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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] no KDE, ftp or telnet
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Santiago Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi. > I've just installed suse linux (from a CD that came with PCWorld), and > I've seen the KDE has not installed, or, at least, the X doesn't look > like they should. And I have no ftp server and no access by telnet. I > thought that KDE came with de SuSE distribution, and that ftp and telnet > came with any basic installation of linux. > Any comment? > Hi, KDE comes with Suse, but it isn't installed as the default X manager just because you install it. Read the installation info for KDE. Fvwm2 is the default, I think. If you want an nice ftp server set up, install the packages wu-ftp, ftpdir, and inetd must be started. Telnet is probably turned off because you are trying to login as root, or inetd isn't going. Suse works great, but not without getting some configuration done. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by tjungblu＠abo.rhein-zeitung.de 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Luis A. Costabile wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Thorsten Jungblut wrote: > > > > das ist jetzt bestimmt eine ganz dumme frage, > > aber: > > > > auf www.linuxhq.com bekommt man immer die neusten > > kernel-patches > > > > wie installiert man die ? (suse-linux) > > > > und wenn ich 2.0.30 habe, muss ich dann, um auf > > 2.0.32 zu kommen, den patch fuer 2.0.31 auch haben ? > Would someone translate please? when I hear "Kernel Patches", i'd like to > know what the person is saying.... my english is not the best, so excuse me for any mistakes... i was the author of that... at linuxhq.com you can download new kernel-patches. what i asked was how do i install these on linux-5.1 ? and if i've got 2.0.30 and want to have 2.0.32, do i have to load the patch 2.0.31 AND 2.0.32 or only 2.0.32 ? Thorsten Jungblut tjungblut(a)abo.rhein-zeitung.de -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Michael Zimmermann wrote: > > Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > I'm pushing my one semester of German here, but I think he said: > > Congratulations. Really impressing for just one semester of German, which must be a quite difficult to learn language. > thanks to all the wonderful translators. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by james＠suse.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Hi! We are working on our Alpha port as we speak. So, you won't be hearing any statements against other platforms from S.u.S.E. ;) Cheers! James > > The Red Hat folks came out to Internet World in Los Angeles and visited assorted > > Linux Users Groups. They said support for non-Intel platforms is as much as > > dead. Not enough of a market to make it worth the development expense. I > Well I dont use redhat anyway, and my need for a Alpha version makes my > opinion more strong due to their latest statements. I was going to use > redhat linux on a alpha based system, however they are starting to tread > very thin ice with me...their commercial interests outweigh their > versatility, its time to can redhat and find a more flexible distributor. > > > also found it odd that in discussing the upcoming versions and install/config > > features they kept saying "Windows 98 is going to...." Appears the commercial > > world blues are hitting Linux well at least Red Hat. > > With the sucky operational ability of redhat, suse and slackware tend to > get my vote depending on the task at hand...I know they dont do alpha > either but at least they have not taken a stand against the possibility of > it ---------------------------------------------------------------- S.u.S.E. - Home of German-engineered "S.u.S.E. Linux" 458 Santa Clara Avenue Oakland, CA 94610 USA Tel +1.510.835.7873 Fax +1.510.835.7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Our mailing lists are functional! suse-announce-e -> Announcements from S.u.S.E. LLC suse-linux-e -> Discussions about S.u.S.E. Linux suse-adabas -> ADABAS D RDBMS w/ S.u.S.E. Linux (bilingual) To subscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)suse.com with 'subscribe <listname>' in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by michael.zimmermann＠halifax.rwth-aachen.de 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > I'm pushing my one semester of German here, but I think he said: Congratulations. Really impressing for just one semester of German, which must be a quite difficult to learn language. > "es gruesst ein anfaenger *schaem*" This may say that it frightens a biginner, > but I'm not sure. Not really. He is saying "greetings from a beginner *I'm ashamed* (of myself/ of the question (?))" Ciao, Michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

I think regarding end user apps, the Linux community needs to be just as polished as the windows community. For example, we should have a multi-mirrored "TUCOWS" apps distribution system equivalent for Linux apps. And yes, static binaries is the way to go, but the nice thing about Linux is that you can dl the source if you like. I think that all of the distributors need to sync up with directory layouts and conventions - not just for the Linux core community but for the sake of the coming unwashed masses. Look at what happened to getting connected to the Internet. first, there were no ISPs, now there is software that does the entire job of getting connected and handles dialup quite nicely. It's just a matter of maturity. Linux on the desktop needs to be as seamless as it can be for newbies and windows converts. As much as I've maligned the RPM system, nothing else has been developed - not that something couldn't be. Humans are way to lazy, we'll take a crappy-almost-working solution over a raw design most of the time. And it's not that we're really lazy, often we haven't got the time to fiddle with poorly written install scripts or whatever and a simple, clean, working, install makes life so much nicer. -tks- Brian wrote: > T, > > Redistribution of software that requires no compiling comes to mind > too. For instance, compressed packages to be distributed (sprayed > via a utility called pkgadd) on your hard drive instead of manually > compiling everytime you want to try a new application for Linux. If > compiling needs to be done--- automate that too by asking simple > questions about the user's config and carrying out methods > accordingly. > > Packaged applications that can be installed on any Linux/Unix distrib > is a dream but this dream should be considered along with your > "remote autocompile kernel dream". > > We all know we have to set our goals HIGH for a little SUCCESS. > > BTW, I've started on a few STATIC/semi-dynamic software packages as > you receive this message. Recommendations are appreciated. > > Netsomnia -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] no KDE, ftp or telnet
by tonyw＠navicom.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Santiago Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi. > I've just installed suse linux (from a CD that came with PCWorld), > Any comment? > > -- As a 'newbie' about to install Linux I can't answer your query, but as a subscriber to PCWorld, for some time I sure would be interested to know which issue contained the CD. Tony. -- ___ _ /\ /| | . / / \/\ /\ ___/_|_ | /| / / \ \/\/ \^^/\ _/ | |/ |/ / \ \/ \/ \ ________________ _/ \/ / \ ************** The Great/ / \ Pacific/ \ Northwest \_ Home Page: HREF="<A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw"><A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A">http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A</A>>" -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by deem＠wdm.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

> OK, armed with this new information, I went to "all" of the .bash.rc files > and edited them, adding: export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape > > ( /root , /root/skel, /etc/skel, /home/jdkc. /home/sysadm) > > I might add that Netscape was working fine before without these entries, > but I added them anyway, just in case. > > Then I downloaded Communicator 4.04 again, just in case, and reinstalled > it. > > Same results, I get over 100 entries on XMessage that say: > > /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol 'name' > > Aalso, when I access a webpage that has sound, it shuts down Netscape and > I have to reboot it. > > Otherwise, everything works fine, that I've tried. I'd really like to get > the 100+ "symbols resolved however if anyone has any more ideas. > > Thanks in advance. > Did you read and follow these instructions in the README ? * Included with all distributions is a file called XKeysymDB. Without this file, many warnings about "unknown keysyms" will be generated when the program starts up, and most keyboard equivalents won't work. This is a general problem with running Motif programs on systems not configured for Motif, and so will be necessary on most Sun systems. This file is included with all packages because some systems have an older version of this file, so you may still get some warnings. The XKeysymDB file normally goes in /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB or /usr/openwin/lib/XKeysymDB, but you can override that with XKEYSYMDB environment variable. -Regards -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Luis, I'm pushing my one semester of German here, but I think he said: Now this is certainly a dumb question, but: on www.linuxhq.com one can get the newest kernel-patches. How are these installed? (suse-linux) And if I have 2.0.30 do I need to apply the 2.031 patch before the the 2.0.32? "es gruesst ein anfaenger *schaem*" This may say that it frightens a biginner, but I'm not sure. Spaeter, Steve Luis A. Costabile wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Thorsten Jungblut wrote: > > > > > das ist jetzt bestimmt eine ganz dumme frage, > > aber: > > > > auf www.linuxhq.com bekommt man immer die neusten > > kernel-patches > > > > wie installiert man die ? (suse-linux) > > > > und wenn ich 2.0.30 habe, muss ich dann, um auf > > 2.0.32 zu kommen, den patch fuer 2.0.31 auch haben ? > > > > es gruesst > > > > ein anfaenger *schaem* > > Would someone translate please? when I hear "Kernel Patches", i'd like to > know what the person is saying.... > > thanks. > > -- > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 > <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> > To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. > -- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by satan＠nfinity.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

That is far too much work. Next time when you want to make a global change simply add the line to /etc/profile. export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape when added to /etc/profile will affect every user. Adding the line to bashrc only makes sense on a multiuser system where the other users are accessing netscape from a different location, like /usr/local/netscape, which doesn't make sense anyway, but you follow the logic. J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > OK, armed with this new information, I went to "all" of the .bash.rc files > and edited them, adding: export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape > > ( /root , /root/skel, /etc/skel, /home/jdkc. /home/sysadm) > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS SLOW!!!
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 07:31:43PM +0100, Anatoli Iouditski wrote: > > Well, in my previous message I have suggested that > NFS write operation is slow. Now I am desperate completely > because I've found out that the read is very slow also. > For instance, here are the elapsed times on an Ultra host > on my linux box (P2-266, 3c905 network card) > for two commands > > time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=16k count=1024 > ultra: 0:16.79 > linux: 15:24.33 > > time dd if=testfile of=/dev/null bs=16k count=1024 > ultra: 0:00.25 > linux: 1:00.43 > > When I use ftp I obtain rather reasonable transfer rates > (up to 500KB/s). Is my installation (SuSE 5.1) wrong or what? Linux is known to have one of the slowest NFS clients/servers. This is suppost to be fixed in the new Linux kernel, or be on the list of things to rewrite. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by gordster＠juno.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Interlinear translation for Luis On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:28:48 -0500 (EST) "Luis A. Costabile" <luis(a)lac.resonet.com> writes: > >On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Thorsten Jungblut wrote: > >> >> das ist jetzt bestimmt eine ganz dumme frage, aber: Here comes a very dumb question, but anyway: >> >> auf www.linuxhq.com bekommt man immer die neusten >> kernel-patches at www.linuxhq.com we can get the newest kernel patches. >> >> wie installiert man die ? (suse-linux) So, how does one install them? >> >> und wenn ich 2.0.30 habe, muss ich dann, um auf >> 2.0.32 zu kommen, den patch fuer 2.0.31 auch haben ? >> and if I have 2.0.30, must I then first install the patch for 2.0.31 to get ready for 2.0.32, [or can one go directly to the 2.0.32 ]? >> es gruesst greetings from a bashful beginner >> ein anfaenger *schaem* > >Would someone translate please? when I hear "Kernel Patches", i'd >like to >know what the person is saying.... > >thanks. > >-- >Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 ><A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> >To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject >field. >-- Gordy Heitzman gordster(a)juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by netsomni＠fastrans.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

What are the Linux versions for rvplayer? I was only aware of two versions (3.0 and 5.0beta) for rvplayer on the www.real.com server. I have 5.0b3 and never could get anything later. -N- > From: World Leader Pretend <jpcowh01(a)ox.slug.louisville.edu> > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:05:47 -0500 (EST) > Reply-to: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > > > Dominik Weis wrote: > > > > > >> zentara wrote: > > > > And I still can't get it to launch automatically from > > > > Netscape. It always > > > > wants to save to disk. This is OK though, since I usually > > > > get them to play better off the hard drive. > > > > > > I didn't have any difficulty doing this older versions of rvplayer... the newest versions hang when netscape tries to call a ram, ra file, etc... > > I also was using the evaluation version of OSS/Linux when this was working correctly... > > What I do is get the URL for the ram, ra and enter into the Open Location and type the URL in... It doesn't automatically keep a history or bookmark file... > > > > > > > > I think there is a small problem in the way the readme describes the > > > installation as a plug in. It worked for me in that way. > > > > > > When I started netscape there was an entry for RealAudio in the > > > application(where you enter the helper applications). > > > Description: RealAudio > > > MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio > > > Suffixs: ra,ram > > > > > > Application: rvplayer > > > > > > That worked for me. I couldn't get it working with the way how it was > > > described in the Readme. I had exactly the same problem that you have. > > > I hope it helps and you can understand my english. > > > > > > > Hi, your english is great. Better than alot of people I know.:-) > > > > I also should mention that you have to get the RVplayer somewhere > > in your path, for it to auto-launch from Netscape. > > > > zentara > > > > I Believe that both the MOZILLA_HOME= and the LDZ_something= both must be in your /etc/profile or /$HOME/.profile ... > > Let me know if you find any more info about this (or if there a separate plug-in program for Linux aside from the rvplayer 5.03b application... > > Jonathan > > -- > =========== =========== > > Jonathan Paul Cowherd > jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu > <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> > > This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend > =========== =========== > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS SLOW!!!
by netsomni＠fastrans.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Anatoli, Let us see your fstab,iftab, and device listing. That might help us help you. Netsomnia > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:31:43 +0100 > From: Anatoli Iouditski <anatoli.iouditski(a)inrialpes.fr> > Organization: INRIA Rhone-Alpes > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS SLOW!!! > Reply-to: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Well, in my previous message I have suggested that > NFS write operation is slow. Now I am desperate completely > because I've found out that the read is very slow also. > For instance, here are the elapsed times on an Ultra host > on my linux box (P2-266, 3c905 network card) > for two commands > > time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=16k count=1024 > ultra: 0:16.79 > linux: 15:24.33 > > time dd if=testfile of=/dev/null bs=16k count=1024 > ultra: 0:00.25 > linux: 1:00.43 > > When I use ftp I obtain rather reasonable transfer rates > (up to 500KB/s). Is my installation (SuSE 5.1) wrong or what? > > Thanks, > Anatoli > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by wade＠xwin.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Steve B. wrote: > The Red Hat folks came out to Internet World in Los Angeles and visited assorted > Linux Users Groups. They said support for non-Intel platforms is as much as > dead. Not enough of a market to make it worth the development expense. I Well I dont use redhat anyway, and my need for a Alpha version makes my opinion more strong due to their latest statements. I was going to use redhat linux on a alpha based system, however they are starting to tread very thin ice with me...their commercial interests outweigh their versatility, its time to can redhat and find a more flexible distributor. > also found it odd that in discussing the upcoming versions and install/config > features they kept saying "Windows 98 is going to...." Appears the commercial > world blues are hitting Linux well at least Red Hat. With the sucky operational ability of redhat, suse and slackware tend to get my vote depending on the task at hand...I know they dont do alpha either but at least they have not taken a stand against the possibility of it -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by jdkc＠woptura.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

zentara wrote: > J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > > > zentara wrote: > > > > > > > > > Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? > > > > > > In your .bashrc put "export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape"; > > > that solves alot of problems. > > > > > > > > > Which .bashrc ? I found five of them when I did a $ locate .bashrc > > > > Also do I put the quotation marks around the > > > > export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape > > > > and the semi colon at the end? > > > > I found other "export entries in .bashrc that didn't have the " " and > > the ; > > > > Just wondering, and trying to do it right. > > > > I assumed you are using bash, most of us new users are. > > The .bashrc to edit is the one in the home directory > of the user who is using netscape. > You probably want to put it in /root also, so root > has netscape running. > > If root dosn't have one , login as root and copy > /etc/skel/.bashrc to /root/.bashrc. > > DONT PUT QUOTATIONS around it, they were just in the docs > for clarity, which confused you. > No semicolon either. > Usually in docs they put " " or < > around > entries or keystrokes to indicate they are to > entered in exactly that way. > > Also after you save the new .bashrc , you must > either logout and relogin as the user, or > enter " source .bashrc " ; again without > quotations. > This tells the system to reread the new .bashrc. OK, armed with this new information, I went to "all" of the .bash.rc files and edited them, adding: export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape ( /root , /root/skel, /etc/skel, /home/jdkc. /home/sysadm) I might add that Netscape was working fine before without these entries, but I added them anyway, just in case. Then I downloaded Communicator 4.04 again, just in case, and reinstalled it. Same results, I get over 100 entries on XMessage that say: /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol 'name' Aalso, when I access a webpage that has sound, it shuts down Netscape and I have to reboot it. Otherwise, everything works fine, that I've tried. I'd really like to get the 100+ "symbols resolved however if anyone has any more ideas. Thanks in advance. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by wade＠xwin.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Steve B. wrote: > features they kept saying "Windows 98 is going to...." Appears the commercial windows 98 is not much differnet then 95 in the beta stages, win 98 is not going to do much of anything it promissed, per the microsoft way -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by netsomni＠fastrans.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

T, Redistribution of software that requires no compiling comes to mind too. For instance, compressed packages to be distributed (sprayed via a utility called pkgadd) on your hard drive instead of manually compiling everytime you want to try a new application for Linux. If compiling needs to be done--- automate that too by asking simple questions about the user's config and carrying out methods accordingly. Packaged applications that can be installed on any Linux/Unix distrib is a dream but this dream should be considered along with your "remote autocompile kernel dream". We all know we have to set our goals HIGH for a little SUCCESS. BTW, I've started on a few STATIC/semi-dynamic software packages as you receive this message. Recommendations are appreciated. Netsomnia > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:55:44 -0500 > From: Tom Schaefer <tschaefe(a)paging.mot.com> > Organization: ... > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page > Reply-to: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Read the back of the book dude ... mockers all wind up in the lake of fire .... LOL > > Seriously though, the nice thing about it is that you can have some precompiled kernels > for download that are just like what the distributors are shipping, in fact that's a cool > idea John - you include some pages with stock kernels from the various distributors, such > as Slack, Debian, Red Hat, SuSE ... then people can also have a handy resource for install > diskettes, etc... put some LILO tutorials and such on the site ... > > As far as support goes, it's just like any other linux effort. This imaginary - but deluxe > site - would be a good idea to put a majordomo on it and let it support itself like any > other newsgroup or list like this one at SuSE. SuSE's advantage would be to have this list > as well as a separate list for the kernel compiler site. > > The kind of traffic this thing would bring would become a major resource on the net. > > Great idea John ... > > -tks- > > John Weekley wrote: > > > > > -- > > Who's gonna support this mosnter ;)? "Your kernel doesn't work on my > > machine! WHaaaa!!!! LOL!" > > John Weekley > > > > -- > > Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged > > demo > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS SLOW!!!
by anatoli.iouditski＠inrialpes.fr 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Well, in my previous message I have suggested that NFS write operation is slow. Now I am desperate completely because I've found out that the read is very slow also. For instance, here are the elapsed times on an Ultra host on my linux box (P2-266, 3c905 network card) for two commands time dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=16k count=1024 ultra: 0:16.79 linux: 15:24.33 time dd if=testfile of=/dev/null bs=16k count=1024 ultra: 0:00.25 linux: 1:00.43 When I use ftp I obtain rather reasonable transfer rates (up to 500KB/s). Is my installation (SuSE 5.1) wrong or what? Thanks, Anatoli -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] configure kde
by di6mika＠cse.hks.se 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

I'm trying to figure out how susewm configures kde, but I can't find it in the manual. How is it done? Have a great day Mikael ----------------------------------------------------------------- Life doesn't imitate art, it imitates bad television. Mikael Asp ICQ # 688106 (Home), 4533793 (University) e-mail: di6mika(a)cse.hks.se homepage: <A HREF="http://www.cse.hks.se/~di6mika/"><A HREF="http://www.cse.hks.se/~di6mika/</A">http://www.cse.hks.se/~di6mika/</A</A>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by jpcowh01＠ox.slug.louisville.edu 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

> > Dominik Weis wrote: > > > >> zentara wrote: > > > And I still can't get it to launch automatically from > > > Netscape. It always > > > wants to save to disk. This is OK though, since I usually > > > get them to play better off the hard drive. > > > I didn't have any difficulty doing this older versions of rvplayer... the newest versions hang when netscape tries to call a ram, ra file, etc... I also was using the evaluation version of OSS/Linux when this was working correctly... What I do is get the URL for the ram, ra and enter into the Open Location and type the URL in... It doesn't automatically keep a history or bookmark file... > > > > I think there is a small problem in the way the readme describes the > > installation as a plug in. It worked for me in that way. > > > > When I started netscape there was an entry for RealAudio in the > > application(where you enter the helper applications). > > Description: RealAudio > > MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio > > Suffixs: ra,ram > > > > Application: rvplayer > > > > That worked for me. I couldn't get it working with the way how it was > > described in the Readme. I had exactly the same problem that you have. > > I hope it helps and you can understand my english. > > > > Hi, your english is great. Better than alot of people I know.:-) > > I also should mention that you have to get the RVplayer somewhere > in your path, for it to auto-launch from Netscape. > > zentara > I Believe that both the MOZILLA_HOME= and the LDZ_something= both must be in your /etc/profile or /$HOME/.profile ... Let me know if you find any more info about this (or if there a separate plug-in program for Linux aside from the rvplayer 5.03b application... Jonathan -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Enlightenment and WindowMaker.
by misc.word.corp＠pobox.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Hi Matt, Thanks for the tip. I installed *bison*, and the other parser, *flex*, and managed to build libPropList without a hitch. My next issue is the WindowMaker installation, which has hit a snag, because *make* is looking for a directory (or file) called -lX11.h in /usr/i486-linux/bin, I believe. I couldn't find this via YaST. I'm going to download the "stable" version of WindowMaker (0.6.3) and try again. I think my core problem may be that I underinstalled S.u.S.E. Two steps forward, one step back. Thanks, Glenn -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by john＠totten.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

<A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? John Totten Sitka Alaska -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS write SLOW
by slk＠grace.acm.rpi.edu 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

--xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 25, Anatoli Iouditski wrote > > I got a problem with our /home > partition, mounted on NFS: > when reading files from /home we get > the transfer speed ~300-350KB/s, however, > the write access is extremely slow (24-28 KB/s). Mount it with the options rsize=8192 wsize=8192. That should significantly help performance. -- Simon Karpen karpes(a)rpi.edu slk(a)acm.rpi.edu #include <std_disclaimer.h> I don't speak for RPI in any way. Get my PGP key from: <A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc"><A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A">http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A</A>> "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Ben Franklin --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQCVAwUBNRkp82M3IvLfFy0lAQGuRQQAjJVS3bYkH7XOLqGfKBU1v2N5SOqmXwgQ JDFJQXD8F9cONrMW02hrZcJgwEtbfGDyI5j8sNEuCPbyn8VN4YeyA/JrNiN0aZEC HGpD1wzp5vqkBKfALNKckSU6Pb7N8eYKN2xixYjWtfgqxJhphxgGvDbJllLhrSao y7SWYGsonJA= =rR8d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Fat32 patch
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Hi, It just dawned on me, that my old Caldera Linux 1.1 distribution had an option in the kernel menuconfig for fat32 support, along with vfat. How come it isn't in SuSe 5.1 ? Anyone know where to get the kernel patch? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by gecko＠animalink.org 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On 25-Mar-98 Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > >On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Thorsten Jungblut wrote: > >> >> das ist jetzt bestimmt eine ganz dumme frage, >> aber: >> >> auf www.linuxhq.com bekommt man immer die neusten >> kernel-patches >> >> wie installiert man die ? (suse-linux) >> >> und wenn ich 2.0.30 habe, muss ich dann, um auf >> 2.0.32 zu kommen, den patch fuer 2.0.31 auch haben ? >> >> es gruesst >> >> ein anfaenger *schaem* > >Would someone translate please? when I hear "Kernel Patches", i'd like to >know what the person is saying.... > >thanks. > >-- >Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 ><A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> >To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. >-- My German isn't good, but he's basicly asking how to patch kernels and if he wan ted to go from 2.0.30 to 2.0.32, must he first apply 2.0.31. I would answer him but my writing German is worse than my reading German ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > zentara wrote: > > > > > > Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? > > > > In your .bashrc put "export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape"; > > that solves alot of problems. > > > > > Which .bashrc ? I found five of them when I did a $ locate .bashrc > > Also do I put the quotation marks around the > > export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape > > and the semi colon at the end? > > I found other "export entries in .bashrc that didn't have the " " and > the ; > > Just wondering, and trying to do it right. > I assumed you are using bash, most of us new users are. The .bashrc to edit is the one in the home directory of the user who is using netscape. You probably want to put it in /root also, so root has netscape running. If root dosn't have one , login as root and copy /etc/skel/.bashrc to /root/.bashrc. DONT PUT QUOTATIONS around it, they were just in the docs for clarity, which confused you. No semicolon either. Usually in docs they put " " or < > around entries or keystrokes to indicate they are to entered in exactly that way. Also after you save the new .bashrc , you must either logout and relogin as the user, or enter " source .bashrc " ; again without quotations. This tells the system to reread the new .bashrc. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Dominik Weis wrote: > >> zentara wrote: > > And I still can't get it to launch automatically from > > Netscape. It always > > wants to save to disk. This is OK though, since I usually > > get them to play better off the hard drive. > > > I think there is a small problem in the way the readme describes the > installation as a plug in. It worked for me in that way. > > When I started netscape there was an entry for RealAudio in the > application(where you enter the helper applications). > Description: RealAudio > MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio > Suffixs: ra,ram > > Application: rvplayer > > That worked for me. I couldn't get it working with the way how it was > described in the Readme. I had exactly the same problem that you have. > I hope it helps and you can understand my english. > Hi, your english is great. Better than alot of people I know.:-) I also should mention that you have to get the RVplayer somewhere in your path, for it to auto-launch from Netscape. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by roklein＠goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Hi all, >> auf www.linuxhq.com bekommt man immer die neusten >> kernel-patches >> wie installiert man die ? (suse-linux) >> und wenn ich 2.0.30 habe, muss ich dann, um auf >> 2.0.32 zu kommen, den patch fuer 2.0.31 auch haben ? >Would someone translate please? when I hear "Kernel Patches", i'd like to >know what the person is saying.... No problem. First he tells that the newest kernel patches are available from www.linuxhw.com and asks how to install them and if he needs the patch for 2.0.31 too, if he wants to upgrade his 2.0.30 kernel to 2.0.32 or only the 2.0.32 patch. The answer to the latter question is 'yes.' A patch for the linux kernel does _not_, unlike OS/2 fixpacks, include all former fixes. The patch is just a file that contains the difference between kernel version x.y.z and kernel version x.y.(z+1). To install the patch you unpack the linux kernel (usually into /usr/src/linux). Copy the patch to /usr/src and patch -p < patchfilename cd linux make config (or whatever you prefer to make) and make the kernel & install it. kind regards, Robert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] no KDE, ftp or telnet
by srr03＠tid.es 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Hi. I've just installed suse linux (from a CD that came with PCWorld), and I've seen the KDE has not installed, or, at least, the X doesn't look like they should. And I have no ftp server and no access by telnet. I thought that KDE came with de SuSE distribution, and that ftp and telnet came with any basic installation of linux. Any comment? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Thorsten Jungblut wrote: > > das ist jetzt bestimmt eine ganz dumme frage, > aber: > > auf www.linuxhq.com bekommt man immer die neusten > kernel-patches > > wie installiert man die ? (suse-linux) > > und wenn ich 2.0.30 habe, muss ich dann, um auf > 2.0.32 zu kommen, den patch fuer 2.0.31 auch haben ? > > es gruesst > > ein anfaenger *schaem* Would someone translate please? when I hear "Kernel Patches", i'd like to know what the person is saying.... thanks. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 12:58:37AM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: <snip> > Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why it was set > to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. :-) I > attempted to understan my XF86Config. I read the associated man page as well. I > still can figure out what it all means. > > How do I determine things like my refresh rate and my resolution? I think I am at > 1600X1280 X 16 bpp and 74 hz. I just don't know. What ever it is, my new > ViewSonic, G810 beats the S#$0ut of my the ViewSonic 4e that I have been using > for the last four years! The mode line is what tells the Xserver where to start drawing the lines and where to stop; This means that if you use mode lines to big for your monitor you will blow it up or at least make smoke come out the sides. There is a Document out there, might be a HOWTO, that details how to make a mode line; not for the faint of heart. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Read the back of the book dude ... mockers all wind up in the lake of fire .... LOL Seriously though, the nice thing about it is that you can have some precompiled kernels for download that are just like what the distributors are shipping, in fact that's a cool idea John - you include some pages with stock kernels from the various distributors, such as Slack, Debian, Red Hat, SuSE ... then people can also have a handy resource for install diskettes, etc... put some LILO tutorials and such on the site ... As far as support goes, it's just like any other linux effort. This imaginary - but deluxe site - would be a good idea to put a majordomo on it and let it support itself like any other newsgroup or list like this one at SuSE. SuSE's advantage would be to have this list as well as a separate list for the kernel compiler site. The kind of traffic this thing would bring would become a major resource on the net. Great idea John ... -tks- John Weekley wrote: > > > -- > Who's gonna support this mosnter ;)? "Your kernel doesn't work on my > machine! WHaaaa!!!! LOL!" > John Weekley > > -- > Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged > demo -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting)
by frolija＠texaco.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

I had the same messages under slackware, and they were pretty much harmless. I never experienced problems with my system even though I had that message pop up during boot. I THINK (I could be wrong) that it had something to do with my settings for LBA for my hard disks, etc. -----Original Message----- From: dedwards(a)technologist.com [SMTP:dedwards@technologist.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 8:33 PM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting) I sent this message a few days ago, but did not see it echo on the list, so am resending it, hoping someone has an answer! I've just compiled the kernel for the 2nd (well 2nd successfully) time. Why - the last compile, I did not use SuSE source, this time I did. I also wanted to change my MB chipset settings, and I wanted to change my sound chipset. I chose the ALI M14xx MB chipset, and the Crystal Sound Chipset. Copied the zImage to loadlin directory, set ide0-ali14xx boot parameter, moved my CDRom drive from slave on the first controller to master on the second controller. Booted okay - looking good - 2nd IDE controller access etc. Question though, in the boot messages, I get: hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS Is this bad?? - what can I do to get rid of these messages?? Also - what can I do to get mixer working on my Soundcard?? - pretty general question, I know, but maybe someone out there is a real whiz with sound, and can point me in the right direction - even if it's only to the necessary docs (and the HOWTO's seem woefully dated - maybe I'm looking in the wrong places:->) I compiled in the Crystal CS4232 sound driver - because my Sound board had chips on it with Crystal written over most of them:-)) The documentation said that there was no mixer driver available at the time that the SuSE 5.0 package ws put together, so I'm hoping that there may be one available now!! -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Brian wrote: > What about libs and modules? A subset of the site would include the module creation, libs and related kernel issues. In fact, once the modules are done for a certain kernel rev, I believe you're done, and all you'd probably need to do is provide some archive files with modules for each rev. Meaning you shouldn't have to keep recompiling modules unless they are patched / up-rev'd etc. There's lots you can do, provide docs, tutorials, etc. Just need a fast machine or machines and a reasonably fast site, since you'll be doing a lot of outbound email, ftp, and http. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by tjungblu＠uni-koblenz.de 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

das ist jetzt bestimmt eine ganz dumme frage, aber: auf www.linuxhq.com bekommt man immer die neusten kernel-patches wie installiert man die ? (suse-linux) und wenn ich 2.0.30 habe, muss ich dann, um auf 2.0.32 zu kommen, den patch fuer 2.0.31 auch haben ? es gruesst ein anfaenger *schaem* Thorsten -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Newbies, Linux newcomers, Unix gurus ... here's a nice Linux Kernel document that was written by one of the guys from DEC ...very educational - if you print it, you're looking at half a ream of paper on a non-duplexed laser printer ... and it's ~615k ... <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by weis＠dom.hws.edu 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > > TEX wrote: > >> > > Does anybody use realaudio with suse and was it hard to set up? > > > > I just got the RealPlayer 5 audio/video player and encoder for Linux. > I got it from RealAudios site as a tgz. > > I wouldn't say it was hard, but it isn't as easy as the win95 > install. > > You have to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your .bashrc or > else it will give error messages. > And I still can't get it to launch automatically from > Netscape. It always > wants to save to disk. This is OK though, since I usually > get them to play better off the hard drive. > I think there is a small problem in the way the readme describes the installation as a plug in. It worked for me in that way. When I started netscape there was an entry for RealAudio in the application(where you enter the helper applications). Description: RealAudio MIMEType: audio/x-pn-realaudio Suffixs: ra,ram Application: rvplayer That worked for me. I couldn't get it working with the way how it was described in the Readme. I had exactly the same problem that you have. I hope it helps and you can understand my english. Dominik Weis -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS write SLOW
by anatoli.iouditski＠inrialpes.fr 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

I got a problem with our /home partition, mounted on NFS: when reading files from /home we get the transfer speed ~300-350KB/s, however, the write access is extremely slow (24-28 KB/s). I tried to read/write the same partition using the close sparc host and obtained 350KB/s for both read and write. I'd like to know is it a general linux problem or smth is wrong with my installation. Thanks, Anatoli -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Beer
by pepr＠videotron.ca 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

To add to the discussion about beer here is what a friend sent me yersterday; I hope this will clarify the matter a little bit. On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, tourigny wrote: > > Yesterday, scientists revealed that beer contains small traces of female > hormones. > To prove their theory, the scientists fed 100 men 12 pints of beer and > observed that 100% > of them gained weight, talked excessively without making sense, became > emotional, > and drove poorly. > > No further testing is planned. > > > Henri Tourigny > > 514-522-2668 (Montreal) > 819-842-4544 (Magog) > tourigny(a)videotron.ca > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] printer troubles
by peter.wastl＠tks.fh-sbg.ac.at 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Hi ! I use a HP Deskjet 870Cxi but I cannot find an appropriate driver for it ! Does anyone know what I should do ? bye peter -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by jdkc＠woptura.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > p Tony, > > Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why it was set > to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. :-) Yeah, but you can't play pool at 8bpp. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Luis A. Costabile wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > I have had my system lock up twice. Both times it stopped responding to > > any kind of user input. At the same time, hard drive began to grind > > with a repeated pattern. I assumed that the system was truly locked > > because the numlock and the caps lock were not toggling the LEDs. The > > last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in > > xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than > > it scrolled. > > Steve, I posted a question about something like this a little while ago, > actually about a week ago. It happened again this morning and as soon as > I heard my hard drive going crazy I started up top and noticed "man" was > at the top of the list , but I couldn't get enough cycles to kill the > process, so I had to reset the machine. Very coincidental you were > running "man" and I had "man" pinned up there. > > Anyone??? Hubert, you mentioned a mailing list about kernel development, > is it an open list? What's the list called and how to subscribe? > > -- > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 > <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> > To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. > -- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Luis, I was actually reading a man page using xemacs. Im not sure what this does in the background. The proceses may be the same, or similar to the regular man function. I am thinking that there could have been a problem with my intellimouse and video settings. I know this sound really far fethced. I believe that this strange hypothesis is justified because I set my colors to 24 bpp and my mouse (and display) went crazy. I now have my color deapth set to 16 bpp. I have not had anothe lock up yet. We will see. Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

paulic wrote: > Andrew L. Davis wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. Unfortunately I > > > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have tried the > > > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When the pointer > > > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop looks like > > > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves netscape the > > > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this means that > > > I am changing color maps. > > > > Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 and that > > will solve your problems. > > > > -- > > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations > > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Try: > > exec X :0 -auth $HOME/.Xauthority -bpp 16 > > in your $HOME/.xserverrc file (or -bpp 32 if your card can handle it) > > <<Tony>> > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Tony, Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why it was set to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. :-) I attempted to understan my XF86Config. I read the associated man page as well. I still can figure out what it all means. How do I determine things like my refresh rate and my resolution? I think I am at 1600X1280 X 16 bpp and 74 hz. I just don't know. What ever it is, my new ViewSonic, G810 beats the S#$0ut of my the ViewSonic 4e that I have been using for the last four years! Thanks much. Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by jdkc＠woptura.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

zentara wrote: > J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > > > Something is wrong with my Netscape installation. Whenever > > I boot Netscape I get over 100 entries in the XMessage box > > that say: > > > > /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol > > 'PR_ExitMonitor' > > > > And on and on, with over 100 of the "can't resolve" entries. > > > > Also whenever I access a web site that has sound, it will > > terminate the browser. > > > > Any suggestions? (I've reinstalled it twice now.) > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? > > In your .bashrc put "export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape"; > that solves alot of problems. > > zentara Which .bashrc ? I found five of them when I did a $ locate .bashrc Also do I put the quotation marks around the export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape and the semi colon at the end? I found other "export entries in .bashrc that didn't have the " " and the ; Just wondering, and trying to do it right. Thanks again, -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] klyx Can't/Won't compile with S.u.S.E. 5.1
by jkrough＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Matthew Aylward EG201 G219 SL CKR wrote: > Jerome Krough wrote: > > > > When I run ./configure I get the following error message; checking for > > QT... configure: error: QT-1.3 (headers and libraries) not found. Please > > check your installation! I have KDE installed and it works. If I try to > > install QT I get a message saying QT is already installed. I am not > > sure what or if I should edit any of the files with klyx, The > > documentation with klyx isn't much help in this situation. Has anybody > > gotten this to work? Is there an RPM available somewhere? > > > > Jerome K. > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Hi Jerome, > I compiled klyx without trouble on my SuSE 5.1 bo last night. I have > upgraded to the qt-1.32 package though, it fixes some qt bugs and may be > what is causing the problem. It is available from: > <A HREF="http://www.troll.no/dl/"><A HREF="http://www.troll.no/dl/</A">http://www.troll.no/dl/</A</A>> > Make sure you follow the instructions about setting the right > environment variables, I got 1 wrong and of course nothing would work > till I fixed it. > Since it is in fairly early developement there is no rpm (and should not > be) yet. > Clearly I couldn't do much work with it in one night but it seemed > reasonably stable and has some nice features. Don't forget that it is > early beta, so I wouldn't run my only copy of a PhD through it yet - a > copy maybe. > > I hope this helps, > Regards, > Matt > -- > I didn't see anything about environment variables in any of the files other then configure and I didn't think from they way it was written it was meant to be modified by the user. I have qt-1.32 installed but I don't have the source files off the SuSE disk installed just the rpm. I have been trying to install klyx-0.9.2 without much luck so far. Thanks Jerome K. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] LOUt
by dedwards＠technologist.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Is there anyone else out there using the Basse-Lout document formatting package?? I find it a lot easier to use than LaTeX! I don't want to start a war on this, just trying to see if anyone knows of any templates available! TIA -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] klyx Can't/Won't compile with S.u.S.E. 5.1
by maylward＠sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Jerome Krough wrote: > > When I run ./configure I get the following error message; checking for > QT... configure: error: QT-1.3 (headers and libraries) not found. Please > check your installation! I have KDE installed and it works. If I try to > install QT I get a message saying QT is already installed. I am not > sure what or if I should edit any of the files with klyx, The > documentation with klyx isn't much help in this situation. Has anybody > gotten this to work? Is there an RPM available somewhere? > > Jerome K. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Hi Jerome, I compiled klyx without trouble on my SuSE 5.1 bo last night. I have upgraded to the qt-1.32 package though, it fixes some qt bugs and may be what is causing the problem. It is available from: <A HREF="http://www.troll.no/dl/"><A HREF="http://www.troll.no/dl/</A">http://www.troll.no/dl/</A</A>> Make sure you follow the instructions about setting the right environment variables, I got 1 wrong and of course nothing would work till I fixed it. Since it is in fairly early developement there is no rpm (and should not be) yet. Clearly I couldn't do much work with it in one night but it seemed reasonably stable and has some nice features. Don't forget that it is early beta, so I wouldn't run my only copy of a PhD through it yet - a copy maybe. I hope this helps, Regards, Matt -- Matt Aylward Dept of Geography (GIS), UWA email: maylward(a)sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au Linux Lover and GIS Geek ..............LINUX..................... OS for the people by the people -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

TEX wrote: >> > Does anybody use realaudio with suse and was it hard to set up? > I just got the RealPlayer 5 audio/video player and encoder for Linux. I got it from RealAudios site as a tgz. I wouldn't say it was hard, but it isn't as easy as the win95 install. You have to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your .bashrc or else it will give error messages. And I still can't get it to launch automatically from Netscape. It always wants to save to disk. This is OK though, since I usually get them to play better off the hard drive. It plays all the RealAudio files, and the .rm video files. I was interested in it because it's hard to find a video format that plays on windows, unix, and mac. The newer windows codec don't work for avi's under linux. Uncompressed avi's work, but are huge. And there are all sorts of mismatches between windows video mpegs, and linux mpegs. The .rm movie player does indeed play on Linux, but even at the highest quality settings; it was more like a slideshow than a movie. At the T1 setting, I get an error message saying too many dropped frames. I only have a slow pentium 75 with 64 Meg ram. The encoder for windows95 is very nice and works. But the encoder for linux is just a command line interface. I didn't bother to test it. Hey it's free.... can't complain. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Enlightenment and WindowMaker.
by maylward＠sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Hi Glenn, I hope you have not been waiting too long for my reply, we have been off line for a bit. See specific comments below. misc.word.corp wrote: > > Matt, > > Thanks. All these apps and modules (wmmixer ant the like) are making me > very tempted, but when I tried to install libPropList (necessary for WM) > this afternoon . . . no luck. I ran ./configure, and it looked for > "bison" (answer: no)then ran make, and it compained about the *absence* > of bison. Back to the drawing board, I guess. Bison is a parser thing that should be installed on your system if you intend to compile lots of apps. It is included on all versions of SuSE and I would imagine most Linux distributions. Have a look using YaST under the development catagories, it is there. If you install that WMaker should compile without problems. > Anyway, there's no necessity to send screenshots, but if you have a your > copy of the .xinitrc, I'd love to have that . . . Sorry, I made a copy on a floppy last night then left the damn thing on me desk as I ran out the door this morning. If you get WMaker to compile then run the wmaker.inst script as it says in the install notes. This sets up a directory called "GNUstep" in $HOME with all the files that you can personalise. It also writes a wmaker-specific .xinitrc in $HOME and backs up your old one to $HOME/xinitrc.todays-date, e.g., xinitrc.032598 for today. I make a copy of this as xinitrc.orig and a copy of the wmaker one as xinitrc.WM, then depending if I want to use wmaker or one of the SuSE supported ones I do either : "cp xinitrc.WM .xinitrc" or "cp xinitrc.orig .xinitrc" before I "startx". Setting the environment variable $WINDOWMANAGER is better but both methods have the same affect. I WILL send you my .xinitrc tomorrow. > > BTW, does anybody at S.u.S.E. who's reading this happen to know if > WindowMaker is included on 5.2? (I may not have it compiled and > installed by the time the CD is out). > > Thanks again, > > Glenn I hope you can get windowmaker going, it is worth the effort. Do let me know how it goes, I am happy to help if I can. Regards, Matt -- Matt Aylward Dept of Geography (GIS), UWA email: maylward(a)sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au Linux Lover and GIS Geek ..............LINUX..................... OS for the people by the people -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting)
by dedwards＠technologist.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

