July 2011 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] SUDO always requires password 11.4
by James Knott 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

I have a directory /local/usr/bin/sudo, which I use to hold scripts that would normally require root privileges, but I want to start as a user, usually via the menu. I have used visudo to edit the sudo file in the same way as an 11.0 system, where this works as expected. However, I can't seem to get this to work without being asked for the root password. I have added "jknott ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/sudo/*", which is supposed to enable running items in that directory without requiring a root password. Is there some difference between 11.0 (and earlier) and 11.4 that might cause this problem? tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Java issues
by Joachim Schrod 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

Marc Chamberlin wrote: > I am running openSuSE 11.4 on an x64 machine, and when it was installed, > it installed the x64 version of the openJDK 1.6 Java by default. But > when I tried to install Eclipse and the Apache-James server source for > debugging purposes, I found that I could not run Eclipse using the x64 > openJDK. SO I uninstalled it and installed the i586 (32 bit version) of > Java 1.6 from Sun. You should not use Sun's 32bit Java, but the one from openSUSE. On our 11.4 64bit systems, we installed the following packages: java-1_6_0-sun-1.6.0.u26-0.2.1.i586 java-1_6_0-sun-alsa-1.6.0.u26-0.2.1.i586 java-1_6_0-sun-devel-1.6.0.u26-0.2.1.i586 java-1_6_0-sun-jdbc-1.6.0.u26-0.2.1.i586 java-1_6_0-sun-plugin-1.6.0.u26-0.2.1.i586 In case you don't know this: You do this with zypper install java-1_6_0-sun.i586 etc. I.e., you specify the architecture explicitly. Afterwards call update-alternatives --config java and select the 32bit Sun Java (that's the one in /usr/lib and not in /usr/lib64). I have also zypper-locked "java-*-openjdk-devel", though I don't remember why; maybe some left-over from a previous installation. It works very good, very few problems up to now. A few 32bit package versions of Java-related libraries are missing; we recognized libtcnative (for Tomcat) and libsvnjavahl (for Subversion). If you really need them, you have to compile them yourself, or learn OBS usage, or learn to use /usr/lib/mkbaselibs. FWIW, we don't use Eclipse from OBS (wouldn't even know if it's there at all); but install one from Eclipse.org in /opt. We can't rely on any distribution here, since we cannot use Helios and need to stay on Galileo, where JSF 1.2+Facelets still works. If you want to do so, installation notes tell me that we needed to install the additional packages mozilla-xulrunner20.i586 mozilla-xulrunner20-gnome.i586 I don't remember why, maybe to make Eclipse help working. HTH, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: chrony and hwclock
by Joachim Schrod 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

Per Jessen wrote: > > I don't use NetworkManager, and my systems run all the time. The > hardware clock is of course UTC, local time is CET/CEST. So, did you ever run systems with intermittent and unreliable time-delivered-by-GPS situations and used NTPD in such or similar environments? This reads more as in "my systems are almost always on-line and ntpd works there; it can handle the occasional drop in Internet connections". It's quite clear that ntpd works there like a charm. I had big problems in the past when ntpd decides that a time source is too unreliable and either drops it, or maybe even terminates itself because all time sources are too much off. I hope that it's clear that this is not handled by the ntpd service start when the servers are *not reachable at all* during startup. When they suddenly appear later on and are off completely, ntpd may lose its mind. ntpd has also great difficulties when time sources disagree massively what the time is. ntpd works great if you have multiple time-sources that are almost always available and where only quality of connection is managed by ntpd. The more spurious your connection becomes, and especially the more bad time source data quality is, the more problematic is its behavious -- and analysing "why for heaven's sake" the time got wrong this time is a herculean task that I wouldn't want to do for an embedded system that is literally off-roads. In the case of Roger, there is the additional problem that ntpd uses inherently a polling model for its time sources, with staggering polling intervals that shall spare the time servers from overload. AFAIU, Roger needs the complete opposite, a triggering model that takes into account each available PPS signal. Since I don't know chrony, I don't know if it delivers that -- but if it does so, if it is robust, and if the code looks good, I would go with chrony in the use case that Roger describes. Cheers, Joachim PS: In case this isn't clear: I fought with error analysis in big ntpd installations over several continents more often than I care to remember; at least if I want to sleep good at night. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: chrony and hwclock
by Joachim Schrod 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > Does the hwclock shutdown script maintain any > information used by any systems other than hwclock itself? No. (If you mean "hwclock shutdown script" to be /etc/init.d/boot.clock.) If chrony maintains the hardware clock / system clock relationship itself, chkconfig --del boot.clock and turn on chrony. But if chrony is only concerned with the system clock (as ntpd is), don't turn boot.clock off. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Software Management closes after install - openSUSE 11.4 - KDE
by James Knott 18 Jul '11

