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Tumbleweed - Old Friend (man bashbuiltins) Not There ??
by David C. Rankin 24 Aug '24

24 Aug '24

Devs, Since I can remember, suse/opensuse has provided the convenience of collecting the bash builtin functions in a separate man page: $ man bashbuiltins On Tumbleweed, that results in: $ man bashbuiltins No manual entry for bashbuiltins Possibly, man page is not installed, try online at: https://manpages.opensuse.org/bashbuiltins It was there up though Leap 15.4. Anybody know what happened to it? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Fwd: Re: [openSUSE/distribution-logos] Logo proposal (Issue #11)
by Lukáš Krejza 23 Aug '24

23 Aug '24

Dear list, Dear Jay, @Jay at first, I would like to congratulate to Jay Michalska as a new Master Leader of openSUSE. @others Secondly, I would like to express my love and gratitude to many people from the openSUSE community I had the honor to meet, I won't list names here, but I am sure many of you know :) . openSUSE was basically part of most of my life and the community and people from it has inspired me in numerous ways in my life, not only career / libre software part of it. But sadly, It seems it has gone to the point, where negatives (that have nothing to do with people mentioned in previous paragraph) are just bigger than the positives. For me, this is the renowned final straw. I had come to conclusion, that logical way forward in my life is to switch main distribution after 20 years and find alternative for OBS, which will be hard, but sometimes things are not easy :) . So this is my farewell and my sincerest thanks <3 I am unsubscribing from the lists after sending this e-mail, so do not expect me to comment more on this. I wish openSUSE only the brightest future. I am sure we will meet again some time :) . Love, Gfs ---------- Přeposlaná zpráva ---------- Předmět: Re: [openSUSE/distribution-logos] Logo proposal (Issue #11) Datum: pátek 23. srpna 2024, 10:25:41, SELČ Od: Jay Michalska <notifications(a)github.com> Komu: openSUSE/distribution-logos <distribution-logos(a)noreply.github.com> Kopie: Lukáš Krejza <gryffus(a)hkfree.org>, Author <author(a)noreply.github.com> I'm the maintainer of this repository -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/openSUSE/distribution-logos/issues/ 11#issuecomment-2306568614 You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Message ID: <openSUSE/distribution-logos/issues/11/2306568614(a)github.com> -----------------------------------------

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Questionable problems with Tumbleweed snapshot 20240731 (Mostly-Solved):
by -pj 23 Aug '24

23 Aug '24

Hi, I am running openSUSE Tumbleweed on a machine with Nvidia G05 drivers. Machine was unable to boot to graphical target..... I just learned that Nvidia G05 driver is not supported with the 6.10.2-1 kernel as of yet. So adjusted Grub2, to booting with 6.9.9-1 and do now reach graphical target. A noticeable problem now is *not* having a rollback option available in the boot menu anymore. During the previous 'zypper dup' there was an error with a grub filename of sorts, that was unable to (r, retry) successfully. I aborted, powercycled then ran "zypper dup" again... I powercycled again and then passed 'zypper -vvv dup' with "Nothing to do" reported. When passing '# snapper list' the output shows many snapshots. Can you tell me how to recover the snapshot entry option for boot menu? I have attempted regenerating initrd > 'dracut --regenerate-all --force' *and* update grub > 'grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg' , powercycled and still no rollback option exists any longer. Also have attempted to pass > # zypper in --force grub2 grub2-branding-openSUSE grub2-i386-pc grub2-i386-pc-extras grub2-snapper-plugin grub2-systemd-sleep-plugin ruby3.3-rubygem-cfa_grub2 After powercycle, It appears the machine is now displaying 'boot from read-only snapshot' option again. If I *did not* pass 'zypper se -i grub*' , I would not have seen the possible culprit being package 'grub2-snapper-plugin'. Why did this happen? Those packages are now marked with 'i+', user installed *not* 'i' installer, as shown before. Is this an issue? Now the largest question I am left with about this is. Are there other packages installed on the machine that need to be installed again with force possibly? I recently passed '# zypper install --force sane-airscan' to correct 'airscan-discover' for some reason. I have passed 'zypper ve' > Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. How can I track down these partially, non-functional incorrectly installed packages? -Greatest Hopes🫥

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Need help with a laptop that will only run Plasma/Wayland
by Marc Chamberlin 23 Aug '24

