December 2003 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

fortran random number generator
by steve-ss 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Could you please advise on the g77 fortran equivalent of the routine call gettim(ihr,imin,isec,ihth) particularly to obtain ihth. Or just anything in 9.0 that will generate a random number. Thanks and happy new year

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KDE hiccup
by Alain Barthélemy 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hello, Little KDE problem this morning on my laptop: Here follows part of .X.err XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Build Operating System: SuSE Linux [ELF] SuSE Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Dec 29 11:50:25 2003 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" failed to open catalog, using default messages BScreen::BScreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x23, depth 16 gimp: Chargement de la palette /home/alain/.gimp-1.2/palettes/Web (ligne 219) : composante ROUGE manquante gimp: Chargement de la palette /home/alain/.gimp-1.2/palettes/Web (ligne 219) : composante VERTE manquante gimp: Chargement de la palette /home/alain/.gimp-1.2/palettes/Web (ligne 219) : composante BLEUE manquante duplicate plug-in: "/usr/lib/gimp/1.2/plug-ins/xsane" (skipping) kcontrol: relocation error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: esa_base_compressed_texformat konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: esa_base_compressed_texformat ======================= As you can see, no problem to run GIMP (Gnome-based program) but if I try to run a KDE-based program (Konqueror and kcontrol here) I had problems with /usr/lib/LIBGL.so.1 I could not start KDE (blackbox well but no KDE-based programs). After two reboots, the problem was solved. Thus temporary problem of library access. Is there a more delicate way to solve the problem than two reboots (too much windowsian for me). -- Alain Barthélemy cassandre(a)bartydeux.be http://www.bartydeux.be Linux User #315631

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Mail Question
by Marcel Hoogeveen 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hi, My suse 8.2 box tends to drop mail to non-existant users in the postmasters account. How can i set it to reject those mail? Google wasn't my friend today :( Marcel.

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Re: [SLE] Speed of 9.0 vs. 8.2; & architecture compiler ops and upgrade problems
by l. Athena W. 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

