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Re: Re[2]: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Feb 14, 3:49pm, Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > Subject: Re[2]: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2 > > What about an installation script ? Sorry, your question doesn't parse. What installation script are you referring to? Frank > B@N > > On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:43:28 -0600 > "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak(a)execpc.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 13, 7:22am, Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2 > > > > > > Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > > > > > > > I would like to start by thanking everybody for pointing me to places > > > > where I could download Staroffice.. > > > > > > > > However, I have a corrupt installation script ("setup").. > > > > I would appreciate it very much if someone could send me a working > > script........ > > > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance. > > > > > > I bought Caldera's Open Linux 1.1 back around June of '97 and they included a > > Star > > > Office CD as part of the bundle. > > > > > > What a waste. You're better off spending a few dollars for Applixware or Word > > > Perfect. I cooould not get Star Office to install at all! I fiddled with the > > rpm's, > > > fiddled with config files - it was pure hell. > > > > > > Star Office poses no threat to any of the other office suites or word > > processors. > > > There is no point in putting yourself through the agony. > > > > > > -tks- > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > >-- End of excerpt from Tom Schaefer > > > > I would beg to differ with you on this. I also went the exact route outlined > > above and agree with it 100%. But, only as far as it goes. If I recall > > correctly I did get StarOffice installed and running, however, I blew it away > > and went the Applix and WordPerfect Route. I did not like the appearance of > > documnets produced by Star Office 3.1. > > > > I managed to get version 4.0 downloaded last week and it is a differnet > > ballgame than 3.1. Understand that I haven't had a lot of time to work with > > it, but it appears that they have made some big strides to improve the suite. > > There are still some things that I want to examine further before passing > > judgement on it, but at this time it looks fairly good. > > > > As I see it today, it is a large and powerfull office suite, perhaps a little > > overwhelming at first. I have found the help files to be fairly complete -- > > at > > least to get one comfortable with the interface and begin working. > > > > IMHO, this is a second or third generation product that has been improved a > > lot, and the price for an individual user is right -- free. It is a mega > > download -- almost 46M, but worth a look. > > Cheers, > > Frank > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Benjamin van Ruyssevelt -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by zentara＠mindspring.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Hi, This isn't a big problem, but I want to know what is happening? When I installed Wabi on SuSE, it requires me to chmod 666 on /dev/zero; in order for it to run. That's fine. What's unusual is whenever I start Yast, and do some system change, and Suse config starts when I exit; the mod on /dev/zero gets reset. It's no problem to do the chmod again, but why does SuSe config do this. Is it part of security? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BOOT/ROOT-rescue-floppy
by mantel＠suse.de 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Hi, On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, j.maleike wrote: > I would like to load a Linux-Kernel from a LILO-bootable rescue floppy into a > RAM-Disk. > > #lilo.rescue > boot = /dev/fd0 > install = /mnt/boot/boot.b > map = /mnt/boot/lilo.map > delay = 50 > timeout = 150 > compact > image = /mnt/vmlinux > ramdisk = 1440 > root = /dev/fd0 > > The floppy is mounted in /mnt. Then I have to do #lilo -C /etc/lilo.rescue , > but I am not sure. Something unexpected could happen in /boot ? No, the above ist (almost) correct. But the "ramdisk" line is only valid for older kernels. Use an append line like: append="load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=1" instead. The first parameter tells the kernel to load a ramdisk, the prompt_ramdisk gives you the opportunity to switch floppies. You might want to read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ramdisk.txt for additional info. > Futhermore I have no idea how to load a root-filesystem </> from the > emergency floppy into the RAM disk, e.g. /sbin/fsck ... S.u.S.E. Linux provides you with a rescue disk (just write /disks/rescue from CD#1 to a disk). You can use any of our boot disks to load this rescue system. If the computer has a CD-ROM drive, you can load the rescue system directly from the CD. > I would appreciate any help. > > So long . . . . . . . . . . . > > Juergen Maleike fon: 0.2204.21569 > Wingertsheide 9 fax: 0.2204.25018 > D-51427 Bergisch Gladbach mailto: maleike(a)maleike.gl.eunet.de Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] window manager stuck
by jccarr＠nwlink.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Alternatively how do you set it up so that it defaults to Kwm Either one of two ways -- 1) If it's a one-shot deal, you can try "export WINDOWMANGER=startkde" or 2) Edit /etc/profile and modify the WINDOWMANAGER line to WINDOWMANAGER=startkde. - -- James -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNOZYBd4+nKuCVSVLEQKt7QCcDiTD9rS2JqxTkjYXMoaYrFxqH9wAnAgG sNnQQ2tQ9xsDmVi4V2X4rRzy =QmxN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] window manager stuck
by chris123＠netcom.ca 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Hi: Ive been playing with the variouse window managers in 5.1, and have settled on Kwm. However when I use the script, startx kwm (or alternatively Kde) -- -bpp 16, it always defaults to fvwm2..Any particular reasons for this? Alternatively how do you set it up so that it defaults to Kwm, Thanks in advance for any info. ch -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ADABAS D mailing list information
by mperry＠basin.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Can someone email me the majordomo addresses for the available adabas D mailing lists? I am in need of some preliminary documentation on using ADABAS D 10 for linux. I did have a copy of a word for windows version 6 document but cannot now find it. I would like some kind of printed or ps formatted document on database creation, maintenance, admin, etc. A HOWTO would be quite nice. Primarily need the email addresses of any adabas d mailing lists and places to find written documentation. Thanks. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] BOOT/ROOT-rescue-floppy
by maleike＠maleike.gl.eunet.de 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Hello, I would like to load a Linux-Kernel from a LILO-bootable rescue floppy into a RAM-Disk. #lilo.rescue boot = /dev/fd0 install = /mnt/boot/boot.b map = /mnt/boot/lilo.map delay = 50 timeout = 150 compact image = /mnt/vmlinux ramdisk = 1440 root = /dev/fd0 The floppy is mounted in /mnt. Then I have to do #lilo -C /etc/lilo.rescue , but I am not sure. Something unexpected could happen in /boot ? Futhermore I have no idea how to load a root-filesystem </> from the emergency floppy into the RAM disk, e.g. /sbin/fsck ... I would appreciate any help. So long . . . . . . . . . . . Juergen Maleike fon: 0.2204.21569 Wingertsheide 9 fax: 0.2204.25018 D-51427 Bergisch Gladbach mailto: maleike(a)maleike.gl.eunet.de ......... . . . . . . . . . . -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] slrnpull and leafnode questions
by mperry＠basin.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

I am considering setting up either leafnode or slrnpull but have a few additional qeustions. I have both distributions now and looking over leafnode. I would like to offer my own newsgroups that a few systems could get to over a tcpip network at work. Will either of these offer a centralized newsfeed where I could host some newsgroups? Ideally, these groups would be a forum for news and views, etc at work. It would be great if some of our win95, nt, and OS/2 warp boxes could "find" the news server and read news using their usenet news clients. If leafnode will not do this, could someone point me to some web data or other info regarding how to setup a local news spool which would only contain internal newsgroups behind a proxy that our client maintains at work. Thx. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Requested URL/Netscape help page
by chris123＠netcom.ca 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Sorry....try this one, <A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu"><A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu</A">http://members.ping.at/theofilu</A</A>> help files are at <A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/ninst.html"><A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/ninst.html</A">http://members.ping.at/theofilu/ninst.html</A</A>> good luck...ch J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > Chris Herrnberger wrote: > > > Some on on this list pointed me to Theofilu home page that has extensive > > Netscape/Communicator info, see www.members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html for > > installation and cures to bugs. Works for me and thanks to someone for > > recommending this site. > > > > For some reason this URL doesn't work for me, got another way to get there from > here? > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by weekleyj＠fastrans.net 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Jim Hatridge wrote: > Wow, I know that local calls in the US are free, but that's still a lot of > time on the net. Here in Germany we pay for local calls by the "click". A > click is 12pf (ca. 7c). According to the time of day a click is from less > than 60 seconds to 4 minutes. If you connect 4x per hour and spend only 1 > click each time that's 96 clicks per day or 2880 clicks per month. That's > 345.60 DM per month (ca. 191$). My wife "allows" me only 167 clicks per > month (i.e. 20DM). That's about 24 minutes per day. > Damn, and I though American long distance rates we confusing :) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Yep, that is what I do. 4 times an hour I have a cron job set up in > wtopa to connect to the net, set the computer time ( this is > overkill!), get any new mail (while deleteing mail I got the last Wow, I know that local calls in the US are free, but that's still a lot of time on the net. Here in Germany we pay for local calls by the "click". A click is 12pf (ca. 7c). According to the time of day a click is from less than 60 seconds to 4 minutes. If you connect 4x per hour and spend only 1 click each time that's 96 clicks per day or 2880 clicks per month. That's 345.60 DM per month (ca. 191$). My wife "allows" me only 167 clicks per month (i.e. 20DM). That's about 24 minutes per day. > time-this is a hedge on a getpop3 screw-up [ which I should delete]), > and send any mail I have written & put into the queue. Twice a day I > use slrnpull ( Not includes in the SuSE distribution ;-( ), to go out > and get the news groups I have subscribed to. later JIM ----------------------------------------- James Hatridge Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" German Stamps From Germany About Germany In English! email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

I thought I had my 1024x768 modeline configured properly in my XF86Config file. I had verified it using xvidtune and used X successfully several times over a week period. Then all of a sudden, this mode stopped displaying correctly. Now with each session I have re-xvidtune 1024x768 to get it to work (and apply the settings of course). Any changes to XF86Config to reflect a properly set 1024x768 don't seem to work. Everytime I startup with startx, I now anticipate using xvidtune over again. My modeline settings are (the problem one): 85 1024 1074 1204 1380 768 820 823 917 I am running a 4M Matrox Mystique 220 card w/ a KTX monitor that can handle 50-90 Hz vertical and 30 KHz-64 KHz horizontal. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Arlen Carlson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [wtopa@ix.netcom.com: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CORRECTION TkInfo & Cron.daily !!]
by smb＠suse.de 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Dear Wayne... On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > It probably is, but as I pointed out in the original post, the call > to cron.daily is commented out in /sbin/init.d/boot. WHY?? OK, now > for us dummies, if it (cron.daily) is NOT called by /sbin/init.d/boot > WHAT DOES call it? Yes I see that cron.daily is in the /etc/crontab > script but how does that run. Who/What calls /etc/crontab. It isn't > clear, to me, and no one has come forward to explain it. I have asked > the same question more than once. It is not in the book! The man > page included in SuSE 5.1 covers the crontab -e method only. Why has > SuSe changed methods and not included the relavent man pages? sorry for the confusion... You may find the systemwide crontab under /etc/crontab. This mainly is created to be a) SystemV compatible and b) for making it easier for the SysAdmin to create entries for e.g. new or uucp. There still exists your personal "root" crontab. You may choose either of them. Anyway..if the commands are listed in /etc/crontab and in root's crontab they will be executed twice. You may uncomment the line in /sbin/init.d/boot if you like (need it). Well..the page you were referring to was correct. The sentence might be misleading as I don't understand it either..;) So, here is a sample entry for /etc/crontab with explanation: 53 6 * * * root $HOME/bin/cron.daily Mins Hours * * * User Command We thought this to be selfexplanatory..The command is run as the user given. This make it easy to perform systemwide tasks and to keep them together instead of having to edit the crontag for uucp and news... That's it..;^) -micha- --- Michael Burghart, S.u.S.E. GmbH, Gebhardtstr. 2, 90762 Fuerth, Germany Tel: +49-911-74053-0, WWW: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/</A">http://www.suse.de/</A</A>> Fax: +49-911-7417755, Email: mb(a)suse.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by jdkc＠woptura.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Some on on this list pointed me to Theofilu home page that has extensive > Netscape/Communicator info, see www.members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html for > installation and cures to bugs. Works for me and thanks to someone for > recommending this site. > For some reason this URL doesn't work for me, got another way to get there from here? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by chris123＠netcom.ca 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Some on on this list pointed me to Theofilu home page that has extensive Netscape/Communicator info, see www.members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html for installation and cures to bugs. Works for me and thanks to someone for recommending this site. chris Michael Perry wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 05:08:31PM -0600, Jeremy Brand stated: > > > > just a note. > > > > also, the redhat rpm 'netscape' executable is a script which then runs > > 'netscape-communicator' > > > The other thing is that the netscape script causes lots of missing symbols > here. If I point netscape at netscape-communicator -install none of these > come up. Whats the deal?? > > -- > > --Michael Perry-- > mperry(a)basin.com > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re[2]: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2
by bennie＠xs4all.nl 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

What about an installation script ? B@N On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:43:28 -0600 "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak(a)execpc.com> wrote: > > On Feb 13, 7:22am, Tom Schaefer wrote: > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2 > > > > Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > > > > > I would like to start by thanking everybody for pointing me to places > > > where I could download Staroffice.. > > > > > > However, I have a corrupt installation script ("setup").. > > > I would appreciate it very much if someone could send me a working > script........ > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance. > > > > I bought Caldera's Open Linux 1.1 back around June of '97 and they included a > Star > > Office CD as part of the bundle. > > > > What a waste. You're better off spending a few dollars for Applixware or Word > > Perfect. I cooould not get Star Office to install at all! I fiddled with the > rpm's, > > fiddled with config files - it was pure hell. > > > > Star Office poses no threat to any of the other office suites or word > processors. > > There is no point in putting yourself through the agony. > > > > -tks- > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >-- End of excerpt from Tom Schaefer > > I would beg to differ with you on this. I also went the exact route outlined > above and agree with it 100%. But, only as far as it goes. If I recall > correctly I did get StarOffice installed and running, however, I blew it away > and went the Applix and WordPerfect Route. I did not like the appearance of > documnets produced by Star Office 3.1. > > I managed to get version 4.0 downloaded last week and it is a differnet > ballgame than 3.1. Understand that I haven't had a lot of time to work with > it, but it appears that they have made some big strides to improve the suite. > There are still some things that I want to examine further before passing > judgement on it, but at this time it looks fairly good. > > As I see it today, it is a large and powerfull office suite, perhaps a little > overwhelming at first. I have found the help files to be fairly complete -- > at > least to get one comfortable with the interface and begin working. > > IMHO, this is a second or third generation product that has been improved a > lot, and the price for an individual user is right -- free. It is a mega > download -- almost 46M, but worth a look. > Cheers, > Frank > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] was: Bash Redialer now: rc.firewall.on
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

On 13-Feb-98 Bodo Bauer wrote: >> The only thing I haven't added yet is a way to kick this script after an >> automatic redial. My multidialer won't continue until connected. Put your script sequentially after the call to my script and it will continue if connected (actually if connected or timed out. You can check the return code) By the responses, it sounds like this won't be necessary, anyways! I may stick a call to lynx to dump my usage time page to a file (or mail to me, even better) each time mail is fetched. > You can also use 'diald', which works perfect for me. (In fact, our office > has been connectet to the internet via a diald controlled PPP link. But > since last week we have our T1 up and running and no dialing is needed > any more...:) I had diald up and functional, but I don't want the port to be that sensitive. Sometimes ping (or something else) would get zombied somehow and constantly be bringing up the connection. I only have 10 hours on the account per month, so I didn't want it to dial without supervision! I put this script in my crontab and it fetches my mail while I sleep! I had to hack a whole lot more to get this to happen in OS/2, and not at all in Whine 95. --- Jonathan Markevich <jonathan(a)aracnet.net> Tax reform means "Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree." -- Russell Long -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by mperry＠basin.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

On Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 05:08:31PM -0600, Jeremy Brand stated: > > just a note. > > also, the redhat rpm 'netscape' executable is a script which then runs > 'netscape-communicator' > The other thing is that the netscape script causes lots of missing symbols here. If I point netscape at netscape-communicator -install none of these come up. Whats the deal?? -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [wtopa@ix.netcom.com: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CORRECTION TkInfo & Cron.daily !!]
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Subject: Re: [wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CORRECTION TkInfo & Cron.daily !!] Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 05:29:00PM -0800 In reply to:Bodo Bauer Quoting Bodo Bauer(bb(a)suse.com): > > > Hi Wayne, > > > > It probably is, but as I pointed out in the original post, the call > > to cron.daily is commented out in /sbin/init.d/boot. WHY?? OK, now > > for us dummies, if it (cron.daily) is NOT called by /sbin/init.d/boot > > WHAT DOES call it? Yes I see that cron.daily is in the /etc/crontab > > script but how does that run. Who/What calls /etc/crontab. It isn't > > clear, to me, and no one has come forward to explain it. I have asked > > the same question more than once. It is not in the book! The man > > page included in SuSE 5.1 covers the crontab -e method only. Why has > > SuSe changed methods and not included the relavent man pages? > > man cron says: > > [...] > Cron searches /var/cron/tabs for crontab files which are > named after accounts in /etc/passwd; crontabs found are > loaded into memory. Cron also searches for /etc/crontab > which is in a different format (see crontab(5)). Cron > then wakes up every minute, examining all stored crontabs, > checking each command to see if it should be run in the > current minute. When executing commands, any output is > mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user named > in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such > exists). > [...] > > As you see /etc/crontab is not assigned to any user, it's kind > of a 'system' table for regular jobs. > > I think it's not a question of SysV or not, it's just an > additional file to place jobs for regular sceduling. The > line in /sbin/init.d/boot is usefull if your isn't up 24h. > > crontab -e works still like it's supposed to be. You can > have a crontab for root and any other user... > Bodo How stupid of me. Why did I only look for information on crontab in crontab Man pages. I should have looked in cron. ;-(( Ok, so I guess that any cron jobs should be put in /etc/crontab. Now may I ask, what are the advantages f any, over crontab -e? wayne > Cioa, > BB > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are so long they can't afford the disk space. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [wtopa@ix.netcom.com: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CORRECTION TkInfo & Cron.daily !!]
by bb＠suse.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Hi Wayne, > > It probably is, but as I pointed out in the original post, the call > to cron.daily is commented out in /sbin/init.d/boot. WHY?? OK, now > for us dummies, if it (cron.daily) is NOT called by /sbin/init.d/boot > WHAT DOES call it? Yes I see that cron.daily is in the /etc/crontab > script but how does that run. Who/What calls /etc/crontab. It isn't > clear, to me, and no one has come forward to explain it. I have asked > the same question more than once. It is not in the book! The man > page included in SuSE 5.1 covers the crontab -e method only. Why has > SuSe changed methods and not included the relavent man pages? man cron says: [...] Cron searches /var/cron/tabs for crontab files which are named after accounts in /etc/passwd; crontabs found are loaded into memory. Cron also searches for /etc/crontab which is in a different format (see crontab(5)). Cron then wakes up every minute, examining all stored crontabs, checking each command to see if it should be run in the current minute. When executing commands, any output is mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user named in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists). [...] As you see /etc/crontab is not assigned to any user, it's kind of a 'system' table for regular jobs. I think it's not a question of SysV or not, it's just an additional file to place jobs for regular sceduling. The line in /sbin/init.d/boot is usefull if your isn't up 24h. crontab -e works still like it's supposed to be. You can have a crontab for root and any other user... Cioa, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Firewall HOWTO
by bb＠suse.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

phillip mannie wrote: > > Bodo Bauer wrote: > > <(whackage for brevity)> > > > I will try to translate my Mini-Howto in englisch ASAP... > > I'd sure appreciate a look at your Firewall Mini-Howto as well... Look at chapter 17.5 in the manual for the meantime. It's heavily based on the Howto.... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] firewall settings
by bb＠suse.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

> > > > You can also use 'diald', which works perfect for me. (In fact, our office > > Great - because I could never get diald to work. But that's been a year or so since I > fiddled with it. Modem just sat there .... is there a finished version available from > SuSE?I guess I can check the CDs ... diald is part of the distribution! > > I will try to translate my Mini-Howto in englisch ASAP... > > > > Ciao, > > BB > > Yes - please do .. the kernel firewalling and its manipulation via ipfwadm does put > one through a bit of a learning curve ... Most of the HOWTO is part of chapter 17 in our manual. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [wtopa@ix.netcom.com: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CORRECTION TkInfo & Cron.daily !!]
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Subject: Re: [wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CORRECTION TkInfo & Cron.daily !!] Date: Sat, Feb 14, 1998 at 12:15:19AM +0100 In reply to:Michael Burghart Quoting Michael Burghart(smb(a)suse.de): > > > Dear Wayne..hi again.:-)) > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > > > > Just installed TkInfo from the SuSE 5.1 CD's. It complained about no > > > whatis databases. Ran makewhatis manually and now only get the error > > > "/usr/man/preformat -- doesn't exist" > > cron.daily is your friend..;)) > > > micha It probably is, but as I pointed out in the original post, the call to cron.daily is commented out in /sbin/init.d/boot. WHY?? OK, now for us dummies, if it (cron.daily) is NOT called by /sbin/init.d/boot WHAT DOES call it? Yes I see that cron.daily is in the /etc/crontab script but how does that run. Who/What calls /etc/crontab. It isn't clear, to me, and no one has come forward to explain it. I have asked the same question more than once. It is not in the book! The man page included in SuSE 5.1 covers the crontab -e method only. Why has SuSe changed methods and not included the relavent man pages? > > > Sorry for the questions but SuSE has introduced (at least to me), a > > > few new ways to do things and I would like to do it the SuSE way in > > > this setup. > > there is a crontab under /etc/crontab Have a look at this. The format is > explained in our handbook (in the "S.u.S.E. chapter")... Which SuSE chapter. Chapter 11 Page 157? If so would you please explain the last sentence. ie " additionally you must insert after the time setting, under which user the specific order should be handled" For those of us that are NOT SystemV people, and since it has only been in SuSE since version 5.0, wouldn't a little example be in order. Whoever wrote that understood it, but I sure don't! Or do you mean Chapter 17, Page 276, which says use "crontab -e". micha, the book says both ways, gives an example of the way most of us KNOW, but not an example of the NEW way SuSE has changed over to! Please - some examples!! The book shows the crontab -e way. How about the SuSE (SystemV) way? PLEASE! > > And this should run...;))..We have setup a crontab under /etc as this is > SystemV compatible.. So if there is an explanation of how the SystemV method works could you supply a source for that explanation. You (SuSE) included BOTH methods. Why, is the SystemV way better/worse then the usual crontab -e? If I could have found an explanation in the book, I would not have asked these difficult questions. You have not answered the question conderning the preformat directory. Why is there none? TkMan reports that as an error. Why doesn't SuSU have one. SystemV?? Sorry, I am getting frustrated again! I mean no disrespect but I am used to, at least, reading the man page for something that I don't understand. SuSE 5.1 has a lot of man pages missing! > > > -micha- > > --- > Michael Burghart, S.u.S.E. GmbH, Gebhardtstr. 2, 90762 Fuerth, Germany > Tel: +49-911-74053-0, WWW: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/</A">http://www.suse.de/</A</A>> > Fax: +49-911-7417755, Email: mb(a)suse.de > > > . -- A LISP programmer knows the value of everything, but the cost of nothing. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] was: Bash Redialer now: rc.firewall.on
by bb＠suse.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Bodo > > Do your MSQ_* scripts allow other networked machines use the ppp > link through the linux system? I have not impleted that on the SuSE > setup yet. I assume yes, but I have assumed things on SuSE that were > wrong, before. Yes, you can use a Linux machine as a masquerading router with this scripts. It's easy, look at page 274 of the manual... :) Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Firewall HOWTO
by phil＠servcom.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Bodo Bauer wrote: <(whackage for brevity)> > I will try to translate my Mini-Howto in englisch ASAP... I'd sure appreciate a look at your Firewall Mini-Howto as well... Thanks, phil -- phillip mannie _Novus Ordo Seclorum <phil(a)servcom.com> / / (_)__ __ ____ __ a.k.a. / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / <phil(a)ktuu.com> /___ /_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ S.u.S.E. M$ delenda est! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] was: Bash Redialer now: rc.firewall.on
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 14 Feb '98

14 Feb '98

Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] was: Bash Redialer now: rc.firewall.on Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 03:03:03PM -0800 In reply to:Bodo Bauer Quoting Bodo Bauer(bb(a)suse.com): > > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > > Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > > > Please let me know if you can see any improvements. I am just learning shell > > > scripting! > > > > > > > You're a helluva lot better than I''ll ever be!Perhaps this will compliment your > > ppp script ... Here's a modified firewall script. I downloaded this script a > > while back from a MASQ page on the net - sorry I don't know who actually wrote > > it, but it seems to work fine. I run this after the link is up, and it does a > > nice job. > > So why don't you use the firewall/masquerading scipts included in the distrubution? > > > The main modification is that it automatically detects the ppp0 address, which > > is handy for those who have dynamic IP addresses. If anyone finds fault with it, > > That's nice, but not realy needed... > > > please let me know. There's nothing worse than a crappy firewall script! > > > > The only thing I haven't added yet is a way to kick this script after an > > automatic redial. > > You don't need to if you set up the firewall rules on a device and not > on a address like the script you posted. The rules can be set up at any > time, it doesn.t care if the interface is existung or not. If it exists > the rules will take care of the traffic. > > Waht you can do is edit /etc/rc/config and set up the FW_* and MSQ_* > variables like described in the manual, and set the FW_START/MSQ_START > to 'yes' to make them active. > Bodo Do your MSQ_* scripts allow other networked machines use the ppp link through the linux system? I have not impleted that on the SuSE setup yet. I assume yes, but I have assumed things on SuSE that were wrong, before. > The firewall then will protect you at the time you are connected and you > don't have to think about starting/stopping the firewall. > > BTW, to remove the rules, which are installed by your script, try this: > > ipfwadm -f -I > ipfwadm -f -O > ipfwadm -f -F > > > ppp 2.3.0 redials automatically just fine, and will accomplish 900f the time > > that which Jonathan's script is doing. Since I'm somewhat limited on time, I > > haven't figured out what signal it takes to "kick" it into redial, other than > > the fact that if the connection is terminated by the other end, it starts > > redialing nicely. > > You can also use 'diald', which works perfect for me. (In fact, our office > has been connectet to the internet via a diald controlled PPP link. But > since last week we have our T1 up and running and no dialing is needed > any more...:) > > > And of course, you're all wondering why I don't use the SuSE supplied > > firewall/MASQ scripts, it's like anything else - you use what you know works. I > > haven't had time to read the docs and test their scripts, as I'm not sure what > > some of the values are in rc.config. > > They are documented in the manual, and I will try to translate my Mini-Howto in > englisch ASAP... > > Ciao, > BB > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Bringing computers into the home won't change either one, but may revitalize the corner saloon. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] firewall settings
by netd＠fastrans.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Bodo Bauer wrote: > You don't need to if you set up the firewall rules on a device and not > on a address like the script you posted. The rules can be set up at any > time, it doesn.t care if the interface is existung or not. If it exists > the rules will take care of the traffic. > Great idea! ;) > Waht you can do is edit /etc/rc/config and set up the FW_* and MSQ_* > variables like described in the manual, and set the FW_START/MSQ_START > to 'yes' to make them active. > ok ... will investigate further ....and try to implement.. > The firewall then will protect you at the time you are connected and you > don't have to think about starting/stopping the firewall. > ah ... cool > BTW, to remove the rules, which are installed by your script, try this: > > ipfwadm -f -I > ipfwadm -f -O > ipfwadm -f -F > yes - I have such a script to shut down / stop the firewalling ... > > ppp 2.3.0 redials automatically just fine, and will accomplish 900f the time > > that which Jonathan's script is doing. Since I'm somewhat limited on time, I > > haven't figured out what signal it takes to "kick" it into redial, other than > > the fact that if the connection is terminated by the other end, it starts > > redialing nicely. > > You can also use 'diald', which works perfect for me. (In fact, our office Great - because I could never get diald to work. But that's been a year or so since I fiddled with it. Modem just sat there .... is there a finished version available from SuSE?I guess I can check the CDs ... > I will try to translate my Mini-Howto in englisch ASAP... > > Ciao, > BB Yes - please do .. the kernel firewalling and its manipulation via ipfwadm does put one through a bit of a learning curve ... Thanks! -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] test, Hello all
by bb＠suse.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Steven Udell wrote: > > Hello World, [SuSE] > > I recently bought an 'Ultra Wide Adaptec 2940'. > Useing aic7xxx4.1.1 that came with SuSE 5.1, (normal lilo bootup) it > fails with: > scsi0: Scanning channel A for devices > scsi:aborting command due to time out: pid 0 scsi 0 channel 0 id 0 lun > 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 > scsi host 0 abort(pid0) timedout-resetting > scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 > "" "" a few more times with like .......trying harder.... > scsi host > probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang. > > Now whats up with that? When: > 1)a SuSE Distro boot disk (its the only way I can even boot my linux box > now) > a) will load kernel module aic7xxx and dectect everything just fine. > > What would be the (sigh) difference of the SuSE distros boot disk aic7xxx > kernel than, the kernel that SuSE loaded up for me?? When I picked aic7xxx > to be installed........ Try to use the lx-suse kernel which is on our ftp-site. I think it has a newer release of the (BSDish) AIC driver in it, then the one on the CD. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off
by humo＠fuzzyvibe.demon.nl 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

On Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 03:34:21PM -0500, Steve wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Jonathan Jefferies wrote: > > =>Albert Janssen wrote: > =>> > =>> On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 07:34:12PM +0100, Jim Hatridge wrote: > => > =>> > I have been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp files. I can run > =>> > ppp-on from "hatridge", but it gives me a "connect script failed" error > =>> > and stops. What should I do? > =>> > =>> 1 of the things is: chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd > => > =>And would someone tell me what "+s" is ?? Does linux > > > > > It's nothing new to Linux. It's called the sticky bit. It has differing (well, AFAIK, adding the sticky bit is chmod +t /file) The correct one for /usr/sbin/pppd is probably: chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd or chmod 4755 /usr/sbin/pppd (chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd does do the u+s _and_ g+s ...) If /dev/modem exists, also a chmod 666 /dev/modem is 'needed' .. Furthermore, add the files in /etc/ppp/ in a seperate group and that should be it... I hope. -- bye, greetings, Albert (Email: humo(a)FuzzyVibe.demon.nl ; Fido: 2:2801/307.74) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

just a note. also, the redhat rpm 'netscape' executable is a script which then runs 'netscape-communicator' On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote: > > wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > > Chris > > > > Hmm, your right! If you are stuck on RPM's, see if you can find one > > for LessTif. This ia a free Motif replacement package. Odd tho, > > I am running Communicator 4.03 & 4.04 and do not have a libXm.so > > library installed. Might be one of those RPM gotchas. Go get the > > Netscape package if that is so. You don't have to compile it, just > > install it. > > Hi, > > I don't know this Netscape rpm, but usualy there comes two binaries > with netscape. One of them needs Moitf (and libXm is the motif lib), > the other doesn't. > > So try to install it with rpm --force --nodeps <rpmfile> and try to > start 'netscape' not 'netscape-dynMotif'. > > Ciao, > BB > > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mail coming from www.suse.com
by bb＠suse.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Michael > > None of my mail is coming from that address, Michael. You must have > got the interest of the HIGHER UP's. :-) There are some things going on in the moment which may things look strange. We're moving our internet connectivity to the Oakland office. This includes WEB/FT-Hosting DNS etc. So don't care about strange looking things but please contact me if things go wrong! Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

if you got the rpm from redhat's site, they are probably assuming that you are using redhat. they ship mootif with redhat 5.0, and yes that is the library.... but the odd thing is... redhat must have compiled it dynamically. On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Frank Pawlak wrote: > > On Feb 13, 1:54pm, Chris Herrnberger wrote: > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > tried to install communicator rpm and got following message; > > > > missing .....libXm.so.1.2 > > I believe that this is a Motif 1.2 lib. It is strange that Netscape would be > looking for it. I installed Communicator by downloading it from > ftp.netscape.com and had no such experience. However, I do have libXm.so.1.2 > installed for my mailer, but I did the netscape install before adding this lib. > Give it a try. > Chrres, > Frank > > > called up Yast to search all SuSE programs but no such library available. > > Can someone provide some direction as Im very new to this and would > > appreciate any info.... > > > > thanks > > > > Chris > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >-- End of excerpt from Chris Herrnberger > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] was: Bash Redialer now: rc.firewall.on
by bb＠suse.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > > Jonathan Markevich wrote: > > > Please let me know if you can see any improvements. I am just learning shell > > scripting! > > > > You're a helluva lot better than I''ll ever be!Perhaps this will compliment your > ppp script ... Here's a modified firewall script. I downloaded this script a > while back from a MASQ page on the net - sorry I don't know who actually wrote > it, but it seems to work fine. I run this after the link is up, and it does a > nice job. So why don't you use the firewall/masquerading scipts included in the distrubution? > The main modification is that it automatically detects the ppp0 address, which > is handy for those who have dynamic IP addresses. If anyone finds fault with it, That's nice, but not realy needed... > please let me know. There's nothing worse than a crappy firewall script! > > The only thing I haven't added yet is a way to kick this script after an > automatic redial. You don't need to if you set up the firewall rules on a device and not on a address like the script you posted. The rules can be set up at any time, it doesn.t care if the interface is existung or not. If it exists the rules will take care of the traffic. Waht you can do is edit /etc/rc/config and set up the FW_* and MSQ_* variables like described in the manual, and set the FW_START/MSQ_START to 'yes' to make them active. The firewall then will protect you at the time you are connected and you don't have to think about starting/stopping the firewall. BTW, to remove the rules, which are installed by your script, try this: ipfwadm -f -I ipfwadm -f -O ipfwadm -f -F > ppp 2.3.0 redials automatically just fine, and will accomplish 900f the time > that which Jonathan's script is doing. Since I'm somewhat limited on time, I > haven't figured out what signal it takes to "kick" it into redial, other than > the fact that if the connection is terminated by the other end, it starts > redialing nicely. You can also use 'diald', which works perfect for me. (In fact, our office has been connectet to the internet via a diald controlled PPP link. But since last week we have our T1 up and running and no dialing is needed any more...:) > And of course, you're all wondering why I don't use the SuSE supplied > firewall/MASQ scripts, it's like anything else - you use what you know works. I > haven't had time to read the docs and test their scripts, as I'm not sure what > some of the values are in rc.config. They are documented in the manual, and I will try to translate my Mini-Howto in englisch ASAP... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by bb＠suse.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Chris > > Hmm, your right! If you are stuck on RPM's, see if you can find one > for LessTif. This ia a free Motif replacement package. Odd tho, > I am running Communicator 4.03 & 4.04 and do not have a libXm.so > library installed. Might be one of those RPM gotchas. Go get the > Netscape package if that is so. You don't have to compile it, just > install it. Hi, I don't know this Netscape rpm, but usualy there comes two binaries with netscape. One of them needs Moitf (and libXm is the motif lib), the other doesn't. So try to install it with rpm --force --nodeps <rpmfile> and try to start 'netscape' not 'netscape-dynMotif'. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Jim I didn't post my other replies to the list, just to you. If you find that they worked we should post them back here. more below. Subject: Re: PPP-on/off Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 09:24:27PM +0100 In reply to:Jim Hatridge Quoting Jim Hatridge(hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de): > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Jim > > > > FYI > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 998 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-off > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 413 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-up > > -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dialout 83856 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppd > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7792 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppstats > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158 Jan 30 23:47 /etc/ppp/ppp.chat > > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 12 14:18 /dev/modem -> /dev/ttyS0 > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root uucp 4, 64 Feb 12 14:25 /dev/ttyS0 > > > > All users are assigned to both uucp and dialout groups. > > > > HTH > > > > Wayne > > Hi Wayne; > > I've put all the permissions like you showed, but it's still a no-go. I'm > still getting "connect script failed" errors. In /var/log/messages it says > that pppd is starting and then I get the script error. I should add that > my ISP uses PAP. That may change things, but right now it's not even > getting to the modem, so I don't know if it matters about PAP. BTW, > ppp-on/off does work under root, so I know I have something right. > > In the end what I want to do is to be able under user "hatridge" just run, > for example, "getmail", which would make the connection, get my email, > download outgoing mail and disconnect. > > Any ideas? Yep, that is what I do. 4 times an hour I have a cron job set up in wtopa to connect to the net, set the computer time ( this is overkill!), get any new mail (while deleteing mail I got the last time-this is a hedge on a getpop3 screw-up [ which I should delete]), and send any mail I have written & put into the queue. Twice a day I use slrnpull ( Not includes in the SuSE distribution ;-( ), to go out and get the news groups I have subscribed to. I used to use sendmail & fetchpop for mail. I did not like that setup and have since changed over to qmail and pop3d. I used to lose mail on occasion but since the change-over it had been perfect. I highly recommend Qmail! HTH Wayne > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > JIM > > > ----------------------------------------- > James Hatridge > Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" > German Stamps > >From Germany About Germany In English! > email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de > > > > > > . -- C, n.: A programming language that is sort of like Pascal except more like assembly except that it isn't very much like either one, or anything else. It is either the best language available to the art today, or it isn't. -- Ray Simard _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by deasey＠mymachine.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by gecko＠freecar.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

On 13-Feb-98 Jim Hatridge wrote: > >On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >> Jim >> >> FYI >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 998 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-off >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 413 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-up >> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dialout 83856 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppd >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7792 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppstats >> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158 Jan 30 23:47 /etc/ppp/ppp.chat >> >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 12 14:18 /dev/modem -> >/dev/ttyS0 >> crw-rw-rw- 1 root uucp 4, 64 Feb 12 14:25 /dev/ttyS0 >> >> All users are assigned to both uucp and dialout groups. >> >> HTH >> >> Wayne > >Hi Wayne; > >I've put all the permissions like you showed, but it's still a no-go. I'm >still getting "connect script failed" errors. In /var/log/messages it says >that pppd is starting and then I get the script error. I should add that >my ISP uses PAP. That may change things, but right now it's not even >getting to the modem, so I don't know if it matters about PAP. BTW, >ppp-on/off does work under root, so I know I have something right. > >In the end what I want to do is to be able under user "hatridge" just run, >for example, "getmail", which would make the connection, get my email, >download outgoing mail and disconnect. > >Any ideas? > Check your permissions on "chat" and maybe make sure you have debug FOR chat turned on in the ppp.chat script. It looks like that might be the script that's dieing. THEN view the /var/log/messages. You might also want to make sure thet debug is turned on for pppd. ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Chris Hmm, your right! If you are stuck on RPM's, see if you can find one for LessTif. This ia a free Motif replacement package. Odd tho, I am running Communicator 4.03 & 4.04 and do not have a libXm.so library installed. Might be one of those RPM gotchas. Go get the Netscape package if that is so. You don't have to compile it, just install it. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:54:22PM -0500 In reply to:Chris Herrnberger Quoting Chris Herrnberger(chris123(a)netcom.ca): > > > > > Hi > > tried to install communicator rpm and got following message; > > missing .....libXm.so.1.2 > > called up Yast to search all SuSE programs but no such library available. > Can someone provide some direction as Im very new to this and would > appreciate any info.... > > thanks > > Chris > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- "APL is a write-only language. I can write programs in APL, but I can't read any of them." -- Roy Keir _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off
by smann＠onyx.interactive.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Jonathan Jefferies wrote: =>Albert Janssen wrote: =>> =>> On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 07:34:12PM +0100, Jim Hatridge wrote: => =>> > I have been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp files. I can run =>> > ppp-on from "hatridge", but it gives me a "connect script failed" error =>> > and stops. What should I do? =>> =>> 1 of the things is: chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd => =>And would someone tell me what "+s" is ?? Does linux It's nothing new to Linux. It's called the sticky bit. It has differing meanings for directories and files. % man chmod should help. =>have some new form of the chmod? Just curious as I =>don't see it on the sun and my linux box is at home. => It should exist on the sun too. However, it certainly is OS dependant. =>Jonathan => Steve "The Fish" Mann WWW: <A HREF="http://www.interactive.net/~smann/"><A HREF="http://www.interactive.net/~smann/</A">http://www.interactive.net/~smann/</A</A>> Programmer Analyst Email: smann(a)bridge.com Bridge Information Systems smann(a)interactive.net smann(a)gnu.ai.mit.edu 200 Vesey St - 3 WFC WWW Page Design, Networking, New York, NY 10384 Personal Computer Training/Service/Sales "Baseball is 90 percent mental. The other half is physical." - Yogi Berra -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

And as a final note. As you pointed out ( don't use a local .inputrc file) the use of the inputrc file causes the keys to work incorrectly in an Xterm! So this is a fix for the console but we are again back to either the console working OR the Xterm working. The fixes for the keyboard that I used to get this all working on Slackware was based on an article in Linux Journal, June 97, "Consistent Keyboard Configuration" Page 52 by John F. Bunch <bunch(a)ro.com>. The article was printed poorly and corrections appear in the Sept 97 issue, page 6. wayne Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 02:25:37PM -0500 In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > > Werner > > Sorry, I forgot to say thæt the below changes worked if I also had > DEL: delete-char in a user .inputrc file. So it took the 2 changes to > the map AND the addition to .inputrc to make it function correctly > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. > Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:54:41PM -0500 > > In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com > > Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > I made the following changes to the > > /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/us.map file. > > > > #keycode 14 = Delete Delete changed to > > keycode 14 = BackSpace BackSpace > > > > #keycode 111 = Remove changed to > > keycode 111 = Delete Delete > > > > The console keys BackSpace and Delete now work as they should with no > > other changes. I would assume the us-prokey.map should get the same > > treatment. > > > > wayne > > > > > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. > > Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:26:28PM +0100 > > > > -- > If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But > this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is > somehow enobled and none dare criticize it. > _______________________________________________________ > Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- C, n.: A programming language that is sort of like Pascal except more like assembly except that it isn't very much like either one, or anything else. It is either the best language available to the art today, or it isn't. -- Ray Simard _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Sorry, Mutt chopped sone of the last message. Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:40:46PM -0500 In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > Quote form Linux in a Netshell > > chmod > > Permission > . > . > s Set user (or group) ID > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Software, n.: Formal evening attire for female computer analysts. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Jim > > FYI > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 998 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-off > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 413 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-up > -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dialout 83856 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppd > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7792 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppstats > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158 Jan 30 23:47 /etc/ppp/ppp.chat > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 12 14:18 /dev/modem -> /dev/ttyS0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root uucp 4, 64 Feb 12 14:25 /dev/ttyS0 > > All users are assigned to both uucp and dialout groups. > > HTH > > Wayne Hi Wayne; I've put all the permissions like you showed, but it's still a no-go. I'm still getting "connect script failed" errors. In /var/log/messages it says that pppd is starting and then I get the script error. I should add that my ISP uses PAP. That may change things, but right now it's not even getting to the modem, so I don't know if it matters about PAP. BTW, ppp-on/off does work under root, so I know I have something right. In the end what I want to do is to be able under user "hatridge" just run, for example, "getmail", which would make the connection, get my email, download outgoing mail and disconnect. Any ideas? Thanks for your help JIM ----------------------------------------- James Hatridge Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" German Stamps From Germany About Germany In English! email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Werner Sorry, I forgot to say thæt the below changes worked if I also had DEL: delete-char in a user .inputrc file. So it took the 2 changes to the map AND the addition to .inputrc to make it function correctly Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:54:41PM -0500 In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > > Werner > > I made the following changes to the > /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/us.map file. > > #keycode 14 = Delete Delete changed to > keycode 14 = BackSpace BackSpace > > #keycode 111 = Remove changed to > keycode 111 = Delete Delete > > The console keys BackSpace and Delete now work as they should with no > other changes. I would assume the us-prokey.map should get the same > treatment. > > wayne > > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. > Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:26:28PM +0100 > -- If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow enobled and none dare criticize it. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

On Feb 13, 1:54pm, Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install > > > > Hi > > tried to install communicator rpm and got following message; > > missing .....libXm.so.1.2 I believe that this is a Motif 1.2 lib. It is strange that Netscape would be looking for it. I installed Communicator by downloading it from ftp.netscape.com and had no such experience. However, I do have libXm.so.1.2 installed for my mailer, but I did the netscape install before adding this lib. Give it a try. Chrres, Frank > called up Yast to search all SuSE programs but no such library available. > Can someone provide some direction as Im very new to this and would > appreciate any info.... > > thanks > > Chris > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Chris Herrnberger -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Werner I made the following changes to the /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/us.map file. #keycode 14 = Delete Delete changed to keycode 14 = BackSpace BackSpace #keycode 111 = Remove changed to keycode 111 = Delete Delete The console keys BackSpace and Delete now work as they should with no other changes. I would assume the us-prokey.map should get the same treatment. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:26:28PM +0100 In reply to:Dr. Werner Fink Quoting Dr. Werner Fink(werner(a)suse.de): > > > > > > Werner > > > > With the ~/.inputrc file removed the Xterm works correctly. Delete, > > BackSpace, Home and end work as they should. The problem is, as I > > stated below, on the console the Delete key does not work > > correctly. The Delete key deletes the character to the right of the > > cursor rather then the character the cursor is on. This is the reason > > I added "Del: delete-char" to the .inputrc file in my home directory. > > Hmmm ... it seems to a bug in the console map. You can test this by > using Ctrl-V and pressing BackSpace, this should give > > ^? > > the same for Delete ... Ctrl-V and pressing Delete should give > > ^[[3~ > > (^? is \127 also known as DEL and ^[ is \033 also known as ESC). > > > > > I did not expect for all the keys to work in X and am happy that you > > have done all the work required to make them work. I do, however, > > want to get the console Delete key to work. I had already done all > > this for the Slackware distribution and had everything working > > correctly. I am now 99% there except for that darn Delete key! > > > > I will load the xlogin and xtelnet packages and read up on them. > > If I understand you correctly, you think that the keyboard is working > > correctly and I should leave it as is. Or that there may be some file > > in /etc/skel that has changed something. I am sorry if I have > > mis-understood you. > > Please have a look into your map file in /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/. > Note that on linux console the keycode of BackSpace key should repeat > the ASCII-DEL character and the keycode of the Delete key should repeat > the ANSI-DELETE-CHAR sequence (also known as Remove). With this mapping the > /etc/inputrc works: > > home/werner> grep delete /etc/inputrc > "\e[3~": delete-char > # do `backward-delete-char' > # Note: `delete-char' is maped to \033[3~ > "\C-?": backward-delete-char > "\C-H": backward-delete-char > > > (\C-? is identical with ^?) > > > Werner > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Information Center, n.: A room staffed by professional computer people whose job it is to tell you why you cannot have the information you require. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Sun doesn't have SETUID ??? Wow. Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 10:14:23AM -0800 In reply to:Jonathan Jefferies Quoting Jonathan Jefferies(jonathanj(a)allant.com): > > > Albert Janssen wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 07:34:12PM +0100, Jim Hatridge wrote: > > > > I have been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp files. I can run > > > ppp-on from "hatridge", but it gives me a "connect script failed" error > > > and stops. What should I do? > > > > 1 of the things is: chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd > > And would someone tell me what "+s" is ?? Does linux > have some new form of the chmod? Just curious as I > don't see it on the sun and my linux box is at home. > > Jonathan > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Office Automation, n.: The use of computers to improve efficiency by removing anyone you would want to talk with over coffee. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Quote form Linux in a Netshell chmod Permission -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by chris123＠netcom.ca 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Hi tried to install communicator rpm and got following message; missing .....libXm.so.1.2 called up Yast to search all SuSE programs but no such library available. Can someone provide some direction as Im very new to this and would appreciate any info.... thanks Chris -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off
by gecko＠freecar.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Although I've never seen it as simply +s (usually u+s or g+s) I quote fromt the man page (heavily edited for brevity) The format of a symbolic mode is `[ugoa...][[+-=][rwxXs_ tugo...]...][,...]'. A combination of the letters `ugoa' controls which users' access to the file will be changed: the user who owns it (u), other users in the file's group (g), other users not in the file's group (o), or all users (a). If none of these are given, the effect is as if `a' were given, but bits that are set in the umask are not affected. The operator `+' causes the permissions selected to be added to the existing permissions of each file; `-' causes them to be removed; and `=' causes them to be the only permissions that the file has. The letters `rwxXstugo' select the new permissions for the affected users: read (r), write (w), execute (or access for directories) (x), execute only if the file is a direc_ tory or already has execute permission for some user (X), set user or group ID on execution (s), save program text on swap device (t), the permissions that the user who owns the file currently has for it (u), the permissions that other users in the file's group have for it (g), and the permissions that other users not in the file's group have for it (o). On 13-Feb-98 Jonathan Jefferies wrote: > > >And would someone tell me what "+s" is ?? Does linux >have some new form of the chmod? Just curious as I >don't see it on the sun and my linux box is at home. > >Jonathan ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 01:26:28PM +0100 In reply to:Dr. Werner Fink Quoting Dr. Werner Fink(werner(a)suse.de): > > > > > > Werner > > > > With the ~/.inputrc file removed the Xterm works correctly. Delete, > > BackSpace, Home and end work as they should. The problem is, as I > > stated below, on the console the Delete key does not work > > correctly. The Delete key deletes the character to the right of the > > cursor rather then the character the cursor is on. This is the reason > > I added "Del: delete-char" to the .inputrc file in my home directory. > > Hmmm ... it seems to a bug in the console map. You can test this by > using Ctrl-V and pressing BackSpace, this should give > > ^? > > the same for Delete ... Ctrl-V and pressing Delete should give > > ^[[3~ > > (^? is \127 also known as DEL and ^[ is \033 also known as ESC). ahh, but they do NOT on the console. On an user installed by SuSE with NO added files. On this new user, Ctrl-V backspace gives ^H Ctrl-V delete gives ^? VT3 wayne-SuSE:~$ grep delete /etc/inputrc "\e[3~": delete-char #do `backward-delete-char' # Note: `delete-char' is maped to \033[3~ "\C-?": backward-delete-char <<<<<<<<<??????? "\C-H": backward-delete-char VT3 wayne-SuSE:~$ Am I reading the above wrong? "\C-?" = ^? = backward-delete-char NOT delete????? Dosen't that cancel out the "\e[3~": delete-char ???? I believe (?) that the us.map was loaded om installation so I checked the differences in the 2 us map files. VT6 wtopa-SuSE:/usr/lib/kbd/keytables$ diff us-prokey.map us.map 4c4 < keycode 0 = --- > keymaps 0-2,4-6,8,9,12 14a15 > control alt keycode 3 = Meta_nul VT6 wtopa-SuSE:/usr/lib/kbd/keytables$ So it looks like there is nothing different inthe Delete and BackSpace in either file. [...] > Please have a look into your map file in /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/. > Note that on linux console the keycode of BackSpace key should repeat > the ASCII-DEL character and the keycode of the Delete key should repeat > the ANSI-DELETE-CHAR sequence (also known as Remove). With this mapping the > /etc/inputrc works: > > home/werner> grep delete /etc/inputrc > "\e[3~": delete-char > # do `backward-delete-char' > # Note: `delete-char' is maped to \033[3~ > "\C-?": backward-delete-char > "\C-H": backward-delete-char > > > (\C-? is identical with ^?) > > > Werner VT6 wtopa-SuSE:/usr/lib/kbd/keytables$ grep Delete us.map control keycode 9 = Delete keycode 14 = Delete Delete alt keycode 14 = Meta_Delete control keycode 53 = Delete VT6 wtopa-SuSE:/usr/lib/kbd/keytables$ grep BackSpace us.map NO OUTPUT!!!!! ____________________________________________________________________ Comparing the us.map to my old Slackware custom.map (which worked but with DEL: delete-char in the .inputrc) I see this difference> NOTE: custom.map is NOT loaded for these tests! -------------------------------------------------------------------- VT6 wtopa-SuSE:/usr/lib/kbd/keytables$ grep -i Backspace ~wtopa/1custom.map keycode 14 = BackSpace BackSpace control keycode 14 = BackSpace VT6 wtopa-SuSE:/usr/lib/kbd/keytables$ grep -i Delete ~wtopa/1custom.map control keycode 9 = Delete #keycode 14 = Delete Delete alt keycode 14 = Meta_Delete control keycode 53 = Delete shift control keycode 53 = Delete keycode 111 = Delete Delete alt keycode 111 = Meta_Delete VT6 wtopa-SuSE:/usr/lib/kbd/keytables$ -- "You must realize that the computer has it in for you. The irrefutable proof of this is that the computer always does what you tell it to do." _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: chmod & PPP-on/off
by jonathanj＠allant.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Albert Janssen wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 07:34:12PM +0100, Jim Hatridge wrote: > > I have been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp files. I can run > > ppp-on from "hatridge", but it gives me a "connect script failed" error > > and stops. What should I do? > > 1 of the things is: chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd And would someone tell me what "+s" is ?? Does linux have some new form of the chmod? Just curious as I don't see it on the sun and my linux box is at home. Jonathan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

