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[opensuse-marketing] [Weekly News] Issue #69 is ready for translation
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

Hi @all! Issue 69 of the openSUSE Weekly News is ready for translation [0]. You can see/update the status of your language at the "whats ready page" [1]. We collected some FAQ here [2]. [0]: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/69 [1]: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Translations/Ready [2]: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/FAQ Have Phun! -- Sincereley yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service openSUSE Features Screening Team Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] Xface image for News guys.
by Rajko M. 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

Based on xface image that Sascha is using I made the one included in this post. I guess it would be nice to identify news guys at work :-) The whole procedure is more than simple. Click and hold the image in the email, drag it on a desktop, or any other folder, change name to something that one can remember, and then from KMail-Settings-Identities you can use Modify, tab Picture to add it to your KMail. It works that way in both KDE3 and 4. For those that need separate image news-geeko.png is attached. -- Regards, Rajko http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/

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[opensuse-marketing] Weekly newsletter
by Piotrek Juźwiak 24 Apr '09

24 Apr '09

I propose to include news about susestudio allowing building 64 bit personal distros :) I was personally waiting for that for a long time so others like should know the truth :) Best Regards Bender -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] Weekly newsletter icons
by Stephen Shaw 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Why on earth is our distro icon a slightly modded vista retail box? Are we Microsoft Linux? Do we need anymore bad pr? Cheers, Stephen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Weekly newsletter icons
by Stephen Shaw 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

> If we're going to have a box as the icon for this, let's at least use our > own boxes as the basis for the icon ;-) > -- > Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy > The world is awesome. You are awesome. That's a good point. We do have a box set. If its not pretty enough that we have to use someone else's then I propose a box redesign! :) Stephen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] [OWN] RFC: New announcement mode of available translations
by Jan-Simon Möller 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Hi @all Newsletter Team members ! Today we plan another way to announce the available languages: We'll link in the announcement mail / news.o.o post to this page: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/68/Translations ( its http://<ISSUEURL>/<ISSUENR>/Translations ) Pro's (imho) : * no (delay) anymore in the announcement mails * can be changed if language is done (announcements not) * more flexible Con's: * No direct linking in the announcements anymore . For Sascha and me this is much easier to handle. What do you think ? Comments ? Best, Jan-Simon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Marketing and development (Was: Re: [opensuse-marketing] T-shirt tagline?)
by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

2009/4/15 Martin Schlander <martin.schlander(a)gmail.com>: > Onsdag den 15. april 2009 17:15:43 skrev Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier: >> 2009/4/15 Александр Мелентьев <alex239(a)gmail.com>: >> > openSUSE: Powered by Lizards, Designed for Humans >> >> Good one - any thoughts? Improvements? > > One thought that comes to my mind whenever openSUSE marketing is discussed, is > the total detachment of marketing from the actual product >:-) Inserting a totally new topic into an existing discussion makes it very likely that otherwise cogent, thoughtful, and useful ideas will be ignored, so I'm starting a new mail thread here... > ZMD (10.1+10.2), KDE 4.0 pushing (11.0), and non-working kbluetooth, cd- > burning, compiz, amarok2 etc. (11.1), constantly changing updater applets > (every release from 10.0->11.1) and other major risktaking and blunders in > recent years are not what I consider "designed for humans". Sorry that you feel that way. I think that some people would agree that some features fell flat, but I'm going to suggest that if you want to have a productive discussion about this a slightly less confrontational tone (not to mention, starting the discussion in a relevant thread rather than hijacking another discussion) would help. > And if openSUSE is actually supposed to be productive, working, easy to use > and gaining marketshare beyond geeks, then development decisions/priorities > should reflect those goals. No disagreement here. And I think that you'll find with 11.2 that some of the decisions we've already made (and will make) mean that openSUSE 11.2 will be better all around than previous releases. (Which is not to say those were poor releases...) > A while ago a discussion about distribution focus was being prepared, which > filled me with hope that something would be done which really mattered, but > nothing has happened so far... > I'd like to see http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Distribution_Focus Let me see what we can do on this topic... Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb(a)zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] [Weekly News] Issue #68 is ready for translation
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

Hi @all! Issue 68 of the openSUSE Weekly News is ready for translation [0]. You can see/update the status of your language at the "whats ready page" [1]. We collected some FAQ here [2]. I've attached the en.txt for the translation-tool as file. [0]: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/68 [1]: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Translations/Ready [2]: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/FAQ Have Phun! -- Sincereley yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service openSUSE Features Screening Team Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com

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Re: Marketing and development (Was: Re: [opensuse-marketing] T-shirt tagline?)
by Alberto Passalacqua 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