X-Message-Number-for-archive: 169630 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:54:10 +0100 Message-Id: <200312010954.10417.mail(a)steve-ss.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] Speed of 9.0 vs. 8.2// 9.0 is too slow on our lan with PII 450 clients with 128 RAM. We have had to stick with 8.2. On fast boxes like our server, it's fine. Steve. (sorry david, forgot to post to list) --- Saw this and had a thought. I read about architectures in a gcc code production and optimization article a year or two ago -- I don't know if things have change or what options produce what effects, but at the time, most vendors were producing i486 binaries, not i586. The article said if you ran a Pentium-Pro (first generation of i686), P-II or P-III, you were better off with code optimized for a i486 than a i586. Turns out that the first Pentium was a bit weird in architecture and it wasn't until the Pentium Pro that the architectures were made compatible with earlier CPU's (like the i486). The essense was if you had a Pentium Pro or better, the best optimization was (in order (i686, i486, i386, i586). Seem the i586 code paths were the worst for the other processers. While I mentioned this to both Mandrake (they were they only one's producing a 586 compiled version back then) and have mentioned it to SuSE, I was ignored by Mandrake and Suse told me I'd have to pay support fees to have my support problem answered as the basic install support didn't cover problems with code generation or speed. I ran into other problems...silly me, got too used to MS world, where you install 1 vendor's "update product", and it checks not only previous versions of the same vendor, but checks for versions of alternate vendors and correctly upgrades your system whether you are upgrading from a same-vendor product or a different vendor product! While I bought the 8.2 pro upgrade, due to being limited in typing and mousing, I never had a chance to install it on my main server. When 9.0 came out I tried to go straight to 9.0 from 8.1. I found out, after having my attention drawn to the fine print, that this is not supported. This was after the 9.0 upgrade wiped my 8.1 RPM database but left the files telling it what version to look for for YAST Online Update -- so even I booted from DVD -- I told it to upgrade all versions of products it found and remove RPM's that were no longer supported. Instead, it updated some packages, then wiped out the RPM database but didn't uninstall the old versions of the 8.1 products. I was left to try to install the necessary 9.0 RPMs by re-running the install and choosing new install (update showed zero rpms left that needed updating, even though it only updated about 30 rpms and deleted about 20 (I had about 500 packages installed). I didn't want to reformat, so I copied my root files to a different partition (came in handy later), and added all of the needed RPMs -- base system and server type files to my selection by hand and let it overwrite the old files, in place. My intent was/still is to go through and index the old 8.1 files match them up with any remaining files on my system by MD5/size/DT and remove unchanged files and adding their 9.0 equiv rpms. It's been a very harry situation -- not the least of which is I still have the problem of getting YAST online to work -- not, (goddess knows why?!) it thinks I am at 8.2, though I installed no 8.2 files on the system. So I can bring up YOU and it tells me it has no updates for my system (of course not, the rpms are all 9.0. I wrote a _simple_ email to suse support, but they've hired microsoft help service folks to man the first line support -- Since the what version you have loaded (eitherr 8.2 or 9.0) is stored *somewhere*, it should be possible to edit that file and have YOU work properly with 9.0. Just a simple edit requiring the simplest of understandings of the YOU process. The answer I got was typical of someone with the intelligence and ability to only read a script. They didn't know what file needed to be corrected, so they told me that upgrading 2 versions at once wasn't covered by the "free install support" and that I could hire them to tell me the answer. Otherwise, I should reformat my OS disk and reinstall just like those cursed with Windows are usually told -- sorry we don't know the answer. There are too many bugs in our OS to track it down, and we don't really care about the bug or quality, so we really don't wish to spend the time or resources to isolate the real problem, so we want you to reformat the system and destroy all evidence of the problem and reload from scratch -- of course, since you only purchased an upgrade edition, installing from scratch may not be supported either...neither is it supported if you have more than 1 hard disk and more than 1 CDROM, and definitely not if you are disabled and have a laptop and are forced to use an external keyboard and screen...that's way unsupported -- even though you never use the laptop builtin keyboard and screen -- we only support the builtin screen which is always turned off in your setup. Oh...you have a SCSI adapter and an IDE adaptor? We don't support systems with SCSI in them with our free install support -- IDE drives only. I could likely go on...but I haven't been able to use support since they switched to the new support policy since none of my systems seem to be in the narrow band of systems they support. Even when I used the laptop builtin monitor, at the time, the chipset in the Dell I had was unsupported and I'd have to buy a 3rd party driver which they couldn't not support (and which would invalidate my support warrantee). Yeah...very much like MS they are getting. At least MS seems to build in kernel support for all the kernels (a reason they are so bloated on disk), and they load the kernel appropriate for your system -- oh yeah, another thing that disqualified me from support, I had a 2-P SMP (me: "how about if I remove a processor" : nope: it's a multi-p motherboard....not part of standard support). Bleh!!! Anyway, if you get everything working to your delight, you might try recompiling a kernel, at least, maybe the window system, but most of all, the kernel, specifically for your machine. Even going from an SMP compiled kernel to a UP kernel can get you 10-20% speedup in kernel ops (or used to on 2.4...dunno about 2.6). Athena

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Fwd: Re: [SLE] Anyone runs Java Plugin in Konqueror succesfully? thanks
by Milan Zimmermann 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

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Spamassassin learning
by Bob S. 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hello SuSE people Having a problem making Spamassassin learn. Using the command "sa-learn --spam --mbox /home/bob/Mail/spamin This is the mailbox I use to file all the spam in. After the command I get the reply " 0 messages learned" Also, once I finally get this working, how/where does Spamassassin put the identified spam mail? I use kmail. Do I need to create a folder in Kmail and tell Spamassassin? Bob S

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Re: [SLE] Dial out.
by Mark Gray 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

"Malcolm Candlish" <bm(a)candlsh.freeserve.co.uk> writes: > Hello, > > I have been using SuSE 9.0 very successfully until suddenly when I dial = > with kppp the log returns:- > ATZ > error > After this the dialer hangs. If I use Kinternet the log states > Z error > After this it tries 3 times and hangs. > > I am writing this with the dreaded Win XP, which proves the modem and = > connection is still functioning. > > Any ideas = > please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= > !!!!!!!!!!!! Try changing your modem-init string to 'AT&F1' (It will be in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-ppp0) This is based on the guess that something is wrong with your stored ATZ configuration. Hope this helps.

