openSUSE Users July 2018

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by Carlos E. R.

On 2018-07-08 23:36, tooth pik wrote: > hasn't bc always been a part of bash? you can sent your own precision > with that Not that I know, it is not listed in "man bashbuiltins" Welcome here, by the way :-) There is a problem with your email, though. You are using gmail, so the first thing you must know is that you will never receive a copy of your own email via the list server, because gmail thinks it is a duplicate and erases it (it has the local copy of the "sent" folder). Also, if people mail both to the list and to you directly, you will only receive the direct copy, as the one from the list arrives later to gmail, and google thinks it is a duplicate of the first one and erases the second. If you want to check if an email of yours arrived, you have to browse to the archive: <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2018-07/all.html> you can see your post is not there, so we come to the second issue, the important one. Your post was rejected by the list server because it contains html. In order to post on openSUSE mail lists (and many others) you have to tell gmail to use plain text only. In fact, you probably have received a post from the mail list saying that the post was rejected. I got your private copy sent to me, so I took the chance to tell you. More details here: <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette> have fun :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] Help with system architecture documentation, please

by don fisher

I have been searching trying to discover why so many of my 42.3 applications fail in leap 15. As a test I rebooted my system so things would be fresh, and then executed: pstree -p -n With Thunderbird, Firefox, Rhythmbox, fvwm2, a terminal an a few others, there were 438 different processes spawned. Just Firefox was responsible for 238 processes. Rhythmbox, one of my problem apps, had 10 processes. I would like to find documentation describing how one would write an application and all of the synchronization requirements linked by gdbus and the other protocols. I am currently rereading the systemd documentation which gives some of the desired information at startup. What I would like is a document that ended with a cookbook giving a full example of an application. For example a simple window with a push button in it. I am sure people do write code for opensuse, or else we wouldn't need such a software development environment. The only documentation I can find relates to setting up the environment and system management. Thanks, and it doesn't have to be free. I will buy a book if available. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] Re: [libreoffice-users] My Templates?

by James Knott

On 07/08/2018 03:14 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: > My templates are separated in My Templates. I can find only one of the templates I had created. Where did the others go? Why all this nonsense of making custom templates so hard to find??? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] System complains during start up: error - no symbol table - press any key to proceed

by stakanov

I have a Lenovo X201 with tpm. I have the system installed as follows: One hdd with a /dev/sda1 partition (unencrypted) and an LVM (with the /dev/ home, /dev/system, /dev/root, /dev/swap) as proposed by the partitioner at the time of fresh install of Leap 15. I tried however an update first with a 42.3 system and a /boot partition and the error I am describing here was the same in Leap 15. When starting up the system reaches correctly trusted grub2. You are asked to input the password. After having done the input, the system works for some time and then states: slot 0 opened (so this part works) Error: no symbol table and then you are brought - without any interaction required - to grub (were you have a second issue, of being asked always the password (no matter what). Since the fix for this will be in the future (bug filed for the previous version), this is not the issue. The password issue was present also in 42.3 (were no complain was there). So it is unrelated. You input the user (root) and the password of choice. Then the system starts up and stops right after loading the kernel with: error - no symbol table found - press any key to proceed. Then you press whatever key, e.g enter and all works fine up to full boot up. No other disturbances seem to be there. This happens only after the upgrade to Leap 15 / new install of Leap 15. Therefore it seems a grub2 issue? Can anybody give me some insight of the matter? Should I raise a bug? Thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________ Ihre E-Mail-Postf�cher sicher & zentral an einem Ort. Jetzt wechseln und alte E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! https://www.eclipso.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] logrotate is not running

