2009/4/15 Martin Schlander :

Onsdag den 15. april 2009 17:15:43 skrev Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier:

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2009/4/15 Александр Мелентьев :

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 openSUSE: Powered by Lizards, Designed for Humans

Good one - any thoughts? Improvements?

One thought that comes to my mind whenever openSUSE marketing is discussed, is the total detachment of marketing from the actual product >:-)

Inserting a totally new topic into an existing discussion makes it very likely that otherwise cogent, thoughtful, and useful ideas will be ignored, so I'm starting a new mail thread here...

ZMD (10.1+10.2), KDE 4.0 pushing (11.0), and non-working kbluetooth, cd- burning, compiz, amarok2 etc. (11.1), constantly changing updater applets (every release from 10.0->11.1) and other major risktaking and blunders in recent years are not what I consider "designed for humans".

Sorry that you feel that way. I think that some people would agree that some features fell flat, but I'm going to suggest that if you want to have a productive discussion about this a slightly less confrontational tone (not to mention, starting the discussion in a relevant thread rather than hijacking another discussion) would help.

And if openSUSE is actually supposed to be productive, working, easy to use and gaining marketshare beyond geeks, then development decisions/priorities should reflect those goals.

No disagreement here. And I think that you'll find with 11.2 that some of the decisions we've already made (and will make) mean that openSUSE 11.2 will be better all around than previous releases. (Which is not to say those were poor releases...)

A while ago a discussion about distribution focus was being prepared, which filled me with hope that something would be done which really mattered, but nothing has happened so far... I'd like to see http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Distribution_Focus

Let me see what we can do on this topic... Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org