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Printing from Evolution
by Tom Nielsen 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

How do I setup my printer in Evolution? I imagine I do it in some Gnome app, but I can't locate it. When I print now, it sees my printer, but when I press the Print button, nothing happens. Thanks, Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

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RE: [SLE] eth0 ..DHCP...No IP Address yet ...backgrounding.....
by Ben Higginbottom 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

>Can anyone help with this please as after 6 months of struggling I am at >a loss and have scoured many forums but to no avail!! Try booting into safemode, if you obtain an IP, then you just need to add the option acpi=off to the grub menu. Regards, Ben

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Epson C64
by Mark Doucette 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hi all, I'm trying to install a new Epson C64 printer in SuSE 9 and seem to get nothing but endless blank pages feeding through. I plugged the usb printer in and it was automatically detected by the SuSEplugger and I went on to configure it with the default settings (foomatic/gimpprint etc), but upon trying to print with it it just feeds through blanks. I tried to google it here, but to no avail and the archives search engine is down. If anyone has set this printer up in SusE 9 I'd appreciate some input. Thanks in advance -- Mark Doucette SuSE Linux 9 SuSE Rox Linux! Get it? Got it? Good!

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Sound Blaster 128 PCI
by Fred Miller 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

'Anyone using this card in 9.0 (Sound Blaster 128 PCI) ? Have you had any problems? I'm looking for a good "main stream" not off-the-wall maker sound card that's a GOOD SAFE install for newbies. Thanks! Fred -- "...Linux, MS-DOS, and Windows XP (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)."

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Global CPU usage metrics
by David Carter 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hi folks, I'm running SUSE 9 on a k6-2 with kernel 2.4.21-144. When I run top I get a CPU consumption of ~10%. This is pretty consistent. vmstat reports ~5-7%. UCD-SNMP reports 37-51% and a demo version of OpenView Performance Agent reports similar. The sum of the processes supports the values reported by top and vmstat, so why are the UCD-SNMP and OVPA values so wrong? And why do they seem to agree? Thanks in advance, Dave

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Stopping print jobs.
by Carlos E. R. 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hi, I can not stop print jobs. I'm using SuSE 8.2 and cups: cer@nimrodel:~> lpq -a Rank Owner Job File(s) Total Size active cer 332 (stdin) 26065920 bytes cer@nimrodel:~> lprm 332 cer@nimrodel:~> lpq -a no entries cer@nimrodel:~> So there are no print jobs, but the printer goes on printing. I stop cups: nimrodel:/var/spool/cups # rccups stop Shutting down cupsd done nimrodel:/var/spool/cups # rccups status Checking for cupsd: unused But the printer continues printing. Why!? I see a big file in '/var/spool/cups/tmp' dated now - I forgot to compare its size with the deleted job. I delete it... and printing continues. There is nothing under '/var/spool/lpd' ps afxl|less shows a job: F UID PID PPID PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TTY TIME COMMAND 0 0 9178 1 15 0 2800 652 schedu S ? 0:03 parallel:/dev/lp0 332 cer (stdin) I guess that the culprit must be "/usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel". Why wasn't it stopped when I stopped cups? Perhaps 'lprm' must be used as root? Finally I stop the printer with "kill -9 9178" (the -9 seems to be needed). Then I can restart cups. Peace! Is this a bug? SuSE 8.1 was also unable to stop print jobs (I asked here about it). Certainly stopping a print job should really stop it. To whom can this be reported? -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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Re: [SLE] Email Auto-Download Daemon?
by Carlos E. R. 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

El 2003-12-28 a las 14:54 -0500, James Kuzdrall escribió: > Thank you ! > > Renaming fetchmailrc to fetchmailrcx does it. (As suggested, > fetchmailrc does not exist in my "properly-working" system.) I thought so. > We must have activated the firewall in YaST by accident. Do you mean to say you connect to Internet without firewall? That's asking for trouble... -- Saludos Carlos Robinson

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[9.0] hwclock segmentation fault
by Adolph & Sharon Weidanz 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey all; Yesterday, for some reason (messing around) I changed the clock to use UTC. From that time, I've since set it back to local, however I've had a hwclock segmentation problem since. I checked suse portal and they had two pages that seemed to offer some help, but hasn't cleared up the problem. If I do an adjust time through KDE or Yast, nothing will change, If I change the time and hit accept, the time sdtays the same. I've deleted /etc/adjtime then run ntpdate ntp2..... This resets the clock imediatley. If I try and run hwclock -(anything) in root, it comes back with a segmentation fault. I am back in local, and when I boot I get the $HWCLOCK segmentation fault every time. I have checked the bios clock and it is correct, also booting back into winxp showed the correct time. The laptop is only 6 months old.. Any help would be appreciated.. - -- Adolph & Sharon Weidanz S/V Time To Paws 43' 1978 Endeavour Ketch -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/73uxlC+PSm9+eB0RArZ1AKCc8FBiSV0eaZQpFK7CV7Fx1H/7sgCdF0TC yBjycv/Iij0VNGFF6uEOubk= =XSU2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Using supplementary as an installation source in yast2?
by Bob Pearson 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

