October 2009 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] hp w2207h
by William Biggs 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

I have a hp w2207h 22" lcd I need the drivers for it or how do I set the display up the reg is 1680X1050 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Hostname is different from what I specified
by Chris Lincoln 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

I very clearly specified the hostname during the setup to be Caesium; However, for some unknown reason, OpenSUSE decided to use the hostname Beryllium instead. The only place I know of where it could have gotten the name from is my Windows 7 install, which has that hostname (Beryllium). However, Windows 7 is on a different hard drive. Is there a way to correct this? How could this have happened in the first place? I am using OpenSUSE 11.1. It was installed directly from the DVD (not in Windows or anything). ~Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Missing eth0 interface
by Stan Goodman 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

As I reported in a previous thread, the inability of my laptop system to see the Ethernet controller was solved, and I was able to connect with the Internet. After shutting the machine down and booting it in the morning, I found that I am no longer able to communicate with the outside world. Network Devices now reports the controller as "not connected", meaning that it can see it. (In theprevious thread, it reported that the controller was not in hwinfo.) Running ifup on the interface produced: ***** # ifup eth0 Interface eth0 is not available. ***** I have to google for help in rectifying this. I got many hits, but nothing very helpful. How can I restore eth0? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Problems with re-login
by Anton Aylward 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

I have a problem when I log out and log in again from KDE kdebase4-4.3.1-119.3 libkdecore4-4.3.1-169.1 kdelibs4-4.3.1-169.1 libkde4-4.3.1-169.1 kdebase4-openSUSE-11.1.2-78.7 and so on ... It doesn't matter if I log out using the KDE toolbar/menu, manually via kdeinit4_shutdown or do a "init 3" then "init 5". Its always the same. It takes a long, long time (many minutes) for the login panel to appear and then when I've entered the password and the login panel has gone away again a long long time for the various icons to process indicating KDE start-up before the applications appear. The applications all come up before the KDE items on the screen and its maybe five minutes before the KDE toolbar panel at the bottom of the screen appears. Even then, the various items on the toolbar respond slowly, its a few minutes after they are clicked that they pop-up. The xorg level seems fast enough, when things appear they snap up OK. Its the latency that is the issue. I haven't drilled down on every details of this, but I have used a remote login (which was fast enough) via ssh and run 'ps' to try and see what's going on. During that time waiting for the login dialogue box and during the time waiting for the basic KDE start-up icons to step though I see that there is a process called 'hal-find-by-property' that runs. I understand what that does, but I don't understand why the delay. The delay does not occur when the login comes after a boot. My problem is not simply the delay, it is that the delay occurs after a logout and when trying to log back in. HAL seems to be a garbage bin into which a whole pile of things have been thrown and I find its use quite confusing, exceeding even the old 'sendmail' - and I'm sure you could write a calculator in 'hal' too :-( But why this delay? Isn't the database indexed? And regardless, why the delay on re-login and not on login after boot? /a -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Understanding repositories
by Joachim Schrod 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: > > I am feeling very stupid asking these questions but feel that it is in > everyone's interest, as it will hopefully create a meaningful > explanation of repositories to enable newbies, and others, to better > understand the term of repositories or repos and what/when to use > them. > > I so far have the oss, non-oss and update repo loaded via Yast and am > wondering why there are repos for Firefox, Openoffice.org etc. Are > these available for the braver souls to use as they might break > something in openSuSe? Yes. > Repos as a software store are handy but do I need a repo for each > program I install so that I can get updates to the app? No. Repositories are collections of software packages that you can install on your SUSE system. The following rough categorization has proved useful for me: 1) Official stable repositories: oss, non-oss, update. They should be always enabled; this is the definitive source for your SUSE installation. 2) 3rd party repositories: Software collections that are not by SUSE. These are those where the URL's host name does not end in opensuse.org. The most important of those is Packman. It adds all kins of media formats that SUSE must not distribute for license and patent reasons. See http://opensuse-community.org/Repositories for more information. Also of interest may be the NVidia and ATI repositories, if you have respective video cards. See http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories 3) SUSE repositories for projects. They hold more current versions of applications. (Applications on your SUSE system are only made more current when you upgrade to a newer distribution.) Important projects with such repositories are: KDE, GNOME, OpenOffice, Mozilla. They have URLs where the project name is prominently at the front, after the host name. Very often these versions are brand-new, it is problematic to tell a generic recommendation if one shall use them. Rule of thumb here is: If you want to try out a newer version, install it using these repositories. If you are not interested and are satisfied with your applications, leave them off. 4) SUSE repositories for areas of interest. E.g., a collection of network management packages, or Perl packages, or similar. They have URLs with generic part names, like http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/network:/utilities/ The content of these repositories is most often very spotty, may conflict with your base installation, and they are often not well looked at. You should use such repositories only if you need an application from them that is not in one of the repositories from above. (See below how one finds applications.) 5) Personal SUSE contributor repositories. They have a URL part with home:/ in them. Stay away if you are not confident to use experimental software or if you urgently want an application from there. (Here's to lnussel who provides plan for old farts like me!) > If I want to install an application that is openSuSe > specific/compatible, where should I look? You use http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ to search for packages. This service searches both package names and descriptions. A command line version of that search service is available as package webpin. You'll need an Internet connection for it to work. > Looking at the repo service I am bombarded with terms of build > service, factory, oss, non-oss, update, src-oss etc. Build service (aka OBS) is a developers' tool to create packages in repositories. All SUSE repository packages are created with that service. For that reason, the set of all repositories that are available via http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/ are sometimes colloqially [sp?] called build service repositories. Factory is the snapshot of the next SUSE release. Don't use it on systems that you rely on, this is for experimentation. If you've heard of Debian unstable or Fedora rawhide, that's like them. src-oss is the repository with Sources for your basic openSUSE packages. OK, 'nuff for now. I hope this helps; explanation of "how to use repositories with experimental software in a controlled way without hosing up my system" is left for another time... ;-) Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Junior Jobs
by Michal Hrusecky 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hi, lately we formulated concept of openSUSE Junior Jobs[1]. Maintainers of openSUSE packages can choose some of theirs easy bugs and mark them as Junior Jobs. Then anybody from community can volunteer and fix these issues. These tasks will be easily fixable and their purpose is to let people learn how to contribute and to create some easy task so anybody can join and start participating. [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Junior_Jobs -- Michal HRUSECKY SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xFED656F6 19000 Praha 9 mhrusecky[at]suse.cz Czech Republic http://michal.hrusecky.net http://www.suse.cz