23 Aug '24

I have an ASUS laptop that normally is running in a remote location. The trouble is, is that it will only start up the Plasma/Wayland desktop and I need it to bring up the Plasma/X11 desktop instead. (I use x11vnc for remote desktop access purposes, and x11vnc won't talk with Wayland AFAIK, and yes I must run both the x11vnc server as well as clients on the laptop) The laptop is running under OpenSuSE 15.5 x64 with the KDE desktop manager. When I try to use the Plasma/X11 desktop, after a reboot I reach the KDE login screen OK. If I choose to log in with the Plasma/X11 desktop, after entering my login name and password, the screen just goes blank for a moment, then cycles back and re-brings up the login/password screen again. Apparently the Plasma/X11 version of the desktop is not accepting my login credentials for some reason. However, if I choose to brings up the Plasma/Wayland desktop, my login credentials work just fine and the desktop comes up OK. I have no idea how to go about debugging and solving this problem, log files seem unhelpful with nothing much amiss, and DuckDuckGo internet searching ain't bringing no joy either. I would rather not apply a single case workaround either, I like to keep all my systems I support, as consistent as possible. Anyone up for helping me to get this beast of a laptop to behave itself. As always, my thanks and appreciation are offered in advance. Marc... --

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Re: [oS-en] sed question
by Serafino Conflitti 21 Aug '24

21 Aug '24

On 2023-04-28 09:33, Robert Webb via openSUSE Users wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:03:05 +0200 (CEST), "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> wrote: >> I have a script (from somebody else) to download the image of the day from >> the NASA. I have modified the script quite a bit to download a range of >> days, even years of them. >> One key function is failing on today's picture. This is the relevant >> section of the script: >> +++...................... >> function get_page { >> echo "Downloading page to find image" >> #wget http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ --quiet -O /tmp/apod.html >> wget https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap${SHORT_TODAY}.html --quiet -O /tmp/apod.html >> grep -m 1 jpg /tmp/apod.html | sed -e 's/<//' -e 's/>//' -e 's/.*=//' -e 's/"//g' -e 's/^/http:\/\/apod.nasa.gov\/apod\//' > /tmp/pic_url >> } >> get_page >> # Got the link to the image >> PICURL=`/bin/cat /tmp/pic_url` >> if [ -z $PICURL ]; then >> echo "Not found picture.jpg for $TODAY. Trying .png" >> try_png >> PICURL=`/bin/cat /tmp/pic_url` >> if [ -z $PICURL ]; then >> echo "Not found picture.png for $TODAY. html file saved" >> cp /tmp/apod.html $PICTURES_DIR/$TODAY.html >> return >> fi >> fi >> NAME=`basename $PICURL` >> PICTURE_NAME=${TODAY}_${NAME} >> ......................++- >> The script sets up variable SHORT_TODAY to 230427, so "get_page" downloads >> <https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap230426.html>. It is coughing up this error: > You mean "<https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap230427.html>". ap230426.html is > "the day before" you mention later below. No, I wrote on the 27 ;-) >> Do 20230427 >> Downloading page to find image >> /home/cer/bin/NASA Picture-Of-The-Day Wallpaper Script, mine, loop: line 98: [: too many arguments >> basename: extra operand ‘Tarantula</a>’ >> Try 'basename --help' for more information. >> The problem is here: >> cer@Isengard:~> grep -m 1 jpg /tmp/apod.html | sed -e 's/<//' -e 's/>//' -e 's/.*=//' -e 's/"//g' -e 's/^/http:\/\/apod.nasa.gov\/apod\//' >> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1602/Tarantula-HST-ESO-annotated1800.jpgAro… the Tarantula</a> >> cer@Isengard:~> >> The source html goes like this: >> <a href="image/1602/Tarantula-HST-ESO-annotated1800.jpg">Around the Tarantula</a> >> are other star forming regions with >> young star clusters, filaments, and blown-out >> <a href="ap080327.html">bubble-shaped</a> clouds. > As Brendan pointed out, one of the problems is that the grep command > gets the first line that contains "jpg". Right. > That isn't even the line with > the picture-of-the-day link, on this ap230427.html page, because the > A.P.O.D. is a PNG instead. It is from the description. The correct > link is from here: When the jpg is not found, I do a second call asking for png instead: you can see it in the susepaste. And some are a youtube video, those I do not really want (it is for a screensaver). > 2023 April 27 > <br> > <a href="image/2304/SuperBIT_tarantula.png"> > <IMG SRC="image/2304/SuperBIT_tarantula_1024.png" > alt="See Explanation. Clicking on the picture will download > the highest resolution version available." style="max-width:100%"></a> > You need to grab not just a link *to* an image, but one that *is* an > inline image also. The file suffix doesn't matter. So, the following > can replace the grep and sed line, and the PICURL code. > -------------------- > # Given an A.P.O.D. HTML page, this skips the lines down through the > # page title heading. Then it extracts the HREF contents of the first > # link that contains an IMG tag. > # Requires GNU sed for the 'I' flag (ignore regex case) which is used. > # Line-by-line description of ${HREF_EXTRACT_SCRIPT}: > # > # On each line, remove leading space. > # Skip lines through the A.P.O.D. heading. > # Skip blank lines. > # If IMG tag, goto :img > # Save this line to the Hold Space. > # Next input line. (and go to the beginning of the script) > # :img > # Get (the previous line) from the Hold Space. > # If not an 'A' tag with HREF, next input line. > # Extract the HREF contents. > # Print it. > # Quit after the first print. > HREF_EXTRACT_SCRIPT=' > s/^ *// > 1,/^<h1> *Astronomy Picture of the Day/Id > /^$/d > /^<img *src="/Ib img > x > b > :img > x > /^<a href="$[^<>"]\+$">.*$/I!b > s//\1/ > p > q > ' > [...] > wget -O /tmp/apod.html ... > PIC_HREF="$(sed -n -e "$HREF_EXTRACT_SCRIPT" /tmp/apod.html)" > if [ -z "$PIC_HREF" ] ;then > printf '%s' "Not found picture.xxx for $TODAY... " > cp -T /tmp/apod.html $PICTURES_DIR/$TODAY.html \ > && echo " html file saved" > return 1 > else > PICURL="http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/${PIC_HREF}" > # printf '%s\n' "$PICURL" > /tmp/pic_url > fi > NAME="$(basename "$PIC_HREF")" > [...] > -------------------- :-o Thanks. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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Re: What is required to migrate from /etc/hosts to DHCP
by Carlos E. R. 21 Aug '24