On Feb 13, 7:22am, Tom Schaefer wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2 > > Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > > > I would like to start by thanking everybody for pointing me to places > > where I could download Staroffice.. > > > > However, I have a corrupt installation script ("setup").. > > I would appreciate it very much if someone could send me a working script........ > > > > Thank you very much in advance. > > I bought Caldera's Open Linux 1.1 back around June of '97 and they included a Star > Office CD as part of the bundle. > > What a waste. You're better off spending a few dollars for Applixware or Word > Perfect. I cooould not get Star Office to install at all! I fiddled with the rpm's, > fiddled with config files - it was pure hell. > > Star Office poses no threat to any of the other office suites or word processors. > There is no point in putting yourself through the agony. > > -tks- > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Tom Schaefer I would beg to differ with you on this. I also went the exact route outlined above and agree with it 100%. But, only as far as it goes. If I recall correctly I did get StarOffice installed and running, however, I blew it away and went the Applix and WordPerfect Route. I did not like the appearance of documnets produced by Star Office 3.1. I managed to get version 4.0 downloaded last week and it is a differnet ballgame than 3.1. Understand that I haven't had a lot of time to work with it, but it appears that they have made some big strides to improve the suite. There are still some things that I want to examine further before passing judgement on it, but at this time it looks fairly good. As I see it today, it is a large and powerfull office suite, perhaps a little overwhelming at first. I have found the help files to be fairly complete -- at least to get one comfortable with the interface and begin working. IMHO, this is a second or third generation product that has been improved a lot, and the price for an individual user is right -- free. It is a mega download -- almost 46M, but worth a look. Cheers, Frank -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Werner Sorry, I meant to say thet the Delete key on the Console now works like the Backspace key. It deletes the character to the LEFT of the cursor. The both work correctly in an Xterm. Wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 11:54:48PM +0100 In reply to:Dr. Werner Fink Quoting Dr. Werner Fink(werner(a)suse.de): > > > > > > Hubert > > > > Well I have found the file that is causing a problem. .inputrc. > > > > To make the Delete key work as it should ( delete the character the > > cursor is on) I have in, .inputrc, the following line > > DEL: delete-char > > PLEASE do not use a ~/.inputrc ... the full stuff is done in /etc/inputrc > .... for the xterm with its used settings in > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm (VT100*Translations) > > (here is the place I've changed DEL to the common ANSI sequenz \033[3~ and > BackSpace to to the good old \127 also known as DEL in ASCII code) > > The changes are reflected in terminfo/termcap, /etc/inputrc, /etc/csh.cshrc, > /etc/vimrc, emacs, xemacs, /etc/skel/.exrc, /usr/lib/mc/mc.lib, and > /etc/lesskey.bin. > > > > > If I put the .inputrc file in the new users dir, they NOW have the same > > problem, so this is the offending file. > > > > I had other lines to make Home & End work but SuSE seems to have taken > > care of that (in us.map ?). > > > > Anyway, with that DEL line in there the console works fine. BUT, the > > xterm BackSpace key does not. If I remove .inputrc ( or comment out > > the DEL line) the console delete key doesn't work BUT the BackSpace > > key does work in Xterm! All the .X* and .x* files are now from /etc/skel. > > All Slackware files have been removed and/or had their filenames changed. > > > > I am curious why no-one else has reported this. > > Hmmm ... I've done a well-considered work to catch the full keyboard stuff. > With new files in /etc/skel/ may break this ;^) > > > > > It seems that SuSE has really done a good job in setting up the > > keyboard file. 990f the customization I had made to my custom.map > > has already been done by SuSE! Ctrl-Alt Keypad # to switch consoles, > > etc. I do NOT need my custom.map file at all now! You guys have done a > > good job on that. You might want to let people know that they don't > > have to go thrugh all that work, because you already have! > > > > Now, so I don't mess up anything SuSE has already done, where do you > > suggest I make changes to allow the Delete key to work in the console > > and the BackSpace key to work in Xterm? > > Please do not change this. Use the package xlogin written by me for > remote logins via xterm. This gives to skript: xlogin and xtelnet > both with man page. xlogin start a remote xterm on the locale display with > the remote shell with the remote terminfo/termcap description valid for the > remote xterm. xtelnet says what you have to do to tell applications > what they have to do for \127 ... > > stty erase ^\? > > (^? == Ctrl-? == \127). > > The traditional usage of BackSpace (Ctrl-H or \010) is `back one space' > .... one reason why emacs ignores the terminfo/termcap entry for the key > BackSpace ... Ctrl-H is help in emacs. This control sequence is also > used by `man' to overstrike or underline characters ... just like a > good old telex machine (for which ASCII was defined:). > > Note that the xterm has two distinct keyboard settings: one for applications > and one for the shell. The terminfo/termcap describes the application > mode (try Ctrl-Button2 : `Enable Application Cursor Key' and > `Enable Application Keypad' and you get an extended vt220) ... to handle the > normal mode (an extended vt100) I'm using /etc/inputrc and /etc/csh.cshrc. > /etc/inputrc handels also the application mode to make all readline using > applications happy. > > > > Werner > > -- > Dr. Werner Fink -- S.u.S.E. GmbH, Gebhardtstr. 2, 90762 Fuerth, Germany > mail:werner@suse.de <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A">http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A</A>> fax:+49-911-3206727 > Click <A HREF="<A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A">http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A</A>>">here</A> > ------ Hiroshima '45 ----- Chernobyl '86 ----- Windows '95 ----- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- The Softwære said "Windows 95 or better", so I dumped Win95 & loaded LINUX. I have not looked back since. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: help with Xbanner
by andyford＠fastrans.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Dr. Werner Fink wrote: > > > > > Well look. Here goes andy replying to himself AGAIN :) > > So in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 there's a line that says > > # not reached > > and guess where xbanner was? that's right andy, after that. > > brilliant. Now I got the extra coolest login screen ever! > > Course I still dont know why it doesn't "get reached". > > Must be the "exec /usr/X11R6/bin/xconsole -geometry > > 480x130-0-0 \ > > -daemon -notify -nostdin -verbose -exitOnFail". > > But why? > > ... there is no /etc/X11/xdm/ in S.u.S.E. Linux. > Please use the traditional UNIX[tm] paths: > > /usr/lib/X11/xdm/ > > or for XFree86[tm] > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/ actually I used to use the real path till i found this symbolic link; must have come from the "eazy" pkg because it sure is. > > (hmmm ... maybe I should use symbolic links to catch the FHS ... > but IMHO FHS should not ignore traditional xdm paths) > > Note: `exec' is a shell builtin which execute the following program > without forking ... this close bash and starts the program > with the pid of the former bash. With this line I control > a error exit value of xconsole. OOOOOhhhhh I see. So I think the bottom line is that the Xbanner RPM needs to be changed because it puts it's startup line in the wrong pace: after the "exec xconsole" line. I dunno what the solution would be because it's probably too dangerous to have a RPM writing to anything but the end of an important script (<---guess) -- yours, Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by netd＠fastrans.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

vic wrote: > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > > phillip mannie wrote: > > > > > Thanks to everyone for your ideas and advice...I did the deed and > > > thought a report might be at least mildly interesting as I chose to use > > > YaST. > > > > > > In retrospect, I believe that fdisk, mke2fs, edit /etc/fstab would be the > > > ideal way to proceed, as Michael and Tom suggested. > > > > Open systems - or even a > > character based tool to just "get it done" and report the results.[...] > > > > (if any) unexpected stuff might occur. > > > > > > > Start with the man pages ... and the SuSE web/html based help pages are a > > good resource too ... > > > > -tks- > > > > -- > I can understand the benefit of having barebones control over system > operation, yet, it is also important for newbies to get into the > operational(functional) > level of Linux as soon as possible, and the automated setup techniques > are a great way to get up and running with a minimal amount of doc flood and > without having to start out with "a Master of Computer Science degree", as my > wintel/net-geek college put it when on a discussion about setting up > Linux.There will (I > guess)be many opportunities in the future for gaining perception down to the > machine level of exactly what is going on ... > -- True .. very true ... it should not require a "pilot's license" to install Linux, and thanks to distributors like SuSE, we can all enjoy a great deal of automation - which definitely helps the newbie. The ability to get in and fix things with a simple text editor has great appeal to me, something you can't really do in the Microsloth world any more. I pray the Linux community doesn't try to imitate the Windows Registry, and all the problems it adds. My credo is simple, "SIMPLIFY", i.e. if things can be done simply, then that should be the rule. Over-engineering irritates and annoys me. Some examples of over-engineering include the RPM system. Invoking RPM commands is still not as simple as it could be with simple shell scripts! In some ways, the GNU configure system is better, but since I'm not an expert on either, I am subject to what ever is being implemented. It looks like the RPM system is becoming the defacto standard in the Linux community. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] test, Hello all
by hettar＠teleport.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Hello World, [SuSE] I recently bought an 'Ultra Wide Adaptec 2940'. Useing aic7xxx4.1.1 that came with SuSE 5.1, (normal lilo bootup) it fails with: scsi0: Scanning channel A for devices scsi:aborting command due to time out: pid 0 scsi 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 scsi host 0 abort(pid0) timedout-resetting scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 "" "" a few more times with like .......trying harder.... scsi host probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang. Now whats up with that? When: 1)a SuSE Distro boot disk (its the only way I can even boot my linux box now) a) will load kernel module aic7xxx and dectect everything just fine. What would be the (sigh) difference of the SuSE distros boot disk aic7xxx kernel than, the kernel that SuSE loaded up for me?? When I picked aic7xxx to be installed........ Now I have been for the past few days talking with Doug Ledford (dledford(a)dialnet.net) He suggested a few things, including getting patches to the aic7xxx module for 2.0.33kernel. at ftp.dialnet.net -the current version of aic7xxx is 5.0.5 and SuSE5.1 came with 4.1.1/3.2.1 These patches DO NOT apply cleanly to 2.0.33(pre33SuSE.3) (or something) but do apply cleanly to 2.0.33 out-of-the-box kernel. put the 5.0.0 patch on then the 5.0.0 to 5.0.1 and so on or just 5.0.5patch.gz Well all of this didn't work either. I need to know if there is more info that what I have to correct this. things are that everything 1) works fine and detects when booting from SuSE distros boot disk (I hope Idont loose this)!! 2)windows(ick)95 detects everything and works 3) so I don't think it is a termination problem 4) and I dunno Steven Udelhoffen hettar(a)teleport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] aic7xxx 'ultra wide 2940 adaptec scsi card'
by hettar＠teleport.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Hello World, [SuSE] I recently bought an 'Ultra Wide Adaptec 2940'. Useing aic7xxx4.1.1 that came with SuSE 5.1, (normal lilo bootup) it fails with: scsi0: Scanning channel A for devices scsi:aborting command due to time out: pid 0 scsi 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 scsi host 0 abort(pid0) timedout-resetting scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 "" "" a few more times with like .......trying harder.... scsi host probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang. Now whats up with that? When: 1)a SuSE Distro boot disk (its the only way I can even boot my linux box now) a) will load kernel module aic7xxx and dectect everything just fine. What would be the (sigh) difference of the SuSE distros boot disk aic7xxx kernel than, the kernel that SuSE loaded up for me?? When I picked aic7xxx to be installed........ Now I have been for the past few days talking with Doug Ledford (dledford(a)dialnet.net) He suggested a few things, including getting patches to the aic7xxx module for 2.0.33kernel. at ftp.dialnet.net -the current version of aic7xxx is 5.0.5 and SuSE5.1 came with 4.1.1/3.2.1 These patches DO NOT apply cleanly to 2.0.33(pre33SuSE.3) (or something) but do apply cleanly to 2.0.33 out-of-the-box kernel. put the 5.0.0 patch on then the 5.0.0 to 5.0.1 and so on or just 5.0.5patch.gz Well all of this didn't work either. I need to know if there is more info that what I have to correct this. things are that everything 1) works fine and detects when booting from SuSE distros boot disk (I hope Idont loose this)!! 2)windows(ick)95 detects everything and works 3) so I don't think it is a termination problem 4) and I dunno Steven Udelhoffen hettar(a)teleport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] was: Bash Redialer now: rc.firewall.on
by netd＠fastrans.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Jonathan Markevich wrote: > Please let me know if you can see any improvements. I am just learning shell > scripting! > You're a helluva lot better than I''ll ever be!Perhaps this will compliment your ppp script ... Here's a modified firewall script. I downloaded this script a while back from a MASQ page on the net - sorry I don't know who actually wrote it, but it seems to work fine. I run this after the link is up, and it does a nice job. The main modification is that it automatically detects the ppp0 address, which is handy for those who have dynamic IP addresses. If anyone finds fault with it, please let me know. There's nothing worse than a crappy firewall script! The only thing I haven't added yet is a way to kick this script after an automatic redial. ppp 2.3.0 redials automatically just fine, and will accomplish 900f the time that which Jonathan's script is doing. Since I'm somewhat limited on time, I haven't figured out what signal it takes to "kick" it into redial, other than the fact that if the connection is terminated by the other end, it starts redialing nicely. And of course, you're all wondering why I don't use the SuSE supplied firewall/MASQ scripts, it's like anything else - you use what you know works. I haven't had time to read the docs and test their scripts, as I'm not sure what some of the values are in rc.config. -tks- #!/bin/sh # PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin # # For dynamic addresses, this little awk routine from Tim Schaefer # (<A HREF="http://www.inxutil.com"><A HREF="http://www.inxutil.com</A">http://www.inxutil.com</A</A>> tschaefe(a)mindspring.com) # extracts the dynamic IP address from the output of netconfig. # REMOTE=`ifconfig -a | awk ' /^ppp0/,/overruns/ { print $0 } ' | awk ' /inet/ { print $2 } ' | se # # The same script is used to detrmine the LAN address for the firewall machine. # LOCAL=`ifconfig -a | awk ' /^eth0/,/overruns/ { print $0 } ' | awk ' /inet/ { print $2 } ' | sed # echo "Local IP is now: $LOCAL" echo "Remote IP is now: $REMOTE" # echo "Setting Incoming, flush and set default policy of deny" # Actually the default policy # is irrelevant because there is a catch all rule with deny and log. ipfwadm -I -f ipfwadm -I -p deny echo "... local interface, local machines, going anywhere is valid " ipfwadm -I -a accept -V $LOCAL -S $LOCAL/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 echo " ... remote interface, claiming to be local machines, IP spoofing, BYE! " ipfwadm -I -a deny -V $REMOTE -S $LOCAL/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -o echo " ... remote interface, any source, going to permanent PPP address is valid " ipfwadm -I -a accept -V $REMOTE -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D $REMOTE/32 echo " ... loopback interface is valid..." ipfwadm -I -a accept -V 127.0.0.1 -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D 0.0.0.0/0 echo " ... catch all rule, all other incoming is denied and logged" # pity there is no # log option on the policy but this does the job instead. ipfwadm -I -a deny -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -o echo "Setting Outgoing, flush and set default policy of deny" # Actually the default policy # is irrelevant because there is a catch all rule with deny and log. ipfwadm -O -f ipfwadm -O -p deny echo " ... local interface, any source going to local net is valid " ipfwadm -O -a accept -V $LOCAL -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D $LOCAL/24 echo " ... outgoing to local net on remote interface, stuffed routing, deny " ipfwadm -O -a deny -V $REMOTE -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D $LOCAL/24 -o echo " ... outgoing from local net on remote interface, stuffed masquerading, deny" ipfwadm -O -a deny -V $REMOTE -S $LOCAL/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -o echo " ... outgoing from local net on remote interface, stuffed masquerading, deny" ipfwadm -O -a deny -V $REMOTE -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D $LOCAL/24 -o echo " ... anything else outgoing on remote interface is valid " ipfwadm -O -a accept -V $REMOTE -S $REMOTE/32 -D 0.0.0.0/0 echo " ... loopback interface is valid " ipfwadm -O -a accept -V 127.0.0.1 -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D 0.0.0.0/0 echo " ... catch all rule, all other outgoing is denied and logged" # pity there is no echo " ... log option on the policy but this does the job instead" ipfwadm -O -a deny -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -o # echo "Setting Forwarding, flush and set default policy of deny" # Actually the default policy # is irrelevant because there is a catch all rule with deny and log. ipfwadm -F -f ipfwadm -F -p deny # echo "Seting Masquerade from local net on local interface to anywhere " ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -W ppp0 -S $LOCAL/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 echo " ... catch all rule, all other forwarding is denied and logged " ipfwadm -F -a deny -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -o -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] test, Hello all
by bennie＠xs4all.nl 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

I beleive "Hello world!" is customary... B@N On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 05:04:11 -0800 Steven Udell <hettar(a)teleport.com> wrote: > > suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > test to see if I can send messgaes, hello all > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________ Benjamin van Ruyssevelt ICQ 4739669 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] test, Hello all
by hettar＠teleport.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

suse-linux-e(a)suse.com test to see if I can send messgaes, hello all -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: help with Xbanner
by werner＠suse.de 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

> > Well look. Here goes andy replying to himself AGAIN :) > So in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 there's a line that says > # not reached > and guess where xbanner was? that's right andy, after that. > brilliant. Now I got the extra coolest login screen ever! > Course I still dont know why it doesn't "get reached". > Must be the "exec /usr/X11R6/bin/xconsole -geometry > 480x130-0-0 \ > -daemon -notify -nostdin -verbose -exitOnFail". > But why? ... there is no /etc/X11/xdm/ in S.u.S.E. Linux. Please use the traditional UNIX[tm] paths: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/ or for XFree86[tm] /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/ (hmmm ... maybe I should use symbolic links to catch the FHS ... but IMHO FHS should not ignore traditional xdm paths) Note: `exec' is a shell builtin which execute the following program without forking ... this close bash and starts the program with the pid of the former bash. With this line I control a error exit value of xconsole. Note2: xconsole opens the physical console to show all messages catch by the running X server (try `echo test > /dev/console'). If your using xdm (runlevel 3) the most time you can change /etc/syslog.conf to show the system messages not on the virtual console number 10 but on the physical console (which is identical with a running X server). Werner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by werner＠suse.de 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

> > Werner > > With the ~/.inputrc file removed the Xterm works correctly. Delete, > BackSpace, Home and end work as they should. The problem is, as I > stated below, on the console the Delete key does not work > correctly. The Delete key deletes the character to the right of the > cursor rather then the character the cursor is on. This is the reason > I added "Del: delete-char" to the .inputrc file in my home directory. Hmmm ... it seems to a bug in the console map. You can test this by using Ctrl-V and pressing BackSpace, this should give ^? the same for Delete ... Ctrl-V and pressing Delete should give ^[[3~ (^? is \127 also known as DEL and ^[ is \033 also known as ESC). > > I did not expect for all the keys to work in X and am happy that you > have done all the work required to make them work. I do, however, > want to get the console Delete key to work. I had already done all > this for the Slackware distribution and had everything working > correctly. I am now 99% there except for that darn Delete key! > > I will load the xlogin and xtelnet packages and read up on them. > If I understand you correctly, you think that the keyboard is working > correctly and I should leave it as is. Or that there may be some file > in /etc/skel that has changed something. I am sorry if I have > mis-understood you. Please have a look into your map file in /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/. Note that on linux console the keycode of BackSpace key should repeat the ASCII-DEL character and the keycode of the Delete key should repeat the ANSI-DELETE-CHAR sequence (also known as Remove). With this mapping the /etc/inputrc works: home/werner> grep delete /etc/inputrc "\e[3~": delete-char # do `backward-delete-char' # Note: `delete-char' is maped to \033[3~ "\C-?": backward-delete-char "\C-H": backward-delete-char (\C-? is identical with ^?) Werner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2
by netd＠fastrans.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > I would like to start by thanking everybody for pointing me to places > where I could download Staroffice.. > > However, I have a corrupt installation script ("setup").. > I would appreciate it very much if someone could send me a working script........ > > Thank you very much in advance. I bought Caldera's Open Linux 1.1 back around June of '97 and they included a Star Office CD as part of the bundle. What a waste. You're better off spending a few dollars for Applixware or Word Perfect. I cooould not get Star Office to install at all! I fiddled with the rpm's, fiddled with config files - it was pure hell. Star Office poses no threat to any of the other office suites or word processors. There is no point in putting yourself through the agony. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2
by bennie＠xs4all.nl 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

I would like to start by thanking everybody for pointing me to places where I could download Staroffice.. However, I have a corrupt installation script ("setup").. I would appreciate it very much if someone could send me a working script........ Thank you very much in advance. B@N -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SLRN - some answers and display notes
by mperry＠basin.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Hi- I wrote some email to the developer of slrn (JED) abotu color support in rxvt terminals and he told me about one setting guaranteed to make one see flashing lites - namely set use_blink 1. This will realy light up your rxvt terminal if you use slrn. One note, JED has released a version which seems to have more consistant color support and uses the latest version of slang also. Other options I have discovered include tweaking colors and including something like: normal black default as one color choice in your .slrnrc file. This works quite nicely and does not provide a really bright interface. If you do not want white backgrounds, you can experiment with different normal color settings also. These are just some basic ideas about using slrn. I think slrn is a really cool news application and its a lot of fun finding out more about what makes it tick. Note that the most current version of slrn 0946 requires the slang 1.0.3 libs. These compile without complaint on my SuSE 5.1 system, BTW. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Werner With the ~/.inputrc file removed the Xterm works correctly. Delete, BackSpace, Home and end work as they should. The problem is, as I stated below, on the console the Delete key does not work correctly. The Delete key deletes the character to the right of the cursor rather then the character the cursor is on. This is the reason I added "Del: delete-char" to the .inputrc file in my home directory. I did not expect for all the keys to work in X and am happy that you have done all the work required to make them work. I do, however, want to get the console Delete key to work. I had already done all this for the Slackware distribution and had everything working correctly. I am now 99% there except for that darn Delete key! I will load the xlogin and xtelnet packages and read up on them. If I understand you correctly, you think that the keyboard is working correctly and I should leave it as is. Or that there may be some file in /etc/skel that has changed something. I am sorry if I have mis-understood you. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 11:54:48PM +0100 In reply to:Dr. Werner Fink Quoting Dr. Werner Fink(werner(a)suse.de): > > > > > > Hubert > > > > Well I have found the file that is causing a problem. .inputrc. > > > > To make the Delete key work as it should ( delete the character the > > cursor is on) I have in, .inputrc, the following line > > DEL: delete-char > > PLEASE do not use a ~/.inputrc ... the full stuff is done in /etc/inputrc > .... for the xterm with its used settings in > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm (VT100*Translations) > > (here is the place I've changed DEL to the common ANSI sequenz \033[3~ and > BackSpace to to the good old \127 also known as DEL in ASCII code) > > The changes are reflected in terminfo/termcap, /etc/inputrc, /etc/csh.cshrc, > /etc/vimrc, emacs, xemacs, /etc/skel/.exrc, /usr/lib/mc/mc.lib, and > /etc/lesskey.bin. > > > > > If I put the .inputrc file in the new users dir, they NOW have the same > > problem, so this is the offending file. > > > > I had other lines to make Home & End work but SuSE seems to have taken > > care of that (in us.map ?). > > > > Anyway, with that DEL line in there the console works fine. BUT, the > > xterm BackSpace key does not. If I remove .inputrc ( or comment out > > the DEL line) the console delete key doesn't work BUT the BackSpace > > key does work in Xterm! All the .X* and .x* files are now from /etc/skel. > > All Slackware files have been removed and/or had their filenames changed. > > > > I am curious why no-one else has reported this. > > Hmmm ... I've done a well-considered work to catch the full keyboard stuff. > With new files in /etc/skel/ may break this ;^) > > > > > It seems that SuSE has really done a good job in setting up the > > keyboard file. 990f the customization I had made to my custom.map > > has already been done by SuSE! Ctrl-Alt Keypad # to switch consoles, > > etc. I do NOT need my custom.map file at all now! You guys have done a > > good job on that. You might want to let people know that they don't > > have to go thrugh all that work, because you already have! > > > > Now, so I don't mess up anything SuSE has already done, where do you > > suggest I make changes to allow the Delete key to work in the console > > and the BackSpace key to work in Xterm? > > Please do not change this. Use the package xlogin written by me for > remote logins via xterm. This gives to skript: xlogin and xtelnet > both with man page. xlogin start a remote xterm on the locale display with > the remote shell with the remote terminfo/termcap description valid for the > remote xterm. xtelnet says what you have to do to tell applications > what they have to do for \127 ... > > stty erase ^\? > > (^? == Ctrl-? == \127). > > The traditional usage of BackSpace (Ctrl-H or \010) is `back one space' > .... one reason why emacs ignores the terminfo/termcap entry for the key > BackSpace ... Ctrl-H is help in emacs. This control sequence is also > used by `man' to overstrike or underline characters ... just like a > good old telex machine (for which ASCII was defined:). > > Note that the xterm has two distinct keyboard settings: one for applications > and one for the shell. The terminfo/termcap describes the application > mode (try Ctrl-Button2 : `Enable Application Cursor Key' and > `Enable Application Keypad' and you get an extended vt220) ... to handle the > normal mode (an extended vt100) I'm using /etc/inputrc and /etc/csh.cshrc. > /etc/inputrc handels also the application mode to make all readline using > applications happy. > > > > Werner > > -- > Dr. Werner Fink -- S.u.S.E. GmbH, Gebhardtstr. 2, 90762 Fuerth, Germany > mail:werner@suse.de <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A">http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A</A>> fax:+49-911-3206727 > Click <A HREF="<A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A">http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A</A>>">here</A> > ------ Hiroshima '45 ----- Chernobyl '86 ----- Windows '95 ----- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow enobled and none dare criticize it. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by vhearn＠wenet.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > > phillip mannie wrote: > > > Thanks to everyone for your ideas and advice...I did the deed and > > thought a report might be at least mildly interesting as I chose to use > > YaST. > > > > In retrospect, I believe that fdisk, mke2fs, edit /etc/fstab would be the > > ideal way to proceed, as Michael and Tom suggested. > > Open systems - or even a > character based tool to just "get it done" and report the results.[...] > > (if any) unexpected stuff might occur. > > > > Start with the man pages ... and the SuSE web/html based help pages are a > good resource too ... > > -tks- > > -- I can understand the benefit of having barebones control over system operation, yet, it is also important for newbies to get into the operational(functional) level of Linux as soon as possible, and the automated setup techniques are a great way to get up and running with a minimal amount of doc flood and without having to start out with "a Master of Computer Science degree", as my wintel/net-geek college put it when on a discussion about setting up Linux.There will (I guess)be many opportunities in the future for gaining perception down to the machine level of exactly what is going on ... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help with Xbanner
by andyford＠fastrans.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Andy Ford wrote: > > Hi All > > Has anyone gotten Xbanner to work on 5.1? I've installed it on > Slackware, Caldera, and even SuSE 4.4, but now I'm baffled. The lines in > the files in /etc/X11/xdm are all in their places and Xbanner even comes > up in the background when I call it from the command line, but it won't > come up with > xdm! > > Any ideas? > yours, > Andy > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Well look. Here goes andy replying to himself AGAIN :) So in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 there's a line that says # not reached and guess where xbanner was? that's right andy, after that. brilliant. Now I got the extra coolest login screen ever! Course I still dont know why it doesn't "get reached". Must be the "exec /usr/X11R6/bin/xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 \ -daemon -notify -nostdin -verbose -exitOnFail". But why? -- yours, Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mail coming from www.suse.com
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

