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[S.u.S.E. Linux] portmap won't run!
by weekleyj＠fastrans.net 25 Feb '98

25 Feb '98

Hi all, I'm trying to get portmap to run for an installation of CDE. The CDE installation fails, saying portmap is required but not running. It's set up to run by default in /etc/rc.config After running strace on it I get this... strace /usr/sbin/portmap (extraneous crap deleted) open("/usr/share/i18n/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(ptrace: umoven: I/O error 0x804ed38, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/usr/share/locale/C/libc.cat", 0xbfffef70) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/usr/share/locale/libc/C", 0xbfffef70) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat("/usr/local/share/locale/C/libc.cat", 0xbfffef70) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory Why should I care about my locale for a system daemon? And better yet, how to fix? Thanks, John Weekley -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script for thoes who do not know HOWTO set up PPP
by bhart＠chesco.com 25 Feb '98

25 Feb '98

I suggest you either switch to decaf or get a faster modem. I appreciated getting the script. Jim Hatridge wrote: > Steven; > > Thank you for something I already have. I did not need this and I dislike > having to pay to download it. > > For your info, alot of people in Germany (i.e. outside the US) have to > pay for their local phone calls. So we try not to hang on the line too > long. Next time you wish to drop perls of wisdom on us, DON'T! Ask if > anyone wants them, then email it privately. > > JIM > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script for thoes who do not know HOWTO set up PPP
by satan＠nfinity.com 25 Feb '98

25 Feb '98

JIM; sucks to be you. don't be such a jerk-off to someone who was obviously trying to help you out. try not to choke on that 6k. Steven Udell wrote: > Jim Hatridge wrote: > > > Steven; > > > > Thank you for something I already have. I did not need this and I dislike > > having to pay to download it. > > > > For your info, alot of people in Germany (i.e. outside the US) have to > > pay for their local phone calls. So we try not to hang on the line too > > long. Next time you wish to drop perls of wisdom on us, DON'T! Ask if > > anyone wants them, then email it privately. > > > > JIM > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Hello Jim, {SuSE} > > I am sorry, it was a small 6k byte file. And I know lots of people in > Germany, yes I do know that very phone call costs a bundle. Please > excuse me, I regret helping out people, only to find I have hinderd > someone in someway. > > I am sorry. > Steven Udelhoffen > sudell(a)teleport.com > hettar(a)teleport.com > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script for thoes who do not know HOWTO set up PPP
by hettar＠teleport.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Jim Hatridge wrote: > Steven; > > Thank you for something I already have. I did not need this and I dislike > having to pay to download it. > > For your info, alot of people in Germany (i.e. outside the US) have to > pay for their local phone calls. So we try not to hang on the line too > long. Next time you wish to drop perls of wisdom on us, DON'T! Ask if > anyone wants them, then email it privately. > > JIM > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Hello Jim, {SuSE} I am sorry, it was a small 6k byte file. And I know lots of people in Germany, yes I do know that very phone call costs a bundle. Please excuse me, I regret helping out people, only to find I have hinderd someone in someway. I am sorry. Steven Udelhoffen sudell(a)teleport.com hettar(a)teleport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] xemacs problem
by ockman＠varesearch.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 01:02:03PM -0500, Steve Cohen wrote: > I went to use xemacs today, and noticed that I had I tiny problem with > it. That problem is that it doesn't work at all. It sounds like it is > starting up (I hear the harddrives), the cpu usage goes up, but all that > happens is that I get a fatal error message. I am attaching the error > message. Any suggestions. Should I just download it from ftp.xemacs.org? Xemacs worked fine for me under S.u.S.E., except some problems with the backspace key...(on my personal setup...I do very weird things with keyboards though, including disabling the X extension.) So I downloaded the binaries from xemacs.org, and it woked fine (large download though.) Good luck... -Sam -- Samuel Ockman | Work Linux? | VA Research Director of Software | Work with us. | Proud Corporate (650) 934-3666 ext. 133 | e-mail jobs@ | Sponsor of Guerilla Cellular: 650-53-Emacs (3-6227) | varesearch.com | Linux Development -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Keyboard lockup vs stty sane
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, William D. Kasperkoski wrote: > > Can you telnet into the machine from another and then > kill the offending processes from the console ?? > > > If you want to learn something new, read an old book. > Bill WB2SXY(a)qsl.net Hi Bill; No, for two reasons. First, I don't know how. Plus I don't have another computer, yet. Thanks for your help, JIM -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script for thoes who do not know HOWTO set up PPP
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Steven; Thank you for something I already have. I did not need this and I dislike having to pay to download it. For your info, alot of people in Germany (i.e. outside the US) have to pay for their local phone calls. So we try not to hang on the line too long. Next time you wish to drop perls of wisdom on us, DON'T! Ask if anyone wants them, then email it privately. JIM -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] popper
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote: > > Popper is ion the package 'pop' in the network series... > Ok, thanks Bodo, nslookup is in the bind - name server utils package, and popper is in the popclient package. I just got used to these programs being on my "other" distribution and I can't imagine a *nix system without at least nslookup nor a mail server without popper. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script for thoes who do not know HOWTO set up PPP
by bb＠suse.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Michael Perry wrote: > > Steven Udell <hettar(a)teleport.com> wrote: > > Attached is a PPP script > > > > Directions on use: > > file name: ppp.tar.gz > > 1)stick ppp.tar.gz in your hidden root directory : cd / > > 2) cd / > > 3) tar -zxvf ppp.tar.gz > > 4) edit (pico,vi,whatever) ppp.chatscipt in /etc/ > > a) with your information > > 5) edit (pico,vi,whatever) reslov.conf in /etc/ *YAST will set this > > part > > also* > > Thanks for the ppp script. I have a few general questions; not > particularly about the script but about the process. While using SuSE > 5.0 I upgraded to a diamondmm supraflex 56kflex modem from my old > trustworthy USR Sportster 28.799. So I changed a few things in the > default ppp-up script which is included as a sample script with one of > the networking packages. I could never get the script to dial in at a > respectable rate. I would have my isp tech support check the ascend > terminal routers and let me know my dialup speed on occasion. > Unfortunately, I often was operating at less than my 28.8 or so with the > earlier modem. I then decided I would like to use something a little > mroe graphical in the hopes that this would give me more control over > the exact sequence of events. Using xisp and/or ezppp has helped me > immeasurably. > > So the basic question is... Do people use the ppp scripting tools to > get higher connect rates than 28.8? And if so, how did you do it? Is > anyone using a 56k modem with a script and if so; how does your script > look? I think the bps rate is not a question of the script, it's a question of the interface you use. By default all serial interfaces have a max speed of 38400bps under linux. As long as you can't talk only at 38400bps to your modem, you'll never get a 56kbps connect... You can change this behavior by setting the devices max rate with 'setserial': setserial /dev/ttyS1 spd_vhi This means if a process asks for 38400 bps it get 115kbps. Remember that you still have to ask for 34800! See 'man setserial' for more details. To have this settings at boot time, you can place the serserial calls in /sbin/init.s/serial. I use a (PCMCIA) K56Flex modem and get K56 connects whitout having a special PPP script, but with setting the device to spd_vhi... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by bb＠suse.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Mario Oschwald wrote: > > Bodo Bauer wrote: > > > > > > > YaST won't change any file that has been edited by anyone else. MD5 > > checksums are stored for each config file YaST (or SuSEconfig) modifies, > > and the next tine you run it, it will check if there has been modifications > > since the last run. If so, you'll get a warning and the 'SuSE-version' > > of the file will be stored in <filename>.SuSEconfig. If want SuSEconfig > > not to do this, you can either edit SuSEconfig and comment the > > concernign lines out, or you can set ENABLE_SUSECONFIG (rc.config) to no, > > which means, that SuSEconfig will not be run by YaST. > > > > Permissions will be reset anyway. To switch this off, set > > CHECK_PERMISSIONS to 'no' or 'warn' > > > > > > IŽm not quite sure if YaST really doesnŽt change config files that have been > manually edited. We use NIS for name resolving and user authentization. The last > line in /etc/passwd has ben set by YaST to "+" but since our NIS-Server uses > different shells I changed this to "+::::::/bin/bash" to get the bash when loggin > in on the Linux-Box. Unfortunately YaST always changes this back to "+" when > running again and does not recognize my modifications. Ups, may be you are right in this point, I have to ask the YaST team about this... Sorry, BB > Another thing about YaST and NIS: even though I set the USE_NIS_FOR_RESOLVING flag > in rc.config to "yes" YaST does not edit host.conf to include the line "order > hosts,nis" as should be expected but leaves it at "order hosts". Thus NIS would not > be used for name-resolving. But then > again at least here it realizes that this was changed manually and just stores its > version in > host.conf.SuSEconfig as you described above. > Thanx , Mario Oschwald > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HP 600C Printer and APSFILTER
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > 2. I have tried printing with cat filename > /dev/lp1 > > and the result is the "staircase" effect? Is there a way to get > around this when using this method or must lpr be used? One way to solve this is in the setup of the printer itself, on the printer (check the manual for the printer), let LF= CR + LF or something like that, I had to do this for my deskjet 500 compatible printer a long time ago so it's a bit foggy in my mind. I remember though printing through windows still worked ok when the printer was in this mode. Actually, now that we're on this subject, I don't know why DOS file don't get rid of the CR since it takes up extra space. But that has got to do with some long history I guess. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Keyboard lockup vs stty sane
by wkasper＠juno.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Can you telnet into the machine from another and then kill the offending processes from the console ?? If you want to learn something new, read an old book. Bill WB2SXY(a)qsl.net On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 18:25:59 +0100 (CET) Jim Hatridge <hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de> writes: > >Hi Claes, Wildman, etc, > >On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Claes G Lindblad wrote: > >> Hi Jim, Wildman & all, >> >> On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, The Wildman wrote: >> > Now _I_ have a question for you: >> > How can you switch terms if the keyboard is locked? >> >> You have a very good point there, Wildman! :-) > >Yes, he does. I guess that I should have said that the program lock >up. >Or at least I get to a point that I don't know what to do and the >program >will not respond. Normally at that point I do a "c-z" to put the >program >in the background and then I do a "kill 0". This will works most >times, >but about 100f the time I've got it so screwed up that all that will >work is the change tty keys. All other keys seem to be dead. This was >what >I was meaning. So after reading this do you still think that doing >"ps -a / kill <pid>" is the best thing or is there something better? > >> >> > ... Just enter stty sane and you should be fine. >> >> Unfortunately, that seems not to be sufficient in Europe, >> where characters above 0x7f are used, too. For this reason, >> there is a tougher sanity enforcement: >> /usr/bin/reset >> which, among other things perform an 'stty sane'. >> >> So, if 'stty sane' will not bring your sanity back, >> try 'reset'. >> >> Have fun! >> Claes in Lund, Sweden. >> -- www.algonet.se/~claesg -- >> > >Thanks for all your help! > > > >JIM > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by mario_oschwald＠grosch-link.de 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Bodo Bauer wrote: > > > YaST won't change any file that has been edited by anyone else. MD5 > checksums are stored for each config file YaST (or SuSEconfig) modifies, > and the next tine you run it, it will check if there has been modifications > since the last run. If so, you'll get a warning and the 'SuSE-version' > of the file will be stored in <filename>.SuSEconfig. If want SuSEconfig > not to do this, you can either edit SuSEconfig and comment the > concernign lines out, or you can set ENABLE_SUSECONFIG (rc.config) to no, > which means, that SuSEconfig will not be run by YaST. > > Permissions will be reset anyway. To switch this off, set > CHECK_PERMISSIONS to 'no' or 'warn' > > IŽm not quite sure if YaST really doesnŽt change config files that have been manually edited. We use NIS for name resolving and user authentization. The last line in /etc/passwd has ben set by YaST to "+" but since our NIS-Server uses different shells I changed this to "+::::::/bin/bash" to get the bash when loggin in on the Linux-Box. Unfortunately YaST always changes this back to "+" when running again and does not recognize my modifications. Another thing about YaST and NIS: even though I set the USE_NIS_FOR_RESOLVING flag in rc.config to "yes" YaST does not edit host.conf to include the line "order hosts,nis" as should be expected but leaves it at "order hosts". Thus NIS would not be used for name-resolving. But then again at least here it realizes that this was changed manually and just stores its version in host.conf.SuSEconfig as you described above. Thanx , Mario Oschwald -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HP 600C Printer and APSFILTER
by netd＠fastrans.net 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

I have an HP660Cse, and here is my printcap. This printcap sits on a dialup gateway, which is actually a Slackware machine with Apsfilter, and handles remote print jobs from a SuSE 5.1 client. I have a 'generic printer' defined manually for pass through printing, and any Postscript jobs, say from a Netscape or Word Perfect job use the other definitons. Seems to work fine. === cut here === # # Generic printer: lp|HP660cse:\ :lp=/dev/lp1: \ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :sh: \ :mx#0:\ # ### BEGIN apsfilter: ### deskjet letter color 360x720 ### # Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels! # apsfilter setup Thu Nov 27 20:47:27 CST 1997 # ascii|lp1|deskjet-letter-ascii-mono-360x720|deskjet letter ascii mono 360x720:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-ascii-mono-360x720:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-ascii-mono-360x720/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-ascii-mono-360x720/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-ascii-mono-360x720/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/deskjet-letter-ascii-mono-360x720:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # deskjet|lp2|deskjet-letter-auto-color-360x720|deskjet letter auto color 360x720:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-color-360x720:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-color-360x720/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-color-360x720/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-color-360x720/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/deskjet-letter-auto-color-360x720:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # deskjet-mono|lp3|deskjet-letter-auto-mono-360x720|deskjet letter auto mono 360x720:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-mono-360x720:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-mono-360x720/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-mono-360x720/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-auto-mono-360x720/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/deskjet-letter-auto-mono-360x720:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # raw|lp4|deskjet-letter-raw|deskjet letter raw:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-raw:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-raw/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-raw/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/deskjet-letter-raw/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/deskjet-letter-raw:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # ### END apsfilter: ### deskjet letter color 360x720 ### ### BEGIN apsfilter: ### cdjcolor letter color 300 ### # Warning: Configured for apsfilter, do not edit the labels! # apsfilter setup Thu Nov 27 22:09:15 CST 1997 # cdjcolor-ascii|lp5|cdjcolor-letter-ascii-mono-300|cdjcolor letter ascii mono 300:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-ascii-mono-300:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-ascii-mono-300/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-ascii-mono-300/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-ascii-mono-300/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/cdjcolor-letter-ascii-mono-300:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # cdjcolor|lp6|cdjcolor-letter-auto-color-300|cdjcolor letter auto color 300:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-color-300:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-color-300/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-color-300/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-color-300/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/cdjcolor-letter-auto-color-300:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # cdjcolor-mono|lp7|cdjcolor-letter-auto-mono-300|cdjcolor letter auto mono 300:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-mono-300:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-mono-300/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-mono-300/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-auto-mono-300/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/cdjcolor-letter-auto-mono-300:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # cdjcolor-raw|lp8|cdjcolor-letter-raw|cdjcolor letter raw:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-raw:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-raw/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-raw/acct:\ :lo=/var/spool/lpd/cdjcolor-letter-raw/lock:\ :if=/var/lib/apsfilter/bin/cdjcolor-letter-raw:\ :la:mx#0:\ :sh: # ### END apsfilter: ### cdjcolor letter color 300 ### -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HP 600C Printer and APSFILTER
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

On 23-Feb-98 adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > 2. I have tried printing with cat filename > /dev/lp1 > > and the result is the "staircase" effect? Is there a way to get > around this when > using this method or must lpr be used? Check the Printing-HOWTO. You need to put an entry in your /etc/printcap that adds a CR before each LF. There's a simple example in there. --- Jonathan Markevich <jonathan(a)aracnet.net> Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #52: Q: What is your name? A: Ernestine McDowell. Q: And what is your marital status? A: Fair. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ftp SuSe install
by ke＠suse.de 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

bmessin(a)3-cities.com writes: | I would like to give SuSE a test-drive before sending in my $50, and was | thinking of doing an ftp install if possible. Please, start with reading <A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/5.1/README.FTP"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/5.1/README.FTP</A">ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/SuSE-Linux/5.1/README.FTP</A</A>> Another option is to mount linux01.gwdg.de:/suse/5.1/ (134.76.13.21) via NFS and to do a NFS installation. BTW, there's no need to spread ASCII arts via mailingslists. Thanks for respecting the nettiquette. -- CeBIT '98: 5/A61 and 3/C33 Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH Fax +49-911-3206727 ke(a)suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 Mo & Th 13:00-18:00: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany Hotline +49-911-3247130 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ftp SuSe install
by bmessin＠3-cities.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

I would like to give SuSE a test-drive before sending in my $50, and was thinking of doing an ftp install if possible. Could someone explain how to do this? Can an FTP install only be done on a box with a permanent network connection, or can it be done via modem? I would have to do the install via modem (ppp with a dynamicly assigned IP). Still possible? I am currently running Slackware96. Is it possible for me to log into my existing system, connect to the Internet and then invoke the SuSE installation? What are my options? Thanks in advance! .-=***""""""***=-. Ben Messinger / \ bmessin(a)3-cities.com @\_/_ _______ _\_/@ // \\ | | // \\ | \__/ \_______v______/ \__/ | |___________________________ | \|_|__|____|AIRSIX|___|__|_| / #\___(_________________)____/# ####### ####### -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script for thoes who do not know HOWTO set up PPP
by mperry＠basin.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Steven Udell <hettar(a)teleport.com> wrote: > Attached is a PPP script > > Directions on use: > file name: ppp.tar.gz > 1)stick ppp.tar.gz in your hidden root directory : cd / > 2) cd / > 3) tar -zxvf ppp.tar.gz > 4) edit (pico,vi,whatever) ppp.chatscipt in /etc/ > a) with your information > 5) edit (pico,vi,whatever) reslov.conf in /etc/ *YAST will set this > part > also* Thanks for the ppp script. I have a few general questions; not particularly about the script but about the process. While using SuSE 5.0 I upgraded to a diamondmm supraflex 56kflex modem from my old trustworthy USR Sportster 28.799. So I changed a few things in the default ppp-up script which is included as a sample script with one of the networking packages. I could never get the script to dial in at a respectable rate. I would have my isp tech support check the ascend terminal routers and let me know my dialup speed on occasion. Unfortunately, I often was operating at less than my 28.8 or so with the earlier modem. I then decided I would like to use something a little mroe graphical in the hopes that this would give me more control over the exact sequence of events. Using xisp and/or ezppp has helped me immeasurably. So the basic question is... Do people use the ppp scripting tools to get higher connect rates than 28.8? And if so, how did you do it? Is anyone using a 56k modem with a script and if so; how does your script look? Thanks. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script for thoes who do not know HOWTO set up PPP
by hettar＠teleport.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------405F40D5A864BAE7528B12B8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is a PPP script Directions on use: file name: ppp.tar.gz 1)stick ppp.tar.gz in your hidden root directory : cd / 2) cd / 3) tar -zxvf ppp.tar.gz 4) edit (pico,vi,whatever) ppp.chatscipt in /etc/ a) with your information 5) edit (pico,vi,whatever) reslov.conf in /etc/ *YAST will set this part also* a) with your isp's domain and nameserver I) domain yourisp.com nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 6) checkout ppp.options_out (see if its ok) in /etc/ 7) under root do these commands: a)cd /etc/ppp b) chown root:root * c) cd /etc d) chown root:root ppp* e) cd /usr/bin f) chown root:root pon poff 8) Your done! 9) to start a connection (u gota be root) (but you can log root off after it is ) (started.........................................) Type : pon 10) to stop a connection short of (turning off your modem) (throwing it out the window or unplugging the computer) Type : poff **make sure you have a symb link to your modem** if this doesn't work right off the bat** That's it, I do not under any circumstances hold any responsibility If you use this script ppp.tar.gz and anything goes wrong or you commit any wrong doing, it is YOUR responsibility. This is a just a simple ppp script, it does not set up anything other than ppp for you. Thou CHAP and PAP are in this script. I do not or will not tell you how to use them as all ISPs are different. Just thought I'd help, send it to a friend... I know this works with Linux 2.0.30+ I use it with my SuSE 5.1 :) 2.0.33-suse You must have pppd compiled into the kernel. Steve hettar(a)teleport.com All instructions are here, please do not message me. 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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HP 600C Printer and APSFILTER
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

On Feb 23, 10:09pm, adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] HP 600C Printer and APSFILTER > > If you have or are familiar with the HP 600C printer you will know that the printer at any > one time has either or a black cartridge or a color cartridge but not both at the same time. > So my first question is: > > 1. Should I have a separate color printer definition and a separate mono printer definition > in my APSFILTER file(s)? It seems that the HP 550/560 file is closest to the 600. I am not completely familar with your printer, but does the 550/560 series come in both mono and color types? If it does, it would be my guess that you would need two printer deffinitions. > The second question: > > 2. I have tried printing with cat filename > /dev/lp1 > > and the result is the "staircase" effect? Is there a way to get around this when > using this method or must lpr be used? I don't think so, that is part of what the print filter does. > These leads to the third question: > > 3. When I print a generic text file using lpr the result is a landscape printout using a very > small font as opposed to the expected portrait printout using the default font of the > printer. Should this be? Or do I have something set improperly, or not set? Check out /etc/apsfilterrc. There is a section in that file where you can modify this. > By the way, these really are fine-tuning questions...For the most part in other software my > printer works fine. I can print color pages using xv (and gimp). Using Ghostview I can > print PDF and PS files. I am just looking for answers on the things that should work > properly but don't (like a simple text file). > > Thanks, > > Arlen Carlson > Hope that this helps. Cheers, Frank > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from adcarlso(a)visinet.ca -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] HP 600C Printer and APSFILTER
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

If you have or are familiar with the HP 600C printer you will know that the printer at any one time has either or a black cartridge or a color cartridge but not both at the same time. So my first question is: 1. Should I have a separate color printer definition and a separate mono printer definition in my APSFILTER file(s)? It seems that the HP 550/560 file is closest to the 600. The second question: 2. I have tried printing with cat filename > /dev/lp1 and the result is the "staircase" effect? Is there a way to get around this when using this method or must lpr be used? These leads to the third question: 3. When I print a generic text file using lpr the result is a landscape printout using a very small font as opposed to the expected portrait printout using the default font of the printer. Should this be? Or do I have something set improperly, or not set? By the way, these really are fine-tuning questions...For the most part in other software my printer works fine. I can print color pages using xv (and gimp). Using Ghostview I can print PDF and PS files. I am just looking for answers on the things that should work properly but don't (like a simple text file). Thanks, Arlen Carlson -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] 5.1 on a Thinkpad 360X?
by scotth＠min.ascend.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

I'm trying to install 5.1 on an IBM Thinkpad 360X. The bootdisk keeps booting over and over, never getting anywhere. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . s c o t t e . h a u c k , a s c e n d -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] nslookup
by weis＠dom.hws.edu 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Dominik Weis wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > > > > > > My previous post was regarding a missing file, so is this, now that I'm > > using my suse dist more I'm comming accross these missing programs, did I > > miss an important section? > > > > Where is nslookup ? > It should be in the bind(nameserver) package. It will be installed in the > /usr/sbin directory Sorry it is /usr/bin Dominik --------------------------------------------------------------------- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*". -Linus Torvalds One of the greates pices of economic wisdom is to know what you do not know. -John Kenneth Galbraith There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about. -Osca Wilde -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by bb＠suse.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Ted Harding wrote: > > And Hi again! > > The question this time concerns how to preserve manual changes made to system > setup from being re-set by YaST. > > The simplest answer would be to the question: what files are changed when YaST > reconfigures the system? Then, I would know what files to keep "backup" copies > of, so that I can then do a "diff" with the new versions created by YaST, > restore changed features I want to keep, and allow the changes which I really > want. YaST won't change any file that has been edited by anyone else. MD5 checksums are stored for each config file YaST (or SuSEconfig) modifies, and the next tine you run it, it will check if there has been modifications since the last run. If so, you'll get a warning and the 'SuSE-version' of the file will be stored in <filename>.SuSEconfig. If want SuSEconfig not to do this, you can either edit SuSEconfig and comment the concernign lines out, or you can set ENABLE_SUSECONFIG (rc.config) to no, which means, that SuSEconfig will not be run by YaST. Permissions will be reset anyway. To switch this off, set CHECK_PERMISSIONS to 'no' or 'warn' Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Security problems with X - SuSE ?
by bb＠suse.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

W.D.McKinney wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > I am running SuSE 5.1 of course and wondered what to do about this problem ? > I am running Accelerated-X 4.1 with my Matrox Millenium. The XFree86 team is working on a wrapper to cover this problem. At the moment they recommend to use XDM to launch the Xserver... Ciao BB > > Thanks > -Dee > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Various problems have been found in the X server which makes it a serious > threat to system security. All versions of the X server, including Metro X > and Accelerated X, are thought to be affected (only XFree86 and the MIT X > reference implementation are *known* to be, however). This problem affects > all Red Hat Linux platforms and versions. > > Currently, no new X servers are available. Instead, Red Hat recommends > removing the special permissions from the X server binary (the setuid > bit), and using a wrapper program which is now on ftp.redhat.com. To do > this, follow the following steps. The order is quite important, so please > follow these instructions carefully. > > 1) Remove the setuid bit from all X servers installed on your > system with the following command: > > chmod u-s /usr/X11R6/bin/X* > > 2) Install the updated Xconfigurator package (details below) > > 3) Install the new xserver-wrapper package (details below) > > 4) If you are running Accelerated X, run the following command: > > ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/Xaccel /etc/X11/X > > if you are not running Accelerated X, do not do this step! > > After these steps have been completed, X should functions as usual. > > This information will appear on the Errata for Red Hat Linux 4.2 and > Red Hat Linux 5.0 shortly. > > Thanks to everyone on BUGTRAQ who brought these problems to our attention. > > Red Hat 5.0 > - ------------- > > i386: > rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.i386.rpm</A</A>> > rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.i386.rpm</A</A>> > > alpha: > rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.alpha.rpm</A</A>> > rpm -Uvh > <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.alpha.rpm</A</A>> > > Red Hat 4.2 > - ------------- > > i386: > rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm</A</A>> > rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.i386.rpm</A</A>> > > alpha: > rpm -Uvh > <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.alpha.rpm</A</A>> > rpm -Uvh > <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.alpha.rpm</A</A>> > > SPARC: > rpm -Uvh > <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/sparc/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.sparc.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/sparc/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.sparc.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/sparc/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.sparc.rpm</A</A>> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBNNiGsqUg6PHLopv5AQHsHgP/aPPd9omBYNM+ie1zOH+pxLRzouz/I6cq > gdfzsb+0Wo/b6+0mIyAuKct5S1MQP695yx62EEMu6j/y54+jj2dTkGpNpdohbt3+ > jRGwxyQ6lHv2na/IFFKYPSYJdVT5bRbKz+/Tpi4AxYYYW1pIe57P9xxGB7aRV3f1 > veW8HK4mvbU= > =s3yj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] netatalk
by jbbernar＠midway.uchicago.edu 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

