January 2013 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-factory] repository priorities with Tumbleweed
by Thomas Langkamp 16 Jul '15

16 Jul '15

> No, please don't confuse people, if you add more repos than just > Tumbleweed you really had better know what you are doing or bad things > can, and will, happen :) I understand. I just would like to add the following to http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed - between ## is the new stuff: "The only supported method of repo use for Tumbleweed is to have only the main repos (Oss, Non-oss, and Update) and the Tumbleweed repo active. ## If you use more repositorys you have to know how repo-priorities work, but even then Tumblweed does NOT support this ## " It would also be good to move this information to "Special concerns" and to move the whole "Special concerns"-section up. For example "Special Concerns Virtual Machines ... Third Party Drivers ... ## Non-Standard Repos: Only use Oss, Non-oss, and Update combined with the Tumbleweed-Standard repo. Everything else is not supported and might break the system ## " >You do know the legal reasons behind why packman is there, right? Yes. Then I do not whish you personaly to support Packman with TW - I understand now that this is not possible from your perspectivg. But...as the OS community discusses right now if/how to strengthen Tumbleweed... one way would be, that Packman+TW would be supported BY Packman. So I will ask the Packman-guys to do that... I hope this is possible for them. Without Packman Tumbleweed is so ... "anti-multimedia" ;) thanks anyway :D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Export broken for KinfoCenter
by Roger Luedecke 30 Jan '15

30 Jan '15

Export button is greyed out no matter what. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] YaST2 "install/remove" doesn't display solver diagram
by Kyrill Detinov 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Hello. There is a regression in YaST2 *Qt* "install/remove software" module. It doesn't show solver diagram. First, no dependencies on libqdialogsolver. Second, installed libqdialogsolver doesn't help. Reported ages ago. And confirmed. All the info is provided. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785431 WBR Kyrill

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Nothing provides /usr/bin/php5
by Sascha Peilicke 11 Jan '14

11 Jan '14

On 12/01/2011 11:44 AM, Kyrill Detinov wrote: > > Hello. > > We have one package affected in standard repo: leechcraft-eiskaltdcpp. > The program itself doesn't require php5. But the package includes > example scripts with shebang '!/usr/bin/php5'. So the package isn't > installable. > > Also I see the same problem with pgfouine from Contrib (written in > PHP) and eiskaltdcpp from filesharing repo. Maybe more in third-party > repositories. > > Can we have symlink /usr/bin/php -> php5 in php5 package? Or affected > packages should be fixed? > Please file a bug against php5 and assign to Cristian Rodríguez. -- Viele Grüße, Sascha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: What is the purpose of the systemd journal service?
by Linda Walsh 14 May '13

14 May '13

Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > El 15/09/12 11:49, Per Jessen escribió: > >> I do want to log, but I've looked at the journal already and didn't see >> anything that wasn't already in /var/log/messages, /var/log/mail etc. >> Seems like a duplication of effort and a waste of space in >> /var/log/journal. (which afaict can just be deleted). > > It is significantly more powerful than traditional logging: > > For example > > journalctl /usr/bin/foo --> get messages from program foo > > journalctl /dev/sda --> hard-drive problems ? > > journalctl -p error --> only errors > --- I assume the full power of linux's text utilities can be used on them - like grep, sort, awk, perl... vim... Having logs recorded in a non-text binary format tends to make MS logs out-a-sight, out-a-mind, where as I often go and poke around in /var/log and look to see if I notice anything 'new'. If I can't look at the whole stream as a text (messages, warnings, etc), I don't get a field for what is right or wrong behavior and certainly wouldn't be able to pick out an anomaly if I had to query each item separately -- that global view is a good way to look for 'warts'... MS makes it much to painful to do hat -- 1 error / page, everything in 300 separate queries ... ug! > Currently it is not a full replacement for syslog but I suggest you to > check it out. > I tend to use ngsyslog for the filtering benefits. -- really has some powerful filtering in the 2.x line -- had to label ng3x taboo, so it won't overwrite a working config with a non working config... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] rpmlint: warn if -ansi is used to build packages
by Cristian Rodríguez 19 Mar '13