by Carlos E. R.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 minas-tirith:~ # grep -i logrotate /var/log/messages <1.6> 2017-11-03 18:45:24 minas-tirith run-crons 29173 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2017-11-09 23:15:10 minas-tirith run-crons 26985 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2017-11-15 02:15:12 minas-tirith run-crons 30572 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2017-11-20 22:45:11 minas-tirith run-crons 6757 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2017-12-05 21:15:12 minas-tirith run-crons 30613 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2017-12-11 09:15:11 minas-tirith run-crons 2495 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2017-12-18 01:45:13 minas-tirith run-crons 5130 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2018-01-02 10:45:17 minas-tirith run-crons 10574 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2018-01-15 18:30:16 minas-tirith run-crons 19341 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2018-01-20 22:15:14 minas-tirith run-crons 17631 - - logrotate: OK <1.6> 2018-01-26 12:15:12 minas-tirith run-crons 3707 - - logrotate: OK minas-tirith:~ # As you can see, it did not run since January, when I updated the machine to Leap 42.3 It is supposed to be a systemd timer now, and it was disabled. I enabled it yesterday and waited a day. But it is not running, on two computers - notice the size of the messages log file: minas-tirith:~ # l -h /var/log/messages - -rw-r----- 1 root root 20M Jul 7 01:45 /var/log/messages minas-tirith:~ # Isengard:~ # grep -i logrotate /var/log/messages Isengard:~ # ls -lh /var/log/messages - -rw-r----- 1 root root 99M Jul 7 01:45 /var/log/messages Isengard:~ # It should rotate at 4 MB: /etc/logrotate.d/syslog: /var/log/warn /var/log/messages /var/log/localmessages /var/log/firewall /var/log/acpid /var/log/NetworkManager /var/log/mail /var/log/mail.info /var/log/mail.warn /var/log/mail.err { compress dateext maxage 365 rotate 99 missingok notifempty size +4096k create 640 root root sharedscripts postrotate /usr/bin/systemctl reload syslog.service > /dev/null endscript } The timer is enabled on one, but after a day it did not run: minas-tirith:~ # systemctl status logrotate.timer ● logrotate.timer - Daily rotation of log files Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/logrotate.timer; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:logrotate(8) man:logrotate.conf(5) minas-tirith:~ # systemctl status logrotate.service ● logrotate.service - Rotate log files Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/logrotate.service; static; vendor preset: disabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:logrotate(8) man:logrotate.conf(5) minas-tirith:~ # Isengard:~ # systemctl status logrotate.timer ● logrotate.timer - Daily rotation of log files Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/logrotate.timer; disabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:logrotate(8) man:logrotate.conf(5) Isengard:~ # systemctl status logrotate.service ● logrotate.service - Rotate log files Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/logrotate.service; static; vendor preset: disabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:logrotate(8) man:logrotate.conf(5) Isengard:~ # On this machine I did no change till now: Isengard:~ # systemctl enable logrotate.timer Created symlink from /etc/systemd/system/timers.target.wants/logrotate.timer to /usr/lib/systemd/system/logrotate.timer. Isengard:~ # What is missing? Should I also enable the service? start the timer and/or the service? I just told the timer to start, I'll hope it is that but I do not know. How much do I have to wait till the logs are rotated, till 00 hours tomorrow? I noticed the problem because yesterday this machine root partition was full with one log that had grown to 8 GB and not rotated :-( - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAltAAlgACgkQja8UbcUWM1yrewEAnH913rAjgb/dFcrE/6gBqnIr Q68J7PZ+gwvMHTEQhUgA/3Cw3T0+jEgHKqPB3bNI3azZOlnOROW+Zd8Q7dd09RE1 =1IyJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] Suse sold to EQT

by Larry Stotler

Saw on Slashdot that Microfocus has sold SUSE to EQT. Anyone else got any info and how this affects opensuse? Thanx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] Wolfgang - you building Tbirrd 52.9.0 for Update

by David C. Rankin

All, Wolfgang, Thunderbird 52.9.0 was released on the 3rd, and has fixes for GPG included. Is it in the work for the update repo, or is this a build your own type thing? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] why do I have both kde4init and kde5init running?

by Anton Aylward

I see > ps -ef | grep init anton 505 1 0 14:35 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Runnin e anton 506 505 0 14:35 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: klauncher [kdei e anton 508 1 0 14:35 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit] anton 2368 31300 0 18:37 pts/1 00:00:00 grep --color=auto init anton 31121 1 0 12:37 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session /home/anton/.xinitrc anton 31168 1 0 12:37 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib64/libexec/kf5/start_kdeinit --kded +kcminit_startup anton 31169 1 0 12:37 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit5: Running... anton 31173 31169 0 12:37 ? 00:00:01 kded5 [kdeinit5] anton 32194 31169 0 12:37 ? 00:00:01 file.so [kdeinit5] file local:/run/user/501/klauncherJ31170.1.slave-socket local:/run/user/501/dolphinn31296.4.slave-socket > tail ~/.xinitrc # pland & # # finally start the window manager # unset WINDOW_MANAGER STARTUP exec $WINDOWMANAGER ${1+"$@"} # call failsafe exit 0 > env | grep WIN WINDOWID=69206021 WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/bin/startkde WINDOWPATH=7 > rpm -qf /usr/bin/startkde plasma5-workspace-5.8.7-11.1.x86_64 THAT is _supposed_ to check for an already running KDE session. There is a function 'kcheckrunning' at /usr/bin/ So why do I get both 4 & 5? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] MSI GE63 7RD : No openSUSE Leap 15?

by Markus Egg

Finally after a long search my selection for new laptop is the MSI GE63 7RD. Several internet tests were quite positive and -most important- it is very silent. Also the Ubuntu community said that these MSI laptops are quite "standard" stuff, only few tweaks, Optimus seems to be one thing to tweak. But: after having bought this machine I have to realize that openSUSE Leap 15 does not seem to be ready for this laptop (although amazon.de lists this machine since July 3rd 2017). There is a bunch of error messages when booting it up from USB after setting Secure boot to off and fast boot also. The worst one seems to be "NMI watchdog : BUG soft lockup CPU4 stuck for 22s!" afterwards SuSE15 seems to be stuck and I have to turn off by switch. I also tried tumbleweed on a USB stick - same error. Actually I was able to install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with a tweak of bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi under Windows 10 because otherwise the grub boot manager is not shown. Everything else seems to work after doing that tweak with nVidia which is described in internet all over. Does this mean I have to say goodbye to SuSE on my Laptop? After approx 28 years using SuSE? :-/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

[opensuse] Mozilla shows Stylish the door. (with a boot)

by David C. Rankin

All, If you use the Stylish add-on for Firefox, see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1472948 It has been removed as an add-on due to collecting user information in violation of the mozilla policy (this was evidently the result of Stylish being sold to RobetHeaton.com, "The 'Stylish' extension was recently sold and the new company now logs all browser history. https://robertheaton.com/2018/07/02/stylish-browser-extension-steals-your-i… " It was quite a surprise to get a Firefox pop-up to disable an extension. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

2 years, 6 months

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