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[opensuse] Re: Opensuse still not ready for consumers...
by Jim Henderson 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:03:10 -0400, James Knott wrote: > Jim Henderson wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:03:56 -0400, James Knott wrote: >> >> >>> FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The >>> person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than >>> I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the >>> problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with >>> any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That >>> person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also >>> seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply >>> claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report. >>> >>> >> Well, if you can reproduce it, reopen it and provide more information. >> >> Jim >> > I have reopened it. However, I need to know what info they need. They > never asked about anything beyond if I know how to use the keyboard etc. So ask them what info would be helpful..... Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] zypper issue / question
by Greg Freemyer 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

All, I have my install DVD listed as repository for zypper, but it is disabled. If I try to install a package via "zypper in iptraf", I'm getting a failure because /dev/sr0 is not available. Is something broke? Or am I doing it wrong? == Detailed info below See repository #1 as my /dev/sr0 repository. Note it is not enabled. > zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh ---+-------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdd,/dev/sr0 | cd:///?devices=/dev/hdd,/dev/sr0 | No | No 2 | home:jnelson-suse | home:jnelson-suse | Yes | Yes 3 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/non-oss/ | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/non-oss/ | No | Yes 4 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:10.3/standard/ | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:10.3/standard/ | No | Yes 5 | http://suse.cs.utah.edu/suse/update/10.2 | http://suse.cs.utah.edu/suse/update/10.2 | No | Yes 6 | migrated_1 | migrated_1 | No | Yes 7 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | Yes | No 8 | openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3 | openSUSE-10.3-DVD 10.3 | No | No 9 | openSUSE-10.3-Updates | openSUSE-10.3-Updates | No | Yes 10 | openSUSE:10.3 | openSUSE:10.3 | No | Yes 11 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | No | Yes 12 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes 13 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes 14 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | No | Yes 15 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes 16 | ruby | ruby | No | Yes But zypper fails and complains about /dev/sr0 > zypper in iptraf Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following NEW package is going to be installed: iptraf Overall download size: 290.0 K. After the operation, additional 660.0 K will be used. Continue? [YES/no]: Retrieving package iptraf-3.0.0-138.3.i586 (1/1), 290.0 K (660.0 K unpacked) Failed to mount cd:///?devices=/dev/sr0 on : Mounting media failed Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: Greg - Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Need to get open SUSE DVDs in bulk-around 400 copies
by Aveek Sen 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

To whom it may concern, I am a student of NIT Agartala, India & the founding and active member of our newly formed LUG. We plan to hold an install fest within two weeks in our college. It will involve our college & 3 other colleges as guests-TIT, ICFAI and TMC. We have already distributed 50 or so Fedora 10 DVDs I obtained from the fest(Mukti '09) in NIT Durgapur. Picasa link to it is-http://picasaweb.google.com/aveeksn/LUG01?authkey=fZsmUXMB08M&feat=direc… We want to do so for other distos as well. Plase send us the DVDs quickly. Thanking you, Yours sincerely, Aveek Sen, NIT Agartala, India. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Opensuse still not ready for consumers...
by James Knott 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Anders Johansson wrote: > On Friday 13 March 2009 03:03:56 James Knott wrote: > >> Here's the report: >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461820 >> > > "I know what I'm doing, how dare you suggest anything for me to try, I'm a > highly experienced user who knows perfectly well what I'm doing" > > This is how anyone would read your comment #5. Communication skills are > important. > > You didn't even provide the requested information from comment #4 or do the > suggested gdb to get more information about what's going on. > > I read your comment as "I don't want to help you in any way at all - now fix > this problem even though you can't reproduce it". Did you get many customers > like that at IBM? > > Anders > If you look at my comment #3: "The keyboard is completely unresponsive. I cannot use C-A-D to reboot, nor C-A-BKSP to restart X." You'll understand why I was a bit upset with the questions in #4. What does it mean to you, when someone says what I did, as quoted above. For me, it means that I cannot do anything with the keyboard. Do you read it differently? And yeah, I have been working with computers for over 30 years and know to check the basics. As for reproducing it, he didn't use the same version and I didn't have 10.3 available to compare with. As for when I was at IBM, I'd ask for further info, perhaps logs etc., to see if there were some clues. I would never simply say I can't duplicate it, therefore the problem doesn't exist. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Opensuse still not ready for consumers...
by Jim Henderson 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:56:40 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote: > Maybe I've went too far recently, but when I am asked to offer feedback > for a meeting, and then my feedback is ignored, I don't get into too > good of a mood. An important distinction is that feedback that is not incorporated is not necessarily ignored. Or put another way, it's not really fair to say that it was ignored just because it was not incorporated. When you get people with conflicting feedback, both pieces of feedback are considered, but decisions have to go one way or the other. Just my $0.02 from having heard the "my feedback was ignored" so many times over my lifetime when I know for a fact that it wasn't. I don't know for a fact in *this* case, of course. Just speaking in generalities. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Patch for hal and policykit
by Tamas Sarga 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I read the description of the patch for hal and policykit, that "Some dbus services may break due to this setting and need an updated configuration as well." What does it mean really? What kind of services could broke? TIA. Tamas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm6jBsACgkQsuVyj8v2Zy5NpwCfRmBf/z2FMn7pKEuhwl7Xp4tH p9oAn1XAAXIbGSpeh67ccveWOO9X+y3E =dAAH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] deleting from NAS
by lynn 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

