June 2009 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] splashy vs bootsplash
by Jakub Steiner 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

I'd like to ask if there are any plans to drop bootsplash for 11.2 as the bootsplash.org site itself recommends moving over to splashy. thanks -- Jakub Steiner <jimmac(a)gmail.com> http://jimmac.musichall.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] new Firefox feature (call for help)
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 10 Jul '09

10 Jul '09

Hi, recently there was a feature request on the opensuse list (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2009-06/msg00297.html) about the fact that openSUSE's Firefox doesn't offer the packaged plugins in its plugin finder service. So I looked into it what would be needed to support that feature in our Firefox and created https://features.opensuse.org/306475 out of it. I'm copying my last comment here for completeness: ---------- A short overview what's needed to make this feature as complete as possible: 1. client support in Firefox to ask a webservice for available plugins and hook into the package installer to install the chosen plugin 2. a webservice which provides the required data to Firefox 3. a job which fills the webservice's database with available plugins The code for 1. and 2. is done in the Firefox extension "susefox" now. It's already pretty complete and usable (only some minor issues left and translations missing). For 2. a hosting platform is needed where I'm not sure if it should be opensuse.org or opensuse-community.org as we could refer to more plugins for the latter probably. For 3. nothing is really available yet. The reason is that our package metadata is missing information we would need to detect mozilla plugins. For the current implementation the database is created manually but I consider this pretty much impossible for a production service. ---------- So actually to finish this feature (if it's seen to be useful, otherwise please tell me so I stop investing time into it) I would need some help - to get the Firefox UI translations in place for as much locales as possible (it's really not much to translate right now) - to find a hosting area (currently it's running on my personal server) (to be able to offer problematic plugins it could make sense to use opensuse-community.org?) (it's a python script running through mod_python) - to get ideas how to solve 3. - if 3. is hard to solve or takes time we can consider to fill the database manually to get started but that would need some help to collect the needed information So that's basically about that feature but if you got any feature requests for Firefox about its openSUSE integration please read on: As there is now an openSUSE specific addon we can add more distribution specific things to it. In theory a lot of stuff can be done with the extension to customize Firefox a bit more to fit openSUSE but there are two issues: 1. ideas what would be useful 2. people doing the implementation So if you got any ideas or have some experience in writing Firefox extensions (or want to learn it) please tell me! Thanks, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] new Firefox feature (call for help)
by Pavol Rusnak 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: > Currently that is not possible with our repos because there are two > things I think: we would need to add the metadata (probably using > defined Provides keywords would do) _and_ we would need a special repo > parser which could read from defined repos but both could be solved at > some point. > > So to sum up again. I'm quite undecided what the right thing is. Ah, I see. I didn't know about the ubuntu plugin. We should probably keep this plugins as similar as possible. Package flash-player already has Provides symbol for mimetype: $ rpm -q flash-player --provides netscape-plugins libflashplayer.so mimetype(application/x-shockwave-flash) flash-player = 10.0.22.87-0.1.1 But that's not true for java or moonlight packages. We can add also other Provide symbol, for example plugin({ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384},libflashplayer.so) If we go through the packages and and these two symbols to them, then we could build a database you need from the repository data. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] xulrunner...
by Oddball 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Hi, Still impossible to use firefox due to: #### YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2009-06-28 16:41:33 #### niets levert mozilla-xulrunner191 = 1.9.1b99 nodig door MozillaFirefox-3.5b99-1.2.x86_64 (nothing supplies) (needed by) [ ] MozillaFirefox-3.5b99-1.2.x86_64 niet installeren niets levert mozilla-xulrunner191 = 1.9.1b99 nodig door MozillaFirefox-3.5b99-1.2.x86_64 (nothing supplies) (needed by) [ ] MozillaFirefox-translations-3.5b99-1.2.x86_64 niet installeren #### YaST2 conflicts list END ### and this message: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1:~> firefox Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.1b4 and 1.9.1b4. oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1:~> in milestone 2.... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.30-8-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.90 (KDE 4.2.90 (KDE 4.3 Beta2)) "release 1" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-factory] Re: updated of packages with usermod / groupmod calls 'hang'
by Dominique Leuenberger 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Hi, ----- Original Message ----- >> Anybody seen something similiar? Some bug already hinting at this problem? (I >would file it against base >> system otherwise, as manually starting >> groupmod also does not work). >> > >Same here. I updated from 11.1 to factory a few days ago and saw the same. I >captured a "ps -axf" output during "zypper dup". The whole process hanged three >times: I was stracing it a little. The issue seems to come from nscd (name server caching daemon). Even on manual, when issuing useradd test this is going to hang. shutting down nscd (rcnscd stop) and then adding a user works fine. (note: the user actually IS added to /etc/passwd, even with nscd running). I'll check bugzilla for a similiar issue and if nothing found, I'll register one. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] status coolo
by Stephan Kulow 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