I sent this message a few days ago, but did not see it echo on the list, so am resending it, hoping someone has an answer! I've just compiled the kernel for the 2nd (well 2nd successfully) time. Why - the last compile, I did not use SuSE source, this time I did. I also wanted to change my MB chipset settings, and I wanted to change my sound chipset. I chose the ALI M14xx MB chipset, and the Crystal Sound Chipset. Copied the zImage to loadlin directory, set ide0-ali14xx boot parameter, moved my CDRom drive from slave on the first controller to master on the second controller. Booted okay - looking good - 2nd IDE controller access etc. Question though, in the boot messages, I get: hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS Is this bad?? - what can I do to get rid of these messages?? Also - what can I do to get mixer working on my Soundcard?? - pretty general question, I know, but maybe someone out there is a real whiz with sound, and can point me in the right direction - even if it's only to the necessary docs (and the HOWTO's seem woefully dated - maybe I'm looking in the wrong places:->) I compiled in the Crystal CS4232 sound driver - because my Sound board had chips on it with Crystal written over most of them:-)) The documentation said that there was no mixer driver available at the time that the SuSE 5.0 package ws put together, so I'm hoping that there may be one available now!! -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] CGI-Scripts
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Thorsten Habich wrote: > > Hi, > I've a problem getting CGI-Scripts running what may be wrong. > > CU > > Thorsten Hi, When you first start out, it is easy to make a mistake linking to the cgi-bin. Say you make a link on your index.html to /usr/local/httpsd/cgi-bin/test-cgi. It won't work. You have to make the link to /cgi-bin/test-cgi. This is for security. The wwwrun user lives in /usr/local/httpsd and can't get out, (up the directory tree). So /httpdocs and /cgi-bin are on the same level. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by root＠blunted.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Well dont know about the other stuff but you can get realaudio for linux from www.real.com. You wanna get RealPlayer 5.0. Its pretty easy just make sure to follow the instructions that come in the Readme. --- - - - - Jose Travieso <admin(a)blunted.net> System Administrator <<A HREF="http://www.blunted.net"><A HREF="http://www.blunted.net</A">http://www.blunted.net</A</A>>> Blunted Networks <<A HREF="http://www.hacked.org"><A HREF="http://www.hacked.org</A">http://www.hacked.org</A</A>>> - - - - --- On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, TEX wrote: > > Red Hat had a sndconfig command that would set and test your sound > card. When Linus spoke, the sound card was working the cdroms would > play cds and the games would make noise. I would also like to have some > noises for keyboard happenings, like got mail and stuff.. How do I > configure sound? > > Does anybody use realaudio with suse and was it hard to set up? > > I have a non scsi Mustek scanner and wondered if the must software > package will run it. > > I also cannot get my screensavers to come on randomly after a few > minutes. > > > > > > > > thanks A Million. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Red Hat had a sndconfig command that would set and test your sound card. When Linus spoke, the sound card was working the cdroms would play cds and the games would make noise. I would also like to have some noises for keyboard happenings, like got mail and stuff.. How do I configure sound? Does anybody use realaudio with suse and was it hard to set up? I have a non scsi Mustek scanner and wondered if the must software package will run it. I also cannot get my screensavers to come on randomly after a few minutes. thanks A Million. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 05:22:40PM -0500, zentara wrote: > > Andrew L. Davis wrote: > > > > zentara wrote: > > > You can get linux running with only about 15 megs of space. > > > > > > If you are interested go to: > > > <A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html"><A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A">http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A</A>> > > > > > > The one question I would like to toss out, is what is the bare minimum > > > system needed to boot with NFS support? > > > > > > Besides the kernel, what configuration files are absolutely > > > neccesary for linux to run? And what executables do you need? > > > Of course bash, but what else? > > > > You can get Linux to boot off of a floppy and mount it's root partion over > > NFS. I do not know how fast this is but can really expand the number of > > computers one can make useable. > > > > You mean if you had floppy set up right, you could theoretically > boot a win95 machine with it. Mount the root filesystem > via NFS, on the dos partition, with UMSDOS built into the floppy > kernel? > Is this floppy creation basically the same as the "mini-how-to" > on Boot Disks"? Or is there some special way to buid these floppies. > > I made a boot and root floppy with YAST, and the boot floppy > could be mounted as a minix filesystem and looked at. But the > root floppy was some unknown filesystem. > How do they make it? Is it an image which is loaded into ramdisk? What I think happens is that the boot image loads the kernal and then uses bootp to find the nfs server then mounts the exported directory as / that is the root directory! All that you need is a floppy, MB w/ CPU, case, network card, video, and memory! No harddrive needed! The root disk is basicaly gzipped so that you can, in theory, have a 3MB root file system. The Boot Disk HOWTO details how to do this; I would not call it difficult, but definitely not for the faint of heart. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by weekleyj＠fastrans.net 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Brian wrote: > > What about libs and modules? > > Tom wrote: > > > Now here's an idea I've had for some time .... maybe the folks at SuSE would be > > interested in setting this up at their site. This idea would definitely bring > > traffic to their site - all Linux users would benefit - no matter what dist they > > use. > > > > What would really be nice is if someone on a fast backbone were to build a > > "Kernel Compiler Web Site". > > > > Users could, using a web form based upon various kernel revs, submit an order to > > the site, have a kernel compiled and either e-mailed or sitting in a 'pickup > > directory' once it's completed. The resulting kernel would be in a tar.gz file with > > a copy of the .config file you submitted. > > > > The site could be paid for with banner ads and or subscriptions. > > > > Plus, folks on slower machines could take advantage of a faster machine to get a > > custom kernel direct from the net. As you think about it, the benefits start > > explaining themselves. > > > > If you set up a subscription service, subscibers could have the next rev of the > > Linux kernel delivered upon release, based upon subsciber information which would > > include a working .config file for however many systems you have subscribed. A base > > subscription might include 3 different .configs. > > > > And then, once the site is working and debugged, you could make a bundle out of it > > and include it with every distribution, thus, more folks could set up a link with > > ready made pages for their own kernel compiler web sites .... > > > > -tks- > > > > > > -- Who's gonna support this mosnter ;)? "Your kernel doesn't work on my machine! WHaaaa!!!! LOL!" John Weekley -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Mounting the swap partition
by zentara＠mindspring.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Hi, Is it possible to mount your swap partition as a filesystem? Is there another way to look at it? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Win & Netscape pblms
by w5lon＠inetport.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

I am running SuSE Linux 5.1 on a machine with a 486DX4-100 processor, 36 Mb RAM and use a Tseng Labs ET4000W32p_revd accel card. X-Win(fvwm2) appears to run normally. Then I run Netscape (successfully). When I shut down X-Win, fonts in the command mode are all trashed and I must reboot if I am to continue using the machine, even though I am able to shutdown normally using the three finger salute. I did add Option "xaa_no_color_exp" under the Device section of XF86Config and I do use XSuSE_Tseng with the appropriate X link. Anyone out there with a similar experience that was able to correct it? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by zentara＠mindspring.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Andrew L. Davis wrote: > > zentara wrote: > > You can get linux running with only about 15 megs of space. > > > > If you are interested go to: > > <A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html"><A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A">http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A</A>> > > > > The one question I would like to toss out, is what is the bare minimum > > system needed to boot with NFS support? > > > > Besides the kernel, what configuration files are absolutely > > neccesary for linux to run? And what executables do you need? > > Of course bash, but what else? > > You can get Linux to boot off of a floppy and mount it's root partion over > NFS. I do not know how fast this is but can really expand the number of > computers one can make useable. > You mean if you had floppy set up right, you could theoretically boot a win95 machine with it. Mount the root filesystem via NFS, on the dos partition, with UMSDOS built into the floppy kernel? Is this floppy creation basically the same as the "mini-how-to" on Boot Disks"? Or is there some special way to buid these floppies. I made a boot and root floppy with YAST, and the boot floppy could be mounted as a minix filesystem and looked at. But the root floppy was some unknown filesystem. How do they make it? Is it an image which is loaded into ramdisk? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in > > xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than > > it scrolled. > > Steve, I posted a question about something like this a little while ago, > actually about a week ago. It happened again this morning and as soon as > I heard my hard drive going crazy I started up top and noticed "man" was > at the top of the list , but I couldn't get enough cycles to kill the > process, so I had to reset the machine. Very coincidental you were > running "man" and I had "man" pinned up there. I showed the following to someone in another mailing list... Mar 24 13:14:57 lac kernel: Unable to load interpreter They responded, and I quote... "You're running a perl script somewhere that doesn't have the correct path to the perl binary in the header." I immediately thought of cron.daily, but doesn't make sense because I have the cron.daily commented out in my /etc/crontab file and I'm not running any other perl scripts. Does SuSE do anything with perl scripts after someone does a 'man' ie. uncompressing stuff? -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] klyx Can't/Won't compile with S.u.S.E. 5.1
by unknown＠example.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 10:18:58AM -0600, Jerome Krough wrote: > > When I run ./configure I get the following error message; checking for > QT... configure: error: QT-1.3 (headers and libraries) not found. Please > check your installation! I have KDE installed and it works. If I try to > install QT I get a message saying QT is already installed. I am not > sure what or if I should edit any of the files with klyx, The > documentation with klyx isn't much help in this situation. Has anybody > gotten this to work? Is there an RPM available somewhere? > I recompiled all of the KDE files for the base installation. You need to grab the QT source with header files and such. I downloaded the file qt-1.32.tar.gz from <A HREF="http://www.troll.no/dl"><A HREF="http://www.troll.no/dl</A">http://www.troll.no/dl</A</A>>. I simply installed the source under /usr/local/qt and followed the directions. I don't remember the filename, because I renamed it. I now have two different qt libs installed. Bad? I don't know. This email just reminded me that maybe I should try to remove the older libs, but things have been running okay. If you have problems getting the installation instructions I can send them to you. Luck, Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Installation onto multiple drives
by OLamar＠aris.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

How do I install the complete suse 5.1 distribution (3.x GB) onto three 1.6 GB drives? It asks me for the mount point which I specify as follows: /dev/hda1 / 1.6 GB /dev/hda2 /usr 1.6 GB /dev/hda3 Thanks, Otis Lamar olamar(a)aris.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] CGI-Scripts
by antares.mckill＠cww.de 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Hi, I've a problem getting CGI-Scripts running what may be wrong. CU Thorsten -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by slk＠grace.acm.rpi.edu 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

--KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 23, Steven T. Hatton wrote > > That is not a bad idea. I have never had problems with lockups while running NT on > the same system for over a year. That doesn't mean that I am not experiencing a > coincidental power fluctuation problem. I do notice that my monitor sometimes > shimmers at 60 Hz. I believe this is due to dirty house current. Will something > like an APC UPS clean up the wave form? An APC or Best Power UPS will clean that up considerablyu, though 60hz is also pretty low. Can you do 70, or are you limited by your hardware? If you have dirty house current, you *need* to be on a decent UPS. > > I'm still a bit suspicious of the mouse driver. My mouse it definitely acting > flakey. > > Steve > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Simon Karpen karpes(a)rpi.edu slk(a)acm.rpi.edu #include <std_disclaimer.h> I don't speak for RPI in any way. "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Ben Franklin --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQCUAwUBNRgWAGM3IvLfFy0lAQEpAAP2I8g0jUg1ovHTqzb6jj45y+NSofvXNA3U egcvqqpqZ4FD+FuGXuzZkrVuccDEorVfo9RHqt9iJflVo3t9NroERTGu7B5NB6ZB 3mVkzr2UfkfneiN5z0UOjTwDNpxItk37MF7DWpS29u188HszFLcBRjH99G0hywwq ySBtSC1ekw== =VqOL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Convert with a Question about RPMs
by bb＠suse.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > > FSSTD = File System Standard - there is a Linux file system standard, and all > the distributors say they're following it. The FSSTD isn't as complete as some people would like it. It gives some rules of do's and dont's, but leaves a lot of open questions... The main things are: * Config files in /etc * /usr must be mountable read only, so no changing files here.. (thats the reason for the weird X11 links: /usr/X11R6/bin/X -> /var/X11R6/bin/X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_* In this way you can change yopur X server without writing to /usr. Needed when you export /usr to clients etc...) * Keep /usr/local free for user installed applictions (I know, we use /usr/local/ftp and /usr/local/http ...) * .... We try to follow FSSTD as good as we can, but because of historic resons some things not where they should to be. We are working on this... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 12:26:49PM -0500, zentara wrote: > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > > Now here's an idea I've had for some time .... maybe the folks at SuSE would be > > interested in setting this up at their site. This idea would definitely bring > > traffic to their site - all Linux users would benefit - no matter what dist they > > use. > > > > What would really be nice is if someone on a fast backbone were to build a > > "Kernel Compiler Web Site". > > > > Users could, using a web form based upon various kernel revs, submit an order to > > the site, have a kernel compiled and either e-mailed or sitting in a 'pickup > > directory' once it's completed. The resulting kernel would be in a tar.gz file with > > a copy of the .config file you submitted. > > > > I did see something similar already called doslinux. > It is a mini-linux distribution with the 2.033 kernel, > fits on 6 floppies, and runs on a dos partition under the > UMSDOS file system. > > It has 2 kernels , eide and scsi; and it has all the > modules available to download. > > You can get linux running with only about 15 megs of space. > > If you are interested go to: > <A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html"><A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A">http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A</A>> > > The one question I would like to toss out, is what is the bare minimum > system needed to boot with NFS support? > > Besides the kernel, what configuration files are absolutely > neccesary for linux to run? And what executables do you need? > Of course bash, but what else? You can get Linux to boot off of a floppy and mount it's root partion over NFS. I do not know how fast this is but can really expand the number of computers one can make useable. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > All, > > I have had my system lock up twice. Both times it stopped responding to > any kind of user input. At the same time, hard drive began to grind > with a repeated pattern. I assumed that the system was truly locked > because the numlock and the caps lock were not toggling the LEDs. The > last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in > xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than > it scrolled. Steve, I posted a question about something like this a little while ago, actually about a week ago. It happened again this morning and as soon as I heard my hard drive going crazy I started up top and noticed "man" was at the top of the list , but I couldn't get enough cycles to kill the process, so I had to reset the machine. Very coincidental you were running "man" and I had "man" pinned up there. Anyone??? Hubert, you mentioned a mailing list about kernel development, is it an open list? What's the list called and how to subscribe? -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[SuSE Linux] Installing via NFS
by mstriani＠cvtci.com.ar 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2> <FONT color=#000000>I ordered Linux SuSE 6.0 but I did not install it yet.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><FONT color=#000000></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2> I have a Pentium 150 with 32mb and NO CD drive, but I have a eth card and SuSE 5.1 installed, how can I upgrade to 6.0, I´ll need to format my hdd because I ´ll have not a swap partition and the Linux partition is about 600 mb</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > Something is wrong with my Netscape installation. Whenever > I boot Netscape I get over 100 entries in the XMessage box > that say: > > /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol > 'PR_ExitMonitor' > > And on and on, with over 100 of the "can't resolve" entries. > > Also whenever I access a web site that has sound, it will > terminate the browser. > > Any suggestions? (I've reinstalled it twice now.) > > Thanks in advance. > > Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? In your .bashrc put "export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape"; that solves alot of problems. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] xv problem
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Hi all; Lately I've been having a problem with xv. I am trying to use the -loadclear option when I change my X win backgrounds. I.E. I want the rainbow effect. But no matter what I do xv first clears the screen. I found today that when I end my X win program this error is on the screen up to 10 or 12 times. hostname: Host name lookup failure Does this have anything to do with my xv problem? It only shows up when I use xv. Thanks for your help! JIM ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________ Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned, as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that none of them on board was a Princess. --- Harlan Ellison, InterZone -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by zentara＠mindspring.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > > Now here's an idea I've had for some time .... maybe the folks at SuSE would be > interested in setting this up at their site. This idea would definitely bring > traffic to their site - all Linux users would benefit - no matter what dist they > use. > > What would really be nice is if someone on a fast backbone were to build a > "Kernel Compiler Web Site". > > Users could, using a web form based upon various kernel revs, submit an order to > the site, have a kernel compiled and either e-mailed or sitting in a 'pickup > directory' once it's completed. The resulting kernel would be in a tar.gz file with > a copy of the .config file you submitted. > I did see something similar already called doslinux. It is a mini-linux distribution with the 2.033 kernel, fits on 6 floppies, and runs on a dos partition under the UMSDOS file system. It has 2 kernels , eide and scsi; and it has all the modules available to download. You can get linux running with only about 15 megs of space. If you are interested go to: <A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html"><A HREF="http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A">http://gwyn.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/index.html</A</A>> The one question I would like to toss out, is what is the bare minimum system needed to boot with NFS support? Besides the kernel, what configuration files are absolutely neccesary for linux to run? And what executables do you need? Of course bash, but what else? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by srr03＠tid.es 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Have you tried to download a new version (4.04)? J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > Something is wrong with my Netscape installation. Whenever > I boot Netscape I get over 100 entries in the XMessage box > that say: > > /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol > 'PR_ExitMonitor' > > And on and on, with over 100 of the "can't resolve" entries. > > Also whenever I access a web site that has sound, it will > terminate the browser. > > Any suggestions? (I've reinstalled it twice now.) > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Santi -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] klyx Can't/Won't compile with S.u.S.E. 5.1
by jkrough＠mindspring.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

When I run ./configure I get the following error message; checking for QT... configure: error: QT-1.3 (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! I have KDE installed and it works. If I try to install QT I get a message saying QT is already installed. I am not sure what or if I should edit any of the files with klyx, The documentation with klyx isn't much help in this situation. Has anybody gotten this to work? Is there an RPM available somewhere? Jerome K. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Convert with a Question about RPMs
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

FSSTD = File System Standard - there is a Linux file system standard, and all the distributors say they're following it. FSSTD is essentially the guiding doc that specifies the location of every file on the system. No I don't know where it is .. probably need to browse <A HREF="http://www.linux.org"><A HREF="http://www.linux.org</A">http://www.linux.org</A</A>> or the Linux Journal site. For example to put "messages" into /var/adm/messages vs /var/log/messages. I'm not sure which is "right", I know of two distributors that say they're using FSSTD and they have messages in different locations.Slack puts the public ftp directory into /home/ftp. SuSE uses /usr/local/ftp. Slack had been putting apache into /var/lib/httpd, SuSE - hell I don't remember where it is. SAMBA wants /usr/local/samba, but I see it all over the map. Samba wants a /usr/local/samba/lib dir, SuSE is putting smb.conf it in /etc. And why would Slack pick /var/lib. To me, a /lib dir is a directory that has libraries. But I've seen a subtle unix tradition to re-define things and so a lib dir is for config files *sometimes*. And then you're supposed to just know that. It's stuff like that that makes simple installs take much longer than is necessary. Leaves you wondering where you should install new apps. Some sites stick to /usr/local, others hate /usr/local and want everything in /opt. Since Unix is rather religious about files and where they go, I am a bit disturbed by this. Although it would be nice to be able to collapse the entire os directory structure under a /linux root tree, just like Windows does with their \windows directory, with all of the os dirs under that, it will probably never happen since such a drastic change would cause major problems. Then you could create whatever apps directories you wanted to right off the root tree. That too would be politically incorrect. And one of the most confusing things about Unix is the convoluted directory structure. Just look at the mess that the weirdos at the XFree86 compound (I say compound because it has to be some weird cult) came up with for X Windows. You have so many unnecessary and complicated links and double-secret-subnested directories as to make administration a mess. Whatever happend to just keeping things simple! -tks- Jim Hodgers wrote: > At 08:20 AM 3/24/98 -0500, you wrote: > > It might help us Newbies to explain just what "FSSTD" is... > Jim > ...Spider Veloce's forever... > > > > >Bodo, > > > >Is there a "FSSTD" flag in the rpm utility? If not then perhaps there should > >be, then rpm would have a builtin safety ... > > > > > >Bodo Bauer wrote: > > > >> We use RPM version 2.4.10 (S.u.S.E. Linux 5.1) and it's the same one > >> RedHat uses, we don't have a special rpm format. As long as the packages > >> don't contain any Redhat or Yggdrasil specials and they conform to > >> the FSSTD it should not be a problem to install them on S.u.S.E. linux. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by jdkc＠woptura.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Something is wrong with my Netscape installation. Whenever I boot Netscape I get over 100 entries in the XMessage box that say: /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol 'PR_ExitMonitor' And on and on, with over 100 of the "can't resolve" entries. Also whenever I access a web site that has sound, it will terminate the browser. Any suggestions? (I've reinstalled it twice now.) Thanks in advance. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Convert with a Question about RPMs
by alfiesty＠chaffee.net 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