SLP 9.0 i386. ftp.suse.com has a supplementary directory for RPMs that are not security or updates. What is the correct path to use in yast2 to collect these packages? I realize they are not supported. I have tried to get yast2 to see them in yast2->Change Source Of Installation->Add->FTP using various directory paths to no avail. For instance using: /pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.0/ /pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.0/yast-source I get the following error: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unable to create installation source from UTL 'ftp://ftp.suse.com///pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/ update_for_9.0/'. Details: Error(InstSrc:e_no_instsrc_on_media) Try again? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can some one give me a pointer to the correct path? Do you have to do this for each component (X, KDE, GNOME, GNOME2, etc)? Shouldn't this be somewhere in the SuSE Unofficial FAQ? ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/README.txt was not of help on how to use YAST to accomplish this. TIA. Best Regards. -- _/_/_/ Bob Pearson gottadoit(a)mailsnare.net _/_/_/ "The best way to get information on Usenet is not to ask a _/_/_/ question, but to post the wrong information." - Aahz' Law

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Server solution?
by Anders Norrbring 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Hiya all! I'm about to set up and configure a server based on SuSE Pro 9 for a customer who's going to run it as the base for a web & mail hosting service. What recommendations can you guys give me on package choices for mail services? SMTP/POP3 is essential, webmail is a strong wish, IMAP isn't at all important. Thank you in advance! Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting

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WAS "A good book on C programming", now an APPOLOGY
by Gavin Henry 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Everyone, I was had this pointed out to me, by Simon Perreault <nomis80(a)nomis80.org> (with my reply): "On Saturday 27 Dec 2003 8:49 pm, you wrote: > 1) Please do not cross-post. (This means sending the same message to many > lists.) OK, guilty, but I wanted a varied response, as different people subscribe to different lists. > > 2) Please stay on topic. This has nothing to do with Fedora. Fedora is GNU/Linux, there are C programmers, like you that use Fedora, and it is a general discussion list. What's the problem? I'm not asking for money for for you to join some crazy scheme. This kind of attitude annoys me about GNU/Linux, I am not wasting anyones time, so I don't see what the problem is." And his last reply: "On December 27, 2003 16:11, you wrote: > This kind of attitude annoys me about GNU/Linux, I am not wasting anyones > time, so I don't see what the problem is. Yes, you are wasting time (and bandwidth, as there are some people on very slow connections) when you are not on topic. This list is not even about GNU/Linux, it is about Fedora. General Linux questions do not belong here. This is Fedora-related stuff only. There are tons of Linux and C mailing lists. This is a quick lesson (that everyone must learn, I did too) on netiquette. You should Google a bit on that topic, particularly on stuff related to mailing lists." I am sorry if I have wasted everyones time and bandwidth, but I have spent the last 3 days searching for up to date links and book reviews, some things you never find, like the website: http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/public/ recommended by another user. I admit, I have cross posted, as I not only use Fedora, but Debian, SUSE and Gentoo. These are all different distro's with different user bases. I wanted to get a good feel of what are good texts from all the C programmers out their. I didn't get a response like above from anyone else. Even Alan Cox replied to me. What I don't understand is, and I quote, "This list is not even about GNU/Linux, it is about Fedora." What is Fedora then? Again, sorry to waste everyones time, but you have all helped me out. Gavin. - -- Regards http://www.magicfx.co.uk http://www.suretecsystems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7fz6gNqd7Kng8UoRAsomAKCxTqw+mdTsXmzex5HBWWrnEXyP1ACffDko frSNITekHxjBAFouZ+DHtyE= =HI4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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reiserfs fails
by Ellaree Beaty Philippen 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

On 9.0 pro. bootup, reiserfs fails. Knoppix was plopped on top of SuSe . CD is accessable.I could easily reinsatall 9.0 but that might be tacky. No idea how to proceed. Thanks ellie(a)wam.umd.edu

