April 2012 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] Re: Problem? Solved? How to download i586/i686 packages needed for x86_64 system but not whole i586 distro?
by Linda Walsh 22 Apr '12

22 Apr '12

Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Linda Walsh <suse(a)tlinx.org> [04-20-12 16:48]: >> I was thinking about how to specify a list of packages to download and wanted >> to be able to specify just updating/downloading the packages needed for an >> x86_64 system, without the requirement of downloading the entire x586/x686 >> package set as well. >> >> Currently, I don't see a way to do this -- since the packages in the i[56]86 >> dirs needed for x86_64 seem to be mixed in with the i[58]86 distro -- > > Unless you have changed zypper configuration, it will do the sorting for > you, ie: do not specify architecture. > > zypper in --recommends samba-client > > will examine your system and only download/install those packages matching > your system's architecture and requirements (and package suggestions re: > --recommends). > > It will dl different packages for x86 and x86_64. > > Um... But I am trying to pre-download packages and then use that dir for a local install dir. zypper won't work if I don't populate the local install dir properly... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Learning Javascript, now what do I do?
by Roger Luedecke 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

I have been learning Javascript on codeacademy.com . Now I'm nearly done with the tract, and have no clue what to do with what I learned. Could also use advice on a good IDE. I was checking out Eclipse, but for some reason it hasn't been built for 12.1, and I hate running things that aren't packaged in an .rpm. Got any ideas on how I can get involved with FOSS using Javascript that is suitable to a new programmer? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to install Sun Java?
by Roger Luedecke 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

Since its not included anymore, and a very few things really need it... how can I install it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: How to install Sun Java?
by Joachim Schrod 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2012-04-21 08:36, Jim Henderson wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:32:55 -0700, Roger Luedecke wrote: >> >>> Since its not included anymore, and a very few things really need it... >>> how can I install it? >> >> Download it from java.com and run the installer. Apparently that's the >> only way Oracle permits it to be distributed now. > > There should be a howto for dumbs. Like links, what variables to change on > the user system and how exactly, files to edit if any, things to run > (updatealernatives perhaps?), etc. > > Things like how to have both java versions installed and run only certain > things with sun's java... If someone points me to a specific OS Wiki page, I can add information for 11.4. That would be the use case that one had Oracle Java from 11.4 installed, and want to upgrade to a new version for security reasons. With a very high probability it would also cover the use case of OpenJDK usage, but I haven't verified that. (I use Java 6, and OpenJDK causes me too much problems in that version.) I can also add information about using multiple Java versions. This is mostly about environment variables. I haven't done it on 12.1, so I can't tell anything about OpenJDK vs. Oracle Java. I don't know what changed there in terms of update-alternatives and I don't know the package names. Somebody else would need to add that information. Also, my howto would involve commands in a shell. Somebody else would have to supply the information what are equivalent actions in a graphical environment. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] SUSE Login never connecting to forum.
by Steven Hess 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

My attempts to connect from the SUSE login to the forum are never connecting today. When is the ongoing brokenness with the forums going to be resolved? Don't tell me to use NNTP. This is costing the distro users. It should be a priority. It's not being addressed properly. This is something the Board of Directors should be very concerned about. Steven -- ____________ Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE Login never connecting to forum.
by Steven Hess 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2012-04-21 02:11, Steven Hess wrote: > > [Private reply] > >> My attempts to connect from the SUSE login to the forum are never >> connecting today. >> When is the ongoing brokenness with the forums going to be resolved? >> Don't tell me to use NNTP. This is costing the distro users. It should >> be a priority. It's not being addressed properly. >> This is something the Board of Directors should be very concerned about. > > I think it would be more appropriate to post in the -project list, the > decision makers lurk there. > > - -- > Cheers / Saludos, > > Carlos E. R. > (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk+R/y8ACgkQIvFNjefEBxrIRgCdFFjdJxqHjkiPdFzAuIL0lLcC > 1hkAn31A+//aHbUqnRlZdmrO2LAu4X9n > =ZTLO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Too many lists. The is the openSUSE list. Someone should be paying attention to it. This just adds to the frustrations over this ongoing issues with the forums. WHERE do you go to report problems, The OFFICIAL place?. -- ____________ Steven L Hess ARS KC6KGE DM05gd22 Google Voice 661 769 6201 +SMS openSUSE Linux 12.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: update-alternatives configuration questions for Java
by Joachim Schrod 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

