June 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] skipping partition module
by jdd 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Before I dig in YaST sources, does anybody know a simple way to skip the YaST partition module at install time. I mean, giving an already partitioned disk, install at first in a hard (compile time) given partition. it's this module that uses the most memory and block some memory disabled computers :-). autoyast uses always the hole disk, a solution could be to trigger autoyast to use a disk without erasing it :-) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SL 10.1 Floppy Drive mount not working
by Thorolf Godawa 13 Jul '06

13 Jul '06

Hi, I'm not able to get access to the floppy using SL 10.1 with Gnome. I get the following error: Operation Failed Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist. I tried it as normal user and root and I get the problem on two different systems and an online-update (what was not working as expected too) didn't solve the problem too. Thanks a lot, -- Chau y hasta luego, Thorolf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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Package Management Design and Experience
by Andreas Jaeger 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

As discussed last week, I wanted to continue the discussion about the package management changes - but not concentrating on the real bugs we're fixing now but on general issues: With SUSE Linux 10.1 we have redesigned the way we handle software. We are proud to be able to announce our new software management backend which is based on the so-called library "libzypp" and which also integrates Novell's ZENworks technology. Also we decided to follow the repomd standard (sometimes known as "YUM repository") for our new software repositories. In fact we are now able to manage more than packages only. We have integrated flavors like patches, patterns and even products all of which are defined and handled equivalently to packages. This new framework allows for new ways to define system dependencies and to build more complex application stacks also considering certain patch levels, patterns or even products to depend on. Also we were able to fix the well known issue where one could compromise a system installation by installing outdated packages after already having applied patches. Using the new technology the system is now able to detect these kinds of package-patch dependency violations. By integrating Novell's ZENworks technology we enriched our distribution by a new command line tool called 'rug' and a daemon called 'zmd' which are able to keep your system up-to-date. Also we invented a new easy-to-use patch management user interface which is called 'zen-updater'. These new tools are also able to tie into a ZENworks Linux Management infrastructure in order to allow for centralized remote management. As these changes are also impacting the user experience regarding package and patch management we'd very welcome to start a discussion thread whether and how we still can further improve the current toolchain. One question we have is how the new tools rug, zen-updater and zmd compare to what we had before with YaST Online Update and suseWatcher. We are interested in every feedback ranging from architecture, design or used standards and their enhancements. As this topic is not a very easy one I guess we'll need several iterations for this discussion. Therefore I'll try to summarize the first discussion outcomes on http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Design. After a couple of weeks we can then continue the discussion after everybody had the chance to work with - and love/hate - the new toolchain, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] control.xml info
by houghi 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

Is there any info availble on control.xml? I have found many references to the file, but not one explaining anythiong about the file. Changing the file sometimes can be obvious, like removing a module or changing a 'yes' into a 'no' or 'true' into 'false. Other things are less obvious what the alternatives might be: <ui_mode>simple</ui_mode> and there is no way of knowing if there are things that are not included in the file that could be. -- houghi Please to not toppost http://houghi.org My experience with SUSE You can have my keyboard ... if you can pry it from my dead, cold, stiff fingers --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Popup question when installing
by houghi 04 Jul '06

04 Jul '06

For some software (e.g. acroread or fortune) I am 'confonted' with a popup warning me about it. How is this achieved? I would like to add that info to the page I just made: http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_SUSE_based_distribution -- houghi Please to not toppost http://houghi.org My experience with SUSE You can have my keyboard ... if you can pry it from my dead, cold, stiff fingers --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Idea for SuSEfirewall2
by Lukas Ocilka 04 Jul '06

04 Jul '06

> Just a little idea I stumbled upon... > > How about having a directory that allows dropping in files as part of > packages (e.g. /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2.d/). > > Those files could include stuff like > - a detailed description of the ports that are relevant to the package > - parsable data for SuSEfirewall2, to be able to open (or close) ports > based on that information > ---8<-------------------------------------------- > <susefirewall2-service id="xmpp"> > <summary>XMPP/Jabber</summary> > <description> > Open these ports to allow communication with an > XMPP/Jabber server hosted in your network. > </description> > <ports> > <port proto="udp" port="5222" /> > <port-range proto="tcp" range="5222-5223"/> > </ports> > <susefirewall2-service> > ---8<-------------------------------------------- > (of course, it should be capable of being localized) > I'd like to have that too :-) It's nothing SuSEfirewall2 should deal > with though. The YaST firewall module can make use of that > information instead. Currently the information about ports is > hardcoded in /usr/share/YaST2/modules/SuSEFirewallServices.ycp Hi, I like the proposal, that's almost exactly what I wanted to do. Additionally, using an XML format for storing this kind of information is even better than I planned. The only thing, I doubt, is the translation of <summary/> and <description/> but there definitely must be a way to do that somehow. Also the /path/ for storing these XML files has to be consulted with some LSB guru to follow the LSB standards (if such rule exists). Well, having these services well-defined by packages themselves seems to be a good idea, on the other hand too many defined services might make the UI almost unusable :) Lukas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] YOU works only every second run
by Andreas Vetter 03 Jul '06

03 Jul '06

Hi, whenever there is a update, the first run of you does not show the update. I have to run you again a second time to see the updates. The updates are on NFS, rsynced from gwdg.de. Any ideas? Known behaviour? Bug? Regards, -- Andreas Vetter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Idea for SuSEfirewall2
by Pascal Bleser 30 Jun '06