Michael None of my mail is coming from that address, Michael. You must have got the interest of the HIGHER UP's. :-) Take care. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mail coming from www.suse.com Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 07:27:38PM -0800 In reply to:Michael Perry Quoting Michael Perry(mperry(a)basin.com): > > > I seem to be getting email from an address like suse-linux-e(a)www.suse.com. > Note the addition of the www in the mail address. Anyone know what is going on > here? > > > --Michael Perry-- > mperry(a)basin.com > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Flon's Law: There is not now, and never will be, a language in which it is the least bit difficult to write bad programs. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] mail coming from www.suse.com
by mperry＠basin.com 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

I seem to be getting email from an address like suse-linux-e(a)www.suse.com. Note the addition of the www in the mail address. Anyone know what is going on here? --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by humo＠fuzzyvibe.demon.nl 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 07:34:12PM +0100, Jim Hatridge wrote: Hi Jim, > I'm using S.u.S.E. 4.4.1 with a 486 33mhz. When I want to connect I must > run ppp-on from root (or su). But fetchpop / sendmail I can do from a user > name (i.e. hatridge). > > I have been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp files. I can run > ppp-on from "hatridge", but it gives me a "connect script failed" error > and stops. What should I do? 1 of the things is: chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd -- bye, greetings, Albert (Email: humo(a)FuzzyVibe.demon.nl ; Fido: 2:2801/307.74) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Bash Redialer
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 13 Feb '98

13 Feb '98

I thought I would return some effort to the list after all I got out of it, so... here's my suite of automatic redialer scripts. They ride on and depend on the PPP scripts that come with the distribution. ----script 1: multidial---- #!/bin/sh # This is a script to loop through the call to ppp-up until connected # or times out (about 5 minutes as coded here) # # Jonathan Markevich Feb 1998 # COUNTER=60 localip=0.0.0.0 remoteip= device=/dev/modem pppflags="57600 modem defaultroute" # Loop until PPP is established while [ ! -e /var/run/ppp0.pid ] do if test $COUNTER -gt 0 then # call ppp-up. If already running it will be # ignored. /etc/ppp/ppp-up sleep 5 let COUNTER=$COUNTER-1 continue else # exit with an error code exit 1 fi done # PPP has been established but wait until connection stabilizes. # Use YaST to set up your NNTPSERVER environment variable first! COUNTER=0 while ! ping -c 2 $NNTPSERVER &> /dev/null do sleep 1 if test $COUNTER -eq 60 then # Exit with error code after 60 seconds exit 1 fi let COUNTER=$COUNTER+1 done exit 0 --------------------------- ----script 2: maildial---- #!/bin/sh # braindead example script of how to use script 1 # Note: fetchpop is not a SuSE package! if /etc/ppp/multidial then # it worked! Transfer the mail. fetchpop -r -a sendmail -q /etc/ppp/ppp-down fi -------------------------- ----script 3: hangup---- #!/bin/sh # Just made to kill the dialing if it really needs it! kill -SIGINT `ps | grep "/usr/sbin/chat" | gawk '{ print $1 }'` ------------------------ Please let me know if you can see any improvements. I am just learning shell scripting! Thanks! --- Jonathan Markevich <jonathan(a)aracnet.net> "Here at the Phone Company, we serve all kinds of people; from Presidents and Kings to the scum of the earth ..." -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by werner＠suse.de 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

> > Hubert > > Well I have found the file that is causing a problem. .inputrc. > > To make the Delete key work as it should ( delete the character the > cursor is on) I have in, .inputrc, the following line > DEL: delete-char PLEASE do not use a ~/.inputrc ... the full stuff is done in /etc/inputrc ... for the xterm with its used settings in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm (VT100*Translations) (here is the place I've changed DEL to the common ANSI sequenz \033[3~ and BackSpace to to the good old \127 also known as DEL in ASCII code) The changes are reflected in terminfo/termcap, /etc/inputrc, /etc/csh.cshrc, /etc/vimrc, emacs, xemacs, /etc/skel/.exrc, /usr/lib/mc/mc.lib, and /etc/lesskey.bin. > > If I put the .inputrc file in the new users dir, they NOW have the same > problem, so this is the offending file. > > I had other lines to make Home & End work but SuSE seems to have taken > care of that (in us.map ?). > > Anyway, with that DEL line in there the console works fine. BUT, the > xterm BackSpace key does not. If I remove .inputrc ( or comment out > the DEL line) the console delete key doesn't work BUT the BackSpace > key does work in Xterm! All the .X* and .x* files are now from /etc/skel. > All Slackware files have been removed and/or had their filenames changed. > > I am curious why no-one else has reported this. Hmmm ... I've done a well-considered work to catch the full keyboard stuff. With new files in /etc/skel/ may break this ;^) > > It seems that SuSE has really done a good job in setting up the > keyboard file. 990f the customization I had made to my custom.map > has already been done by SuSE! Ctrl-Alt Keypad # to switch consoles, > etc. I do NOT need my custom.map file at all now! You guys have done a > good job on that. You might want to let people know that they don't > have to go thrugh all that work, because you already have! > > Now, so I don't mess up anything SuSE has already done, where do you > suggest I make changes to allow the Delete key to work in the console > and the BackSpace key to work in Xterm? Please do not change this. Use the package xlogin written by me for remote logins via xterm. This gives to skript: xlogin and xtelnet both with man page. xlogin start a remote xterm on the locale display with the remote shell with the remote terminfo/termcap description valid for the remote xterm. xtelnet says what you have to do to tell applications what they have to do for \127 ... stty erase ^\? (^? == Ctrl-? == \127). The traditional usage of BackSpace (Ctrl-H or \010) is `back one space' ... one reason why emacs ignores the terminfo/termcap entry for the key BackSpace ... Ctrl-H is help in emacs. This control sequence is also used by `man' to overstrike or underline characters ... just like a good old telex machine (for which ASCII was defined:). Note that the xterm has two distinct keyboard settings: one for applications and one for the shell. The terminfo/termcap describes the application mode (try Ctrl-Button2 : `Enable Application Cursor Key' and `Enable Application Keypad' and you get an extended vt220) ... to handle the normal mode (an extended vt100) I'm using /etc/inputrc and /etc/csh.cshrc. /etc/inputrc handels also the application mode to make all readline using applications happy. Werner -- Dr. Werner Fink -- S.u.S.E. GmbH, Gebhardtstr. 2, 90762 Fuerth, Germany mail:werner@suse.de <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A">http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A</A>> fax:+49-911-3206727 Click <A HREF="<A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A">http://www.suse.de/~werner/</A</A>>">here</A> ------ Hiroshima '45 ----- Chernobyl '86 ----- Windows '95 ----- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] CORRECTION TkInfo & Cron.daily !!
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <19980211152522.27232(a)ix.netcom.com>; from wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com on Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 03:25:22PM -0500 CORRECTION TkInfo NOT Tkman!! Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Tkman errors & cron.daily Date: Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 03:25:22PM -0500 In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > Just installed TkInfo from the SuSE 5.1 CD's. It complained about no > whatis databases. Ran makewhatis manually and now only get the error > "/usr/man/preformat -- doesn't exist" > > Question: As I have REINIT=yes in rc.config, I expected the SuSE > system to take care of the man updates. I find that IF cron.daily ran > this would be the case. In root/bin/cron.daily: > > # cron.daily. This script is executed as a cron-job in the > # early morning-hours. Please add your local changes to > # cron.daily.local > # since this file will be overwritten, when updating your system. > # > > BUT I find the following in /sbin/init.d/boot > > # The following script is executed at boot-up and also from a > # cron-entry > # # in the early morning. So your system should be checked often > # enough. > #if test -x /root/bin/cron.daily; then > # /root/bin/cron.daily > #fi > > As this entry is commented out in the file I assume that SuSE does not > want cron.daily run(?). If that is the case (?) what is the purpose of > cron.daily? Should I go back to putting all of this type of daily > job in my crontab or is it OK to just uncomment the cron.daily call in > /sbin/init.d/boot and then call that from a cron job? > > As the book has no information on the cron.daily.local file format, could > someone give an example as the how the entries in this file should > look. Should that be added as in a normal crontab file or as in a > script file? > > Has the /usr/man/preformat/cat1 .... directory been replaced by > something else in SuSE? (I see that the Live file system is lacking > the preformat directry as well.) If so, could you please tell me what I > should use so that I can get rid of that TkInfo error message. > > Sorry for the questions but SuSE has introduced (at least to me), a > few new ways to do things and I would like to do it the SuSE way in > this setup. > > wayne > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Linux - for those that deserve the Very Best! _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP-on/off
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Jim FYI -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 998 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-off -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 413 Jan 31 00:05 /usr/sbin/ppp-up -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dialout 83856 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7792 Nov 30 07:14 /usr/sbin/pppstats -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158 Jan 30 23:47 /etc/ppp/ppp.chat lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 12 14:18 /dev/modem -> /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root uucp 4, 64 Feb 12 14:25 /dev/ttyS0 All users are assigned to both uucp and dialout groups. HTH Wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP-on/off Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 07:34:12PM +0100 In reply to:Jim Hatridge Quoting Jim Hatridge(hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de): > > > Hi all, > > I'm using S.u.S.E. 4.4.1 with a 486 33mhz. When I want to connect I must > run ppp-on from root (or su). But fetchpop / sendmail I can do from a user > name (i.e. hatridge). > > I have been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp files. I can run > ppp-on from "hatridge", but it gives me a "connect script failed" error > and stops. What should I do? > > > > Thanks > > > > JIM > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > James Hatridge > Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" > German Stamps > >From Germany About Germany In English! > email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Our OS who art in CPU, UNIX be thy name. Thy programs run, thy syscalls done, In kernel as it is in user! _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: staroffice
by m.zieger＠kem.ac.at 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

At 18:45 12.02.98 +0100, brauki(a)cww.de wrote: >Thank you, but I had not. >So let's come back to the original question: >Does anybody know the full original or an alternative address? >Is there, as there was before with 3.1 an "update file" for those rich >enough to afford the previous 50MB download? I don't know if it's the newest version, but I think on <A HREF="ftp://sirius.kem.ac.at/"><A HREF="ftp://sirius.kem.ac.at/</A">ftp://sirius.kem.ac.at/</A</A>> you can get the english version of StarOffice40. There's also a video of Bill Gates & the cake in his face. have fun, mike // Michael Zieger // Looking for _FREE_ Website & e-mail? // <A HREF="http://forfree.at"><A HREF="http://forfree.at</A">http://forfree.at</A</A>> // Send mail with subject "get pgpkey" to get my key! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP-on/off
by gecko＠freecar.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Try setting to "group" off all your ppp-on, ppp-off, redialer and any other script to "dialout" and adding your user names to the dialout group. And chmod the scripts to 750. If you want ANYBODY to beable to start PPP, change then chmod the scripts to 755 On 12-Feb-98 Jim Hatridge wrote: > been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp fil ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Hubert One more twist. In an rxvt the Backspace key DOES work even with the .inputrc file ( but not in an xterm). However the Home & End keys, which work in an xterm, do Not work in rxvt. Oh what a terrible web we weave. wayne Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 11:43:56AM -0500 In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > Hubert > > Well I have found the file that is causing a problem. .inputrc. > > To make the Delete key work as it should ( delete the character the > cursor is on) I have in, .inputrc, the following line > DEL: delete-char > > If I put the .inputrc file in the new users dir, they NOW have the same > problem, so this is the offending file. > > I had other lines to make Home & End work but SuSE seems to have taken > care of that (in us.map ?). > > Anyway, with that DEL line in there the console works fine. BUT, the > xterm BackSpace key does not. If I remove .inputrc ( or comment out > the DEL line) the console delete key doesn't work BUT the BackSpace > key does work in Xterm! All the .X* and .x* files are now from /etc/skel. > All Slackware files have been removed and/or had their filenames changed. > > I am curious why no-one else has reported this. > > It seems that SuSE has really done a good job in setting up the > keyboard file. 990f the customization I had made to my custom.map > has already been done by SuSE! Ctrl-Alt Keypad # to switch consoles, > etc. I do NOT need my custom.map file at all now! You guys have done a > good job on that. You might want to let people know that they don't > have to go thrugh all that work, because you already have! > > Now, so I don't mess up anything SuSE has already done, where do you > suggest I make changes to allow the Delete key to work in the console > and the BackSpace key to work in Xterm? > > Thanks for getting me out of the forest so that I could see the trees. > > wayne > > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. > Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 11:27:15AM +0100 > > In reply to:Hubert Mantel > > Quoting Hubert Mantel(mantel(a)suse.de): > > > > > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > > > Sirs: > > > > > > I have tried all the usual tricks to get Backspace to work in Xterm. > > > > > > in .xinitrc > > > xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace' > > > > > > xmodmap <<-EOF > > > keycode 22 = Backspace osfBackSpace > > > keycode 107 = Delete > > > EOF > > > > > > in .Xresources > > > XTterm*ttyModes: erase ^? kill ^U intr ^C auit ^\ eof ^D \ > > > susp ^Z start ^Q stop ^S elo ^@ > > > note: ^H does work. > > > > > > I have NOT tried to change anything (yet) in app-defaults/XTerm as > > > my German is not good enough to figure out the comments on BackSpace. > > > > > > > > > The above are all from the HOWTO and do not work. Could you please > > > advise how someone with a us keyboard get the BacksSpace to function > > > in an X XTerm. I have it working fine in the console. > > > > I do have an US keyboard (I do not like the german layout) and all keys > > work as expected after a fresh install. Maybe you updated your system and > > have some old config files around which redefine the keys? > > Are you having the same problem with a sample user? Maybe you have an old > > ..inputrc or something else? Are other programs affected or only xterm? > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > wayne > > > > Hubert > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > . > > -- > Pascal, n.: > A programming language named after a man who would turn over in > his grave if he knew about it. > _______________________________________________________ > Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- The fortune program is supported, in part, by user contributions and by a major grant from the National Endowment for the Inanities. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP-on/off
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Hi all, I'm using S.u.S.E. 4.4.1 with a 486 33mhz. When I want to connect I must run ppp-on from root (or su). But fetchpop / sendmail I can do from a user name (i.e. hatridge). I have been playing with the permissions and owners of the ppp files. I can run ppp-on from "hatridge", but it gives me a "connect script failed" error and stops. What should I do? Thanks JIM ----------------------------------------- James Hatridge Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" German Stamps From Germany About Germany In English! email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Hubert (1) I had been having trouble executing in X, the following line: color_xterm -sb -sl 500 -j -ls -fn 7x14 -fb 7x14bold -title "Color xterm" & Yes it is a Slackware carryover. Duh, finally realized that this line ( which was non-color in Slackware) xterm -sb -sl 500 -j -ls -fn 7x14 & was giving me a color xterm in SuSE! (2) As I would rather use rxvt then xterm, I loaded it from the CD. when I try rxvt -fn 10x20 -ls & I get: /dev/ttyp4: Operation not permitted setterm: Could not find termcap entry for xterm-color. setterm: Could not find termcap entry for xterm-color. VTp4 wtopa-SuSE:~$ So SuSE is NOT using termcap for xterm color. Something different is being used. OK, not knowing what, I tried rxvt -fn 10x20 & which does work for rxvt in Non-color mode. So my questions are: How do I get a Non-Color xterm, and a Color-rxvt to work? BTW, I am writing this from the user with .inputrc in it. The Backspace key does not work on the xterm command line but DOES work in this Mutt (vim) mail. The Home & End keys, which work on the xterm command line DO NOT work here in the Mutt (vim) program. Strange combination of events, isn't it. Wayne -- In English, every word can be verbed. Would that it were so in our programming languages. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice
by brauki＠cww.de 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

[still Staroffice 4.0] >>> >>> Who has a comprehensive list of Staroffice mirror sites. I have been >>> trying to download Staroffice 40 desperately for the pas WEEK, and i >>> have failed. I need more mirrors...Please >>> >> > > try <A HREF="ftp://sunsite.uio.no"><A HREF="ftp://sunsite.uio.no</A">ftp://sunsite.uio.no</A</A>>. > > Gook luck. > Thank you, but I had not. So let's come back to the original question: Does anybody know the full original or an alternative address? Is there, as there was before with 3.1 an "update file" for those rich enough to afford the previous 50MB download? Thank to everyone in advance Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cde and coolmail
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Michael Perry wrote: > > Just started playing around with cde and would like to know if anyone else is > using it on the list. Curious about how to get the button bar to swallow up > coolmail so it shows me when email comes in. Kinda like what the default fvwm2 > button bar does. > i'm assuming that you are talking about the CDE-like interface that ships with suse. it is really fvwm2. try looking in the fvwmrc that controls the cde-like look-and-feel for either goodstuff (that's what it used to be in fvwm) or warf. maybe this will help. -jeremy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Hubert Well I have found the file that is causing a problem. .inputrc. To make the Delete key work as it should ( delete the character the cursor is on) I have in, .inputrc, the following line DEL: delete-char If I put the .inputrc file in the new users dir, they NOW have the same problem, so this is the offending file. I had other lines to make Home & End work but SuSE seems to have taken care of that (in us.map ?). Anyway, with that DEL line in there the console works fine. BUT, the xterm BackSpace key does not. If I remove .inputrc ( or comment out the DEL line) the console delete key doesn't work BUT the BackSpace key does work in Xterm! All the .X* and .x* files are now from /etc/skel. All Slackware files have been removed and/or had their filenames changed. I am curious why no-one else has reported this. It seems that SuSE has really done a good job in setting up the keyboard file. 990f the customization I had made to my custom.map has already been done by SuSE! Ctrl-Alt Keypad # to switch consoles, etc. I do NOT need my custom.map file at all now! You guys have done a good job on that. You might want to let people know that they don't have to go thrugh all that work, because you already have! Now, so I don't mess up anything SuSE has already done, where do you suggest I make changes to allow the Delete key to work in the console and the BackSpace key to work in Xterm? Thanks for getting me out of the forest so that I could see the trees. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 11:27:15AM +0100 In reply to:Hubert Mantel Quoting Hubert Mantel(mantel(a)suse.de): > > > Hi, > > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > Sirs: > > > > I have tried all the usual tricks to get Backspace to work in Xterm. > > > > in .xinitrc > > xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace' > > > > xmodmap <<-EOF > > keycode 22 = Backspace osfBackSpace > > keycode 107 = Delete > > EOF > > > > in .Xresources > > XTterm*ttyModes: erase ^? kill ^U intr ^C auit ^\ eof ^D \ > > susp ^Z start ^Q stop ^S elo ^@ > > note: ^H does work. > > > > I have NOT tried to change anything (yet) in app-defaults/XTerm as > > my German is not good enough to figure out the comments on BackSpace. > > > > > > The above are all from the HOWTO and do not work. Could you please > > advise how someone with a us keyboard get the BacksSpace to function > > in an X XTerm. I have it working fine in the console. > > I do have an US keyboard (I do not like the german layout) and all keys > work as expected after a fresh install. Maybe you updated your system and > have some old config files around which redefine the keys? > Are you having the same problem with a sample user? Maybe you have an old > ..inputrc or something else? Are other programs affected or only xterm? > > > Thanks > > > > wayne > > Hubert > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Pascal, n.: A programming language named after a man who would turn over in his grave if he knew about it. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] apsfilter with remote printer?
by brauki＠cww.de 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

hello Howard, > > Our printers in the lab here have their own IP addresses; however > when I set rm=123.45.678.911 (to the printer's IP address) in the you have got strange IP adresses. I always thought the highest number beeing 255 in it > printcap file, it seems to disable any sort of local filter. That > might make sense if you're sending a file to a real print queue on > another machine, but not for sending directly to a printer. > filter processing is an ability of the machine the printer is directly connected to. In this case, the ability of your print-server box. > For example, the following printcap entry was created by YaST, but > with an IP address added by hand to replace the "lp=..." field. > > lp|aslcolor:\ > :rm=123.45.678.911:\ I miss the rp: (remote printer field) maybe it is not nessesary on your printer box, our axis and hp-jet direct servers need them. > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600:\ > :lf=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600/log:\ > :af=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600/acct:\ > :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600:\ > :la:mx#0:\ > :sh:sf: > > This works OK for postscript files, as it simply forwards things > to the printer at 123.45.678.911. But no matter how things are I guess PS is your printers native Language. If a PS file is sent to the printer it will -of course- understand it. > set up (i.e., with the varous "ascii" and "raw" entries set up > analogously) the apsfilter is not run, so that for example ascii > files don't get translated. > > I've set up local (e.g., /dev/lp0) printers with no problems, but > this has me stuck. Is this ignoring of the "if=..." field a bug, > a feature, or am I just missing something here? > as mentioned, the filter won't be procesed. There is an article in (I am afraid) the german SDB about that. I recently wrote to Stephen Downum on this list about the same subject. I do not remember his adress, but maybe he's reading this and can help you further. that's were the artikels can be found: <A HREF="http://localhost/support-db/sdb/kgw_print_remote.html"><A HREF="http://localhost/support-db/sdb/kgw_print_remote.html</A">http://localhost/support-db/sdb/kgw_print_remote.html</A</A>> <A HREF="http://localhost/support-db/sdb/drucker-3.html"><A HREF="http://localhost/support-db/sdb/drucker-3.html</A">http://localhost/support-db/sdb/drucker-3.html</A</A>> recycling a few "old" bits of mail: basicly, you shall set up a second printqueue with apsfilter, the output is not send to a printer but to the printqueue of your remote printer. It is a bit complicated for me to understand the setup right from the spot and therefore i can't translate it into english, but maybe that artikel is a start. They quote a few alterations in /etc/apsfilter.rc too. (remove a comment in a line reading "#REMOTE_PRINTER=true" further information might be found in the printing howto, wich I found very helpful when I had my little problems. /usr/doc/howto/Printing-HOWTO.gz hope it helps Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] cde and coolmail
by gecko＠freecar.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Michael, Try looking at the man page for FvwmTaskBar. That's the creature that handles the email notification in fvwm95 (which I run) I'd lay odds its the same one that handles it in your manager, too. On 12-Feb-98 Michael Perry wrote: > >Just started playing around with cde and would like to know if anyone else is >using it on the list. Curious about how to get the button bar to swallow up >coolmail so it shows me when email comes in. Kinda like what the default >fvwm2 >button bar does. > >Thx. > >--Michael Perry-- >mperry(a)basin.com >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re:[S.u.S.E. Linux] apsfilter with remote printer?]
by lach＠lach.net 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Howard, What version of lpr are you using??? If I remember right RedHat made an rpm 0.19...... for lpr that got the filters working with networked printers. This was about 8 months ago so I assume it will be in the 4.2 area on there server. I have never tested it though...... Until this change was made the if and of flags in a printer description where ignored by networked printers. If I come across more info I will forward it to the list. Lach Howard wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] apsfilter with remote printer? > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:19:05 -0500 (EST) > From: "Howard E. Motteler" <motteler(a)motteler.clark.net> > Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Our printers in the lab here have their own IP addresses; however > when I set rm=123.45.678.911 (to the printer's IP address) in the > printcap file, it seems to disable any sort of local filter. That > might make sense if you're sending a file to a real print queue on > another machine, but not for sending directly to a printer. > > For example, the following printcap entry was created by YaST, but > with an IP address added by hand to replace the "lp=..." field. > > lp|aslcolor:\ > :rm=123.45.678.911:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600:\ > :lf=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600/log:\ > :af=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600/acct:\ > :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600:\ > :la:mx#0:\ > :sh:sf: > > This works OK for postscript files, as it simply forwards things > to the printer at 123.45.678.911. But no matter how things are > set up (i.e., with the varous "ascii" and "raw" entries set up > analogously) the apsfilter is not run, so that for example ascii > files don't get translated. > > I've set up local (e.g., /dev/lp0) printers with no problems, but > this has me stuck. Is this ignoring of the "if=..." field a bug, > a feature, or am I just missing something here? > > Thanks, > > -- > Howard Motteler > motteler(a)umbc.edu > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X-Server
by sasha＠iware.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Thanks very much. You made my day! later /s --------------------------------------------------- A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X-Server
by sasha＠iware.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Thanks very much. You made my day! later /s --------------------------------------------------- A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X-Server
by deem＠wdm.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Sasha Kacanski <sasha(a)iware.com> wrote: > > Anyone aware of Xserver that will support GLINT 500TX and Delta chip. > Q: > How to make it above to work w Linux. I don't want to use VGA on board (bad > quality) > thanks > /s > > Xi Graphics fully supports it, see <A HREF="http://www.xig.com"><A HREF="http://www.xig.com</A">http://www.xig.com</A</A>> or e-mail them. You'll find excellent diplay servers there. Regards -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] cde and coolmail
by mperry＠basin.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Just started playing around with cde and would like to know if anyone else is using it on the list. Curious about how to get the button bar to swallow up coolmail so it shows me when email comes in. Kinda like what the default fvwm2 button bar does. Thx. --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X-Server
by sasha＠iware.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Anyone aware of Xserver that will support GLINT 500TX and Delta chip. Q: How to make it above to work w Linux. I don't want to use VGA on board (bad quality) thanks /s -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Hubert Very interesting. Just made a NEW user and NO, he doesn't have that problem! The only files he has are the 112-113 files SuSE makes for a new user. So the problem is NOT a SuSE problem but a problem uith files carried over from Slackware. One problem on MY account, but not on root, is that the Xterm does NOT like my custom.map file. I get errors in xterm on the 1st 16 keys in that file. In Slackware there were no errors from custom.map. I diff'ed my map with root's and they are the same!(??) The ONLY thing effected is xterm, every other program, so far, works fine, and the only key that doesn't work correctly is BackSpace! (??) I see that some of the files in the new user are looking for a /home/.profile. I have carried over the practice of the OTHER distributions and do have a .bash_profile but can't see, anything obivious, that that change would cause. I will go tru, file by file, the new user files to compare/check for differences that may be causing this. I will put my Sherlock Holmes hat on and dig into this. Thanks for asking the right question to put me on track, again. Wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences. Date: Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 11:27:15AM +0100 In reply to:Hubert Mantel Quoting Hubert Mantel(mantel(a)suse.de): > > > Hi, > > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > Sirs: > > > > I have tried all the usual tricks to get Backspace to work in Xterm. > > > > in .xinitrc > > xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace' > > > > xmodmap <<-EOF > > keycode 22 = Backspace osfBackSpace > > keycode 107 = Delete > > EOF > > > > in .Xresources > > XTterm*ttyModes: erase ^? kill ^U intr ^C auit ^\ eof ^D \ > > susp ^Z start ^Q stop ^S elo ^@ > > note: ^H does work. > > > > I have NOT tried to change anything (yet) in app-defaults/XTerm as > > my German is not good enough to figure out the comments on BackSpace. > > > > > > The above are all from the HOWTO and do not work. Could you please > > advise how someone with a us keyboard get the BacksSpace to function > > in an X XTerm. I have it working fine in the console. > > I do have an US keyboard (I do not like the german layout) and all keys > work as expected after a fresh install. Maybe you updated your system and > have some old config files around which redefine the keys? > Are you having the same problem with a sample user? Maybe you have an old > ..inputrc or something else? Are other programs affected or only xterm? > > > Thanks > > > > wayne > > Hubert > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by mantel＠suse.de 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Hi, On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Sirs: > > I have tried all the usual tricks to get Backspace to work in Xterm. > > in .xinitrc > xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace' > > xmodmap <<-EOF > keycode 22 = Backspace osfBackSpace > keycode 107 = Delete > EOF > > in .Xresources > XTterm*ttyModes: erase ^? kill ^U intr ^C auit ^\ eof ^D \ > susp ^Z start ^Q stop ^S elo ^@ > note: ^H does work. > > I have NOT tried to change anything (yet) in app-defaults/XTerm as > my German is not good enough to figure out the comments on BackSpace. > > > The above are all from the HOWTO and do not work. Could you please > advise how someone with a us keyboard get the BacksSpace to function > in an X XTerm. I have it working fine in the console. I do have an US keyboard (I do not like the german layout) and all keys work as expected after a fresh install. Maybe you updated your system and have some old config files around which redefine the keys? Are you having the same problem with a sample user? Maybe you have an old .inputrc or something else? Are other programs affected or only xterm? > Thanks > > wayne Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox X-server
by ke＠suse.de 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Steve Cohen <steve(a)toad.net> writes: | "Now both the text based setup tool as well as the graphical setup | tool have been updated to support our servers as well. You can | download the XF86Setup tool here." Oops, this was added recently. If you managed to install it and it worked, it's probably okay ;-) | XF86Setup worked fine when I used it last night. Good to know. -- CeBIT '98: 5/A61 and 3/C33 Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH Fax +49-911-3206727 ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 Mo & Th 13:00-18:00: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany Hotline +49-911-3247130 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] apsfilter with remote printer?
by motteler＠motteler.clark.net 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Our printers in the lab here have their own IP addresses; however when I set rm=123.45.678.911 (to the printer's IP address) in the printcap file, it seems to disable any sort of local filter. That might make sense if you're sending a file to a real print queue on another machine, but not for sending directly to a printer. For example, the following printcap entry was created by YaST, but with an IP address added by hand to replace the "lp=..." field. lp|aslcolor:\ :rm=123.45.678.911:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600/acct:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-color-600:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh:sf: This works OK for postscript files, as it simply forwards things to the printer at 123.45.678.911. But no matter how things are set up (i.e., with the varous "ascii" and "raw" entries set up analogously) the apsfilter is not run, so that for example ascii files don't get translated. I've set up local (e.g., /dev/lp0) printers with no problems, but this has me stuck. Is this ignoring of the "if=..." field a bug, a feature, or am I just missing something here? Thanks, -- Howard Motteler motteler(a)umbc.edu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