Dear Zonker, first of all, sorry for the poor quoting in this email, I just copy and pasted it from the archive, because I did not receive it. Still I feel this topic _very_important_, so I reply ;-) >>ZMD (10.1+10.2), KDE 4.0 pushing (11.0), and non-working kbluetooth, >>cd-burning, compiz, amarok2 etc. (11.1), constantly changing updater >>applets (every release from 10.0->11.1) and other major risktaking >>and blunders in recent years are not what I consider "designed for >>humans". >Sorry that you feel that way. I think that some people would agree >that some features fell flat, but I'm going to suggest that if you >want to have a productive discussion about this a slightly less >confrontational tone (not to mention, starting the discussion in a >relevant thread rather than hijacking another discussion) would help. I don't see why someone that points out some issue has to be labelled has "too confrontational", whatever that means. A community is confrontational in nature, and it grows thanks to that, and not because everyone agrees on everything. The decisions taken as examples by Martin were the cause of a major pain for us old users and for all the newcomers, not to talk about the users they alienated. This cannot be fixed by good marketing, because good marketing works if you listen to users and satisfy their needs, and I have to say some important step was done or is being done for 11.2. But I still think there is too much emphasis on marketing something, without knowing what this something actually is (see discussion on focus, later). I would also like to add that if a critics comes from a strong contributor and long term user like Martin, it should deserve a better consideration. I don't think anybody has fun to point problems, but neglecting them is worse. After all, if we are still doing this kind of discussions is because at a certain point the connection between developers/decision makers and community was lost at least in part. What Martin said in substance is that an inconsistent marketing is of no real use, and I believe it can actually cause damage. It is always better to be honest and realistic. >>And if openSUSE is actually supposed to be productive, working, easy >>to use and gaining marketshare beyond geeks, then development >>decisions/priorities should reflect those goals. >No disagreement here. And I think that you'll find with 11.2 that some >of the decisions we've already made (and will make) mean that openSUSE >11.2 will be better all around than previous releases. (Which is not >to say those were poor releases...) It is what we all want, and in different ways and with different ideas (probably too many, and not coordinated) are trying to do. But I think it will take time to re-build the trust relationship between "insiders" and community after the past experiences. Which of course doesn't mean we won't try. We would not be here to hammer you so much if that were the case! >>A while ago a discussion about distribution focus was being prepared, >>which filled me with hope that something would be done which really >>mattered, but nothing has happened so far... >>I'd like to see http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Distribution_Focus >Let me see what we can do on this topic... I had big hopes too about the Focus discussion, especially because the idea came from inside Novell, and this was interpreted by me as the will of finding a sort of agreement to match the needs of both (N and community). I don't know the reasons why this discussion didn't actually start, it might just have been delayed. But I really think that having a main goal for the project is vital. It is vital to the community, because it gives a clear idea of where the project is going, and it is vital also for not contributing users (I know someone is not interested in them, but I think they're key to spread openSUSE and attract new contributors), so they can actually decide if openSUSE fits their needs, and eventually decide to use it and take part to its life. Moreover, and from some discussion on IRC I think someone is missing this point, having a main goal for the project doesn't mean neglecting everything else. In my view providing a good core distributions for desktop usage, with easy installation, configuration and an acceptable level of stability can contribute to make "linux for everyone" more than trying to make everyone happy. If the base works (and is not made by a kernel alone :P), people will start to use it and to build on it. On this, we can actually learn something from a certain "nine letters" partner. ;-) I look forward to know more about the focus discussion _soon_ (and I promise gentle reminders if it will be forgotten or if it will be postponed to "after 11.2", because it would mean "not ready for 11.3" :-)) Best, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-marketing] [Weekly News] Minutes from the Team Meeting
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 18 Apr '09

18 Apr '09

Present: ======= dl9pf saigkill HeliosReds phocean naruoga slowhand kaza_ Topics: ====== Old Action Items: * Logo * OpenSUSE Community Week New Action Items: * ToDo Checklist for the 'now out' announcements * Status of ru, it, sv translatiors * Page with available languages per Issue vs. announcements with delayed Logo ====== We're submitted the first Image as Banner on the top of the Site. Community Week ============== We agreed to do an special Edition for 1/2 of the week and cover the other stuff in the normal Newsletter. The Team agreed, that we make an 1-day activity for the Community Week. Maybe * Creating a weekly News foe beginners * translating a weekly Newsletter. That Topic was moved to the -marketing List. ToDo Checklist ============ Satoru spends a new idea. He would like to become an Checklist with all Tasks in the Team. So Jan-Simon and Sascha created an Checklist under: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Checklist. This List includes the Tasks from the Editors Team and Translators Team Day by day. Status ru, it and sv ============== ru - unknown, need to Ping (AI Jan-Simon) it - busy with scool and easter (we need support here) sv - busy with work, no time. Translation List ============ A the Moment we have an announcemail with many delays. The Idea now is, that we create an List per issue with all Languages. The Site is splitted in Ready and not ready. If one language are finished, so the Translator can move up. As Proposal we can see the Site: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/68/Translations. The Site easier to manage, as the other Posts. The Team agreed the New Task. The full Transcript can be visited under: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Weekly_News/Meetings/20090418 -- Sincereley yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Marketing Team (Weekly News) openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org

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