21 Aug '24

On 2024-08-20 19:12, J Leslie Turriff wrote: > On 2024-08-16 04:30:57 you wrote: >> On 2024-08-15 01:13, J Leslie Turriff via openSUSE Users wrote: >>> On 2024-08-10 02:11:51 Andrei Borzenkov wrote: >>> >>> >>> I haven't tried anything yet. I would like to keep the same IP >>> addresses as the NetGear router has configured, but the StarLink router >>> is a black box; no user configuration is possible. >> >> That is impossible. There must always be a configuration method, even if >> it is limited. It could be via a smartphone app. Or it could be via an >> external IP living at the ISP, say http://starlink.com/router (I just >> made it up). > > One would think that, right? But so far I haven't found a way. >> >> This second method is what my ISP does. But accessing that method >> provides a method to get the router password and disable the ISP page, >> and then access it locally at http://192.168.1.1 >> >> >> And then, you always have the option to use the DHCP service AND your >> own static IP definitions. You only have to use static addresses >> outside of the router DHCP range. > > And that would be acceptable IF I can see what the DHCP range is. Your router must be accessible in some way. At worst, in informative way only. > Anyway, the other possibility would be to more or less abandon my > static /etc/hosts table and let StarLink have its way. If I should take this > option, should I erase /etc/hosts, or will StarLink just ignore it? The router doesn't have access to that information. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)

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RFC 6724
by James Knott 20 Aug '24

20 Aug '24

I was reading about proposed changes to RFC 6724 which determines the priority for IP address selection. In the original RFC 6724, IPv4 addresses are given preference to IPv6 Unique Local Addresses (ULA). The proposed changes would reverse that. However, in testing with ping, I see ULA is preferred, except for the computer being used for testing from. That is when a computer is pinging itself. Why the difference? Why is the proposed priority used when pinging a different device, but not the same device? Also, if I use the FQDN, instead of just the host name, then ULA is used. WTF??? I'm using the DNS resolver in pfSense. The host command returns both IPv4 and ULA addresses for both host name and FQDN Original - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6724 Proposed - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-rfc6724-update/ Running openSUSE 15.5 & KDE.