30 Jun '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just a little idea I stumbled upon... How about having a directory that allows dropping in files as part of packages (e.g. /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2.d/). Those files could include stuff like - - a detailed description of the ports that are relevant to the package - - parsable data for SuSEfirewall2, to be able to open (or close) ports based on that information - ---8<-------------------------------------------- <susefirewall2-service id="xmpp"> <summary>XMPP/Jabber</summary> <description> Open these ports to allow communication with an XMPP/Jabber server hosted in your network. </description> <ports> <port proto="udp" port="5222" /> <port-range proto="tcp" range="5222-5223"/> </ports> <susefirewall2-service> - ---8<-------------------------------------------- (of course, it should be capable of being localized) Those ports could then show up in "Allowed Services" and "Masquerading". Currently, SuSEfirewall2 has a fixed set of "well-known" (not in a sense of /etc/services) ports it can put names on (HTTP, SSH, rsync). But those ports don't include a description, that could be really valuable for beginners. Also, SuSEfirewall2 doesn't provide names for other ports, that are not in that fixed set, e.g. for gnutella, jabber/xmpp, ... and you have to go through [Advanced...] A system like above could be useful, to include port definitions for SuSEfirewall2 as part of RPM packages (e.g. jabberd). Well, just an idea, off the top of my head. What do you guys think, would it be useful ? feasible ? Post/discuss on another list ? cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEpMeKr3NMWliFcXcRAuKDAJ9BLw5rhYnyuThfMVNaq9rus2Y5xwCgjp6I kVZmPXpltue+du3rGYGKnfA= =jqFo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-factory] Idea for SuSEfirewall2
by Robison, Jonathon (M.) 30 Jun '06

30 Jun '06

One thing I would add is that yast, when it writes the .xml files, should ALWAYS include a nice commented block at the top explaining the possible <x></x> entries so that if needed, one could hand edit the xml files using the information presented in the comments. Jonathon M. Robison Infrastructure Architect ET, ITI 313-323-9529 -----Original Message----- From: Richard Bos [mailto:radoeka@xs4all.nl] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:17 AM To: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Idea for SuSEfirewall2 Op vrijdag 30 juni 2006 08:41, schreef Pascal Bleser: > <summary>XMPP/Jabber</summary> > <description> > Open these ports to allow communication with an > XMPP/Jabber server hosted in your network. > </description> > <ports> > <port proto="udp" port="5222" /> > <port-range proto="tcp" range="5222-5223"/> > </ports> > <susefirewall2-service> > ---8<-------------------------------------------- > (of course, it should be capable of being localized) Perhaps with: <summary lang="XX_xx">XMPP/Jabber</summary> <description lang="XX_xx"> Open these ports to allow communication with an XMPP/Jabber server hosted in your network. </description> -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New makeSUSEdvd tool
by houghi 30 Jun '06

30 Jun '06

I have made an additional script to makeSUSEdvd http://houghi.org/script/makeSUSErsync What it does is rsync and then add those new RPMs to the ISO, removing the old ones. This means that you have the latest version available for software. At this moment I see only one problem. In "Installation Setting", you get an error with "Software", so you select that, then "Details". A popup with a warning comes up about 'kdebase3-SuSE-...." Select "do not install "kdebase3-SuSE" and then "OK -- ry again". Accept, and the installation works for the rest as normal. I am not sure wether this is due to the script or due to the packages itself (or a combination of both). Any insight will be welcome. I am also woring on something else. Somebody gave an idea (and some code) to use autorp¹m on a 'factory' system. That way you can make a DVD iso from any factory. Working on it now. Any insight on wether this would be a good.bad idea is as welcome as info on the kdebase3-SuSE issue. ¹http://www2.autorpm.org:8080/ Unfortunatly ity does not have a maintainer anymore. Any other idea on how to do this is welcome as well. -- houghi They say pesticides have been linked to low sperm counts. In my opinion if you have bugs down there that are so bad you need to use a pesticide, you're not gonna get laid anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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Suse 10.1 and ZENworks Linux Management compatibility
by Jan Steinkuehler (AC/EDD) 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

Hi, With the supplied ZMD tools I was unable to connect to a ZENworks 7 server: host1-eth0:~ # rug sa https://server Waking up ZMD...Done ERROR: Could not add 'https://server': No suitable service types could be found I suppose this happens because Suse 10.1 RC3 isn't listed in https://server/zenworks-registration/ostargets.xml (and not supported at all) As the ZMD tools are now part of the default install of Suse 10.1 I suppose it's planned to support 10.1 in later releases of Zenworks? Can anyone confirm this? -- Jan Steinkuehler Ericsson Research, Corporate Unit Ericsson GmbH, Eurolab EDD/XR/N Ericsson Allee 1 D-52134 Herzogenrath jan.steinkuehler(a)ericsson.com

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[opensuse-factory] drpmsync.opensuse.org:8888/Factory ?
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hello is this Server not more running ? Or have it change ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards / avec mes meilleures salutation, Günther J. Niederwimmer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] FSH: mysql & tftp
by Hans Witvliet 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