I'm having a problem with netatalk that perhaps someone could help me with. From my Mac, I can only mount volumes on the linux box as "guest", and not with my user account. The default config files contain the line that should enable each user to mount his home directory, namely ~ "Home" (I added only the label to the file that was auto-installed). Before installing SuSE Linux on my machine I tried out Debian, and didn't have this problem, though as far as I can see the netatalk config files are identical to what they were before, and despite having made no changes to the Mac's setup. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon Bernard -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast Followup
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

On Feb 23, 2:06pm, Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast Followup > > Greetings: > > Ran into a little snaffoo. > > 1. Why does Yast not configure the kde(kwm) to fvm2(SuSE) if you remove > the kde beta-1 package, as provided in the CD set. > > 2. Installed kde-b1 with original install of SuSE > 3. Installed kde-b3 with yast (overwriting the b-1 file)....works > fine everything functioning > 4. Then used yast to remove b-1 files as identified by yast > 5. reboot, old ms habit, and poof kde (kwm) is gone from fvm2 > 6. Run yast to remove all kde files > 7. Launch yast to install new beta-3 file set, but no option in > SuSE fvwm2 to launch KDE: > > Interesting: I understand that I can edit the xinitrc file to generate > kde as the default wm but dont need this as of yet. More interested in > determining why KDE-b3 is not recognized by the Yast configuration > effforts. Did /sbin/SuSEconfig run after you reinstalled kde using YAST? Try running it by had and watch to see it it updates fvwm2. Cheers, Frank > Chris > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Chris Herrnberger -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST
by bb＠suse.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Jim Hatridge wrote: > > Hi all!; > > I'm using SuSE 4.4.1 the box is dated March 1997 and is the 4 CD set. I > would like to use YaST to install a program from CD #4. How can I do that? There are no packages on CD4, this is the live file system... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] nslookup
by bb＠suse.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > My previous post was regarding a missing file, so is this, now that I'm > using my suse dist more I'm comming accross these missing programs, did I > miss an important section? > > Where is nslookup ? Package 'bind' of the networ series.... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] popper
by bb＠suse.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > Wondering why popper is not installed, this is referenced in > /etc/inetd.conf and is needed when someone queries the linux box for > mail. I checked another system i put suse on and it doesn't have popper > either, what set do I have to install to get this? > > pop3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/popper -s > > I just installed in.pop3d from my good old slackware dist for now. Popper is ion the package 'pop' in the network series... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] nslookup
by weis＠dom.hws.edu 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > > My previous post was regarding a missing file, so is this, now that I'm > using my suse dist more I'm comming accross these missing programs, did I > miss an important section? > > Where is nslookup ? It should be in the bind(nameserver) package. It will be installed in the /usr/sbin directory Dominik --------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the greates pices of economic wisdom is to know what you do not know. -John Kenneth Galbraith There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about. -Osca Wilde -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sound
by zentara＠mindspring.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Ruud de Bruin wrote: > > What is the preferred method in SuSE Linux 5.1 to "insmod sound", in which > configuration script should I include this? > > Regards, Ruud. > > -- > Nothing screws up a good story like an eyewitness. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Put the line "insmod sound" in /etc/rc.d/boot.local or use "kernald", which automatically loads modules on demand. That's what works for me. If you have an AWE32 or 64, you can also load soundfont banks by adding the lines in boot.local "sfxload synthgm.sf2" or which ever .sf2 file you desire. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] nslookup
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

My previous post was regarding a missing file, so is this, now that I'm using my suse dist more I'm comming accross these missing programs, did I miss an important section? Where is nslookup ? -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast Followup
by chris123＠netcom.ca 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Greetings: Ran into a little snaffoo. 1. Why does Yast not configure the kde(kwm) to fvm2(SuSE) if you remove the kde beta-1 package, as provided in the CD set. 2. Installed kde-b1 with original install of SuSE 3. Installed kde-b3 with yast (overwriting the b-1 file)....works fine everything functioning 4. Then used yast to remove b-1 files as identified by yast 5. reboot, old ms habit, and poof kde (kwm) is gone from fvm2 6. Run yast to remove all kde files 7. Launch yast to install new beta-3 file set, but no option in SuSE fvwm2 to launch KDE: Interesting: I understand that I can edit the xinitrc file to generate kde as the default wm but dont need this as of yet. More interested in determining why KDE-b3 is not recognized by the Yast configuration effforts. Chris -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] sound
by rdebruin＠willow.demon.nl 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

What is the preferred method in SuSE Linux 5.1 to "insmod sound", in which configuration script should I include this? Regards, Ruud. -- Nothing screws up a good story like an eyewitness. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] xemacs problem
by steve＠toad.net 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A4844B4DF023E4D39306B867 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to use xemacs today, and noticed that I had I tiny problem with it. That problem is that it doesn't work at all. It sounds like it is starting up (I hear the harddrives), the cpu usage goes up, but all that happens is that I get a fatal error message. I am attaching the error message. Any suggestions. Should I just download it from ftp.xemacs.org? Steve Cohen --------------A4844B4DF023E4D39306B867 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="xemacs-error.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="xemacs-error.txt" Fatal error (11). Your files have been auto-saved. Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them. Please report this bug by running the send-pr script included with XEmacs, or selecting `Send Bug Report' from the help menu. As a last resort send ordinary email to `crashes(a)xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include as much configuration information as possible; at the very least what OS and hardware you are running on, and hopefully also what compiler and compiler options the binary was compiled with, what options XEmacs was compiled with, whether you are using a prebuilt binary from ftp.xemacs.org or compiled XEmacs yourself for your system, etc. If at all possible, *please* try to obtain a C stack backtrace; it will help us immensely in determining what went wrong. To do this, locate the core file that was produced as a result of this crash (it's usually called `core' and is located in the directory in which you started XEmacs, or maybe in your home directory), and type gdb /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs core then type `where' when the debugger prompt comes up. (If you don't have GDB on your system, you might have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. A similar procedure should work for all of these. Ask your system administrator if you need more help.) Lisp backtrace follows: --------------A4844B4DF023E4D39306B867-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] popper
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Wondering why popper is not installed, this is referenced in /etc/inetd.conf and is needed when someone queries the linux box for mail. I checked another system i put suse on and it doesn't have popper either, what set do I have to install to get this? pop3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/popper -s I just installed in.pop3d from my good old slackware dist for now. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by vb＠kanguruh.ebis.de 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

>> Will Linux ever have kernel threads or lightweight processes? Yes, it will. Read about the new GNU clib - it's thread aware! Read about the 2.1.x kernel dev. Try to start on www.linux.org. VB. -- <A HREF="mailto:vb@ebis.de">mailto:vb@ebis.de</A> ebis Informationssysteme Dachsweg 13, 88339 Bad Waldsee, Germany Phone +49-7524-93421 Fax +49-7524-93423 *** File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sound
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

On 20-Feb-98 Kyle Johnson wrote: I had the same question, glad you asked it. I found the answer, though: run the DOS-based driver FIRST, then use loadlin to load on top of that. I was doing the following in my DOS Config.sys: shell=loadlin.exe zimage root=/blah/blah/blah All I needed to do was put the DEVICE= line before that. It's worth recompiling the kernel, though. It's not as frightening of an adventure as you think, and tunes the performance somewhat. > I have about 8 weeks of linux experience under my belt, and I'm about > ready to tackle the job of activating sound under my SuSE 5.1 > distribution. In general, how does one do this? A couple of applications > (including Tkdesk) emit a message that "/dev/sound is not recognized". > How do I activate it, or load the sound module? There _is_ such a file in > the /dev directory. > > My sound card is a basic Acer AW32, with a Crystal sound chip (PnP), and > it's listed among the supported cards in the OSS-Linux site (4Front). I > understand that re-compiling the kernel is probably not necessary, and I'd > like to postpone that adventure a bit if I can. Could someone give me > some advice, or point me to some of the appropriate documents? --- jonathan(a)aracnet.net "Qvid me anxivs svm?" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ET4000/W32i at 16 Colour???
by jpcowh01＠ox.slug.louisville.edu 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

> When I try to change the resolution by adding DefaultColorDepth 16 the server > crashes with a message that 16 bit is not supported by my card. I know that it > can run at this depth as that is the normal resolution I run under Win95 in 800x > 600. Win95's graphic technology and X-window's server technology are differant. > I have an IBM 17P monitor with a HorizSync of 30-82 and a VertSync of 50-110. > The card has 2M of memory. > > Am I missing something or is 16 bit simply not going to work with this card in > Linux? > > Gerry I have a trident 9685 providia (no tv) with 4megs edo (unsure if it's true edo ram). I used SuSE's Trident server and it at least let me have 8bit color at 1024x768. My monitor is CTX 1562gm which can go up to 1280x1024 (with some hacking). With Xfree's svga server, I couldn't get better than 640x480. As soon as then get all the functionality in these servers implemented then it could possibly achieve the maximum performance from your video card. Win95 has a lot more money and developers making drivers and X is us and some dedicated companies and organizations (metro-x, xfree86, accel-x, suse, etc...) You might want to e-mail SuSE and see if they plan on releasing the functions you want in their servers: x(a)suse.com Jonathan -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0
by seamar＠singnet.com.sg 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Mount your cdrom as root: mount -t iso9660 -o ro,exec /dev/cdrom /cdrom cd to /cdrom and do he installation script Regards M. J. Medjeral On 22-Feb-98 Darren wrote: > > >On 22-Feb-98 rknebel(a)csrlink.net wrote: >> >>On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 02:46:40AM +0000, Frank Pawlak wrote: >> >>Thanks for the info but unfortunatly it still says permission denied > >Rick, are you logged in as root? Question one... > >Also, when you mount your cdrom, do you use the settings in fstab (by just type i >ng "mount /cdrom" or something similar) or do you mount the cdrom "by hand" so t >o speak? > >By default, SuSE sets up the cdrom to NOT ALLOW executing programs and scripts ( >such as install) from the cdrom. --------------------------------- E-Mail: seamar(a)singnet.com.sg Date: 23-Feb-98 Time: 08:28:09 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ET4000/W32i at 16 Colour???
by gdoris＠shaw.wave.ca 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

I have been trying all day to get a generic ET4000/W32i card to run in 16 bit colour under XF86. After reading the docs (if I understood them correctly) the 3.1 release does not support 16 bit colour in the SVGA server for this chipset. Also, I found that the Accel server will not work with my system for some reason >. I downloaded the new server from SuSe for the ET4000 family and installed it. Now the Accel server works but I am still unable to get 16 bit colour with eithe r the SVGA or Accel servers. When I try to change the resolution by adding DefaultColorDepth 16 the server crashes with a message that 16 bit is not supported by my card. I know that it can run at this depth as that is the normal resolution I run under Win95 in 800x 600. I have an IBM 17P monitor with a HorizSync of 30-82 and a VertSync of 50-110. The card has 2M of memory. Am I missing something or is 16 bit simply not going to work with this card in Linux? Gerry ---------------------------------- E-Mail: gdoris(a)shaw.wave.ca> Date: 02/22/98 Time: 17:50:59 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- ---------------------------------- E-Mail: gdoris(a)shaw.wave.ca> Date: 02/22/98 Time: 18:10:42 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Thanks
by chris123＠netcom.ca 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Just wanted to say thanks to those who responded so quickly to my post. All I can say is "what a combination" SuSE 5.1, Yast, Kdebeta3, Netscape, SO4.0. All at no cost (if you ftp) and all functioning beyond expectation. Kudos to the all who proliferate such quality products and effective marketing strategies. Can't wait till the yo-yots at the office see this combination. The price of admission will make them cringe....and all this from a nubie too. The last laugh will be sweet........very sweet. Thanks to all who helped. Chris -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by netd＠fastran.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

John Totten wrote: > Is SCO's UnixWare 7 (ex Gemini) then stillborn ? I'm not sure ... But I do know that if SCO had been more reasonable with their pricing years ago, they could well have become the defacto standard on x86, and perhaps there might not even be a Linux or a FreeBSD ... It all gets back to the fact that we have commodity priced hardware in the market place, what people really seem to like about Linux is that it gives you a commodity-priced OS, as well as all th other benefits ... > Will Linux ever have kernel threads or lightweight processes? From what I have seen in Linuxland, if it's something people really want, then chances are that it will be developed - although there's never any guarantee about that. You'll probably find out more about that in one of the developer groups on usenet. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by john＠totten.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Is SCO's UnixWare 7 (ex Gemini) then stillborn ? Will Linux ever have kernel threads or lightweight processes? John Totten Sitka AK -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] STB Velocity 128 AGP and XSuse
by eibo＠newmedia.no 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

I'm running Linux Redhat 5.0 with 2.0.33 kernel. I'v installed the XSuSE_NVidia and xf86config, configured it for the STB Velocity 128 card, but when startx is run, the machine hangs and the screen goes black. I'm not sure if the card is sharing IRQ with another card, since I'm not able to find what IRQ the AGP card is running on. I'm able to use the XF86_VGA16 to run X on this card......but it would be great if I realy could use this cards resources under X...... :) Anyone had the same experience with the XSuse_NVidia driver? ------------------------------------------------------------------- IDG New Media Einar Bordewich System Manager Phone: +47 2205 3034 E-Mail: eibo(a)newmedia.no ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by netd＠fastran.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Lachlan Dunlop wrote: > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > <snip> > > > The fact that the top three enterprise databases only run on commercial > > Unix is probably one of the few things that keeps commercial Unix alive. > > Sybase is getting ready to port to Linux, and will probably be first to > > market, although the boneheads at Informix have been pummled for 18 > > months by a very dedicated developer core who want informix to go Linux, > > but top management at Informix just can't "get it". > > Tom, > > Has Sybase given a release date for there port?? You where never able to > convince Informix to port to Linux?? Is the Informix list still up and > running?? > Re: SybaseI haven't seen a release date yet, but I had seen a post or to from a Sybase devloper who is very excited about Linux, and it also appears that he has some level of management support to either begin experimentation or completeion, I don't know, although there are some Sybase libraries that can already be used - I can't remember for the moment exactly what they do or are for - but they can be used in some capacity on Linux. Re: Informix The list is still up, and details are on my brother's site at: <A HREF="http://www.inxutil,com"><A HREF="http://www.inxutil,com</A">http://www.inxutil,com</A</A>> - sorry I don't have the complet URL - you'llhave to dig around a bit there. The devlopers are starting to feel pretty alienated by Informix, however, most of them are extremely passionate about the superiority of Informix and its capabilities, they just feel that Informix just doesn't know how to market what they feel is the world's best db. I have rarely seen such dedication towards a product, and yet such snubbing by a vendor (Informix). > I too have Sparc stations, for one reason only, to run Oracle & Sybase > Servers. All the x86 machines run Linux. > I would like to get rid of the Sparcs! SCO and Solaris X86 are already > gone. Database of choice for now is ADABAS, would love to also be able to > offer Sybase, Oracle, or Informix. > > Good piece!, Later > > Lach It's only a matter of time. The first of the big boys (db OEMs) to market will get the lion's share of the market. The problem seems to be that the "big 3" (or 4) commercial db vendors continue to pan Linux. Since they have all become ledgends in their own minds (atta boy Larry Ellison) , they sneer at Linux like a bastard step child and ignore its superior capabilites over the MS product suite, and its economy for businesses vs SCO, Solaris, et al . The ironly is that Linux will give them the x86 Unix market back from MS if they all start using the the newer "Netscape-style" pricing and Internet distribution and licensing models. Informix, Novell, IBM, Lotus, these are all formerly great companies, however, their inability to adapt quickly to the newer paradigms in the market has kept them all lagging behind inthe market. They all cling to 80's MBA style management and thier corporations are filled with technology-ignorant marketing "professionals" who help them slip further and further behind. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by weekleyj＠fastrans.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Now for the obvious question. Why did I start using Linux again? CD writing software! Solaris has 3rd party CD R/W software available, but it's gonna cost a lot. It also has a free package, that I could never to get working well. I'm also looking a providing cheap networking solutions, Linux excels in this area. I'm still a Sun "religionist", but I'm also realistic about getting the job done. Also, with the full source code, Linux is one hell of a learning tool! I used to be a strictly Sun guy, now I can see that there's room for everyone but the evil empire in Redmond Washington. ;) John Weekley -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by weekleyj＠fastrans.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Trying to get my goat, eh Tom? :) Tom Schaefer wrote: > Ok, I'll bite, and I'll be objective about it, too! > > There's nothing like going back thru a Solaris 2.5.1 x86 install to help > you appreciate and realize several of Linux's greatest strengths. Don't forget the weaknesses: Just now getting threads, nevermind lightwieght processes! Anyway, installation? Hmmm, In don't recall having near the problems with installation that you've had Tom. The major problem with Linux installations that I've had deal with the amount of choices, "is this package really necessary? does it negate the utility of another package?" I guess why I never had hardware problems is that I followed Sun's Hardware compatibility list to the letter. Now why is Linux hardware support better than Sun's (or at least more comprehensive)? One reason that I can see: 1: Linux has a HUGE devolper base. don't have a driver you need? Write it. The source code is right there an your hard drive? Sun doesn't provide it's source code for free, Sun is a business entity. > > Because of some work I'll be doing for a client, I have to set up a > drive in my workstation at home with Solaris. A good friend of mine was > kind enough a while back to trade me an old SCSI adapter I had for an > extra copy he had of Solaris 2.5.1. Aww shucks :) > Just to boot up the system, I had to download and create 8 new "Driver > Update" diskettes. (Driver Update 10) So I boot up the system, and they > begin their own style of autoprobing hardware. What's the diff in recompiling your kernel to build in added support? Nada, zip zilch, takes time. > > After the hardware probing is done, you are sitting at a character mode > install system designed to ask you the basics about your display, video > adapter card and mouse. This is the Solaris "kdmconfig" program. > (Keyboard Display Mouse Config) . You have the option of bypassing the > graphical config, and do your initial install in character mode, so that > you can install OpenWindows later with kdmconfig,or continue right into > graphical config. that would be nice except you have to know several > magin words and invoke some ancient chants to get kdmconfigto work > right. What a pitiful piece of software it is. Works very well for me. Tom, the above is bullshit, you're just impatient :) > > If you want to install the graphical environment, OpenWindows, then a > few screens are offered to allow you to pick from lists the closest you > can to that which is in your system. then they attempt to load up > OpenWindows. This is akin to XF86Setup "attempting to start X server" - > except that if it fails, you have to start over from a reboot. Maybe > Sun's people are hanging out in Redmond now ... > > I selected the ATI Mach 64, a no-brainer for XFree86 under Linux. I have > wasted considerable effortjust trying to get the video modes and monitor > set, which, like I said before is not real hard under XF68Setup, and > makes even xf86config look like a walk in the park. > > The sad part of it all is that I did indeed download the latest driver > kit from Sun, and although it "looks" like they've supplied the right > drivers, their installer can't get it right. There is no Ctrl-Alt- - or > Ctrl-Alt-+ mode switching to test different modes, and even Windows NT > does better autoprobing during the install process. > > Several times I have picked the wrong modes, and wound up with garbage > on the screen, and the system frozen, with no ability to breakout of the > process, only to have to hit the reset button and go thru the first 3 > SLOW diskettes to get the installer to see and start the CD based > installer. Did you attempt to read your manuals on what the ATI was capable of, then run thru kdmconfig? > The only solution was to take out the Mach 64 (bummer!) ad re-install an > older Cirrus Logic video card. And even worse, although Solaris showed > EXACTLY the card I have, it still isn't quite right! I'm getting weird > screen refresh problems! It's amazing! I've never had these problems > with Linux! Nope, just RTFM ;) > Linux and the contrib software from seasoned developers and industry > professionals makes Linux so much more compatible in Intel than any > other x86 Unix. > > I have a rather generic system, Intel motherbaord, real Pentium P133 - > this is not bleeding edge, Adaptec 2940 PCI adapter, 64mb of memory, > 2S1P on motherboard, Triton 430HX chip set, sheesh this thing is text > book. I have an industrial strength 19" rack mount case with an awesome > power supply. I'm not doing anything real unusual with hardware! > > In this same system I have run several different versions and > distributions of Linux without any of the video or hardware problems I > have had with Solaris. > > And we haven't even gotten to the part about that which NOT included > with Solaris! :) Can you believe they don't have a "traceroute" > program included? Can you believe that they start up the "routed" > program (routing) by default? And how about the fact that they don't > include any of the tonnage of apps that you find under Linux. "Well > that's because since they're commercial, they can't include freeware" > Bullshit. A supplementary CD would be a no-brainer to include. Uh, no traceroute? Untrue, it's built into "ping" as "ping -sRv host" > The same friend I got Solaris 2.5.1 from went through ppp hell also, as > it seems that Sun never really "finished" the job with their > implementation of ppp. He wound up building a Linux gateway machine > just for ppp! And I don't believe you get IP Masquerading or Kernel > based firewalling in the Solaris kernel like you do with Linux. Perhaps > they include it in their $20000 firewall. Untrue here, I had PPP going 2 years ago, granted Linux is easier to configure for PPP NOW, but even then, it was no bed of roses. I use linux now as an experimental box, as I want to work on cheap firewalling. Masquerade is very nice. I applaud the linux community fir this excellent piece of software. > So next time someone starts laying the "Sun Religion" on you, or the > fact that you're better off with a "commerical" Unix vs Linux, > understand that these people are masochists. In my experience as a > computer professionaI, I have encountered "Sun-only" "Solaris > Pharisees" who bow down at the great pyramid of Sun and hail it as the > total solution, even though it is so incomplete and requires so much > "fixing" and "grooming" to make it usable. Completion is in the eye of the beholder, Tom. I like both Solaris and Linux. I started REALLY playing with Linux back about '93 or so, then moved to Solaris because it was more in line with my job (Solaris Sysadmin), linux could provide concepts, but for the specifics I needed Solaris. Now I use both. Use the proper tool for the job :) > The fact that the top three enterprise databases only run on commercial > Unix is probably one of the few things that keeps commercial Unix alive. > Sybase is getting ready to port to Linux, and will probably be first to > market, although the boneheads at Informix have been pummled for 18 > months by a very dedicated developer core who want informix to go Linux, > but top management at Informix just can't "get it". > > Things not included with Solaris - these you'll have to go get for Sun > include: > > * A decent shell - Sun's shells suck compared to bash - this really > pisses me off. Sun bigots who think that ksh and csh or even tcsh are > good shells.. Define decent :) Korn is great if you know how to use it. > Add time to download and install Bash for Solaris ... > * A working ppp configuration and software: prepare to give an > inordinate amount of time to getting it to work if at all! Not really, the install has gotten easier, but I still recommend getting the ppp ported from linux, it's faster. > * C compiler, unless you don't mind paying $1500 for a single user C > compiler license. That means you'll have to spend time downloading an > installing the > GNU compiler. Okay, got me there, but then I have to spend time getting GCC. Oh well, I knew life was tough. > * A decent desktop window manager that doesn't suck like OpenWindows - > looks like more download and compile time again ... CDE is not really an > answer, so don't try to impress me with CDE, it's not complete. There > are better alternatives. Again, CDE is nice IF you know how to use it. Otherwise, it can be a real bitch. > * Oh - and since I have 2.5.1, that means I'm faced with a 25mb > Recommended Patch cluster download to get it current. Nope, you can go to SSunsolve adn download just the patches you need. A person RARELY needs all the patches. > I know, I could subscribe to their developer program at $95/year, but > since I can't afford to buy any apps for this os, I really don't want to > sink money into a very limited program that only covers the os, not > simple support for apps. The good folks at SuSE, Caldera RedHat, > Slackware - they are more than able, capable and willing to provide new > RPMS for just about any app that the user community wants included in > their distributions. > I can afford to subscribe to two Linux distributions now, and every > quarter I have an up-to-date system and software. > > The only thing I think Sun has as an advantage *right now* is that they > have larger hardware and can handle more CPUs with SMP. That will all > change now as the new Beowulf (clustered processing) wave starts, along > with better SMP in Linux. Maybe, maybe not, it goes back to having the proper tool for the job. > While I'm sure many are thankful for Sun's contributions to the Unix > community, such as Java and Tcl/Tk, I can't say much for their x86 > product. Perhaps 2.6 is better, but I really don't want to spend $495 > for it. (Why, just because it has Sun's logo - hell I have Sun mouse > pads and wrist rest, they have cool art work - that it) > > Given time, as more and more technology professionals begin realizing > the power and economy that Linux provides, they will see that Solaris > Religion just doesn't make sense. PCs are dommodity items now, and > thanks to Linux, we have a commodity priced OS that makes commerial Unix > look bad. Hmmm, I dunno about that one. For example, I tried linux on my beast box (Dual P-166, 136 MB RAM, 8 Gig Hard Drive). After booting Linux, I had approx 1 MB of free RAM to play with. I don't put a lot into my SysVinit, either. Just the usual networking daemons and stuff necessary to get Linux up and running. Shows VERY poor memory management. Solaris on the other hand with CDE, Communicator 4, mysql, GCC, SSH and a whole slew of other things going on simutaneously, eats about HALF of that available RAM. Too bad we can't get the source(s) for memory management. > Hang your head in shame Sun. Sun shows you what would have happed to > Linux had it grown up and been fostered in a commercial environment. Can we say "Commercial?" There I KNEW we could, Tom! Sun is out to make a buck! Wake up and smell the coffee! > Oh - an if my pricing is too high - I can hear some of you saying "you > can get it practically for free under such and such a program from Sun" > - have you been to their web site lately - they have so many useless > links connected to nothing but marketing fluff. Just wading through the > links to find drivers and patches is sheer tedium. No Argument there! LOL > So for all you newbies out there - enjoy Linux and the fact that current > distributions are so much more simple to install and maintain than > Solaris. > > Ask somebody who runs a large IS shop with a lot of Sun machines - ask > them how support is from Sun - chanes are they'll tell you they don't > use Sun - they use a VAR or somone else, because Sun has a shjitty > reputation where support is concerned. The only shops getting attention > are the big spenders. > Support for Linux is at light-speed compared to Sun, not to mention > other Unix vendors. > Sun's support has been variable, granted. Sometimes excellent, sometimes not. But, it's nice to be part of a group who's a major contributor to Sun's beta program. Helps to make the finished product a lot nicer. > Watch out Sun - "The Penguin Cometh" ... Somehow, I don't see Scott McNealy quaking in his boots just yet. The whole point of this excersize, I guess, is that Linux is appropriate in some cases, Solaris in others. But to make a blanket statement that Solaris x86 is now obsolete due to the advent of Linux is ludicrous. Economically, Solaris at home does not make sense. USE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE JOB! John Weekley -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0
by gecko＠freecar.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On 22-Feb-98 rknebel(a)csrlink.net wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 02:46:40AM +0000, Frank Pawlak wrote: > >Thanks for the info but unfortunatly it still says permission denied Rick, are you logged in as root? Question one... Also, when you mount your cdrom, do you use the settings in fstab (by just typei ng "mount /cdrom" or something similar) or do you mount the cdrom "by hand" so t o speak? By default, SuSE sets up the cdrom to NOT ALLOW executing programs and scripts ( such as install) from the cdrom. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Darren <gecko(a)freecar.com> Date: 22-Feb-98 Time: 11:20:25 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by lach＠lach.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > <snip> > The fact that the top three enterprise databases only run on commercial > Unix is probably one of the few things that keeps commercial Unix alive. > Sybase is getting ready to port to Linux, and will probably be first to > market, although the boneheads at Informix have been pummled for 18 > months by a very dedicated developer core who want informix to go Linux, > but top management at Informix just can't "get it". Tom, Has Sybase given a release date for there port?? You where never able to convince Informix to port to Linux?? Is the Informix list still up and running?? I too have Sparc stations, for one reason only, to run Oracle & Sybase Servers. All the x86 machines run Linux. I would like to get rid of the Sparcs! SCO and Solaris X86 are already gone. Database of choice for now is ADABAS, would love to also be able to offer Sybase, Oracle, or Informix. Good piece!, Later Lach -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] A Little Bit of Perspective (Linux Advocacy)
by netd＠fastran.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