just as a note to users who are new. most utilities have a nice help -- it is very standard (at least across gnu utils) to have a "--help" flag. if that fails, try "-h" or "-help"... On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tom Schaefer wrote: > > phillip mannie wrote: > > > Thanks to everyone for your ideas and advice...I did the deed and > > thought a report might be at least mildly interesting as I chose to use > > YaST. > > > > In retrospect, I believe that fdisk, mke2fs, edit /etc/fstab would be the > > ideal way to proceed, as Michael and Tom suggested. This is not because > > there is anything *wrong* with YaST, but because I am familiar with the > > operation of these *IX tools in general. I believe that the old-fashioned > > way is more consonant with the *IX philosophies of small-is-beautiful, > > a-tool-for-every-job and at-least-one-way-to-connect-each-tool. I hope > > that LINUX never abandons the do-it-yourselfer, while going on to create > > widgets to help those who may *not* be entirely comfortable with fdisk > > and mkfs. > > > > Open systems - I really like the duality of being able to use either or > both command line utilities and gui based utilities, but I think that this > is a case where Yast suffers from a bit of "over-engineering". You will be > amazed to find that the manual system of partitioning, formatting and > assigning mount points is not really all that difficult, it's just rather > dry and boring, and a bit tedious. Many people do not have the patience to > step through a learning curve using a series of processes to bring a drive > on line. They'd rather watch a cartoon-like graphical tool or even a > character based tool to just "get it done" and report the results.[...] > > > So now, I'm thinking of going through the fdisk, mkfs thing to see what > > (if any) unexpected stuff might occur. > > > > Start with the man pages ... and the SuSE web/html based help pages are a > good resource too ... > > -tks- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by netd＠fastrans.net 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

phillip mannie wrote: > Thanks to everyone for your ideas and advice...I did the deed and > thought a report might be at least mildly interesting as I chose to use > YaST. > > In retrospect, I believe that fdisk, mke2fs, edit /etc/fstab would be the > ideal way to proceed, as Michael and Tom suggested. This is not because > there is anything *wrong* with YaST, but because I am familiar with the > operation of these *IX tools in general. I believe that the old-fashioned > way is more consonant with the *IX philosophies of small-is-beautiful, > a-tool-for-every-job and at-least-one-way-to-connect-each-tool. I hope > that LINUX never abandons the do-it-yourselfer, while going on to create > widgets to help those who may *not* be entirely comfortable with fdisk > and mkfs. > Open systems - I really like the duality of being able to use either or both command line utilities and gui based utilities, but I think that this is a case where Yast suffers from a bit of "over-engineering". You will be amazed to find that the manual system of partitioning, formatting and assigning mount points is not really all that difficult, it's just rather dry and boring, and a bit tedious. Many people do not have the patience to step through a learning curve using a series of processes to bring a drive on line. They'd rather watch a cartoon-like graphical tool or even a character based tool to just "get it done" and report the results.[...] > So now, I'm thinking of going through the fdisk, mkfs thing to see what > (if any) unexpected stuff might occur. > Start with the man pages ... and the SuSE web/html based help pages are a good resource too ... -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors
by vhearn＠wenet.net 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Steve Cohen wrote: > > Just out of curiousity, where did you hear that we see a light shade as foreground? We have been using white paper with black letters for centuries. > > Steve Cohen > P.S. Sorry for writing something off the topic of this mailing list. > -----Original Message----- > From: vic <vhearn(a)wenet.net> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors > > >> -- > >As a matter of concern...why would anyone default(or set) to a white > >background, > >or any color scheme featuring dark colored text on a light background? > >This can > >be proven to be ergometrically(sic) counter to the brains normal > >functioning of > >reading light as foreground and dark as background, not to mention(i > >just did) > >the sunburn on the eyeballs that results from a blareingly bright > >screen... > > Unfortunately, due to the use of default use of black text(in > >unpredictable locations) > >in many online documents,i am forced to compromise and use a paleish > >lime green background > >for my orange(or lime-green?!?)text, ewhich is normally set on a black > >or indigo back ground.. > > I know that this color scheme harkens back to the old monochrome > >days(and i use color, where > >applicable to express information)(my little computer brainiac brother > >reacted with an "EWWW/") > >yet on the outside i figure there was some reason for it(maybe it was > >the low cost of orange and green phosphors, i dunno... > > > >*your friend in the periphery* > >#FrAcTeL# > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Reguardless, Black paper with white letters has been rather uneconimical(and impractical) to produce. # -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] quirk in sound
by bb＠suse.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Michael Lankton wrote: > > When I boot up and try to play an audio cd, no sound. Mp3 player and > midi player both work however, and if I try to play an audio cd AFTER > using either of those the cd then has sound also. The same problem > occurs with four different cd player programs, so it isnt a buggy cd > player. Any idea what the problem could be and how to fix it? > Thanks in advance Try to insmod sound.o befor you try to play a CD. Seems you have modular sound support, and your sound card needs to be initialized to use the CD player. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] quirk in sound
by satan＠nfinity.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

When I boot up and try to play an audio cd, no sound. Mp3 player and midi player both work however, and if I try to play an audio cd AFTER using either of those the cd then has sound also. The same problem occurs with four different cd player programs, so it isnt a buggy cd player. Any idea what the problem could be and how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by phil＠servcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Thanks to everyone for your ideas and advice...I did the deed and thought a report might be at least mildly interesting as I chose to use YaST. In retrospect, I believe that fdisk, mke2fs, edit /etc/fstab would be the ideal way to proceed, as Michael and Tom suggested. This is not because there is anything *wrong* with YaST, but because I am familiar with the operation of these *IX tools in general. I believe that the old-fashioned way is more consonant with the *IX philosophies of small-is-beautiful, a-tool-for-every-job and at-least-one-way-to-connect-each-tool. I hope that LINUX never abandons the do-it-yourselfer, while going on to create widgets to help those who may *not* be entirely comfortable with fdisk and mkfs. This being said, I evoked YaST, told it how to re-partition /dev/hdb, hastily moved to another console to create mount points and turned it loose. Here's where some confusion (as we've been hearing in this list) entered. It (YaST) responded that since I was rewriting disk partition tables that it (YaST) would rewrite /dev/hda3!!! (my swap on a disk I hadn't mentioned for repartition!), then YaST would exit and I'd have to reboot. I have no idea why it would want to mess with my swap space (since all the changes were to /dev/hdb), but what the hell. I pressed enter to allow it to proceed, YaST exited and returned me to a root prompt. I let it sit at the root prompt for several minutes (while checking processes on another console) and, after a bit, told it to shutdown -r. Down she went and up she came, returning to a login prompt. As root, I checked df...no new disk, so I fired YaST up again. This time it (YaST) turned up in German...no worries, I can deal with basic music German and evidently, basic computer German is no different. It (YaST) remembered how I wanted the disk partitioned, but forgot the mount points. I told it the mount points again and it responded by telling me it was creating file systems (in German). After a season we returned to the press-enter-to-leave-YaST-you'll-need-to-reboot prompt (in German) and I let 'er rip, returning to a root prompt. I logged in on another console (in English) to make certain that all was well...it seemed to be so I gave it a shutdown -h, this time. After a hard restart...all is well; both disks came up as planned, in English, and everything where it should be. All my configuration files (at least those for X that I've checked so far) remain unchanged and I have roughly 1.7Gb more space. Cool. In summary (and sorry for the length of what is, after all, a success report) if I were the nervous type, or completely unfamiliar with German the YaST thing probably would have upset me. The threat of messing with /dev/hda3 (swap on drive hda, which I had not offered for change) would have probably freaked me, but it worked perfectly (sort of). So now, I'm thinking of going through the fdisk, mkfs thing to see what (if any) unexpected stuff might occur. Thanks again to those who had advice or comments to offer... phil -- phillip mannie _Novus Ordo Seclorum <phil(a)servcom.com> / / (_)__ __ ____ __ a.k.a. / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / <phil(a)ktuu.com> /___ /_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ S.u.S.E. M$ delenda est! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] BackSpace in XTerm SuSE differences.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Sirs: I have tried all the usual tricks to get Backspace to work in Xterm. in .xinitrc xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace' xmodmap <<-EOF keycode 22 = Backspace osfBackSpace keycode 107 = Delete EOF in .Xresources XTterm*ttyModes: erase ^? kill ^U intr ^C auit ^\ eof ^D \ susp ^Z start ^Q stop ^S elo ^@ note: ^H does work. I have NOT tried to change anything (yet) in app-defaults/XTerm as my German is not good enough to figure out the comments on BackSpace. The above are all from the HOWTO and do not work. Could you please advise how someone with a us keyboard get the BacksSpace to function in an X XTerm. I have it working fine in the console. Thanks wayne -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

On Feb 11, 6:13pm, wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems > > Frank > > If you use YaST, you can find the answer to your questions about > missing files. > Go into the PACKAGE INFORMATION section nad hit F9 to include the > the CD in the search. Put the file you need on the search line & hit > F5. I see that I do have Imake & it was "probably" installed when I > loaded up the xdevel package. It seems to be in a few other packages, > as well > > There are some needed files in a package called "easy". I needed > ginstall, which is not includes normally (?), and found it in the easy > package. Ginstall was installed in .usr/bin ( Where Bodo says it > should be) but the tarballs I was installing looked for it in /bin. > So make a sym-link and you should be all set. > > HTH > wayne > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems > Date: Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 03:18:51PM -0600 > > In reply to:Frank Pawlak > Thanks for the tips. This is a feature of YAST that I was unaware of. I am sure it will be put to good use. I got the xdevel package installed and that fixed my build problems. Don't know how I missed that -- been using Linux long enough to know better. Regards, Frank -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE Grok - Problem solved.
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

Anyone using the grok (xgrok) supplied with SuSE 5.1 ( And earlier) will have a problem seeing the Help screens. They display as Black on Black, a bit difficult to read. The problem is in the /etc/skel/.Xresources file. As pointed out in grok.hlp, you have to comment out the like, in .Xresources that says: grok*ColSheetL Black. It seems that this has been around since SuSE 4.4. wayne -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 12 Feb '98

12 Feb '98

On Feb 11, 1:57pm, gecko(a)langenselbold.fortunet.com wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems > > the Imake templates are installed when you install the development kit fo rX (I don't remember the title off hand) I had to root around for tha tmonday night t oget a game to compile... > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from gecko(a)langenselbold.fortunet.com Thanks for your help. The file I needed is xdevel. Regards, Frank -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Frank If you use YaST, you can find the answer to your questions about missing files. Go into the PACKAGE INFORMATION section nad hit F9 to include the the CD in the search. Put the file you need on the search line & hit F5. I see that I do have Imake & it was "probably" installed when I loaded up the xdevel package. It seems to be in a few other packages, as well There are some needed files in a package called "easy". I needed ginstall, which is not includes normally (?), and found it in the easy package. Ginstall was installed in .usr/bin ( Where Bodo says it should be) but the tarballs I was installing looked for it in /bin. So make a sym-link and you should be all set. HTH wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems Date: Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 03:18:51PM -0600 In reply to:Frank Pawlak Quoting Frank Pawlak(fpawlak(a)execpc.com): > > > The installation of SuSE 5.1 appeared to go well, most things are working as > expected. However several problems remain. These problems are becomming an > increasing source of irratation. It just seems a whole lot easier to configure > and use some utilities and apps on Slackware and FreeBSD. Otherwise I like > SuSE. > > First. Knews was installed from the distribution CD and operates as expected > except when attempting to post to a news group. When a post is attempted I get > an error to the effect that the Domain Name is not set, posting not allowed. > YAST was used to set both the nameserver and NNTP server, but the problem > remains. > > As a remedy, I downloaded the latest version of Knews and attempted a build and > install. Well that fails with an error message after xmkmf. > imake-Duse_Installed-I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config > Imakefile.c:13 Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory > imake:Exit code33 > Stop > > Checked /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config and sure as hell the only things in there are > Motif.rules and Motif.tmpl > > Make and pmake are both installed. This does not at all look like what is > present in the same directory on Slackware and FreeBSD on both of which I am > able to build the version of Knews. What has failed on my SuSE installation > that the appropriate files are missing from this directory? > > Second: dialout to my ISP. > > Have both a script and EZPPP installed and configured which is operational for > either su or root. The dialout group is setup and the permissions set, and > EZPPP errors out as follows: > After connecting to the ISP the error: > Xlib:unexpected async reply (sequence 0x6b1a)! and the connection drops. > > Having to su to use dailout is a major pain in the ass, and again a step that > is unnecessary using the same setup on Slackware. What am I doing wrong that > this is such a major issue with SuSE and not Slackware? > > Lastly: > > I downloaded the latest update for the gimp, gimp.rpm and the associated > gtk.rpm. The later installed fine. When attempting to install gimp.rpm it > errors out with the following: > Failed dependancy check failed dependancies libxdelta.so.0 is needed by > gimp-0.99.17-0. Where in the flaming jesus is libxdelta and how do I get it? > > Any help and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > Frank > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | | on WINDOZE | +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems
by gecko＠langenselbold.fortunet.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

the Imake templates are installed when you install the development kit fo rX (I don't remember the title off hand) I had to root around for tha tmonday night t oget a game to compile... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice
by jzhang＠iastate.edu 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

At 01:55 PM 2/11/98 -0600, Frank Pawlak wrote: > >On Feb 11, 8:59am, Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: >> Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice >> >> Who has a comprehensive list of Staroffice mirror sites. I have been >> trying to download Staroffice 40 desperately for the pas WEEK, and i >> have failed. I need more mirrors...Please >> > >I had the same experience, the servers are extremely busy. AFIK there are no >other mirror sites at this time, unless Caldera has added one. When I last >checked they were still offering StarOffice 3.1. The new version is a big >improvement over 3.1. > >The way that I got the download -- a big one about 45M -- was to keep trying >and got lucky one night and connected. >Regards, >Frank > > >> B@N >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >>-- End of excerpt from Benjamin van Ruyssevelt > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > try <A HREF="ftp://sunsite.uio.no"><A HREF="ftp://sunsite.uio.no</A">ftp://sunsite.uio.no</A</A>>. Gook luck. Jianbo -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On Feb 11, 9:09pm, brauki(a)cww.de wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice > > On 11 Feb, Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > > > > Who has a comprehensive list of Staroffice mirror sites. I have been > > trying to download Staroffice 40 desperately for the pas WEEK, and i > > have failed. I need more mirrors...Please > > > > well I do not rememder sites, but I remember my trouble to download > staroffice 4.0. you can use the standard ftp command "reget" to > continue downloading from theat point the lasut down load failed. There > are some ftp-clients (better than standard ftp) that support it, but I > used ftp to continue after "just" 40 MB. > > > if there are questions left, contact me. > > btw. staroffice 4.0 exxeded at jan 31st. is there a new update release > available? Yes the final version 4.0 was released about a week and a half ago. It is well worth the effort to get the download, even though the servers are very busy. Regards, Frank > Jürgen > > > -- > ========================================== __ _ > Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ > Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / > ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from brauki(a)cww.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Several Problems
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

The installation of SuSE 5.1 appeared to go well, most things are working as expected. However several problems remain. These problems are becomming an increasing source of irratation. It just seems a whole lot easier to configure and use some utilities and apps on Slackware and FreeBSD. Otherwise I like SuSE. First. Knews was installed from the distribution CD and operates as expected except when attempting to post to a news group. When a post is attempted I get an error to the effect that the Domain Name is not set, posting not allowed. YAST was used to set both the nameserver and NNTP server, but the problem remains. As a remedy, I downloaded the latest version of Knews and attempted a build and install. Well that fails with an error message after xmkmf. imake-Duse_Installed-I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config Imakefile.c:13 Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake:Exit code33 Stop Checked /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config and sure as hell the only things in there are Motif.rules and Motif.tmpl Make and pmake are both installed. This does not at all look like what is present in the same directory on Slackware and FreeBSD on both of which I am able to build the version of Knews. What has failed on my SuSE installation that the appropriate files are missing from this directory? Second: dialout to my ISP. Have both a script and EZPPP installed and configured which is operational for either su or root. The dialout group is setup and the permissions set, and EZPPP errors out as follows: After connecting to the ISP the error: Xlib:unexpected async reply (sequence 0x6b1a)! and the connection drops. Having to su to use dailout is a major pain in the ass, and again a step that is unnecessary using the same setup on Slackware. What am I doing wrong that this is such a major issue with SuSE and not Slackware? Lastly: I downloaded the latest update for the gimp, gimp.rpm and the associated gtk.rpm. The later installed fine. When attempting to install gimp.rpm it errors out with the following: Failed dependancy check failed dependancies libxdelta.so.0 is needed by gimp-0.99.17-0. Where in the flaming jesus is libxdelta and how do I get it? Any help and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Frank -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Tkman errors & cron.daily
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Just installed TkMan from the SuSE 5.1 CD's. It complained about no whatis databases. Ran makewhatis manually and now only get the error "/usr/man/preformat -- doesn't exist" Question: As I have REINIT=yes in rc.config, I expected the SuSE system to take care of the man updates. I find that IF cron.daily ran this would be the case. In root/bin/cron.daily: # cron.daily. This script is executed as a cron-job in the # early morning-hours. Please add your local changes to # cron.daily.local # since this file will be overwritten, when updating your system. # BUT I find the following in /sbin/init.d/boot # The following script is executed at boot-up and also from a # cron-entry # # in the early morning. So your system should be checked often # enough. #if test -x /root/bin/cron.daily; then # /root/bin/cron.daily #fi As this entry is commented out in the file I assume that SuSE does not want cron.daily run(?). If that is the case (?) what is the purpose of cron.daily? Should I go back to putting all of this type of daily job in my crontab or is it OK to just uncomment the cron.daily call in /sbin/init.d/boot and then call that from a cron job? As the book has no information on the cron.daily.local file format, could someone give an example as the how the entries in this file should look. Should that be added as in a normal crontab file or as in a script file? Has the /usr/man/preformat/cat1 .... directory been replaced by something else in SuSE? (I see that the Live file system is lacking the preformat directry as well.) If so, could you please tell me what I should use so that I can get rid of that TkMan error message. Sorry for the questions but SuSE has introduced (at least to me), a few new ways to do things and I would like to do it the SuSE way in this setup. wayne -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On Feb 11, 8:59am, Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice > > Who has a comprehensive list of Staroffice mirror sites. I have been > trying to download Staroffice 40 desperately for the pas WEEK, and i > have failed. I need more mirrors...Please > I had the same experience, the servers are extremely busy. AFIK there are no other mirror sites at this time, unless Caldera has added one. When I last checked they were still offering StarOffice 3.1. The new version is a big improvement over 3.1. The way that I got the download -- a big one about 45M -- was to keep trying and got lucky one night and connected. Regards, Frank > B@N > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Benjamin van Ruyssevelt -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice
by brauki＠cww.de 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On 11 Feb, Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > > Who has a comprehensive list of Staroffice mirror sites. I have been > trying to download Staroffice 40 desperately for the pas WEEK, and i > have failed. I need more mirrors...Please > well I do not rememder sites, but I remember my trouble to download staroffice 4.0. you can use the standard ftp command "reget" to continue downloading from theat point the lasut down load failed. There are some ftp-clients (better than standard ftp) that support it, but I used ftp to continue after "just" 40 MB. if there are questions left, contact me. btw. staroffice 4.0 exxeded at jan 31st. is there a new update release available? Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by brauki＠cww.de 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On 10 Feb, phillip mannie wrote: > > It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding > a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a > couple of Red Hat partitions). I can mount the LINUX partitions, so I > believe that the physical installation is working. I was just about to > run (as root) fdisk /dev/hdb, create a partition or maybe 2, format > and add the new partition(s) to the fstab when it occured to me that > perhaps I should be using some S.u.S.E. provided tool for this. > > I didn't see anything obvious in YaST, so my question would be ought I > just do this by hand (as it were), or does S.u.S.E. provide some > preferred tool for preparing new HD space on a running system? Any > pitfalls anyone has encountered with this seemingly simple operation? > Hi Phil, I've read the answers to your question an I wonder... most of them used fdisk, as I did sometime in the beginning. But YaST is far a bit better for that. goodness, I've (of course got a gernman system ;-)) I just switched to english.. confusing things happen.... ;-) (SuSEconfig runs...) try adjustment of installation... configure hard disk partitions -- select the "new" disk delete the old create the new partitions move back, select "Set target partitions/filesystems" enter mount points etc. pp. leave yast, reboot (because partition tables are written) start yast (it will remember that there was something to do i.e. formatting new partitions) and that will be it. HIH Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Some good words
by lach＠lach.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

We are extremely fortunate users and administrators when we have 4 *excellent* distributions to bounce around between: Debian, Caldera, RedHat, SuSE. I myself have 3 of the 4 running all the time just to keep up with what's happening with each distribution. Bring on the errata, it sure is nice getting timely fixes to bugs and security holes!! Who says competition isn't good!! Later, and Eric I'll catch ya on the Hurricane list :) Lach Eric L. Green wrote: > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Mario Jose Medjeral wrote: > > Ok there are some problems, but this bugs should be corrected by receiving > > the updates with a subscription. > > As a matter of fact, have a look at the webside of Red Hat and check the > > "erratas" of their RedHat 5.0 version. Is a long list! > > Actually, there are only 4 files you need to download to update your Red > Hat 5.0 as is currently being shipped. > > This is probably my last message here, since I just erased SuSE off my > home machine in order to install Red Hat 5.0. I need to evaluate 5.0 for > use in our business and SuSE is not suitable for such use for reasons I've > detailed previously. Nice distribution for J. Random User, though. > > Eric Lee Green exec(a)softdisk.com Executive Consultants > Systems Specialist Educational Administration Solutions > You might be a redneck if you put on insect repellant prior to a date. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Some good words
by exec＠prysm.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Mario Jose Medjeral wrote: > Ok there are some problems, but this bugs should be corrected by receiving > the updates with a subscription. > As a matter of fact, have a look at the webside of Red Hat and check the > "erratas" of their RedHat 5.0 version. Is a long list! Actually, there are only 4 files you need to download to update your Red Hat 5.0 as is currently being shipped. This is probably my last message here, since I just erased SuSE off my home machine in order to install Red Hat 5.0. I need to evaluate 5.0 for use in our business and SuSE is not suitable for such use for reasons I've detailed previously. Nice distribution for J. Random User, though. Eric Lee Green exec(a)softdisk.com Executive Consultants Systems Specialist Educational Administration Solutions You might be a redneck if you put on insect repellant prior to a date. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: Why does Yast keep starting up?
by mantel＠suse.de 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Hi, On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tom Schaefer wrote: > I understand you guys are busy as bees there, but perhaps you could set it up so > that experienced users can overide that prompt (ENTER to continue) ; as well as > some of the other prompts; for mass rollouts of machines. > > I would love to have a screen where I can load all of the custom information; hit > GO and walk away. > > Imagine being able to load a SuSE boot diskette, have Yast automatically load a > pre-defined config on the diskette which points and links the target machine to a > distribution server, then begin formatting and installing the custom distribution > without any user intervention. A really cool option would be to place a default > XF86Config on the diskette as well, and when you return to that machine, when the > install is all done automatically, you bump the mouse and you see the xlogin. This is already almost completely implemented and will hopefully be available in the next release ;-) You will be able to provide a special info file on the bootdisk which contains the information how to partition the disk(s) and how to reach the distribution server. It is possible to get the network configuration from a DHCP or bootpc server and you can even mark additional custom packages for post-install (and you will be able to execute custom post-install scripts as well). YaST on 5.1 has this feature already partially implemented, but as it is not yet complete we did not yet document it. But it did work fine in the past for some big companies here in Germany that want to install hundreds of similar machines without user intervention. If you want to play around, just do the following: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt (mount one of our bootdisks) mkdir -p /mnt/suse/setup/descr Now create a file /mnt/suse/setup/descr/info with the following contents: ----------------- Language: german # "german" or "english" Display: color # "color" or "mono" Keytable: de-lat1-nd Bootmode: CD # Bootmode; Default is "CD"; # Bootmode: Net # Example for NFS installation Cdrom: scd0 # Not really necessary scsi_hostadapter aha1542 # Not yet used IP: 192.168.103.2 Netmask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway: 192.168.103.1 Server: 192.168.102.10 Serverdir: /work/rpm/CD1 Nameserver: 192.168.102.1 Netdevice:eth0 ----------------- umount /mnt and boot with that disk. If you give the kernel parameter "linuxrc=auto" on the LILO prompt, linuxrc will read the info file and try to act accordingly. If Bootmode is "Net" and you do not specify an IP address of the to be installed machine, linuxrc will try to reach a DHCP server to get the info. Please note that this is work in progress. Especially linuxrc does not yet load modules specified in the info file. So, it currently only works if the bootkernel supports all your hardware needed for installation. There is still lots of work to be done. The information needed for YaST will be contained in this file, too. But as this is supposed to change fundamentally, I will not document it right now ;-) Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Why does Yast keep starting up?
by efinson＠uswest.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