Marc Chamberlin wrote: > > The RPM installation files from Oracle install the Java files under > /usr/java and not under /usr/lib/jvm or /usr/lib64/jvm which is > where OpenSuSE12.1 seems to want them. My tip: Don't use Oracle's RPMs. Use their generic Linux installation, install in /opt, and add that /opt directory at the start of $PATH. Make sure that JAVA_HOME is not set globally. If your application really needs it, set it in a wrapper script or in Tomcat's setenv.sh. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] update-alternatives configuration questions for Java
by Marc Chamberlin 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

Boy am I struggling trying to understand how to use update-alternatives and wonder if some kind soul might give me a few pointers. And a heads up, I suspect this might take some thought on some kind guru's part... Basically I am trying to install the Oracle/Sun version of Java on my systems. (and yes I know that Novell/openSuSE and Oracle got into a snit over license agreements, and as a user of Java I am pretty mad about the decision to drop the installation support for it. So I am tasked with trying to install the Oracle version since the openJDK flat out does not work for either Eclipse or our Web Start applications.) OpenSuSE12.1 has apparently dropped the ball on Java in that a number of Java related environment variable, such as JAVA_HOME, JVM_ROOT etc no longer get initialized for a given Java installation. It appears that our old reliable friend "setJava" got booted, so apparently /etc/java/java.conf and whatever else setJava used, is now useless and I do not grok why these files are still around, it just makes things even more confusing. The job of setting these environment variables appears to have fallen to a script in /etc/profile.d/allJava.sh or allJava.csh. So now my job is (I think) to configure things with update-alternatives so that an installation of the Oracle/Sun Java will work properly. The RPM installation files from Oracle install the Java files under /usr/java and not under /usr/lib/jvm or /usr/lib64/jvm which is where OpenSuSE12.1 seems to want them. And to make things worse, some braindead fool at Oracle or Sun decided to supply us Linux users with a self extracting shell script for installing the Java EE SDK that requires you to have already installed the JDK for Java SE BEFORE you can run the Java EE installation script! And you can guess at what assumptions are made on where the SE version was installed. In other words, you gotta have a Sun Java JDK installed in order to install a Sun Java EE SDK! Go figure.... The script allJava.sh makes it's decisions by first determining which lib dir - /usr/lib or /usr/lib64 should be used. Once it has figured that out, it then searches the sub directory jvm for the existence of the link/dirs java and jre. If it finds these then it proceeds to setting the environment variables Java apps needs. I initially noted that neither the "java" nor the "jre" link/dirs existed in either of the lib jvm locations! I dunno why not, but that breaks that script so none of these Java environment variables are getting set. Anywise, I proceeded to try and set up the links as follows for the Oracle/Sun installation - sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/java/latest/bin/java" 40 sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --config java and selected my new version of java. Next, to get allJava.sh working I tried to do the following (for my x64 laptop, a 32 bit version would be somewhat similar if this worked..) sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --install "/usr/lib64/jvm/java" "java_sdk" "/usr/java/latest" 50 sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --install "/usr/lib64/jvm/jre" "java_jre" "/usr/java/latest/jre" 50 and BOOM! I got told the following error - update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/lib64/jvm/jre is already managed by java. I then queried the java alternatives - sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --query java Link: java Status: manual Best: /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/java Value: /usr/java/latest/bin/java Alternative: /usr/java/latest/bin/java Priority: 40 Slaves: Alternative: /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/java Priority: 17105 Slaves: java.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/java-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz jre /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk jre_exports /usr/lib64/jvm-exports/jre-1.6.0-openjdk keytool /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/keytool keytool.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/keytool-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz orbd /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/orbd orbd.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/orbd-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz policytool /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/policytool policytool.