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Samba printing help needed
by George H. Griffin 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Help: I have spent too much of the past two days trying to set up printing from a win2k machine to a samba server running SuSE 9.0. I can browse shares on the server, even a DVDROM, from the windows machine and have been able to install both printers on the server (a Lexmark E322 on the parallel port and HP psc950 on a USB port) onto the windows machine. They both show "ready" but when I try to print a test page nothing happens (nor have I been able to print from an application). After a few minutes the test page message shows up on the windows machine asking me to check OK or trouble shoot, but nothing happens on the printer. When I check the /var/log/cups/error_log I find the following lines: D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631. D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] ReadClient() 6 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest: 6 status_code=0 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] ReadClient() 6 POST /printers/psc950 HTTP/1.1 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] print_job: auto-typing file... D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] print_job: request file type is application/octet-stream. D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] check_quotas: requesting-user-name = 'ggriffin' D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] print_job: requesting-user-name = 'ggriffin' I [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] Adding start banner page "none" to job 63. I [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] Adding end banner page "none" to job 63. I [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] Job 63 queued on 'psc950' by 'ggriffin'. D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] Job 63 hold_until = 0 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] StartJob(63, 0x809e510) D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] StartJob() id = 63, file = 0/1 E [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] Unable to convert file 0 to printable format for job 63! I [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] Hint: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed? D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] CancelJob: id = 63 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest: 6 status_code=0 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] CloseClient() 6 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] AcceptClient() 6 from localhost:631. D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] AcceptClient() 8 from localhost:631. D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] ReadClient() 8 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [27/Dec/2003:15:35:50 -0700] ProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=1 I do have ESP Ghostscript installed. I've also uncommented these lines in the /etc/cups/mime.convs file: application/octet-stream application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - and mime.types file: application/octet-stream that, according to some samba printing information I've found, is supposed to allow printing from windows machines. The error message is the same with both printers. I've tried following the windows trouble shooting guide without success, including attempting to redirect a local printer port to the server printer using the "net use" command. For some reason when I try to do that the windows computer can't find the server printer although I double checked to make sure I'm entering the correct name. (Again, both printers are visible from the windows machine when I browse, or look for them when adding a printer.) I can print to the Lexmark via samba from an old iBook running Yellow Dog Linux 3.0 so samba seems to be set up properly, but I have the same problem printing with the psc950 from the iBook as from the windows machine. Bother printers print fine from the server machine, both test pages and from applications. Any suggestions would be appreciated as my meager knowledge has been exhausted at this point and I've not been able to locate any helpful information in the SuSE support database or through Google. Thanks, George -- George H. Griffin Powered by SuSE Linux 9.0, kernel 2.4.21 "Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps" Emo Philips

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RE: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas!
by Stephen Villano 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