This happened to me as well, Yast assumed that it need to be started during boot, started, informed me that installation was complete, and exited. On a slow machine, this really made rebooting intolerable ;). A careful look at the boot script show that Yast is starting as a result of two test lines, if it finds a file call suse.newconfig, or somesuch, or a file called .Configure2 in the paths the script indicates, Yast starts. What I did was look for these files, and finding .Configure2, simply moved it. I have no idea if this was the best thing to do -- but yast clearly thought the install was complete every time it launched. I also have a couple of other problems. I am running yast to perform some system admin. I played around with Live FIlesystem, then decided I didn't want it. Yast spends a bit of time 'removing symlinks' then tries to update by running suseconfig. It errors here, indicating that there is already a susconfig running. A ps -aux | grep config proves that it is *not* already running. Any idea? Also, I am having problems with X. I am using xf86config, defining mt Trident card, using the Suse trident server (which *is* installed), but when I startx, I get a fuzzy screen, lose mouse and keyboard, and can only do a reset and reboot the machine to escape. Any help appreciated. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Elizabeth Finson | | Web Site/Systems Administrator (206) 345-2751| | U S WEST Creative Services | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Look: trees do exist; the houses that we live in still | | stand. We alone fly past all things, as fugitive as the | | wind. -- Rainer Maria Rilke | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Steve Cohen wrote: > > I didn't reboot it then. I waited, did what it said, and it asked me for the > 2nd cd and then the third. I know it is finished with the install. I think I > put 500MB into the /usr partition. > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > > > > > This is the "problem" I mentioned a while back ... > > > > Right after yast "looked like it was done", I'll bet you rebooted before > > you let yast finish the initial install - you probably didn't think twice > > about rebooting after getting the login prompt after the system does its > > first initialization. > > > > I wonder if you've got all the packages installed as well. If you run yast > > now, does it tell you that a boatload of packages were not installed? > > > > I'd re-install and make sure you wait for everything to finish before > > rebooting. Watch the console messages at Alt-F9 ... it takes a while to > > unpack a ton of man pages and other stuff. > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Phil Just used dumpe2fs to check up on my last post. I must be mis-understanding the yast output. Yast, Adjustments of installation, Set target partitions/filesystems, shows Blocks and Inodes. I read the Inodes as the Block size. WRONG! Dumpe2fs shows that all the partitions are, in fact 1024, which is what I had formated them to. So, to correct my last post, use Yast. It does it correctly. There is no column in yast to show what the block size is and if you want to check the block size, dumpe2fs will show it (plus a bunch more). Sorry for the confusion. wayne Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk Date: Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 11:20:25AM -0500 In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > Phil > I would suggest that you use Yast to add the new disk to fstab and > to partition it. I tried to add a partition WITHOUT yast and it > screwed up the reboot. There may be a trick to avoid yast but I see > no reason to find it. Yast does it all anyway. > > HTH > > wayne > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk > Date: Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 09:03:09PM -0900 > > In reply to:phillip mannie > > Quoting phillip mannie(phil(a)deepthought.iao.net.suse.de): > > > > > > It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding > > a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a > > couple of Red Hat partitions). I can mount the LINUX partitions, so I > > believe that the physical installation is working. I was just about to > > run (as root) fdisk /dev/hdb, create a partition or maybe 2, format > > and add the new partition(s) to the fstab when it occured to me that > > perhaps I should be using some S.u.S.E. provided tool for this. > > > > I didn't see anything obvious in YaST, so my question would be ought I > > just do this by hand (as it were), or does S.u.S.E. provide some > > preferred tool for preparing new HD space on a running system? Any > > pitfalls anyone has encountered with this seemingly simple operation? > > > > BTW, for what it's worth, I've used SCO, IRIX 5.3, Slackware, Red Hat > > and Caldera, but I seem to be sticking with S.u.S.E. for personal (and > > increasingly, for business) use. SCO is rock solid and free for > > personal use (though hardly so for commercial projects). IRIX is also > > a fine system (if you happen to have MIPS boxes). Slackware seems to > > run on just about any hardware (it's running right now on a 386 4Mb > > system on the other desk). Red Hat is easy to use and I like rpms a > > lot. > > > > To make a long story short, I have yet to see a *bad* LINUX > > distribution and any LINUX is twice the OS of its direct M$ > > counterpart. I'll confess that YaST confuses me a bit, but not enough > > to prevent me from installing the system I want (though it takes me a > > couple of tries, even after having installed 5.0 several times). I > > like the S.u.S.E. window managers, X servers and choice of application > > and utility software. I like the configuration update utility (though > > it's not perfect and will overwrite your carefully crafted .~rc files > > if you don't take care). I have nothing bad to say about any LINUX > > distribution I've tried, but I'll be sticking with S.u.S.E. for a > > while. > > > > TIA for any new HD advice, > > phil > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > . > > -- > \\\|/// > \\ - - // > ( @ @ ) > +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ > | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | > | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | > | on WINDOZE | > +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ > oooO ( ) > ( ) ) / > \ ( (_/ > \_) > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | | on WINDOZE | +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Why does Yast keep starting up?
by netd＠fastrans.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Hubert Mantel wrote: > In the next release we will require people to press ENTER so they are able > to read the text that informs about this thing. > > Hubert > Excellent! I understand you guys are busy as bees there, but perhaps you could set it up so that experienced users can overide that prompt (ENTER to continue) ; as well as some of the other prompts; for mass rollouts of machines. I would love to have a screen where I can load all of the custom information; hit GO and walk away. Imagine being able to load a SuSE boot diskette, have Yast automatically load a pre-defined config on the diskette which points and links the target machine to a distribution server, then begin formatting and installing the custom distribution without any user intervention. A really cool option would be to place a default XF86Config on the diskette as well, and when you return to that machine, when the install is all done automatically, you bump the mouse and you see the xlogin. :) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Phil Sorry for the repost. I just checked something I had forgotten about and thought you might check this. I used yast to format the partitions when I installed SuSE. I KNOW that I said to format using 1K inodes. I just checked yast and see that the /root, /usr and /usr/local partitions are 4096. I would suggest if you want 1K nodes, you format those partitions BEFORE you use yast. Then check it in yast. I had noticed that before but forgot to mention it or to check it out. Just thought you might use that info. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk Date: Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 09:03:09PM -0900 In reply to:phillip mannie Quoting phillip mannie(phil(a)deepthought.iao.net.suse.de): > > > It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding > a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a > couple of Red Hat partitions). I can mount the LINUX partitions, so I > believe that the physical installation is working. I was just about to > run (as root) fdisk /dev/hdb, create a partition or maybe 2, format > and add the new partition(s) to the fstab when it occured to me that > perhaps I should be using some S.u.S.E. provided tool for this. > > I didn't see anything obvious in YaST, so my question would be ought I > just do this by hand (as it were), or does S.u.S.E. provide some > preferred tool for preparing new HD space on a running system? Any > pitfalls anyone has encountered with this seemingly simple operation? > > BTW, for what it's worth, I've used SCO, IRIX 5.3, Slackware, Red Hat > and Caldera, but I seem to be sticking with S.u.S.E. for personal (and > increasingly, for business) use. SCO is rock solid and free for > personal use (though hardly so for commercial projects). IRIX is also > a fine system (if you happen to have MIPS boxes). Slackware seems to > run on just about any hardware (it's running right now on a 386 4Mb > system on the other desk). Red Hat is easy to use and I like rpms a > lot. > > To make a long story short, I have yet to see a *bad* LINUX > distribution and any LINUX is twice the OS of its direct M$ > counterpart. I'll confess that YaST confuses me a bit, but not enough > to prevent me from installing the system I want (though it takes me a > couple of tries, even after having installed 5.0 several times). I > like the S.u.S.E. window managers, X servers and choice of application > and utility software. I like the configuration update utility (though > it's not perfect and will overwrite your carefully crafted .~rc files > if you don't take care). I have nothing bad to say about any LINUX > distribution I've tried, but I'll be sticking with S.u.S.E. for a > while. > > TIA for any new HD advice, > phil > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | | on WINDOZE | +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice
by bennie＠xs4all.nl 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Who has a comprehensive list of Staroffice mirror sites. I have been trying to download Staroffice 40 desperately for the pas WEEK, and i have failed. I need more mirrors...Please B@N -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Postscript Fonts Question (fwd)
by werner＠suse.de 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

> > I have two SuSE machines, one is my print server and dialup gateway, the > other is a workstation. > > When printing from the workstation to the print server machine, jobs > work fine, except that the fonts never seem to make it, and everything > always prints in Times Roman, no matter what I use on the workstation. Hmmm .... if there is no mistake or change in the ghostscript installation of the print server all PostScript source from the client should be printed well. To get PostScript to the print server it is possible to configure apsfilter on the worksation to use local filters (e.g. ghostscript) and make a bypass to the remote printer server instead of printing onto a device. Therefore run /var/lib/apsfilter/SETUP to make an entry in /etc/printcap for a virtuell PostScript printer (e.g. PS_remote) with device /dev/null. Now remove the comment sign `#' of REMOTE_PRINTER="remote" ... and add with /var/lib/apsfilter/SETUP or YaST a remote printer queue `remote'. > > I copied all of the same fonts and fontmap over to the print server's > Ghostscript font directory - was that necessary, or is that only part of > the fix - because it didn't fix the probelm. What else should I be > doing to fix this? If your printer is not an PostScript printer you may _install_ ghostscript on the printer server. Then install apsfilter and configure it for the printer. > > (Incidently, I have figured out how to make other fonts available to my > system. I've added fonts from an NT Adobe Photoshop CD, and some from > WP7 - using that type1inst utility from the GIMP resources page - but I > still have the problem when printing) Have a look into /usr/share/ghostscript/<VERSION_OF_GS>/doc/use.txt ... especially GS_FONTPATH is an interesting environment variable to set up an extended fontpath (never tried it). The variable has to be set on the print server ... e.g.: GS_FONTPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 export GS_FONTPATH (already done in /var/lib/apsfilter/apsfilter). Werner -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox X-server
by steve＠toad.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Karl Eichwalder wrote: > In general, that's a good hint; but at this moment to configure the > XSuSE servers you'll need to use the old fashioned, but reliable > xf86config. > > Please, try the update via <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html</A">http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html</A</A>> -- this > WWW documents explains the background. > Why should we use xf86config? according to your website, both xf86config XF86Setup work, see: "Now both the text based setup tool as well as the graphical setup tool have been updated to support our servers as well. You can download the XF86Setup tool here." XF86Setup worked fine when I used it last night. Steve Cohen > -- > CeBIT '98: 5/A61 and 3/C33 > Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH Fax +49-911-3206727 > ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 Mo & Th 13:00-18:00: > <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany Hotline +49-911-3247130 > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Phil I would suggest that you use Yast to add the new disk to fstab and to partition it. I tried to add a partition WITHOUT yast and it screwed up the reboot. There may be a trick to avoid yast but I see no reason to find it. Yast does it all anyway. HTH wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk Date: Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 09:03:09PM -0900 In reply to:phillip mannie Quoting phillip mannie(phil(a)deepthought.iao.net.suse.de): > > > It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding > a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a > couple of Red Hat partitions). I can mount the LINUX partitions, so I > believe that the physical installation is working. I was just about to > run (as root) fdisk /dev/hdb, create a partition or maybe 2, format > and add the new partition(s) to the fstab when it occured to me that > perhaps I should be using some S.u.S.E. provided tool for this. > > I didn't see anything obvious in YaST, so my question would be ought I > just do this by hand (as it were), or does S.u.S.E. provide some > preferred tool for preparing new HD space on a running system? Any > pitfalls anyone has encountered with this seemingly simple operation? > > BTW, for what it's worth, I've used SCO, IRIX 5.3, Slackware, Red Hat > and Caldera, but I seem to be sticking with S.u.S.E. for personal (and > increasingly, for business) use. SCO is rock solid and free for > personal use (though hardly so for commercial projects). IRIX is also > a fine system (if you happen to have MIPS boxes). Slackware seems to > run on just about any hardware (it's running right now on a 386 4Mb > system on the other desk). Red Hat is easy to use and I like rpms a > lot. > > To make a long story short, I have yet to see a *bad* LINUX > distribution and any LINUX is twice the OS of its direct M$ > counterpart. I'll confess that YaST confuses me a bit, but not enough > to prevent me from installing the system I want (though it takes me a > couple of tries, even after having installed 5.0 several times). I > like the S.u.S.E. window managers, X servers and choice of application > and utility software. I like the configuration update utility (though > it's not perfect and will overwrite your carefully crafted .~rc files > if you don't take care). I have nothing bad to say about any LINUX > distribution I've tried, but I'll be sticking with S.u.S.E. for a > while. > > TIA for any new HD advice, > phil > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | | on WINDOZE | +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Some good words
by marcus＠dynagon.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

> I even modified my lilo.conf with > EMACs when my > lilo booted to linux irrespective of my "dos" typing. ( I still need DOS , > for the time being, for > some software related to my shipping work). tried the DOS emulator? then you wouldn't even to reboot and you could get even more work done ;) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Why does Yast keep starting up?
by mantel＠suse.de 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Hi, On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Steve Cohen wrote: > I didn't reboot it then. I waited, did what it said, and it asked me for the > 2nd cd and then the third. I know it is finished with the install. I think I > put 500MB into the /usr partition. After YaST has installed all packages, some scripts get started which need some time to finish. You can watch it on console 9. If you reboot the system before these scripts are finished, YaST will be restarted. In the next release we will require people to press ENTER so they are able to read the text that informs about this thing. Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox X-server
by ke＠suse.de 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Michael Clark <mclark(a)datsrvr.datsit.com> writes: | Try using the XF86Setup program instead of xf86config to configure your | x-windows. XF86Setup won't automatically give you the virtual | resolution. In general, that's a good hint; but at this moment to configure the XSuSE servers you'll need to use the old fashioned, but reliable xf86config. Please, try the update via <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html</A">http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html</A</A>> -- this WWW documents explains the background. -- CeBIT '98: 5/A61 and 3/C33 Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH Fax +49-911-3206727 ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 Mo & Th 13:00-18:00: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany Hotline +49-911-3247130 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox X-server
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Try using the XF86Setup program instead of xf86config to configure your x-windows. XF86Setup won't automatically give you the virtual resolution. Otherwise, you can edit your XF86Config file and delete any lines that are similar to this Virtual 1024 768 That is what makes your virtual screen. mc Anatoli Iouditski wrote: > Hello, > > I hav just installed Suse Matrox X-server on 2 PII PC with > Matrox Mill 2 board (not the xsvga but xmatrox which comes with > 5.1 distribution). I have set the monitor and all, > however some problems accured: > 1) though I have asked for NO virtual display, the X starts with > a virtual display of 1280x1024 and smallest resolution (640x480). > Is there any way to desactivate it. I have parsed the XF86Config > and commented all the references on ViewPort, but...; > 2) I typically receive a lot of garbage on the screen when moving > the viewport over the virtual display, as well a when after locking > the screen; > 3) one of the screens shows a strange trace after the pointer > in 1184x856 (smth) resolution, though it works ok in 1280x1024. > > Would be glad to get some tips, > > Anatoli Iouditski tel (0033) 4 76 61 53 37 > INRIA Rhone-Alpes fax (0033) 4 76 61 52 07 > 655 avenue de l'Europe > 38330 Montbonnot St. Martin > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Why does Yast keep starting up?
by mperry＠basin.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 07:09:19AM -0500, Steve Cohen stated: > > This may have been asked a couple weeks ago, but I don't remember what > the answer was. Anyway... > > When I start linux, Yast seems to think that my install hasn't finished, > starts up, decides that there is nothing to install, finishes, and then > all the junk in rc.config gets loaded. I looked through the bootup > scripts, and I see where it is starting up yast, and I am sure I can > comment out the lines. But before I do: > > 1) Why does it think there are files to install? > > 2) Is there a good reason to leave it intact? > > > Steve Cohen Same problem I had after upgrading to 5.1 from 5. YAST ran a few times claiming there were things left to be done but it would not do anything after installing. I then ran yast by itself after having the system up for awhile and I had a number of packages left to install to finish. I believe at this point some of the libs I compiled got messed up and links became broken. Anyhow, I ran yast after the system was up, it found the packages, installed them, and then I had to clean things up a bit. I would like to know why yast when run from the startup says there is nothing left to do but when it runs from a command line later on, it finds the packages to instal. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Why does Yast keep starting up?
by steve＠toad.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

I didn't reboot it then. I waited, did what it said, and it asked me for the 2nd cd and then the third. I know it is finished with the install. I think I put 500MB into the /usr partition. Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > This is the "problem" I mentioned a while back ... > > Right after yast "looked like it was done", I'll bet you rebooted before > you let yast finish the initial install - you probably didn't think twice > about rebooting after getting the login prompt after the system does its > first initialization. > > I wonder if you've got all the packages installed as well. If you run yast > now, does it tell you that a boatload of packages were not installed? > > I'd re-install and make sure you wait for everything to finish before > rebooting. Watch the console messages at Alt-F9 ... it takes a while to > unpack a ton of man pages and other stuff. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox X-server
by Anatoli.Iouditski＠inrialpes.fr 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Hello, I hav just installed Suse Matrox X-server on 2 PII PC with Matrox Mill 2 board (not the xsvga but xmatrox which comes with 5.1 distribution). I have set the monitor and all, however some problems accured: 1) though I have asked for NO virtual display, the X starts with a virtual display of 1280x1024 and smallest resolution (640x480). Is there any way to desactivate it. I have parsed the XF86Config and commented all the references on ViewPort, but...; 2) I typically receive a lot of garbage on the screen when moving the viewport over the virtual display, as well a when after locking the screen; 3) one of the screens shows a strange trace after the pointer in 1184x856 (smth) resolution, though it works ok in 1280x1024. Would be glad to get some tips, Anatoli Iouditski tel (0033) 4 76 61 53 37 INRIA Rhone-Alpes fax (0033) 4 76 61 52 07 655 avenue de l'Europe 38330 Montbonnot St. Martin -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Some good words
by seamar＠singnet.com.sg 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

I am enormously making use of this discussion group and its feedback. I only started learning Linux in December 1997. I tried Debian, Caldera and then Red Hat. I thought Red Hat was the best distribution compared with the other two I tried. With Red Hat I had finally a Linux machine working, but my productivity was CERO in my daily work, because I did not have the sufficient knowledge / experience with Linux & the X Window System yet . I switched to SuSE initially only for one reason. It had the XNvidia driver to make use of my STB Velocity 128 videocard. The good thing about SuSE is that a lot of work is 'automated' for beginners.:With YaST, with SuSEconfig and other little things, which makes you start working! Having SuSE Linux 5.1 and this discussion group, I managed meanwhile to get my internet connection working ( installing ezppp), I recompiled my kernel to include PPP and sound capabilities for my exotic sound card. I even modified my lilo.conf with EMACs when my lilo booted to linux irrespective of my "dos" typing. ( I still need DOS , for the time being, for some software related to my shipping work). The issue here is, from my point of view, that SuSE managed to offer a Linux distribution which helps to make the first steps into being productive under this operational platform. It is not enough to hate everything Microsoft does to switch to Linux. You need, as a starter, an environment which gives you a hand to overcome this huge wall which is sometimes Linux. Ok there are some problems, but this bugs should be corrected by receiving the updates with a subscription. As a matter of fact, have a look at the webside of Red Hat and check the "erratas" of their RedHat 5.0 version. Is a long list! SuSE well done and keep on the good work.! Mit freundlichen Gruessen. Mario Jose Medjeral // Singapore seamar(a)singnet.com.sg -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Why does Yast keep starting up?
by netd＠fastrans.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Steve Cohen wrote: > When I start linux, Yast seems to think that my install hasn't finished, > starts up, decides that there is nothing to install, finishes, and then > all the junk in rc.config gets loaded. I looked through the bootup > scripts, and I see where it is starting up yast, and I am sure I can > comment out the lines. But before I do: > > 1) Why does it think there are files to install? > > 2) Is there a good reason to leave it intact? > > Steve Cohen This is the "problem" I mentioned a while back ... Right after yast "looked like it was done", I'll bet you rebooted before you let yast finish the initial install - you probably didn't think twice about rebooting after getting the login prompt after the system does its first initialization. I wonder if you've got all the packages installed as well. If you run yast now, does it tell you that a boatload of packages were not installed? I'd re-install and make sure you wait for everything to finish before rebooting. Watch the console messages at Alt-F9 ... it takes a while to unpack a ton of man pages and other stuff. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Why does Yast keep starting up?
by urs＠digital-mines.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Steve Cohen wrote: > This may have been asked a couple weeks ago, but I don't remember what > the answer was. Anyway... > When I start linux, Yast seems to think that my install hasn't finished, > starts up, decides that there is nothing to install, finishes, and then > all the junk in rc.config gets loaded. I looked through the bootup > scripts, and I see where it is starting up yast, and I am sure I can > comment out the lines. But before I do: I had the same problem after updating my machine from 5.0 to 5.1. > 1) Why does it think there are files to install? I don't know why the installation script doesn't finish correctly but I found the file that triggers the start of the installation scripts after boot up. > 2) Is there a good reason to leave it intact? delete or rename the file /usr/lib/YaST/.configured2, reboot the system and the installation scripts and YaST will not come up again (at least on my system). hope that works for your system as well urs -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Why does Yast keep starting up?
by steve＠toad.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

This may have been asked a couple weeks ago, but I don't remember what the answer was. Anyway... When I start linux, Yast seems to think that my install hasn't finished, starts up, decides that there is nothing to install, finishes, and then all the junk in rc.config gets loaded. I looked through the bootup scripts, and I see where it is starting up yast, and I am sure I can comment out the lines. But before I do: 1) Why does it think there are files to install? 2) Is there a good reason to leave it intact? Steve Cohen -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] adding to a raid0 device
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Hello, /* after i made my mdadd'ed and mdran my devices SuSE linux picked right up on my /dev/md0 after a restart -- way to go SuSE! i was expecting the scripts to now know about them. */ Question: on a side note, i just configured two ide drives as raid0 drives.. anyone ever been able to add drive space to an /dev/md device and not lose the filesystem on the original disks (ie. md)? i have /dev/md0 as raid0,8k /dev/hdb /dev/hdd thanks in advance! -jeremy brand ---------------------------------------------------------------- /* * [...] Note that 120 sec is defined in the protocol as the maximum * possible RTT. I guess we'll have to use something other than TCP * to talk to the University of Mars. * PAWS allows us longer timeouts and large windows, so once implemented * ftp to mars will work nicely. */ (from /usr/src/linux/net/inet/tcp.c, concerning RTT [retransmission timeout]) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] BitchX
by marcus＠dynagon.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Allright i just got S.u.S.E. and i think it's one of the best distrib's i've tried so far, but i'm trying to install BitchX and i'm getting a message saying it's having trouble finding 'tgetent' or something like that? anyone know what this could be caused from thanks. Marcus Semanek marcus(a)dynagon.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by netd＠fastrans.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

