Missing Xen:
Maybe this is not the right place, but I really miss Xen on the
announced Features and Roadmap for openSUSE 10.2. The "Status of Xen3 on
SUSE Linux 10.0", which is the only and latest I still can see, is
http://en.opensuse.org/Xen3_Status_and_Updates
The last line in that table, "Other Operating System support on top of
Xen and VT not tested" is especially of interest to follow up now.
XenSource is also just releasing their XenEnterprise with support Linux
guest operating systems with Windows support following before the end of
2006 in alignment with the broad availability of Intel and AMD server
systems designed to support Xen. XenEnterprise is promises to make it
very easy for an organization to install, configure, manage and monitor
virtualized Windows and Linux operating systems running across multiple
physical servers.
What I really wish is that openSUSE 10.2 will offer some smaller "Xen
workstation" solution that with YaST tools can ease the installation,
configuration and administration of Xen and typical and actual i.e
Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP as additional guest operating systems on
Intel-VT and AMD-V workstations.
If this features is possible to include, I think it will further power
openSUSE 10.2 ?
Regards,
Terje J. Hanssen
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Another Novell project Banshee, the iTunes-like audio player and media
device synchroniser, has recently released version 0.11.
http://www.banshee-project.org/Releases/0.11.0
This release has substantial improvements over the 0.10.x version, my
favourite, which is podcasting support through an improved official
plugin, which I have been using in the CVS version.
I have two questions:
1. Will it be in openSUSE 10.2?
2. Are there rpms for SUSE somwhere? I am surprised that a Novell
sponsored project doesn't have Suse RPMS as part of it's download. The
openSUSE buildservice needs some internal marketing perhaps...
Pflodo
Peter Flodin
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The periodic ext3 fs checks at boot are driving me nuts. I know they can be
disabled.
Couldn't they be performed at shutdown instead of boot?
Whenever someone starts the computer it means 100% they need it right then.
Having ext3 perform fs checking on a 300 GB full drive is nothing that any
user will tolerate easily.
OTOH whenever someone shuts down the computer, there's a 95% chance that it
doesn't need it right then anymore (it's not a reboot).
However, there is a small problem with my suggestion. There is a chance that
the fs check at shutdown finds an error that needs user intervention. In
that case I think there must be a way to mark the volume dirty and go forward
with the shutdown. Then at boot do again a fs check and let the user decide.
These would be the steps, from boot:
0. boot
1. is fs dirty? then fsck and prompt user how to fix errors
2. run OS
3. at shutdown: should the fs be checked (verify mount count or period) if yes
then fsck with "automatic fix" option. Did the fsck find errors that cannot
be fixed automatically? If yes mark fs dirty. Shutdown.
This way, the user would never have to wait at boot, and the filesystem would
still be checked periodically.
What do you think?
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hi,
just upgraded to 10.2 Beta1 on my notebook
and it seems to work OK till now
because it is a notebook
i was always fighting with the touchpad
till i read about KSynaptics
are there any plans to integrate
KSynaptics
http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net
into 10.2
or is there a equivalent Tool for configuring the Touchpad?
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Presently discussion is on-going in bugzilla about the architecture of package
management, mostly wrt. 10.2. I think that we should clarify longer term
goals. Which imho must be to not have zmd installed by default on openSUSE,
as it causes problems and unnecessary complexity without adding functionality
that the openSUSE users need. I'm curious if official people agree with this?
With zypper (cli) and opensuse-updater (updater applet) it is within grasp to
not have zmd+friends on KDE installations. It's more problematic for GNOME as
removing zmd would mean no updater applet would be available for them. But
this should be fixable for 10.3.
Nat Budin did this image to illustrate package management on 10.1:
http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Package-management-in-code10.png
I've done a quick mock-up of how it could look in the future for comparison -
maybe already in 10.2 for KDE users:
http://suse.linuxin.dk/pm102.png
Whether or not this architecture is feasible for 10.2, depends on the
stability of zypper and opensuse-updater. Therefore I recommend to test it a
lot.
To be able to test it thouroughly we need updates though. One of the lessons
learned from the 10.1 debacle was that a lot of the problems didn't become
apparent until we had multiple repositories and update repos to test with.
This repo exists:
http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/suse/suse/update/10.1.42/
But there are no packages there. Would it be possible to provide some sort of
dummy updates?
Also some repos exist for Factory on the buildservice with newer packages than
the ones in factory. Which is useful for testing the package management in
more of a real life scenario.