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/policytool-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz rmid /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/rmid rmid.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/rmid-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz rmiregistry /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/rmiregistry rmiregistry.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/rmiregistry-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz servertool /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/servertool servertool.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/servertool-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz tnameserv /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/tnameserv tnameserv.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/tnameserv-java-1.6.0-openjdk.1.gz and WOWZA this slave stuff is hard to follow! I can see there is a slave setting for jre but I do not understand how one is to supply an alternative setting for it. What is worse is that this output from the query seems to be missing a crucial bit of information. According to the man page on update-alternatives, in order to configure a slave link, one has to supply a "generic name for the master link" of the slave link, but this "generic name" is NOT shown in this output. So I got no idea what is needed, perhaps if someone could point me to a script that sets these up for the openJDK Java I might be able to grok this better. I took a shot in the dark and tried to do the following - sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/java/latest/bin/java" 40 --slave "/usr/lib64/jvm/jre" "java_jre" "/usr/java/latest/jre" and that BROKE things seriously. Apparently update-alternatives tried to do something, because it spit out the following warning - update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/java/latest/bin/java because link group java is broken. And after that, I couldn't do anything further with it, for example - sudo /usr/sbin/update-alternatives --query java update-alternatives: error: /var/lib/rpm/alternatives/java corrupt: duplicate slave link /usr/lib64/jvm/jre So much for robust software! Anywise, I managed to track down the location of the data base for update-alternatives and edit files directly to remove my wonderful additions, uninstalled and reinstalled openJDK and got update-alternatives back up and running. (Note to developers - PLEASE include documentation on where and how to manually repair things when your spiffy apps go haywire on a poor user! Took me hours to track this down!) At this point I am stuck and dunno how to create an alternative link for the slave jre link. I could just give up and create the links I need by hand, but after putting in so much time on this, I think others might like to know how to get an Oracle/Sun Java installation to work properly in this new model and I would be willing to write up some documentation in return for some help... Thanks in advance.. Marc.. -- "The Truth is out there" - Spooky -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] autofs mount permission problem
by lynn 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Hi I'll put the question first: Is there I way I can tell the automounter to respect the permissions of the folder it is mounting? Otherwise, here are the details: I'm exporting a folder like this: /etc/exports /home2/MARINA/staff *(rw,sec=none:sys:krb5:krb5i:krb5p,insecure) The staff folder has these permissions and has the home directories of staff members: drwxrwx--- 4 root staff On the client, here is /etc/auto.master /home2/MARINA/staff /etc/auto.misc and here is /etc/auto.misc * -rw,sec=krb5,vers=3 hh1:/home2/MARINA/staff rcautofs followed by mount shows: /etc/auto.misc on /home2/MARINA/staff type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=6,pgrp=4075,timeout=600,minproto=5,maxproto=5,indirect) Problem: On the client, the staff folder has become: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root The permissions remain even if the staff folder is accessed. Everyone has access. ANY folder I mount using autofs becomes drwxr-xr-x root root. Workarounds I've found: 1. Don't mount it directly: i.e. mount it implicitly as part of a parent folder. The problem there is that it defeats the object of having the autofs because the whole of the staff folder is mounted even if only one member of staff is logged in. 2. The big hammer: Run a script to chmod 0770 and chown root:staff on startup. Thanks, L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] libreoffice on NFS
by lynn 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

12.1 Hi Files on a share can only be opened ro in libreoffice. We can however open the same (correctly rw) in abiword. We can also read-write to the same directory at the cli. The google minefield on nfs-libreoffice-locking is prevalent, but does anyone else have anything more us specific? L, x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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