At 08:20 AM 3/24/98 -0500, you wrote: It might help us Newbies to explain just what "FSSTD" is... Jim ...Spider Veloce's forever... > >Bodo, > >Is there a "FSSTD" flag in the rpm utility? If not then perhaps there should >be, then rpm would have a builtin safety ... > > >Bodo Bauer wrote: > >> We use RPM version 2.4.10 (S.u.S.E. Linux 5.1) and it's the same one >> RedHat uses, we don't have a special rpm format. As long as the packages >> don't contain any Redhat or Yggdrasil specials and they conform to >> the FSSTD it should not be a problem to install them on S.u.S.E. linux. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Convert with a Question about RPMs
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Bodo, Is there a "FSSTD" flag in the rpm utility? If not then perhaps there should be, then rpm would have a builtin safety ... Bodo Bauer wrote: > We use RPM version 2.4.10 (S.u.S.E. Linux 5.1) and it's the same one > RedHat uses, we don't have a special rpm format. As long as the packages > don't contain any Redhat or Yggdrasil specials and they conform to > the FSSTD it should not be a problem to install them on S.u.S.E. linux. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] list archive/modem config?
by paulic＠sprint.ca 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Michael Galloway wrote: > good day all ... > > first, is there an archive available for this list? > > second. i could you some basic instruction on configuring > the modem on my system (suse 5.1/micron millenia) to use > ppp/dhcp. yast sure made configuring the ethernet adapter > a snap, is there a way to let yast do the same with the > modem? > > tia! > > -- > -- michael > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e I recently had the wonderful experience of trying to connect my Linux box to Sprint's internet service. Despite repeated assurances by Sprint's tech service that it couldn't be done, I finally succeeded, but I needed to use the pppsetup program that I found in one of the archives. Hope it helps. <<Tony>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by paulic＠sprint.ca 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Andrew L. Davis wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > Michael, > > > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. Unfortunately I > > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have tried the > > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When the pointer > > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop looks like > > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves netscape the > > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this means that > > I am changing color maps. > > Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 and that > will solve your problems. > > -- > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Try: exec X :0 -auth $HOME/.Xauthority -bpp 16 in your $HOME/.xserverrc file (or -bpp 32 if your card can handle it) <<Tony>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: AOL
by pwlwcz＠ibm.net 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > Yes, the AOL *JAVA* and the ICQ *JAVA* for Linux - both run fine. > > These are real Java apps ... and as such require JRE or JDK installed. > > To install: > > Download software from their sites: > AOL = <A HREF="http://www.aol.com"><A HREF="http://www.aol.com</A">http://www.aol.com</A</A>> > ICQ = <A HREF="http://www.mirabilis.com"><A HREF="http://www.mirabilis.com</A">http://www.mirabilis.com</A</A>> Tom, Thanks. I installed the AOL Instant Messenger as you described and it went perfectly. Thanks again for the help. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
by adam＠digitalskies.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

fuckoff -----Original Message----- From: Bodo Bauer <bb(a)suse.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:24 AM Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: > >Ruud de Bruin wrote: >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1) Has somebody already installed a beta of 'icq' and is a rpm file >> already available? >> >> 2) I have read SuSE 5.2 (german) will be available starting 25 March. I've >> read no announcement of the english international version. Is there >> already a release date known? > >The international (english) version will be available mid april. :) > >Ciao, > BB >-- >Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 >bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 ><A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
by adam＠digitalskies.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

fuckoff -----Original Message----- From: Bodo Bauer <bb(a)suse.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:24 AM Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: > >Ruud de Bruin wrote: >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1) Has somebody already installed a beta of 'icq' and is a rpm file >> already available? >> >> 2) I have read SuSE 5.2 (german) will be available starting 25 March. I've >> read no announcement of the english international version. Is there >> already a release date known? > >The international (english) version will be available mid april. :) > >Ciao, > BB >-- >Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 >bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 ><A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by jdkc＠woptura.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Here is the last part of my <make zImage> after I compiled my kernel. What did I do wrong? I only have sound on Tkdesk, and "workman". > gcc -D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer > -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 > -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o > sound_switch.o sound_switch.c > sound_switch.c: In function `init_status': > sound_switch.c:97: parse error before `SOUND_CONFIG_DATE' > make[2]: *** [sound_switch.o] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers/sound' > make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3/drivers' > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 "Ich trank was !!??" Socrates -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Package managment
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

YaST -- Choose/Install Packages --- Install Packages --- Source: (press down arrow and select the directory that contains the rpm you would like to install) XRPM -- gui interface to the RPM command (comes with SuSE) mc TEX wrote: > Is there a control panel or other way to do rpms in SuSE.. The guiier > the better. > I need to get netscape communicator off of my cheapbyted cd into suse. > > Thanks > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ICQ
by gecko＠freecar.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Check for your ICQ_HOME and JAVA_HOME environment variables... or the paths specified in the ICQ script On 24-Mar-98 Ruud de Bruin wrote: > >I am trying to install ICQ on SuSE Linux 5.1. Running ICQ from an xterm >window gives the error message: "Error loading Images and Sounds". > >Any idea how I can solve this? > >Regards, Ruud > >-- >The average woman would rather have beauty than brains because the average >man can see better than he can think. > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ICQ
by rdebruin＠willow.demon.nl 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

I am trying to install ICQ on SuSE Linux 5.1. Running ICQ from an xterm window gives the error message: "Error loading Images and Sounds". Any idea how I can solve this? Regards, Ruud -- The average woman would rather have beauty than brains because the average man can see better than he can think. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Multi Home Linux Box
by gecko＠freecar.com 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

On 24-Mar-98 Ural Altay wrote: >during the boot time. I included both of the IP addresses in the >/etc/rc.config file as pointed and I also entered the static routes that I >need in the /etc/route.conf too. But when booting the ifconfig does >initialize only the eth0 and that's why the /sbin/route command produces Just out of curiosity, in the YAST network configuration, there is a place to idicate the number of network devices... should be set from _1 to _1 _2. That's used in a for/next type loop it'll append the extentions to the other variables as it processes the network configuration. ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Multi Home Linux Box
by ural＠sni.com.tr 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

Hi, I just got the SuSE after being a slakware user for couple of years and I am really impressed by the very rich variety of packages included in the distribution. I tried to move my working system on the newly installed SuSE 5.1 and more or less it was successful. I am not done yet but there is a problem I faced and solved it in a way that I didn't like myself :). Well the PC has two ethernet cards and as you know SuSE is a bit different from slakware when it comes to the rc scripts that are being executed during the boot time. I included both of the IP addresses in the /etc/rc.config file as pointed and I also entered the static routes that I need in the /etc/route.conf too. But when booting the ifconfig does initialize only the eth0 and that's why the /sbin/route command produces bunch of errors since ifconfig has not brought up the second ethernet at all. As far as I read in the few documentation that I had the chance so far it is said that defining the interfaces in the /etc/rc.config is enough but unfortunately it doesn't work :(. So I entered a very custop line in the /sbin/network script that is bringing up the second ethernet too. and then it all works fine. Does it have to be that way or am I doing something wrong. Or does it have to do anything with the new bash? And if so how shall I change the /sbin/network script to match the requirements. Any help is greatly appreciated :) Thanks in advance and have a nice day. Ural -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by netsomni＠fastrans.net 24 Mar '98

24 Mar '98

What about libs and modules? Tom wrote: > Now here's an idea I've had for some time .... maybe the folks at SuSE would be > interested in setting this up at their site. This idea would definitely bring > traffic to their site - all Linux users would benefit - no matter what dist they > use. > > What would really be nice is if someone on a fast backbone were to build a > "Kernel Compiler Web Site". > > Users could, using a web form based upon various kernel revs, submit an order to > the site, have a kernel compiled and either e-mailed or sitting in a 'pickup > directory' once it's completed. The resulting kernel would be in a tar.gz file with > a copy of the .config file you submitted. > > The site could be paid for with banner ads and or subscriptions. > > Plus, folks on slower machines could take advantage of a faster machine to get a > custom kernel direct from the net. As you think about it, the benefits start > explaining themselves. > > If you set up a subscription service, subscibers could have the next rev of the > Linux kernel delivered upon release, based upon subsciber information which would > include a working .config file for however many systems you have subscribed. A base > subscription might include 3 different .configs. > > And then, once the site is working and debugged, you could make a bundle out of it > and include it with every distribution, thus, more folks could set up a link with > ready made pages for their own kernel compiler web sites .... > > -tks- > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
by gecko＠freecar.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On 23-Mar-98 Someone wrote: > 1) Has somebody already installed a beta of 'icq' and is a rpm file > already available? I have a verson if ICQ-Java running... no RPM, though. ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
by bb＠suse.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Ruud de Bruin wrote: > > Two questions: > > 1) Has somebody already installed a beta of 'icq' and is a rpm file > already available? > > 2) I have read SuSE 5.2 (german) will be available starting 25 March. I've > read no announcement of the english international version. Is there > already a release date known? The international (english) version will be available mid april. :) Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SIOCADDRT and SIOCSIFADDR errors
by bb＠suse.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Donn Washburn wrote: > > Hey Groups: > > I have a complete lack of understanding what is > wrong with my "eth0" network on 2 machines. > > First I always set linuxrc up with a network card > (ne = io=0x6100 irq=11) and it seems that SuSE finds > that card during normal bootup. So I assume that > it is loaded in the kernel. It shows up on the > bootup messages just after mounting the hard drive > partitions along with Donald Beckers address saying > it was found. > > Problem is if I do a "ifconfig /dev/eth0 > 192.168.##.##" I get a error "SIOCSIFADDR: No such > device" > Checking my two machines for "l /dev/et*" - > "No > such file or directory". It appears that SuSE > didn't make the device drivers (ex. mknod /dev/eth# > # #). > > As I recall from version 5.0 SuSE (Linuxrc and Yast) > created the device driver. "find" is unable to > locate it. > It is in "/etc/conf.modules" as "alias eth0 ne" > which is "options ne io=0x6100 > irq=11". > > I can add it using mknod but I am not sure of the > major/minor number ( I also think of it as a block > device) > > Any suggestions? How and/or where did I go wrong? Hi, for the network interfaces no pseudo files are needed in /dev. Do a 'cat /proc/net/dev' to see which network devices are available: Goldengate:/root # cat /proc/net/dev Inter-| Receive | Transmit face |packets errs drop fifo frame|packets errs drop fifo colls carrier lo:8010044 0 0 0 0 8010044 0 0 0 0 0 cisco0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 cisco1:25116439 0 6088 0 0 29572731 0 0 0 0 0 cisco1:1:25078475 0 0 0 0 29541906 0 0 0 0 0 cisco1:2: 8177 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 cisco1:3: 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 cisco1:4: 83 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 eth0:1367773 0 0 0 0 1491726 0 0 0 12217 1 eth0:1: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 You see I have 3 physical devices (cisco0, cisco1 and eth0), one loopback (lo) and several virtual devices on top of cisco1 and eth0. Don't use ifconfig with '/dev/eth*', use i.e. 'ifconfig eth0' to see or set the device parameters. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New Convert with a Question about RPMs
by bb＠suse.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Mark Wagnon wrote: > > Hey all- > > I just switched to SuSE from Red Hat and I have to say that it's really > nice for things to work right out of the box! > > Anyway, I was wondering what the difference is between SuSE RPMs and Red > Hat RPMs? Are they of the same format? Can I install RPMs from Red Hat > and/or Yggdrasil (sp?) on my system and not worry if any files were > misplaced? We use RPM version 2.4.10 (S.u.S.E. Linux 5.1) and it's the same one RedHat uses, we don't have a special rpm format. As long as the packages don't contain any Redhat or Yggdrasil specials and they conform to the FSSTD it should not be a problem to install them on S.u.S.E. linux. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ghostview, and Apsfilter
by dedwards＠technologist.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Thanks to all who replied - lots of good tips Still disappointed I can't get apsfilter SETUP working though - I seem to remember when I used it with Slackware (18mths ago) I could set the number of lines/cols to print on each page as well as the page size - seems like I need to do a little more digging into DOCS to try to remember what parms. to set. Thanks again. -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling kernels for other machines
by zentara＠mindspring.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Ural Altay wrote: > > I didn't mean it to be compiled under X. What I was trying to figure out > is why the display could not be opened. So I thought that maybe after the > compilation and installing of the new kernel, the system was about to run > in X and since the memory is not enough it may had hard time initializing > and that's why it could have produced the `unable to open display` :). > But of course I do not insist it is the case :) > > Ural > > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Mike Hostetler wrote: > > > > > > > I actually have a 486/sx and the advice below is good . . . but never, > > ever try to compile the kernel in X. It will take *forever*. I always > > go to single user mode (runlevel s, in SuSE) but if that isn't desirable, > > use runlevel 2. > > > > - mikeh > > > > > > > > > > If your 486 is an SX then make sure you enable teh Math emulation. Also > > > make sure the configuration matches your 486 hardware than the pentium. > > > The PCI bus etc. I am not quite an expert but "could not open Display" may > > > be caused because of no memory while loading the X since you mentioned the > > > 486 is minimum RAM. Try to boot in another run level. Like for example run > > > level 2. > > > The guru's may correct me if I am wrong :) > > > Well there seems to be some confusion here. I would compile the kernel on a pentium, then transfer it to the 486. Upon booting it on the 486, I get either an "automatic reboot"; which indicates a complete boot failure. Or, I get it to uncompress and start, then say "unable to open display". This isn't an X display. It can't open the vga, and just halts. It is an old dell motherboard with onboard vga. I could install Suse with it's standard EIDE kernel, but when I try to replace the standard one with my own, compiled on a pentium, I get the error. In the manual it mentions the importance of the /system.map to the /vmlinuz kernel. I havn't seen the system.map file before, and I'm wondering if there is a mismatch. On page 203 of the manual, it describes the importance of matching the system.map to the kernel. If I compile on a pentium, won't it generate a system map which is incompatible with an old isa motherboard? It is only an intellectual exercise for me, but those are the most fun problems to solve. :-) zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Now here's an idea I've had for some time .... maybe the folks at SuSE would be interested in setting this up at their site. This idea would definitely bring traffic to their site - all Linux users would benefit - no matter what dist they use. What would really be nice is if someone on a fast backbone were to build a "Kernel Compiler Web Site". Users could, using a web form based upon various kernel revs, submit an order to the site, have a kernel compiled and either e-mailed or sitting in a 'pickup directory' once it's completed. The resulting kernel would be in a tar.gz file with a copy of the .config file you submitted. The site could be paid for with banner ads and or subscriptions. Plus, folks on slower machines could take advantage of a faster machine to get a custom kernel direct from the net. As you think about it, the benefits start explaining themselves. If you set up a subscription service, subscibers could have the next rev of the Linux kernel delivered upon release, based upon subsciber information which would include a working .config file for however many systems you have subscribed. A base subscription might include 3 different .configs. And then, once the site is working and debugged, you could make a bundle out of it and include it with every distribution, thus, more folks could set up a link with ready made pages for their own kernel compiler web sites .... -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by zentara＠mindspring.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > > I have had my system lock up twice. Both times it stopped responding to > > > any kind of user input. At the same time, hard drive began to grind > > > with a repeated pattern. I assumed that the system was truly locked > > > because the numlock and the caps lock were not toggling the LEDs. The > > > last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in > > > xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than > > > it scrolled. > > > > > > Does anybody have any thoughts on this? > > > > What kind of hardware do you have? Do you have something in the error log? >> > I am not sure what is meant by error log. I looked at the /root/errors and > saw nothing there. As far as my system goes: > > Asus PCI MB > P5 -MMX 200 > Matrox Melinium II > 4 X 32 MB EDO SIMMs > US Robotics 33.6 Sportster > Intellimouse with IMPS driver > Western Digital 1G IDE HD > > I am also having a problem with my mouse. It sometimes moves off to the right > hand, top corner and wont come out. Almost like it saw a cat. If I clik and > move the mouse around really fast it will come out afte a while. I don't know > if the lockup problem may be related to the mouse or not. > This is what I would do. Pull out all your cards and simms, clean the contacts with a pencil eraser, put them back. If the problem stays, check your power supply, then your motherboard. It sounds like a power supply going flaky, especially when the mouse drifts off. Or maybe it is the mouse. Power supplies and serial mice are cheap, you can get a power supply for 30 bucks, and a mouse for 10. It's good to have spares anyways. :-) Your power supply might be OK, but you may be getting a voltage drop on your power line. Does this happen at the same time of the day? Next time it happens, check your wall socket voltage with a meter. Make sure it is above the minimum listed on your power supply. Some power supplies will go as low as 110v , but some need 115, or 120. I've seen this in the summer when air-conditioner loads are high. The voltage can drop to 105. It gives the exact symptom you describe. Mouse floats off, and system locks up. Maybe someone is running a space heater off the same line you are on , and the wire gauge isn't good enough. Try plugging in to a socket off of a different circuit breaker. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Enlightenment and WindowMaker.
by misc.word.corp＠pobox.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Matt, Thanks. All these apps and modules (wmmixer ant the like) are making me very tempted, but when I tried to install libPropList (necessary for WM) this afternoon . . . no luck. I ran ./configure, and it looked for "bison" (answer: no)then ran make, and it compained about the *absence* of bison. Back to the drawing board, I guess. Anyway, there's no necessity to send screenshots, but if you have a your copy of the .xinitrc, I'd love to have that . . . BTW, does anybody at S.u.S.E. who's reading this happen to know if WindowMaker is included on 5.2? (I may not have it compiled and installed by the time the CD is out). Thanks again, Glenn -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Window-System host:display.screen
by cbetan＠unet.ve 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Juergen there is a mini-howto that fits your questions: Remote X Apps mini-HOWTO. There you'll find all the anwers. Hope it helps! Carlos Betancourt CETI-UNET Venezuela DON'T FEAR THE PENGUINS -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > I am also having a problem with my mouse. It sometimes moves off to the right > hand, top corner and wont come out. Almost like it saw a cat. If I clik and > move the mouse around really fast it will come out afte a while. I don't know > if the lockup problem may be related to the mouse or not. > > Steve Hi Steve; This sounds like a problem I sometimes have with my mouse. You should take the ball out and clean the lint and dirt out. This will help some, but I've noticed that I have to replace it about once each 6 months. I don't think that your lockup is related to your mouse. JIM ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________ Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned, as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that none of them on board was a Princess. --- Harlan Ellison, InterZone -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: AOL
by netd＠fastrans.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Yes, the AOL *JAVA* and the ICQ *JAVA* for Linux - both run fine. These are real Java apps ... and as such require JRE or JDK installed. You can either install java from the SuSE distribution or pull it down and install it - it's not diffiuclt at all to install from a non-RPM standpoint, although I'm sure the RPM install is a nobrainer as well. These programs are not nearly as polished or clean as their Windows counterparts, but they do work well enough so that if you really want these apps on Linux, then they are there for you. To install: Download software from their sites: AOL = <A HREF="http://www.aol.com"><A HREF="http://www.aol.com</A">http://www.aol.com</A</A>> ICQ = <A HREF="http://www.mirabilis.com"><A HREF="http://www.mirabilis.com</A">http://www.mirabilis.com</A</A>> Look for the JAVA client links for both ... you'll see them ... just follow them to the Linux download ... Again, if you need java, they have links for that as well. Follow their unpackaging instructions, as well as their install instructions - it actually works. I have been able to put ICQ into a /usr/local/ICQ dir and had to hand config some symlinks to make a single /usr/local/ICQ dir available for multiple users. Don't ask me how I did it, suffice it to say I hacked some of their files and made some symlinks. I have not configured AOL Msgr multiuser. I have Real Player set up as multiuser and it works fine. If you need to know where java is on your system, do this in an xterm: which java ICQ: Put the resulting path into the ICQ 'install' script for the JAVA_HOME and you'll need to uncomment the line- remove the # from that line. On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Andrew L. Davis wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 10:09:07PM -0500, S Pawlowicz wrote: > > > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > >> As much as I find AOL a complete irritant, I've found the AOL Messenger java > >> client and their Instant Messenger Service much better. Their client is simple > >> to install as well. It is kind of weird to see the AOL logo running an app > >> under Linux ... as much as they have been maligned as the whore of babylon and > >> the worst excuse for a national ISP, they at least have cross platform apps. > >> Simply amazing ... and their client runs under Solaris too ... (ICQ does also) > >>... > > > > Tom, > > Are you saying we can install the 32 bit AOL instant messenger from > > netscape? How? > > He said JAVA, AOL Messenger. It works just as good as the windows version. > > -- > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling kernels for other machines
by ural＠sni.com.tr 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

I didn't mean it to be compiled under X. What I was trying to figure out is why the display could not be opened. So I thought that maybe after the compilation and installing of the new kernel, the system was about to run in X and since the memory is not enough it may had hard time initializing and that's why it could have produced the `unable to open display` :). But of course I do not insist it is the case :) Ural On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Mike Hostetler wrote: > > > I actually have a 486/sx and the advice below is good . . . but never, > ever try to compile the kernel in X. It will take *forever*. I always > go to single user mode (runlevel s, in SuSE) but if that isn't desirable, > use runlevel 2. > > - mikeh > > > > > > If your 486 is an SX then make sure you enable teh Math emulation. Also > > make sure the configuration matches your 486 hardware than the pentium. > > The PCI bus etc. I am not quite an expert but "could not open Display" may > > be caused because of no memory while loading the X since you mentioned the > > 486 is minimum RAM. Try to boot in another run level. Like for example run > > level 2. > > The guru's may correct me if I am wrong :) > > > > Ural > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have an old 486, with minimum ram and hard drive space, > > > and I would like to compile a kernel for it on my pentium. > > > > > > My first attempt was tested and the kernel just stopped > > > loading midway and rebooted. > > > On another attempt, it stopped during boot, and said it > > > could'nt open the display. > > > > > > What considerations do you have to keep in mind when > > > compiling for a different machine? > > > How important is the system.map file; and can the > > > system map compiled on the pentium, be transferred to > > > the 486? > > > > > > zentara > > > > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > -- > > ============================================================================== > || Mike Hostetler || || <A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas"><A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A">http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A</A>> || > || email1: mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu || || email2: thehaas(a)binary.net || > ============================================================================== > || `When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just || > || stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, || > || *for free*".' - Linus Torvalds || > ============================================================================== > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling kernels for other machines
by thehaas＠ravine.binary.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