19 Mar '13

Hi: Will be cool if rpmlint could warn when upstream packages attempt to use the -ansi gcc option because it inhibits usage of gcc builtin functions while optimizing (list here --> http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Other-Builtins.html#Other-Builtins) most recently it caught my attention that it also disables the new "optimize-strlen" pass in gcc 4.7, in particular this: "for hosted compilations where stpcpy is available in the runtime and headers provide its prototype, e.g. void foo (char *a, const char *b, const char *c, const char *d) { strcpy (a, b); strcat (a, c); strcat (a, d); } can be optimized into: void foo (char *a, const char *b, const char *c, const char *d) { strcpy (stpcpy (stpcpy (a, b), c), d); } " when -ansi is used and (defined(_GNU_SOURCE) || (_XOPEN_SOURCE >= 700 || _POSIX_C_SOURCE >= 200809L)) is false, there is no stpcpy prototype and hence no optimization. Thoughts ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed: NV34 card scrmables colors after update
by Achim Gratz 17 Mar '13

17 Mar '13

I have an old computer with an FX5200 AGP card. I've tried to update it this weekend to the latest Tumbleweed and the colors in X are all scrambled. Only the colors are wrong and it looks like the order of the bits is reversed or something: the tinier the expected color variation, the more drastic the actual result. I can't find any parameter that seems to influence that and searching the bugbase has also come up empty. Does somebody has an idea of what to try? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Fontconfig fonts priority
by Lars Müller 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 12:22:50PM +0100, Mariusz Fik wrote: > Dnia środa, 1 lutego 2012 01:03:13 Sven Burmeister pisze: > > Am Dienstag, 31. Januar 2012, 22:43:11 schrieb Mariusz Fik: > > > > > > current fontconfig configuration[1] sets the highest priority for > > > Microsoft font. If user install them (i.e. Times New Roman, Arial, > > > Consolas) they will be set as _default_ for respectively families > > > (sans-serif, sans, monospace). Why do we promote Microsoft fonts > > > instead support open fonts, shipped with system? > > > > > > I propose[2] to downgrade those fonts. Thanks to this, we keep our > > > default font settings but those MS fonts will be still available for > > > use. > > > > > > Whats Your point of view in this case? > > > > Are you sure that the free fonts have the same quality – even if > > anti-aliasing is disabled? I remember ugly characters with free fonts > > unless I would use bitmap fonts and that's a no-go IMHO. My suggestion is: > > Set the best quality fonts as default. Those that do not want to use MS > > fonts simply do not install them. There was a reason to prefer those fonts > > and AFAIR it was quality or lack thereof regarding the free fonts. > > The goal is: to not set those fonts as _default_ and not to get them rid off . > Why Joe when install i.e. Consolas font should get it set as default monospace > font? Maybe he want's only to use it in a single program? Please continue this thread at opensuse-factory as it was already suggested as part of this thread. Therefore the Reply-To got set. The begin of this thread was here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-01/msg02101.html Why? Cause it's more likely that you'll get the required attention. Thanks, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

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[opensuse-factory] syslog-ng 3.4?
by Peter Czanik 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

Hello, I just read, that openSUSE 12.3 is already feature freeze now... syslog-ng just released 3.4 RC1 now and we expect a final release in the coming weeks. The beta was running stable on my machines for weeks. It's a leaf package, not installed by default. I wonder, if I could still update syslog-ng from 3.3 in Base:System and in Factory to 3.4RC1 and later on to 3.4.1 once released. Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] How to use multiple versions of same library on 1 system?
by Linda Walsh 05 Feb '13

05 Feb '13

Unix has it, Linux has it, Windows has it -- the ability to have multiple versions of libraries (like GLIBC) on a system with the ability to run programs from multiple MAJOR OS releases, on the same system. So why aren't we building our apps and libs to work that way in OpenSuse? Starting with the 12.X series, it seems the problem has gotten significantly worse. Binaries from each of the 12.x versions are often mutually incompatible -- most often because each version has been hard-coded to accept only 1 version of GLIBC. GLIBC isn't supposed to be changing it's interface so radically that each app needs to be hard coded to only work with 1 version. In versions prior to 12.x, requirements were put on the rpm's to make sure the unique version of Glibc an app wanted was 'installed'. That wasn't hard to work around, as one could install the markers in the rpm-database and glibc linked apps would run fine with the newest version of libc installed. Currently we have version 6 of the libc library libc.so.6. All of the 12.x series is linked to this file, BUT all have specified exact internal versions of each compatible version of libc.so.6 : GLIBC_2.14, GLIBC_2.15, GLIBC_2.16? Why are apps specifying internal symbols to link against? linux has a facility for linking to specific versions of libc.so.6: libc.so.6.2.14 can live with libc.so.6.2.15 and libc.so.6.2.16. All can be installed , if *NECESSARY* (which, in my experience usually isn't necessary until 'libc.so.7' comes out), and apps provably have a need for a specific minor version, can specify which minor version by filename. So why are we hardcoding specific libc.so.6 revisions into the binaries? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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