Stephan Binner wrote:

On Friday, 9. June 2006 18:53, jdd wrote:

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I know Factory is not really available right now, but in the

The mini boot ISOs are back if you refer to that...

no. I wanted to note that there is no factory distribution for now (release is sheduled june 16?), the factory repository should be identical to 10.1 one. anyway, all options a noted "not available yet" on the wiki page :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org

Robert Schiele wrote:

On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 04:50:05PM +0200, jdd wrote:

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no. I wanted to note that there is no factory distribution for now (release is sheduled june 16?), the factory repository should be identical to 10.1 one.

Huh? What did you smoke? Sure there is a current factory distribution (which is _not_ identical to 10.1. The fact that the drpmsync server is not usable at the moment does not mean that the distribution does not exist.

Robert

http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2006-Mar/0001.html said "Our current plan for these snapshots is: Fri, Jun 16 SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha1 (Jun 15 is a holiday for us) " so I was thinking dev for 10.2 started really only then. ==To be sure.== how is the passage between 10.1 and 10.2 made? is there a progressive transition through Factory (for example, does factory had the test zen updates?) or is there at some date a massive change? how/when are important changes like Kde version made? I don't see any discussion in opensuse-factory about such things. for me it's clear in the middle of a distribution test, not between two ones. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:35:12PM +0200, jdd wrote:

http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2006-Mar/0001.html

said

"Our current plan for these snapshots is: ^^^^^^^^^

Fri, Jun 16 SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha1 (Jun 15 is a holiday for us) "

so I was thinking dev for 10.2 started really only then.

As you can read above, those Alpha-"Releases" are just snapshots of the Factory distribution tree. The Factory tree does exist all the time and is continuously updated (according to some rules about feature freeze and stuff like that). You can find a short overview of the current changes at http://en.opensuse.org/Factory/News.

==To be sure.== how is the passage between 10.1 and 10.2 made?

Developers do continuous changes to the packages whenever they have time to work at that package.

is there a progressive transition through Factory (for example, does factory had the test zen updates?) or is there at some date a massive change?

There is a continuous change but when some developers decide to do a major update (e.g. update KDE subsystem) then many packages are affected at that specific point in time. All fixes for the released distribution should go into Factory tree as well but not necessarily in the same way. It might happen that in the Factory tree one does a fix in a probably better but more intrusive (and thus too dangerous for the release branch) way.

how/when are important changes like Kde version made?

Whenever the packagers feel that the best time for updating has come.

I don't see any discussion in opensuse-factory about such things.

Well, nobody asked for such information until now.

for me it's clear in the middle of a distribution test, not between two ones.

I hope it is more clear now. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur."

Christian Boltz wrote:

As long as no new critical bugs are introduced, this isn't very surprising ;-)

:-( so you (and others) are never stopping work :-) nice. I add a phrase to get this more sure in the Factory page. Just one more info, as of the testers debugging. What is the most interesting for you, test alpha... when available, or test Factory (updating asap)? It looks pretty difficult to do the two. I'm now retired from work, so the stability of my system is less a problem thanks, jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help@opensuse.org