November 2009 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] OpenSUSE weekly News #92 out!
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

We are pleased to announce: Issue 99 of openSUSE Weekly News is out! [0] In this week's issue: * Dominique Leuenberger: Compitz 0.8.4 * Michal Hrusecky: Status Report – Media Wiki Theme * Linux.com/Joe Brockmeier: Vim 101: A Beginner’s Guide to Vim * Pavol Rusnak: Fedora and openSUSE Community Engagement * Nmap 5.10BETA1 released For a list of available translations see this page: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/99/Translations [0] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/99 Have a lot of fun! -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Member openSUSE Ambassador openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Blog: http://saigkill.wordpress.com ClaimID: http://claimid.com/saigkill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] WiFi after suspend to RAM on netbook
by Clayton 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

I've been puzzling over this one for a day or two... I've just re-installed 11.2 on my EeePC 1005HA. It generally works perfectly... almost.. WiFi is doing something odd that I cannot really sort out. On cold boot, the WiFi connects to my router (using WEP) and I have full speed connection. Everything works perfectly. I close the lid and suspend to RAM, and then open and my desktop is back in about 2 seconds. WiFi renegotiates it's connection to the router, and connects in about the same time as it does after a cold boot... but... the network speeds are very very very slow.. to the point that the browser usually times out before a page will load. A reboot will clear it up and I'm back to full speed again. Any ideas on this? This netbook has an Atheros 9285 (I believe) wireless chip which uses ath9k kernel module. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Fwd: Re: Beginner: How do I mount a floppy disk? Withdraw
by jdd-gmane 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Le 28/11/2009 19:48, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit : > No need to wait on anyone to stop dragging your thread out. Please, ask your > questions and we'll try to answer them. but of course, do open an other thread :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Beginner: How do I mount a floppy disk? Withdraw
by Thomas Blasejewicz 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Good evening from Japan Thank you all very much for the information and instructions. Apparently this has become a very annoying thread and seems to be causing people to fight with each other. It had not been my intention to cause so much trouble. I would like to withdraw my question and ask the list to prehend "it never happened" - if that is possible at all. Since I have many more questions I would like to ask (and possibly get answered), I believe this is the most appropriate thing to do. Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Thunderbird doesn't open a link in browser.
by jdd-gmane 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

sorry chaps if this have already been said, but in 11.2, (mozilla 3.5.5), I could make thunderbird open mozilla. *from mozilla*, "préférences" (I don't know the english word), verify if firefox is the default navigator. If it's not, you have a window proposing to make it default. I did and now ff opens from links in tb jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Lost Knetworkmanager
by Anton Aylward 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

I booted Friday morning and my KDE GUI told me that Knetworkmanager had died. It was gone from the system tray. Well I tried restarting it manually and was told that it was already running. But it wasn't in the system tray. My laptop's Wifi had come one and without the manager icon how could I turn it off? And anyway, it lied. I did a 'ps' and there was no knetworkmanager running. I rebooted, and there was no knetworkmanager. I started it by hand as the KDE user (not root) and it told me, again, there was one running (and there wasn't), but perhaps I might want to have it restart on the next boot. It also said knetworkmanager(6865) NMDBusSettingsService::NMDBusSettingsService: Unable to register service QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied", "Connection ":1.62" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings" due to security policies in the configuration file") Which it never had before. Where did that come from all of a sudden? Talk about unhelpful error messages! I chose 'yes', bit it still wasn't there on a reboot. Well Millennium Hand and Chips to that, I had better things to do. So, Saturday morning I boot the laptop again, and still nothing in the system tray and still no knetworkmanager running according to ps. According to /etc/sysconfig/network/config I have NETWORKMANAGER="yes" And the ifcfg-wlan0 also says STARTMODE='manual' so I'm not sure why it comes up. But then maybe I had an error in the setup of knetworkmanager. But with it gone, I can't tell. How can I get it back? And why do I have modem-manager running? Oh, yes: OpenSuse 11.1 Linux BigBoy 2.6.27.37-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-10-15 14:56:58 +0200 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux NetworkManager-kde4-lang-0.9.svn1043876-128.1 NetworkManager-kde4-0.9.svn1043876-128.1 NetworkManager-kde4-libs-0.9.svn1043876-128.1 kdebase4-runtime-4.3.3-152.10 etc -- Two key perspectives from Jim Collin's book "Good to Great". 1) "Being great is a decision" and 2) "Being good is an enemy of being great" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Kmix query.
by Erik Jakobsen 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Hi. I would start Kmix on my opensuse 11.2. It acts as it would start -with the icon flashing-, but shortly after it dies. I tested it in a terminal too, but nothing happens but the prompt is back again. How can I get Kmix up running ?. /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Driver for integrated graphics 845G
by Sam Rahman 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Hi everyone, OpenSuSE 11.2 doesn't have support the integrated Intel 845G graphics chip on my computer. But I do remember that graphics was supported in 10.3. None of the other releases since 10.1 came with graphics support for my computer (no higher resolution than 1024x768). Is there a way to take the graphics driver from 10.3 to to install on 11.2? Or how otherwise can I get the graphics working well for my computer with OpenSuSE 11.2? Many thanks, Sam -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] OpenOffice.org stable packages fro 10.3
by Paul Korossy 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