I actually have a 486/sx and the advice below is good . . . but never, ever try to compile the kernel in X. It will take *forever*. I always go to single user mode (runlevel s, in SuSE) but if that isn't desirable, use runlevel 2. - mikeh > > If your 486 is an SX then make sure you enable teh Math emulation. Also > make sure the configuration matches your 486 hardware than the pentium. > The PCI bus etc. I am not quite an expert but "could not open Display" may > be caused because of no memory while loading the X since you mentioned the > 486 is minimum RAM. Try to boot in another run level. Like for example run > level 2. > The guru's may correct me if I am wrong :) > > Ural > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I have an old 486, with minimum ram and hard drive space, > > and I would like to compile a kernel for it on my pentium. > > > > My first attempt was tested and the kernel just stopped > > loading midway and rebooted. > > On another attempt, it stopped during boot, and said it > > could'nt open the display. > > > > What considerations do you have to keep in mind when > > compiling for a different machine? > > How important is the system.map file; and can the > > system map compiled on the pentium, be transferred to > > the 486? > > > > zentara > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- ============================================================================== || Mike Hostetler || || <A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas"><A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A">http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A</A>> || || email1: mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu || || email2: thehaas(a)binary.net || ============================================================================== || `When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just || || stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, || || *for free*".' - Linus Torvalds || ============================================================================== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Simon Karpen wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Dominik Weis wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > Dominik, > > > > > > I am not sure what is meant by error log. I looked at the /root/errors and > > > saw nothing there. As far as my system goes: > > > > > > Asus PCI MB > > > P5 -MMX 200 > > > Matrox Melinium II > > > 4 X 32 MB EDO SIMMs > > > US Robotics 33.6 Sportster > > > Intellimouse with IMPS driver > > > Western Digital 1G IDE HD > > I have also had no problems with Asus mainboards. However, I've noticed > a *LOT* of problems recently with a) heat, and even more > with b) dodgy power supplies. voltage tolerance is 5% (check > with a good multimeter), though personally I wouldn't accept anything > worse than 20n the 5V and 30n the 12V. > > Simon Karpen karpes(a)rpi.edu slk(a)acm.rpi.edu > "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Simon, That is not a bad idea. I have never had problems with lockups while running NT on the same system for over a year. That doesn't mean that I am not experiencing a coincidental power fluctuation problem. I do notice that my monitor sometimes shimmers at 60 Hz. I believe this is due to dirty house current. Will something like an APC UPS clean up the wave form? I'm still a bit suspicious of the mouse driver. My mouse it definitely acting flakey. Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling kernels for other machines
by jacobw＠louisville.edu 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 10:17:53AM -0500, zentara wrote: > > Hi, > > I have an old 486, with minimum ram and hard drive space, > and I would like to compile a kernel for it on my pentium. > > My first attempt was tested and the kernel just stopped > loading midway and rebooted. > On another attempt, it stopped during boot, and said it > could'nt open the display. > > What considerations do you have to keep in mind when > compiling for a different machine? > How important is the system.map file; and can the > system map compiled on the pentium, be transferred to > the 486? > > zentara You did remember to re-run lilo after you installed the new kernel didn't you? jrw -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling kernels for other machines
by ural＠sni.com.tr 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

If your 486 is an SX then make sure you enable teh Math emulation. Also make sure the configuration matches your 486 hardware than the pentium. The PCI bus etc. I am not quite an expert but "could not open Display" may be caused because of no memory while loading the X since you mentioned the 486 is minimum RAM. Try to boot in another run level. Like for example run level 2. The guru's may correct me if I am wrong :) Ural On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > > Hi, > > I have an old 486, with minimum ram and hard drive space, > and I would like to compile a kernel for it on my pentium. > > My first attempt was tested and the kernel just stopped > loading midway and rebooted. > On another attempt, it stopped during boot, and said it > could'nt open the display. > > What considerations do you have to keep in mind when > compiling for a different machine? > How important is the system.map file; and can the > system map compiled on the pentium, be transferred to > the 486? > > zentara > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by slk＠grace.acm.rpi.edu 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Dominik Weis wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > Dominik, > > > > I am not sure what is meant by error log. I looked at the /root/errors and > > saw nothing there. As far as my system goes: > > > > Asus PCI MB > > P5 -MMX 200 > > Matrox Melinium II > > 4 X 32 MB EDO SIMMs > > US Robotics 33.6 Sportster > > Intellimouse with IMPS driver > > Western Digital 1G IDE HD I have also had no problems with Asus mainboards. However, I've noticed a *LOT* of problems recently with a) heat, and even more with b) dodgy power supplies. voltage tolerance is 5% (check with a good multimeter), though personally I wouldn't accept anything worse than 20n the 5V and 30n the 12V. Simon Karpen karpes(a)rpi.edu slk(a)acm.rpi.edu "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling kernels for other machines
by zentara＠mindspring.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Hi, I have an old 486, with minimum ram and hard drive space, and I would like to compile a kernel for it on my pentium. My first attempt was tested and the kernel just stopped loading midway and rebooted. On another attempt, it stopped during boot, and said it could'nt open the display. What considerations do you have to keep in mind when compiling for a different machine? How important is the system.map file; and can the system map compiled on the pentium, be transferred to the 486? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by weis＠dom.hws.edu 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > Dominik, > > I am not sure what is meant by error log. I looked at the /root/errors and > saw nothing there. As far as my system goes: > > Asus PCI MB > P5 -MMX 200 > Matrox Melinium II > 4 X 32 MB EDO SIMMs > US Robotics 33.6 Sportster > Intellimouse with IMPS driver > Western Digital 1G IDE HD Sorry the definition of error log was bad. I mean if you have any errors in /var/log/warn or something in /var/log/messages. There should be many messages but the most interesting are the one right before the computer crashes. I personally had only good experience with ASUS mainboards. Dominik Weis -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Package managment
by grant＠dgc-nms.co.uk 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

The easiest rpm tool I've found for the X Window System is glint, it's totally GUI and works well. Grant Crawley. <grant(a)dgc-nms.co.uk> Hurricane Linux is coming and is going to blow the Windows out. At 07:15 23/03/98 -0600, you wrote: > >I installet xrpm and used it to get netscape off of a cheapbytes disk, so it >seems compatable to me. Easy even. But I had to hunt it to install it. > >Mark Wagnon wrote: > >> TEX wrote: >> > >> > Is there a control panel or other way to do rpms in SuSE.. The guiier >> > the better. >> > I need to get netscape communicator off of my cheapbyted cd into suse. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > -- >> > LINUX IS THE PATH. >> > >> >> I guess there's a X-based front end to rpm, but I haven't used it. If >> you want to just install an rpm, open up an xterm and cd to whereever >> the rpm is and type rpm -ivh filename.rpm, where the -ivh means install, >> verbose, display # signs as a progress indicator. Pretty straightfoward. >> However, I have a question that I posted earlier which was never >> answered: are redhat rpms and suse rpms compatible? >> >> Luck and thanks >> >> Mark >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- >LINUX IS THE PATH. > >TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Dominik Weis wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > I have had my system lock up twice. Both times it stopped responding to > > any kind of user input. At the same time, hard drive began to grind > > with a repeated pattern. I assumed that the system was truly locked > > because the numlock and the caps lock were not toggling the LEDs. The > > last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in > > xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than > > it scrolled. > > > > Does anybody have any thoughts on this? > > What kind of hardware do you have? Do you have something in the error log? > > Dominik Weis > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Dominik, I am not sure what is meant by error log. I looked at the /root/errors and saw nothing there. As far as my system goes: Asus PCI MB P5 -MMX 200 Matrox Melinium II 4 X 32 MB EDO SIMMs US Robotics 33.6 Sportster Intellimouse with IMPS driver Western Digital 1G IDE HD I am also having a problem with my mouse. It sometimes moves off to the right hand, top corner and wont come out. Almost like it saw a cat. If I clik and move the mouse around really fast it will come out afte a while. I don't know if the lockup problem may be related to the mouse or not. Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] list archive/modem config?
by mgx＠spruce.lsd.ornl.gov 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

good day all ... first, is there an archive available for this list? econd. i could you some basic instruction on configuring the modem on my system (suse 5.1/micron millenia) to use ppp/dhcp. yast sure made configuring the ethernet adapter a snap, is there a way to let yast do the same with the modem? tia! -- -- michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: AOL
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 10:09:07PM -0500, S Pawlowicz wrote: > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > >> As much as I find AOL a complete irritant, I've found the AOL Messenger java >> client and their Instant Messenger Service much better. Their client is simple >> to install as well. It is kind of weird to see the AOL logo running an app >> under Linux ... as much as they have been maligned as the whore of babylon and >> the worst excuse for a national ISP, they at least have cross platform apps. >> Simply amazing ... and their client runs under Solaris too ... (ICQ does also) >>... > > Tom, > Are you saying we can install the 32 bit AOL instant messenger from > netscape? How? He said JAVA, AOL Messenger. It works just as good as the windows version. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Michael, > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. Unfortunately I > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have tried the > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When the pointer > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop looks like > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves netscape the > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this means that > I am changing color maps. Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 and that will solve your problems. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Package managment
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

I installet xrpm and used it to get netscape off of a cheapbytes disk, so it seems compatable to me. Easy even. But I had to hunt it to install it. Mark Wagnon wrote: > TEX wrote: > > > > Is there a control panel or other way to do rpms in SuSE.. The guiier > > the better. > > I need to get netscape communicator off of my cheapbyted cd into suse. > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > > > I guess there's a X-based front end to rpm, but I haven't used it. If > you want to just install an rpm, open up an xterm and cd to whereever > the rpm is and type rpm -ivh filename.rpm, where the -ivh means install, > verbose, display # signs as a progress indicator. Pretty straightfoward. > However, I have a question that I posted earlier which was never > answered: are redhat rpms and suse rpms compatible? > > Luck and thanks > > Mark > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Peace on Linux...
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

We have good belgium beer brewed right here in Austin, Texas by the Celis Brewery.. Long live GranCru. Pascal Bleser wrote: > Well, there are over a thousand different belgian beers, so... > Some breweries exist for over 500 years (don't tell me there were american > breweries 500 years ago), and believe me, that's experience +ACE- > Belgian beers are some of the very strongest, and have many different tastes > and there also are some beers made with cherries (the famous +ACI-Kriek+ACI- from > Brussels) or other fruits... > >From white to brown over red, there's NO comparison with ANY other beer in > the world... Belgium definately +AF8-is+AF8- the country of beer +ACE- > Sorry guys, but people who don't believe me +AF8-don't+AF8- know what they're > talking about :-) > German beers...well...some aren't too bad, but really, all the same... > And, American beers +ACE-?+ACE-? C'mon, guys, you don't even know where Belgium > is... > > By the way, to get this right: > - girls are great +AF8-everywhere+AF8- > - beer is best in Belgium > - chocolate, too (as well as in Switzerland) > ... and all of this was ment for that +ACoAKgAq-PIE+ACoAKgAq- thing (ask Bill Gates, got > it ?) > > And.. oh yeah+ACE- This is a Linux channel (I know I started this somehow, > but... +ADs--) ) > We shouldn't start a fight about nationalities here (99+ACU- are US anyway > +ADs--) ), but get ourselves (Linux people) together against those bloodsuckers > (green blood) from m+ACQ-... > > One thing you should always remember: > it is not because we are getting used to windows NT to crash that it is > acceptable... > > Pascal > best OS, best speed, best network, best reliability... that's Linux +ACE- > best distribution... that's S.u.S.E. > > P.S.: someone has given me a very nice way to access windows hosts that are > connected to the internet with a modem and a network card... and when I say > access, I mean access +ADs--) > if there are people who are interested... > > -----Original Message----- > From: hongfeng+AEA-public.wh.hb.cn +ADw-hongfeng+AEA-public.wh.hb.cn+AD4- > To: suse-linux-e+AEA-suse.com +ADw-suse-linux-e+AEA-suse.com+AD4- > Date: samedi 21 mars 1998 04:44 > Subject: Re: +AFs-S.u.S.E. Linux+AF0- re: Belgium > > +AD4- > +AD4-there was a German beer in Wuhan, China - the city I am living now. The > +AD4-brand name > +AD4-is +ACI-Steinbraeu+ACI-, but this production line was sold to Buderweiser 2 years > +AD4-ago. > +AD4- > +AD4-Anyway, i like German beer, what's the taste of Belgium beer, I don't > +AD4-know. > +AD4- > +AD4-Best, > +AD4-Frederic > +AD4- > +AD4-Bodo Bauer +BDQAtQC9AKMAug- > +AD4- > +AD4APg- Hi, > +AD4APg- > +AD4APg- it's funny to see a discussion about beer on our list, I like it... > +AD4APg- > +AD4APg- I've been living in Germany in a area where nearly 1000 breweries > +AD4APg- (you would call them micro breweries I think..) can be found in > +AD4APg- a 100km raduis. And there is no doubt, the best beers are > +AD4APg- mbrewed in this area, in 'Franken' (or Frankonia...). > +AD4APg- > +AD4APg- I'm living now in San Francisco for about three month and enjoy > +AD4APg- the Bay area. But there are two things I'm realy missing, > +AD4APg- good German beer (forget about Becks, or the other German brands > +AD4APg- you can get in the US...) and German food... +ADsAXg-) > +AD4APg- > +AD4APg- Ciao, > +AD4APg- BB > +AD4APg- -- > +AD4APg- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon 510-835 7873 > +AD4APg- bb+AEA-suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax 510-835 7875 > +AD4APg- <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > +AD4APg- -- > +AD4APg- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo+AEA-suse.com with > +AD4APg- this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > +AD4- > +AD4- > +AD4- > +AD4--- > +AD4-To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo+AEA-suse.com with > +AD4-this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > +AD4- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by weis＠dom.hws.edu 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > All, > > I have had my system lock up twice. Both times it stopped responding to > any kind of user input. At the same time, hard drive began to grind > with a repeated pattern. I assumed that the system was truly locked > because the numlock and the caps lock were not toggling the LEDs. The > last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in > xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than > it scrolled. > > Does anybody have any thoughts on this? What kind of hardware do you have? Do you have something in the error log? Dominik Weis -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Peace on Linux...
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Well, there are over a thousand different belgian beers, so... Some breweries exist for over 500 years (don't tell me there were american breweries 500 years ago), and believe me, that's experience +ACE- Belgian beers are some of the very strongest, and have many different tastes and there also are some beers made with cherries (the famous +ACI-Kriek+ACI- from Brussels) or other fruits... From white to brown over red, there's NO comparison with ANY other beer in the world... Belgium definately +AF8-is+AF8- the country of beer +ACE- Sorry guys, but people who don't believe me +AF8-don't+AF8- know what they're talking about :-) German beers...well...some aren't too bad, but really, all the same... And, American beers +ACE-?+ACE-? C'mon, guys, you don't even know where Belgium is... By the way, to get this right: - girls are great +AF8-everywhere+AF8- - beer is best in Belgium - chocolate, too (as well as in Switzerland) ... and all of this was ment for that +ACoAKgAq-PIE+ACoAKgAq- thing (ask Bill Gates, got it ?) And.. oh yeah+ACE- This is a Linux channel (I know I started this somehow, but... +ADs--) ) We shouldn't start a fight about nationalities here (99+ACU- are US anyway +ADs--) ), but get ourselves (Linux people) together against those bloodsuckers (green blood) from m+ACQ-... One thing you should always remember: it is not because we are getting used to windows NT to crash that it is acceptable... Pascal best OS, best speed, best network, best reliability... that's Linux +ACE- best distribution... that's S.u.S.E. P.S.: someone has given me a very nice way to access windows hosts that are connected to the internet with a modem and a network card... and when I say access, I mean access +ADs--) if there are people who are interested... -----Original Message----- From: hongfeng+AEA-public.wh.hb.cn +ADw-hongfeng+AEA-public.wh.hb.cn+AD4- To: suse-linux-e+AEA-suse.com +ADw-suse-linux-e+AEA-suse.com+AD4- Date: samedi 21 mars 1998 04:44 Subject: Re: +AFs-S.u.S.E. Linux+AF0- re: Belgium +AD4- +AD4-there was a German beer in Wuhan, China - the city I am living now. The +AD4-brand name +AD4-is +ACI-Steinbraeu+ACI-, but this production line was sold to Buderweiser 2 years +AD4-ago. +AD4- +AD4-Anyway, i like German beer, what's the taste of Belgium beer, I don't +AD4-know. +AD4- +AD4-Best, +AD4-Frederic +AD4- +AD4-Bodo Bauer +BDQAtQC9AKMAug- +AD4- +AD4APg- Hi, +AD4APg- +AD4APg- it's funny to see a discussion about beer on our list, I like it... +AD4APg- +AD4APg- I've been living in Germany in a area where nearly 1000 breweries +AD4APg- (you would call them micro breweries I think..) can be found in +AD4APg- a 100km raduis. And there is no doubt, the best beers are +AD4APg- mbrewed in this area, in 'Franken' (or Frankonia...). +AD4APg- +AD4APg- I'm living now in San Francisco for about three month and enjoy +AD4APg- the Bay area. But there are two things I'm realy missing, +AD4APg- good German beer (forget about Becks, or the other German brands +AD4APg- you can get in the US...) and German food... +ADsAXg-) +AD4APg- +AD4APg- Ciao, +AD4APg- BB +AD4APg- -- +AD4APg- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon 510-835 7873 +AD4APg- bb+AEA-suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax 510-835 7875 +AD4APg- <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA +AD4APg- -- +AD4APg- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo+AEA-suse.com with +AD4APg- this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4--- +AD4-To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo+AEA-suse.com with +AD4-this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e +AD4- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] re: Belgium
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Well, that comment is not really founded, because you can find over 300 belgian beers... I'm sure you bought a Bud or some sh** like that ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Mark Harrison <markh(a)usai.asiainfo.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: vendredi 20 mars 1998 15:56 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] re: Belgium > >>What ? >>You think you have better beer than in Belgium ? >>You _must_ be joking... > > >When I was there, the water kind of tasted like beer... >not very good beer, though. :-/ > >Mark. > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by jdkc＠woptura.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: BTW, I may have been wrong about the color depth I am using. It is likely > that it is only 16 bpp. This may be why this is happening. If netscape is > trying to run at 24 bpp it may not agree with my display settings. > I have good luck with: tartx -- -bpp 15 (Yeah, yeah, I know.......it's one short, but it works better, with less load on the card) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Package managment
by mikl＠club-internet.fr 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Mark Wagnon wrote: > > TEX wrote: > > > > Is there a control panel or other way to do rpms in SuSE.. The guiier > > the better. > > I need to get netscape communicator off of my cheapbyted cd into suse. > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > > There is XRPM in Suse 5.1 (I think), but IMHO Yast is far better to manage your system. I think text mode is far better because you don't have to load Xwindows to fine tune your system or to make slight change in the config. I like it very much and use it a lot. Bye. Mickael Remond -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Package managment
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

TEX wrote: > > Is there a control panel or other way to do rpms in SuSE.. The guiier > the better. > I need to get netscape communicator off of my cheapbyted cd into suse. > > Thanks > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. > I guess there's a X-based front end to rpm, but I haven't used it. If you want to just install an rpm, open up an xterm and cd to whereever the rpm is and type rpm -ivh filename.rpm, where the -ivh means install, verbose, display # signs as a progress indicator. Pretty straightfoward. However, I have a question that I posted earlier which was never answered: are redhat rpms and suse rpms compatible? Luck and thanks Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
by pwlwcz＠ibm.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > As much as I find AOL a complete irritant, I've found the AOL Messenger java > client and their Instant Messenger Service much better. Their client is simple > to install as well. It is kind of weird to see the AOL logo running an app > under Linux ... as much as they have been maligned as the whore of babylon and > the worst excuse for a national ISP, they at least have cross platform apps. > Simply amazing ... and their client runs under Solaris too ... (ICQ does also) > ... Tom, Are you saying we can install the 32 bit AOL instant messenger from netscape? How? Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] inellimouse & wheel?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Chris Herrnberger wrote: > Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > Stefan Troeger wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 17:08 -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > > > What can I say? Bill does make a nice mouse ;-) I upgraded my windows > > > > manager so that I could use my intellimouse. I got the middle button > > > > working for the midle button of a three button mouse. I don't know what > > > > to expect regarding the wheel funcitonality though. In Win-Dos NT I can > > > > scroll using the wheel when running netscape. This is not working in > > > > suse. Any ideas? > > > > > > AFAIK, the next version of XFree (3.3.2) supports mice with > > > wheels. > > > > > > Ciao > > > Stefan > > > -- > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > Stefan, > > > > Thats what it says. I installed 3.3.2. My wheel now works as button 2. I > > don't know if there are any Linux programs that understand a wheel. That is > > basically my question. How would I know if it works? > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Hi Steve: > > Accidentally I was handed one of these mice; A Logitech, two button with > the wheel in the middle. Set it up under xf86config (sever 3.3.2) under > Logitich mouseman, checked netscape for wheel action....nada...what > model do you have and what are your setting if I may ask? You can post > tp site or email me directly if you preferr. > > TIA > > CHRIS > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Chris, I'm using a M****S*** PS/2 intellimouse. It really is nice to use. I selected PSIM (or something like that). I have the feeling that the software needs to understand the Z axis in order to the wheel to work. My guess is that this is not going to be common in Linux for a few months. Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