--------------780D1BD437AA129668BDF5FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Perry wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 09:03:09PM -0900, phillip mannie stated: > > > > It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding > > a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a > > couple of Red Hat partitions). [...] > > I added a second hard disk for storage space, for a backup medium using > bru 2000, and for a place to deposit stuff. I ran fdisk, craeted the data > partition, ran mk2fs or whatever its called, and added the mount point to > my fstab. It mounts now with each boot time. I think for the lack of > anything better I mount the volume as /stuff. I did not use any tools > like yast. I just used the regular ole stuff and all worked quite well. > I have a 3 gig and a 2 gig drive with a 3 gig scsi drive waiting in the > wings. > That's it. fdisk the new drive as you want it, run mkfs on ext2 file systems, as mentioned above. Format whatever else under its respective os.(i.e. DOS / Win95 / OS2 partitions) I like using the old fashioned fdisk. I ususally keep a Slackware scsinet diskette, and a color.gz diskette in my tool kit, because I can boot up a majority of machines with these diskettes and run the Linux fdisk. The Yast fdisk - I like it - but it requries a CD in the drive to use it - and what if I have a machine with no CD - that sux then. Wish I could just run it off the boot diskette ... Mount points: I have noticed that the common *nix convention seems to be to mount additional drives under /mnt. Use the mkdir command and make a dir, say for example /mnt/3gb-1 - descriptive but not cumbersome, then add that directory to your /etc/fstab like this: Once they're in this file, you can issue the mount command like this: mount /mnt/3gb-1 and it should mount. A successful mount returns no messages. Sample /etc/fstab: # # # 200mb SCSI Quantum (game drive) # /dev/sda1 /mnt/cfg ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/sda2 /mnt/w95 vfat defaults 1 1 # # 2gb Seagate SCSI # /dev/sdb1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/sdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0 # # 4gb Seagate SCSI # /dev/sdc1 /mnt/4gb-1 vfat defaults 1 1 /dev/sdc2 /mnt/4gb-2 ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/sdc3 /mnt/4gb-3 ext2 defaults 1 1 # # Remote mounts via NFS # # Address and remote share mount point File system Parameters 192.168.10.10:/ /mnt/computer_A nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 192.168.10.20:/c /mnt/computer_B nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr # # CD ROM # /dev/scd0 /cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto,user 0 0 # # PROC none /proc proc defaults 0 0 --------------780D1BD437AA129668BDF5FA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Michael Perry wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 09:03:09PM -0900, phillip mannie stated: > > It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding > a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a > couple of Red Hat partitions). [...] I added a second hard disk for storage space, for a backup medium using bru 2000, and for a place to deposit stuff. I ran fdisk, craeted the data partition, ran mk2fs or whatever its called, and added the mount point to my fstab. It mounts now with each boot time. I think for the lack of anything better I mount the volume as /stuff. I did not use any tools like yast. I just used the regular ole stuff and all worked quite well. I have a 3 gig and a 2 gig drive with a 3 gig scsi drive waiting in the wings. </BLOCKQUOTE> That's it. fdisk the new drive as you want it, run mkfs on ext2 file systems, as mentioned above. Format whatever else under its respective os.(i.e. DOS / Win95 / OS2 partitions) I like using the old fashioned fdisk. I ususally keep a Slackware scsinet diskette, and a color.gz diskette in my tool kit, because I can boot up a majority of machines with these diskettes and run the Linux fdisk. The Yast fdisk - I like it - but it requries a CD in the drive to use it - and what if I have a machine with no CD - that sux then. Wish I could just run it off the boot diskette ... Mount points: I have noticed that the common *nix convention seems to be to mount additional drives under /mnt. Use the mkdir command and make a dir, say for example <TT>/mnt/3gb-1</TT> - descriptive but not cumbersome, then add that directory to your /etc/fstab like this:<TT></TT> Once they're in this file, you can issue the mount command like this: <TT> mount /mnt/3gb-1</TT> and it should mount. A successful mount returns no messages. Sample /etc/fstab: <TT>#</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT># 200mb SCSI Quantum (game drive)</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT>/dev/sda1 /mnt/cfg ext2 defaults 1 1</TT> <TT>/dev/sda2 /mnt/w95 vfat defaults 1 1</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT># 2gb Seagate SCSI</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT>/dev/sdb1 / ext2 defaults 1 1</TT> <TT>/dev/sdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT># 4gb Seagate SCSI</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT>/dev/sdc1 /mnt/4gb-1 vfat defaults 1 1</TT> <TT>/dev/sdc2 /mnt/4gb-2 ext2 defaults 1 1</TT> <TT>/dev/sdc3 /mnt/4gb-3 ext2 defaults 1 1</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT># Remote mounts via NFS</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT># Address and remote share mount point File system Parameters</TT> <TT>192.168.10.10:/ /mnt/computer_A nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr</TT> <TT>192.168.10.20:/c /mnt/computer_B nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT># CD ROM</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT>/dev/scd0 /cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto,user 0 0</TT> <TT>#</TT> <TT># PROC</TT> <TT>none /proc proc defaults 0 0</TT> </HTML> --------------780D1BD437AA129668BDF5FA-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Postscript Fonts Question
by netd＠fastrans.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

I have two SuSE machines, one is my print server and dialup gateway, the other is a workstation. When printing from the workstation to the print server machine, jobs work fine, except that the fonts never seem to make it, and everything always prints in Times Roman, no matter what I use on the workstation. I copied all of the same fonts and fontmap over to the print server's Ghostscript font directory - was that necessary, or is that only part of the fix - because it didn't fix the probelm. What else should I be doing to fix this? (Incidently, I have figured out how to make other fonts available to my system. I've added fonts from an NT Adobe Photoshop CD, and some from WP7 - using that type1inst utility from the GIMP resources page - but I still have the problem when printing) Thanks -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by mperry＠basin.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 09:03:09PM -0900, phillip mannie stated: > > It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding > a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a > couple of Red Hat partitions). I can mount the LINUX partitions, so I > believe that the physical installation is working. I was just about to > run (as root) fdisk /dev/hdb, create a partition or maybe 2, format > and add the new partition(s) to the fstab when it occured to me that > perhaps I should be using some S.u.S.E. provided tool for this. > I added a second hard disk for storage space, for a backup medium using bru 2000, and for a place to deposit stuff. I ran fdisk, craeted the data partition, ran mk2fs or whatever its called, and added the mount point to my fstab. It mounts now with each boot time. I think for the lack of anything better I mount the volume as /stuff. I did not use any tools like yast. I just used the regular ole stuff and all worked quite well. I have a 3 gig and a 2 gig drive with a 3 gig scsi drive waiting in the wings. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] adding a new hard disk
by phil＠deepthought.iao.net.suse.de 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

It's time to add a little room to my S.u.S.E. 5.0 machine. I'm adding a Fujitsu 1.7Gb EIDE drive (which formally contained some wincrap and a couple of Red Hat partitions). I can mount the LINUX partitions, so I believe that the physical installation is working. I was just about to run (as root) fdisk /dev/hdb, create a partition or maybe 2, format and add the new partition(s) to the fstab when it occured to me that perhaps I should be using some S.u.S.E. provided tool for this. I didn't see anything obvious in YaST, so my question would be ought I just do this by hand (as it were), or does S.u.S.E. provide some preferred tool for preparing new HD space on a running system? Any pitfalls anyone has encountered with this seemingly simple operation? BTW, for what it's worth, I've used SCO, IRIX 5.3, Slackware, Red Hat and Caldera, but I seem to be sticking with S.u.S.E. for personal (and increasingly, for business) use. SCO is rock solid and free for personal use (though hardly so for commercial projects). IRIX is also a fine system (if you happen to have MIPS boxes). Slackware seems to run on just about any hardware (it's running right now on a 386 4Mb system on the other desk). Red Hat is easy to use and I like rpms a lot. To make a long story short, I have yet to see a *bad* LINUX distribution and any LINUX is twice the OS of its direct M$ counterpart. I'll confess that YaST confuses me a bit, but not enough to prevent me from installing the system I want (though it takes me a couple of tries, even after having installed 5.0 several times). I like the S.u.S.E. window managers, X servers and choice of application and utility software. I like the configuration update utility (though it's not perfect and will overwrite your carefully crafted .~rc files if you don't take care). I have nothing bad to say about any LINUX distribution I've tried, but I'll be sticking with S.u.S.E. for a while. TIA for any new HD advice, phil -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors
by mperry＠basin.com 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

On Tue, Feb 10, 1998 at 08:00:48PM -0800, vic stated: > > As a matter of concern...why would anyone default(or set) to a white > background, > or any color scheme featuring dark colored text on a light background? > This can > be proven to be ergometrically(sic) counter to the brains normal > functioning of > reading light as foreground and dark as background, not to mention(i > just did) > the sunburn on the eyeballs that results from a blareingly bright > screen... > Unfortunately, due to the use of default use of black text(in > unpredictable locations) > in many online documents,i am forced to compromise and use a paleish > lime green background > for my orange(or lime-green?!?)text, ewhich is normally set on a black > or indigo back ground.. > I know that this color scheme harkens back to the old monochrome > days(and i use color, where > applicable to express information)(my little computer brainiac brother > reacted with an "EWWW/") > yet on the outside i figure there was some reason for it(maybe it was > the low cost of orange and green phosphors, i dunno... Well thanks for the ergonomic lecture. I still want to set the background to white in slrn though; even if I am commiting a ergo faux pas. I did find out how this could be done thanks to JED (developer of slrn), I personally do not like peach as a medium to read news. So the question remains how to set other colros when a program like slrn runs. To force the white, I understand now. I think the color white has been fashionable for a long period of time as a print medium. But this really travels kind of far afield and into other domains from the original question about slrn. > *your friend in the periphery* > #FrAcTeL# > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors
by maylward＠sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

>Just out of curiousity, where did you hear that we see a light shade as >foreground? We have been using white paper with black letters for >centuries. > >Steve Cohen Have you ever tried making black paper and white ink ?? It is true, light colours are seen as foreground (yellow is best) and blue makes the best background for ease of reading. This is due to the human eye's varying response across the visible frequency range of light. We are almost blue-blind in comparison to other colours and yellow has a very narrow response peak - so contrast is maximised. If you spend a lot of time at a screen then light on dark is much easier on the eyes. It ia an intriguing subject when you look into it. Hope this helps. Regards, Matt -- Matt Aylward Dept of Geography (GIS) email: maylward(a)sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au Linux Lover and GIS Geek ..............LINUX..................... OS for the people by the people -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors
by steve＠toad.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Just out of curiousity, where did you hear that we see a light shade as foreground? We have been using white paper with black letters for centuries. Steve Cohen P.S. Sorry for writing something off the topic of this mailing list. -----Original Message----- From: vic <vhearn(a)wenet.net> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors >> -- >As a matter of concern...why would anyone default(or set) to a white >background, >or any color scheme featuring dark colored text on a light background? >This can >be proven to be ergometrically(sic) counter to the brains normal >functioning of >reading light as foreground and dark as background, not to mention(i >just did) >the sunburn on the eyeballs that results from a blareingly bright >screen... > Unfortunately, due to the use of default use of black text(in >unpredictable locations) >in many online documents,i am forced to compromise and use a paleish >lime green background >for my orange(or lime-green?!?)text, ewhich is normally set on a black >or indigo back ground.. > I know that this color scheme harkens back to the old monochrome >days(and i use color, where >applicable to express information)(my little computer brainiac brother >reacted with an "EWWW/") >yet on the outside i figure there was some reason for it(maybe it was >the low cost of orange and green phosphors, i dunno... > >*your friend in the periphery* >#FrAcTeL# >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors
by vhearn＠wenet.net 11 Feb '98

11 Feb '98

Michael Perry wrote: > I set it to be white as a background color by > default. All of the applications run in white (like mutt and ncftp). ? I know that there > is someone out there who hoards these types of questions and the answers > thereto. > > Thanks. > > -- > > --Michael Perry-- > mperry(a)basin.com > -- As a matter of concern...why would anyone default(or set) to a white background, or any color scheme featuring dark colored text on a light background? This can be proven to be ergometrically(sic) counter to the brains normal functioning of reading light as foreground and dark as background, not to mention(i just did) the sunburn on the eyeballs that results from a blareingly bright screen... Unfortunately, due to the use of default use of black text(in unpredictable locations) in many online documents,i am forced to compromise and use a paleish lime green background for my orange(or lime-green?!?)text, ewhich is normally set on a black or indigo back ground.. I know that this color scheme harkens back to the old monochrome days(and i use color, where applicable to express information)(my little computer brainiac brother reacted with an "EWWW/") yet on the outside i figure there was some reason for it(maybe it was the low cost of orange and green phosphors, i dunno... *your friend in the periphery* #FrAcTeL# -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Please help: problem installing KDE
by lmib＠geocities.com 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

William G. Madsen wrote: > > I have installed several of the kde rpm packages, but when I try to > install kbase I get a "failed dependency" message telling me that > kbase needs libgif.so.2. Well, libgif.so.2 is in /opt/kde/lib as a > link to libgif.so.2.0.3. Since kbase does not complain about the > other libraries it needs (which are also in /opt/kde/lib), I wonder > what else I need to do. try to install kdesupport before other kde packages -- ------------------------------------------- Why don't you take a look here? <A HREF="http://lmib.home.ml.org"><A HREF="http://lmib.home.ml.org</A">http://lmib.home.ml.org</A</A>> -------------------------------------------/:wq - Abt -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by brauki＠cww.de 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

Hello Jim, > > Hello all! > Thanks for your help, and tonight, while watching the replay of Monday > Nitro, i will be linux~connected. > I read that Mr. Boonan<? sorry if i am wrong, sir> has a lilo config > problem. I too have one. I can't seem to get the kernel to accept the > fact i had to install the scsi adaptec 1543<?> controller as a module. > If i don't boot with the rescue, i ALWAYS get 'kernel panic: VFS can't > load fs on 02:00'. As you confuse me with the rest of you mail (I deleted), do you boot from this SCSI Controler? If yes, you entered the room of the faithful few that belive you can boot from an device that does not yet know of it's existance. If you boot from this controler, (rtfm i should say ;) build the SCSI support DIRECT INTO the Kernel, not as a module. That won't frighten you kernel and make it stop panicing. Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Please help: problem installing KDE
by billmadsen＠worldnet.att.net 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

I have installed several of the kde rpm packages, but when I try to install kbase I get a "failed dependency" message telling me that kbase needs libgif.so.2. Well, libgif.so.2 is in /opt/kde/lib as a link to libgif.so.2.0.3. Since kbase does not complain about the other libraries it needs (which are also in /opt/kde/lib), I wonder what else I need to do. Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. billmadsen(a)worldnet.att.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] suse linux
by dogluvr＠skuz.net 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

Can someone tell me more about suse linux.. im nre to linux, Im running slackware, but Im always open to something newer and perhaps a bit easier for the beginner. Thank You Dogluvr de KA0UKO -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mail Headers
by ke＠suse.de 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

Bodo Bauer <bb(a)suse.de> writes: | It's a feature of 'majordomo'. You can set in in the list | configuration file... Kind of a feature ;-) You better use a specialized header line like this: X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e Majordomo can be configured this way, too. But as always: de gustibus non est disputandum ;) -- Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH Fax +49-911-3206727 ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 Mo & Th 13:00-18:00: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany Hotline +49-911-3247130 CeBIT '98: 5/A61 and 3/C33 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KUDOS to SuSE System and Support
by nwobone＠hotmail.com 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

Hey Dave: isn't SuSE just, tooooo, SWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTT???? :) nWobone -- Linux RULES, windoze Drools ;p -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by nwobone＠hotmail.com 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

Hello all! Thanks for your help, and tonight, while watching the replay of Monday Nitro, i will be linux~connected. I read that Mr. Boonan<? sorry if i am wrong, sir> has a lilo config problem. I too have one. I can't seem to get the kernel to accept the fact i had to install the scsi adaptec 1543<?> controller as a module. If i don't boot with the rescue, i ALWAYS get 'kernel panic: VFS can't load fs on 02:00'. As for the way i built my lilo config, i used YaST; i set up linux first (for when i boot my machine, after the wife has used win95, and find i have to go to the bathroom...), calling Linux, then choosing to boot linux, then choosing the kernel from the / and choosing the mbr of the win95 hd, since it's the only one that she can boot into. then i set it for windoze, on hda1, loading dos and letting it sit there. it seems to work, 'cept that one minor problem... thanks for listening to me drivel nWobone -- Linux RULES, windoze Drools ;p~~ -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] slrn, rxvt, and colors
by mperry＠basin.com 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

Just a question I have been pondering for awhile... No big prizes to give away but the satisfaction of a good answer :). I run slrn in an rxvt terminal from fvwm2. I set it to be white as a background color by default. All of the applications run in white (like mutt and ncftp). When I launch slrn 0945 it likes to change to something like a peach color. Editing windows retain the white color. Is this something hardcoded into slrn? Where can one change this color? I know that there is someone out there who hoards these types of questions and the answers thereto. Thanks. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Graphics Tablets
by bb＠suse.de 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

zentara wrote: > > Hi, > Suse installation is going well for me. > Now I'm getting greedy. > > I have a Drawing Slate II graphics > tablet that replaces the mouse under > win 95 and NT. > > Does anyone know how to hook it up > under linux? > Is there a separate module to be > loaded for graphics tablets? > > There is nothing on Calcomp's > website except some .drv file > which supposedly runs under com1 only on SCO. > > I would like to set it up to run > separately from my mouse. > My serial mouse is com1, > I would like the tablet on com3. > > Anyone know if it's possible? Hi, I don't know if your tablet is supported, but some are. Look in the XF86Config man page: The optional XInput section is used to specify configura tion options for the extended input devices. For some OSs, the extended device support is dynamically loaded, and in this case you need to specify which Modules to load in the Module section (this is documented above). Each extended device has its own subsection. To enable an extended device the corresponding subsection must appear. The subsections names are: Joystick (only on supported systems ie. Linux, FreeBSD and NetBSD) WacomStylus (stylus of a Wacom tablet) WacomEraser (eraser of a Wacom tablet) WacomCursor (cursor of a Wacom tablet) Elographics (Elographics touchscreen) SummaSketch (SummaSketch tablet) Mouse (Mouse) Ciao, BB PS: I'm not a X expert, so please ask me more detailed questions about tablets... :-( -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 http//www.suse.com Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Graphics Tablets
by zentara＠mindspring.com 10 Feb '98

10 Feb '98

Hi, Suse installation is going well for me. Now I'm getting greedy. I have a Drawing Slate II graphics tablet that replaces the mouse under win 95 and NT. Does anyone know how to hook it up under linux? Is there a separate module to be loaded for graphics tablets? There is nothing on Calcomp's website except some .drv file which supposedly runs under com1 only on SCO. I would like to set it up to run separately from my mouse. My serial mouse is com1, I would like the tablet on com3. Anyone know if it's possible? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mail Headers
by bb＠suse.de 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

John Totten wrote: > > Can you tell me how you put those cute tags on the email > headers that distinguish the list originating the post - in this case > "[S.u.S.E Linux]". This has been a boon to my filtering hundereds of > emails daily. I'd like to show other lists's how to do the same. Granted > you can get smart at other levels but this method helps everyone > irrespective of their computing skills. It's a feature of 'majordomo'. You can set in in the list configuration file... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 http//www.suse.com Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] virtual mode in xserver
by bb＠suse.de 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

curator wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just clobbered my old XF86Config. My new set-up defaults to virtual > screen scrolling - even though I am not using the "virtual" keyword in > XF86Config. The server says it is turning on virtual ops because my > screen mode is less than 1024. > > I fixed this once before with an entry somewhere - anybody remember what > the virtual supression command is?? > Make sure, that the screen-section in your /etc/XF86config does not contaion a resulution higher than your startup resolution, and remove any 'virtual' lines. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 http//www.suse.com Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The system does get in a hangup during installation
by jboonen＠worldonline.nl 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Hi all, I did find out the reason of the problem. I did install a minimum system at first. And after that i did use the lilo boot up disk of slackware. By doing this the system did boot up in the SCSI kernel 2.0.0 . This one is very stable. I did also install linux it did work perfectly. But after starting up via lilo the system did bootup under linux 2.0.32 . And the system did get in hang-up quit soon. Can someone help me how i can make a good kernel, that is stable and how i can put it on my boot disk? Thank you very much. Regards, Joop Boonen. JJM Boonen wrote: > Dear Madam, Sir, > > I did have the following problem. During installation the system does > get in a hang up a lot of times. During installation of the packages. > When i partition the hard disks and than assign partitions and going to > the end, ending yast the stem does get for sure in a hang up mode. Up > till now i haven't been able to install the Suse linux. With slackware i > > haven't had any problems. > > Do i need to use parameters for my SCSI card? NCR 53C810 ? > > Can you please help me and tell me what the reason of these problems > are? After the installation didn't work i have installed slackware > without any problem. :-( > > Thank you very much. > > Regards, > > JJM Boonen. > > I have the followinf computer system > > processor IBM P200+ > mainboard: PC Chips M570 VX Pro chipset (Via) > Memory 32 MB SDRam and 32 MB FPRam > Videocard: Matrox mystique with rainbow runner > Audio card PCI: Asus PCI-AXP201 > Harddisk: Quantum Viking 4.3 GB and Fujitsu 1 MB both SCSI > CD Rom : Toshiba 4 speed SCSI > Scanner: Mustel 1200SP > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by jboonen＠worldonline.nl 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Hi all, I did find out the reason of the problem. I did install a minimum system at first. And after that i did use the lilo boot up disk of slackware. By doing this the system did boot up in the SCSI kernel 2.0.0 . This one is very stable. I did also install linux it did work perfectly. But after starting up via lilo the system did bootup under linux 2.0.32 . And the system did get in hang-up quit soon. Can someone help me how i can make a good kernel, that is stable and how i can put it on my boot disk? Thank you very much. Regards, Joop Boonen. JJM Boonen wrote: > Dear Madam, Sir, > > I do have the following problem with S.U.S.E. 5.1. > When i have installed Lilo and i restart my computer it only shows only > a L and a blinking cursor. > > I don't seen to be able to change that. What can i do? I have a quantum > viking hard disk and a NCR 810 controller and a VX pro main board and a > Cyrix (IBM) P200+ . > > Thank you very much. > > Regards, > > Joop Boonen. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HELP- How to stop hostname appending
by deem＠wdm.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Carsten Hoeger <choeger(a)suse.de> wrote: > > Perhaps your Ishmail is the source of all your trouble?!? > Does it set the From-Address by its own? > You may have a deeper look at its configuration or try to use Pine, where > you can set your From-Header perfectly... :-) > > > >From your Header: > > [...] > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HELP- How to stop hostname appending > X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-970722-linux <<A HREF="http://www.ishmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.ishmail.com</A">http://www.ishmail.com</A</A>>> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > [...] > > mfG, > Carsten Hoeger Hi helped Pat and WALA...Ishmail fixed the trouble. One nice mailer. I use it also and it is nice so nice to route all the SPAM to a designated folder named appropriately. Regards -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] xdm/kdm and bash
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Hello all! I have a small quirk with kdm and kde. I recently got the kdm displaymanager to start at boot by setting run level 3 in /etc/inittab and setting the displaymanager in YaST. But, if I start an xterm bash window after logging in through kdm, I have none of my aliases (l for ls-la; la for ls-la; etc.) If I disable the kdm and login and startx, I have all of my aliases. What is different??? michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: SuSE Linux evaluation (Part 3)
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Hubert Followed instructions after first reading up on Lilo. As I expected, your instructions were perfect. You have, once again, shown why SuSE is such a good distribution. For those of us used to other distributions, SuSe is different, but it is so in a very good way. I have to thank you and the SuSE team for yet another "Job well done". Many Thanks for your help. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: SuSE Linux evaluation (Part 3) Date: Tue, Feb 03, 1998 at 10:55:07AM +0100 In reply to:To suse-linux-e Quoting Hubert Mantel(mantel(a)suse.de): > > Hi, > > On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > OK, I will put the SuSE kernel in the Slackware / dir. Have never had > > to do this before. Will it work if I just call the inage suseimage > > and have lilo load that? If that works it would be just as good as > > having the kernel where it should be. Except if I up-grade I'll have > > to remember to move the new kernel to Slackware. NO BIG DEAL tho > > You'll have to modify /etc/lilo.conf manually, because some defaults do > not apply in this case. Just do the following: > > mount /dev/hda1 /mnt (assuming /dev/hda1 is the slackware root) > mkdir /mnt/boot-suse (or whatever directory you like) > cp /vmlinuz /mnt/boot-suse > cp /boot/boot.b /mnt/boot-suse > > Now edit /etc/lilo.conf thus: > > boot=/dev/hda > read-only > timeout=100 > install=/mnt/boot-suse/boot.b > map=/mnt/boot-suse/map > > image=/mnt/vmlinuz (the location of the slackware kernel) > root=/dev/hda1 > label=slackware > > image=/mnt/boot-suse/vmlinuz > root=/dev/hda3 > label=suse > > Now run lilo and you should be able to switch between the systems. > > You need to use the same paths in your lilo.conf as your boot-partition is > mounted to. The above setup works this way: > > Tell lilo to install in the MBA (this is boot=/dev/hda) > Tell lilo where to find its second stage loader (this is boot.b and we > have made sure it is on a partition below cylinder 1024). We could use the > line "install=/mnt/boot/boot.b" IF slackware has the second stage loader > in /boot also AND IF slackware uses the same LILO-version as S.u.S.E. > Tell lilo to store its map file on the partition which is below Cyl 1024. > > The image sections tell lilo where to find the kernel images to load. They > are on a partition below cyl. 1024, too. > > It doesn't matter where you mount your slackware partition in order to > install lilo. But the paths need to be same you specify in /etc/lilo.conf, > of course. When lilo is installed, it calculates the physical positions of > all the files needed for booting and stores this information in its map > file. When actually booting, partitions or filesystems don't matter. LILO > just loads the sectors specified in its map file. Therefore you could > store all the files of the boot machinery on a DOS partition, too. > > All this is necessary because of the history of the PC. Hardware > manufacturers are doing lots of tricks in order to avoid these problems. > For example an Adaptec 2940 can be configured to use so-called "extended > translation". In this case, the SCSI-BIOS fakes the geometry and reports > only 600 cylinders but 64 heads instead of the true geometry which might > be 2400 cylinders and 16 heads. This can lead to other sorts of trouble > when you are using multiple OSs and one of them recognizes the translation > and the other doesn't ;-) > > I really recommend the excellent LILO documentation of Werner Almesberger > in /usr/doc/packages/lilo, which should be easy for you to read because > it's in english. Under X, just type "xdvi /usr/doc/packages/lilo/user.dvi" > Using lots of pictures, the fundamentals are explained very good. > > > > I think you mean 'Tschuess'... :-)) > > > > > What I tried to say is the southern German word for "see you later" > > no, that was "groos gott". I never knew how to spell it so I will go > > with Tschuess. Gee, Ciao is shorter to type, isn't it! > > Yes. And the Italians will understand it, too ;-) > > Hubert > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | | on WINDOZE | +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] broken java for netscape in 5.1?
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

I have installed netscape 4.03 & 4.04 on SuSE 5.1 and had no Java msgs at all during/after install. I do NOT have any of the java software from 5.1 installed, however. wayne Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] broken java for netscape in 5.1? Date: Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 10:11:59PM -0600 In reply to:To suse-linux-e Quoting Michael Lankton(satan(a)nfinity.com): > > > I have been running 5.1 for the last three days and all I can say is > wow. I am in love. I find this to be more configurable and hands on > than the other two distributions I have used. > The only problem I have encountered seems to be a slightly broken > handling of java. Has anyone else had any problems running netscape on > 5.1? I disable java and it runs fine. I got three broken > pipe/java-class msgs during netscape install. I have the java runtime, > devel and kaffe installed. I would appreciate any advice. > Other than that, SuSE 5.1 has made my favorite os even better. I love > it! > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | | on WINDOZE | +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] gordster: SCO "custom" package installer
by gordster＠juno.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