LINUX_ADVOCACY="yes" This is being posted to give some of you newbies a bit of perspective about just how much more simple and better installing Linux is compared to what some people refer to as "the Lexus" of Unixes, Sun's Solaris. Even though you experience some difficulties in Linux land, it is nothing compared to Solaris. There's nothing like going back thru a Solaris 2.5.1 x86 install to help you appreciate and realize several of Linux's greatest strengths. Because of some work I'll be doing for a client, I have to set up a drive in my workstation at home with Solaris. A good friend of mine was kind enough a while back to trade me an old SCSI adapter I had for an extra copy he had of Solaris 2.5.1. Just to boot up the system, I had to download and create 8 new "Driver Update" diskettes. (Driver Update 10) So I boot up the system, and they begin their own style of autoprobing hardware. After the hardware probing is done, you are sitting at a character mode install system designed to ask you the basics about your display, video adapter card and mouse. This is the Solaris "kdmconfig" program. (Keyboard Display Mouse Config) . You have the option of bypassing the graphical config, and do your initial install in character mode, so that you can install OpenWindows later with kdmconfig,or continue right into graphical config. that would be nice except you have to know several magin words and invoke some ancient chants to get kdmconfigto work right. What a pitiful piece of software it is. If you want to install the graphical environment, OpenWindows, then a few screens are offered to allow you to pick from lists the closest you can to that which is in your system. then they attempt to load up OpenWindows. This is akin to XF86Setup "attempting to start X server" - except that if it fails, you have to start over from a reboot. Maybe Sun's people are hanging out in Redmond now ... I selected the ATI Mach 64, a no-brainer for XFree86 under Linux. I have wasted considerable effortjust trying to get the video modes and monitor set, which, like I said before is not real hard under XF68Setup, and makes even xf86config look like a walk in the park. The sad part of it all is that I did indeed download the latest driver kit from Sun, and although it "looks" like they've supplied the right drivers, their installer can't get it right. There is no Ctrl-Alt- - or Ctrl-Alt-+ mode switching to test different modes, and even Windows NT does better autoprobing during the install process. Several times I have picked the wrong modes, and wound up with garbage on the screen, and the system frozen, with no ability to breakout of the process, only to have to hit the reset button and go thru the first 3 SLOW diskettes to get the installer to see and start the CD based installer. The only solution was to take out the Mach 64 (bummer!) ad re-install an older Cirrus Logic video card. And even worse, although Solaris showed EXACTLY the card I have, it still isn't quite right! I'm getting weird screen refresh problems! It's amazing! I've never had these problems with Linux! Linux and the contrib software from seasoned developers and industry professionals makes Linux so much more compatible in Intel than any other x86 Unix. I have a rather generic system, Intel motherbaord, real Pentium P133 - this is not bleeding edge, Adaptec 2940 PCI adapter, 64mb of memory, 2S1P on motherboard, Triton 430HX chip set, sheesh this thing is text book. I have an industrial strength 19" rack mount case with an awesome power supply. I'm not doing anything real unusual with hardware! In this same system I have run several different versions and distributions of Linux without any of the video or hardware problems I have had with Solaris. And we haven't even gotten to the part about that which NOT included with Solaris! :) Can you believe they don't have a "traceroute" program included? Can you believe that they start up the "routed" program (routing) by default? And how about the fact that they don't include any of the tonnage of apps that you find under Linux. "Well that's because since they're commercial, they can't include freeware" Bullshit. A supplementary CD would be a no-brainer to include. The same friend I got Solaris 2.5.1 from went through ppp hell also, as it seems that Sun never really "finished" the job with their implementation of ppp. He wound up building a Linux gateway machine just for ppp! And I don't believe you get IP Masquerading or Kernel based firewalling in the Solaris kernel like you do with Linux. Perhaps they include it in their $20000 firewall. So next time someone starts laying the "Sun Religion" on you, or the fact that you're better off with a "commerical" Unix vs Linux, understand that these people are masochists. In my experience as a computer professionaI, I have encountered "Sun-only" "Solaris Pharisees" who bow down at the great pyramid of Sun and hail it as the total solution, even though it is so incomplete and requires so much "fixing" and "grooming" to make it usable. The fact that the top three enterprise databases only run on commercial Unix is probably one of the few things that keeps commercial Unix alive. Sybase is getting ready to port to Linux, and will probably be first to market, although the boneheads at Informix have been pummled for 18 months by a very dedicated developer core who want informix to go Linux, but top management at Informix just can't "get it". Things not included with Solaris - these you'll have to go get for Sun include: * A decent shell - Sun's shells suck compared to bash - this really pisses me off. Sun bigots who think that ksh and csh or even tcsh are good shells.. Add time to download and install Bash for Solaris ... * A working ppp configuration and software: prepare to give an inordinate amount of time to getting it to work if at all! * C compiler, unless you don't mind paying $1500 for a single user C compiler license. That means you'll have to spend time downloading an installing the GNU compiler. * A decent desktop window manager that doesn't suck like OpenWindows - looks like more download and compile time again ... CDE is not really an answer, so don't try to impress me with CDE, it's not complete. There are better alternatives. * Oh - and since I have 2.5.1, that means I'm faced with a 25mb Recommended Patch cluster download to get it current. I know, I could subscribe to their developer program at $95/year, but since I can't afford to buy any apps for this os, I really don't want to sink money into a very limited program that only covers the os, not simple support for apps. The good folks at SuSE, Caldera RedHat, Slackware - they are more than able, capable and willing to provide new RPMS for just about any app that the user community wants included in their distributions. I can afford to subscribe to two Linux distributions now, and every quarter I have an up-to-date system and software. The only thing I think Sun has as an advantage *right now* is that they have larger hardware and can handle more CPUs with SMP. That will all change now as the new Beowulf (clustered processing) wave starts, along with better SMP in Linux. While I'm sure many are thankful for Sun's contributions to the Unix community, such as Java and Tcl/Tk, I can't say much for their x86 product. Perhaps 2.6 is better, but I really don't want to spend $495 for it. (Why, just because it has Sun's logo - hell I have Sun mouse pads and wrist rest, they have cool art work - that it) Given time, as more and more technology professionals begin realizing the power and economy that Linux provides, they will see that Solaris Religion just doesn't make sense. PCs are dommodity items now, and thanks to Linux, we have a commodity priced OS that makes commerial Unix look bad. Hang your head in shame Sun. Sun shows you what would have happed to Linux had it grown up and been fostered in a commercial environment. Oh - an if my pricing is too high - I can hear some of you saying "you can get it practically for free under such and such a program from Sun" - have you been to their web site lately - they have so many useless links connected to nothing but marketing fluff. Just wading through the links to find drivers and patches is sheer tedium. So for all you newbies out there - enjoy Linux and the fact that current distributions are so much more simple to install and maintain than Solaris. Ask somebody who runs a large IS shop with a lot of Sun machines - ask them how support is from Sun - chanes are they'll tell you they don't use Sun - they use a VAR or somone else, because Sun has a shjitty reputation where support is concerned. The only shops getting attention are the big spenders. Support for Linux is at light-speed compared to Sun, not to mention other Unix vendors. Watch out Sun - "The Penguin Cometh" ... -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Security problems with X - SuSE ?
by deem＠wdm.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Hi Guys, I am running SuSE 5.1 of course and wondered what to do about this problem ? I am running Accelerated-X 4.1 with my Matrox Millenium. Thanks -Dee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Various problems have been found in the X server which makes it a serious threat to system security. All versions of the X server, including Metro X and Accelerated X, are thought to be affected (only XFree86 and the MIT X reference implementation are *known* to be, however). This problem affects all Red Hat Linux platforms and versions. Currently, no new X servers are available. Instead, Red Hat recommends removing the special permissions from the X server binary (the setuid bit), and using a wrapper program which is now on ftp.redhat.com. To do this, follow the following steps. The order is quite important, so please follow these instructions carefully. 1) Remove the setuid bit from all X servers installed on your system with the following command: chmod u-s /usr/X11R6/bin/X* 2) Install the updated Xconfigurator package (details below) 3) Install the new xserver-wrapper package (details below) 4) If you are running Accelerated X, run the following command: ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/Xaccel /etc/X11/X if you are not running Accelerated X, do not do this step! After these steps have been completed, X should functions as usual. This information will appear on the Errata for Red Hat Linux 4.2 and Red Hat Linux 5.0 shortly. Thanks to everyone on BUGTRAQ who brought these problems to our attention. Red Hat 5.0 - ------------- i386: rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.i386.rpm</A</A>> rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.i386.rpm</A</A>> alpha: rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/Xconfigurator-3.26-1.alpha.rpm</A</A>> rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/5.0/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-1.alpha.rpm</A</A>> Red Hat 4.2 - ------------- i386: rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.i386.rpm</A</A>> rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.i386.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.i386.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/i386/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.i386.rpm</A</A>> alpha: rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/Xconfigurator-2.6.1-1.alpha.rpm</A</A>> rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.alpha.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.alpha.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/alpha/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.alpha.rpm</A</A>> SPARC: rpm -Uvh <A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/sparc/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.sparc.rpm"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/sparc/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.sparc.rpm</A">ftp://ftp.redhat.com/updates/4.2/sparc/xserver-wrapper-1.1-0.sparc.rpm</A</A>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNNiGsqUg6PHLopv5AQHsHgP/aPPd9omBYNM+ie1zOH+pxLRzouz/I6cq gdfzsb+0Wo/b6+0mIyAuKct5S1MQP695yx62EEMu6j/y54+jj2dTkGpNpdohbt3+ jRGwxyQ6lHv2na/IFFKYPSYJdVT5bRbKz+/Tpi4AxYYYW1pIe57P9xxGB7aRV3f1 veW8HK4mvbU= =s3yj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Netdate
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Hi group! I just found the command "Netdate". It works like a champ! BUTTTT, I used my ISP (Straubing.baynet.de) as the time source. Afterwards my computer told me that it was February 7 2036! So, can anyone tell me the name of a computer in Germany (or on German time, CET) that has the correct time? THANKS ! JIM -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Hi all!; I'm using SuSE 4.4.1 the box is dated March 1997 and is the 4 CD set. I would like to use YaST to install a program from CD #4. How can I do that? Thanks JIM -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question:
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

If you open yast and select "Choose/Install packages", then choose "Install packages" (the third item from the bottom on this menu). The screen that comes up is a horizontally split window with "Source: (none)" highlighted blue in the upper left hand corner. Hit the down arrow and you are given a choice of "Directory, FTP, Source medium, or Floppy" (this is how you update via ftp and suse's ftp server, too). Select "Directory" and point to your rpm's. I installed beta-3 via ftp (even while using kde as my window manager while doing it) and it worked perfect. Good luck michael Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Sorry for this question, but Im trying to learn the operation of Yast. > Example: > > Say I download a program in rpm format (eg: KDE beta 3.1)and download it > to a directory in /root/download. Can I use Yast to install and > configure the program and if so how? Or must this be undertaken by hand? > > Currently I have installed several programs, netscape 3.0.4, > Communicator 4.0.4, ezppp and StarOffice4.0. However all of these > programs have been installed by hand so to speak with help from on line > doumentation. Was wondering if Yast can be used to undertake this > process instead. This is a stand alone system, running SuSE 5.1 > > TIA > > ch > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0
by rknebel＠csrlink.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 02:46:40AM +0000, Frank Pawlak wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2:30pm, rknebel(a)csrlink.net wrote: > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0 > > > > Hi, > > I just stated using suse and cannot get my Accel X4.0 to install off of my > > cdrom. > > Whenever I type ./Install I get permission denied. I even tried putting an > > sh in front of it. > > Anyone using Accel 4.0 on suse 5.1? > > Thanks Alot > > sh install.<whatever comes next> should get it done. > Cheers, > Frank Thanks for the info but unfortunatly it still says permission denied > > -- > > Rick Knebel > > rknebel(a)csrlink.net > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >-- End of excerpt from rknebel(a)csrlink.net > > > > -- > > > "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than > when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" > -- Marshall Lumsden > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Rick Knebel rknebel(a)csrlink.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Help Starting Apps with Afterstep/TkDesk
by jkarns＠ares.csd.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Have you seen the article on tkDesk in the current LJ? Not sure if this subject was covered, but there was a lot of useful info - written by tkDesk's programmer. ========================================================================= John Karns jkarns(a)ares.csd.net On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, David E. Edwards wrote: > I use Afterstep vs1.0, and TkDesk. I want to start some apps at > startup time, and I need some advice on how to do this correctly. > I see where I can start an app (eq tkdesk) from within .xinitrc as a > background job. I also see where I can execute an app. from within > .steprc in the InitFunction. I believe that I can also have apps > executed by tkdesk at execution time (although I don't know how > yet:-)) > My questions are: > 1) which is the best way to start up some basic apps in X Windows > (eg. tkdesk, xvtdl, plan, xfmail, netscape, xwpe etc) - as > background?? foreground?? > > 2) how do I get them to start up on specific windows on my desktop?? > > 3) how do I setup tkdesk to execute apps at startup?? - on specific > windows!(i've subscribed to the tkdesk mailing list, but no reply yet) > > 4) Unrelated - how can I get access to the extra keys on my windoze > 104 key keyboard. > > Thanks for your patience, and your replies. > Dave E. > -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- > No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! > ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- > SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com > 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > WWW: <A HREF="http://www.afterstep.org/"><A HREF="http://www.afterstep.org/</A">http://www.afterstep.org/</A</A>> > FTP: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/</A">ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/</A</A>> > MAIL: <A HREF="http://www.eosys.com/mailing-list/AfterStep.html"><A HREF="http://www.eosys.com/mailing-list/AfterStep.html</A">http://www.eosys.com/mailing-list/AfterStep.html</A</A>> > FAQ: <A HREF="http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/zamboni/afterstep/FAQ.html"><A HREF="http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/zamboni/afterstep/FAQ.html</A">http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/zamboni/afterstep/FAQ.html</A</A>> > > To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail afterstep-request(a)eosys.com > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help: cdrom writer for Linux
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

the scsi plextor 2x4 it a great drive in linux, and it supports disk at once writing (granted... cdrecord and cdwrite do not yet:) check out <A HREF="http://www.plextor.com/"><A HREF="http://www.plextor.com/</A">http://www.plextor.com/</A</A>> i then bought mine at <A HREF="http://www.necx.com/"><A HREF="http://www.necx.com/</A">http://www.necx.com/</A</A>> On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Scott Gray wrote: > > Hi, > > Would someone please recommend an inexpensive cdrom writer for Linux. > > Thanks, :-) > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Scott Gray <1sgray(a)preferred.com> > Date: 21-Feb-98 > Time: 15:57:29 > > We work in the dark > We do what we can > We give what we have > Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task > The rest is the madness of art. > > > -- Henry James > ---------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ...................................................................... There isn't any reason why Linux can't be implemented as an enterprise computing solution. Find out what you've been missing while you've been rebooting Windows NT. -- Eric Hammond -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] IDE in SB AWE 32 PnP
by jbrand＠willy.wsc.edu 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Hi, the ide interface on soundblasters is (almost) like any other. the first thing is to make sure it is enabled in the first place, use the jumpers or the pnp software from <A HREF="http://www.creaf.com/"><A HREF="http://www.creaf.com/</A">http://www.creaf.com/</A</A>> then you want to set the card to irq 15, not 14 (secondary ide). if it is a pnp card, linux may have a problem, unles linux can see the ide interface at boot up. if you do have to use the isapnp tools to turn it on, then you may not be able to do it. Any one else have a SB64? this is from my experiance with soundblasters. the older cards with jumpers are much nicer. On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, [iso-8859-1] José Valerdi Tormo wrote: > Hello, I try configure in Linux the IDE interface of my SB AWE 32 PnP. Anybody knows which driver I have to use it or how I can configure it. > > Thanks. > ...................................................................... There isn't any reason why Linux can't be implemented as an enterprise computing solution. Find out what you've been missing while you've been rebooting Windows NT. -- Eric Hammond -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[wtopa@ix.netcom.com: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installer Problems]
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Tom Sorry about the forward but Sendmail on SuSE quit working for some, as of yet, unknown reason. Back on Slackware for now. Wayne -----Forwarded message from Wayne Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com>----- Message-ID: <19980202214840.14575(a)ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:48:40 -0500 From: Wayne Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installer Problems References: <34D63A2C.B767E6CE(a)fastrans.net> <34D64AF3.BCF12EFF(a)suse.de> <34D6652A.1E58EA88(a)fastrans.net> <34D67CB8.F1FEAE1(a)suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89 In-Reply-To: <34D67CB8.F1FEAE1(a)suse.de>; from Bodo Bauer on Mon, Feb 02, 1998 at 06:11:04PM -0800 Tom I agree the the install of SuSE isn't a bit like Slackware or the others but: Even tho the book is a bit confusing, it does work. You just have to expirment a bit. I loaded up a BIG installation 1st and ran out of HD space ( Over 1 Gig!) so backed off, started again & installed from scratch again. Some things fell into line after I had done it a couple of times. Do I understand why some things are done as they are, no. Do I care, YES. But, even if a newbie would have trouble, you seem to have done enough other installations that it will soon come to you. Bottom line, I prefer Slackware, as I don't like Installation managers that say they do it all, and don't. SuSE isn't perfect, yet, but im my mind I would do this again over RedHat 5 times to sunday. I have only been using this for a week and I like the challenge more on this distribution then on any of the others. It took me less time to make SuSE work (somewhat) than I spent on RedHat or Debian. I'll take the good with the bad and stay plugging away st SuSE. The support is better then I ever saw from redhat and this list has as much information as the Debian list. Stay cool and keep at it. German engineering has always been good and I think that SuSE Linux may just prove that the Software guys over there Know what they are doing. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Wayne Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installer Problems Date: Mon, Feb 02, 1998 at 06:11:04PM -0800 In reply to:Bodo Bauer Quoting Bodo Bauer (bb(a)suse.de): > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > Yes, but the messages are meaningless and are not informative as to > > finish time, etc.The installer should not allow the user to anything > > which would jeopardize the install. > > Nothing happends if you reboot, only the scripts are starting again. > It won't mess up your system. > > > > > However, by probing around, I see the Yast installer is > > > unpacking > > > > > > MAN pages and all sorts of other stuff, unbeknownst to the user. > > > > > > > You need to alert the installer that something else is > > > happening. > > > > > > It's generating a locate DB, a apropos DB, doublechecks the > > > permissions, etc. > > > > > > > It shouldn't do the locate db stuff unless the user wants to. It > > adds quite a bit of time to wait for it to finish. > > But this doesn't hurt anybody. You can use the system during the > scripts are running, that's why we put them in the background. > > > > > I have noticed that if you reboot too soon, Yast appears to be > > > activated > > > > at boot up to either finish or do MORE stuff, which is not > > > properly > > > > explained. So I never really know if everything has been > > > installed > > > > properly. > > > > > > If you install the system the very first time, you can't switch > > > the > > > CDs because your root filestystem is on CD1. > > > > THEN EXPLAIN THIS DURING THE INSTALL. > > YaST brings up a message, what else do you want? 100 of pages that > explain what is done exactly? Noone would read this (exept you...). > > > > That's why yast is > > > started right after rebooting the system. It should now complete > > > the > > > installation and ask you for CD2 and or CD3 to get the missing > > > packages > > > installed. > > > > > > > NO IT DOES NOT ... Once you reboot the system, the installer may > > start, but there is nothing prompting me to insert Cd2, and since > > that is not explained - why would I be inserting CD2 or 3 after a > > reboot? SIMPLIFY! > > You are the first person I heard of who had this trouble. It seems it > is simple enough for anybody else. Am I wrong? > > > You can reboot and just use the machine how you see fit after the > > first reboot. Nothing is being explained on the console directly to > > the installer (user) that you are going to need CD 2 or 3. NEVER. > > > > What you fail to understand, that anyone that has previously used > > Solaris, Caldera, Slackware, or even Red Hat - you don't reboot the > > machine to finish the install. All packages are extracted, THEN the > > machine is configured and THEN you do a reboot. > > It's the same with our distribution. Perhaps this is the mistake you > made. When YaST is finished the first time the installation procedure > is going back to initrc. Then the installed system will be bootet. You > can say the installation is made 'during the boot'. > > > If you've mounted CD 1 as a filesystem, then you can UNMOUNT IT for > > CD 2 and 3. > > During the very first installation you can't unmount it, becouse it > is used as root-filesystem. When the installed system runs, switching > CDs is not a problem. > > > You are overfamiliar with your installer. SIMPLIFY > > SIMPLIFY SIMPLIFY > > > > Watch someone who has NEVER installed from your distribution. And > > don't coach them along the way. > > > > You'll see what I mean. > > I did, it worked... > > > > Then Yast starts some scripts like told above. If these scripts > > > don't > > > get enough time to finish (because of a reboot) the procedure > > > starts > > > again... > > > > > > > YES BUT THIS IS NOT EXPLAINED. The first time I installed your 5.0, > > I wrongly assumed the install was finished when in fact it was still > > completing as explained before. > > It is explained in the message you get before the scripts are > startet. > > Ciao, > BB > > PS: Please dont SHOUT, I have no problem reading small caps.... -- Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -----End of forwarded message----- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question:
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 9:16pm, Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question: > > Sorry for this question, but Im trying to learn the operation of Yast. > Example: > > Say I download a program in rpm format (eg: KDE beta 3.1)and download it > to a directory in /root/download. Can I use Yast to install and > configure the program and if so how? Or must this be undertaken by hand? Start YAST and go to the package install screen. Point YAST to the directory where the new packages are located and do a package install. > Currently I have installed several programs, netscape 3.0.4, > Communicator 4.0.4, ezppp and StarOffice4.0. However all of these > programs have been installed by hand so to speak with help from on line > doumentation. Was wondering if Yast can be used to undertake this > process instead. This is a stand alone system, running SuSE 5.1 I don't believe that YAST would be of service with these, at least I have installed them that same way that you have, which doesn't necessarily imply that I am correct. Cheers, Frank > TIA > > ch > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Chris Herrnberger -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 2:30pm, rknebel(a)csrlink.net wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0 > > Hi, > I just stated using suse and cannot get my Accel X4.0 to install off of my > cdrom. > Whenever I type ./Install I get permission denied. I even tried putting an > sh in front of it. > Anyone using Accel 4.0 on suse 5.1? > Thanks Alot h install.<whatever comes next> should get it done. Cheers, Frank > -- > Rick Knebel > rknebel(a)csrlink.net > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from rknebel(a)csrlink.net -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 1:03pm, Ted Harding wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST > > And Hi again! > > The question this time concerns how to preserve manual changes made to system > setup from being re-set by YaST. > > The simplest answer would be to the question: what files are changed when YaST > reconfigures the system? Then, I would know what files to keep "backup" copies > of, so that I can then do a "diff" with the new versions created by YaST, > restore changed features I want to keep, and allow the changes which I really > want. > > With thanks, > Ted. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> > Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 13:03:24 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Ted Harding Is it files or permissions that are causing you to post this question? Cheers, Frank -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] testing
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 19, 4:16pm, Richard Pepin wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] testing > > Sorry for the inconvenience, just testing. > I did'nt receive anything for the last 48 hours, wondering if your server > is down, I have been disconnected from the list, or I am having trouble > with my ISP. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Richard Pepin Your test has come through loud and clear, and would suspect that I you get this things are working properly. Yet, I have received numerous messages from the list in the last 48 hours. Hope this helps. Frank -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE-beta-3 and susewm
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