Just came across a message about mysql: <snip> Important: Don't forget to _backup_ your /var/lib/mysql directory before testing! <snip> The warning reminded me that by default, the mysql-data resided under /var/lib/mysql/ Which makes me wonder, according to the FSH, data belonging to servers/services should reside under /srv, just like www, ftp, tftp.... Some releases ago, apache default doc-root moved from /var/.. or /home/www to the place where it should be: /srv Why has this not been done yet for mysql and tftp? Hans. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [Bug 169636] eth devices renamed
by Hans Witvliet 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

Hi, Doing some more regression tests, I was looking at some "old" problems. What is the purpose of this feature? I mean why should the kernel decide to start renaming eth-devices in the first place? I mean, if you have three (pseudo) ethernet devices, all with UNIQUE-mac address, on what ground is the kernel doing such drastic action... Hans Apr 21 16:02:42 ldap1 kernel: eth0 renamed to eth9 Apr 21 16:02:42 ldap1 kernel: eth1 renamed to eth10 Apr 21 16:02:42 ldap1 kernel: eth2 renamed to eth11 -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] mysql changes -- need testers
by Michal Marek 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

Hi, I've updated the mysql package [1] and changed the init script a bit (it uses the new mysql_upgrade command now [2]). I would appreciate if you could test it, esp. the update case. Atm the init script is quite verbose, this will probably change before 10.2. I've created a mysql-5.0.22 package in the buildservice, building for factory, 10.1 and 10.0 [3]. See http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/michal-m:/mysql/ Important: Don't forget to _backup_ your /var/lib/mysql directory before testing! [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-commit/2006-Jun/0744.html [2] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysql-upgrade.html [3] You will have problems with mysql-shared on 10.0 as the library is not binary compatible. I suggest manually updating just the mysql (plus mysql-Max if you use it) and mysql-client packages on 10.0. Thanks in advance! Michal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Call for testing: upcoming smart 0.42
by Christoph Thiel 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

Hi everyone, as the development team of the smart package manager is getting ready to release smart 0.42 shortly, I would like to ask everyone who is using smart on SUSE Linux to help testing. Therefore I'v updated the smart package for SUSE Linux, which is available via the openSUSE Build Service for SUSE Linux 9.3, 10.0, 10.1, SLES9 and the current development tree (Factory) at http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cthiel1/ Feedback on this will be very much appreciated -- bugs should be filled either at http://bugzilla.novell.com/ or directly at http://www.smartpm.org/ Regards and TIA Christoph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Gericom W720-K7 WLAN PC Card
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

Hello, is this a known problem ? I have install on this Laptop the SL-10.1 with GNOME, YaSt2 found the WLAN Card is a WL1102 and installs the r8180 all is nice ;). When the Card found a Net and I connect to this, the system is halted ? Only I can do is , put of the Laptop :(. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards / avec mes meilleures salutation, Günther J. Niederwimmer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] You working style
by jdd 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

10.1 I tried to use YOU to install ordinary software. this works without problem. we have now the same menus in YOU than in software install (yast). _but_ * when installing, Yast/you always speaks about "patches" beeing installed in any message/help window, even when no patche are installed but software * it starts with the patches windows. I'm still unable to know if there are new updates only looking at the window. so I must clic on "accept" to know. but after installing all the patches, it closes when the software update module asks to know is one wans to install more, wich is often the case, so one must restart the module and wait again. * if one install a software by YOU, before having installed patches, the patches are not installed in the same session. Usually one can select software by any mean, at the end all the selection is installed. Here it seems that the patches selection and the software selection are separated. all this is minor and probably already known, the reason why I ask here. is this worths filling a bug report? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] smartmontools for cciss
by Hans Witvliet 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

Any one else using HP DL360 or Dl380 ? last week i found out that current (10.1) release had an version (5.33) of smartmontools, which works on dl320. but not on larger iron. I came across a patch : http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-cvs-commits/2006-May/msg00581.html It is intended for tool version 5.36 and deals with the cciss driver. For correct for me (x86_64), so i added a enhancement request #186013 Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 'Offline' update sources are not refreshed for ZYPP
by Jürgen Mell 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a strange problem here: I have several machines running SUSE 10.1 here so I am rsync-ing the patches from one of the mirror servers to a local directory on my server here. This local directory is set up as an installation source in YaST (type YUM) and 'Update' is set to 'ON'. Now, when fresh patches arrive, they wil not be recognized. Neither restarting the ZMD service nor using 'Refresh' from the software update applet nor rebooting the machines helps. Only if I remove the installation source in YAST and add it back again, the new patches are detected. The same happens, if there are new versions of non-patches available (eg. from Packman). Selecting the package and function 'Update' in YaST does not work, as it still shows only the old version available. Is this intended behaviour or should a file a bug report? All current patches for the packet management system are applied. Bye, Jürgen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEknIWtMrl3JEeRvwRAusgAKCSo1c+hGtkE8NGp4BVWlW3ThoK3ACg7wFl bhOV0oCOlONA8eXZ5oXlnhA= =X3CK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] zen-updater issues
by Marcel Hilzinger 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