All, I have had my system lock up twice. Both times it stopped responding to any kind of user input. At the same time, hard drive began to grind with a repeated pattern. I assumed that the system was truly locked because the numlock and the caps lock were not toggling the LEDs. The last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than it scrolled. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Michael, Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. Unfortunately I don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have tried the -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When the pointer in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop looks like something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves netscape the background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this means that I am changing color maps. BTW, I may have been wrong about the color depth I am using. It is likely that it is only 16 bpp. This may be why this is happening. If netscape is trying to run at 24 bpp it may not agree with my display settings. Steve Michael Lankton wrote: > Netscape has a problem with 24 bpp, so if you are using 24 bpp, try 16 bpp > and see if that solves your problem. I run a 4 meg s3virge at 16 bpp and > xv -root -quit background.gif & and have never experienced any problems. > > Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I went out to www.wri.com/graphics, downloaded the collage.gif (the big > > one on the default page) to /temp and ran: > > > > xv -root -quit /temp/collage.gif > > > > Cool! I get an awsome backdrop. Then I start netscape and get: > > > > Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "#C0C0C0" > > Warning: > > Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background > > > > Netscape looks like doo-doo. I have this same type of behavior on my > > sparc at work. I used to think that it was a limitation of the video > > hardware on the Sun. I have an 8MB Matrox here at home. I would not > > expect that I am running out of vRAM. This is possible I guess. > > > > I did try to knock the colors back on the gif using xv and saving the > > file with the Reduced Color option. This seemed to fix the netscape > > color problem. > > > > Can anybody clue me in on what is going on here? Can I bump up my color > > space. Note: I do have my resolution and color deapth maxed out on my > > display. > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] backgrounds?
by rkeeley＠dibbs.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Steven, I also thought there were 7 "desks" when my pager said 6, but if you will look, you will see #4 is missing! By actual count it is 6. But I also note that desk #2 should be yellow, all the rest are some kind of blue. Unless it were wrote over or took precedent by issueing a later command, that desk should be blue. On mine, it turns kinda dark orange. Steven T. Hatton wrote: > Mark, > > Thanks for the help. I am still not getting what I expect. What is meant by > an "FvwmBackerDesk 1" ? I notice that there are seven such "Desks". I > originally thought that each of the six rectangles displayed in the left > upper corner of the xvfm desktop represented a "Desk". > > The following sets all of what I think are Desks to steelblue: > > *FvwmBackerDesk 0 -solid steelblue > # *FvwmBackerDesk 1 Exec xv -root -quit /temp/collage.gif > *FvwmBackerDesk 1 -solid midnightblue > *FvwmBackerDesk 2 -solid yellow > *FvwmBackerDesk 3 -solid cadetblue2 > *FvwmBackerDesk 5 -solid cadetblue3 > *FvwmBackerDesk 6 -solid cadetblue4 > > Am I not understanding correctly what a desk is? > > Steve > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- 73's Roy KC4IMC rkeeley(a)dibbs.net rkeeley(a)acan.net kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org Snail Mail = 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA APS #158954 - ARA #4750 - C&LS #162 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Enlightenment and WindowMaker.
by maylward＠sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Glenn, Windowmaker compiled "out of the box" with no tweaking at all, Enlightenment I am not sure on, I don't think I needed to modify anything, I will check tonight (I only have an internet/email connection here at work where we run Solaris, not Linux). Regarding the .xinitrc, Windowmaker creates it's own and backs up your old one in the process (when you run the WMaker.inst command). It is only a few lines long so I included it in the standard SuSE .xinitrc in $HOME and put an if...then...else loop so it checks if $WINDOWMANAGER is set to wmaker and if true it runs the windowmaker specific commands, if false it runs the windowmanager defined by $WINDOWMANAGER as usual. This way you can still choose your windowmanager by setting $WINDOWMANAGER in your .bashrc. I will send you a copy of this tomorrow. There are some very nice little applications written for windowmaker, and/or afterstep, these include a selection of cd players (wmcd, ascd and wmrack), a couple of system load monitors (wmload and wmavgload), a sound mixer (wmmixer) and a file syatem mounting tool (wmmount) and modem control tool (wmmodem). These all run as cute little icons on the "dock" with miniature control buttons, they are great toys and also very practical. If you want to see how they look and how to set them up just ask and I'll sent you a screen shot directly. Ihope all this is usefull, Regards, Matt misc.word.corp(a)pobox.com wrote: > > Matt, > > Thanks for the info and great links. > > When you installed Enlightenment and WindowMaker on your S.u.S.E. box, > did you need to tweak anything to get the source to compile? Any > problems with dependencies (apart from Imlib, in the case of > Enlightenment) and/or libraries? Did you need to make any symbolic > links? > > Also, did you write an .xinitrc script to run these window managers, or > modify .bashrc? > > Thanks in advance. I also like to vary my GUI as much as possible (keeps > the cobwebs from invading my brain) and appreciate your advice. > > Glenn > $B!!(J > > ---snip----- -- Matt Aylward Dept of Geography (GIS), UWA email: maylward(a)sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au Linux Lover and GIS Geek ..............LINUX..................... OS for the people by the people -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] inellimouse & wheel?
by chris123＠netcom.ca 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Stefan Troeger wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 17:08 -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > What can I say? Bill does make a nice mouse ;-) I upgraded my windows > > > manager so that I could use my intellimouse. I got the middle button > > > working for the midle button of a three button mouse. I don't know what > > > to expect regarding the wheel funcitonality though. In Win-Dos NT I can > > > scroll using the wheel when running netscape. This is not working in > > > suse. Any ideas? > > > > AFAIK, the next version of XFree (3.3.2) supports mice with > > wheels. > > > > Ciao > > Stefan > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Stefan, > > Thats what it says. I installed 3.3.2. My wheel now works as button 2. I > don't know if there are any Linux programs that understand a wheel. That is > basically my question. How would I know if it works? > > Steve > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Hi Steve: Accidentally I was handed one of these mice; A Logitech, two button with the wheel in the middle. Set it up under xf86config (sever 3.3.2) under Logitich mouseman, checked netscape for wheel action....nada...what model do you have and what are your setting if I may ask? You can post tp site or email me directly if you preferr. TIA CHRIS -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Hylafax und Win95 Clients
by joerg_helmreich＠gmx.de 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Hallo, wie muß ich den Hylafax-Server und die Win95 Clients konfigurieren, damit ich die Linux-Box als Fax-Server verwenden kann? Der Server läuft schon. Ich weiß nur nicht so recht wie ich die Clients anbinden kann. Im Windows Fax-Setup das Spool-Verzeichnis anzugeben reicht leider nicht... Gruß, Joerg -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] inellimouse & wheel?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Stefan Troeger wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 17:08 -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > What can I say? Bill does make a nice mouse ;-) I upgraded my windows > > manager so that I could use my intellimouse. I got the middle button > > working for the midle button of a three button mouse. I don't know what > > to expect regarding the wheel funcitonality though. In Win-Dos NT I can > > scroll using the wheel when running netscape. This is not working in > > suse. Any ideas? > > AFAIK, the next version of XFree (3.3.2) supports mice with > wheels. > > Ciao > Stefan > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Stefan, Thats what it says. I installed 3.3.2. My wheel now works as button 2. I don't know if there are any Linux programs that understand a wheel. That is basically my question. How would I know if it works? Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by john＠totten.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

__ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... Just add the Penguin to this Logo and you'll have the marketing bonanza of a lifetime. I mean - it says something to be standing at the checkout with this under your arm ! (Thanks to TEX <mhtexcollins(a)ccms.net> whose posted it to SuSE-linue-e(a)suse.com as a signature file Sun Mar22 17:15 under the heading 'Package Management' - Hope you don't mind TEX ?!) John Totten Sitka Alaska "Patrick T. Berry" <pberry2(a)bellsouth.net> wrote :- <Talking about selling computers with Linux preinstalled or bundled> > Target market is home systems, lets get Linux spread out among the populace, The target price of $800 retail is > attainable, as your lists show. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST / glibc
by deem＠wdm.com 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Kaare Rasmussen <kar(a)webline.dk> wrote: > > > glibc will be mainstream but not until later this year. > > The problem will always be to use the new technology on the exact > correct time: After all (or enough) errors are worked out and before > your system is (or seems) outdated. > glibc is just primarily for mutiple platforms. I suppose when I start using an DEC/Alpha 1000+MHz box, I'll be glad, but for now, Intel works fine. So no big need for my apps to use glibc. libc is by no means outdated, unless you live in a Red Hat world, which is not the case for all users of Linux. Best Regards, -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Getting FVWM95to run
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > Jim Hodgers wrote: > > > > > > > >Mark Wagnon wrote: > > > > > S Pawlowicz wrote: > > > > > > > figure out how to alter my default window manager for my "root" login. X > > > > currently starts with Fvwm2. If I type "startx fvwm95", I still get > > > > fvwm2. I have managed to change default for other user's and the command > > I thought the same thing because the "FVWM2" banner appears when it boots, but in > fact the FVWM95 was running. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Yeah, the only real difference on the screen is in the open boxes, in fvwm95, there are 3 buttons on the right top as everything can be minimized to the task bar:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] inellimouse & wheel?
by stefan.troeger＠wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 17:08 -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > What can I say? Bill does make a nice mouse ;-) I upgraded my windows > manager so that I could use my intellimouse. I got the middle button > working for the midle button of a three button mouse. I don't know what > to expect regarding the wheel funcitonality though. In Win-Dos NT I can > scroll using the wheel when running netscape. This is not working in > suse. Any ideas? AFAIK, the next version of XFree (3.3.2) supports mice with wheels. Ciao Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ghostview, and Apsfilter
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > Two problems here, > 1. When I view certain documents in ghostview, the size is set to A4, > but I want to print them in Letter size. Ghostview will not allow me > to change the media size. An example is the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" > document by Eric S. Raymond. I would like to print in Letter size, but > cannot - result is when I do attempt to print it, I lose the tail-end > of some pages. > Any ides, anyone? > 2. I tried to use the apsfilter setup utility > (/var/lib/apsfilter/SETUP). The main screen appears and asks for > <RETURN> to continue. This I do, then the script exits. ????? > Am I missing something?? > > Thanks in Advance > -- > Dave E. > -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- > No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! > ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- > SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com > 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Actually, I had the same problem until I used Yast to configure printers. By default, it set up the print spooler for A4 paper size, when I selected the printer, I had it set it up for letter size. Then when Suconfig ran, I discovered I had an additional 4 spool directories for the "new printer". But at any rate, from that point on, my printouts did fit the paper instead of running over. BTW, I used one of the epson drivers for my panasonic kpx2123:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST and "reachable directory"
by stefan.troeger＠wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 19:44 -0000, Ted Harding wrote: > In S.u.S.E. 5.1, YaST > > Adjustments of installation//Select installation medium//Help > > says, about "Installation from a reachable directory": [...] > Was I doing something wrong (but if so this is NOT evident from any > documentation)? Any comments? This should do what you want: Choose/Install packages Install packages Source: Directory /root/Kdat/ Then you can choose the rpm in the directory browser. Ciao Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Getting FVWM95to run
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Jim Hodgers wrote: > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:30:05 -0600 > From: Leon McClatchey <ldmccla(a)ibm.net> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] startx problems > Sender: owner-suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e > > >Mark Wagnon wrote: > > > S Pawlowicz wrote: > > > > > figure out how to alter my default window manager for my "root" login. X > > > currently starts with Fvwm2. If I type "startx fvwm95", I still get > > > fvwm2. I have managed to change default for other user's and the command > > > line option works for all installed window managers under any login > > > other than root. How do I change default window manager for "root"? > > > > > > > >I've got the same problem, and part of the problem seems to be that their > >is no .xinitrc (or .bashrc for that matter) in the home directory for root. > >'ve gotten around that problem mainly by logging on as a regular user and > >then have sudo setup where if necessary I can change to su to do whatever is > >necessary, (I've also got my mail set up to go to me as a regular user). I > >have tried copying a .bashrc and .xinitrc from my regular login and that > >didn't make a bit of difference. I've even changed the system .xinitrc so > >that fwm95 is launched as the default window manager, but it still doesn't do > >anything:-( (I've tried that also in Profile I think, (I gave it up and went > >on to other things after a bit)). > > > >cya l8r > >Leon McClatchey > >leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > > I had the same problem. Try > "startx /usr/X11R6/bin" > Worked for me and I a newbie. Don't ask why!! > Jim "8000 ft. in the Rocky Mts" Hodgers > ...Happiness as a running Alfa Romeo... > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Not sure what happened, tried this before and it didn't work, but I did copy my .xinitrc from my "normal" user home directory to the /root directory and Xfree did come up with fvwm95 window manager. Also copied the .bashrc file over, but for some reason, when I log on as root, it still doesn't do quite the same, (even on the paths that are set up with no test). For instance, I can log in as my normal user and the andrew & thot path additions work, but when I log on as root, then I have to key in the entire path in order to fire up either one. But at least part of the problem is solved, guess I'll have to take a closer look at just what script root actually logs in on? Thanx Loads Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST / glibc
by kar＠webline.dk 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

> glibc will be mainstream but not until later this year. The problem will always be to use the new technology on the exact correct time: After all (or enough) errors are worked out and before your system is (or seems) outdated. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ghostview, and Apsfilter
by stefan.troeger＠wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de 23 Mar '98

23 Mar '98

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 13:02 -0500, dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > > Two problems here, > 1. When I view certain documents in ghostview, the size is set to A4, > but I want to print them in Letter size. Ghostview will not allow me > to change the media size. An example is the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" > document by Eric S. Raymond. I would like to print in Letter size, but > cannot - result is when I do attempt to print it, I lose the tail-end > of some pages. > Any ides, anyone? Try psresize (it's included in the psutils package): psresize -PA4 -pletter in.ps out.ps Ciao Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiled Kernel questions
by dedwards＠technologist.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

I've just compiled the kernal for the 2nd (well 2nd successfully) time. Why - the last compile, I did not use SuSE source, this time I did. I also wanted to change my MB chipset settings, and I wanted to change my sound chipset. I chose the ALI M14xx MB chipset, and the Crystal Sound Chipset. Copied the zImage to loadlin directory, set ide0-ali14xx boot parameter, moved my CDRom drive from slave on the first controller to master on the second controller. Booted okay - looking good - 2nd IDE controller access etc. Question though, in the boot messages, I get: hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS Is this bad?? - what can I do to get rid of these messages?? Also - what can I do to get mixer working on my Soundcard?? - pretty general question, I know, but maybe someone out there is a real whiz with sound, and can point me in the right direction - even if it's only to the necessary docs (and the HOWTO's seem woefully dated - maybe I'm looking in the wrong places:->) -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Getting FVWM95to run
by jdkc＠woptura.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Jim Hodgers wrote: > > > >Mark Wagnon wrote: > > > S Pawlowicz wrote: > > > > > figure out how to alter my default window manager for my "root" login. X > > > currently starts with Fvwm2. If I type "startx fvwm95", I still get > > > fvwm2. I have managed to change default for other user's and the command I thought the same thing because the "FVWM2" banner appears when it boots, but in fact the FVWM95 was running. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Package managment
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Is there a control panel or other way to do rpms in SuSE.. The guiier the better. I need to get netscape communicator off of my cheapbyted cd into suse. Thanks -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by zentara＠mindspring.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Hi, > > I went out to www.wri.com/graphics, downloaded the collage.gif (the big > one on the default page) to /temp and ran: > > xv -root -quit /temp/collage.gif > > Cool! I get an awsome backdrop. Then I start netscape and get: > > Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "#C0C0C0" > Warning: > Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background > > Netscape looks like doo-doo. I have this same type of behavior on my > Yeah, I had the same problem, and I put the default "cement wall" background back in. It's a real problem if you try to run WABI( which requires 8bpp) and netscape(likes 16bpp) together without the default background. It seems to me that the first image loaded sets the basic colormap, and everything else has to conform as best as possible. With the default background, netscape locks in nicely. It seems that the default background has the best comprimise of colors. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by satan＠nfinity.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Netscape has a problem with 24 bpp, so if you are using 24 bpp, try 16 bpp and see if that solves your problem. I run a 4 meg s3virge at 16 bpp and xv -root -quit background.gif & and have never experienced any problems. Steven T. Hatton wrote: > Hi, > > I went out to www.wri.com/graphics, downloaded the collage.gif (the big > one on the default page) to /temp and ran: > > xv -root -quit /temp/collage.gif > > Cool! I get an awsome backdrop. Then I start netscape and get: > > Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "#C0C0C0" > Warning: > Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background > > Netscape looks like doo-doo. I have this same type of behavior on my > sparc at work. I used to think that it was a limitation of the video > hardware on the Sun. I have an 8MB Matrox here at home. I would not > expect that I am running out of vRAM. This is possible I guess. > > I did try to knock the colors back on the gif using xv and saving the > file with the Reduced Color option. This seemed to fix the netscape > color problem. > > Can anybody clue me in on what is going on here? Can I bump up my color > space. Note: I do have my resolution and color deapth maxed out on my > display. > > Steve > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Window-System host:display.screen
by maleike＠maleike.gl.eunet.de 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Hello, is it possible to move an application window (e.g. xterm) from one physical display (monitor) to another physical display ? I don't really understand the difference between display number and screen number. Thanx in Advance. So long . . . . . . . . . . . Juergen Maleike fon: 0.2204.21569 Wingertsheide 9 fax: 0.2204.25018 D-51427 Bergisch Gladbach mailto: maleike(a)maleike.gl.eunet.de ......... . . . . . . . . . . -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Getting FVWM95to run
by alfiesty＠chaffee.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:30:05 -0600 From: Leon McClatchey <ldmccla(a)ibm.net> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] startx problems Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com X-Mailinglist: suse-linux-e >Mark Wagnon wrote: > S Pawlowicz wrote: > > > figure out how to alter my default window manager for my "root" login. X > > currently starts with Fvwm2. If I type "startx fvwm95", I still get > > fvwm2. I have managed to change default for other user's and the command > > line option works for all installed window managers under any login > > other than root. How do I change default window manager for "root"? > > > > >I've got the same problem, and part of the problem seems to be that their >is no .xinitrc (or .bashrc for that matter) in the home directory for root. >'ve gotten around that problem mainly by logging on as a regular user and >then have sudo setup where if necessary I can change to su to do whatever is >necessary, (I've also got my mail set up to go to me as a regular user). I >have tried copying a .bashrc and .xinitrc from my regular login and that >didn't make a bit of difference. I've even changed the system .xinitrc so >that fwm95 is launched as the default window manager, but it still doesn't do >anything:-( (I've tried that also in Profile I think, (I gave it up and went >on to other things after a bit)). > >cya l8r >Leon McClatchey >leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com I had the same problem. Try "startx /usr/X11R6/bin" Worked for me and I a newbie. Don't ask why!! Jim "8000 ft. in the Rocky Mts" Hodgers ...Happiness as a running Alfa Romeo... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] inellimouse & wheel?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

All, What can I say? Bill does make a nice mouse ;-) I upgraded my windows manager so that I could use my intellimouse. I got the middle button working for the midle button of a three button mouse. I don't know what to expect regarding the wheel funcitonality though. In Win-Dos NT I can scroll using the wheel when running netscape. This is not working in suse. Any ideas? Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Hi, I went out to www.wri.com/graphics, downloaded the collage.gif (the big one on the default page) to /temp and ran: xv -root -quit /temp/collage.gif Cool! I get an awsome backdrop. Then I start netscape and get: Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for "#C0C0C0" Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Netscape looks like doo-doo. I have this same type of behavior on my sparc at work. I used to think that it was a limitation of the video hardware on the Sun. I have an 8MB Matrox here at home. I would not expect that I am running out of vRAM. This is possible I guess. I did try to knock the colors back on the gif using xv and saving the file with the Reduced Color option. This seemed to fix the netscape color problem. Can anybody clue me in on what is going on here? Can I bump up my color space. Note: I do have my resolution and color deapth maxed out on my display. Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] backgrounds?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Mark Wagnon wrote: > Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > I used > > 'xv -root > > /location/image.gif' to do this by hand, but I cant seem to make the > > FvwmBacker work for me. I > > copied and pasted the sample script right out of the man page, removed > > the line with the image, and > > saved the file as .fvwm2rc. When I restarted my windows manager, I lost > > my tool bar and the ability > > to move my windows around, as well as some other functionality. > > You've got it right, but you need to add -quit as an option to xv so > that is puts the image up and returns control to the window manager. > Also, you may need to append an '&' to the end of the line. > > The string would look something like this: > > Exec "I" exec xv -root -quit /patjh to image/image.jpg > > Hope this helps. > > Mark > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Mark, Thanks for the help. I am still not getting what I expect. What is meant by an "FvwmBackerDesk 1" ? I notice that there are seven such "Desks". I originally thought that each of the six rectangles displayed in the left upper corner of the xvfm desktop represented a "Desk". The following sets all of what I think are Desks to steelblue: *FvwmBackerDesk 0 -solid steelblue # *FvwmBackerDesk 1 Exec xv -root -quit /temp/collage.gif *FvwmBackerDesk 1 -solid midnightblue *FvwmBackerDesk 2 -solid yellow *FvwmBackerDesk 3 -solid cadetblue2 *FvwmBackerDesk 5 -solid cadetblue3 *FvwmBackerDesk 6 -solid cadetblue4 Am I not understanding correctly what a desk is? Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: SIOCADDRT and SIOCSIFADDR errors
by jon＠wwwebservers.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Donn Washburn wrote: <WWW>Hey Groups: <WWW> <WWW>I have a complete lack of understanding what is <WWW>wrong with my "eth0" network on 2 machines. [snip-and-tuck] <WWW>Problem is if I do a "ifconfig /dev/eth0 <WWW>192.168.##.##" I get a error "SIOCSIFADDR: No such [snip some here too] This is a normal mistake with novice admins, /dev/eth0 is just a conocial path -- which is not needed with ethXX devices, also the SIOCSIFADDR is saying that the ethernet device is not registered -- it may be possible ifconfig does not parse properly with "/dev/" who knows.. I don't care to look at the source right now.. Try this command: bash# ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up if you still get that error, try setting the card to different settings or use the isapnp tools (if isa) or pcitools -- just released last month. btw: I am new to the group and I am looking forward to the fun times that are ahead. +-------- | Jon Torrez | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. | <A HREF="http://www.wwwebservers.com"><A HREF="http://www.wwwebservers.com</A">http://www.wwwebservers.com</A</A>> / jon(a)wwwebservers.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ghostview, and Apsfilter
by n5xwb＠inetport.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > Two problems here, > 1. When I view certain documents in ghostview, the size is set to A4, > but I want to print them in Letter size. Ghostview will not allow me > to change the media size. An example is the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" > document by Eric S. Raymond. I would like to print in Letter size, but > cannot - result is when I do attempt to print it, I lose the tail-end > of some pages. > Any ides, anyone? > 2. I tried to use the apsfilter setup utility > (/var/lib/apsfilter/SETUP). The main screen appears and asks for > <RETURN> to continue. This I do, then the script exits. ????? > Am I missing something?? > > Thanks in Advance > -- > Hey Dave: You might try editing the files /etc/apsfilterrc.xxxx (xxxx being your printer name) and /etc/apsfilterrc. My printer was setup to print horizontal on the page (like a book with facing pages). Fixed! 73 Donn aka n5xwb n5xwb(a)inetport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Ghostview, and Apsfilter
by n5xwb＠inetport.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > Two problems here, > 1. When I view certain documents in ghostview, the size is set to A4, > but I want to print them in Letter size. Ghostview will not allow me > to change the media size. An example is the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" > document by Eric S. Raymond. I would like to print in Letter size, but > cannot - result is when I do attempt to print it, I lose the tail-end > of some pages. > Any ides, anyone? > 2. I tried to use the apsfilter setup utility > (/var/lib/apsfilter/SETUP). The main screen appears and asks for > <RETURN> to continue. This I do, then the script exits. ????? > Am I missing something?? > > Thanks in Advance > -- > Hey Dave: You might try editing the files /etc/apsfilterrc.xxxx (xxxx being your printer name) and /etc/apsfilterrc. My printer was setup to print horizontal on the page (like a book with facing pages). Fixed! 73 Donn aka n5xwb n5xwb(a)inetport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST and "reachable directory"
by efh＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