On Feb 21, 12:56pm, Ted Harding wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE-beta-3 and susewm > > Hi All, > > I'm using S.u.S.E.-5.1. I did not install KDE-beta-1 off the CD because I was > already using KDE-beta-3 (which fixes several problems and is anyway better). > > So I installed KDE-beta-3 from kde.org's own RPMs once S.u.S.E.-5.1 was > installed. > > I suppose this means that the KDE installation is NOT integrated into the > susewm configuration setup, as it would have been, I dare say, if I had > installed KDE-beta-1 from the CD (the S.u.S.E.-5.1 information booklet says it > is "in susewm integriert"). > > So I would like to ask: having done a "foreign" post-installation of > KDE-beta-3, is it possible to retrospectively integrate the installation with > susewm? I believe that the Beta3 version of kde is available from the SuSE ftp server. I have it installed on my SuSE Linux installation, and it is integrated with the SuSE desktop. By that I mean that it is a desktop option selectable under other window managers. However, it is brain dead as far as the other packages that I have installed. I think that KDE is a work environment in itself -- it has its' own mail. news, browser etc. I still had to access that suse packages from a term from the kde desktop. Hope that this all sheds some light on this for you. Can't be more specific right now as I am on FreeBSD, but if you have some specifics, I can reboot to SuSE. Cheers, Frank > This would be nice, because the installed KDE desktop does not know about the > S.u.S.E. packages which were installed off the CD (whereas, for instance, > fvwm-2 would know, because susewm would have set up the configuration). > > With thanks, > Ted. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> > Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 12:56:23 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Ted Harding -- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer" -- Marshall Lumsden -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question:
by stugreen＠bga.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Chris, In the case of an rpm the installation is 'rpm -ihv package.rpm' or 'rpm -Uhv package.rpm' if it is an upgrade. It is wise, however to install the package easy in the a1 set of packages on the first cdrom. (the exact path is /cdrom/suse/a1/easy.rpm). This package builds symbolic links that accomodate the expected locations for rpms and tarballs obtained via downmloads. Regards, Stu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Nubie Yast Question:
by chris123＠netcom.ca 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Sorry for this question, but Im trying to learn the operation of Yast. Example: Say I download a program in rpm format (eg: KDE beta 3.1)and download it to a directory in /root/download. Can I use Yast to install and configure the program and if so how? Or must this be undertaken by hand? Currently I have installed several programs, netscape 3.0.4, Communicator 4.0.4, ezppp and StarOffice4.0. However all of these programs have been installed by hand so to speak with help from on line doumentation. Was wondering if Yast can be used to undertake this process instead. This is a stand alone system, running SuSE 5.1 TIA ch -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help: cdrom writer for Linux
by gecko＠freecar.com 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

What's inexpensive? I've used the HP SureStore CDWriter 6020 successfully with my SuSE distribution.. didn't have to get any extra packages from the net. On 21-Feb-98 Scott Gray wrote: > >Hi, > >Would someone please recommend an inexpensive cdrom writer for Linux. > >Thanks, :-) > >---------------------------------- >E-Mail: Scott Gray <1sgray(a)preferred.com> >Date: 21-Feb-98 >Time: 15:57:29 > >We work in the dark >We do what we can >We give what we have >Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task >The rest is the madness of art. > > > -- Henry James >---------------------------------- >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem, ISDN
by txnet＠lcc.net 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

I have a Zyxel 2864 ISDN modem that connects fine in as a bundled pair under Win NT and Win95; I don't know how to set the thing up in Linux. I'd be happy to just get it up as an analog modem just to get on the net with Linux. Also, I have an Adaptec 3840UW; it seems to be working fine; does the "extended, no_reset" modifiers need to be added to this SCSI device ? It seems to work fine right now (with Linux 5.1). Thanks. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] FWD >aic7xxx bootdisk version 7
by hettar＠teleport.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

FWD: to [SuSE] news groups Hello world, SuSE, Hello Doug Ledford, > It's suppossed to. What you do, is start the item in #2, then go do item #1 > on another VT and that will save the log messages somewhere so that they can > be sent to me. The only thing you have to do is make sure that the output > of #2 is directed to a file on your IDE drive instead of a SCSI drive. Now, > once you have #2 started, switch to another VT and start #1. Also have > another shell open on a third VT, and after about 20 seconds, switch to it > and issue the command "shutdown -nr now" to force a reboot and close out the > log file. In case you're wondering what I'm talking about by VTs, when you > hit <ALT-F1) that takes you to VT #1, <ALT-F2> goes to VT #2, etc. You need > to be logged in on three of them to do everything I've talked about here. No go:tty1 : cd /lib/2.0.33/modules/scsi #insmod aic7xxx.o tty2 : tail -f /proc/kmsg > /tmp/kernel.output 2>&1 tty3 : shutdown -nr now after 30seconds This will produce a file named kernel.output in /tmp/ BUT it has nothing in it. So I can't give you want I need to give you. :( something wrong here? tty1 is virtual terminal 1 and so on to 6 (7 is reserved for X) > > > If you don't want to have to mess around with compiling new kernels all the > time, there is a disk image on my ftp site (ftp.dialnet.net) under > /pub/linux/aic7xxx/boot_disks/5.0.7/SuSE that is an SuSE provided boot disk > of my latest code. It may help. If nothing else, with it you can boot from > floppy instead of having to recompile your kernel all the time, and you can > hit <ALT-F4) to see the messages the driver prints out. Additionally, the > 5.0.7 driver made a change that might help you out (it disables tagged > queueing by default, which may help). > :(This bootdisk.img does not work. Actualy it gives me the same message as when doing a normal aic7xxx kernel direct support normal boot (lilo) the looping thing. The only bootdisk that is working is the orignal suse5.1 disk (distro boot) and I think it is *386 speed compiled* and *4.1.1 version of aic7xxx* Now the thing is with the '*' notes of intrest. Now my kernel is compiled with 'pentium speed' now if the new bootdisk.img is compiled with 'pentium speed' this might be the reason, tho I don't know if it is. I gona write to SuSE news groups asking if the new bootdisk.img is compiled with 'pentium speed' Ehh.. Ok with that (prob I am not right) but I might be right on why my kernel is failing, as I am compiled with 'pentium speed' and I will be trying after I write this letter, and after downloading a 6meg kernel ver 7, I will compile it with '386 speed' note* I do not have an intel processor, I do have an AMD K6 233, this might make a difference here. I guess I go try, this is an update of what I am doing. Steven Udell hettar(a)teleport.com I wonder why the new bootdisk.img is not working like the orignal bootdisk.img (distro) I mean I did everything I do on the (distros,old) boot disk that I do on the new one. It LOOPS with the new one. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help: cdrom writer for Linux
by 1sgray＠preferred.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Carlos, Thanks for the help. The problem is that I've taken the list of cdrom writers know to be supported (found at www.suse.com) by SuSE to the folks responsible for purchasing. It's been some time now. Apparently, the're having trouble locating any of the drives specified on the list. I may be wrong but I think the cdrom writers on that list are fairly old. I was hoping that someone might recommend a newer model cdrom writer that is known to work with SuSE. I just want to thank you once again for replying to this message. I've got to learn to be more specific. The original message was very unclear. Thanks, :-) On 21-Feb-98 Carlos Betancourt wrote: > > I do not remember the names, but you have several ones in S.u.S.E 5.1 > Hope it helps. > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Scott Gray <1sgray(a)preferred.com> Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 16:55:23 We work in the dark We do what we can We give what we have Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task The rest is the madness of art. -- Henry James ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Help Starting Apps with Afterstep/TkDesk
by dedwards＠technologist.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

I use Afterstep vs1.0, and TkDesk. I want to start some apps at startup time, and I need some advice on how to do this correctly. I see where I can start an app (eq tkdesk) from within .xinitrc as a background job. I also see where I can execute an app. from within .steprc in the InitFunction. I believe that I can also have apps executed by tkdesk at execution time (although I don't know how yet:-)) My questions are: 1) which is the best way to start up some basic apps in X Windows (eg. tkdesk, xvtdl, plan, xfmail, netscape, xwpe etc) - as background?? foreground?? 2) how do I get them to start up on specific windows on my desktop?? 3) how do I setup tkdesk to execute apps at startup?? - on specific windows!(i've subscribed to the tkdesk mailing list, but no reply yet) 4) Unrelated - how can I get access to the extra keys on my windoze 104 key keyboard. Thanks for your patience, and your replies. Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] help: cdrom writer for Linux
by cbetan＠unet.ve 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

I do not remember the names, but you have several ones in S.u.S.E 5.1 Hope it helps. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] help: cdrom writer for Linux
by 1sgray＠preferred.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi, Would someone please recommend an inexpensive cdrom writer for Linux. Thanks, :-) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Scott Gray <1sgray(a)preferred.com> Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 15:57:29 We work in the dark We do what we can We give what we have Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task The rest is the madness of art. -- Henry James ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0 (fwd)
by deem＠wdm.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Mine works just great. Could you send a copy of what shows: # ls -la /mnt/linux-freebsd/ Also are issueing the command as root ? -Dee >>>>> Forwarded message from rknebel(a)csrlink.net Hi, I just stated using suse and cannot get my Accel X4.0 to install off of my cdrom. Whenever I type ./Install I get permission denied. I even tried putting an sh in front of it. Anyone using Accel 4.0 on suse 5.1? Thanks Alot -- Rick Knebel rknebel(a)csrlink.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e << End forwarded message -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

On 21-Feb-98 Darren wrote: > On 21-Feb-98 Ted Harding wrote: >>The question this time concerns how to preserve manual changes made to system >>setup from being re-set by YaST. > > I think the better question is what does yast use to configure the system. > Yast uses SuSEconfig to read the rc.config file. See if you can set the > changes you want in rc.config file or the permission.easy file. Those are > the files that yast uses to configure the system (are there more?) I think this "are there more?" is probably the question I'm really trying to ask too! Thanks for the response. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 19:50:28 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Has Anyone Gotten An HP 770 Series Printer To Work ?
by stugreen＠bga.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hello, A quick question - has anyone gotten an HP 700 series printer to work with the aapsfilter? If so, would you mind sharing the how-to? Regards, Stu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] IDE in SB AWE 32 PnP
by zentara＠mindspring.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

> José Valerdi Tormo wrote: > > Hello, I try configure in Linux the IDE interface of my SB AWE 32 PnP. > Anybody knows which driver I have to use it or how I can configure it. > > Thanks. Hi, the AWE32 pnp will work under Suse if you just set up the pnp in boot.local. You need a line in /etc/rc.d/boot.local as follows: "isapnp isapnp.conf". The isapnp.conf should be in /etc It needs to be specially handled for the AWE32. Below is a copy of mine which you can paste in. ############################################################################################ #/etc/isapnp.conf (READPORT 0x0203) (ISOLATE) (IDENTIFY *) (CONFIGURE CTL0044/826647 (LD 0 (INT 0 (IRQ 7 (MODE +E))) (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1)) (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5)) (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220)) (IO 1 (BASE 0x0330)) (IO 2 (BASE 0x0388)) (ACT Y) )) ################################################################################# (CONFIGURE CTL0044/826647 (LD 2 # ANSI string -->WaveTable<-- (IO 0 (BASE 0x0620)) (IO 1 (BASE 0x0A20)) (IO 2 (BASE 0x0E20)) (ACT Y) )) ########################################################################################## (CONFIGURE CTL0044/826647 (LD 3 # Compatible device id PNPb02f # ANSI string -->Game<-- (IO 0 (BASE 0x0200)) (ACT Y) )) ########################################################################################## #(CONFIGURE CTL0044/826647 (LD 4 # ANSI string -->StereoEnhance<-- #(IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) #(ACT Y) #)) ######################################################################### After you get the pnp setup, you can do a "insmod sound" as root, or if you have "kerneld" running, it will load the sound module automatically. To check if it's running do a "cat /dev/sndstat" Full info on Awe32's under linux can be found at <A HREF="http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/index-.html"><A HREF="http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/index-.html</A">http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/index-.html</A</A>> SuSe runs the card really well after pnp is setup. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Accel X4.0
by rknebel＠csrlink.net 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi, I just stated using suse and cannot get my Accel X4.0 to install off of my cdrom. Whenever I type ./Install I get permission denied. I even tried putting an sh in front of it. Anyone using Accel 4.0 on suse 5.1? Thanks Alot -- Rick Knebel rknebel(a)csrlink.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mutt launching web browser
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 02:17:29PM -0500, wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > depends on what version of mutt, Michael. .89 & up, no longer support > that function. > > bind pager \Cb previous-page # was "browse-url" > # bind pager ,B browse-url # compensate for \Cb > > #set url_regexp="((ftp|http)://|mailto:)[^ ]*[^., \n\t>\"]" > set web_browser=url_handler.sh # program to use when viewing URLs > > These are all I can find in the old .muttrc. > > HTH > wayne > Definitely does not work in the 89 release. rats. This was kinda like the line I had from an earlier version. I also had a simpler one that did not launch a shell script. Have to look around a bit more. Thanks. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Keyboard lockup vs stty sane
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi Claes, Wildman, etc, On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Claes G Lindblad wrote: > Hi Jim, Wildman & all, > > On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, The Wildman wrote: > > Now _I_ have a question for you: > > How can you switch terms if the keyboard is locked? > > You have a very good point there, Wildman! :-) Yes, he does. I guess that I should have said that the program lock up. Or at least I get to a point that I don't know what to do and the program will not respond. Normally at that point I do a "c-z" to put the program in the background and then I do a "kill 0". This will works most times, but about 100f the time I've got it so screwed up that all that will work is the change tty keys. All other keys seem to be dead. This was what I was meaning. So after reading this do you still think that doing "ps -a / kill <pid>" is the best thing or is there something better? > > > ... Just enter stty sane and you should be fine. > > Unfortunately, that seems not to be sufficient in Europe, > where characters above 0x7f are used, too. For this reason, > there is a tougher sanity enforcement: > /usr/bin/reset > which, among other things perform an 'stty sane'. > > So, if 'stty sane' will not bring your sanity back, > try 'reset'. > > Have fun! > Claes in Lund, Sweden. > -- www.algonet.se/~claesg -- > Thanks for all your help! JIM -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mutt launching web browser
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mutt launching web browser Date: Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 10:00:27AM -0800 In reply to:Michael Perry Quoting Michael Perry(mperry(a)basin.com): > > > Hi all- > > I used to have the config line in mutt to launch urls and somewhow have > lost that precious bit of information. > > Can someone help? depends on what version of mutt, Michael. .89 & up, no longer support that function. bind pager \Cb previous-page # was "browse-url" # bind pager ,B browse-url # compensate for \Cb #set url_regexp="((ftp|http)://|mailto:)[^ ]*[^., \n\t>\"]" set web_browser=url_handler.sh # program to use when viewing URLs These are all I can find in the old .muttrc. HTH wayne This is all I can find in the OLD .muttrc > -- > > --Michael Perry-- > mperry(a)basin.com > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- "I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them." -- Isaac Asimov _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by gecko＠freecar.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

I think the better question is what does yast use to configure the system. Yast uses SuSEconfig to read the rc.config file. See if you can set the changes you want in rc.config file or the permission.easy file. Those are the files that y ast uses to configure the system (are there more?) On 21-Feb-98 Ted Harding wrote: >The question this time concerns how to preserve manual changes made to system >setup from being re-set by YaST. > ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Darren <gecko(a)freecar.com> Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 10:05:52 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] IDE in SB AWE 32 PnP
by jovator＠arrakis.es 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BD3EFA.5A9E1EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I try configure in Linux the IDE interface of my SB AWE 32 PnP. = Anybody knows which driver I have to use it or how I can configure it. Thanks. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BD3EFA.5A9E1EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.2016.0"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello, I try configure = in Linux the=20 IDE interface of my SB AWE 32 PnP. Anybody knows which driver I have to = use it=20 or how I can configure it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial = size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BD3EFA.5A9E1EA0-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] mutt launching web browser
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi all- I used to have the config line in mutt to launch urls and somewhow have lost that precious bit of information. Can someone help? -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE-beta-3 and susewm
by nospam_paw＠club-internet.fr 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Ted Harding wrote: > So I would like to ask: having done a "foreign" post-installation of > KDE-beta-3, is it possible to retrospectively integrate the installation with > susewm? > Hi, I did the same thing, S.uS.E. created /opt/kde even though I didn't install the kde beta1 supplied. When I later installed kde beta 3 I found a S.u.S.E. menu with links to all the supplied apps, even those not installed. Phil. -- ------------------------------------------------- Too much of a good thing is WONDERFULL - Mae West ------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] testing
by pepr＠mail.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Sorry for the inconvenience, just testing. I did'nt receive anything for the last 48 hours, wondering if your server is down, I have been disconnected from the list, or I am having trouble with my ISP. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE-beta-3 and susewm
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi All, I'm using S.u.S.E.-5.1. I did not install KDE-beta-1 off the CD because I was already using KDE-beta-3 (which fixes several problems and is anyway better). So I installed KDE-beta-3 from kde.org's own RPMs once S.u.S.E.-5.1 was installed. I suppose this means that the KDE installation is NOT integrated into the susewm configuration setup, as it would have been, I dare say, if I had installed KDE-beta-1 from the CD (the S.u.S.E.-5.1 information booklet says it is "in susewm integriert"). So I would like to ask: having done a "foreign" post-installation of KDE-beta-3, is it possible to retrospectively integrate the installation with susewm? This would be nice, because the installed KDE desktop does not know about the S.u.S.E. packages which were installed off the CD (whereas, for instance, fvwm-2 would know, because susewm would have set up the configuration). With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 12:56:23 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Preserving system changes from YaST
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

And Hi again! The question this time concerns how to preserve manual changes made to system setup from being re-set by YaST. The simplest answer would be to the question: what files are changed when YaST reconfigures the system? Then, I would know what files to keep "backup" copies of, so that I can then do a "diff" with the new versions created by YaST, restore changed features I want to keep, and allow the changes which I really want. With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 21-Feb-98 Time: 13:03:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Keyboard lockup vs stty sane
by claesg＠algonet.se 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Hi Jim, Wildman & all, On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, The Wildman wrote: > Now _I_ have a question for you: > How can you switch terms if the keyboard is locked? You have a very good point there, Wildman! :-) > ... Just enter stty sane and you should be fine. Unfortunately, that seems not to be sufficient in Europe, where characters above 0x7f are used, too. For this reason, there is a tougher sanity enforcement: /usr/bin/reset which, among other things perform an 'stty sane'. So, if 'stty sane' will not bring your sanity back, try 'reset'. Have fun! Claes in Lund, Sweden. -- www.algonet.se/~claesg -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] mutt
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

On 20-Feb-98 rknebel(a)csrlink.net wrote: > > Hi All, > I just installed suse and am trying to get mutt to work in color. > The version installed with the install is against curses and when I use > an xterm window I get just back and white and if I use rxvt it crashes > saying there is a problem with xterm-color. > I cannot even find xterm-color to install it. > I also cannot find a slang library anywhere but I presume there is one > since slrn is installed. > If anyone who uses mutt with suse can give me a hand I would appreciate > it. > Thanks Alot. I used mutt quite often and had no problems with color and rxvt. You can get slang from space.mit.edu which compiled without problem at least here. With the version 1.03 you can also run slrn 0946. If you want you can read JED's comments about xterm-color and his approach which is to use rxvt. By the way I compiled rxvt on SuSE 5.1 with no problems either here. I would definitely try compiling slang and then use the .muttrc to write color statements. It works. It looks especially nice in an rxvt. Also see the mutt world wide web home page from the Linux Apps and Utilities page. BTW, I compiled my own mutt with no problems against the slang library. > ps. I am also having troulbe installing my AccelX V4.0 and applix 4.3.7 > from redhat on my system . > The install scripts keep crashing. I copied all the rpm files from the Applix 4.3.7 cd to my hard disk and ran them there. I had some problems with the cdrom I was using. This got me to applixware quite easily. > Rick Knebel > rknebel(a)csrlink.net > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Keyboard lockup
by wildman＠microserve.net 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Jim Hatridge wrote: > > Hi all; > > Got a question!, Sometimes when I'm playing around with new programs my > keyboard locks up. Nothing works, I can only change to another termal > (i.e. alt-FX). So far the only way I could get the screen usable again was > by rebooting (shutdown now -r) from another termal. > > The question is: is there a way to force a logout from another term? > To answer your question: yes, kill the login process ps -a (look at the pid for /bin/login -- user) kill <pid> That will force a logout on that term. Actually, it won't be a real logout, but close enough. Now _I_ have a question for you: How can you switch terms if the keyboard is locked? Do you mean that you can't see what your typing? If so, that is a common problem - some programmers forget to return to a sane state. Just enter stty sane and you should be fine. The Wildman ------- There is no gravity. The earth just sucks. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] mutt
by rknebel＠csrlink.net 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Hi All, I just installed suse and am trying to get mutt to work in color. The version installed with the install is against curses and when I use an xterm window I get just back and white and if I use rxvt it crashes saying there is a problem with xterm-color. I cannot even find xterm-color to install it. I also cannot find a slang library anywhere but I presume there is one since slrn is installed. If anyone who uses mutt with suse can give me a hand I would appreciate it. Thanks Alot. ps. I am also having troulbe installing my AccelX V4.0 and applix 4.3.7 from redhat on my system . The install scripts keep crashing. Rick Knebel rknebel(a)csrlink.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Keyboard lockup
by gecko＠freecar.com 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

kill the shell program. If you log in as root, do a 'ps aux' and find the shell that's running in the locked term and 'kill -9 #' On 20-Feb-98 Jim Hatridge wrote: > > >Hi all; > >Got a question!, Sometimes when I'm playing around with new programs my >keyboard locks up. Nothing works, I can only change to another termal >(i.e. alt-FX). So far the only way I could get the screen usable again was >by rebooting (shutdown now -r) from another termal. > >The question is: is there a way to force a logout from another term? > > >Thanks > > >JIM > > > > > > > > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Keyboard lockup
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Hi all; Got a question!, Sometimes when I'm playing around with new programs my keyboard locks up. Nothing works, I can only change to another termal (i.e. alt-FX). So far the only way I could get the screen usable again was by rebooting (shutdown now -r) from another termal. The question is: is there a way to force a logout from another term? Thanks JIM -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sound
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sound Date: Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 02:47:06PM -0500 In reply to:Kyle Johnson Quoting Kyle Johnson(kjohnson(a)usitc.gov): > > > I have about 8 weeks of linux experience under my belt, and I'm about > ready to tackle the job of activating sound under my SuSE 5.1 > distribution. In general, how does one do this? A couple of applications > (including Tkdesk) emit a message that "/dev/sound is not recognized". > How do I activate it, or load the sound module? There _is_ such a file in > the /dev directory. > > My sound card is a basic Acer AW32, with a Crystal sound chip (PnP), and > it's listed among the supported cards in the OSS-Linux site (4Front). I > understand that re-compiling the kernel is probably not necessary, and I'd > like to postpone that adventure a bit if I can. Could someone give me > some advice, or point me to some of the appropriate documents? Kyle If you have the OSS software loaded, then the command "soundon" enable the OSS sound software. To test, find a .wav or .au file and do "play filename.au or .wav". The command to enable the OSS sound should be included in one of the init.d files. Disable OSS sound with "soundoff". OSS install puts executable files in /usr/lib/oss so you will have to put sym-links for the play and mplay executables into your path somewhare. I use /usr/local/bin. If you don't have the OSS software, use Yast to load the "wavplay" package. It has an executable called play that is used to play sounds. To enable sound for other them OSS software, you do have to compile sound into either your kernel or a module. HTH wayne > > Thanks! > > -Kyle > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Real programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe stress freaks and crystallography weenies. FORTRAN is for wimp engineers who wear white socks. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] sound
by vb＠kanguruh.ebis.de 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

>I have about 8 weeks of linux experience under my belt, and I'm about >ready to tackle the job of activating sound under my SuSE 5.1 >distribution. In general, how does one do this? A couple of applications >(including Tkdesk) emit a message that "/dev/sound is not recognized". >How do I activate it, or load the sound module? There _is_ such a file in >the /dev directory. vb@kanguruh:/pub/win32 > locate howto |grep Sound /usr/doc/howto/html/mini/Gravis-Ultra-Sound /usr/doc/howto/html/mini/Soundblaster-16 /usr/doc/howto/html/mini/Soundblaster-AWE ... /usr/doc/howto/html/mini/Soundblaster-AWE.html ... /usr/doc/howto/html/Sound-HOWTO.html ... /usr/doc/howto/html/Sound-Playing-HOWTO.html /usr/doc/howto/mini/Gravis-Ultra-Sound.gz /usr/doc/howto/mini/Soundblaster-16.gz /usr/doc/howto/mini/Soundblaster-AWE.gz /usr/doc/howto/Sound-HOWTO.gz /usr/doc/howto/Sound-Playing-HOWTO.gz VB. -- <A HREF="mailto:vb@ebis.de">mailto:vb@ebis.de</A> ebis Informationssysteme Dachsweg 13, 88339 Bad Waldsee, Germany Phone +49-7524-93421 Fax +49-7524-93423 *** File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] sound
by kjohnson＠usitc.gov 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

I have about 8 weeks of linux experience under my belt, and I'm about ready to tackle the job of activating sound under my SuSE 5.1 distribution. In general, how does one do this? A couple of applications (including Tkdesk) emit a message that "/dev/sound is not recognized". How do I activate it, or load the sound module? There _is_ such a file in the /dev directory. My sound card is a basic Acer AW32, with a Crystal sound chip (PnP), and it's listed among the supported cards in the OSS-Linux site (4Front). I understand that re-compiling the kernel is probably not necessary, and I'd like to postpone that adventure a bit if I can. Could someone give me some advice, or point me to some of the appropriate documents? Thanks! -Kyle -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Accelerated-X
by motteler＠motteler.clark.net 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Bob Gordon writes: > I'd appreciate very much hearing from people who run Accelerated-X. > The reason I'm interested in it is that they support Matrox > Millenium II AGP boards. However, I downloaded their demo and was > quite underwhelmed. I've been running Accelerated-X for several years, on a number of machines, most recently with various Matrox cards. Right now I'm running a mix of Accelerated-X and XFree/SuSE servers on machines with Matrox II and one with a Matrox Mystique card. The accelerated X-servers are a bit faster than XFree, and will often support more card features, such as a mix of 8 and 24 bit color on boards that support it. (That allowed me to run Wabi and still have 24 bit color at other times.) On the down side, both their 3.1 and 4.1 releases initially had buggy Matrox drivers--the first 3.1 driver would hang the system at unexpected times, a major irritation!--though patches appeared fairly quickly at their FTP site, <A HREF="ftp://ftp.xig.com/pub/updates"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.xig.com/pub/updates</A">ftp://ftp.xig.com/pub/updates</A</A>> . In addition to the buggy drivers, I had problems with the way the 4.1 release was bundled. All their earlier releases installed cleanly over XFree86 (well, aside from a problem with "compressed" vs "gzipped" fonts) but even the "minimal" 4.1 install stomped on a lot of XFree stuff it should have left alone (including the nice color xterms!). That was fixable by reinstalling XFree, but was still an irritation. Also, the latest XFree uses the XKB extensions, and needed slightly different xmodmap commands for such things as turning the "windows" key on 104-key keyboards into a control (or other useful) key. -- Howard Motteler motteler(a)umbc.edu Yeah, but *I* have a degree in Linguistics, and *you* are posting to the net using Microsoft Outlook. -- Ayse Sercan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] A nice menu alternative - TkDesk
by gecko＠freecar.com 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