Hi, Can I find somewhere an OpenOffice.org stable repo with version OOo 3.1 for OpenSUSE 10.3? Repo: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_1… doesn't exist any more. Thanks, Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Beginner: How do I mount a floppy disk? Summary
by Richard 28 Nov '09

28 Nov '09

On Fri November 27 2009 11:14:39 pm you wrote: > Good afternoon from Japan > I am really sorry for the private mail. But this does not really relate > to the "case" - > and somehow, if I hit the "reply" button, the message goes not to the > list (it does on other lists), > but the sender. (don't know how to fix that) > That is usually a function of your mail client. It appears that you are using; User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) for your E-Mail? This was from the header of the message you sent me and on several of the messages you posted. Are you running Thunderbird under Windows? I wasn't aware that TBird announced itself as "Windows/version". Anyhow, TBird *should* allow you to go to the menu and instead of selecting REPLY, there should be a "REPLY TO LIST" option. If not, then you need to go to mozilla and download a plugin (the name escapes me at the moment, sorry) that adds that function to TBird. Idealy, you should seriously consider KMAIL as that is built into KDE4 and as you were describing using features and applications found in KDE4, it would be a simple matter to switch from TBird to KMAIL. KMail can import your mail structure and contacts from TBird. I used to use that product but wouldn't go back after using KMail. Just a thought. KMail has all the appropriate reply functions built in. In KDE4.3.3, it even has an acceptable HTML mail editor although HTML is somewhat discouraged in E-MAIL, especially in mailing lists, however, in the case where you wish/need to use it, it is nice to know the feature exists now. Not as 'spiffy' asTBird or Doze, but acceptable IMO. Thomas, normally I would respond to your private mail via private mail soley unless the matter involved the posting in <opensuse>. However, while this message could be deemed appropriate for a private response, on 4 previous attempts to contact you privately including 1 mail you sent me directly, your ISP bounced the messages indicating the reply address I was using (cut and paste also tried) all resulted in: � �----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx.s.dion.ne.jp.: >>> DATA <<< 451 <unknown[67.214.171.66]>: Client host rejected: Requested action aborted. <thomas(a)s7.dion.ne.jp>... Deferred: 451 <unknown[67.214.171.66]>: Client host rejected: Requested action aborted. <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients Thus, I cannot reply privately and your ISP or your mail client need to be adjusted/corrected to accept mail sent to the address in your reply-to address. That said, and after verifying that I cannot send messages to you any other way, and this reply is germaine to the issue of your problem, here is the rest of my reply to your message to me... > > Thomas, you're a PhD, but that doesn't make you a Linux expert, or even a > > computer expert. > > Thank you very much for that flattering assumption (PhD) ! Where did I > earn this much credit? Regardless of your actual education and field of endeavour, you are an expert in *something*, it doesn't have to be Computers. I give everyone credit for graduating from the school of hard knocks until they prove otherwise. > By profession I am an acupuncturist and as such consider myself a > physical laborer. > So, you have skills I and most others don't have. Conversely, I have a few you probably don't have. That's what makes the world tick. > Usually, I start all my posts with expressly (!) stating that I am NOT a > computer wizard and ask people to talk to me in "plain English", > since I do not understand that computer jargon. > BUT, as a translator (I earn our living with translations) I HAVE TO use > a computer. The days of handwritten texts are over. So, you are multi-lingual. Me too, I speak English and Linux :) You speak English and Japanese and ... ? ... and are learning Linux. > I have been doing this for about 25 years: "just using" computers (DOS, > Windows, Mac); no thinking about their "guts". > You are right: I am NOT a computer expert. Actually, I don't care much > about computers and if you ask me, I don't even want to know all the > details. Well, sometimes you *need* to know a little about the 'guts'. Kinda like your car. You may not need or want to know all about the design variables about your car engine and drive train, but you want to know enough to be able to use its' features completely and even do rudimentary trouble shooting when it fails to run correctly. I mean, you don't call a mechanic when you run out of gas, and you want to know when it needs oil or water in the engine and air in the tires and why. You will want to know how to check the transmission fluid and recognize signs of overheating or damage by noting the color and odor of the fluid on the dipstick because if you don't, you might well end up stuck in the boonies with a huge repair bill vs a simple bands adjustment if caught early enough. Your computer is the same. It 'just works' most of the time, but you need to be able to ask it 'how do you feel?' and head off bad things like failing disk drives, full disk, damaged file system structures, and such. It isn't hard to learn these things, but it does take *some* effort and it is worth that effort. I mean, you don't go to the doctor for every little ache and pain you have, you learn to recognize how to determine if you are seriously ill or not because the effort is worth it. Even if you don't want to be a brain surgeon. > THAT has brought me already many times severe criticism from various > list members. > Yes, well, there are dunderheads in all professions, in all groups. If you are part of a professional association, you probably have a few in that group too. > I am just another idiot wanting to drive a car: get it - turn the key - > drive. Well, there is a difference between IDIOT (the ability to learn) and UNEDUCATED, (not yet having learned). So, unless you are truly