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What is required to migrate from /etc/hosts to DHCP
by J Leslie Turriff 20 Aug '24

20 Aug '24

Long ago (openSUSE 6.3?) when I had only one machine and an analog modem, I set up /etc/hosts to map my IP address; as time went on I added a router, a network printer, an OS-X machine, etc., but my network was small enough that I could manage the devices with /etc/hosts. Currently I have satellite IP routed through a NetGear WiFi router, in which I have assigned the static addresses in my /etc/hosts file, but I want to migrate to the StarLink system that I recently bought. Unfortunately, the StarLink system's built-in router is a Black Box :-( that only supports devices via DHCP. (It is already handling a WiFi laptop and several smart phones; the legacy devices on the NetGear router use an Ethernet network.) My question is, do I just have to use YaST LAN to switch my network setting from Static to DHCP, or are there other changes required? (Both routers use the same 192.168.x.x address range, so it seems to me that just moving the Ethernet cable from one router to the other without assigning a new address ought to work, but there is no way to talk to the StarLink router if there is an address collision with devices it has already assigned.) My /etc/hosts currently looks like this: | wd=~ | $ cat /etc/hosts | # | # hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address | # mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly | # used at boot time, when no name servers are running. | # On small systems, this file can be used instead of a | # "named" name server. | # Syntax: | # | # IPv4 Address Fully Qualified Hostname Short Hostnames | #------------- ------------------------ ------------------- | 127.0.0.1 localhost | # | 192.168.1.1 grey.sixys.site grey router <== NetGear | 192.168.1.2 pinto.sixys.site pinto desktop1 | 192.168.1.3 philips.sixys.site philips TV | 192.168.1.4 chestnut.sixys.site chestnut desktop2 | 192.168.1.5 black.sixys.site black windows | 192.168.1.6 charcoal.sixys.site charcoal dell | #92.168.1.7 unused | #92.168.1.8 unused | 192.168.1.9 palomino.sixys.site palomino server | 192.168.1.10 buckskin.sixys.site buckskin printer | #92.168.1.11 unused | 192.168.1.12 chrome.sixys.site chrome laptop1 | 192.168.1.13 pinto-foal.sixys.site pinto-foal UPS | 192.168.1.14 toreador.sixys.site toreador laptop2 | # | 192.168.100.1 blueroan.sixys.site blueroan downlink <== ViaSat | # | #============================================================ | # IPv6 Address Hostnames | #------------- --------------------------------------------- | ::1 localhost ipv6-localhost ipv6-loopback | | fe00::0 ipv6-localnet | | ff00::0 ipv6-mcastprefix | ff02::1 ipv6-allnodes | ff02::2 ipv6-allrouters | ff02::3 ipv6-allhosts | # | #============================================================ | # DNS Servers: | # 192.168.1.1 | 99.197.99.99 | 99.196.99.99 | #============================================================ | rc=0 | @01:34:39 leslie@pinto Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.6 - x86_64

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Correct folder, file placement and Environment Variable for disabling QML cache in Plasma 6?
by -pj 20 Aug '24

20 Aug '24

Hi, Tumbleweed Plasma 6 here. Wondering if you know of the correct location for holding QT Plasma 6 QML Environment Variables? There has been a suggestion of '~/.config/environment.d/envvars.conf`. The directory does not exist by default. '/etc/environment' directory does not exist by default either so this very well could be the case. Suggested to me is "QML_DISABLE_DISK_CACHE=1" though I do not see that on the documentation page. Interested in variable to disable QML disk cache (bottom of page). Documentation reference:> https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qmldiskcache.html QML_DISABLE_DISK_CACHE No '=1' is shown in examples. Quote from page, "The primary way of fine tuning the behavior regarding ahead of time compiled code and caching is via the environment variable QML_DISK_CACHE. This variable takes a comma-separated list of options, for example:" 🫥

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Re: Why are packman package names not consistent?
by Serafino Conflitti 20 Aug '24

20 Aug '24

On 8/28/23 22:01, John Kizer via openSUSE Users wrote: > The Packman home page (http://packman.links2linux.org/) contains direct mail-to links to their mailing list, and their Help page contains a link to mailing list archives. Thanks John, I forwarded the original along with a preface. Will report back if I get an answer on what the stable naming convention will be going forward. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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