I still have some problems with online update - updates are not displayed automatically. I have to choose refresh with right klick on zen-update - there still are dependency problems. I can only install updates, if I choose Types: Patch Anybody else having similar problems? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] what SL's version I have? ;-)
by Chema Ollés 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all: I update my SL from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse with smart,more or less 2 time a week. I see on my /etc/SuSE-release: SUSE Linux 10.1.1 (i586) Pre-Alpha1 VERSION = 10.1.1 I also download the new SL-10.1-alpha1 iso's via torrent and when,for example,search 1 package like MOzillaFirefox I see the same version (MozillaFirefox-1.5.0.4-2) on my sistem and on alpha1-cd2 iso !!! Please,I'd like any explanation about this change on SL versions... Thanks - -- Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.16.18-3-smp #1 SMP Wed May 31 06:52:41 UTC 2006 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEkpQS65SpD7GhbzoRAuwgAJ9WqvI0vDsJu9/5BPC7O33GFf5muACeM/FG 63Q+zqpYuHmNeeWBwZFe4dY= =+fUk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd and 10.2
by houghi 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

Another version, another problem. :-/ When I just make an iso with CD 1, I get the following problem: When I pick minimal text install at the Installation Settings at "Software" I get: Cannot solve dependencies automatically. Manual intervention is required (in red). * Minimum System (47.6 MB total) This does not happen if I just use the standard CD1. Only with a ISO made from CD1 made with makeSUSEdvd If I go to software and then details, I get an error for openssh-4.2p1-18.i586 that there is no libopensc.co I get the same issue when I select KDE or Gnome with a 1CD made with makeSUSEdvd. This did not happen with 10.1. There I could make an iso from CD1 and use that (to test, or to add things) It does not happen when I use a CD 1-3. So why does it happen with a CD1? -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 10.2 errors
by houghi 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

Before I file a bug, I want to know wether pther people have noticed it, or if it is due to the fact that I use Parallels (a VM program). 1) No border on the popup windows during the installation 2) When I use the 1 CD installation, minimal textmode, when it goes on to the formatting, I get the following error which prevents installation: Error Failure acured during the following action: Setting disk-label of disk /dev/hda to msdos system. Error code was: -1008 -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Xgl: a much better way to start compiz on KDE
by Silviu Marin-Caea 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux In the above page, the user is advised to create a compiz.desktop file in KDE Autostart. This is not optimal, because KDE's window manager kwin is started first, then replaced by compiz. On my machines this also created problems with other programs that are autostarted (have icons in KDE systray). It also has the disadvantage that a compiz.desktop needs to be created in each user's home. I propose a much better way: 1. create /usr/local/bin/compiz.sh with this content: /usr/bin/compiz gconf & /usr/bin/gnome-window-decorator & 2. make it executable: chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/compiz.sh 3. create /etc/profile.d/kdewm.sh with this content export KDEWM=/usr/local/bin/compiz.sh No need to make it executable. This will start compiz directly, not kwin. It's effective for all users of the computer. If that's not desirable, you can add the line with "export KDEWM" to the ~/.profile file instead of /etc/profile.d If nobody objects to this method, I'll edit the wiki page. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] yast2 errors out with libpy2Pkg.so.2: undefined symbol?
by James PEARSON 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Hello all Can anyone please help me out here. I did a fresh install over the week end. Then I used apt and smart to upgrade to the lastest packages. Now I can't run yast(2) anymore. Below is the error I get when I run yast2 and try and install mysql. # yast2 Command: /sbin/yast2 sw_single & /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/y2base: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/YaST2/plugin/libpy2Pkg.so.2: undefined symbol: _ZN4zypp13SourceManager7restoreENS_10filesystem8PathnameEb [0] y2pm > whatprovides libpy2Pkg.so.2 yast2-pkg-bindings-2.13.82-1.2 provides libpy2Pkg.so.2 Can anyone offer any possible solutions other than re installing ? TIA James --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] y2pmsh refresh hangs (is this a bug?)
by Azerion 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Sunny day everybody, Because rug/zen does still not work 100% (transaction allready in progress?) I use y2pmsh for packagemanagement (fast and stable). I have the problem that when a source is refreshed, y2pmsh does not continue anymore. Because a lot of people use y2pmsh it seems to me that it would be bugreported and fixed allready, but not it also happens on my new installation. Is this a bug or did I do something stupid (or both ;-) ? Azerion --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Malformed url Opera/Buildservice repos
by Azerion 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Goodday everybody, who are we gonna blame for the fact that Opera is gonna complain about malformed url when you are browsing in a Build-service generated repository? ( ftp://ftp.skynet.be/pub/software.opensuse.org/ ) As soon as you click in the directory KDE: it is gonna complain. Solutions are using another browser of typing it yourself. Who are we gonna blame for this? The Buildservice-team or Opera? Azerion --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory repository
by jdd 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

I know Factory is not really available right now, but in the way of translating this page I find: http://fr.opensuse.org/Factory_Distribution#Where_can_I_find_it_.3F with difference between YaST and YUM repositories. is this distinction still usefull? I was understanding the latter should be sufficient now? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] one package test
by jdd 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

The page http://en.opensuse.org/Factory asserts that its possible to use factory to test only one package. For me this seems extremely dangerous to do so on a stable main intallation, because I fear a dependecy chain could install from factory a lot of very new packages, breaking the stability of the hole machine. I'm right? In that respect, adding Factory as install source in a stable installation is _very_ risky thabnks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] round orange thingee
by Edward Dunagin 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

in my tray, that little round thingee turned orange. in putting my cursor on it is said i had 18 updates to download. i started it and found there was 18 updates, then it tells me it was resolving dependencies and then got a screen that says mishandled files or something like the, clicked ok and the screen disappeared and the round orange thingee in my tray disappeared. is this normal? running 10.1. -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan 4646 Glenwood Drive Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992