Hi, I'm out of office for about two weeks starting today. I tried to finish M3 today, so we can enable as-needed afterwards. This is still work in progress, but Adrian will pick this up from LinuxTag, I hope it all works out ;( M3 will be rough in any case due to the many build failures in the last weeks I had little time to do actual distribution testing, but the live cds worked and the DVD install had only a minor flaw (the bootloader config claims it failed but then it booted fine). Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Plans and Issues for ATI fglrx Driver for 11.2?
by David C. Rankin 04 Jul '09

04 Jul '09

Listmates, There are 2 issues that need to be addressed regarding the fglrx driver and the upcoming 11.2 release. Currently in 11.1, there are many laptop cards supposedly "supported" by the ATI driver that crash or hardlock when the driver is installed. Currently my X1200 is one, the 200 is another from the list (I'm not sure what the technical card architecture is for the "200"). Suffice it to say, this is a significant problem for all affected users. The issues that need to be addressed pre-11.2 are: (1) Performance issues and crashes caused by the ATI driver. Recent driver problems: The 9-2 driver release caused my Toshiba 205d laptop to reboot on xdm start and the 9-3 driver caused my laptop to hardlock if glxgears was started. All fglrx drivers 8-10 through 8-12 had performance of less than 60% of the 8-9 driver. Compounding the problem is the fact that nothing prior to the 8-12 driver will even compile or run on 11.1 or later (presuming 11.2 as well) Thankfully, there are some cards that seem to do OK with the recent 9-3 driver on 11.1, but it is hit or miss ...and... the fact that it works on "some" does nothing to address and help the users where it "does not" work. Before the 11.2 release, Novell needs to get a handle on what cards will and will not run with the ATI driver and at least incorporate a warning or release note for those with affected hardware. (2) Confirm - ATI driver support will be dropped for all R300-R500 ATI cards post 9-3 driver release (per phoronix.com ATI forum). This is another *biggie* Novell needs to get its arms around, to again, either incorporate into the installer a way to not install the driver on non-supported hardware or identify and warn about the lack of support for all R300-R500 cards. That means no (nada) fglrx driver support for the R300-R500 series cards which include the: 9500, 9600, 9700, 9800, X300, X550, X600, X700, X800, X850 AllInWonder, and X1050 cards affecting all laptops bought before Q3 2005 (or January 2007 in the case of the X1050). All of which are still *very* prevalent in the group of laptops that make up the installed user base today and will continue to do so through 11.2 release. This issue of dropping support is separate and apart from issue (1) above because the group of cards in (1) are supposedly still supported. Other Thoughts: After Stefan Dirsch handed over the reins of driver maintainer to Bob Walmsley <bob(a)walmsley.com.au> I guess he is now the guy that this should be coordinated through. I am glad to try and help, and to run test cases, etc. since I drew the black bean in laptop selection so let me know if/when there are new cases to test. I follow the ATI driver releases and test each one so I have a good handle on where things stand today. The problem is that Novell needs to use its resources to get a working partner in ATI to address some of these issues. Luugi Marsan <atilinuxnovellbugs(a)ati.com> was in the past the ATI contact, but at present, I haven't a clue who the ATI contact is or even if there is one. Without a good contact, we are dead-in-the-water getting any of these issues addressed and we are guaranteed a significant number of stranded users if these issues are not addressed. Right now the 8-9 driver works fine for 10.3 and 11.0, but unfortunately it is incompatible with 11.1. The ATI issues prevent me, and all others affected, from being able to move to 11.1. Hopefully, if Novell will start now to address some of these driver issues with ATI, then by 11.2 release they have a good chance of ironed out. With a desktop, you can always rip the ATI card out and replace it. With a laptop ... you are kind-of stuck. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Starting xterm directory
by Patrick Shanahan 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

xterm opens in ~/Documents but I do not know why. I haven't purposefully made that *specific* configuration. konsole opens in ~/ Documents pathname does not exist in /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc.local or ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile ??? It is somewhat agrivating and *is* easily correctible but that shouldn't be necessary.... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Dual display does not work in milestone 3
by Jogchum Reitsma 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Hi, I installed milestone 3 yesterday on a system with two displays. During installation, both displays showed the same screen - which is as one would expect. But when, at the end of the installation cyclus, the system boots up, I get a 'no signal' on both displays when entering runlevel 5. Rebooting does not help. I can go to console 1, which gives me 1 display. OpenSuse 11.1 handles dual display OK. System is MSI Master 2FAR, two dualcore Opterons, 2GB memory. NVidia GForce 6200. Displays are Iiyama Vision Master Pro 450 and --- 512. Bug, or not yet implemented in this milestone, ore somthing else? regards, Jogchum Reitsma -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] KDE4 without pulseaudio
by Mariusz Fik 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Pulse audio is default backend for phonon, while xine works better with KDE. Is there any chance to make xine as default phonon backend for KDE4 desktop? -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik, openSUSE Community Member

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