[opensuse] Re: Opensuse still not ready for consumers...
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:56:40 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:
Maybe I've went too far recently, but when I am asked to offer feedback for a meeting, and then my feedback is ignored, I don't get into too good of a mood.
An important distinction is that feedback that is not incorporated is not necessarily ignored. Or put another way, it's not really fair to say that it was ignored just because it was not incorporated. When you get people with conflicting feedback, both pieces of feedback are considered, but decisions have to go one way or the other. Just my $0.02 from having heard the "my feedback was ignored" so many times over my lifetime when I know for a fact that it wasn't. I don't know for a fact in *this* case, of course. Just speaking in generalities. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jim Henderson wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:56:40 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:
Maybe I've went too far recently, but when I am asked to offer feedback for a meeting, and then my feedback is ignored, I don't get into too good of a mood.
An important distinction is that feedback that is not incorporated is not necessarily ignored. Or put another way, it's not really fair to say that it was ignored just because it was not incorporated.
When you get people with conflicting feedback, both pieces of feedback are considered, but decisions have to go one way or the other.
Just my $0.02 from having heard the "my feedback was ignored" so many times over my lifetime when I know for a fact that it wasn't. I don't know for a fact in *this* case, of course. Just speaking in generalities.
Jim
FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report. Here's the report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461820 -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report.
Here's the report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461820
I had a look at that bug and you should have reopened with your last comment. IMO if windows and 10.3 work but 11.0 doesn't that is a clue for the assignee to find the bug. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Plater wrote:
James Knott wrote:
FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report.
Here's the report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461820
I had a look at that bug and you should have reopened with your last comment. IMO if windows and 10.3 work but 11.0 doesn't that is a clue for the assignee to find the bug. Regards Dave P
I just reopened it. Let's see what happens. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Plater wrote:
James Knott wrote:
FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report.
Here's the report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461820
I had a look at that bug and you should have reopened with your last comment. IMO if windows and 10.3 work but 11.0 doesn't that is a clue for the assignee to find the bug. Regards Dave P
Forgot to mention, at the same time, I also submitted another bug about Wake on LAN not working on an IBM Netfinity server. That one's still in progress, but moving slowly. At least they're doing something and specified what additional info they needed. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
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FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report.
Here's the report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461820
After reading this bug I have to agree with James the person that closed the bug either needs to learn more English or needs more training with openSUSE. 10.3<>11.0 when testing problems! -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:03:56 -0400, James Knott wrote:
FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report.
Well, if you can reproduce it, reopen it and provide more information. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jim Henderson wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:03:56 -0400, James Knott wrote:
FWIW, I recently filed a bugzilla report of an XDMCP problem . The person assigned to it tested with a different version of OpenSUSE than I reported. Since he didn't experience the problem, he closed the problem. This, despite the fact that I can replicate the problem with any computers I care to try. The bug was ignored and not fixed. That person made absolutely no attempt to request any other info. He also seemed to imply I didn't know what I was experiencing. He simply claimed the problem didn't occur and closed the report.
Well, if you can reproduce it, reopen it and provide more information.
Jim
I have reopened it. However, I need to know what info they need. They never asked about anything beyond if I know how to use the keyboard etc. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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