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[opensuse-factory] YOU userfriendliness - "YaST crashed" false reports
by Andreas Hanke 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

Hi, this is just a little bit of feedback or a notification about something you might already know, but maybe it's not clear enough: The new way YOU behaves is confusing and causes many, many false bug reports in user forums. YOU used to display to-be-installed patches only in the past. Now it displays all patches, even the already installed ones and the ones which don't apply at all: - To-be-installed patches have a black sign in the checkbox, already installed ones have a dark blue sign. Many users cannot distinguish them and report in user forums: "YaST crashed" if YOU exits without doing anything because all patches are already installed. - Patches which don't apply to a system, e.g. because the base packages are not installed at all, are visible in the patches selection. Many users do not understand this and report in user forums: "YaST does not select critical security patches for me". Then they select the patches, which results in MySQL, Postgresql etc. being installed on desktop systems. - Sometimes both things are even combined: A user selects all patches, even those that don't apply to his system at all, installs them, goes back to YOU, notices the dark blue signs, concludes that the patches are not installed and then repeats the procedure again, again and again - but YOU doesn't do anything because the patches are already installed. The resulting problem report is: "YaST does not install patches and crashes all the time". This is not a request to change things, I just want to make sure that you know what's going on out there. Together with the common impression that "package management doesn't work in 10.1", the result is that people make very fast conclusions and consider things as "not working" or "crashed" even if they are working just fine. Andreas Hanke --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory sync
by jdd 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

I'm rewrtiting http://en.opensuse.org/Factory that was evidently very outdated. For that purpose, I need an info. Factory is a frequently changing repo. what is approximately the frequency of it's updates, in term of _minimum_ time between two updates. is it possible to have two updates in the same hour? the same day? (the same week, certainly :-). This is to address the problem of using ftp install/update by the user in the middle of a server update. are the servers locked during sync? is it possible for an user to get one file (rpm) updated and not the other one (in case two files are updated) in the page the case where one dependency is not compiled (so not updated) is addressed, but not the case coming from "in the middle of sync" update case. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New package manager bug?
by Martin Schlander 11 Jun '06

11 Jun '06

I've installed the new official package manager updates, and subsequently wanted to play around with it a little to check up on it. It seems a lot nicer. And also the Danish localization is greatly improved. I was considering looking into joining the YaST-translation-team - but maybe now there's no need to :) I added some repos to YaST and everything worked fine with kde, kde-backports, guru. But with Packman I got the "synchronization with zmd failed" error. I then tried to add Packman to rug and got the following error. super64:/home/cb400f # rug sa --type=zypp http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/10.1 Packman Adding zypp service... 0% ERROR: Could not add 'http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/10.1': Failed to parse XML metadata: Unsigned file '/repodata/repomd.xml (http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/10.1)' Could this be a new bug having to do with the unsigned repo fixes? Martin / cb400f --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Important SUSE Linux 10.1 update
by jdd 11 Jun '06

11 Jun '06

opensuse-announce mailing list is probably broken, for the reply to is to the sender, not the list as are all the others opensuse lists, so I sent this to adrian (apologies) in fact it should be set to none (announce?) but so I didn't know where to send reports, I hope here is good the problem of being subscribed on all the lists, I don't even remember on what one was the thread on this subject Adrian Schröter wrote: > From today on we provide an important patch for the package management. It > contains various bug fixes and performance improvements for YaST and Zen > updater. > > We recommend to install this patch with YaST Online Update (YOU). For that > please start YaST manually through the menu and use the 'Online Update' > module. > > This version still lacks patch rpm support which will be delivered with an > upcoming update. > > We regret any inconvenience you experienced so far. We consider this update a > large step forward and will continue improving our product constantly. > Special thanks to our openSUSE community members and their efforts helping us > to deliver this update. > > Michael Loeffler > Adrian Schroeter > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-announce-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-announce-help(a)opensuse.org > > > Well... for me this update was a three step one. May be I begun too early after receiveing this post :-(. YOU, not patched, no change in the update menu, just "accept" I saved all the messages from the update windows (3 sessions) just in case you need then, too long for this list) The first update was mainly kde. I had a conflict #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2006-06-09 15:45:46 #### Impossible d'installer kdebase3-SuSE-10.1-58.3.i586[http://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse… car il est en conflit avec kdebase3 Un conflit sur kdebase3-SuSE == (kdebase3-SuSE <= 9.0) n�essite le retrait de kdebase3-SuSE-10.1-58.3.i586[http://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse… �installer. R�olution de conflit : ( ) ne pas installer kdebase3-SuSE ( ) supprimer kdebase3 (x) Ignorer ce conflit de kdebase3-SuSE #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### I solved as you see, not knowing at all what to do :-(. I will try soon to restart kde in hope it will stil works :-(. Then update completed, suseconfig... starting update again, then zmd/YOU stuff. On these two update sessions, I had three (3) signature check messages, two at the beginning of the session and one much later: This later one is still there after the last update: signature check failed for packman-iu-bremen.de/suse/10.1 (it come again because I didn't check the square box. but I as surprised to have one in place of 3 messages - so long so good) then a third update with some stuff. only one error message, a little faster, but still at the beginning an empty windows, like a freeze (but I had only to wait) Well, I'l restart kde to see if it works and report :-) (done, it works) On the two last sessions I had no message about kde. see you soon (I EXPECT :-) - it did :-) but do I need the patch? and why conflict? JDD -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SUSE 10.1 sources DVD
by Volker Kuhlmann 11 Jun '06

