Hi all, The former mentioned about CentOS and suggesting Leaf lead to constructive discussions, so these are OK and healthy as it leads to insights on both sides. But yes, a retweet with a negative tone can only lead to negativity. Any official account should uphold social values and respect. Especially online it shouldn't be about bashing or gaining at the cost of others. We are working in the same community for the same gains; making OSS successful. Calling out for dialog sure, but this isn't that. Regards, Gerard Note: Although I work for Red Hat, these views are my own. I have respect for SUSE and the openSUSE community. Especially as I assist them here in Asia/China to develop and grow. Had many good conversations with jzb before he moved. ________________________________ From: Gerald Pfeifer Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020, 09:50 To: Neal Gompa Cc: marketing@lists.opensuse.org; Douglas DeMaio; ddemaio@suse.de; board@opensuse.org; Brian Proffitt; Rich Bowen; Gerard Braad Subject: Re: What is going on with openSUSE Twitter and Mastodon?! [ Removing one of Doug's three addresses, and Stasiek is on board@ ] Hi Neal, On Fri 2020-12-18, Neal Gompa wrote:

And now, Red Hat is taking a "Leap" of faith with CentOS and RHEL, and we're tearing them down for trying to be more open?

I'm not sure I completely agree with your description of the changes around CentOS, but that's not the point here. I personally oppose¹ those Tweets coming from the @openSUSE account and suggest we (i.e., someone with access to the account, unlike me) take them down. And refrain from going into that direction in the future. Gerald ¹ anti-support isn't an English verb, I guess?

Thanks for the followup Doug. On 1/5/21 5:30 AM, Douglas DeMaio wrote:

Hi all,

I hope you all had some happy holidays with friends and family. As unfortunate as what is describe in this thread is, it brings up some valid points about communities socially and publicly interacting with each other during trying times such like the situation surrounding CentOS or any future situation that could arise. The topic appears to has been discussed and is being addressed through various channels from what I have seen so far. v/r Doug

------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Gerard Braad *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:22 AM *To:* Gerald Pfeifer ; Neal Gompa *Cc:* marketing@lists.opensuse.org ; Douglas DeMaio ; ddemaio@suse.de ; board@opensuse.org ; Brian Proffitt ; Rich Bowen *Subject:* Re: What is going on with openSUSE Twitter and Mastodon?! Hi all,

The former mentioned about CentOS and suggesting Leaf lead to constructive discussions, so these are OK and healthy as it leads to insights on both sides.

But yes, a retweet with a negative tone can only lead to negativity. Any official account should uphold social values and respect. Especially online it shouldn't be about bashing or gaining at the cost of others. We are working in the same community for the same gains; making OSS successful. Calling out for dialog sure, but this isn't that.

Regards,

Gerard

Note: Although I work for Red Hat, these views are my own. I have respect for SUSE and the openSUSE community. Especially as I assist them here in Asia/China to develop and grow. Had many good conversations with jzb before he moved.

------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Gerald Pfeifer *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2020, 09:50 *To:* Neal Gompa *Cc:* marketing@lists.opensuse.org; Douglas DeMaio; ddemaio@suse.de; board@opensuse.org; Brian Proffitt; Rich Bowen; Gerard Braad *Subject:* Re: What is going on with openSUSE Twitter and Mastodon?!

[ Removing one of Doug's three addresses, and Stasiek is on board@ ]

Hi Neal,

On Fri 2020-12-18, Neal Gompa wrote:

...

And now, Red Hat is taking a "Leap" of faith with CentOS and RHEL, and we're tearing them down for trying to be more open?

I'm not sure I completely agree with your description of the changes around CentOS, but that's not the point here.

I personally oppose¹ those Tweets coming from the @openSUSE account and suggest we (i.e., someone with access to the account, unlike me) take them down. And refrain from going into that direction in the future.

Gerald

¹ anti-support isn't an English verb, I guess?