In S.u.S.E. 5.1, YaST Adjustments of installation//Select installation medium//Help ays, about "Installation from a reachable directory": The installation from an accessible directory on your harddrive could be very useful if you are planning to install software which you got via "ftp" or from a mailbox. So, wanting to install kdat-1.01-1.i386.rpm which I had got from an ftp site, I put this file in /root/Kdat and started YaST. After Adjustments of installation//Select installation medium// Installation from a reachable directory// to the request " From which directory do you want to install?" I answered /root/Kdat to which the response was Could not find the installation directory. Please enter an existing directory. I then thought I would try to emulate the directory structure on the CD, so put the file into /root/Kdat/suse -- same result whichever directory I nominated; and then put it into /root/Kdat/suse/kdat (emulating the CD structure suse/a1 etc) with the same result whichever directory I nominated. So I conclude that YaST can not be used in this way to install an rpm that has been placed in a normal HD directory. Was I doing something wrong (but if so this is NOT evident from any documentation)? Any comments? With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <efh(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 22-Mar-98 Time: 19:44:44 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST / glibc
by deem＠wdm.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Kaare Rasmussen <kar(a)webline.dk> wrote: > > I found out by reading this mailing list that I can make a ftp install > with YaST, but > - it's not documented > - it's not even in the menus. You have to write it yourself > - There's no overview > - You can't install the system from scratch, only add packages > - You can't choose several packages from different directories > > I hope this will be easier in future versions. > I'm sure it will be. > Another point: RedHat started to use glibs with their 5.0 release. Does > S.u.S.E. have any plans to move towards glibc? > Yes, but gleefully not until some of the issues are worked out. I was an a Red Hat user from 2.0 thru 4.2, but when 5.0 came out, that's when I recieved my copy of SuSE and so glad I did. glibc will be mainstream but not until later this year. -Regards -Dee -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SIOCADDRT and SIOCSIFADDR errors
by n5xwb＠inetport.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Hey Groups: I have a complete lack of understanding what is wrong with my "eth0" network on 2 machines. First I always set linuxrc up with a network card (ne = io=0x6100 irq=11) and it seems that SuSE finds that card during normal bootup. So I assume that it is loaded in the kernel. It shows up on the bootup messages just after mounting the hard drive partitions along with Donald Beckers address saying it was found. Problem is if I do a "ifconfig /dev/eth0 192.168.##.##" I get a error "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device" Checking my two machines for "l /dev/et*" - > "No such file or directory". It appears that SuSE didn't make the device drivers (ex. mknod /dev/eth# # #). As I recall from version 5.0 SuSE (Linuxrc and Yast) created the device driver. "find" is unable to locate it. It is in "/etc/conf.modules" as "alias eth0 ne" which is "options ne io=0x6100 irq=11". I can add it using mknod but I am not sure of the major/minor number ( I also think of it as a block device) Any suggestions? How and/or where did I go wrong? Thanks 73 Donn aka n5xwb n5xwb(a)inetport.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST / glibc
by kar＠webline.dk 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

I found out by reading this mailing list that I can make a ftp install with YaST, but - it's not documented - it's not even in the menus. You have to write it yourself - There's no overview - You can't install the system from scratch, only add packages - You can't choose several packages from different directories I hope this will be easier in future versions. Another point: RedHat started to use glibs with their 5.0 release. Does S.u.S.E. have any plans to move towards glibc? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Ghostview, and Apsfilter
by dedwards＠technologist.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Two problems here, 1. When I view certain documents in ghostview, the size is set to A4, but I want to print them in Letter size. Ghostview will not allow me to change the media size. An example is the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" document by Eric S. Raymond. I would like to print in Letter size, but cannot - result is when I do attempt to print it, I lose the tail-end of some pages. Any ides, anyone? 2. I tried to use the apsfilter setup utility (/var/lib/apsfilter/SETUP). The main screen appears and asks for <RETURN> to continue. This I do, then the script exits. ????? Am I missing something?? Thanks in Advance -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mounting SMB ressources
by zentara＠mindspring.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Martin Moeller wrote: > > Hi! > > For some strange reason, smbmount always say 'invalid argument' when I > specify something that would equal a valid mount-line, like: > > smbmount //PETERPC/C /net/peterpc/c -n -I 123.123.123.124 -c MARTINPC > As root: Try smbmount //PETERPC/C /net/peterpc/c -I 123.123.123.124 and log onto the win95 machine as a linux user like peter. Make sure peter is a user defined in linux. When asked for a password, enters peter's linux password. You may have to also logon to the win95 machine as peter with his password to get write permissions, otherwise you get read-only. Also make sure /net/peterpc/c exists on your linux machine. Also make sure your names are matched up in win95 networking for identity, and make sure your smb.conf has the matching workgroup in it. And make sure win95 ethernet settings are correct and has 123.123.123.124 as its number. Finally make sure you have sharing enabled for C in win95. You probably just have a little mismatch in names. Play around, you'll find the right combination. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

john minyard wrote: > > zentara: Please tell me about Wyoming. I may move to that neck of the > woods in the next 18 months and would like to have some input on what > the area is like year around. > Hi, you have me confused with the expert who was answering the question. That is Richard Emerson <riche(a)trib.com> :-) I know it gets confusing when you are looking at who wrote what in these posts. I did live out west for awhile, and Wyoming is the last of the wide-open spaces. It's very beautiful around the Grand Tetons. Interestingly, one of the best land-crossings across the Rocky Mountains runs through Wyoming, there is a large flat gap in the mountains there. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] startx problems
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Mark Wagnon wrote: > S Pawlowicz wrote: > > > figure out how to alter my default window manager for my "root" login. X > > currently starts with Fvwm2. If I type "startx fvwm95", I still get > > fvwm2. I have managed to change default for other user's and the command > > line option works for all installed window managers under any login > > other than root. How do I change default window manager for "root"? > > > > > > You need to edit your ~/.xinitrc file to start fvwm. The way SuSE is set > up, I think it searches to see what's available then it loads the window > manager. I don't use fvwm2 because I'm not used to it so I use fvwm. You > can simply comment the lines that reference other window managers and > insert fvwm, fvwm95, or whatever your heart desires. My .xinitrc looks > like this: > > #!/bin/bash > # > # .xsession/.xinitrc > # > > export TERM=xterm > > # > # choose a window manager > # > > if test -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" ; then > WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 > fi > > # > # load resources > # > > if [ -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap ]; then > xmodmap /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap > fi > > if [ -f ~/.Xmodmap ]; then > xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap > fi > > if [ -f ~/.Xdefaults ]; then > xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults > fi > > if [ -f ~/.Xresources ]; then > xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources > fi > > # > # start some stuff > # > > # day planer deamon > pland & > > # > # finaly start the window manager > # > > # exec $WINDOWMANAGER > # fvwm > startkde > > As you can see, I am playing with kde right now, but before, I simply > commented the line that reads exec $WINDOWMANAGER and inserted fvwm > below it :) > > Hope this helps > > Mark > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e I've got the same problem, and part of the problem seems to be that their is no .xinitrc (or .bashrc for that matter) in the home directory for root. I've gotten around that problem mainly by logging on as a regular user and then have sudo setup where if necessary I can change to su to do whatever is necessary, (I've also got my mail set up to go to me as a regular user). I have tried copying a .bashrc and .xinitrc from my regular login and that didn't make a bit of difference. I've even changed the system .xinitrc so that fwm95 is launched as the default window manager, but it still doesn't do anything:-( (I've tried that also in Profile I think, (I gave it up and went on to other things after a bit)). cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re:
by netd＠fastrans.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Ruud de Bruin wrote: > Two questions: > > 1) Has somebody already installed a beta of 'icq' and is a rpm file > already available? There's "nothing to it" ... just download the java client, edit the 'install' file to point to the java directory, then run 'install' and then run 'ICQ'. If you're not sure what the path is to the java dirs, just do a 'which java' on the command line in an xterm.Plug that dir into the 'install' script. BTW .. I did some work for Mirabilis' backbone provider and they were under constant attack from ping floods and other mischief, so they don't have a reliable system. As much as I find AOL a complete irritant, I've found the AOL Messenger java client and their Instant Messenger Service much better. Their client is simple to install as well. It is kind of weird to see the AOL logo running an app under Linux ... as much as they have been maligned as the whore of babylon and the worst excuse for a national ISP, they at least have cross platform apps. Simply amazing ... and their client runs under Solaris too ... (ICQ does also) ... -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by pberry2＠bellsouth.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

To answer the quwstions: Target market is home systems, lets get Linux spread out among the populace, then maybe they can influence their boss or business. Did you see InfoWorld Browser Choice Poll winner was Red Hat with 37+ percent of the vote? Most systems sold for the $1000 and under market have a 14" SVGA monitor, which have fallen in price to about $140 locally. Video cards supplied standard are 1mb right now, with 2mb as upgrade, and let the customer choose and buy 3d and special cards later on their own. Forget backup tape, disc, or other backup for now, as part of a discount system, Upgrade offered at fair market prices. We are dealing with mostly windoze users, who I hear often saying "what is a backup?" Such a large job swaying them to ignore the hype of years of advertising, as it is. We build these ourselves, to a standard, then upgrade with options as required. Have FREE cdrom from Linux Mall, and Linux will be on the 3.2 GB Hard Drive Haven't heard any offers from InfoMagic or S.U.S.E. to provide a bundled copy of Linux for each machine like Linux Mall has done, plus very nice discounted priced package of other Linux CD-roms. When I have found the pricing of the CDrom discounts from Linux Mall, and as the hardware prices drop, I hope to bundle it all together. The target price of $800 retail is attainable, as your lists show. Robert Drzyzgula wrote: > Not to bash anyone, but I don't feel like the original question has > been answered, even though it was, to me, a pretty interesting one. > > I've thought about it a little and have some ideas, but there were > quite a few considerations left unspoken: > > * What is the target market? Are these business systems or home > systems? > * Servers or workstations? > * What kinds of communications facilities would be required... > Modem? Ethernet? ISDN? > * How good a monitor (at $800, you can blow your whole budget on a > monitor, no sweat...) On a server, clearly you need only be able to > configure the system, so an el cheapo monchrome unit would do... > For a home/websurfing unit would TV output be sufficient? > * Is this for gaming? WebSurfing? Is 3D Support required? High > resolution/performance? > * What would be more important... stability or performance? > * Will tape backup be a neccesity for your target market? > * Are you an integrator or just a reseller? Can you cobble these > things together yourselves or do you need COTS finished units > in a box? > * What Memory/disk space requirements do you envision? > * How do you rank all these things in priority? What would you give up > first to cut the price? > > Now If I were going to try to put together a solid Linux Box to stamp > out and sell at a eye-catching price, I'd probably do something like > this: > > $ 85 DFI P5XV3 (ATX VP-3 MB, 512KB, not O/C-able but rock stable) > $100 Intel or AMD processor, whatever you can get at this price > $ 45 EIDE CD-ROM, Whatever you can get in overstock, 12X or higher > $ 40 Rockwell (non win-modem) 33.6 Modem (Acer?) > $ 50 One 32MB SDRAM DIMM, 10ns > $ 40 Jaton 67TV 2MB video card (explicit SuSE X support, TV output) > $140 Fujitsu MPA3032ATA 3.2GB Drive (great warranty) > $ 15 3.5" Floppy > $ 25 Generic Sound Card (which sound chips work well in Linux?) > $ 10 Basic Speakers > $ 25 IBM Win95 Keyboard > $ 13 Logitech OEM Mouse (PS/2) > $ 12 High-quality Ball-bearing HS & Fan, with tach for DFI board > $ 40 Basic ATX Chassis & Power Supply > $140 Basic 14" 1024x768 .28 Monitor > $ 50 SuSE Distribution & Manual > > This gets it down to about $825, and I think that the result should be > pretty functional. One might be able to push it under $800 with volume > purchases of some of the parts. The IBM keyboard and Logitech mouse are > possible targets for cutting back, but these parts do have a substantial > impact on a customer's perception of quality. This system also has a > great deal of headroom for upgrades should the user outgrow the basic > configuration. > > Also in the perception category, one thing that I personally would do > to make the system *seem* more substantial would be to spend a little > extra on the chassis. It would add about $200 to the price (for a total > price tag more like $1000) but I particularly like the products from > California PC Products (<A HREF="http://www.calpc.com"><A HREF="http://www.calpc.com</A">http://www.calpc.com</A</A>>). They are reasonably > expensive as chassis go (don't try to buy one or two... the prices > only get tolerable in moderate quantities), but are made completely > of heavy-weight steel and use top-grade power supplies. The mid-tower > chassis outfitted with casters & fenders is wonderfully roomy to work in > and easy to move around. If you are selling to business these would make > an impressive product that would capture attention and scream "quality". > > I know that this isn't what most hardware geeks (myself included) would > put together for themselves, but we are talking (I thought) about > putting out a stable product in moderate volumes that will give people > a perception of quality and reliability, in part to build a mainstream > image for Linux. I'd be interested to know how other people would > modify this design to make it more suitable for mainstream buyers > who are looking for a solution platform rather than a hot-rod. > > --Bob Drzyzgula > bob(a)mostly.com > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sendmail questions.
by stefan.troeger＠wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Hi, On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 19:15 +0100, Simone Castellaneta wrote: > > I' m trying to configure Sendmail to work in offline mode (I have a PPP > dialup connection) but I' m not so sure about what I' m doing. I' ve found > some values in /etc/rc.config. [...] Have a look at /etc/mail/README. It explains the sendmail options that can be set in /etc/rc.config. Ciao Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by pberry2＠bellsouth.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Wow, you should write for television! Your scenario is just what is running on Miami Vice I think, as I don't watch much TV since I found out about Linux, S.U.S.E. and the web! So, I have found a little more out about building a box, but not enough to define a commercially viable product, yet. Business is open, but product on hold 'til reliability is standard. Will attend more Linux meetings at LUG's and do alot of thinking and testing. The Lab is busy, but only Santa, no elves yet. I am hoping to define a standard of use that makes for a good tool. Reminds me of the teen of the sixties who built his own hot rod, learning as he went. No one in Corporate America really got a domineering position in the after market hardware business as pertains to the end product, which was defined by the kids building the rods. The whole engineering of the end product was done out in the real world. zentara wrote: > Andrew L. Davis wrote: > > >>> zentara wrote: > > > The "selling point" would be getting $500 dollar NT Server > > > "functionality"; at a lower cost. > > > > > > Of course, Microsoft would probably retaliate > > > by dropping the price for NT Server, then make the > > > money back by expensive "service contracts" to fix > > > their bugs. :-) > > > > I don't think the money is an issue for most people? What I have seen is > > that most Companies can get NT with all the bells and whisles for much less > > than micro$oft leads us to believe. A 25 client license with everything is > > under 1000 dollars; to buy all of the software in peices would cost 5000 > > dollars or more. Plus most Consultants once they spend the money to get > > micro$oft certified seem to think that they now have to use MS products to > > get there moneys worth. I would like to get MS certified so that I would be > > able to offer the best solution to the problem. The consultants here in > > Louisville seem to think that there is only one solution to the problem and > > that is micro$oft. I assume that these are people who come from Novell > > backrounds because I refuse to believe that someone with Unix experience > > would think that there is only one solution. These people are also making the > > firewall the same machine that does the file serving and web hosting for these > > companies. The only thing protecting them is animosity and the sheer numbers > > of people now connecting to the internet. > > Ya, I would bet that the reality is that there is a "built-in" > corporate "old-boys" network making most of the descisions. > Alot of it has to do with corporate "backscratching", > and political contributions...not technical merits. > > Most of these executives don't know a thing about their > computer systems, but see alot of cool Microsoft TV commercials, > respect the "stock-market standing" of Microsoft, and generally > just feel it's safer to be "on-the-bandwagon". > They also know that for some bucks, they can get all their > questions answered by expensive tech support. > The real computer professionals are not in the "descision-making" > end of big businesses. > I've seen alot of "engineers" who couldn't function without > Windows... gotta have Excel, PowerPoint, etc. Put them at a > command line interface, and they think the system is broken. > > Plus now alot of people are worrying about the "security" > of their Microsoft systems, when the source code isn't out in > the open. > When some nattily dressed saleperson from Microsoft says > "trust us"; would you? > I have this idea for a great movie, where a foreign mob > buys up all Microsoft stock, and makes a takeover. Then > all the corporations who are totally reliant on Microsoft, > have fits as there machines are tampered with. They will > all yell "why didn't the government do something", ha, ha, ha. > It would put the Year2000 problem in perspective. > > I think the real battle should be in the schools. Linux is so > powerful and cheap, that it should be the choice of all school > systems. Imagine starting to learn Perl, and C in 8th grade, > and being able to afford it on your home computer so you can do > your homework. > Only kids from rich families could afford to get NT, Visual Basic, > and Visual C, on their home computers. > > Linux is a far better choice as a "standard" for the world. :-) > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by pberry2＠bellsouth.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Thank you for your really great suggestions. I am watching the prices of PC's at retail plumet, in all the big chains around me, and they are including Win95 in a 200 mhz box for $1100! I am watching the local volume discounters in my area sell the similar machine (assembled on premises) for $799.00 without operating system. I know that I can squeeze a little out of the cost of some components as prices drop, and when volume rises. Right now, I want a stable machine, at an entry level price, for individuals and the small business. Robert Drzyzgula wrote: > Not to bash anyone, but I don't feel like the original question has > been answered, even though it was, to me, a pretty interesting one. > > I've thought about it a little and have some ideas, but there were > quite a few considerations left unspoken: > > * What is the target market? Are these business systems or home > systems? > * Servers or workstations? > * What kinds of communications facilities would be required... > Modem? Ethernet? ISDN? > * How good a monitor (at $800, you can blow your whole budget on a > monitor, no sweat...) On a server, clearly you need only be able to > configure the system, so an el cheapo monchrome unit would do... > For a home/websurfing unit would TV output be sufficient? > * Is this for gaming? WebSurfing? Is 3D Support required? High > resolution/performance? > * What would be more important... stability or performance? > * Will tape backup be a neccesity for your target market? > * Are you an integrator or just a reseller? Can you cobble these > things together yourselves or do you need COTS finished units > in a box? > * What Memory/disk space requirements do you envision? > * How do you rank all these things in priority? What would you give up > first to cut the price? > > Now If I were going to try to put together a solid Linux Box to stamp > out and sell at a eye-catching price, I'd probably do something like > this: > > $ 85 DFI P5XV3 (ATX VP-3 MB, 512KB, not O/C-able but rock stable) > $100 Intel or AMD processor, whatever you can get at this price > $ 45 EIDE CD-ROM, Whatever you can get in overstock, 12X or higher > $ 40 Rockwell (non win-modem) 33.6 Modem (Acer?) > $ 50 One 32MB SDRAM DIMM, 10ns > $ 40 Jaton 67TV 2MB video card (explicit SuSE X support, TV output) > $140 Fujitsu MPA3032ATA 3.2GB Drive (great warranty) > $ 15 3.5" Floppy > $ 25 Generic Sound Card (which sound chips work well in Linux?) > $ 10 Basic Speakers > $ 25 IBM Win95 Keyboard > $ 13 Logitech OEM Mouse (PS/2) > $ 12 High-quality Ball-bearing HS & Fan, with tach for DFI board > $ 40 Basic ATX Chassis & Power Supply > $140 Basic 14" 1024x768 .28 Monitor > $ 50 SuSE Distribution & Manual > > This gets it down to about $825, and I think that the result should be > pretty functional. One might be able to push it under $800 with volume > purchases of some of the parts. The IBM keyboard and Logitech mouse are > possible targets for cutting back, but these parts do have a substantial > impact on a customer's perception of quality. This system also has a > great deal of headroom for upgrades should the user outgrow the basic > configuration. > > Also in the perception category, one thing that I personally would do > to make the system *seem* more substantial would be to spend a little > extra on the chassis. It would add about $200 to the price (for a total > price tag more like $1000) but I particularly like the products from > California PC Products (<A HREF="http://www.calpc.com"><A HREF="http://www.calpc.com</A">http://www.calpc.com</A</A>>). They are reasonably > expensive as chassis go (don't try to buy one or two... the prices > only get tolerable in moderate quantities), but are made completely > of heavy-weight steel and use top-grade power supplies. The mid-tower > chassis outfitted with casters & fenders is wonderfully roomy to work in > and easy to move around. If you are selling to business these would make > an impressive product that would capture attention and scream "quality". > > I know that this isn't what most hardware geeks (myself included) would > put together for themselves, but we are talking (I thought) about > putting out a stable product in moderate volumes that will give people > a perception of quality and reliability, in part to build a mainstream > image for Linux. I'd be interested to know how other people would > modify this design to make it more suitable for mainstream buyers > who are looking for a solution platform rather than a hot-rod. > > --Bob Drzyzgula > bob(a)mostly.com > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] zip drive experience
by efh＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