11 Jun '06

Will there be a DVD again with the sources corresponding to the packages in the boxed set (like there was for 10.0)? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Feedback on Package Management.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To start off I would like to thank SUSE/Novell for 10.1. I think the following information may be of interest. I have installed 10.1 over 10 times. I would like to report the results and share my opinion. 10.1 runs well on older hardware once installed and zmd is turned off and beagle is only run at time one is not on system. It is actually faster than 10.0. System details. 666 P III with 128 MB RAM (Old but very usable even with Open Office *) I have two of these machines that I was running UnixWare 7.1.4 with reliant HA. So the systems are pretty much identical. For the test I downloaded all inst-source and non-oss-inst-source and packman to a SUSE 10.0 machine and set up a private network with public Class C IP addresses see diagram below. Do only one system at a time so not to interfear with other system. |---------------| |-----------------------| | | | Upgrade | | SUSE | |-------| | | 10.0 | | | | | | | |-----------------------| | | | | | |----|-----| | |--| HUB | | | |-|--|-----| | | | | | | | | |-----------------------| | | | | | New Install | | | | |-------| | | | | | | |-------|-------| | |-----------------------| | | | | | | Other Computers/removed \ Connect/NoConnect \ Internet | - ----------------| 1. Upgrade of SUSE 10.0 to 10.1 48-56 hours. Finished while I finally went to sleep. 2. Fresh instalation of 10.1 4.5 hours to get all the same selections as in update, then 12.5 hours to complete installation. Comparisom with ZMD and without in KDE. 1, 10.0 1-3 minute to bring up installation source window. 2, 10.1 beta 3-4 1-3 minute to bring up installation source window. 3, 10.1 1.5-2.0 hours to bring up installation source window No ZMD. 4, 10.1 4.5-6.5 hours to bring up installation source window with ZMD. 5. 10.1 smart 3-10 minute (smart --shell) no ZMD 6. 10.1 smart 1.75-2 hours (smart --shell) with ZMD 7. 10.1 using smart to do uprade or update cache or packages 5+ minutes, I am able to work on other system via ssh, other windows limited responsiveness while smart is working. 8. 10.1 with ZMD Using YaST forget every thing leave system. Mouse will move at times, but not all the time nothing is possible. 9. 10.1 no ZMD 5-15 minutes to exit. 10. 10.1 smart upgrade 35 minutes 11. 10.1 after smart upgrade of 9jun06 patches 3.5 hours to exit. 12. 10.1 with ZMD 6.5-8.5 hours to save source window 13. 10.1 with ZMD patch installation 8+ hours 14. 10.1 after smart upgrade with ZMD running able to use other ssh window, but with hesitations. * zmd has been shutdown (/etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop) My 2 year old laptop 2.0GHz Celeron with 512 MB Memory 1. 10.0 update to 10.1 9 hours to update from the same souce above. 2. 10.1 with ZMD 1.5-2.5 hours to bringup installation source window. 3. 10.1 with ZMD 2.5-5.5 hours to save installation source. After Update 9 Jun 06 1. 10.1 with ZMD 15 minutes to brinupg installation source window. 2. 10.1 with ZMD 1.5-3.5 hours to save installation source window**. **Often error about ZMD and not able to sync sources. So I do see improvment. Thanks, - -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iD8DBQFEieUGVtBjDid73eYRAiB+AJ0bTuhvZqx75haN8IAMYw0KZSncuQCfbs+M 3JwkwEZi0039WU7Qsbce6m4= =03kD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] distribution of the zen path
by jdd 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

Hello :-) You have made a very good job and looks like the most important problem with zen an his companions are gone. I think really you should think of making a patch disk for the main branch. I understand you can't change what is on the cd/DVD. So you should make a patch iso cd. It will probably be very small (and so downloading it not a problem for anybody), and also easily copiable the goal is to allow anybody to keep the patch with the boxed set eventually, is it possible to have this patch permanently puched on top of all other patches to be downloaded jdd -- main repository sync for update fix http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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Problem with Sound and Suspend
by Marcel Hilzinger 08 Jun '06

08 Jun '06

Shuttle XPC, SB Audigy LS If I make a Suspend-to-* and Resume, I have no sound as user, only as root. After little work, I found out, that before Suspend permissions under /dev/snd are set to crw------ 1 marcel audio 116 After resume they are set to crw-rw--- 1 root audio 116 Driver issue? Powersave problem? Another problem is, that the output is alwasy set to the digital out. How to tell the system, to use the analog output per default? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99