From: gordster To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: SCO "custom" package installer Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:33:20 Message-ID: <19980203.213234.5143.0.gordster(a)juno.com> Hi, y'all Does anyone know whether SuSE will install packages made for the SCO "custom" installation tool? Gordy Heitzman gordster(a)juno.com 612-429-9500 "Just say Suzy, and get on with it... " _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by pph128＠aix.zam.kfa-juelich.de 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Hi, Let me throw a snip of LILO documentation at you (I had a problem with LILO once, so I knew it was in the docs somewhere:-) ): (/usr/doc/packages/lilo/README line 2646 and further): <begin snapshot> LILO start message - - - - - - - - - When LILO loads itself, it displays the word "LILO". Each letter is printed before or after performing some specific action. If LILO fails at some point, the letters printed so far can be used to identify the problem. This is described in more detail in the technical overview. Note that some hex digits may be inserted after the first "L" if a transient disk problem occurs. Unless LILO stops at that point, generating an endless stream of error codes, such hex digits do not indicate a severe problem. (<nothing>) No part of LILO has been loaded. LILO either isn't installed or the partition on which its boot sector is located isn't active. L <error> ... The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started, but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section "Disk error codes".) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section "Disk geometry"). LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map installer. <end snapshot> If your interested int the docs and can't read them on your system I can mail it:-) greetz && good luck, Leon On Feb 9, 10:01am, Ron van Ostayen wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo > > > > ---------- > > From: JJM Boonen <jboonen(a)worldonline.nl> > > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo > > Date: Sunday, February 08, 1998 10:52 PM > > > > > > Dear Madam, Sir, > > > > I do have the following problem with S.U.S.E. 5.1. > > When i have installed Lilo and i restart my computer it only shows only > > a L and a blinking cursor. > > I had exactly the same problem on my system (P200, ide). After some trial > and error I got LILO working after a disabled the linear option in the LILO > setup. Maybe this will help. > > > > > I don't seen to be able to change that. What can i do? I have a quantum > > viking hard disk and a NCR 810 controller and a VX pro main board and a > > Cyrix (IBM) P200+ . > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > Regards, > > > > Joop Boonen. > > > > Ron van Ostayen > R.A.J.vanOstayen(a)WbMT.TUDelft.NL >-- End of excerpt from Ron van Ostayen -- ================================================================== Leon Widdershoven l.widdershoven(a)fz-juelich.de Institut fuer Plasmaphysik, Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH, D-52425 Juelich, Germany -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by R.A.J.vanOstayen＠wbmt.tudelft.nl 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

---------- > From: JJM Boonen <jboonen(a)worldonline.nl> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo > Date: Sunday, February 08, 1998 10:52 PM > > > Dear Madam, Sir, > > I do have the following problem with S.U.S.E. 5.1. > When i have installed Lilo and i restart my computer it only shows only > a L and a blinking cursor. I had exactly the same problem on my system (P200, ide). After some trial and error I got LILO working after a disabled the linear option in the LILO setup. Maybe this will help. > > I don't seen to be able to change that. What can i do? I have a quantum > viking hard disk and a NCR 810 controller and a VX pro main board and a > Cyrix (IBM) P200+ . > > Thank you very much. > > Regards, > > Joop Boonen. > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Ron van Ostayen R.A.J.vanOstayen(a)WbMT.TUDelft.NL -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HELP- How to stop hostname appending
by choeger＠suse.de 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Pat Wilke wrote: > I cannot subscribe directly as I have a static IP address from > my ISP, but as a dial-up user running SuSE 5.1, I do not know how > to stop my hostname from appending itself to the from addresss > when sending mail, therefor whenever users reply, I don't get the mail ? > > I have edited the /etc/rc.config and changed FROM_ADDRESS="alaska.net", > which is my ISP's domain, but I still get pwilke.alaska.net as > the sending domain ? Perhaps your Ishmail is the source of all your trouble?!? Does it set the From-Address by its own? You may have a deeper look at its configuration or try to use Pine, where you can set your From-Header perfectly... :-) From your Header: [...] Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HELP- How to stop hostname appending X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-970722-linux <<A HREF="http://www.ishmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.ishmail.com</A">http://www.ishmail.com</A</A>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 [...] mfG, Carsten Hoeger ------ Carsten Hoeger - S.u.S.E. GmbH - Gebhardtstr. 2 - 90762 Fuerth - Germany fax +49-911-3206727 web <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> In no sense, nonsense... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] broken java for netscape in 5.1?
by choeger＠suse.de 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Michael Lankton wrote: > I have been running 5.1 for the last three days and all I can say is > wow. I am in love. I find this to be more configurable and hands on > than the other two distributions I have used. > The only problem I have encountered seems to be a slightly broken > handling of java. Has anyone else had any problems running netscape on > 5.1? I disable java and it runs fine. I got three broken What about your CLASSPATH??? If you set your CLASSPATH, e.g. in your .bashrc, Netscape/Communicator tries to use this path. The Problem is, that it comes with it's own Java-Classes and these are the only, Netscape can use. I solved this Problem by unsetting the CLASSPATH and setting it to the right Netscape-classes in a Shell-Wrapper: export CLASSPATH=/opt/netscape/java > pipe/java-class msgs during netscape install. I have the java runtime, > devel and kaffe installed. I would appreciate any advice. > Other than that, SuSE 5.1 has made my favorite os even better. I love > it! mfG, Carsten Hoeger ------ Carsten Hoeger - S.u.S.E. GmbH - Gebhardtstr. 2 - 90762 Fuerth - Germany fax +49-911-3206727 web <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> In no sense, nonsense... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to post-install emacs??
by billmadsen＠worldnet.att.net 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

On Fri, 06 Feb 1998 20:04:35 GMT, you wrote: > >Somehow I failed to install emacs when I installed SUSE-Linux 5.1, and >now I don't know how to install it. I know there is a large program >called emacs on Disk-4, but what other programs should I install? >I tried to find out what package emacs was in, and the message told me >that emacs was not part of a package. > >Bill Madsen in St. Louis >billmadsen(a)worldnet.att.net >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Just color me stupid. It finally dawned on me to use yast. Bill Madsen -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM usage problems
by dedwards＠technologist.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Yes, Karl, It was vs 2.4.1 - it came off the SuSE5.0 Boxed set. And my problem was just as you surmised (and as I thought). I was using an olde r version of rpm. Thanks to your help, I was able to download/install both rpm and Yast from the S uSE ftp site successfully. Have loaded KDE and things are working A-OK. Thanks again. On 08-Feb-98 Karl Eichwalder wrote: > >"David E. Edwards" <dedwards(a)technologist.com> writes: > >| I have just recently (today) downloaded the KDE beta3 packages and >| the suswm upd ate from the suse_update directory at ftp.suse.com. I >| have tried to install and I am getting the following error: > >| "error -2 reading header: Unknown error" > >| What's going wrong? I don't seem to have problems except with this >| group of pac kages. > >| I am using rpm 2.4.1 > >Sorry, this rpm version is to old -- is it actually 2.4.1? Please enter >the command: > > rpm --version > >If you're using «S.u.S.E. Linux» 5.0, please update the base system >(serie "a") first or at least rpm and YaST from ><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/</A">ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/</A</A>> . If you are cpnnected to the >Internet, the following two commands are sufficient: > > rpm -U <A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/rpm/rpm.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/rpm/rpm.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/rpm/rpm.rpm</A</A>> > rpm -U <A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/a1/yast.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/a1/yast.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/a1/yast.rpm</A</A>> > >-- >Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH fon +49-911-3247130 >ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 fax +49-911-3206727 ><A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany mailbox +49-911-3247122 >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] KUDOS to SuSE System and Support
by dedwards＠technologist.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

I started with Slackware, jumped to Caldera, then RedHat, then Back to Caldera ( never could get Debian installed clean). Then I found SuSE (vs5.0). Put it on m y machine and liked what I saw. Had some questions about my trident board (stil l unanswered :-(, but generally happy. Then I found I could not install some more recent packages - posted a message - got several replies - SusE support directed me to the necessary packages to solv e my problem - but it entailed rpm'ing via ftp. Now I am not your most adventurous person, but I thought "what the heck". Kicke d off the necessary (supplied) commands, then went off to the store for car part s. Came back and "Voila!" packages installed. **I am Impressed!!** - great system!, great help! Thanks!! PS I think I'l repost my Trident video questions again:-)) Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] The system does get in a hangup during installation
by jboonen＠worldonline.nl 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Dear Madam, Sir, I did have the following problem. During installation the system does get in a hang up a lot of times. During installation of the packages. When i partition the hard disks and than assign partitions and going to the end, ending yast the stem does get for sure in a hang up mode. Up till now i haven't been able to install the Suse linux. With slackware i haven't had any problems. Do i need to use parameters for my SCSI card? NCR 53C810 ? Can you please help me and tell me what the reason of these problems are? After the installation didn't work i have installed slackware without any problem. :-( Thank you very much. Regards, JJM Boonen. I have the followinf computer system processor IBM P200+ mainboard: PC Chips M570 VX Pro chipset (Via) Memory 32 MB SDRam and 32 MB FPRam Videocard: Matrox mystique with rainbow runner Audio card PCI: Asus PCI-AXP201 Harddisk: Quantum Viking 4.3 GB and Fujitsu 1 MB both SCSI CD Rom : Toshiba 4 speed SCSI Scanner: Mustel 1200SP -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SCSI Controllers
by deem＠wdm.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

bobg <bob100(a)ibm.net> wrote: > > I'm going to get a new computer and am looking for the "perfect" controller. I > was going to get an Adaptec Ultra2 SCSI; but, for starters, it's not supported. > I have no experience with controllers outside of Adaptec and figure maybe it's > time to switch. Some properties I'd like the thing to have are: > > 1. Fast data rate > 2. Supports ultra wide SCSI hard disks > 3. Easy to hook up old SCSI-2 peripherals > 4. Supports > 7 devices > 5. Supports OS/2 Warp 4 > > Of course, the last is my cross to bear. Am chiefly interested in Linux. > > Would love to hear any suggestions/comments. > > Thanks! > I use an Adaptec AHA2940UW with 2 Seagate Barracuda's SCSI hd's, SCSI cdrom's, and my next SCSI tape drive. No probelems whatsoever. I run Linux exclusively on my box. My brother has a Mylex/Buslogic BT-958 in his box, with several SCSI devices and runs WIN95 and Linux with no problems. I would try either one as they are both great SCSI controllers. See <A HREF="http://www.adaptec.com/products/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.adaptec.com/products/index.html</A">http://www.adaptec.com/products/index.html</A</A>> & <A HREF="http://www.mylex.com/prodinfo/products2.html#scsihost"><A HREF="http://www.mylex.com/prodinfo/products2.html#scsihost</A">http://www.mylex.com/prodinfo/products2.html#scsihost</A</A>> for more info. Regards -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem(a)wdm.com No claim to fame, just saved by Grace. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X Windows Questions
by netd＠fastrans.net 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Karl Eichwalder wrote: [snip'd for brevity] > re: Setting up xdm login for PC Win95 login with x server package: > read the documentation under /usr/doc/packages/xdmsc/ . > Did .. got it working .. can login and get Linux desktop (I use fvwm95 as my default wm) only problem seems to be that colors are not mapping properly - and some things do not work quite right - could be the X server on the PC ... Thanks for the help! At least I can see and login to the target server now! -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by stugreen＠bga.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

Joop, Please forward your '/etc/lilo.conf' and which kernel did you install during the installation? Regards, Stu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SCSI Controllers
by bob100＠ibm.net 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

I'm going to get a new computer and am looking for the "perfect" controller. I was going to get an Adaptec Ultra2 SCSI; but, for starters, it's not supported. I have no experience with controllers outside of Adaptec and figure maybe it's time to switch. Some properties I'd like the thing to have are: 1. Fast data rate 2. Supports ultra wide SCSI hard disks 3. Easy to hook up old SCSI-2 peripherals 4. Supports > 7 devices 5. Supports OS/2 Warp 4 Of course, the last is my cross to bear. Am chiefly interested in Linux. Would love to hear any suggestions/comments. Thanks! -- Bob ---------------------------------- E-Mail: bobg<bob100(a)ibm.net> Date: 09-Feb-98 Time: 00:25:02 This message was sent by XFMail ----------------------------------, it's not supported. I have no experience with controllers outside of Adaptec and figure maybe it's time to switch. Some properties I'd like the thing to have are: 1. Fast data rate 2. Supports ultra wide SCSI hard disks 3. Easy to hook up old SCSI-2 peripherals 4. Supports >7 devices 5. Supports OS/2 Warp 4 Of course, the last is my cross to bear. Am chiefly interested in Linux. Would love to hear any suggestions/comments. Thanks! -- Bob ---------------------------------- E-Mail: bobg<bob100(a)ibm.net> Date: 09-Feb-98 Time: 00:25:02 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

See page 135 of the SuSE Linux 5.1 book. Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo Date: Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 10:52:09PM +0100 In reply to:To suse-linux-e Quoting JJM Boonen(jboonen(a)worldonline.nl): > > > Dear Madam, Sir, > > I do have the following problem with S.U.S.E. 5.1. > When i have installed Lilo and i restart my computer it only shows only > a L and a blinking cursor. > > I don't seen to be able to change that. What can i do? I have a quantum > viking hard disk and a NCR 810 controller and a VX pro main board and a > Cyrix (IBM) P200+ . > > Thank you very much. > > Regards, > > Joop Boonen. > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | wtopa(a)ix.netcon.com | | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste | | on WINDOZE | +--------------------------Oooo----------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] knews failure in 5.1 (Hello ?)
by deem＠wdm.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

"W.D.McKinney" <deem(a)wdm.com> wrote: > > tatus: O > > > I am trying knews from menu, and I get this error: > > knews: can't resolve symbol '__strtol_internal' > > What's the next step trying to get this to run ? > > Thanks > -Dee Well since no answer on this one, I downloaded knews-0.9.8-3.i386.rpm from ftp.redhat.com/pub/contrib/I386/ and now I have a working copy of knews. I really would like to see a working copy of knews-1.0b.0.tar.gz for S.u.S.E. 5.1 on the ftp.suse.com site. Is this possible ? Thanks & Regards -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] broken java for netscape in 5.1?
by satan＠nfinity.com 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

I have been running 5.1 for the last three days and all I can say is wow. I am in love. I find this to be more configurable and hands on than the other two distributions I have used. The only problem I have encountered seems to be a slightly broken handling of java. Has anyone else had any problems running netscape on 5.1? I disable java and it runs fine. I got three broken pipe/java-class msgs during netscape install. I have the java runtime, devel and kaffe installed. I would appreciate any advice. Other than that, SuSE 5.1 has made my favorite os even better. I love it! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] can't login
by maylward＠sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au 09 Feb '98

09 Feb '98

I ran into the same problem when I accidently uninstalled shadow password support. Run yast from the boot disk and make sure shadow password support is installed. If it is not, then put it back and all will be OK - if this is the problem. Hope this helps. Regards, matt -- Matt Aylward Dept of Geography (GIS) email: maylward(a)sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au Linux Lover and GIS Geek ..............LINUX..................... OS for the people by the people -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] First Install - YaST problem :(
by jacklev＠atl.mindspring.com 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

Dear SuSE: I am starting my first SuSE install on a blank HD, and have a problem when quitting YaST. Per the SuSE 5.1 book, pg.42, after I am done defining my partitions and selecting my packages, I should select 'finish installation and exit YaST'. The partitions will then be written, and I will go to the shell prompt, where I _must_ shutdown, to finish the setup. However, YaST _does not_ take me back to the shell when I select 'finish and exit'. My pc gets booted from scratch at this point, so I am unable to "shutdown -r now". I would think this halts my install, and won't allow me to proceed to the next step. Up to this point, everything was a-okay. Thanks for any help, T.J. Leverette jacklev(a)mindspring.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Lilo
by jboonen＠worldonline.nl 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

Dear Madam, Sir, I do have the following problem with S.U.S.E. 5.1. When i have installed Lilo and i restart my computer it only shows only a L and a blinking cursor. I don't seen to be able to change that. What can i do? I have a quantum viking hard disk and a NCR 810 controller and a VX pro main board and a Cyrix (IBM) P200+ . Thank you very much. Regards, Joop Boonen. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM usage problems
by ke＠suse.de 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

"David E. Edwards" <dedwards(a)technologist.com> writes: | I have just recently (today) downloaded the KDE beta3 packages and | the suswm upd ate from the suse_update directory at ftp.suse.com. I | have tried to install and I am getting the following error: | "error -2 reading header: Unknown error" | What's going wrong? I don't seem to have problems except with this | group of pac kages. | I am using rpm 2.4.1 Sorry, this rpm version is to old -- is it actually 2.4.1? Please enter the command: rpm --version If you're using «S.u.S.E. Linux» 5.0, please update the base system (serie "a") first or at least rpm and YaST from <A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/</A">ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/</A</A>> . If you are cpnnected to the Internet, the following two commands are sufficient: rpm -U <A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/rpm/rpm.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/rpm/rpm.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/rpm/rpm.rpm</A</A>> rpm -U <A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/a1/yast.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/a1/yast.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse_update/suse51/a1/yast.rpm</A</A>> -- Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH fon +49-911-3247130 ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 fax +49-911-3206727 <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany mailbox +49-911-3247122 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X Windows Questions
by ke＠suse.de 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

Tom Schaefer <netd(a)fastrans.net> writes: | With Slackware, I never had any problem "seeing" a Linux machine as | a willing host for Win95/NT X clients to login via xdm. However, | I've noticed that SuSE does not come up the same way. What do I need | to reconfig so that X clients can login via xdm or whatver it takes | to get the PC X server under Windows95/NT to see the Linux machine? The package "xdmsc" (serie "x") is a big help, if you want to configure the Linux machine as a "comfortable xdm server". If installed, please read the documentation under /usr/doc/packages/xdmsc/ . -- Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH fon +49-911-3247130 ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 fax +49-911-3206727 <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany mailbox +49-911-3247122 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM usage problems
by mperry＠basin.com 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 02:09:52AM -0500, David E. Edwards stated: > > Michael, > I did have Beta2 installed, including qt1.3.1, but I uninstalled them all before > I started on Beta 3. > I have noticed, however that the RPMVERSION for the SuSE version of Beta3 is 2.4 > .10, and the RPMVERSION for the KDE packages is 2.4.12. > Now,you say you are using SuSE 5.1, well, I am using SuSE 5.0 > I'm wondering if SuSE 5.1 (and KDE Beta 3) use a more up-to-date version of rpm > than I have on my SuSE 5.0 distro? > > On 08-Feb-98 Michael Perry wrote: > > Hi- I just did a rpm -q on rpm here. It says that I have rpm-2.4.10-5 installed here. The third beta of kde installed on SuSE 5.1 with that rpm level with no problems. I have seen some posts on the usenet newsgroups about problems with installing and use KDE at the third beta level. From my albiet limited experience, Beta 3 seems to have a problem at some times starting its KFM even when I call it from the startkde script in my .xinitrc. I have had some problems with losing the KFM after getting it started also. It seems that functionality just departs leaving me with an inoperational window manager. Anyone else had problems installing or seen these types of issues out there? -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM usage problems
by dedwards＠technologist.com 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

Michael, I did have Beta2 installed, including qt1.3.1, but I uninstalled them all before I started on Beta 3. I have noticed, however that the RPMVERSION for the SuSE version of Beta3 is 2.4 .10, and the RPMVERSION for the KDE packages is 2.4.12. Now,you say you are using SuSE 5.1, well, I am using SuSE 5.0 I'm wondering if SuSE 5.1 (and KDE Beta 3) use a more up-to-date version of rpm than I have on my SuSE 5.0 distro? On 08-Feb-98 Michael Perry wrote: > >On Sat, 07 Feb 1998, you wrote: >>I have just recently (today) downloaded the KDE beta3 packages and the suswm u pd >>ate from the suse_update directory at ftp.suse.com. >>I have tried to install and I am getting the following error: >> "error -2 reading header: Unknown error" >>What's going wrong? I don't seem to have problems except with this group of p ac >>kages. >>I am using rpm 2.4.1 >> <SNIP> >Hi- > >I just installed KDE Beta 3 on SuSE 5.1 and first uninstalled the second beta >I am not experiencing any problems. Did you by chance have KDE beta 2 >installed? I read on the newsgroups of some problems upgrading over the 2d >beta. > > -- > >--Michael Perry-- >mperry(a)basin.com >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] HELP- How to stop hostname appending
by pwilke＠pwilke.alaska.net 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

Hi, I cannot subscribe directly as I have a static IP address from my ISP, but as a dial-up user running SuSE 5.1, I do not know how to stop my hostname from appending itself to the from addresss when sending mail, therefor whenever users reply, I don't get the mail ? I have edited the /etc/rc.config and changed FROM_ADDRESS="alaska.net", which is my ISP's domain, but I still get pwilke.alaska.net as the sending domain ? Most frustrating and I would really like some help as a new SuSE 5.1 user. If I need to send more info, you'll have to e-mail me as I have yet to subscribe fearing the mail problem would get in the way. Thanks (Please reply with help to pwilke(a)alaska.net) Pat -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Mail Headers
by john＠totten.com 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

Can you tell me how you put those cute tags on the email headers that distinguish the list originating the post - in this case "[S.u.S.E Linux]". This has been a boon to my filtering hundereds of emails daily. I'd like to show other lists's how to do the same. Granted you can get smart at other levels but this method helps everyone irrespective of their computing skills. John Totten Sitka AK. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] can't login
by andyford＠fastrans.net 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

Andy Ford wrote: > > Hi y'all > I seem to have blown up my SuSE-Linux 5.1. I used yast to deactivate xdm > and now when I get to the login prompt I type any user name and it just > kicks back to a login: promt again, never asking for a password. Very > painful. > Any suggestions? > Yours, > Andy > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e wow bizarre /bin/login just up and left my HD! copied one in and here I am. that was scary -- yours, Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM usage problems
by mperry＠basin.com 08 Feb '98

08 Feb '98

On Sat, 07 Feb 1998, you wrote: >I have just recently (today) downloaded the KDE beta3 packages and the suswm upd >ate from the suse_update directory at ftp.suse.com. >I have tried to install and I am getting the following error: > "error -2 reading header: Unknown error" >What's going wrong? I don't seem to have problems except with this group of pac >kages. >I am using rpm 2.4.1 > >Dave E. >-Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- >No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! >----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- >SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com > 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Hi- I just installed KDE Beta 3 on SuSE 5.1 and first uninstalled the second beta I am not experiencing any problems. Did you by chance have KDE beta 2 installed? I read on the newsgroups of some problems upgrading over the 2d beta. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM usage problems
by deem＠wdm.com 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

"David E. Edwards" <dedwards(a)technologist.com> wrote: > > I have just recently (today) downloaded the KDE beta3 packages and the suswm upd > ate from the suse_update directory at ftp.suse.com. > I have tried to install and I am getting the following error: > "error -2 reading header: Unknown error" > What's going wrong? I don't seem to have problems except with this group of pac > kages. > I am using rpm 2.4.1 > > Dave E. > -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- > No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! > ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- > SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com > 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > RPM in 5.1 is version 2.4.10 if that helps, also what was the command for installing you used ? That would help and copy the exact error after trying rpm -Uvvh kde-whatever-app.rpm and e-mail it back to the list. -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] knews failure in 5.1
by deem＠wdm.com 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

I am trying knews from menu, and I get this error: knews: can't resolve symbol '__strtol_internal' What's the next step trying to get this to run ? Thanks -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM usage problems
by dedwards＠technologist.com 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

I have just recently (today) downloaded the KDE beta3 packages and the suswm upd ate from the suse_update directory at ftp.suse.com. I have tried to install and I am getting the following error: "error -2 reading header: Unknown error" What's going wrong? I don't seem to have problems except with this group of pac kages. I am using rpm 2.4.1 Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE Beta 3 at ftp.suse.com
by mperry＠basin.com 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

On Sat, 07 Feb 1998, you wrote: >I am interested in trying out kde beta 3 which now resides at the suse ftp >site. Is there anything I should know about the packages before getting >them? Do I need the qt-1 and the susewm upgrade that is in the directory >also? Should I uninstall the second beta first? > >Thanks. > > -- > >--Michael Perry-- >mperry(a)basin.com >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Actually, to answer my own question... I just installed KDE beta3 from the ftp site and it went quite well. No bad problems with dependencies, etc. Thanks to the SuSE folks for having the third beta on their ftp site. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE Beta 3 at ftp.suse.com
by mperry＠basin.com 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

I am interested in trying out kde beta 3 which now resides at the suse ftp site. Is there anything I should know about the packages before getting them? Do I need the qt-1 and the susewm upgrade that is in the directory also? Should I uninstall the second beta first? Thanks. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] can't login
by djastro＠fastrans.net 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

Hi y'all I seem to have blown up my SuSE-Linux 5.1. I used yast to deactivate xdm and now when I get to the login prompt I type any user name and it just kicks back to a login: promt again, never asking for a password. Very painful. Any suggestions? Yours, Andy -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Missing packages
by feydani＠math.bme.hu 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

Hi all ! I just installed KDE beta3 from suse_update and the package kadmin does not appear in the section kde, nor in the section ALL. packages. Using rpm: feydani@maci:/home/feydani > rpm -qa | grep kadmin kadmin-beta3-0 o rpm tells that is installed. The programs from the package are installed correctly, and work well. Why yast doesn't show this package ? It shows only in Choose/Install packages->Delete packages, and tells that there is an installed package which can not be found in the installation medium. Thanks. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Connection Problems
by brauki＠cww.de 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

Hi Frank, > On Feb 6, 5:11pm, jim seiberling wrote: > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Connection Problems > > > > Hello Everyone: > > I just bought a copy of SuSE 4.4.1. and after a successful initial > > install <grin>, i still have the same problem that i have under > > Slackware: > > I cannot connect to my isp. Under Win95, i can't even connect using > > hyper terminal (the wife uses Wank95, on a hd all her own) > > Say what?? If you can't connect using Hyperterminal something looks seriously > wrong somewhere. When you dial in you should get a login prompt followed by a > password prompt, and that should start the ppp garbage. Sounds like you don't > have an account setup at the ISP. Adding to the other answers I've read, the basic setup is described in the 4.4.1 manual. I used 4.4 in the old days and I managed it quite easy with that. In cas you understand german, there are descriptions for modem access in the support db. But if you cannot use minicom to connect to your ISP, make sure your modem works from Linux, serial line is ok and the modem port defined. I am not sure wether there was a modem setup in yast, but be sure your modem works at first. you must see some incoming data from your provider. Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Connection Problems
by nwobone＠hotmail.com 07 Feb '98

07 Feb '98

Hello all: i wanted to thank you for your help, and forgive me for not responding sooner. I had to make a house call for a friends daughter's 386 win3.11 computer. I will do all i can to get connected tomorrow, and one way or the other, i will, thanks to you kind folks. I hope to return the favor someday, as i get more familiar with the Real OS on the Planet! nWobone ---Linux RULES, windoze Drools! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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