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[opensuse] Understanding repositories
by Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hi all, I am feeling very stupid asking these questions but feel that it is in everyone's interest, as it will hopefully create a meaningful explanation of repositories to enable newbies, and others, to better understand the term of repositories or repos and what/when to use them. I have looked on the opensuse site and not found an explanation to the questions below so I ask for all your assistance here to either answer the questions or provide a link to explanation of the questions. Looking at the repo service I am bombarded with terms of build service, factory, oss, non-oss, update, src-oss etc. Define the build service and factory repo and are they considered stable and suitable to work with openSuSe? When should each be used? Repos as a software store are handy but do I need a repo for each program I install so that I can get updates to the app? If I want to install an application that is openSuSe specific/compatible, where should I look? I so far have the oss, non-oss and update repo loaded via Yast and am wondering why there are repos for Firefox, Openoffice.org etc. Are these available for the braver souls to use as they might break something in openSuSe? Your assistance is appreciated in helping me learn the system. Regards Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] NIC installation: What is this error?
by Stan Goodman 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

The NIC in this Vostro 1510 notebook is shown by Network Devices as: <RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabyte Ehernet Controller>. The kernel is v2.6.27-9-default. Having found the PCI ID of the card (10ec:8168), and acquired the appropriate driver file from the RealTek site, I attempted to install it, following precisely the instructions given in its readme file, which says that the driver is intended for v2.6 kernel.. The process ended with "Error 2", which reminds me of a line written by Douglas Adams in "A Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy". I do not know how to interpret this error, and do not know where to find a list of errors for the driver. Here is what happened when I got to the point of running Make: # lsmod | grep r8169 r8169 31388 0 mii 6024 1 r8169 # rmmod r8169 # lsmod | grep r8169 # tar vjxf r8168-8.014.00.tar.bz2 r8168-8.014.00/ r8168-8.014.00/readme r8168-8.014.00/Makefile r8168-8.014.00/src/ r8168-8.014.00/src/r8168.h r8168-8.014.00/src/Makefile_linux24x r8168-8.014.00/src/rtl_eeprom.c r8168-8.014.00/src/Makefile r8168-8.014.00/src/r8168_asf.h r8168-8.014.00/src/rtl_eeprom.h r8168-8.014.00/src/r8168_asf.c r8168-8.014.00/src/r8168_n.c # cd r8168-8.014.00 # make clean modules make -C src/ clean make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stan/NIC/r8168-8.014.00/src' rm -rf *.o *.ko *~ core* .dep* .*.d .*.cmd *.mod.c *.a *.s .*.flags .tmp_versions Module.symvers Modules.symvers Module.markers *.order make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stan/NIC/r8168-8.014.00/src' make -C src/ modules make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stan/NIC/r8168-8.014.00/src' make -C /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-9-default/build SUBDIRS=/home/stan/NIC/r8168-8.014.00/src modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7-9-obj/x86_64/default' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.27.7-9-obj/x86_64/default' make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stan/NIC/r8168-8.014.00/src' make: *** [modules] Error 2 # -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] opeSUSE wiki needs editors
by Rajko M. 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

If you have interest to create, edit and organize the openSUSE documentation at http://en.opensuse.org we need you. There is often complaint that there is hard to find information on openSUSE wiki, that information is not up to date, or articles are hard to read and understand, and that is to some extent truth. The problem is that there is not many people that will browse wiki and look for misplaced, outdated, wrong, information, that will correct errors, discuss, and give ideas, how to organize information, and how to organize maintenance in a first place. The http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team is understaffed for the size of the wiki to the extent that only some urgent tasks are done. There is no time to discuss how to organize information, research Internet for examples and analyze them, to pick up already developed methods to deal with information, and apply them to our wiki. The methods used on Wikipedia work for very large numbers of contributors that can organize themselves in groups that take responsibility for portion of Wikipedia information maintenance, but for our small wiki we will be happy to have few people more interested in such activities. -- Regards, Rajko OpenSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] SuSE Trivia
by David C. Rankin 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Name that OS? Linux blackbird 2.6.8-24.16-default #1 Thu Jun 2 12:09:57 UTC 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Hint: There is no open in it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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