I use XFMail right off the SuSE CDs and I've really really liked it. On 20-Feb-98 Michael Perry wrote: >Also... If you are looking for an advanced emai client I would suggest >checking >out xfmail. I settled on this awhile ago but decided to play around with >procmail stuff; xfmail includes rather nice rules based mail handling BTW. >You >can find a pointer to xfmail at www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml as well as >a bunch of other great stuff. ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: new installation
by mantel＠suse.de 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Hi, On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Rick Knebel wrote: > I am a little new to linux. I have installed redhat a few times without problems. > Got through the install process without too much problems with suse and even have x > windows working. > I would like to use the copy of Accelerated X version 4.0 that I have though. I keep > running into this problem though. > I mount the cdrom and go to the correct directory , but when I try to type ./Install like I > have done on previous installs I get the mesaage bash:permission denied. > I tried to do the install on another computer with redhat running and everything worked > fine. > Does this make sense to anyone? Due to popular demand, we mount CD-ROMs with the "user" option, which allows a normal user to mount a CD. But this implies (for security reasons) "noexec", so you cannot execute binaries directly from the CD. Solution: Modify your /etc/fstab thus: /dev/hda /cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0 and remount the CD or use the long form of the mount command. This means, do not mount the CD-ROM using the command mount /cdrom but use mount /dev/<device> -tiso9660 -oro /cdrom instead. > Does anyone use AccelX 4.0 with Suse 5.1? The last time I checked AccelX it was not possible to use a resolution of 1280x960 but I had to use 1280x1024 instead. This is incorrect, because the width:heigth ratio should be 4:3 (as it is in 800x600, 1024x768 and so on). Because of this limitation (that XFree86 does not have), AccelX is unusable for me, because I want a circle to be a circle and not an ellipse. > Thanks Alot. Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] A nice menu alternative - TkDesk
by mperry＠basin.com 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Hi all- Been kinda busy lately with database chores but wanted to tell some of the people out there that may be looking for a nice menu bar that has great functionality not to forget tkdesk!! It provides a really nice and customizable menu bar, file manager, command line extensions, lotsa stuff. The fourth beta comes with SuSE and the fifth can be downloaded from redhat's ftp site and applied with no problems. I have tkdesk starting each time I begin an X Window session with a minimized file manager starting of my home directory. tkdesk remembers what components of its are running when you shut down. Also... If you are looking for an advanced emai client I would suggest checking out xfmail. I settled on this awhile ago but decided to play around with procmail stuff; xfmail includes rather nice rules based mail handling BTW. You can find a pointer to xfmail at www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml as well as a bunch of other great stuff. --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] new installation
by morche＠sat1.de 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Rick Knebel wrote: ... > I mount the cdrom and go to the correct directory , but when I try to type ./Install like I > have done on previous installs I get the mesaage bash:permission denied. > I tried to do the install on another computer with redhat running and everything worked > fine. > Does this make sense to anyone? ... Did You ever try to run "sh Install" instead!? -- Matthias Morche (<A HREF="mailto:morche@sat1.de">mailto:morche@sat1.de</A>) SAT.1 (<A HREF="http://www.sat1.de"><A HREF="http://www.sat1.de</A">http://www.sat1.de</A</A>>) >>> Linux: the greatest adventure game since the invention of the PC <<< -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] new installation
by rknebel＠csrlink.net 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

Hi, I am a little new to linux. I have installed redhat a few times without problems. Got through the install process without too much problems with suse and even have x windows working. I would like to use the copy of Accelerated X version 4.0 that I have though. I keep running into this problem though. I mount the cdrom and go to the correct directory , but when I try to type ./Install like I have done on previous installs I get the mesaage bash:permission denied. I tried to do the install on another computer with redhat running and everything worked fine. Does this make sense to anyone? Does anyone use AccelX 4.0 with Suse 5.1? Thanks Alot. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Accelerated-X
by bob100＠ibm.net 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

I'd appreciate very much hearing from people who run Accelerated-X. The reason I'm interested in it is that they support Matrox Millenium II AGP boards. However, I downloaded their demo and was quite underwhelmed. Thanks! Bob ---------------------------------- E-Mail: bob gordon<bob100(a)ibm.net> Date: 20-Feb-98 Time: 01:22:13 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Power management
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 10:11:43PM -0500, jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote: > > > On 18-Feb-98 jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote: > > > I rebooted to Wingdings 95 to play a game, and after a brief absence, found > > out it had suspended the machine! It powered down the monitor, flashing the > > power light and everything! > > > > Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't happen in Linux. :( I have APM > > support compiled in, what else do I need to do? > > Apologies; I spoke a >bit< too soon. I powered up to Linux the other day and > got distracted again (yes, it happens often) and when I came back, the monitor > was off (standby). Ah, HA; so the score stands as follows: > > OS Power saving > -------------- ------------- > Wingdings95: Motherboard, Monitor, (Hard drive?) > Linux console: Monitor > Linux X: Nothing > > (hmm... could it be cron keeping the drive and MB busy? Yup.) > > What about the monitor in X? Is there something keeping it from relaxing? > > Thanks for letting me talk to myself internationally... :) My monitor at work will power down under X, but my monitor at home will not; although it used to. There is a option setting in the XF86Config that will turn on the power saving features of you monitor. I believe it is. . . Option "power_saver" Under the Device section. If this does not work then maybe something in your monitor blew up. That is what happened to mine :( -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vmarketing.com ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Power management
by maylward＠sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote: > > On 18-Feb-98 jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote: > > > I rebooted to Wingdings 95 to play a game, and after a brief absence, found > > out it had suspended the machine! It powered down the monitor, flashing the > > power light and everything! > > > > Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't happen in Linux. :( I have APM > > support compiled in, what else do I need to do? > > Apologies; I spoke a >bit< too soon. I powered up to Linux the other day and > got distracted again (yes, it happens often) and when I came back, the monitor > was off (standby). Ah, HA; so the score stands as follows: > > OS Power saving > -------------- ------------- > Wingdings95: Motherboard, Monitor, (Hard drive?) > Linux console: Monitor > Linux X: Nothing > > (hmm... could it be cron keeping the drive and MB busy? Yup.) > > What about the monitor in X? Is there something keeping it from relaxing? > > Thanks for letting me talk to myself internationally... :) > > --- > jonathan(a)aracnet.net > > "Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." > -- "Ali Baba Bunny" [1957, Chuck Jones] > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Johnathon, If you want full power management in linux, as in M$ Windogs, next time you build a kernel have a look at the power management options - they are all there if your hardware supports it, all you have to do is answer the questions and they are compiled into the kernel for you. Have fun, Matt -- Matt Aylward Dept of Geography (GIS) email: maylward(a)sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au Linux Lover and GIS Geek ..............LINUX..................... OS for the people by the people -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Attn: Newbies - Linux Information Web Site!
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

On 18-Feb-98 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > For those of you who know about the Linux Gazette, this is not for > you. For those newbies that have a thirst for more information, read > on. I found LG about issue #9, you're right, phenomenal resource. It can turn in to a mini newsgroup itself, with all of those letters, but there are many good tidbits in there. Might I add that I found out about SuSE from the Linux Gazette page? I never would have heard about it otherwise. Now I have at least two friends running it. There are columns for new users, a large chunk for graphic artists, scripts, "2 cent tips" and a whole lot of great ideas! --- jonathan(a)aracnet.net Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Power management
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 20 Feb '98

20 Feb '98

On 18-Feb-98 jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote: > I rebooted to Wingdings 95 to play a game, and after a brief absence, found > out it had suspended the machine! It powered down the monitor, flashing the > power light and everything! > > Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't happen in Linux. :( I have APM > support compiled in, what else do I need to do? Apologies; I spoke a >bit< too soon. I powered up to Linux the other day and got distracted again (yes, it happens often) and when I came back, the monitor was off (standby). Ah, HA; so the score stands as follows: OS Power saving -------------- ------------- Wingdings95: Motherboard, Monitor, (Hard drive?) Linux console: Monitor Linux X: Nothing (hmm... could it be cron keeping the drive and MB busy? Yup.) What about the monitor in X? Is there something keeping it from relaxing? Thanks for letting me talk to myself internationally... :) --- jonathan(a)aracnet.net "Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." -- "Ali Baba Bunny" [1957, Chuck Jones] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install: After The First CD
by netd＠fastrans.net 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Bodo Bauer wrote: > Hi Tom, > > thanks for your great posting! > I agree with you in the most of your topics. The only one I can hold > against ist the 'kernel selection'. There is a reference page when you > press F1. DOH! Sorry about that - will look for it next time then ... > And (I think) at 5.2 we will use the information the user gave to YaST > while installing the system to choose a 'default' image. I will forward > your mail to our YaST develpment team. And we will see what we can do. A > YaST redisign is already on it's way and we hope we can make things more > easy in the future... Excellent! -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install: After The First CD
by bb＠suse.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Hi Tom, thanks for your great posting! Tom Schaefer wrote: > > [...} > > Perhaps you can streamline and background the whole thing, so that it's > more transparent to the user. For example, even if they have rebooted, > you guys run that "Probably Yast has to configure some things ..." > message. PROBABLY? Aren't you sure? (Again- bad English) :-) I would > run it in background - a simple "Yast is finishing the unpacking of man > pages" (or what ever it's doing) and then let the system continue to > boot up without incindent or need for user intervention. You can do all > that shit as a background process with very little fanfare. > > Sorry for being a big pain in the ass with all this, but I believe this > is better to be specific than just whining! :) I agree with you in the most of your topics. The only one I can hold against ist the 'kernel selection'. There is a reference page when you press F1. And (I think) at 5.2 we will use the information the user gave to YaST while installing the system to choose a 'default' image. I will forward your mail to our YaST develpment team. And we will see what we can do. A YaST redisign is already on it's way and we hope we can make things more easy in the future... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: [SuSE] Re: Still a problem with aic7xxx
by netd＠fastrans.net 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Hubert Mantel wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 19 Feb 1998 gecko(a)freecar.com wrote: > > > On 19-Feb-98 Steven Udell wrote: > > >-==>aic7xxx problem again, still haven't fixed my problem<==- > > >... > > >Help! > > > > I wish I could but I'm still new at this. I *did* want to say that I'm using > > the aic7xxx driver, compiled directly in from the 2.0.33.suse kernal code and > > I'm not having a problem... Infact, my install CD was SCSI. > > I have the same situation - no probs with the aic7xxx driver. Here's the output from dmesg if it's helpful ... Configuring Adaptec (SCSI-ID 7) at IO:330, IRQ 11, DMA priority 5 aic7xxx: <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter> at PCI 17 aic7xxx: Warning - detected auto-termination. Please verify driver detected settings and use manual termination if necessary. aic7xxx: BIOS enabled, IO Port 0x6000, IO Mem 0xe0800000, IRQ 15, Revision B aic7xxx: Single Channel, SCSI ID 7, 16/16 SCBs, QFull 16, QMask 0x1f scsi0 : Adaptec 1542 scsi1 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 4.1.1/3.2.1 scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: TEAC Model: CD-ROM CD-56S Rev: 1.0B Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 scsi1: Scanning channel A for devices. Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST32430N Rev: 0494 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST15230N Rev: 0168 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 2 SCSI disks total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 4194303 [2047 MB] [2.0 GB] SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8386733 [4095 MB] [4.1 GB] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install: After The First CD
by netd＠fastrans.net 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > If you want an easier installation, I suggest Red Hat 5.0. > It allows for "kickstart" installation, making the installation of > similar configurations (ideal for networks) faster and more efficient. > Thanks but no-thanks. Bob Young and gang are a great group of people, and RedHat has contributed MUCH to the Linux community at large, so I'm not knocking them, but their distribution has its own set of problems. I prefer to stay with a particular distribution and become as familiar with it as possible. My whole approach to Linux is not to learn the academics, I prefer a business approach. That means I am less concerned about kernel intracacies than I am about building servers and workstations. I want my customers and those I work for to be able to realize the power and economy that Linux brings to the table. POWER + ECONOMY - that is Linux in a nutshell! SuSE excells at both server and workstation builds, and my previous comments were intended more for the SuSE team than anyone else, and perhaps my comments, as found in the archives, will help a newbie get thru the process - as it exists today. The folks at SuSE are extremely responsive to the forum here, and we will see many of the suggestions and improvements people are making here in future releases. In this forum, we're not speaking to a wall here as is the case with Microsloth, Novell, Informix, IBM and others. As Michael J. Fox said in "Back to the Future": "Stay with me on the changes ..." Incidently, I saw Jon "maddog" Hall this past Monday night at a Linux user group meeting here in South Florida. Jon is the guy who made the DEC Alpha port happen. (See the Linux Journal's archives for more info on the DEC Alpha & Linux port) Jon has become a real "Linux Evangelist" now, and has a great presentation about overcoming the classic objections people make about using Linux. I'll post a link to his slides once he puts them on the web - which should be this week or the next. My previous comment about FVWM95 is actually a quote of what Jon made directly to RedHat. In a nutshell, his thinking is that distributors of Linux need to make Linux "appear" on the desktop as much like Microsloth's stuff, because that's the current market orientation of some 200 million Win95/NT/etc users and MIS professionals. While I respect the use of other window managers - and SuSE includes the most of them "right out of the box" - Win95/NTis what the unwashed masses are training for and using. The more comfort you bring to the environment, the more people will say "Hey, not bad - and it's just like Windows 95 - and gosh, the licensing is free ... hey - our organization could roll this out and save a ton of money!" POWER + ECONOMY! Not to mention scalability, openness etc. They're used to the Start Menu concept, brain dead installs and they want dialup connectivity that is simple to configure. Large organizations are sick of the configuration management issues, the lockups and the piss-poor support from Microsoft and the others. They are sick of being clobbered with gouge rates on licensing. The next 18 months is THE WINDOW of opportunity for Linux. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install: After The First CD
by netd＠fastrans.net 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Connie Neal wrote: > >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Schaefer <netd(a)fastrans.net> writes: > [snip] > Tom> One of the things you guys need to be aware of is that there > Tom> are some 200 million Microsloth PCs out there, vs 8 - > Tom> 20million Linux/Unix systems. The more you can streamline the > Tom> install process and refer to things the way people are used > Tom> to in Microsloth-land, the more acdeptable your distribution > Tom> will be. > [snip] > > Tom, I completely disagree, here. My big gripe with all the linux > manuals, books, etc. is that everything is presented in terms of > DOS and ms-windows. I have never used dos or ms-windows. You are a minority then Connie - no offense ... and even better, you haven't been "conatminated" :) > I haven't a clue what is being made so much clearer by these > references. > Linux should stand alone as the great operating system it is. Agree - but in terms of broader acceptance, please be aware that all the unwashed masses know is "Windows 95" thanks to the excellent marketing machine at Microsoft. Ask a non-computer person what computers run now and all they know is "Windows". > The instructions would be clearer and more concise if the > comparisons were left out, or put in a separate section (linux > for former ms users). > "When we get to The Promised Land ..." :) > The rest of your post was excellant. > Thanks for posting it. > > Connie Neal Thanks -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install: After The First CD
by cin＠io.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Schaefer <netd(a)fastrans.net> writes: [snip] Tom> One of the things you guys need to be aware of is that there Tom> are some 200 million Microsloth PCs out there, vs 8 - Tom> 20million Linux/Unix systems. The more you can streamline the Tom> install process and refer to things the way people are used Tom> to in Microsloth-land, the more acdeptable your distribution Tom> will be. [snip] Tom, I completely disagree, here. My big gripe with all the linux manuals, books, etc. is that everything is presented in terms of DOS and ms-windows. I have never used dos or ms-windows. I haven't a clue what is being made so much clearer by these references. Linux should stand alone as the great operating system it is. The instructions would be clearer and more concise if the comparisons were left out, or put in a separate section (linux for former ms users). The rest of your post was excellant. Thanks for posting it. Connie Neal -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: [SuSE] Re: Still a problem with aic7xxx
by mantel＠suse.de 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Hi, On Thu, 19 Feb 1998 gecko(a)freecar.com wrote: > On 19-Feb-98 Steven Udell wrote: > >-==>aic7xxx problem again, still haven't fixed my problem<==- > >... > >Help! > > I wish I could but I'm still new at this. I *did* want to say that I'm using > the aic7xxx driver, compiled directly in from the 2.0.33.suse kernal code and > I'm not having a problem... Infact, my install CD was SCSI. > > I know that's not a big help, but it might give you added hope that the aic7xxx > driver DOES work... Yes, we have about two dozen of machines running with this driver rock solid... Doug Ledford has just released version 5.0.7 of his driver. In some hours you can find on ftp.suse.com: /pub/suse_update/kernel/linux-2.0.33-suse.tgz full kernel source tree /pub/suse_update/kernel/suse-2.0.33.gz patch against stock 2.0.33 /pub/suse_update/suse51/disks/eide01 standard bootdisk (aic7xxx as module) /pub/suse_update/suse51/disks/scsi01 aic7xxx compiled in Maybe you could give it a try... Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: [SuSE] Re: Still a problem with aic7xxx
by mantel＠suse.de 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Hi, On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Steven Udell wrote: > Hello again world, [SuSE] > > -==>aic7xxx problem again, still haven't fixed my problem<==- [...] > Guys {SuSE} I am still having problems with this damn SCSI card, > I have already said that the SuSE 5.1 Distro boot disk WILL load the > SCSI fine and I am able to use everything fine. But under a normal LILO > boot it will not, even with the no_reset append line or the kernel having > direct load of aic7xxx or loading aic7xxx as a module, all temination is fine > > from what I can see. If the distros boot disk can load it, why cant the > normal > system. I have no explanation for this behaviour. Maybe it's a timing issue. The kernel on the bootdisk is compiled for 386, you probably compiled the kernel for pentium. Maybe you could try this, but as you see, this is desperate experimenting... > Help! > Steven Udelhoffen Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: [SuSE] Re: Still a problem with aic7xxx
by gecko＠freecar.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

On 19-Feb-98 Steven Udell wrote: >-==>aic7xxx problem again, still haven't fixed my problem<==- >... >Help! I wish I could but I'm still new at this. I *did* want to say that I'm using the aic7xxx driver, compiled directly in from the 2.0.33.suse kernal code and I'm not having a problem... Infact, my install CD was SCSI. I know that's not a big help, but it might give you added hope that the aic7xxx driver DOES work... ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: [SuSE] Re: Still a problem with aic7xxx
by hettar＠teleport.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Hello again world, [SuSE] -==>aic7xxx problem again, still haven't fixed my problem<==- >What I really need you to do is to find out what is loading the aic7xxx >module in your kernel and stop it from doing so. Then, once you get the >system booted without the module, you should be able to try to manually >insmod the module and get me the logging information. The easiest way is to >do something like: >tail -f /proc/kmsg > /tmp/kernel.output _____________________ I have removed aic7xxx from loading from the kernel. This lets me do a 'normal' boot from lilo without a hitch. (this was a problem ;) It also shows that : <4>scsi : 0 hosts. <4> scsi : detected total. <4> partition check: Now I have tried several things in the last few days: 1) insmod the module aic7xxx a) this halted tty1 and there was no recovery from it. b) So I don't know how to get you the info you requested. 2) tail -f /proc/kmsg > /tmp/kernel.output a) this seamed not to work and just stagnated until ctrl x was pressed. 3) I have tried an append="aic7xxx =no_reset" in LILO with aic7xxx5.0.5 in kernel a) this did the exact same thing Time-out; trying harder loop. 4) When recompiling the kernel to change around some things, I set the scsi support to module and load with direct kernel support (two times) with under Low-level scsi support under the aic7xxx with a time-out of 10 instead of the normal '5' a) is this a good place to check this? i could try up to a 20 in that area.should I try it? I got a response from the SuSE guys, and they said They have indeed put the aic7xxx patches on a kernel of theirs called 2.0.33-suse . The lx-suse kernel So I did go get that tar ball and I did compile the source. It did indeed have the patched aic7xxx 5.0.5. But this also had the same (exact) problems I have had before. Except for not having a dead stop while searching for connected devices, it LOOPS now. Guys {SuSE} I am still having problems with this damn SCSI card, I have already said that the SuSE 5.1 Distro boot disk WILL load the SCSI fine and I am able to use everything fine. But under a normal LILO boot it will not, even with the no_reset append line or the kernel having direct load of aic7xxx or loading aic7xxx as a module, all temination is fine from what I can see. If the distros boot disk can load it, why cant the normal system. Help! Steven Udelhoffen sudell(a)teleport.com hettar(a)teleport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Loading Kernel Modules
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Subject: Loading Kernel Modules Date: Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 11:02:17AM -0500 In reply to:Wayne Topa Quoting Wayne Topa(wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com): > May I ask a general question. > > In which /sbin/init.d file do you load your kernel modules? > I am trying to load the ncr53c8xx module and have not yet found the > correct file to do it in. I have tried it in boot.local, boot.setup, > and boot without success. insmod ncr53c810 works fine from the command > line. Yes I have included the correct data in /etc/conf.modules. > > TIA > wayne Yes, I found the answer 5 minutes after I asked! Mistake 1: in boot or boot.setup or boot.local the path has not been set yet so use /sbin/insmod not just insmod! duh.... Mistake 2: If you put something into one of the init.d files, make sure that that file is called in the run level you are using. Very dumb mistake! boot.local is NOT called in any of the run levels! dah2........ Sorry to bother the list. > > -- > "As part of the conversion, computer specialists rewrote 1,500 > programs; a process that traditionally requires some debugging. > -- USA Today, referring to the IRS switchover to a new computer system. > _______________________________________________________ > Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- Basic, n.: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Loading Kernel Modules
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

May I ask a general question. In which /sbin/init.d file do you load your kernel modules? I am trying to load the ncr53c8xx module and have not yet found the correct file to do it in. I have tried it in boot.local, boot.setup, and boot without success. insmod ncr53c810 works fine from the command line. Yes I have included the correct data in /etc/conf.modules. TIA wayne -- "As part of the conversion, computer specialists rewrote 1,500 programs; a process that traditionally requires some debugging. -- USA Today, referring to the IRS switchover to a new computer system. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Install: After The First CD
by bennie＠xs4all.nl 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

If you want an easier installation, I suggest Red Hat 5.0. It allows for "kickstart" installation, making the installation of similar configurations (ideal for networks) faster and more efficient. B@N On Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:57:11 -0500 Tom Schaefer <netd(a)fastrans.net> wrote: > > We're de-Microsofting a few machines here ... and I'm getting much more > familiar with the install process. > > Now I know I'm being a big pain in the ass here, but I went through the > entire install and stopped to bug you along the way. > > One of the things you guys need to be aware of is that there are some > 200 million Microsloth PCs out there, vs 8 - 20million Linux/Unix > systems. The more you can streamline the install process and refer to > things the way people are used to in Microsloth-land, the more > acdeptable your distribution will be. I would suggest NOT defaulting to > FVWM2, rather FVWM95. I know many Unix power users prefer the FVWM > window manager, but you should have a screen in Yast that lets the user > pick one, but default to FVWM95, this is what "the unwashed masses" are > used to. > > Here are "a few" suggestions to streamline the install process. > > Let me preface my comments though with one thing I learned a long time > ago in Configuration Management Land - a job I did for our pitiful > US Postal Service rolling out Windoze 3.1 systems .... : > NEVER TAKE A USER TO A MENU UNLESS YOU WANT THEM TO MAKE CHOICES. > Thusly, if there really is no choice in a situation, then perform the > next step and get on with the install. > > 1. After the first CD has completed, you have the system sitting there > with a very small message in the lower left- hand corner of the screen > saying "INSTALLATION COMPLETE". This is erroneous because we all know > that we still have 2 CDs to go. Plus, you have the user sitting there > with a full menu of choices and no direction on where to go, not a good > idea. > > Make the message "INSTALLATION COMPLETE" go away and say something else, > like, "PHASE ONE COMPLETE". Now rather than expecting the user to know > what to do next, you should automatically pull the install forward to > the next step: SuSEconfig. I suppose you could put a status message and > a "Press enter to continue", but it's not really necessary. > > This is where a lot of people screw up. This is where I, back when I > was new to SuSE, would (erroneously) go to INSTALL PACKAGES because SuSE > skipped the 2nd and 3rd CDs, when I should have gone to Main Menu. > You've got it high-lited, but that's not good enough for tinkers. We see > that 2 and 3 didn't make it, so we're going to try and figure out why. > > 2. Since after the first CD, you want to run SuSEconfig, then why not > just run it? (Stop and prompt user only for errors) This can be pulled > to automatically, and also there should be no need to hit "Continue" at > the end of SuSEconfig either, unless some sort of error occurs. > > 3.Next, after Suseconfig, you've got me back to another Main Menu, and > no direction on where to go next. After having done a few SuSE > installs, I now know that I need to hit "Finish Installation" - so why > don't you just pull the user to the next step. By taking the user to a > menu with vague choices you are introducing yet-another-failure-point in > the install process. Newbie dies here too easily. > > 4.Next we are at "Select Kernel". You need a Help Screen here, because > the user needs a quick reference to how the kernels have ben gen'd. > Experienced users know what they want here, and a quick ref would be > nice. Newbies will die here also. In fact, a selection to review what > has been autoprobed would be nice at this point so I can get the right > kernel - perhaps Yast could make a "suggested kernel" based upon > autoprobing. > > 5. When you get to the choice of GMT or Local Time, perhaps you could > default to Local Time, since 99.90f PCs are set to local time in CMOS. > > Now - no other distribution has this, but would be nice is a field to > just enter "EST5CDT" or whatever time zone you want, rather than having > to wade through the list. (Just a small suggestion, we're not dying > here) > > 6. "Real Network" should be the default, not "Loopback".. > > 7.After DNS config, sendmail, you're running SuSEconfig again. Then we > have another "Installation Complete" message, further imprinting in my > mind that all the software has been loaded. Wrong. > > 8. Then we're back to the "Start Install" menu - and if we're running > this on a slow system, it takes acouple of seconds to get the "... the > new system will be started ..." message. You oughta just start it! > > > 9."Probably Yast has to configure some things" - PROBABLY? What do you > mean 'probably'? In English, this sounds like you're not really sure. > "Yast is running, stand by ..." would be a better message. > > 10. "Example User" - Perhaps you should refer to this as "Default User > Profile". This lines up with current 'market' i.e. Microsloth thinking. > > 11.Next, we have a "Confirmation" message telling me that 'during the > last session the following packages could not be installed'. > A better way to present this would be to say "We are now ready to finish > the software load. The following packages are from the 2nd and 3rd CDs, > which could not be mounted earlier in the install ...." > > 12.Then we get to a rather senseless screen about dependencies. Since > hitting "AUTO" does nothing, why not just run through the dependencies > automatically and get on with it! A small "Checking dependencies ... > please stand by ..." message would suffice. > Then, get me to the prompt for CD 2 , load software, then CD 3 ... blah > blah blah ... > > 13. At the end of CD 3, we have the "INSTALLATION COMPLETE" message > again, and no direction other than "TAB/ESC = Menu" . Newbie response: > "Well, what should I do?" Why not have it go directly to the next > screen "All installed packages are initialized..." instead of sitting at > the previous screen ... in fact, even better would be to just run > SuSEconfig and get on with it. > > (you're addressing this next item in the next release I think - but I'm > including this for reference) > > 14. After SuSEconfig, we're sitting at a login prompt. Newbie: "Now > what, should I login?" Probably not, (and because I, as an experienced > installer; now, knew to ALT-F9 to see what's up. Ah, SuSE is 'doing > something' ... (unpackingman pages, window manager configs). You need a > message after that last SuSEconfig to tell newbie what's going on again. > Newbie's not sure what the hell you guys are up to at this point, you've > had him hitting 'Continue' and un-intuitively GUESSING which menu > selections to hit - Newbie is exhausted and brain dead at this point. > Without knowing to hit ALT-F9 he's gonna screw something up again. > > Perhaps you can streamline and background the whole thing, so that it's > more transparent to the user. For example, even if they have rebooted, > you guys run that "Probably Yast has to configure some things ..." > message. PROBABLY? Aren't you sure? (Again- bad English) :-) I would > run it in background - a simple "Yast is finishing the unpacking of man > pages" (or what ever it's doing) and then let the system continue to > boot up without incindent or need for user intervention. You can do all > that shit as a background process with very little fanfare. > > Sorry for being a big pain in the ass with all this, but I believe this > is better to be specific than just whining! :) > > Again, you folks have the best distribution, and your support in this > list has been excellent. Kudos to you guys for responding > dispassionately to my whining and complaining (as well as the others!) . > > We all have high expectations for Linux, as well as SuSE, and we want to > see you succeed. > > Keep up the good work! > > -tks- > > > > > > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Install: After The First CD
by netd＠fastrans.net 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