I've felt a bit smacked around a bit regarding some of the rather mild flames and one rather inane response that left me wondering if that was the same mouth he French kissed his mother with (fair is fair, *HE* brought *MY* deceased by one year and two weeks mother into it)... I've also felt quite the ass once the story was shown to be BS... However, what I said *IS* my opinion. The bitch of it is that I also agree with the stolen oil argument, I just didn't want to confuse some political issues with military ones... GWB is a total idiot. Complete package. This, from one of his own party to boot. :/ First focus: Forget getting the people water in the summer 130-140 degree F heat, make sure the oil is flowing. We must endear the populace to us... The frigging phones over there *STILL* don't work worth a damn, though militarily it makes a great deal of sense... For our Whitehouse, all I can say is that the keystone cops are in command. I agree with moving in and removing the existing ruler of Iraq, not because of "proof of possession of WMD", but because of two reasons: One it was long overdue DUE to material breaches of the cease fire. Two: Though the people of Iraq don't DESERVE a better ruler (people deserve the ruler they tolerate), they SHOULD get a better offering as a matter of convince to the rest of the entire region as well as the world. Let's just hope that that new government takes better care of their PEOPLE instead of themselves or other governments due to perceived debts... Still, this is BEYOND OT here. We really SHOULD find a better venue for this as I rather feel bad about *MY* inflammatory (or is it onfamatoury) contribution to this thread. This *IS* a SuSE linux list. I also didn't get a response to one question in *MY* rather heated original response when asking about sparc releases... As for those who want to continue the regrettable political responses, MY god can beat up you god any day. We'll have them meet in the playground Monday after school to prove it... Seriously though, if you want a political forum, I'll set up a listserv for it and we'll turn into another UN with it. Let's take this off this list totally, it is FAR beyond. And as for what an American company will do to SuSE: We can only HOPE for the best whilst preparing for the worst... :/ PLEASE don't unsubscribe due to my personal lapse in discipline here, I've been on this list for a long time and will do my best to NOT turn this into another warzone. Happy Holidays to all who participate. And to those who don't, have a pleasant season! (Sorry that doesn't sound better, but I'm FAR from a diplomat.) -----Original Message----- From: Donald Henson [mailto:wepin@wepin.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:50 AM To: SuSE Linux E Subject: Re: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas! My only question is should I unsubscribe from this list now or should I wait until this threads turns into a full-fledge flame war? Don Henson On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 02:23, mwafkowski wrote: > To the original poster et al: > > Fuck You, Fuck Your Mother and Fuck the Hole you and your subhuman > compatriots crawled out of... > > MRW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William G. Westfall" <wgwestfall1(a)hotpop.com> > To: "Stephen Villano" <steve(a)LWR.yi.org> > Cc: "Suse-Linux-E@Suse. Com (E-mail)" <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:56 AM > Subject: RE: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas! > > > > You didn't read it man... Your reply was in english not german! > > > > On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 00:11, Stephen Villano wrote: > > > > > I *REALLY* feel your pain. Especially around the ribs from the belly > > > laughs... > > > Been saying much of the same for years. Probably why I haven't been > promoted > > > as I'm not "progressive". I come from a much older Army. The one that > meets > > > the enemy and kills the hell out of them, thereby not having any more > > > enemies (or at least the few remaining are sufficiently frightened as to > not > > > cause the nation any trouble). > > > That doesn't mean I want to go to war "at the drop of a hat", I'm a > > > professional. As such there must be sufficient reason to wish to break > the > > > peace. I'll advise against an ill conceived military action. I will > follow > > > orders, but any objection will be quite well documented... > > > Frankly, professional soldiers are the *LAST* people who wish to visit > harm > > > against another human. However, once the necessity is present visit said > > > harm with vehemence. > > > I've shaken hands and tipped back a drink with an officer who some > > > years before was shooting at me as we are no longer dire enemies. We > were > > > both professionals and acknowledged that past was past, we were both > doing > > > our jobs for our respective nations. > > > Has our nation done wrong in the past? Will it do so again in the > > > future? How about a simpler question: Are we human? > > > We'll make mistakes. We made some MAJOR ones in the past, current events > are > > > the direct result of some of them. I'm certain we'll make them in the > > > future, we haven't stopped being human. > > > The second biggest test is what we'll do about them in between to > prevent > > > another disaster. The biggest test is what we'll do about them if we > *CAN'T* > > > prevent another disaster. > > > I've found that you can tell a LOT more about a person NOT when things > are > > > at their best, but indeed when things are at their absolute worst. > > > Now if only we could learn as a species to bring the best of ourselves > > > displayed during a disaster forward to our normal existence... > > > > > > Sorry for the long OT bit, just HAD to vent... > > > > > > Closer to topic: 9.0 is the best thing to come out since they put > handles on > > > popsicles. > > > I am a bit confused though if the sparc platform is available in a > current > > > version... > > > > > > Gonna try playing with the 2.6 kernel as soon as I can shoehorn in some > time > > > on my calendar... > > > > > > Happy holidays to all, for those who don't observe our holidays: Have a > > > pleasant, peaceful and prosperous year. > > > And to those few who can't even observe the latter: Welcome to my > world... > > > ;) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: William G. Westfall [mailto:wgwestfall1@hotpop.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 1:42 AM > > > To: suse-linux-e(a)lists.suse.com > > > Subject: [SLE] so OT it hurts...Merry Christmas! > > > > > > > > > General speaks out > > > > > > Merry Christmas; > > > > > > I thought that you might enjoy quoting General Hawley over the holidays. > > > This four-star says it pretty well. > > > > > > > > > For those who don't know General Hawley, he's a newly retired USAF > > > 4-star general. He commanded the USAF Air Combat Command [our front-line > > > fighters and bombers]. The Command headquarters is at Langley AFB, VA. > > > General Hawley is now retired and no longer required to be politically > > > correct. His short speech is very much to the point. The following are > > > excerpts: > > > > > > > > > "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such > > > surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too. > > > > > > "Here they are: > > > > > > 1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen > > > carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me > > > now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't > > > mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy > > > on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country > > > has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be > > > the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in > > > history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what > > > happens. > > > > > > 2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you > > > usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. > > > Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: > > > Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, > > > half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully > > > thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to > > > more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. > > > That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "re-educated," not "nurtured > > > back into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E --Well, you get the idea. > > > > > > 3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us." > > > For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the > > > ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not > > > protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee > > > Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided > > > that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy > > > satellites. "After all (they reasoned), you can see a license plate from > > > 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a > > > license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans > > > is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we > > > bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the > > > really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans > > > into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks > > > like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a > > > coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet > > > that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving > > > the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years. > > > > > > 4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at > > > us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a > > > desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than > > > Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless > > > people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in > > > power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes > > > into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew > > > this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching > > > against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any > > > cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend > > > more time drinking. It's the same today. > > > > > > 5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the > > > Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an > > > article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden > > > family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, > > > never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm > > > crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for > > > a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor > > > in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and > > > turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't > > > offend them." > > > > > > So here's what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered > > > brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their > > > immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political > > > science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper > > > sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No > > > More Pearl Harbors." > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) > Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release Date: 12/22/03 > -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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Latest nVidia driver (5328) for Linux
by Basil Chupin 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Guess what? It works. What went wrong? But before installing, get/read the HOW-TO from the Suse ftp site- ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/ . Cheers. -- Wagner's music is really not as bad as it sounds.