18 Jul '11

In 11.0, when a package was installed via Software Management, it remained open prompting for another package to open. However, with 11.4, Software Management closes immediately, requiring it to be restarted, scanning and all, before another package can be installed. This is an irritating waste of time, when installing multiple packages. Is it possible to restore the previous behaviour? tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Search KDE 4 Application Launcher
by James Knott 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

Dave Griffiths wrote: > If using classic mode for the menu, just use krunner via Alt-F2 instead. Then > typing the first few characters of the application name brings up a list to > select from. Would that not go some way to working around the limitation of > the classic menu? > The nice thing about that search was that it showed you where in the menu an item is. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Java issues
by Marc Chamberlin 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

I am running openSuSE 11.4 on an x64 machine, and when it was installed, it installed the x64 version of the openJDK 1.6 Java by default. But when I tried to install Eclipse and the Apache-James server source for debugging purposes, I found that I could not run Eclipse using the x64 openJDK. SO I uninstalled it and installed the i586 (32 bit version) of Java 1.6 from Sun. That resulted in a number of broken links in places like /etc/alternatives, /usr/lib/jvm.... Also the java files and links were not removed from /usr/lib64/jvm resulting in java environment variables such as JAVA_HOME etc being incorrectly set to point to x64 java packages (because of the mere existence of these files and links remaining in the lib64 directory). In other words, this resulted in a real mess and it has taken me quite a bit of time and effort to track down and fix. (which scares me because if an update for Java comes along, what is going to happen to all my changes...) My question is this, is running (or downgrading to) a 32 bit version of Java on a 64 bit machine not supported in openSuSE? Should I be complaining about it here (perhaps submit a bug report) or should I go to Eclipse and complain about not being able to run Eclipse under an x64 bit architecture? (Don't ask me what all broke, I spent a number of hours tracking things down and have no idea what all the changes I made were... and a few things are not well documented either so I had to make a few guesses...) Marc... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Lost title bar
by Anton Aylward 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

In experimenting with lightweight desktops, LXDE and XFCE4, I have managed to mess up my basic windows settings for everything including KDE4. In particular I've lost the title bars and with the ability to drag windows, resize them and so on. I have also messed up a lot of the basic desktop. I thought this was another one of those compiz problems, the one where you wipe compizrc and restart, but it seems not. Any suggestions as to what I should try next? -- Never try to reason the prejudice out of a man. It was not reasoned into him, and cannot be reasoned out. Sydney Smith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] DLS connection in 11.4 after fresh DVD install
by Istvan Gabor 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

Hello: I tried to install yesterday openSUSE 11.4 from install DVD (downloaded from download.opensuse.org). Unfortunately a known bug hit me when I wanted to configure DSL connection: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668586 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678396 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679112 In short, when one wants to configure DSL in YaST2 a window comes up and says: "These packages need to be installed: linux-atm-lib" If you click ok/install an error message pops up: "The required packages are not installed. The configuration will be aborted. Try again?" If you click No, the configuration is canceled, if you click yes, the loop starts again. In https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668586 comment 21 says: "Update released for: yast2-network, yast2-network-devel-doc Products: openSUSE 11.4 (i586, x86_64)" For me this implies that the issue is solved in the updated yast2-network package. Nope. I pulled down the required package and installed it manually. Now YaST2 instead of linux-atm-lib asks for libatm1 which is not on the DVD either, and configurator loops as before. Did I do something wrong or openSUSE? How can I fix this by not installing packages from other versions (11.2 or 11.3 eg)? In my opinion it is strange already that after a fresh DVD install a simple DSL connection can not be configured. This worked in every suse version I tried so far. Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] 11.4, cups and linux to linux printer sharing
by Duaine Hechler 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

On my main box, I always try to keep up with the versions. However, this time, after upgrading to 11.4, my cups, Linux to Linux, printer sharing broke. Applied the same parms and setting as 11.3 - firewall, etc. On my wife's box, the printers can be seen but there is some sort of error about not being able to get to the printer queue. Sadly, so far, in the end, had to roll back to 11.3, for now. Will testing this in VirtualBox work ? (Live system running 11.3, VB running 11.4) Thanks, Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing& Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler(a)att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home& Business user of Linux - 11 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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