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[opensuse-factory] usb oddities
by jdd 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

before filling a bug report, I ask to see if this is normal behavior. it's related to usb mass storage. I have the same thing with one usb key and one usb hard drive, so this may be general. say we start with no usb folder in /media. 10.1 stock (AFAIR) * you connect an usb mass storage, for example an usb key. _named_ mass storage (dunno if it's the same if not named), for example an usb key that got name from XP (vfat). *Kde give an advertisement window, I key "annuler" (cancel?). * The name is used by Hal to create a mount point. * Hal copy there a null size file named ".created-by-hal". * Hal mount the key there. the copied file don't show (it's on the host file system, not on the key). * you unplug the key. * the created directory keep resting there with a file in it. * if you plug again the key, it's mounted on the very same directory. Thats nice. But... it's not so smart :-) if, by old habbit you create the given directory before hand, or inadvertently delete the ".created-by-hal" file: _the main problem_ * next time you plug in the key, hal _don't use this directory_ (probably thinking it has an other goal) and create a new "name-1" directory. So far, so good... but the "service" in Konqueror don't know of this unusual naming. There you access still the key by "name" (not "name-1"), but read-only - I had a hard time understanding why I couldn't write there :-). The /media/name-1 directory works as expected (rw); But you have -a /media/name directory empty (nothing mounted on it) -a Konqueror service/name keeping saying the key is there, read only -a /media/name-1 directory with the actual key data _minor problem_ * suppose all goes well, you never create any usb directory yourself nor delete any file, you have several usb directories in /media, waiting for a key to be plugged. * you plug a key.. all is well. * you copy important data to this key and want to ensure the data is there before unplugging. So you go to Konqueror, services, key name, right clic and "enlever en toute sécurité" (remove securely?). the light of the key stops blinking, the key is unmounted... and _all_ the Hal directories desapear from /media... this is not really a problem, though, they will be recreated next time. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Software Updater
by Kenneth Schneider 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Would it be possible/feasible to change the messages presented in Software Updater to read "Getting update list..." while fetching the info then change to "Parsing medadata..." and finally "Incorporating medadata..." before is shows whether there are updates? This would at lease show that it is doing something. On slower hardware you cannot tell if it has hung or just simply taking an enormous amount of time. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] drpmsync hangs
by factory.22.anomalyst＠xoxy.net 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

It was running successfuly from a script, but now it prints "getting file list..." and sits there for hours if I let it. Eyeballing the switch activity indicates no traffic is flowing. Is anyone else seeing this? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Updated Software Management Test Repository
by Andreas Jaeger 04 Jun '06

04 Jun '06

We're currently pushing out an update to the package/patch management stack and I'm asking for additional testing. The previous repository did not show any new bugs but we fixed a couple of more bugs and made this time a repository with a real patch in it for testing. Please read the text below for instructions. For testing the update stack do the following steps as root: * start yast2 installation source via the yast2 control center or directly as "yast2 inst_source". Add as additional software catalog: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/aj/10.1-packagemanagement-update-test (or use one of the mirrors once they are updated) and then leave the module via "Finish". It will take some minutes to download data and setup the catalog. IMPORTANT: If you tested my old sources already, you need to download the metadata again (this is not needed afterwards anymore, it's one of the fixes in this new update). Skip this step and go to the next one: * start yast2 online update via the yast2 control center or directly as "yast2 online_update". The patch summary should show a couple of patches and select only the "libzypp update" (with a black mark). Press "Accept" to apply the update. It will take some time to download packages and install them. * You can now remove the software catalog you added in the first step. Use "yast2 inst_source" and delete the catalog. * Restart zmd with "rczmd restart". * Restart the zen-updater applet on your desktop (it will stop itself since zmd gets stopped during the update). * Everything is set now. You can now install further patches with: - the desktop applet zen-updater - the command line tool rug (via rug patches;rug in -t patch <patchname>) - yast2 online_update zen-updater will inform you about new patches. We will really soon release now this as official update and therefore need your testing. The only fix I'm waiting for is the following: Bug 180698 - zen-updater always shows patch dhcp (basically if a patch has been issued twice, it is always shown in zen-updater) IMPORTANT: Please report *all* bugs in bugzilla.novell.com and *always* CC hmuelle(a)novell.com (Harald Müller-Ney) on the bugreport and mention that you're using AJ's updated package stack from 2006-06-02. The update contains the following packages (basically the complete package stack): * autoyast2 * libzypp * libzypp-zmd-backend * ruby-zypp * rug * suseRegister * yast2 * yast2-installation * yast2-instserver * yast2-ncurses * yast2-online-update * yast2-packager * yast2-perl-bindings * yast2-pkg-bindings * yast2-qt * zen-updater * zmd The most important changes are: * Do not create anymore /.gnupg (the directory can be removed) (#171055) * Handle daemons launched in rpm %post that do not close filedescriptors (#174548) * Really get all package descriptions (#159109) * Support large files, e.g. DVDs as installation source (#173753) * Handle update source setup after installation (#172665) * Do not add duplicate update sources (#168740) * Fix yast2 instserver module so that it works with 10.1 (#171157) * Do not exit in online_update when only packages (and no patches) are selected for installation or deletion (#175668) * Improve syncronising sources between yast and zmd (#168740, 175174, 175159, 175173) * Fix segmentation fault with non-signed repositories (#173291) * Handle system proxy setting with zmd (#160830) * Fix zen-updater bugs when installing packages (#171171, 174740) * Update packages to follow ABI change in libzypp. * Optimize and fix downloading of type zypp * Fix refreshing repositories of type zypp (#154990) * Add support for key handling to zmd, rug, zen-updater (#173920) * Fix zen-updater to handle installation of patch and package together (#178015) * Option to disable missing signature complaints is not persistent (#175845) Thanks for testing and bug reporting, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] hello
by Harry ten Berge 03 Jun '06