I have a cifs share mounted from NAS. When I delete from the NAS it puts the files in the client's xfce4 wastebasket. How can I make it just delete? cli delete is not an option. Thanks. Lynn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Co-existing in a dynamic network Howto?
by Marc Chamberlin 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Marc Chamberlin wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Marc Chamberlin wrote: >> >>> John Andersen wrote: >>> >> >> >>> Many thanks John, Kai and Dave for your replies... Kai you probably hit >>> it on the head, a Win's like automount would probably do the trick and >>> yeah I have tried most of the mount options you guys mentioned... What >>> would be really cool is if there was a way to automagically discover all >>> the computers on a network, much like Windoz does, and then I could >>> create a list to work from... >>> >> >> I thought that "avahi" was for that, but I don't know how. >> >> >>> Your suggestions however has got me thinking and I think you have put me >>> on a path that might work, at least for Linux/SuSE systems.. (I will >>> worry about Windoz separately....) I am now trying to write a script >>> that will periodically run via a cron job. It will ping and test to see >>> if each computer, on a list of known computers on our network, can be >>> found. Depending on the results, this script will dynamically modify the >>> contents of fstab within a specially comment delineated region. >>> >> >> You could simply have the remote mounts marked "noauto". These should >> not be mounted automatically during boot, but will have to be manually >> mounted by a command. You ping, it is up, then mount. >> >> Or, instead of automated by cron, another script to mount shares, >> which first pings the machine, then mounts the share. The user gives >> the name of the machine or the directory that he wants as a parameter. >> If the other machine does not respond, give the appropriate message. >> >> Mounting manually on request might have the advantage if the user >> happens to know how long the other machine is going to be up. >> >> Mmm... I wonder if machines that are about to be unplugged could >> broadcast some kind of message so that the users connected to its >> shares have time to umount safely. >> >> >>> Now to figure out where the hooks are to inject my scripts into the boot >>> up and shutdown processes... I think I know - /etc/rc.d looks promising... >>> >> >> Read the man page and the admin book! SuSE is different in this >> respect, and simply writing scripts there, and adding links manually, >> will not work. There is a readme there and an skeleton sample script, too >> >> - -- >> Cheers / Saludos, >> >> Carlos E. R. >> (from 11.1-ex-factory) >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkm5FVkACgkQU92UU+smfQU9bgCfUnLpwVyiQIsJMzxzzUg2j1Kr >> 1VIAn0s6blyTDy2enwEKOHs/4X4pWJcm >> =qoWs >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > Thanks Carlos for your reply.. I was not aware of Avahi so will go an > poke my nose into it.. (so much to learn, so little time!) > > As for your suggestions on mounting file systems, I am pondering on em > to see if they can apply.. I am trying to come up with a solution for > our network users that rely as little as possible on them having to do > anything... Make the mounting and sharing of file systems as automated > as possible and robust enough to survive a dynamic network environment > without a lot of inconvenient delays... I can install scripts on each > laptop/desktop at will, but they will need to be able to not only > handle a "work" network configuration, but a "home" one as well... > This means my scripts must be adaptable to different networks and not > force the user into having to do any sort of reconfiguring manually... > > I will RTFM the admin manuals and look for the examples as you > suggested, before I go mucking around installing my scripts... I think > I am getting the big picture in my mind on how to proceed, and will > delve into the details in a bit.... > > Marc.. > > > P.S. Sorry Carlos I did not mean to reply to your personal address, durn Thunderbird email client won't set the reply to properly for the opensuse mail list... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Question about kde backporting
by Tamas Sarga 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I know that OpenSuse backported a lot of things even from kde4 to kde3, for example the new k-menu style. What about backporting of features and bugfixes from 4.2 to OS 11.1's KDE stable repository? Are there backports? I just ask because factory is too bleeding edge for me on my main desktop. TIA. Tamas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm6ixMACgkQsuVyj8v2Zy45xQCfZKh4bOmRBBDUZK8u0yeH5aNh nGsAn2RH3EZl10xht+mGsInqWr5Zi+sG =jpHC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] After yesterday updates plasmoids background turned to black
by Bogdan Cristea 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

After updating my system, openSuSE 11.1 32 bits, with zypper up, the panel and plasmoids (system monitor, weather plasmoid, Desktop folder) background turned to black. The issue is that some text becomes unreadable. Am I the only one with this issue ? -- Bogdan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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