June 2009 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-marketing] The way of ambassador
by Martin Schlander 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Tirsdag den 2. juni 2009 17:58:15 skrev Marcus Moeller: > > Personally I think openSUSE could blow Fedora and Ubuntu out of the water > > in this particular niche market (home servers and "self-supported" > > servers in the enterprise) if only we tried. > > openSUSE is not really accepted in enterprise as there is only a two > year support lifecycle (this has nothing to do with the availability > of a 'Server CD'). > > An option would be to fork to something like openSLE or to set up > legacy repositories for some dedicated openSUSE versions (the ones > with common SLE codebase). Do you know that Fedora is only supported for about 13 months? Lots of people install Ubuntu non-lts (18 month support) server edition too. Of course I'm not talking about mission critical stuff in major corporations - they would need full support and certification and all that. But lots of small to medium sized businesses install stuff such as Fedora, Ubuntu non-lts - or even Gentoo or Slackware. Probably many larger businesses have a few boxes hiding in some corners with similar systems too. Just as an example Wikipedia recently switched from Fedora to Ubuntu. I've seen Danish hosting companies running Fedora too. Recently a guy asked about Fedora 9 on our mailinglist - they had set it up at his work place to be used as an NFS server. They had chosen F9 over F10, because apparently one of the guys there was somewhat familiar with F9 - they didn't give a rat's ass that F9 will be EOL in 2-3 months - or maybe they didn't even know. Long story short, there's a substantial "market" of gratis, self supported GNU/Linux servers. And openSUSE is not getting its "rightful" share. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-marketing] The way of ambassador
by Martin Schlander 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Tirsdag den 2. juni 2009 18:12:54 skrev James Mason: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Martin Schlander > > The magic solution to the problem - as proven by Ubuntu - is to provide a > > dedicated server cd, hence I filed this openfate some time ago. > > https://features.opensuse.org/305664 > > I don't agree - the disc fragmentation of Ubuntu is one of my biggest > frustrations with it. > > Personally, I've been taking advantage of the marketing for years - > openSUSE is a *chameleon*, and the DVD reflects that. Need a LAMP > server? Gnome Desktop? XEN Server? Laptop tools? There's a pattern > - one click - for each of those. Sure, lots of people do that, because they know what they're doing. But even more people use openSUSE for years and years and never realize that server installation is even an option. Too few people think about openSUSE as an option on the server - and that would instantly change if a server cd were provided and was a visible option on software.opensuse.org, in announcements etc. That wouldn't mean that the server option should be removed from the dvd. Of course there might be other less magical solutions to the problem ;-) Like redesigning the installer a little bit so the server option becomes visible even for people who never click on "Other". Mentioning server stuff in announcements. Also I always dreamt that non-installed yast modules were more visible to people who don't bother to look for them proactively. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Changelog Question
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Hello Mates, all my Packages have an *.changes-File. But after submit an Package to Factory, i found out, that the Changes was placed in the *.spec too. Now my Question: Which Possibility are the right? AFAIK i've readed in Wiki, that an *.changes File are recommended. -- Sincereley yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service openSUSE Features Screening Team Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com

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[opensuse-factory] Milestone 1 and VNC
by Richard (MQ) 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Just noticed that my installation of milestone 1 seems to have left out VNC server - and trying to install it fails with "nothing provides xorg-x11-Xvnc needed by tightvnc..." Is this a quirk of my installation (on a dual-core Celeron / Asus P5G-MX system, generally using defaults) or does anyone else see it? Nothing relevant on Bugzilla that I can find. -- Cheers Richard (MQ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] zypper problem
by Sid Boyce 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

This morning zypper dup started OK and after a while it got stuck on 0% installing packages - on 2 x86_64 boxes. Tried "zypper in libzypp zypper", that also got stuck on installing libzypp [0%]. Downloaded and upgraded libzypp and zypper packages. After that, zypper dup again OK. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [patch] fam - fix build error with gcc44
by Jan-Simon Möller 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi! Attached patch fixes fam with gcc44. Best, Jan-Simon

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[opensuse-factory] [patch] fix libaio for ARM (and others)
by Jan-Simon Möller 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Hi ! libaio needs this patch to work on ARM an other arch's : http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-hppa@lists.debian.org/msg05882.html 00_arches.patch in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/liba/libaio/libaio_0.3.106-8.diff.gz Best, Jan-Simon

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