03 Jun '06

Hi, Anybody here? Regards Harry --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Using LVM by default for new installations?
by Lenz Grimmer 03 Jun '06

03 Jun '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I noticed that Fedora seems to have switched to using Logical Volumes for installing on the hard disk since FC4. I personally am using LVM myself for a very long time and must say I am very fond of it. It provides much more flexibility than using plain partitions, especially when it comes to resizing or moving file systems or taking backups. I'd like to propose that SUSE Linux considers switching to this scheme for new installations by default, too - I now filed this as an enhancement request in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=180762 What do others think about that? Bye, LenZ - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer <lenz(a)grimmer.com> -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: LenZGr(a)jabber.org] /\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEfuaxSVDhKrJykfIRAqBHAJ4jgzPdUys0twki8wipgJusPNPPRwCggGDp yxrMT4gLKr/QsCOiYIFFhX8= =BW9y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] High Utilization with zen components
by Chad Groneman 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

Hello everyone, This has probably been addressed somewhere in a thread somewhere, but I can't see it. Anyway, I've noticed that whenever I do anything with the new software management tools (ZEN tools), my system's fans crank up. I check top and see that my utilization is in the high 90's or even 100. I don't know if it's a bug or not, but it bothers me a great deal. I don't like my system to have to crank up the fans to do something as simple as check to see if there are updates available, or install an RPM. I have a desktop, but I think laptop users would be screaming about this, as it's gonna kill their batteries a lot sooner. -Chad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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Bug handling
by Andras Mantia 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

Hi, Can someone from SUSE tell me how bug handling is done there? I mean, if there is a bug reported for some version and is not fixed in that version, is it taken in account for upcoming versions or it is just forgotten? An example: - a bug (like #176249 and previously #148638) is reported for 10.0 - it was closed with WONTFIX as the change cannot be made to a released product - the bug is still present in 10.1 (somebody reports again) - the bug is closed again as "it's too late and risky to do it" - the bug is still present and will be possibly present in 10.2 (unless it's "fixed" upstream) (The upcoming possible scenario is: - somebody reports "still present in 10.2" in a new bug - it get's closed as "too late now for 10.2, maybe 10.3) The problem I have is not the fact that is not fixed, but the fact that the bug report is closed even if it is present (and gets forgotten). In KDE we do the following: if a bug is reported for version X it is considered to be present in all versions > X unless somebody says otherwise, but in case of SUSE this doesn't seem to be the case. Please enlighten me. ;-) Andras -- Quanta Plus developer - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org K Desktop Environment - http://www.kde.org

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[opensuse-factory] packages in the future to be added or deleted
by houghi 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

I know that there will always be packages that can't make it. How does the team that decides what goes on and what not do this? e.g. does it only listen to customer feedback (e.g. bugzilla) or does it also look at how often certain packages are downloaded? I understand thatSUSE does not have control over all mirrors (or over any), yet I couild imagine that some mirrors could share the numbers of packages for this purpose. Not that they must. It would just be nice if they did so. If these numbers are known, it might be easier to determine what is needed and what not. Just curious. For me you made an almost excelent choice. -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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Update stack test build
by Graham Anderson 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

Morning folks, Would this list be the best place to post feedback regarding the test build of the update stack packages you posted yesterday Andreas? Or is it better moved to bugzilla...? If so I can move all this to bugzilla with logs etc. Here are my observations so far anyway. 1. The 10.1 release update stack successfully installed the test builds after I added the URL as a YUM service via zen-updater. However the whole upgrade took an extremely long time ( 15 minutes approx ). I was unable to determine why it was taking so long, i dont *think* it was the downloading... 2. Adding services via rug is just fine, and as per the 10.1 release builds ZYPP services are synced with YaST, YUM services are not. Adding services via zen-updater, same as rug, it works and the synching is the same. 2. Adding a larger service such as main online installation from mirror( inst-sources ) is much smoother. The service itself was added to the list in yast inst_sources almost instantaneously and unlilke the 10.1 release the catalog was not immediately downloaded but was only fetched when the finish button was pressed. At a rough guess I would say the whole process of adding the main installation source is 50% quicker now. 3. ZMD scheduling seems to be a bit broken now. It appears that the service refresh happens at the same time as the hourly maintenance, even though it is scheduled for the next day. Once the full service refresh and maintenance has run ( hourly by default it seems ) the schedule is reset with an updated time for the service refresh 24 hours later and 1 hour later for the maintenance. Of course the service refresh still happens one hour later and another new time i scheduled for it. This has the side effect of a full service refresh will run if my system is booted outside of the hourly maintenance window, parse-metadata and update-status hogging 100% CPU for a few minutes on boot. If i reboot my system inside the hourly maintenance window this does not happen.

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my XML project
by houghi 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

As some will remember, I had a talk about an xml project. I have decided to drop this due two two reasons. Partly because of my limited knowledge of XML. but mostly because of the great work and better solution that was given with download.suse.com and download.opensuse.org. I believe the solution as it is now is much better and will only improve an there is no need to re-invent a tool that already exists and is made people who actually know what they are doing (thanks for that) I will (probably today) test what 10.1 sources can be added and which ones still give problems from the external repo's from http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...

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