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cpudyn
by Benjamí Villoslada 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

New cpudyn version works fine with SuSE: http://bulma.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1946 -- Benjamí http://bitassa.com .

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SuperKaramba
by Adolph & Sharon Weidanz 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am looking for superkaramba .33 in a suse 9.0 rpm. I would appreciate if someone could send it or tell me where I might download it. the site : http://www.marcooo.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1882 isn't up and I don't know how long before it is. I did try compiling from source, but ran into way to many problems, so I just would like to get the rpm.. Thanks - -- Adolph & Sharon Weidanz S/V Time To Paws 43' 1978 Endeavour Ketch -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/7z5QlC+PSm9+eB0RAms4AJ42Zh4uVLfXOq94VtJuyhxIWEKSQwCfSvSv hiEOjQKqpHfhAIvl0sC06pY= =cYWN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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USB sorta working: 9.0, Asus A7V8X
by David Kramer 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Fairly recent SuSE 9.0 Pro install, Asus A7V8X motherboard, Athlon 2400+ CPU. The motherboard has six USB2.0 ports and three firewire ports. I'm having trouble with most, but not all, USB devices. I have a Dazzle multiformat card which works with CF cards but not SD cards, which is what I really want. I also have a Sandisk Cruzer 256MN USB thumb drive, and a external USB2.0 IDE enclosure. Both devices work on a Red Hat 9 box I have, and under Windows. The strange thing is that the devices are seen on the USB bus, but I can't access them, no matter how I try. The relevant section of /proc/bus/usb is: C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=256ms T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=02 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=0781 ProdID=8185 Rev= 1.25 S: Manufacturer=SanDisk Corporation S: Product=Cruzer Mini S: SerialNumber=000182341 The output of lsusb is: Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion Back-UPS Pro 500 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0781:8185 SanDisk Corp. However, if I try "fdisk -l /dev/sda", or "cdrecord -scanbus", or "mount /dev/ sda1", those programs just hang indefinitely. I can't kill -9 it, but if I kill -9 the shell, it dies. I've STFW and seen references to USB problems due to IRQ problems. cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 86658338 XT-PIC timer 1: 30031 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc 9: 259461 XT-PIC acpi, DE450-TA (eth0), ehci_hcd, usb-uhci, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 10: 2236 XT-PIC eth1, ohci1394 11: 7332626 XT-PIC EMU10K1, radeon@PCI:1:0:0 12: 388710 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 1364913 XT-PIC ide0 15: 269 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 422 MIS: 0 I've also tried turning off ACPI in grub, and disabling as much on-motherboard hardware as possible. I don't know why it says radeon@PCI:1:0:0, when my video card is a ATI AIW 7500 AGP card, though. Hope I gave enough information/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david(a)thekramers.net http://thekramers.net DK KD DKK D Shop smart! Shop S-Mart DK KD DDDD

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