mentally challanged, drop the 'idiot' thing...ok? I can appreciate the 'Turn the key and drive' analogy, but if you do that without some maintenance, sooner or later, that key turn won't do diddly squat. So, your 'job', is to learn what maintenance your computer (one of the tools of your trade) requires in order to work and continue to start when you turn the key. > NO interest in detailled knowledge about pistons, ignition sequences, > motor oil components etc. So, I'll not try to infuse you too much with Boolean Algebra and Logical NAND gates and so on, but it would help to read the owners manual of whatever car you buy, and the same goes for your computer. Both are tools, both are electro-mechanical devices, both have needs (maintenance and operating proceedures) that must be adhered to in order to work well (or at all) and both wil make your life hell if you don't do those things and both will make your life much easier if you do take care of those things. The efforts are relatively small, and the rewards are relatively large. > This desire has brought me the reputation of being an idiot - not worth > and not suited of going near Linux. > I have found that Doze is actually harder to learn (from scratch) than Linux is. It is just that Doze is what most people are exposed to first and because Linux IS somewhat different, it seems hard at first. For those *starting* with Linux, they tend to have much less problems than those starting Doze for the first time. Modern versions of Linux are much more plug'n'play than Doze is most of the time. Modern Doze (Windoze 7) doesn't even have a browser in it, no word processing, no multimedia, really, not much of anything. The user has to download all that stuff and install it and then there are the viruses, worms, malware, spyware, trojans, anti-virus, anti-worms, anti-this, anti-that, and almost all of it expensive. Linux distros generally are complete with everything except viruses, worms and such and also for the need for anti-this and anti-that. Overall, less work and less installation problems and much more secure. It also works on older hardware that Doze snubs its' nose at because it isn't new/big/fast enough. No, Linux isn't perfect, but overall, it is a better deal and the price is right. As for you not being worth going near Linux, YOU determine your worth. If you feel your worth includes going near Linux, that is your decision, not the dunderheads of the world. > I am trying to do this already for TWO years! And I am not getting > anywhere. Most of the time I tried to be friendly and asked questions as > good as I could, which was apparently not good enough for the computer > experts, who graciously explained to me that I am too stupid. > EXPERTS don't explain, graciously or otherwise, that you are too stupid. They are probably hiding their inability to TEACH their expertise to you. Of course, YOU have to be a willing student, willing to expend energy and effort. I can have all the knowledge in the world, but I am unaware that humans have any holes in their head where I can spoon in knowledge. Each person has to gather the knowledge from whatever sources that become available and filter it in via their eyes, ears and any other senses that can be used to get it into you brain and make sense of it. A good teacher will try to present the information as completely as possible, but YOU need to ask the questions in such a way as to extract the knowledge you need. Otherwise, the teacher will innudate you with too much 'stuff', much of which you either already know or don't need or that isn't useful at the moment. Your questions will help your teacher customize the information to your needs. A teacher can't learn anything FOR you , you have to do that yorself. The teacher can only present the information he has already learned for you to assimilate. > After all this time, effort (and some money) spent, I am starting to > become irritated. And becoming irritated solves what? Maybe it means you are asking the wrong questions of the wrong people? So, change tact. It's a big ocean. Someone can and will help you if you are calm, cool and patient. No one can solve your problem FOR you, the best they can do is HELP YOU solve your own problem(s) by providing the best information and advice they can muster based upon the best queries you can muster. Hopefully, your questions will improve as you learn about your system and how it works and interacts with Linux. > Have you ever tried to do something, that should not cause any problem > at all and could not make it work trying for 2 years? > Yes....I still don't understand women :) > I WANT to get away from the thing you call "Windoze" (for reasons of my > own, I do not want to go back to Mac, which I used for several years), > but Linux is NOT (!!!) making this easy. > Linux is an inanimate object. That is like saying the car hurt you foot when it ran over it. The car didn't do it, the driver of the car caused the device to run over you foot. Don't blame the car, blame the driver...or yourself for sticking your foot under the wheel as it went past... Linux is a TOOL, nothing more. It is a relatively complex tool, but like most complex tools, once you learn how to effectively use it, it becomes much easier and increases your productivity. Linux is a 'mind amplifier', like a lever is a strength amplifier. Both take a little knowledge to use properly, but both can be very valuable when used properly. > I am really sorry for the disturance and will try not to bother the list > more than absolutely necessary. > I don't think you are bothering the 'list'. A lot of the 'lurkers' are just waiting to show the world something and you occasionally might give them their chance. Of course, what they choose to show can be anything from their posterior (spelled as--) or can be their smarts, or smart a---es or more often, their willingness to help. However, few get 'bothered', and those that do probably should 'lurk' elsewhere. > Thank you. > Thomas Blasejewicz > Tel/Fax: 046-875-9946 > thomas(a)s7.dion.ne.jp > www.einklang.com You're welcome Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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