We're de-Microsofting a few machines here ... and I'm getting much more familiar with the install process. Now I know I'm being a big pain in the ass here, but I went through the entire install and stopped to bug you along the way. One of the things you guys need to be aware of is that there are some 200 million Microsloth PCs out there, vs 8 - 20million Linux/Unix systems. The more you can streamline the install process and refer to things the way people are used to in Microsloth-land, the more acdeptable your distribution will be. I would suggest NOT defaulting to FVWM2, rather FVWM95. I know many Unix power users prefer the FVWM window manager, but you should have a screen in Yast that lets the user pick one, but default to FVWM95, this is what "the unwashed masses" are used to. Here are "a few" suggestions to streamline the install process. Let me preface my comments though with one thing I learned a long time ago in Configuration Management Land - a job I did for our pitiful US Postal Service rolling out Windoze 3.1 systems .... : NEVER TAKE A USER TO A MENU UNLESS YOU WANT THEM TO MAKE CHOICES. Thusly, if there really is no choice in a situation, then perform the next step and get on with the install. 1. After the first CD has completed, you have the system sitting there with a very small message in the lower left- hand corner of the screen saying "INSTALLATION COMPLETE". This is erroneous because we all know that we still have 2 CDs to go. Plus, you have the user sitting there with a full menu of choices and no direction on where to go, not a good idea. Make the message "INSTALLATION COMPLETE" go away and say something else, like, "PHASE ONE COMPLETE". Now rather than expecting the user to know what to do next, you should automatically pull the install forward to the next step: SuSEconfig. I suppose you could put a status message and a "Press enter to continue", but it's not really necessary. This is where a lot of people screw up. This is where I, back when I was new to SuSE, would (erroneously) go to INSTALL PACKAGES because SuSE skipped the 2nd and 3rd CDs, when I should have gone to Main Menu. You've got it high-lited, but that's not good enough for tinkers. We see that 2 and 3 didn't make it, so we're going to try and figure out why. 2. Since after the first CD, you want to run SuSEconfig, then why not just run it? (Stop and prompt user only for errors) This can be pulled to automatically, and also there should be no need to hit "Continue" at the end of SuSEconfig either, unless some sort of error occurs. 3.Next, after Suseconfig, you've got me back to another Main Menu, and no direction on where to go next. After having done a few SuSE installs, I now know that I need to hit "Finish Installation" - so why don't you just pull the user to the next step. By taking the user to a menu with vague choices you are introducing yet-another-failure-point in the install process. Newbie dies here too easily. 4.Next we are at "Select Kernel". You need a Help Screen here, because the user needs a quick reference to how the kernels have ben gen'd. Experienced users know what they want here, and a quick ref would be nice. Newbies will die here also. In fact, a selection to review what has been autoprobed would be nice at this point so I can get the right kernel - perhaps Yast could make a "suggested kernel" based upon autoprobing. 5. When you get to the choice of GMT or Local Time, perhaps you could default to Local Time, since 99.90f PCs are set to local time in CMOS. Now - no other distribution has this, but would be nice is a field to just enter "EST5CDT" or whatever time zone you want, rather than having to wade through the list. (Just a small suggestion, we're not dying here) 6. "Real Network" should be the default, not "Loopback".. 7.After DNS config, sendmail, you're running SuSEconfig again. Then we have another "Installation Complete" message, further imprinting in my mind that all the software has been loaded. Wrong. 8. Then we're back to the "Start Install" menu - and if we're running this on a slow system, it takes acouple of seconds to get the "... the new system will be started ..." message. You oughta just start it! 9."Probably Yast has to configure some things" - PROBABLY? What do you mean 'probably'? In English, this sounds like you're not really sure. "Yast is running, stand by ..." would be a better message. 10. "Example User" - Perhaps you should refer to this as "Default User Profile". This lines up with current 'market' i.e. Microsloth thinking. 11.Next, we have a "Confirmation" message telling me that 'during the last session the following packages could not be installed'. A better way to present this would be to say "We are now ready to finish the software load. The following packages are from the 2nd and 3rd CDs, which could not be mounted earlier in the install ...." 12.Then we get to a rather senseless screen about dependencies. Since hitting "AUTO" does nothing, why not just run through the dependencies automatically and get on with it! A small "Checking dependencies ... please stand by ..." message would suffice. Then, get me to the prompt for CD 2 , load software, then CD 3 ... blah blah blah ... 13. At the end of CD 3, we have the "INSTALLATION COMPLETE" message again, and no direction other than "TAB/ESC = Menu" . Newbie response: "Well, what should I do?" Why not have it go directly to the next screen "All installed packages are initialized..." instead of sitting at the previous screen ... in fact, even better would be to just run SuSEconfig and get on with it. (you're addressing this next item in the next release I think - but I'm including this for reference) 14. After SuSEconfig, we're sitting at a login prompt. Newbie: "Now what, should I login?" Probably not, (and because I, as an experienced installer; now, knew to ALT-F9 to see what's up. Ah, SuSE is 'doing something' ... (unpackingman pages, window manager configs). You need a message after that last SuSEconfig to tell newbie what's going on again. Newbie's not sure what the hell you guys are up to at this point, you've had him hitting 'Continue' and un-intuitively GUESSING which menu selections to hit - Newbie is exhausted and brain dead at this point. Without knowing to hit ALT-F9 he's gonna screw something up again. Perhaps you can streamline and background the whole thing, so that it's more transparent to the user. For example, even if they have rebooted, you guys run that "Probably Yast has to configure some things ..." message. PROBABLY? Aren't you sure? (Again- bad English) :-) I would run it in background - a simple "Yast is finishing the unpacking of man pages" (or what ever it's doing) and then let the system continue to boot up without incindent or need for user intervention. You can do all that shit as a background process with very little fanfare. Sorry for being a big pain in the ass with all this, but I believe this is better to be specific than just whining! :) Again, you folks have the best distribution, and your support in this list has been excellent. Kudos to you guys for responding dispassionately to my whining and complaining (as well as the others!) . We all have high expectations for Linux, as well as SuSE, and we want to see you succeed. Keep up the good work! -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Segmentation fault w/SuSE 5.1 & StarOffice 4.0
by deem＠wdm.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

The error is: deem@wdm:/home/deem/Office40/bin > ./soffice SalFontStruct::Load !XLoadQueryFont(-adobe-times-medium-r-normal--13-0-75-75-p-*-iso8859-1) SalFontStruct::Load !XLoadQueryFont(-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--15-0-75-75-p-*-iso8859-1) SalFontStruct::Load !XLoadQueryFont(-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--15-0-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1) Environment $XENVIRONMENT "" $DISPLAY ":0.0" $SAL_VISUAL "" $SAL_FONTPATH "/home/deem/Office40/fonts/type1:/home/deem/Office40/fonts/75dpi" $SAL_NOSEGV "" $SAL_IGNOREXERRORS "" $SAL_PROPERTIES "" $SAL_WM "" $SAL_SYNCHRONIZE "" $XPPATH "/home/deem/Office40/xp3" Client Host "wdm" Display Host ":0.0" Vendor (Release) "Xi Graphics (3100)" shift ctrl alt Shift_L (0xFFE1) Control_L (0xFFE3) Meta_L (0xFFE7) XMaxRequestSize 262140 4194300 [bytes] Screen Resolution/Size 75*75 1600*1200 26.7" Black&White 0 16777215 RGB 0xff0000 0xff00 0xff Visual 24-bit TrueColor ID=0x20 Images (Shared) 0x800001 (0) Segmentation fault Anyone else getting this after a good install ? Looks good for a few seconds and then dumps. Appreciate any help. -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] suse-linux/Discussion Group
by seamar＠singnet.com.sg 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

I actually enjoyed this few days of silence in the discussion group, it forces you to go to the books when you have a problem. We should never forget that we are here to work with Linux and with a specific Linux distribution which sells an excellent software cheap. Working with Linux, means to me, finding my own way to solve a problem and exhausting all available documentation , before I attempt to get somebodyelse to help me. Only when this is done, should we approach this discussion group and ask questions. Mario Jose Medjeral Singapore -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Newby questions
by mperry＠basin.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

I tend to use two graphical dialing programs instead of scripts here. They include xisp and ezppp. I compiled xisp on my SuSE 5.0 distribution and had a pretty easy time of it. ezppp works from the binary distribution. People have reported some problems with dropping the pppd; but I have some minor fixes that seem to help me at least. There are sample scripts also. --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Rick Knebel wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:52:28 -0800, Bodo Bauer wrote: > > > > >Rick Knebel wrote: > >> > >> I am a little new to linux and have acouple of questions about the suse distribution. > >> Does it come with a ppp configuration tool? > > > >Not yet, 5.2 will have PPP configuration integrated in our admin toll (YaST). > Thanks for your reply. > Do most people just make there own scripts then? > I did that with my first linux distribution I tried? > > > > >> Can you use redhat rpm's with it? > > > >Yes, our distribution is also packed with rpm. The pathes may be > >slighty different?! > > Is there an ftp site for suse like for redhat where you can find the latest programs in a > rpm format that is compatible with suse? > > > >> Is it based on glibc? > > > >No. We look forward to use libc with SuSE 6.0, which will be available > >as a DEC-Alpha version too! > > That good because redhat 5.0 is a big pain in the butt with there glibc. > Every time I tried to apply one of there fixes another problem developed. > I think they rushed it > > > > >Ciao, > > BB > > > >-- > >Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > >bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > ><A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Attn: Newbies - Linux Information Web Site!]
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Attn: Newbies - Linux Information Web Site!] Date: Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 07:47:47PM -0600 In reply to:jim seiberling Quoting jim seiberling(nwobone(a)hotmail.com): > > > Wayne: > I don't want to seem as rude or ungrateful, but I don't find > SuSE-Linux-e to be slow to respond to someone's problem. Jim Sorry Jim but I didn't say anything about the SuSE-Linux-e "mail-list", what I was refering to were the various NewsGroups that are loaded with answers but many of them are not correct. I have read many answers that would send newbies off the deep end. Correct answers sometimes take days to get posted. The information available on this list is not like that. My past post must have influenced your reading of my "Trying to be of help" post. ;-) The answers on this list are timely and correct, for the most part. wayne > I did, however, find that some other distribution mailing lists were a > tad slower, but nonetheless, very efficient. > I want to thank you for giving us this information about the gazette, > because there ARE times, when i want it NOW. heehee. So, knowing about > the journal will be of huge help in those times. > ttfn > > > -- Linux RULES, windoze Drools ;p~~ -- > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- "You can't make a program without broken egos." _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. Support Database
by bb＠suse.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

jim seiberling wrote: > > Wayne: > I don't want to seem as rude or ungrateful, but I don't find > SuSE-Linux-e to be slow to respond to someone's problem. > I did, however, find that some other distribution mailing lists were a > tad slower, but nonetheless, very efficient. > I want to thank you for giving us this information about the gazette, > because there ARE times, when i want it NOW. heehee. So, knowing about > the journal will be of huge help in those times. You can also try <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/</A">http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/</A</A>> which is our english SDB. We (Michael...) added lot's of uptodate articels in the last few weeks. It's worth a visit.... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Attn: Newbies - Linux Information Web
by nwobone＠hotmail.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Wayne: I don't want to seem as rude or ungrateful, but I don't find SuSE-Linux-e to be slow to respond to someone's problem. I did, however, find that some other distribution mailing lists were a tad slower, but nonetheless, very efficient. I want to thank you for giving us this information about the gazette, because there ARE times, when i want it NOW. heehee. So, knowing about the journal will be of huge help in those times. ttfn -- Linux RULES, windoze Drools ;p~~ -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Newby questions
by rknebel＠csrlink.net 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:52:28 -0800, Bodo Bauer wrote: > >Rick Knebel wrote: >> >> I am a little new to linux and have acouple of questions about the suse distribution. >> Does it come with a ppp configuration tool? > >Not yet, 5.2 will have PPP configuration integrated in our admin toll (YaST). Thanks for your reply. Do most people just make there own scripts then? I did that with my first linux distribution I tried? >> Can you use redhat rpm's with it? > >Yes, our distribution is also packed with rpm. The pathes may be >slighty different?! Is there an ftp site for suse like for redhat where you can find the latest programs in a rpm format that is compatible with suse? > >> Is it based on glibc? > >No. We look forward to use libc with SuSE 6.0, which will be available >as a DEC-Alpha version too! That good because redhat 5.0 is a big pain in the butt with there glibc. Every time I tried to apply one of there fixes another problem developed. I think they rushed it > >Ciao, > BB > >-- >Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 >bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 ><A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Newby questions
by bb＠suse.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

Rick Knebel wrote: > > I am a little new to linux and have acouple of questions about the suse distribution. > Does it come with a ppp configuration tool? Not yet, 5.2 will have PPP configuration integrated in our admin toll (YaST). > Can you use redhat rpm's with it? Yes, our distribution is also packed with rpm. The pathes may be slighty different?! > Is it based on glibc? No. We look forward to use libc with SuSE 6.0, which will be available as a DEC-Alpha version too! Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] List mail problem?
by rknebel＠csrlink.net 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:07:19 -0800, Bodo Bauer wrote: > >wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >> >> Question: How many messages have been put on this list today? >> I have received 3. One from Hubert, 1 from Bodo and 1 from zantera. >> Have I got a problem here too? > >No you don't. The list is OK... > >Ciao, > BB >-- >Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 >bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 ><A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > Hi, I am a little new to linux and have acouple of questions about the suse distribution. Does it come with a ppp configuration tool? Can you use redhat rpm's with it? Is it based on glibc? Thanks -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] List mail problem?
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

OK, thanks. Thought that you & Hubert were answering people nad I never saw their posts. Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] List mail problem? Date: Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 04:07:19PM -0800 In reply to:Bodo Bauer Quoting Bodo Bauer(bb(a)suse.com): > > > wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > > Question: How many messages have been put on this list today? > > I have received 3. One from Hubert, 1 from Bodo and 1 from zantera. > > Have I got a problem here too? > > No you don't. The list is OK... > > Ciao, > BB > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they never have to stop and answer the phone. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] List mail problem?
by bb＠suse.com 19 Feb '98

19 Feb '98

wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Question: How many messages have been put on this list today? > I have received 3. One from Hubert, 1 from Bodo and 1 from zantera. > Have I got a problem here too? No you don't. The list is OK... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] List mail problem?
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

Question: How many messages have been put on this list today? I have received 3. One from Hubert, 1 from Bodo and 1 from zantera. Have I got a problem here too? Wayne -- Linux - for those that deserve the Very Best! _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Default users under Suse??
by zentara＠mindspring.com 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

Hi, I was looking at the users that were set up as default under Suse. Who is Games and Knat, are they essential? I also noticed that they have no passwords set. Should I set passwords for all users who don't have a password? I tried to use Yast to remove Games, Empress, and Postgres. It asked me if I wanted to delete all files associated with these users, I dumbly said yes, and Yast stopped working afterwards. I had to do a quick reinstall. What is the deal with these users? Which ones are absolutely essential? And what are the security risks of not assigning a password to them? The O'reilly System's Administrator Guide dos'nt mention Games as a default installation user. I know this is a "packed question" so please at least tell me which ones Suse absolutely needs. Joe -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Are there any problems with the mailing List??
by bb＠suse.com 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

Hubert Mantel wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, David E. Edwards wrote: > > > I have not received any messages from the suse-linux-e(a)suse.com mailing list for > > 3 days, now. > > Is there anything wrong?? I have posted some messages and was hoping to get a re > > ply??. No messages since Friday 13th!! > > If this message gets through onto the mailing list, will someone please send me > > a personal reply just to let me know that things are okay!! > > As Bodo already said, we are in the process of switching to our office in > Oakland. So there are maybe some problems from time to time. > There is no problem with the list. Dave's address doesn't work. But this is nothing we can change, and its nothing to talk about on the list... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Attn: Newbies - Linux Information Web Site!]
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

For those of you who know about the Linux Gazette, this is not for you. For those newbies that have a thirst for more information, read on. There is a Linux magazine available on the net called "The Linux Gazette". I discovered this a couple of years ago and it made the transition to Linux a pleasure. It was started by a college student, John Fisk, as a way to share the information he was discovering as he migrated to Linux. John has since given up the job and it is now being maintained by SSC, the publisher of "The Linux Journal". The current issus is #23. In these 23 issues you will, IMHO find more good information, then you will get form a newsgroup in a year. Even now, I have the site as my Netscape "home site" and go there everytime I use Netscape. SSC has set up a search engine so that you may search on topics from anywhere on their site. Save a lot of time over posting to alist about a general Linux topic and then waiting hours/days for an answer. Give it a try, You will be glad you did. The site is www.linuxgazette.com (199.184.169.70). Hint: if you add the following line to /etc/hosts the connect will be faster. 199.184.169.70 www.linuxgazette.com lj and you only have to type lj to get there. When you figure out why, you are on your way out of the newbie ranks! NOTE: I have no connection to SSC or John Fisk. My only interest in SSC is I think their site is very usefull. I appreciate the effort that John put into this project and think he deserves cridit for it. Wayne -- Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. -- S. C. Johnson _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> ----- End forwarded message ----- -- One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they never have to stop and answer the phone. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2
by bennie＠xs4all.nl 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

According to me trying, installing Staroffice requires a "./setup" in the right directory. My installation script, however, is corrupt......Therefore I need an other one. B@N Frank Pawlak wrote: > On Feb 14, 3:49pm, Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > > Subject: Re[2]: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2 > > > > What about an installation script ? > > Sorry, your question doesn't parse. What installation script are you referring > to? > Frank > > > B@N > > > > On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:43:28 -0600 > > "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak(a)execpc.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 7:22am, Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] star-office 2 > > > > > > > > Benjamin van Ruyssevelt wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would like to start by thanking everybody for pointing me to places > > > > > where I could download Staroffice.. > > > > > > > > > > However, I have a corrupt installation script ("setup").. > > > > > I would appreciate it very much if someone could send me a working > > > script........ > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much in advance. > > > > > > > > I bought Caldera's Open Linux 1.1 back around June of '97 and they > included a > > > Star > > > > Office CD as part of the bundle. > > > > > > > > What a waste. You're better off spending a few dollars for Applixware or > Word > > > > Perfect. I cooould not get Star Office to install at all! I fiddled with > the > > > rpm's, > > > > fiddled with config files - it was pure hell. > > > > > > > > Star Office poses no threat to any of the other office suites or word > > > processors. > > > > There is no point in putting yourself through the agony. > > > > > > > > -tks- > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- End of excerpt from Tom Schaefer > > > > > > I would beg to differ with you on this. I also went the exact route > outlined > > > above and agree with it 100%. But, only as far as it goes. If I recall > > > correctly I did get StarOffice installed and running, however, I blew it > away > > > and went the Applix and WordPerfect Route. I did not like the appearance > of > > > documnets produced by Star Office 3.1. > > > > > > I managed to get version 4.0 downloaded last week and it is a differnet > > > ballgame than 3.1. Understand that I haven't had a lot of time to work > with > > > it, but it appears that they have made some big strides to improve the > suite. > > > There are still some things that I want to examine further before passing > > > judgement on it, but at this time it looks fairly good. > > > > > > As I see it today, it is a large and powerfull office suite, perhaps a > little > > > overwhelming at first. I have found the help files to be fairly complete > -- > > > at > > > least to get one comfortable with the interface and begin working. > > > > > > IMHO, this is a second or third generation product that has been improved a > > > lot, and the price for an individual user is right -- free. It is a mega > > > download -- almost 46M, but worth a look. > > > Cheers, > > > Frank > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >-- End of excerpt from Benjamin van Ruyssevelt > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Are there any problems with the mailing List??
by mantel＠suse.de 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

Hi, On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, David E. Edwards wrote: > I have not received any messages from the suse-linux-e(a)suse.com mailing list for > 3 days, now. > Is there anything wrong?? I have posted some messages and was hoping to get a re > ply??. No messages since Friday 13th!! > If this message gets through onto the mailing list, will someone please send me > a personal reply just to let me know that things are okay!! As Bodo already said, we are in the process of switching to our office in Oakland. So there are maybe some problems from time to time. Anyway, now it seems to work, again... > Thanks in Advance. > Dave E. Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Power management
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

I just realized something disturbing the other day... I have an Asus TXP4 motherboard with all of the power management goodies BIOS-enabled. I have been running Linux on it quite well for a while... I rebooted to Wingdings 95 to play a game, and after a brief absence, found out it had suspended the machine! It powered down the monitor, flashing the power light and everything! Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't happen in Linux. :( I have APM support compiled in, what else do I need to do? --- Jonathan Markevich <jonathan(a)aracnet.net> Disclaimer: "These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they be yours too." -- Dave Haynie -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Are there any problems with the mailing List??
by dedwards＠technologist.com 18 Feb '98

18 Feb '98

I have not received any messages from the suse-linux-e(a)suse.com mailing list for 3 days, now. Is there anything wrong?? I have posted some messages and was hoping to get a re ply??. No messages since Friday 13th!! If this message gets through onto the mailing list, will someone please send me a personal reply just to let me know that things are okay!! Thanks in Advance. Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: initial observations...
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote: > Maybe you unintentionally hit the ESC key? Nope, well I'll live with this, it's no big deal really. Thanks . -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: initial observations...
by mantel＠suse.de 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

Hi, On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote: > > > > 1) On one system I installed via NFS because there was no CDrom. The > > > install script asks for the IP address of my DNS, I don't know why because > > > it doesn't ask for any names, only IP address, but I supply it , however, > > > it doesn't ask for the IP address of the system which has the CD, > > > re-running the script THEN asks me for the IP of the system with CD and > > > everything is cool. This is not a big deal but just in case you didn't > > > know. > > > > I cannot reproduce this problem. Most of our installs are NFS installs, so > > we should be aware if there really is a bug somewhere... > > > Could the way I exported my CDrom have something to do with it? > > Export list for lac: > /cdrom 199.243.226.173 > > And the 199.243.226.173 does not have a DNS record associated with it. No, linuxrc should always ask for the IP address of the NFS server you want to install from... Maybe you unintentionally hit the ESC key? > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: initial observations...
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote: > > 1) On one system I installed via NFS because there was no CDrom. The > > install script asks for the IP address of my DNS, I don't know why because > > it doesn't ask for any names, only IP address, but I supply it , however, > > it doesn't ask for the IP address of the system which has the CD, > > re-running the script THEN asks me for the IP of the system with CD and > > everything is cool. This is not a big deal but just in case you didn't > > know. > > I cannot reproduce this problem. Most of our installs are NFS installs, so > we should be aware if there really is a bug somewhere... Could the way I exported my CDrom have something to do with it? Export list for lac: /cdrom 199.243.226.173 And the 199.243.226.173 does not have a DNS record associated with it. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] initial observations...
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Carlos Betancourt wrote: > include actual dir ( ./ ) so when you type configure bash won't find it. > You don't have to move configure, just type ./configure to tell bash to > look at your actual dir first. > It's not a S.u.S.E problemm. It's a sintaxis one. > Hope I've been helpful. Yes, thanks, I "thought" . was in my path, but I see now it isn't, and for good reason for root. Thanks again. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] XF86Config ... errno = 111
by esys05＠comm.mot.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

Hello All, I just upgraded my SUSE 4.4 to SUSE5.1, after the installation, I logout as root and login again as user. Login as user is no problem but when I try to get into windonmanager using "startx", I got this error message and the windowmanager never get started: _X11 TransSocket UNIXConnect: Can't connect: erno = 111 XView error: Cannot open connection to window server: :0(server package) Any suggestions to this error? Also, while I was trying to install SUSE5.1, I receive several warming about the disk partition useable memory drops below 5%. I have two hard disks for my Linux OS, a 425 MB (13.5ms seeking time) and 2.7GB (11 ms seeking time). I partition them into /, /var, /usr, /home, and /swap drives, is there a rule of thumb for the sizes of these partitions? Any help or comments is highly appreciated. Thanks. Ciao, Roger -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: BOOT/ROOT-rescue-floppy
by mantel＠suse.de 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