Note that at the present zypper is missing from factory, but I assume that'll
be remedied soon.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216585
At the very least 10.2 users should be able to remove zmd+friends and still
have cli (zypper) and an updater applet (KDE users only), which in it self is
one of many improvements in 10.2 over 10.1.
Martin
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This is a short specification of requirements for a consistent repository.
(1) All requirements of binary packages must be provided by a binary
package.
(2) All build-requirements of source packages must be provided by a
binary package.
(3) The SOURCERPM tag of every binary package must exactly match an
existing source package.
(4) All packages which are provided for more than one architecture
should be provided with the same version and release numbers on all
architectures.
(5) No package may obsolete another package that still exists in the
distribution. Only packages which are no longer part of the distribution
may be obsoleted.
(6) No file in the distribution may be provided by more than one package
unless all its providers are marked as conflicting.
(7) No package may replace something that existed as a directory in at
least the direct predecessor of the currently prepared distribution with
a file or a symlink or vice versa unless the rpm breakage caused by this
is worked around with %pre scriptlets or similar.
(8) Packages that provide the same thing can indicate bugs, and fool the
package manager into installing the wrong package. There are cases where
providing the same thing in multiple packages makes sense (example:
alternative backends for multimedia players), but the tree should be
investigated for cases where this does not make any sense and can be
dangerous (example: private copies of libraries which also exist as a
public library).
(1), (2), (3) and (4) can probably only be verified shortly before the
release. Or, checking this now would not make much sense as long as the
tree is still in flux.
(5), (6), (7) and (8), however, are things that can be tested at any
time. The Beta period which will start very soon is very well suited to
squeeze all such issues out.
Ideally, as much of this as possible would be automated, and done in a
similar way as a typical testsuite for software packages. I think that
(5) and (6) can be completely automated, while (7) and (8) can be
identified automatically, but would still need to be looked at manually
for evaluation.
Opinions?
Andreas Hanke
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Hi everybody,
I have upgraded to Beta 1 of openSUSE 10.2 last week.
Since then, I feel Firefox (which also got upgraded to 2.0 now) much
slower than 1.5 was before.
For example, when entering an URL then hitting <enter>, for a while
nothing happens (not even the status bar changes from stopped or
something).
In general, I would say the surfing experiance got much worse.
I also have FF on my win installation in the office and wouldn't say it
degraded somehow. (or not as much experianced).
Does anybody else have this experiance with FF2?
Dominique
Hi,
I just updated my 10.1 system to 10.2 Beta1 to finally test the
upcoming SUSE and in hope to find bugs and make the final release as
good as possible. ;-)
I used a way for upgrade that is for sure not well tested, namely
System Update from YaST with the downloaded CD ISO images that were not
copied to the hard disk, but were sitting on a DVD. This is all due to
lack of disk space (but I ordered a new HDD today :-)). Good enough,
the installation went quite OK,
aside of two issues, one because of my system (not enough hard disk
space, so some packages were not upgraded, altough I'm sure that the
space would be enough if I would uses --force for rpm), the other one
was a more serious problem:
2006-10-30 20:46:56 <5> stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
RpmDb.cc(doInstallPackage):2002 THROW:
RpmDb.cc(doInstallPackage):2002: Subprocess faile
d. Error: RPM failed: Updating etc/sysconfig/displaymanager...
2006-10-30 20:46:56 <5> stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
2006-10-30 20:46:56 <5> stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94 ERROR:
SuSEconfig or requested SuSEconfig module not present!
2006-10-30 20:46:56 <5> stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
2006-10-30 20:46:56 <5> stein(5536) [base] Exception.cc(log):94
error: %postun(xgl-cvs_060522-0.13.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit
status 1
Does it worth a bug report or is it known?
So far so good, I rebooted, modified the fstab due to the fact that the
IDE port on Promise chip is still not supported (reported since 10.0,
waiting for the patch to hit the upstream kernel). After the second
reboot, everything looked fine until I started to write this mail. The
KMail composer here is completely broken, and I know it's not a KMail
bug as I used a self compiled SVN version from 3.5.5 branch even before
on 10.1. The problems are:
1) text because invisible in the Subject line after the first space
2) spaces are not shown and cursor jumps erratic from one place to
another, making input impossible. I found that I had set Microsoft Sans
Serif as the composer font and switching to another one (even other MS
fonts) is fine. Did something went wrong with font cache generation?
I can file a report for this as well, but I'm not sure it is a general
problem.
Congratulation for now, and I'm going out to hunt for the -devel
packages not on the 5 CDs... ;-)
Andras
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xgl-cvs is present both on the DVD and in factory, depends on the
missing xgl-hardware-list. Should I file a bug?
Regards
Sid.
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