting minutes can be also found here
Proposed meeting time Feb January 12th 18:00
Language: Preferred Czech as this is a Czech user portal writing
exclusively in Czech language.
Dan Čermák, Luboš Kocman, Mark Stopka, Vojta Zeisek
lkocman: We should relation in between *.opensuse.org and
The end goal could be that news.opensususe.org are using weblate for
translations to other languages and the czech-translation simply
available over the *.cz domain. Translated articles would be currently
published on suseportal.cz as a short to medium term goal.
Translation of news.o.o is not very handy. Better'd be if news.o.o
would be some normal CMS (WP, Drupal, ...) with multilingual support...
Vojta: Handling translations directly in news.o-o sounds like better
lkocman: I'd like to avoid duplication of information on Czech wiki
This is more general problem --- function of wiki (vs. doc.o.o etc.)
CMS vs gitops topic. We've agreed that gitops seems to be the future of
opensuse.cz redirects directly to opensuse.org, users can click on the
list-button which offers Czech language.
So there is translation done via weblate, but it's not in use in case
you get to portal via opensuse.cz.
* openSUSE.cz doesn't have to be necessarily redirect but rather a
Dan: that's basically get.opensuse.org
Vojtech: opensuse.cz sounds like a better place to publish any sort of
Czech content. Marek generally prefers mixed content about
SUSE/openSUSE to ensure content "flow" and possible revenue.
Who's the audience in this case? E.g. BFU will not read a sophisticated
article about Czech deployment that might be otherwise very appreciated
by storage SMEs.
The only place which currently has some news in Czech language is:
Lubos: It might make sense to reach out to people who publish articles
on linkedin and see if they'd be interested in publishing articles
there and collecting articles from our distributors (DNS) and sponsors.
Either SUSE CZ or DNS could be the owner. We suppose that SUSE might
not be interested in owning the domain/portal.
Reach out to Doug regarding preference to use suseportal.cz to Czech
content on *.opensuse.org (respective .cz). But then we lose the
benefit of SUSE portal, promotes both SUSE and openSUSE content. (Doug
is fine with this)
pointer of opensuse.cz -> Czech content of opensuse.org has to be fixed
Send copy of this report in the morning to users-cz(a)lists.opensuse.org
Reach out to people behind
possible ownership of portal and publishing mixture of content from
SUSE/openSUSE/sponsors/distributors. Next step would be to ask the DNS
distributor for their interest in the domain and possibly other
That discussion should ideally involve partner manager for Czechia.
- provide feedback to Mark -> Mark will follow-up with DNS
opensuse.cz makes sense also for BFU :-)
I have been seeing a disturbing trend in the openSUSE Twitter and
Mastodon accounts, where we are sending messages tearing down the
As an openSUSE contributor who spends *a lot* of time trying to use
and promote openSUSE sensibly, I was disheartened by the lack of
professionalism and support to our fellow project trying to develop a
contributor-oriented community like we have for openSUSE Leap.
The worst part about it is that the attacks are a "stone and glass
house" kind of affair. openSUSE Leap has roughly the same lifespan as
CentOS Stream, and contributions to CentOS Stream effectively work the
same way as contributions to openSUSE Leap does.
If people start teasing apart what we actually *offer* compared to
CentOS Stream, they will be disappointed to find that we're not that
much different from them. And the truth is, I couldn't be happier! If
anything, we should be supporting that project, and drawing parallels
to openSUSE Leap as a *model* of how CentOS Stream can be done. We've
successfully integrated the enterprise and the community together in a
stable, reliable, rock-solid platform.
When openSUSE made the change to openSUSE Leap, nobody from Red Hat or
Fedora said bad things about us. In fact, they've been generally
supportive of our efforts. I have personally had conversations with a
number of folks at Red Hat talking about the model of excellence that
is openSUSE Leap. And now, Red Hat is taking a "Leap" of faith with
CentOS and RHEL, and we're tearing them down for trying to be more
open? That's utterly hypocritical and I'm disgusted.
As a member of the openSUSE community, I'm disappointed and saddened
by how we're not trying to support each other. Our friends at Red Hat
and Fedora have supported us, this is our turn to support them. That
doesn't mean we can't take the opportunity to talk about openSUSE
Leap. There is plenty to love about openSUSE Leap for folks
everywhere. But tearing down CentOS to promote openSUSE Leap is not
the right way.
Neal Gompa (ID: Pharaoh_Atem)