Hi, On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, j.maleike wrote: > I have found > > bootxx: Linux/i386 LILO boot/chain loader > root: PC formatted floppy with no filesystem > rescue: gzip compressed data, deflated Looks like an old system ;-) > Is it useful to create an own boot disk with the currently used kernel for > loading the root-disk into a RAM_DISK ? Yes, if there are kernel features you need which are not contained in the installation kernels. Maybe you want to download a bootdisk and the rescue disk from our ftp site. > /disks/README gives no instructions about the usage of the rescue-disk. Is > an experimental use of bootxx-disk, root-disk, rescue-disk `dangerous' for a > running system ? No, the rescue system is completely independant from the installed system. It runs completely in the ramdisk. > Thanks in advance. > > So long . . . . . . . . . . . > > Juergen Maleike fon: 0.2204.21569 Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Simple unix question
by stugreen＠bga.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

zentara wrote: > > Hi, > I know this is a SuSe setup message board, but > I have a simple little question. > > When I make changes to my .bashrc or .profile, > I have to logout and relogon to have the change put into effect. > > I remember reading their is a command you can > use to re-read the .bashrc file and put the changes into > effect without reloging on. If you're using bash - the command is 'source .bashrc' As /bin/sh is linked to /bin/bash nothing additional is needed. Regards, Stu -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Simple unix question
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Simple unix question Date: Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 10:34:43PM -0500 In reply to:zentara Quoting zentara(zentara(a)mindspring.com): > > > Hi, > I know this is a SuSe setup message board, but > I have a simple little question. > > When I make changes to my .bashrc or .profile, > I have to logout and relogon to have the change put into effect. > > I remember reading their is a command you can > use to re-read the .bashrc file and put the changes into > effect without reloging on. > > I just can't seem to find it now. > Can you inform me of the command? > source .bashrc or source .bash_profile > Thanks > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Just about every computer on the market today runs Unix, except the Mac (and nobody cares about it). -- Bill Joy 6/21/85 _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Simple unix question
by weekleyj＠fastrans.net 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

zentara wrote: > > Hi, > I know this is a SuSe setup message board, but > I have a simple little question. > > When I make changes to my .bashrc or .profile, > I have to logout and relogon to have the change put into effect. > > I remember reading their is a command you can > use to re-read the .bashrc file and put the changes into > effect without reloging on. > > I just can't seem to find it now. > Can you inform me of the command? > > Thanks > Try "source .bashrc" John -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ADABAS D mailing list information
by zentara＠mindspring.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

> Michael Perry wrote: > > > > Can someone email me the majordomo addresses for the available adabas D > > mailing lists? I am in need of some preliminary documentation on using I saw this on the usenet: There is a second Adabas-D Mailinglist - maintained by Justin Sher - ... <---------- snip - from : <A HREF="http://ndst.com/adabas/subscribe.html"><A HREF="http://ndst.com/adabas/subscribe.html</A">http://ndst.com/adabas/subscribe.html</A</A>> -------------> To subscribe to the list send mail to : Majordomo(a)listserv.ndst.com with the text: subscribe adabas-linux in the message. You will then receive a confirmation message to reply to. Once you have successfully joined the list you can send mail to the list by sending mail to adabas-linux(a)listserv.ndst.com . zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Simple unix question
by zentara＠mindspring.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

Hi, I know this is a SuSe setup message board, but I have a simple little question. When I make changes to my .bashrc or .profile, I have to logout and relogon to have the change put into effect. I remember reading their is a command you can use to re-read the .bashrc file and put the changes into effect without reloging on. I just can't seem to find it now. Can you inform me of the command? Thanks -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

** Reply to note from "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak(a)execpc.com> Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:32:45 -0600 I have found the XF86Setup to be rather unreliable on SuSE, Slackware, and Caldera. A couple friends of mine have found the same result. So I did the old xf86config reliable method. > > > On Feb 15, 8:47pm, adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree > > > > ** Reply to note from "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak(a)execpc.com> Sun, 15 Feb 1998 > 12:29:41 -0600 > > > > I'm using the SuSE Matrox SVGA Server, set up using xf86config. Hope that > helps. > > > > Thanks, > > Arlen > > Did you install these using YAST? Just checking to be sure that everything is > installed right. I would also suggest downloading the XF86Setup package from > suse and installing it using YAST, then try using it to get a stable X server > configured. > > I have the Millenium MGA card and this server and config script works well. > > Let me know how it works out for you. Hope that this helps. > Frank > > > > > > > > > > What server are you using and how are you setting it up? Need more info on > > > this to give you any suggestions. > > > cheers,frank > > > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 1:41pm, adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > > > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree > > > > > > > > I thought I had my 1024x768 modeline configured properly in my XF86Config > > > file. I had > > > > verified it using xvidtune and used X successfully several times over a > week > > > period. Then all > > > > of a sudden, this mode stopped displaying correctly. Now with each > session I > > > have re-xvidtune > > > > 1024x768 to get it to work (and apply the settings of course). Any > changes > > > to XF86Config to > > > > reflect a properly set 1024x768 don't seem to work. Everytime I startup > with > > > startx, I now > > > > anticipate using xvidtune over again. > > > > > > > > My modeline settings are (the problem one): > > > > > > > > 85 1024 1074 1204 1380 768 820 823 917 > > > > > > > > I am running a 4M Matrox Mystique 220 card w/ a KTX monitor that can > handle > > > 50-90 Hz vertical > > > > and 30 KHz-64 KHz horizontal. > > > > > > > > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Arlen Carlson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- End of excerpt from adcarlso(a)visinet.ca > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >-- End of excerpt from adcarlso(a)visinet.ca > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] permissions
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 17 Feb '98

17 Feb '98

I have been working on setting up a dial in server for my company to allow our customers to send data to us. With Bodo's suggestion (thanks bb) I was able to get my suse box to answer the phone. Now, how do I allow someone to dial in and transfer a file, without being able to navigate the file system?? Preferably, I would like to limit them to their home directory. Period. Thank you michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] [Fwd: Your ACDFunnies!!!]
by bone17＠midusa.net 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------610F3260A4EDCAB64FF9BDBF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All! Just read my email today, and thought i would share this with the group. Probably you all have already heard/read this, but it sure brightened my evening ;) Later jim seiberling -- Linux RULES, windoze Drools ;p~~ -- --------------610F3260A4EDCAB64FF9BDBF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <acdfun(a)acdsystems.com> Received: from norm.island.net (root(a)[199.60.19.4]) by mail.midusa.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15742 for <bone17(a)midusa.net>; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:54:13 -0600 (CST) From: acdfun(a)acdsystems.com Received: from acd.com.acd.com (acdnet.com [204.244.202.2] (may be forged)) by norm.island.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/island) with SMTP id JAA00311 for <bone17(a)midusa.net>; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:48:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199802161748.JAA00311(a)norm.island.net> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 09:48:06 -0800 Subject: Your ACDFunnies!!! To: bone17(a)midusa.net X-Mailer: <Mailcast, version 1.0> Ten Things That Would Be Different if Microsoft Started Building Cars. 1: A particular model of year of car wouldn't be available until after that year instead of before it. 2: Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new car. 3: Occasionally, your car would just die for no reason, and you'd have to restart it. For some strange reason, you'd just accept this. 4: You could only have one person in the car at a time, unless you bought a Car 95 or Car NT. But then you'd have to buy more seats. 5: Sun Motorsystems would make a car that was powered by the sun, was twice as reliable, and five times as fast - but it would only run on 5 percent of the roads. 6: The oil, engine, gas and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single "General Car Fault" warning light. 7: People would get excited about "new" features in Microsoft cars, forgetting completely that they had been available in other cars for years. 8: We'd all have to switch to Microsoft gas. 9: The U.S. government would be getting subsidies from an automaker, instead of giving them. 10: New seats would force everyone to have the same size butt. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Feel free to forward this to your friends. If you no longer wish to receive ACDFunnies, send some e-mail to acdfun(a)acdsystems.com with unsubscribe in the subject line and your e mail address as the only thing in the main part (body) of the mail. If this was forwarded to you and you want to get on the list follow the above instructions, with subscribe in the subject line. Have fun and drop by World Headquarters once and a while... <A HREF="http://www.acdsystems.com"><A HREF="http://www.acdsystems.com</A">http://www.acdsystems.com</A</A>> --------------610F3260A4EDCAB64FF9BDBF-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Lockup problems with NVidia XSuSE server.
by bhart＠chesco.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

I have the exact same configuration, and problem. I only have two ISA slots and need them for my sound card and modem. I have a Intel 10/100 pro and the video card. How do I get them not to share an IRQ??? Dirk H. Hohndel wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Frankie wrote: > > fine. When I start X with the NVidia server configured to run, everything > > goes black and the machine is then > > locked for good until I reset it manually. > > Most likely you have another device share the same IRQ that the Riva card > is using. This causes the current driver to lock up. The reason is unknown > at this point. Once you convince the BIOS of your system not to share the > IRQ the server will work. > > Dirk > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off Date: Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 03:50:30PM -0500 Jim An update. SuSE does include the program netdate AND it has a man page included. That porgram is as good as rdate & has more options. Try both if you like, but rdate doesn't have a man pade and the included netdate does. HTH Wayne In reply to:wtopa@ix.netcom.com Quoting wtopa@ix.netcom.com(wtopa@ix.netcom.com): > > > > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off > Date: Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 08:42:27PM +0100 > > In reply to:Jim Hatridge > > Quoting Jim Hatridge(hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de): > > > > On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > > > Yep, that is what I do. 4 times an hour I have a cron job set up in > > > wtopa to connect to the net, set the computer time ( this is > > > overkill!), get any new mail (while deleteing mail I got the last > > > > > > Hi All!,, > > > > > > First of all, I've got ppp working under my user name now. And I want to > > gave a BIG thanks everyone who gave me hints on what to do. > > > Glad you got it to work!! > > Now, how did you set your computer's time from the net? My computer loses > > about 5-10 minutes per day. In fact, it seems that it got worst since I > > put Linux on and stopped using M$. > > > Jim I can be of partial help. I tried a few methods and settled on > theis one. Go out on the net (sunsite) and look for a program called > rdate. Then, (and here is where I can't help) you have to find a time > server close to you. I forget what docs I finally found that had this > info, sorry. Anyway do 'rdate -s time.server.domain' and your clock > is set. I use a server in Vermont (I'm in New York) and find the time > is within 1 second all the time. > To save you some time, I will attach the rdate tar.gz file for you on a > direct post. I didn't find it in the SuSE CD's. > > wayne > > > > > > JIM > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > James Hatridge > > Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" > > German Stamps > > >From Germany About Germany In English! > > email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de > > > > > > > > > > . > > -- > Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are > so long they can't afford the disk space. > _______________________________________________________ > Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > . -- Flon's Law: There is not now, and never will be, a language in which it is the least bit difficult to write bad programs. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by wtopa＠ix.netcom.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off Date: Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 08:42:27PM +0100 In reply to:Jim Hatridge Quoting Jim Hatridge(hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de): > > On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > Yep, that is what I do. 4 times an hour I have a cron job set up in > > wtopa to connect to the net, set the computer time ( this is > > overkill!), get any new mail (while deleteing mail I got the last > > > Hi All!,, > > > First of all, I've got ppp working under my user name now. And I want to > gave a BIG thanks everyone who gave me hints on what to do. > Glad you got it to work!! > Now, how did you set your computer's time from the net? My computer loses > about 5-10 minutes per day. In fact, it seems that it got worst since I > put Linux on and stopped using M$. > Jim I can be of partial help. I tried a few methods and settled on theis one. Go out on the net (sunsite) and look for a program called rdate. Then, (and here is where I can't help) you have to find a time server close to you. I forget what docs I finally found that had this info, sorry. Anyway do 'rdate -s time.server.domain' and your clock is set. I use a server in Vermont (I'm in New York) and find the time is within 1 second all the time. To save you some time, I will attach the rdate tar.gz file for you on a direct post. I didn't find it in the SuSE CD's. wayne > > > JIM > > > ----------------------------------------- > James Hatridge > Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" > German Stamps > >From Germany About Germany In English! > email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de > > > > > . -- Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are so long they can't afford the disk space. _______________________________________________________ Wayne T. Topa <wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ADABAS D mailing list information
by lach＠lach.net 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Here is a list for the German impaired: adabas-linux(a)listserv.ndst.com Later Lach Bodo Bauer wrote: > Michael Perry wrote: > > > > Can someone email me the majordomo addresses for the available adabas D > > mailing lists? I am in need of some preliminary documentation on using > > ADABAS D 10 for linux. I did have a copy of a word for windows version 6 > > document but cannot now find it. I would like some kind of printed or ps > > formatted document on database creation, maintenance, admin, etc. A HOWTO > > would be quite nice. > > Primarily need the email addresses of any adabas d mailing lists and > > places to find written documentation. > > Thanks. > > > > Mail a message like > > subscribe suse-adabas > > to majordomo(a)suse.com, and you are on the list. THe list multilingual > but the most postings are currently in german... > > Ciao, > BB > > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ADABAS D mailing list information
by bb＠suse.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Michael Perry wrote: > > Can someone email me the majordomo addresses for the available adabas D > mailing lists? I am in need of some preliminary documentation on using > ADABAS D 10 for linux. I did have a copy of a word for windows version 6 > document but cannot now find it. I would like some kind of printed or ps > formatted document on database creation, maintenance, admin, etc. A HOWTO > would be quite nice. > Primarily need the email addresses of any adabas d mailing lists and > places to find written documentation. > Thanks. > Mail a message like ubscribe suse-adabas to majordomo(a)suse.com, and you are on the list. THe list multilingual but the most postings are currently in german... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Netscape/Communicator 4.04
by chris123＠netcom.ca 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Greetings: Sorry for the confusion. The site address for Netscape info is <A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu"><A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu</A">http://members.ping.at/theofilu</A</A>> and the help pages can be found at <A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/ninst.html"><A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/ninst.html</A">http://members.ping.at/theofilu/ninst.html</A</A>>. Aslo make sure you read the pages re: netscape patch as this needs to be installed for netscape/communicator to be running with out problems. Now concering ezppp, I installed it on friday night. Read the instructions carefully in the HowTo or wherever its called. There a little bit confusing at first (at least for me...read nubie) but can be done. Also once you have ezppp runnig go to configure and play around a bit. There is an entry field where you can type in the program to launch at ppp startup. default this your location of netscape and ezppp will launch the product on conection to the web. After aweekend of mucking about, I'm happy to say this email is now from my linux box as per programs installed above. No more need for MS.... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Netscape/Communicator 4.04
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Donn Washburn aka N5XWB wrote: > > Hey Group: > > First time using this list server. > > I have had problems getting Netcscape/Communicator 4.04PE to find the > pppd. > It appears that pppd is running as called up by ezppp. ezppp seems to > connect, login and startup ppp. At that point trying Netscape gets a > URL or DNS not found type of error. > > So I tried Frank Pawlaks suggested URL "www.members.ping.at on a > NON-Linux machine running Netscape and either I typed it wrong or it was > not found. > Based on his email it appears that that site may have some information > on the problem I and several other Austin, TX SuSE 5.1 users are > having. > > Thanks > Donn > n5xwb(a)inetport.com HI Donn; I've been working on EZPPP too. In it's howto, the author (I don't remeber his name) said to start Netscape first and then start Ezppp. It has something to do with Netscape not reading the DNS list that Ezppp sets up. JIM ----------------------------------------- James Hatridge Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" German Stamps From Germany About Germany In English! email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: staroffice
by gecko＠freecar.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Went the wrong way. DM20 is about $11 $50 is up around DM90+ On 16-Feb-98 zentara wrote: >I don't know what the exchange rate for DM/US dollars >is, but I think 20 DM is around the 50 US dollars >needed for OpenLinux ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: staroffice
by zentara＠mindspring.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Jim Hatridge wrote: > > Hi all! > > Like most of you'll I too would like to get staroffice 4. But with my > little 14,400 modem I figure that it will take about 15 hours to download. > That's just too long. Does anyone know where (or how) I could get a CD > with it? I would be willing to go to around 20DM for it. > > Thanks for your help! > Before I got SuSe, which is great, I bought Caldera OpenLinux1.1 which is good. OpenLinux 1.1 gives you a copy of StarOffice on it's own cd, for personal use. I don't know what the exchange rate for DM/US dollars is, but I think 20 DM is around the 50 US dollars needed for OpenLinux. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

On Feb 15, 8:47pm, adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree > > ** Reply to note from "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak(a)execpc.com> Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:29:41 -0600 > > I'm using the SuSE Matrox SVGA Server, set up using xf86config. Hope that helps. > > Thanks, > Arlen Did you install these using YAST? Just checking to be sure that everything is installed right. I would also suggest downloading the XF86Setup package from suse and installing it using YAST, then try using it to get a stable X server configured. I have the Millenium MGA card and this server and config script works well. Let me know how it works out for you. Hope that this helps. Frank > > > > > > What server are you using and how are you setting it up? Need more info on > > this to give you any suggestions. > > cheers,frank > > > > > > On Feb 14, 1:41pm, adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree > > > > > > I thought I had my 1024x768 modeline configured properly in my XF86Config > > file. I had > > > verified it using xvidtune and used X successfully several times over a week > > period. Then all > > > of a sudden, this mode stopped displaying correctly. Now with each session I > > have re-xvidtune > > > 1024x768 to get it to work (and apply the settings of course). Any changes > > to XF86Config to > > > reflect a properly set 1024x768 don't seem to work. Everytime I startup with > > startx, I now > > > anticipate using xvidtune over again. > > > > > > My modeline settings are (the problem one): > > > > > > 85 1024 1074 1204 1380 768 820 823 917 > > > > > > I am running a 4M Matrox Mystique 220 card w/ a KTX monitor that can handle > > 50-90 Hz vertical > > > and 30 KHz-64 KHz horizontal. > > > > > > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Arlen Carlson > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > >-- End of excerpt from adcarlso(a)visinet.ca > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from adcarlso(a)visinet.ca -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] initial observations...
by cbetan＠unet.ve 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

> 3) I tried to compile sniffit and I get "bash: configure: command not > found" To work around this I have to put in the complete path of the > configure script, even though my pwd is the dir where configure exists. > The same goes when I try to run the binary from this dir, so I put the > binary in a dir which is in my path, but why are things behaving this way? > Luis, did you try ./configure ? When you tipe a command, bash uses $PATH to find it. Usually PATH does not include actual dir ( ./ ) so when you type configure bash won't find it. You don't have to move configure, just type ./configure to tell bash to look at your actual dir first. It's not a S.u.S.E problemm. It's a sintaxis one. Hope I've been helpful. DON'T FEAR THE PENGUINS Carlos Betancourt CETI-UNET Venezuela -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: initial observations...
by mantel＠suse.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Hi, On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: > I've just installed suse ver 5.1 on a couple of machines and found some > things I'd like to bring to your attention. > > 1) On one system I installed via NFS because there was no CDrom. The > install script asks for the IP address of my DNS, I don't know why because > it doesn't ask for any names, only IP address, but I supply it , however, > it doesn't ask for the IP address of the system which has the CD, > re-running the script THEN asks me for the IP of the system with CD and > everything is cool. This is not a big deal but just in case you didn't > know. I cannot reproduce this problem. Most of our installs are NFS installs, so we should be aware if there really is a bug somewhere... > 2) man tar doesn't work on both my systems. "No manual entry for tar" > I wonder how many more don't work. Right, there is no man page for tar. The FSF has decided to switch over to info files, so I assume additional man pages will vanish in the future ;-( I personally do not like this decision because I like "man" a lot better than "info". > 3) I tried to compile sniffit and I get "bash: configure: command not > found" To work around this I have to put in the complete path of the > configure script, even though my pwd is the dir where configure exists. > The same goes when I try to run the binary from this dir, so I put the > binary in a dir which is in my path, but why are things behaving this way? For security reasons, root does not have "." in its path. Imagine some user creating a shell script /tmp/ls which just contains the command "rm -rf /" in it. On a single user home machine you might want to change this. You can accomplish this using YaST (goto "System administration" / "Security settings"). > 4) I thought I'd find the newer mach64 X server and config program on > release 5.1 but didn't, I downloaded them from your site again, but is it > on one of the CD's? The versions on our ftp site are more uptodate. > Let me say the .fvwm2 desktop is very nicely done. > > Coming from a slackware background this will take some time to get used to > but once I do, I think I will like how you guys have done things. > > I was wondering if someone is maintaining a web page which lists all the > typo's in the manual? There are a few which are not that obvious and will > throw someone off. Not yet. Most of our US internet connectivity is still under construction... > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] initial observations...
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

I've just installed suse ver 5.1 on a couple of machines and found some things I'd like to bring to your attention. 1) On one system I installed via NFS because there was no CDrom. The install script asks for the IP address of my DNS, I don't know why because it doesn't ask for any names, only IP address, but I supply it , however, it doesn't ask for the IP address of the system which has the CD, re-running the script THEN asks me for the IP of the system with CD and everything is cool. This is not a big deal but just in case you didn't know. 2) man tar doesn't work on both my systems. "No manual entry for tar" I wonder how many more don't work. 3) I tried to compile sniffit and I get "bash: configure: command not found" To work around this I have to put in the complete path of the configure script, even though my pwd is the dir where configure exists. The same goes when I try to run the binary from this dir, so I put the binary in a dir which is in my path, but why are things behaving this way? 4) I thought I'd find the newer mach64 X server and config program on release 5.1 but didn't, I downloaded them from your site again, but is it on one of the CD's? Let me say the .fvwm2 desktop is very nicely done. Coming from a slackware background this will take some time to get used to but once I do, I think I will like how you guys have done things. I was wondering if someone is maintaining a web page which lists all the typo's in the manual? There are a few which are not that obvious and will throw someone off. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Lockup problems with NVidia XSuSE server.
by hohndel＠suse.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Frankie wrote: > fine. When I start X with the NVidia server configured to run, everything > goes black and the machine is then > locked for good until I reset it manually. Most likely you have another device share the same IRQ that the Riva card is using. This causes the current driver to lock up. The reason is unknown at this point. Once you convince the BIOS of your system not to share the IRQ the server will work. Dirk -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Lockup problems with NVidia XSuSE server.
by fybanez＠cecnet.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Please help me with a major problem I've been having with the XSuSE NVidia Xserver. I've just downloaded it and tried it on a Dell with the AGP port of the STB Velocity 128 graphics card with 4 megs and have had absolutly no success with this server. I run the custom XF86Config program you make avail for download and it seems to write the config just fine. When I start X with the NVidia server configured to run, everything goes black and the machine is then locked for good until I reset it manually. This is not a good thing, I have seen something extremely similar to this with the Stealth 3D Xservers from the X-consortium, but that was solve with a "nomem_access" option or something very similar to that, in the Device section. Please reply with some advice at your earliest convience. BTW, if this really works, I want to thank the guys at SuSE for such a great X server. And I will probably be using SuSE LiNuX for our servers here at work instead of FreeBSD. Thanks again in advance for any help regarding this matter. "Calm down. It's only \\|// ones and zeros." \\|// (@ @) -- Sam Kass -- (@ @) +~~~~~~ooO~~(_)~~Ooo~~~~~~~~~~+~~~~~~~ooO~~(_)~~Ooo~~~~~~~~~~+ | Frankie R. Ybanez | Chandler, Ehrlich, & Company | | Systems Administrator | Assoc. of Hill & Knowlton | | Phone: 901-761-5748 ext 337 | Fax: 901-345-9992 | | Ridgeway Center | Email: fybanez(a)cecnet.com | | 855 Ridge Lake Blvd STE 300 | <A HREF="http://www.CECNet.com"><A HREF="http://www.CECNet.com</A">http://www.CECNet.com</A</A>> | | Memphis, TN 38120 | <A HREF="http://www.searchmemphis.com"><A HREF="http://www.searchmemphis.com</A">http://www.searchmemphis.com</A</A>> | +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] BOOT/ROOT-rescue-floppy
by maleike＠maleike.gl.eunet.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote: Hi, > On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, j.maleike wrote: > > I would like to load a root-filesystem with rescue utilities from a > > LILO-Boot floppy into a RAM-Disk. > S.u.S.E. Linux provides you with a rescue disk (just write /disks/rescue > from CD#1 to a disk). You can use any of our boot disks to load this > rescue system. I have found bootxx: Linux/i386 LILO boot/chain loader root: PC formatted floppy with no filesystem rescue: gzip compressed data, deflated Is it useful to create an own boot disk with the currently used kernel for loading the root-disk into a RAM_DISK ? /disks/README gives no instructions about the usage of the rescue-disk. Is an experimental use of bootxx-disk, root-disk, rescue-disk `dangerous' for a running system ? Thanks in advance. So long . . . . . . . . . . . Juergen Maleike fon: 0.2204.21569 Wingertsheide 9 fax: 0.2204.25018 D-51427 Bergisch Gladbach mailto: maleike(a)maleike.gl.eunet.de ......... . . . . . . . . . . -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

On 16-Feb-98 Bodo Bauer wrote: > Ted Harding wrote: >> I think it makes just as much sense to write to /dev/zero as to /dev/null. >> The differences > > I don't think so. /dev/null is for writing and /dev/zero for > reading of useless data. > > >> is in reading. If setting idiosyncratic permissions is likely to cause >> several >> programs to misbehave, then please leave them as 666! > > But anyway, may be you are right and we should turn the > permissions to 666. I don't think it's a security hole to > have it writable for everyone. > > Ciao, > BB I've now had a look at some UNIX and Linux systems around here. SunOS has 666 on /dev/zero; an older Red HAT, a current Debian, and a current FreeBSD all also have 666. So far, S.u.S.E is the only exception! However, the keeper of the local Debian (Owen Leblanc of fame) was emphatic that 666 is not a good idea for /dev/zero since "writing to /dev/zero is not defined in the standards and so it doesn't make sense" (though I have yet to check POSIX or Linux FSSTND). On that basis his view also was that WABI is doing the wrong thing. In the case of undefined effect, writing to /dev/zero *could* have unpredictable results; but presumably a system that allows 666 (e.g. SunOS) would have made provision so that this did not cause trouble. Linux too? Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 16-Feb-98 Time: 11:40:03 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: aic7xxx problems with Adaptec UW-2940 card
by mantel＠suse.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Hi, On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Steven Udell wrote: > I recently bought an 'Ultra Wide Adaptec 2940'. > Useing aic7xxx4.1.1 that came with SuSE 5.1, (normal lilo bootup) it > fails with: > scsi devices : 1 device > scsi: Scanning channel A for devices > scsi:aborting command due to time out: pid 0 scsi 0 channel 0 id 0 lun > 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 > scsi host 0 abort(pid0) timedout-resetting > scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 > "" "" a few more times with like .......trying harder.... > scsi host > probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang. > > Now whats up with that? When: > 1)a SuSE Distro boot disk (its the only way I can use my scsi devices) > a) will load kernel module aic7xxx and dectect everything just > fine. > 2)a normal lilo boot of my kernel, will lock up or loop the aic7xxx driver > when it is > kernel uncompressing. > 3) I now have removed aic7xxx from direct kernel support and am attempting > to load it > as just a module (when I need it) but here agian it is not working, as > like the SuSE > distro boot disk will. > > ***Someone said to use the lx-linux? Eh that was the kernel I was useing > and > that does not work either. Now I have just a basic out-of-the-box 2.0.33 > kernel > with aic7xxx updated patches applyed > > What would be the (sigh) difference of the SuSE distros boot disk > aic7xxx kernel support than the kernel that SuSE loaded up for me?? When I > picked > aic7xxx to be installed........ The only difference is that on the bootdisk the driver is a module. So the installed kernel should work... > Now I have been for the past few days talking with Doug Ledford > (dledford(a)dialnet.net) > He suggested a few things, including getting patches to the aic7xxx > module > for 2.0.33kernel. > at ftp.dialnet.net -the current version of aic7xxx is 5.0.5 and SuSE5.1 > came with 4.1.1/3.2.1 > These patches DO NOT apply cleanly to 2.0.33(pre33SuSE.3) (or something) Yes, because lx-suse already contains a newer aic7xxx driver than the standard kernel. > but do apply cleanly to 2.0.33 out-of-the-box kernel. put the 5.0.0 > patch > on then the 5.0.0 to 5.0.1 and so on or just 5.0.5patch.gz Try the following: ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse_update/suse51/disks/scsi01 contains a kernel with the newest aic7xxx driver (5.0.5) compiled in. ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse_update/kernel/linux-2.0.33-suse.tgz contains the complete source code with updated drivers (besides the newest aic7xxx there are newer versions for ncr53c8xx, advansys, BusLogic, Tekram and several network drivers). ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse_update/kernel/suse-2.0.33.gz is a patch against the official 2.0.33, if you do not want to download the complete tarball. > Well all of this didn't work either. > I need to know if there is more info that what I have to correct this. > things are that everything > 1) works fine and detects when booting from SuSE distros boot disk (I > hope > Idont loose this)!! You can always create a new one from /disks/eide01 from CD#1. Even under DOS ;-) It sounds like a timing problem to me... > 2)windows(ick)95 detects everything and works > 3) so I don't think it is a termination problem Do you get any termination warnings when the aic7xxx driver initializes? > 4) and I dunno > > Steven Udelhoffen > hettar(a)teleport.com Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by mantel＠suse.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Hi, On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, zentara wrote: > This isn't a big problem, but I want to know > what is happening? > > When I installed Wabi on SuSE, it requires > me to chmod 666 on /dev/zero; in order for it to > run. > > That's fine. > > What's unusual is whenever I start Yast, and do > some system change, and Suse config starts > when I exit; the mod on /dev/zero gets > reset. It's no problem to do the chmod > again, but why does SuSe config do this. > Is it part of security? Yes, I consider the behaviour of WABI a bug. If you want to change the permissions of /dev/zero permanently make sure you set it in /etc/permissions or set CHECK_PERMISSIONS=warn (instead of "set") in /etc/rc.config. Even better, use /etc/permissions.local to set your "local" permissions if they differ from the standard. Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] aic7xxx problems with Adaptec UW-2940 card
by hettar＠teleport.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Hello World, [SuSE] -=( this was posted before but is not resolved, please help out)- I recently bought an 'Ultra Wide Adaptec 2940'. Useing aic7xxx4.1.1 that came with SuSE 5.1, (normal lilo bootup) it fails with: scsi devices : 1 device scsi: Scanning channel A for devices scsi:aborting command due to time out: pid 0 scsi 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 scsi host 0 abort(pid0) timedout-resetting scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 "" "" a few more times with like .......trying harder.... scsi host probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang. Now whats up with that? When: 1)a SuSE Distro boot disk (its the only way I can use my scsi devices) a) will load kernel module aic7xxx and dectect everything just fine. 2)a normal lilo boot of my kernel, will lock up or loop the aic7xxx driver when it is kernel uncompressing. 3) I now have removed aic7xxx from direct kernel support and am attempting to load it as just a module (when I need it) but here agian it is not working, as like the SuSE distro boot disk will. ***Someone said to use the lx-linux? Eh that was the kernel I was useing and that does not work either. Now I have just a basic out-of-the-box 2.0.33 kernel with aic7xxx updated patches applyed What would be the (sigh) difference of the SuSE distros boot disk aic7xxx kernel support than the kernel that SuSE loaded up for me?? When I picked aic7xxx to be installed........ Now I have been for the past few days talking with Doug Ledford (dledford(a)dialnet.net) He suggested a few things, including getting patches to the aic7xxx module for 2.0.33kernel. at ftp.dialnet.net -the current version of aic7xxx is 5.0.5 and SuSE5.1 came with 4.1.1/3.2.1 These patches DO NOT apply cleanly to 2.0.33(pre33SuSE.3) (or something) but do apply cleanly to 2.0.33 out-of-the-box kernel. put the 5.0.0 patch on then the 5.0.0 to 5.0.1 and so on or just 5.0.5patch.gz Well all of this didn't work either. I need to know if there is more info that what I have to correct this. things are that everything 1) works fine and detects when booting from SuSE distros boot disk (I hope Idont loose this)!! 2)windows(ick)95 detects everything and works 3) so I don't think it is a termination problem 4) and I dunno Steven Udelhoffen hettar(a)teleport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Xlib Message
by seamar＠singnet.com.sg 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

On my Laptop Siemens 710 I seem to have a problem when I'm connected to my internet service provider. Once the connection is established and I call up an application (arena or xftp) the following msg appears on my xterm: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x5a28)! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anybody has an idea what is wrong? Thanks Mario Jose Medjeral seamar(a)singnet.com.sg Singapore -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] getty/mgetty/agetty .....
by bb＠suse.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Michael Clark wrote: > > Hello all > > I would like to set up my linux box at work to replace our current > win95 box. In order to do this I need the following: > > How do I tell it to answer the phone? > How do I set up vt100 emulation when answering the phone? > Can I give the modem logins a separate welcome screen? > How do I set up zmodem file transfers? > > I have been reading documentation, but very little is said about letting > someone call in through my modem. I can probably figure the rest out if > it would answer the phone. All you have to do is to edit /etc/inittab and rmove the comment for the mgetty line. Set it to the right device and look at the mgetty configuration. This should turn your computer into a dial-in server. There is nothing to setup for zmodem. Ciao BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 http//www.suse.com Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by bb＠suse.de 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

Ted Harding wrote: > > On 15-Feb-98 Bodo Bauer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > SuSEconfig checks several file permissions (this is a security feature) > > and > > resets them if the don't fit /etc/permissions. To make the change of the > > permissions permanent change the line > > > > /dev/zero root.root 644 > > > > in /etc/permissions to > > > > /dev/zero root.root 666 > > > > They are set to 644 cause it doesn't make any sense to write to > > /dev/zero... > > Hi Bodo et al, > > With respect (and I mean it -- S.u.S.E. is a very nice distribution) I think it > makes just as much sense to write to /dev/zero as to /dev/null. The differences I don't think so. /dev/null is for writing and /dev/zero for reading of useless data. > is in reading. If setting idiosyncratic permissions is likely to cause several > programs to misbehave, then please leave them as 666! But anyway, may be you are right and we should turn the permissions to 666. I don't think it's a security hole to have it writable for everyone. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 http//www.suse.com Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

** Reply to note from "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak(a)execpc.com> Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:29:41 -0600 I'm using the SuSE Matrox SVGA Server, set up using xf86config. Hope that helps. Thanks, Arlen > > > What server are you using and how are you setting it up? Need more info on > this to give you any suggestions. > cheers,frank > > > On Feb 14, 1:41pm, adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree > > > > I thought I had my 1024x768 modeline configured properly in my XF86Config > file. I had > > verified it using xvidtune and used X successfully several times over a week > period. Then all > > of a sudden, this mode stopped displaying correctly. Now with each session I > have re-xvidtune > > 1024x768 to get it to work (and apply the settings of course). Any changes > to XF86Config to > > reflect a properly set 1024x768 don't seem to work. Everytime I startup with > startx, I now > > anticipate using xvidtune over again. > > > > My modeline settings are (the problem one): > > > > 85 1024 1074 1204 1380 768 820 823 917 > > > > I am running a 4M Matrox Mystique 220 card w/ a KTX monitor that can handle > 50-90 Hz vertical > > and 30 KHz-64 KHz horizontal. > > > > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Arlen Carlson > > > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >-- End of excerpt from adcarlso(a)visinet.ca > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by nwobone＠hotmail.com 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

>Hi All!,, > > >First of all, I've got ppp working under my user name now. And I want to >gave a BIG thanks everyone who gave me hints on what to do. > >Now, how did you set your computer's time from the net? My computer loses >about 5-10 minutes per day. In fact, it seems that it got worst since I >put Linux on and stopped using M$. > > >JIM > Hello all: I am a new user, and still having troubles, but i found an answer for your question Jim, that worked ok for me. I just don't use the gmt setting for the time, and my 'puter seems alright with this. Otherwise, i was losing like 1-2 hours a day. jim seiberling -- Linux RULES, windoze Drools :p~~ -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 16 Feb '98

16 Feb '98

On 15-Feb-98 Bodo Bauer wrote: > Hi, > > SuSEconfig checks several file permissions (this is a security feature) > and > resets them if the don't fit /etc/permissions. To make the change of the > permissions permanent change the line > > /dev/zero root.root 644 > > in /etc/permissions to > > /dev/zero root.root 666 > > They are set to 644 cause it doesn't make any sense to write to > /dev/zero... Hi Bodo et al, With respect (and I mean it -- S.u.S.E. is a very nice distribution) I think it makes just as much sense to write to /dev/zero as to /dev/null. The differences is in reading. If setting idiosyncratic permissions is likely to cause several programs to misbehave, then please leave them as 666! Best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 16-Feb-98 Time: 00:04:29 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape/Communicator 4.04
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Feb 15, 3:24pm, Frank Pawlak wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape/Communicator 4.04 > > On Feb 15, 2:11pm, Donn Washburn aka N5XWB wrote: > > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape/Communicator 4.04 > > > > Hey Group: > > > > First time using this list server. > > > > I have had problems getting Netcscape/Communicator 4.04PE to find the > > pppd. > > It appears that pppd is running as called up by ezppp. ezppp seems to > > connect, login and startup ppp. At that point trying Netscape gets a > > URL or DNS not found type of error. > > This sounds like you don't have ezppp setup properly or that you are not > pointing at your ISP's DNS server. What does /etc/resolv.vonf look like? You > can set that up using yast. Either way it appears that you are not pointing to > the DNS server. This is a seperate issue from Netscape installation. Sorry for the typo in my original post. I meant to ask what does /etc/resolv.conf look like. Frank > The URL <A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html"><A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html</A">http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html</A</A>> has info on installing > Netscape. It addresses some specific installation and lib issues. > > Hope that this clearifies > cheers, > Frank > > > So I tried Frank Pawlaks suggested URL "www.members.ping.at on a > > NON-Linux machine running Netscape and either I typed it wrong or it was > > not found. > > Based on his email it appears that that site may have some information > > on the problem I and several other Austin, TX SuSE 5.1 users are > > having. > > > > Thanks > > Donn > > n5xwb(a)inetport.com > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >-- End of excerpt from Donn Washburn aka N5XWB > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Frank Pawlak -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] getty/mgetty/agetty .....
by netd＠fastrans.net 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Michael Clark wrote: > Hello all > > I would like to set up my linux box at work to replace our current > win95 box. In order to do this I need the following: > Take a look here - some good 'HOWTO' style information ... <A HREF="http://www.unixworld.com/uworld/archives/97/tutorial/015/015.html"><A HREF="http://www.unixworld.com/uworld/archives/97/tutorial/015/015.html</A">http://www.unixworld.com/uworld/archives/97/tutorial/015/015.html</A</A>> <A HREF="http://www.unixworld.com/uworld/archives/97/tutorial/013/013.part1.html"><A HREF="http://www.unixworld.com/uworld/archives/97/tutorial/013/013.part1.html</A">http://www.unixworld.com/uworld/archives/97/tutorial/013/013.part1.html</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] getty/mgetty/agetty .....
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Hello all I would like to set up my linux box at work to replace our current win95 box. In order to do this I need the following: How do I tell it to answer the phone? How do I set up vt100 emulation when answering the phone? Can I give the modem logins a separate welcome screen? How do I set up zmodem file transfers? I have been reading documentation, but very little is said about letting someone call in through my modem. I can probably figure the rest out if it would answer the phone. Thanks mc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by brauki＠cww.de 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On 15 Feb, Michael Perry wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 12:08:23PM -0500, zentara stated: >> >> Hi, >> >> This isn't a big problem, but I want to know >> what is happening? >> >> When I installed Wabi on SuSE, it requires >> me to chmod 666 on /dev/zero; in order for it to >> run. >> >> That's fine. >> >> What's unusual is whenever I start Yast, and do >> some system change, and Suse config starts >> when I exit; the mod on /dev/zero gets >> reset. It's no problem to do the chmod >> again, but why does SuSe config do this. >> Is it part of security? >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > I dont have an answer but am quite curious about /dev/zero since when I > upgraded to 5.1 it reset permissions on /dev/zero and rendered wabi unable > to run until I figured out exactly the problem. What in heck is > /dev/zero? it is one of the devices that are very useful to backup all your windows software onto ;-) /dev/zero produces infinite zero bytes when read from and should act as a waste paper basket for data copied into (see the above suggestion ;-)) /dev/null is the "standard" waste basket, everything copied into vanishes in data heaven. reading gains <eof> you should be able to write to both devices. I do not understand the default setting of 744 either. > Why does wabi want to find /dev/zero with certain permissions > set? Why does SuSE 5.1 reset permissions on files like this when I > upgraded? > > Juergen > > -- > > --Michael Perry-- > mperry(a)basin.com > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape/Communicator 4.04
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Feb 15, 2:11pm, Donn Washburn aka N5XWB wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape/Communicator 4.04 > > Hey Group: > > First time using this list server. > > I have had problems getting Netcscape/Communicator 4.04PE to find the > pppd. > It appears that pppd is running as called up by ezppp. ezppp seems to > connect, login and startup ppp. At that point trying Netscape gets a > URL or DNS not found type of error. This sounds like you don't have ezppp setup properly or that you are not pointing at your ISP's DNS server. What does /etc/resolv.vonf look like? You can set that up using yast. Either way it appears that you are not pointing to the DNS server. This is a seperate issue from Netscape installation. The URL <A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html"><A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html</A">http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html</A</A>> has info on installing Netscape. It addresses some specific installation and lib issues. Hope that this clearifies cheers, Frank > So I tried Frank Pawlaks suggested URL "www.members.ping.at on a > NON-Linux machine running Netscape and either I typed it wrong or it was > not found. > Based on his email it appears that that site may have some information > on the problem I and several other Austin, TX SuSE 5.1 users are > having. > > Thanks > Donn > n5xwb(a)inetport.com > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from Donn Washburn aka N5XWB -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape/Communicator 4.04
by netd＠fastrans.net 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Donn Washburn aka N5XWB wrote: > Hey Group: > > First time using this list server. > > I have had problems getting Netcscape/Communicator 4.04PE to find the > pppd. > It appears that pppd is running as called up by ezppp. ezppp seems to > connect, login and startup ppp. At that point trying Netscape gets a > URL or DNS not found type of error. Netscape Communicator is extremely dependent upon DNS working correctly. If you have a home page that you want Netscape to find when you start it up, you will notice that it does a dns lookup before you actually see the browser materialize on your screen. It will refuse to finish loading until either it gets it damn lookup, or it has a very long timeout of several minutes waiting for a reply that will never come until your machine is connected to the net. They also run a daemon that shows up as a child of netscape, called "dns helper". Evidently this thing does some sort of lowlevel DNS caching. Earlier versions would leave this child as an orphan process even after netscape was killed. The last version I have, 4.04 seems to kill the child if the parent is exited cleanly, and appears to go away most of the time now. I have noticed that dnshelper seems to be a lagger when it comes to updating itself with fressh info, something to be aware of. It seems to catch up well enough most of the time Incidently, I have not experienced many of the problems that I have seen on this list, as I have downloaded directly from Netscape. The concept of getting Netscape as an RPM does not really appeal to me, as I have used the crappy little install routine from Netscape and it seems to work fine. I've seen more of the classic "bus error" problems with the Solaris version of Netscape than I have on the the more recent Linux ELF versions. The only real "bug" I have seen is the fact that the Linux version has some kind of "punctuation translation error" with HTML documents produced by other-than-Unix versions of Netscape Composer. Is this some kind of NLS or keyboard map problem? For example, words or phrases with an apostrophe, or quotes, (punctuation) wind up with a question mark instead of the appropriate punctuation. "John's" becomes John?s , or "Corp.'s" becomes "Corp.?s" ...but back on an NT or Win 95 machine that created the document, the punctuation is ok. Publishing from the Unix/Linux version then publishes the ? instead of the original punctuation. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] rpm2html for S.u.S.E. 5.1 ?
by deem＠wdm.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

BB, Is there an rpm for rpm2html-0.60.tar.gz for SuSE 5.1 ? This would be a nice addition if not. Thanks Again Bodo, -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by mperry＠basin.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 12:19:04PM -0800, Bodo Bauer stated: > > Hi, > > /dev/zero is kind of opposite to /dev/null. You can use /dev/zero as a > source > for null bytes. Gor example you can create a 10k file full of null bytes > with > the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=myfile bs=1024 count=10 > > SuSEconfig checks several file permissions (this is a security feature) > and > resets them if the don't fit /etc/permissions. To make the change of the > permissions permanent change the line > > /dev/zero root.root 644 > > in /etc/permissions to > > /dev/zero root.root 666 > > They are set to 644 cause it doesn't make any sense to write to > /dev/zero... Many thanks for the explanation about this. I never understood why wabi would want to write to something that contains null bytes; but I guess it checks permissions as it starts. I made the change in /etc/permissions so I do not have to reset the /debv/zero after each running of suseconfig. > Ciao, > BB > - > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > http//www.suse.com Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by bb＠suse.de 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Michael Perry wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 12:08:23PM -0500, zentara stated: > > > > Hi, > > > > This isn't a big problem, but I want to know > > what is happening? > > > > When I installed Wabi on SuSE, it requires > > me to chmod 666 on /dev/zero; in order for it to > > run. > > > > That's fine. > > > > What's unusual is whenever I start Yast, and do > > some system change, and Suse config starts > > when I exit; the mod on /dev/zero gets > > reset. It's no problem to do the chmod > > again, but why does SuSe config do this. > > Is it part of security? > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > I dont have an answer but am quite curious about /dev/zero since when I > upgraded to 5.1 it reset permissions on /dev/zero and rendered wabi unable > to run until I figured out exactly the problem. What in heck is > /dev/zero? Why does wabi want to find /dev/zero with certain permissions > set? Why does SuSE 5.1 reset permissions on files like this when I > upgraded? Hi, /dev/zero is kind of opposite to /dev/null. You can use /dev/zero as a source for null bytes. Gor example you can create a 10k file full of null bytes with the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=myfile bs=1024 count=10 SuSEconfig checks several file permissions (this is a security feature) and resets them if the don't fit /etc/permissions. To make the change of the permissions permanent change the line /dev/zero root.root 644 in /etc/permissions to /dev/zero root.root 666 They are set to 644 cause it doesn't make any sense to write to /dev/zero... Ciao, BB - Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 http//www.suse.com Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by mperry＠basin.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 02:42:08PM -0500, zentara stated: <snip> > Here is something I found about /dev/zero. > It seems to be a common problem. > 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 > Back to the directory for section 4 > > null(4) > > NAME > > null, zero - data sink > > DESCRIPTION > > Data written on a null or zero special file is discarded. > > Reads from the null special file always return end of > file, whereas reads from zero always return \0 characters. > > null and zero are typically created by: > > mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3 > mknod -m 666 /dev/zero c 1 5 > chown root.mem /dev/null /dev/zero Thanks. On a whim I started wabi after having the suseconfig run for some stuff I did. It reset the /dev/zero and I had to redo the permissions so that wabi would run. This does not seem to be a totally big deal. But its rather strange that suseconfig would reset the permissions on a file that is a null value according to the info you submitted above. What exactly are the rationales for the file permissions and wabi anyhow? I know there are wabi users on this list. How do you folks deal with /dev/zero? -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape/Communicator 4.04
by n5xwb＠inetport.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Hey Group: First time using this list server. I have had problems getting Netcscape/Communicator 4.04PE to find the pppd. It appears that pppd is running as called up by ezppp. ezppp seems to connect, login and startup ppp. At that point trying Netscape gets a URL or DNS not found type of error. So I tried Frank Pawlaks suggested URL "www.members.ping.at on a NON-Linux machine running Netscape and either I typed it wrong or it was not found. Based on his email it appears that that site may have some information on the problem I and several other Austin, TX SuSE 5.1 users are having. Thanks Donn n5xwb(a)inetport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: PPP-on/off
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 wtopa(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > Yep, that is what I do. 4 times an hour I have a cron job set up in > wtopa to connect to the net, set the computer time ( this is > overkill!), get any new mail (while deleteing mail I got the last Hi All!,, First of all, I've got ppp working under my user name now. And I want to gave a BIG thanks everyone who gave me hints on what to do. Now, how did you set your computer's time from the net? My computer loses about 5-10 minutes per day. In fact, it seems that it got worst since I put Linux on and stopped using M$. JIM ----------------------------------------- James Hatridge Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" German Stamps From Germany About Germany In English! email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: staroffice
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Hi all! Like most of you'll I too would like to get staroffice 4. But with my little 14,400 modem I figure that it will take about 15 hours to download. That's just too long. Does anyone know where (or how) I could get a CD with it? I would be willing to go to around 20DM for it. Thanks for your help! JIM ----------------------------------------- James Hatridge Publisher "Warthog Bulletin" German Stamps From Germany About Germany In English! email for details : hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by zentara＠mindspring.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

Michael Perry wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 12:08:23PM -0500, zentara stated: > > > > What's unusual is whenever I start Yast, and do > > some system change, and Suse config starts > > when I exit; the mod on /dev/zero gets > > reset. It's no problem to do the chmod > > again, but why does SuSe config do this. > > Is it part of security? > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > I dont have an answer but am quite curious about /dev/zero since when I > upgraded to 5.1 it reset permissions on /dev/zero and rendered wabi unable > to run until I figured out exactly the problem. What in heck is > /dev/zero? Why does wabi want to find /dev/zero with certain permissions > set? Why does SuSE 5.1 reset permissions on files like this when I > upgraded? > Here is something I found about /dev/zero. It seems to be a common problem. 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 Back to the directory for section 4 null(4) NAME null, zero - data sink DESCRIPTION Data written on a null or zero special file is discarded. Reads from the null special file always return end of file, whereas reads from zero always return \0 characters. null and zero are typically created by: mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3 mknod -m 666 /dev/zero c 1 5 chown root.mem /dev/null /dev/zero NOTES If these devices are not writable and readable for all users, many programs will act strange. FILES /dev/null /dev/zero SEE ALSO mknod(1), chown(1) 8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Wabi, /dev/zero, and SuSe Config
by mperry＠basin.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Sun, Feb 15, 1998 at 12:08:23PM -0500, zentara stated: > > Hi, > > This isn't a big problem, but I want to know > what is happening? > > When I installed Wabi on SuSE, it requires > me to chmod 666 on /dev/zero; in order for it to > run. > > That's fine. > > What's unusual is whenever I start Yast, and do > some system change, and Suse config starts > when I exit; the mod on /dev/zero gets > reset. It's no problem to do the chmod > again, but why does SuSe config do this. > Is it part of security? > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e I dont have an answer but am quite curious about /dev/zero since when I upgraded to 5.1 it reset permissions on /dev/zero and rendered wabi unable to run until I figured out exactly the problem. What in heck is /dev/zero? Why does wabi want to find /dev/zero with certain permissions set? Why does SuSE 5.1 reset permissions on files like this when I upgraded? -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

What server are you using and how are you setting it up? Need more info on this to give you any suggestions. cheers,frank On Feb 14, 1:41pm, adcarlso(a)visinet.ca wrote: > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Resolution problem in XFree > > I thought I had my 1024x768 modeline configured properly in my XF86Config file. I had > verified it using xvidtune and used X successfully several times over a week period. Then all > of a sudden, this mode stopped displaying correctly. Now with each session I have re-xvidtune > 1024x768 to get it to work (and apply the settings of course). Any changes to XF86Config to > reflect a properly set 1024x768 don't seem to work. Everytime I startup with startx, I now > anticipate using xvidtune over again. > > My modeline settings are (the problem one): > > 85 1024 1074 1204 1380 768 820 823 917 > > I am running a 4M Matrox Mystique 220 card w/ a KTX monitor that can handle 50-90 Hz vertical > and 30 KHz-64 KHz horizontal. > > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Arlen Carlson > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from adcarlso(a)visinet.ca -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install
by fpawlak＠execpc.com 15 Feb '98

15 Feb '98

On Feb 14, 10:36am, J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] RPM Communicator Install > > Chris Herrnberger wrote: > > > Some on on this list pointed me to Theofilu home page that has extensive > > Netscape/Communicator info, see www.members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html for > > installation and cures to bugs. Works for me and thanks to someone for > > recommending this site. > > > > For some reason this URL doesn't work for me, got another way to get there from > here? Give <A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html"><A HREF="http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html</A">http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html</A</A>> a try. BTW the netscape wrapper referenced at that site works very well. I would recommend trying it. Cheers, Frank > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >-- End of excerpt from J.D.K. Chipps -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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