On 21-Mar-98 xerxes1 wrote: > > Hi all, > > I ran across a Linux hardware compatibility faq on the web. It said > that zip drives were supported. Any body have any experience with this > beast? What's your .02? Thanks. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e I use the "parallel-port" version of the ZIP drive on S.u.S.E. (This has the advantage that I can carry the same drive to any PC with a parallel port and use the drive with its software driver, whether the machine has SCSI or not). Connect the drive to the port, power it up, and from the console enter modprobe ppa This then attaches it to /dev/sda4 as a "quasi-SCSI" device. You can put a ZIP disk in as bought and it has a DOS filesystem on it. If you wish you can reformat the disk to have a Linux filesystem on it with the command mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda4 BEFORE mounting the device. I have two directories /ZIP and /zip and entries in /etc/fstab: /dev/sda4 /ZIP msdos rw,user,noauto,suid 0 2 /dev/sda4 /zip ext2 rw,user,noauto,suid 0 2 o that mount /ZIP mounts the ZIP disk as a DOS fs on /ZIP, and mount /zip mounts it as a Linux fs on /zip (of course if the disk has the wrong type of FS on it then the mount will fail). From that point on you use it like any other filesystem of the appropriate type. In order to be able to remove the disk you have to unmount it as well as pressing the "eject" button on the drive: umount /ZIP or umount /zip for the above directories. It's all very straightforward! Ted, -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <efh(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 22-Mar-98 Time: 09:56:04 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] startx problems
by pwlwcz＠ibm.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Mark Wagnon wrote: > You need to edit your ~/.xinitrc file to start fvwm. The way SuSE is set > up, I think it searches to see what's available then it loads the window > manager. ... > > I didn't seem to have a .xinitrc file in my root directory (?). I copied one from another user's /home directory and now X starts with the window manager specified in that file. Why didn't I have an .xinitrc file for root and how did "startx" work at all without one? I guess I'm just not clear on the concept... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP after login
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

a couple of commands that I found very helpful: route (shows the route that the computer uses to direct packet traffic) route add ip.ad.dr.ess (numerical IP here -- adds your isp nameserver to the route immediately) ifconfig (tells you what devices are currently running eg:ppp0 and eth0 and lo) use the man pages on these commands to help you understand how they work mc Ron Lavoie wrote: > I've (finally) got ppp to work. Ican dial in log on, but that's it. My > phone line is engaged, but I can't do anything. When I try Arena, I can't > connect to the server. I'm pretty sure my ISP's Nameserver is entered > correctly. > > What can I do to confirm that I *am* connected to my ISP? What should I do > next to debug? > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] StarOffice 3.1
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

This is probably not the right place to ask this question but has anyone had any problems with printing to an HP600C (or similar HP printer) from StarOffice, in particular StarWriter. Interestingly I have success in some of the Star applications (usually graphical apps) and not in the Office, Math, Chart. Do I need some sort of extra filter for apfilter? ---------------------------------- Arlen Carlson adcarlso(a)visinet.ca Rocky's Lemma of Innovation Prevention Unless the results are known in advance, funding agencies will reject the proposal. This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Dark Printing
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Has anyone had a problem with excessively dark printing when using HP Deskjets via apfilter? Mine seems to just pour out the black, particularly for graphics. Straight text seems to be ok. ---------------------------------- Arlen Carlson adcarlso(a)visinet.ca A long memory is the most subversive idea in America. This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Mounting SMB ressources
by martin_moeller＠ibm.net 22 Mar '98

22 Mar '98

Hi! For some strange reason, smbmount always say 'invalid argument' when I specify something that would equal a valid mount-line, like: mbmount //PETERPC/C /net/peterpc/c -n -I 123.123.123.124 -c MARTINPC I know 123.123 is not really smart, but hey: That was before I found the english postscript version of the SuSE manual on your FTP site. For some reason, it didn't seem to be on the InfoMagic CD's... The above smbmount (though the other way around) -used- to work from my fathers machine (MARTINPC <-> PETERPC and IP -1) but it doesn't seem to get through anymore. It doesn't say 'invalid argument', however. My fathers machine currently has RedHat 5.0 on it with 2.0.31 kernel. I have SuSE 5.1 with 2.1.85 kernel with smbfs compiled into the kernel, so I'm rather baffled at this. Is it smbmount that is defective? -- --- e-mail: martin_moeller(a)technologist.com - an iName service for life(?) Martin Moeller, Denmark - Signing off. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] What are we dealing with here?
by chris123＠netcom.ca 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Hope this helps: Found this great article on a ideal Linux box last night that may be appropriate to this list. Have a look at <A HREF="http://sagan.earthspace.net/~esr/writings/lj-howtobuild.html"><A HREF="http://sagan.earthspace.net/~esr/writings/lj-howtobuild.html</A">http://sagan.earthspace.net/~esr/writings/lj-howtobuild.html</A</A>> Interestingly enough, I was just considering upgrading my 133/32/2G/33.6vf dmodem box that I must share with win95 partition. The article make so much sence, but Im not sure its within your budget requirements. If you play with this concepts expressed in the article however, Im sure you could get pretty darn close though and build a wickedly stable, fast, multipurpose Linux Machine. Best regards Chris -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] zip drive experience
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

On 21 Mar, xerxes1 wrote: > > Hi all, > > I ran across a Linux hardware compatibility faq on the web. It said > that zip drives were supported. Any body have any experience with this > beast? What's your .02? Thanks. > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e I use a extermal scsi zip drive to share information between work and home. I have had no problems thus far. I also have had a internal jaz drive installed but seemed to have problems with it timing out or erroring when the system booted. The zip drive I mount as /zip and I also believe you can use mtools to work with it. I have not tried this but did read about some config options with mtools. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by minyard＠bga.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

zentara: Please tell me about Wyoming. I may move to that neck of the woods in the next 18 months and would like to have some input on what the area is like year around. juanito -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] startx problems
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

S Pawlowicz wrote: > figure out how to alter my default window manager for my "root" login. X > currently starts with Fvwm2. If I type "startx fvwm95", I still get > fvwm2. I have managed to change default for other user's and the command > line option works for all installed window managers under any login > other than root. How do I change default window manager for "root"? > > You need to edit your ~/.xinitrc file to start fvwm. The way SuSE is set up, I think it searches to see what's available then it loads the window manager. I don't use fvwm2 because I'm not used to it so I use fvwm. You can simply comment the lines that reference other window managers and insert fvwm, fvwm95, or whatever your heart desires. My .xinitrc looks like this: #!/bin/bash # # .xsession/.xinitrc # export TERM=xterm # # choose a window manager # if test -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" ; then WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 fi # # load resources # if [ -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap fi if [ -f ~/.Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap fi if [ -f ~/.Xdefaults ]; then xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults fi if [ -f ~/.Xresources ]; then xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources fi # # start some stuff # # day planer deamon pland & # # finaly start the window manager # # exec $WINDOWMANAGER # fvwm startkde As you can see, I am playing with kde right now, but before, I simply commented the line that reads exec $WINDOWMANAGER and inserted fvwm below it :) Hope this helps Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] backgrounds?
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 06:35:51AM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Hi, > > Now that I got my Linux box to dial up, I would like to ask one of the > most important newbie > questions. How do I automatically set my Fvwm2 backgrounds. I used > 'xv -root > /location/image.gif' to do this by hand, but I cant seem to make the > FvwmBacker work for me. I > copied and pasted the sample script right out of the man page, removed > the line with the image, and > saved the file as .fvwm2rc. When I restarted my windows manager, I lost > my tool bar and the ability > to move my windows around, as well as some other functionality. Does > any one know a simple way > to accomplish this? This is what I have in my .fvwm2rc ######################### Initialization Functions ########################### AddToFunc InitFunction "I" Module FvwmButtons + "I" Module FvwmAuto 500 raise nop + "I" exec xbiff -rv + "I" exec nscal #+ "I" Module FvwmAudio + "I" exec xv -quit -root -random -rmode 0 /usr/include/ X11/backround/* AddToFunc RestartFunction "I" Module FvwmButtons + "I" Module FvwmAuto 500 raise nop #+ "I" Module FvwmAudio + "I" exec xv -quit -root -random -rmode 0 /usr/include/ X11/backround/* This allows me to have random backrounds so that I have something different to look at everytime I log in. You can add the images you want to be your backrounds in the directory. I still use xv because my Unix experience started from HP-UX. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 12:55:26PM +0000, Robert Drzyzgula wrote: > > Not to bash anyone, but I don't feel like the original question has > been answered, even though it was, to me, a pretty interesting one. > > I've thought about it a little and have some ideas, but there were > quite a few considerations left unspoken: > > * What is the target market? Are these business systems or home > systems? > * Servers or workstations? business systems, servers > * What kinds of communications facilities would be required... > Modem? Ethernet? ISDN? Ethernet, for most of the people I deal with. I work for a wireless internet provider; we provide speeds anywhere from ISDN to T1. > * How good a monitor (at $800, you can blow your whole budget on a > monitor, no sweat...) On a server, clearly you need only be able to > configure the system, so an el cheapo monchrome unit would do... > For a home/websurfing unit would TV output be sufficient? > * Is this for gaming? WebSurfing? Is 3D Support required? High > resolution/performance? Cheap, cheap, they only have servers > * What would be more important... stability or performance? > * Will tape backup be a neccesity for your target market? > * Are you an integrator or just a reseller? Can you cobble these > things together yourselves or do you need COTS finished units > in a box? > * What Memory/disk space requirements do you envision? 32 meg or maybe 64 meg Memory and about 6 gig HD. For the same functionality on a NT box you would need at least 128 meg for memory and a PII processor. > * How do you rank all these things in priority? What would you give up > first to cut the price? > > Now If I were going to try to put together a solid Linux Box to stamp > out and sell at a eye-catching price, I'd probably do something like > this: > > $ 85 DFI P5XV3 (ATX VP-3 MB, 512KB, not O/C-able but rock stable) > $100 Intel or AMD processor, whatever you can get at this price > $ 45 EIDE CD-ROM, Whatever you can get in overstock, 12X or higher > $ 40 Rockwell (non win-modem) 33.6 Modem (Acer?) > $ 50 One 32MB SDRAM DIMM, 10ns > $ 40 Jaton 67TV 2MB video card (explicit SuSE X support, TV output) > $140 Fujitsu MPA3032ATA 3.2GB Drive (great warranty) > $ 15 3.5" Floppy > $ 25 Generic Sound Card (which sound chips work well in Linux?) > $ 10 Basic Speakers > $ 25 IBM Win95 Keyboard > $ 13 Logitech OEM Mouse (PS/2) > $ 12 High-quality Ball-bearing HS & Fan, with tach for DFI board > $ 40 Basic ATX Chassis & Power Supply > $140 Basic 14" 1024x768 .28 Monitor > $ 50 SuSE Distribution & Manual > > This gets it down to about $825, and I think that the result should be > pretty functional. One might be able to push it under $800 with volume > purchases of some of the parts. The IBM keyboard and Logitech mouse are > possible targets for cutting back, but these parts do have a substantial > impact on a customer's perception of quality. This system also has a > great deal of headroom for upgrades should the user outgrow the basic > configuration. > > Also in the perception category, one thing that I personally would do > to make the system *seem* more substantial would be to spend a little > extra on the chassis. It would add about $200 to the price (for a total > price tag more like $1000) but I particularly like the products from > California PC Products (<A HREF="http://www.calpc.com"><A HREF="http://www.calpc.com</A">http://www.calpc.com</A</A>>). They are reasonably > expensive as chassis go (don't try to buy one or two... the prices > only get tolerable in moderate quantities), but are made completely > of heavy-weight steel and use top-grade power supplies. The mid-tower > chassis outfitted with casters & fenders is wonderfully roomy to work in > and easy to move around. If you are selling to business these would make > an impressive product that would capture attention and scream "quality". > > I know that this isn't what most hardware geeks (myself included) would > put together for themselves, but we are talking (I thought) about > putting out a stable product in moderate volumes that will give people > a perception of quality and reliability, in part to build a mainstream > image for Linux. I'd be interested to know how other people would > modify this design to make it more suitable for mainstream buyers > who are looking for a solution platform rather than a hot-rod. everything else you mentioned would be perfect for home use. The same configuration would work for business but with a bigger hard drive no sound, speakers, mouse, a cheaper video card and maybe add some sort of backup system. This machine would be doing mail, web hosting, file serving, acting as firewall and connecting everybody to the internet at the same time. All this for around 1500 dollars give or take some. A similar NT product would cost 6000 dollars and that is only for 25 people. I guess my beef is that the consultants around here think that this is the perfect solution, even better than anything that might be out there. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] tkrat rpm and making the 1.1 version
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Anyone successfully compiled tkrat 1.1 out there from the tgz? I get a lot of undefined references in /usr/X11R6/lib/libtk8.0. The rpm version installs without a problem. Just call me curious. Also anyone applied the patch upgrade to tkrat instead? Thanks. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] zip drive experience
by xerxes1＠ix.netcom.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Hi all, I ran across a Linux hardware compatibility faq on the web. It said that zip drives were supported. Any body have any experience with this beast? What's your .02? Thanks. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] backgrounds?
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

On 21 Mar, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Hi, > > Now that I got my Linux box to dial up, I would like to ask one of the > most important newbie > questions. How do I automatically set my Fvwm2 backgrounds. I used > 'xv -root > /location/image.gif' to do this by hand, but I cant seem to make the > FvwmBacker work for me. I > copied and pasted the sample script right out of the man page, removed > the line with the image, and > saved the file as .fvwm2rc. When I restarted my windows manager, I lost > my tool bar and the ability > to move my windows around, as well as some other functionality. Does > any one know a simple way > to accomplish this? > > Steve > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e If you cut and pasted a script and called it .fvwm2rc it sounds like you may have overwritten the .fvwm2rc that was there before that contained all your regular settings for the fvwm modules, etc that normally started. I would regenerate a .fvwm2rc file using the windows manager configuration option that allows you to regenerate a .fvwm2rc file in your home directory and try adding the following lines within the part of .fvwm2rc which starts things. My excerpt of this area is like this: AddToFunc InitFunction + "I" Module FvwmBanner # + "I" Module FvwmButtons + "I" Exec xterm -sb -title "XTerm" -geometry +150+85 + "I" Exec tkdesk + "I" Exec xeyes -geometry 50x50+0+650 + "I" Module FvwmPager 0 0 # initialization specific to fvwm2 + "I" Exec xosview -geometry 175x135-10-10 # end function InitFunction You would add to the .fvwm2rc file something like: + "I" Module FvwmBacker Then you would add the following in the .fvwm2rc file after the init section I presume. # Set Up Backgrounds for different desktops. *FvwmBackerDesk 0 -solid steelblue *FvwmBackerDesk 1 -solid midnightblue *FvwmBackerDesk 2 -solid yellow *FvwmBackerDesk 3 Exec xpmroot /usr/include/X11/pixmaps/background2.xpm It looks like to me that you would change the colors to the extreme right of each FvwmBackerDesk for the color you want or image or whatever.Please note I have not used this module before. I perused the man page for FvwmBacker only. The path that includes teh xpmroot command appears to point at a specific path and folder. You may want to verify that that is correct for SuSE. -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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-- KEIN SUBJECT --
by rdebruin＠willow.demon.nl 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Two questions: 1) Has somebody already installed a beta of 'icq' and is a rpm file already available? 2) I have read SuSE 5.2 (german) will be available starting 25 March. I've read no announcement of the english international version. Is there already a release date known? Regards, Ruud. -- The average woman would rather have beauty than brains because the average man can see better than he can think. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sendmail questions.
by scastell＠wavenet.it 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

I' m trying to configure Sendmail to work in offline mode (I have a PPP dialup connection) but I' m not so sure about what I' m doing. I' ve found some values in /etc/rc.config. I don' t know if I can modify this file by hand or via Yast. How? SENDMAIL_TYPE="yes" SENDMAIL_SMARTHOST="" What should I set here? My provider' s SMTP server address? SENDMAIL_LOCALHOST="localhost" SENDMAIL_RELAY="" Same question as above: should I set here my provider' s SMTP server address? SENDMAIL_ARGS="-bd -q30m -om" As comment says, I should remove only "-q30m" value, right? SENDMAIL_EXPENSIVE="no" I think I should set this value to "yes" (?). SENDMAIL_NOCANONIFY="no" Description tells to set this "yes" if SENDMAIL_EXPENSIVE is set to "yes". Which value should I put? After I' ve finished editing these values, how can I make them effective? Do I have only to reboot the machine or, before, I have to run "/sbin/SuSEconfig" as comments seem to suggest? To run Sendmail in offline mode, do I need a DNS server up and running on my machine? Thanks for your help. Bye. P.S.: One question that doesn' t matter with Sendmail: I' ve found a nice executable in /usr/sbin called "icmpinfo". Man page says: "Icmpinfo is a tool for looking at the ICMP messages received on the running host. It can be used to detect and record 'bombs'...". I would like to start the executable at boot time (and of course stop it at system shutdown). How can I do this? Thanks again. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Robert Drzyzgula wrote: > > > * What is the target market? Are these business systems or home > systems? I think your current list is targetted at a home system. It seems that if you want to go "bigtime" with Linux, you need an SCSI interface. Then you could get a SCSI combo cd-reader-writer for backups, plus hardrives. It would also make it easy for you to sell "upgrades" like scanners. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Andrew L. Davis wrote: >>> zentara wrote: > > The "selling point" would be getting $500 dollar NT Server > > "functionality"; at a lower cost. > > > > Of course, Microsoft would probably retaliate > > by dropping the price for NT Server, then make the > > money back by expensive "service contracts" to fix > > their bugs. :-) > > I don't think the money is an issue for most people? What I have seen is > that most Companies can get NT with all the bells and whisles for much less > than micro$oft leads us to believe. A 25 client license with everything is > under 1000 dollars; to buy all of the software in peices would cost 5000 > dollars or more. Plus most Consultants once they spend the money to get > micro$oft certified seem to think that they now have to use MS products to > get there moneys worth. I would like to get MS certified so that I would be > able to offer the best solution to the problem. The consultants here in > Louisville seem to think that there is only one solution to the problem and > that is micro$oft. I assume that these are people who come from Novell > backrounds because I refuse to believe that someone with Unix experience > would think that there is only one solution. These people are also making the > firewall the same machine that does the file serving and web hosting for these > companies. The only thing protecting them is animosity and the sheer numbers > of people now connecting to the internet. Ya, I would bet that the reality is that there is a "built-in" corporate "old-boys" network making most of the descisions. Alot of it has to do with corporate "backscratching", and political contributions...not technical merits. Most of these executives don't know a thing about their computer systems, but see alot of cool Microsoft TV commercials, respect the "stock-market standing" of Microsoft, and generally just feel it's safer to be "on-the-bandwagon". They also know that for some bucks, they can get all their questions answered by expensive tech support. The real computer professionals are not in the "descision-making" end of big businesses. I've seen alot of "engineers" who couldn't function without Windows... gotta have Excel, PowerPoint, etc. Put them at a command line interface, and they think the system is broken. Plus now alot of people are worrying about the "security" of their Microsoft systems, when the source code isn't out in the open. When some nattily dressed saleperson from Microsoft says "trust us"; would you? I have this idea for a great movie, where a foreign mob buys up all Microsoft stock, and makes a takeover. Then all the corporations who are totally reliant on Microsoft, have fits as there machines are tampered with. They will all yell "why didn't the government do something", ha, ha, ha. It would put the Year2000 problem in perspective. I think the real battle should be in the schools. Linux is so powerful and cheap, that it should be the choice of all school systems. Imagine starting to learn Perl, and C in 8th grade, and being able to afford it on your home computer so you can do your homework. Only kids from rich families could afford to get NT, Visual Basic, and Visual C, on their home computers. Linux is a far better choice as a "standard" for the world. :-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] backgrounds?
by deem＠wdm.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

"Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> wrote: > > Hi, > > Now that I got my Linux box to dial up, I would like to ask one of the > most important newbie > questions. How do I automatically set my Fvwm2 backgrounds. I used > 'xv -root > /location/image.gif' to do this by hand, but I cant seem to make the > FvwmBacker work for me. I > copied and pasted the sample script right out of the man page, removed > the line with the image, and > saved the file as .fvwm2rc. When I restarted my windows manager, I lost > my tool bar and the ability > to move my windows around, as well as some other functionality. Does > any one know a simple way > to accomplish this? > > Steve Hi Steve, If you look under the button named FVWM2, there is a button to to Create a .fvwm2rc file in your home sub-directory. By doing this, you will be able to edit properties and change the backgrounds from the popup menus. -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem(a)wdm.com No claim to fame, just saved by Grace. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] backgrounds?
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > I used > 'xv -root > /location/image.gif' to do this by hand, but I cant seem to make the > FvwmBacker work for me. I > copied and pasted the sample script right out of the man page, removed > the line with the image, and > saved the file as .fvwm2rc. When I restarted my windows manager, I lost > my tool bar and the ability > to move my windows around, as well as some other functionality. You've got it right, but you need to add -quit as an option to xv so that is puts the image up and returns control to the window manager. Also, you may need to append an '&' to the end of the line. The string would look something like this: Exec "I" exec xv -root -quit /patjh to image/image.jpg Hope this helps. Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] startx problems
by pwlwcz＠ibm.net 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Hello, I've installed SuSE 5.1 and I have a few questions. I can't seem to figure out how to alter my default window manager for my "root" login. X currently starts with Fvwm2. If I type "startx fvwm95", I still get fvwm2. I have managed to change default for other user's and the command line option works for all installed window managers under any login other than root. How do I change default window manager for "root"? An unrelated problem I am having has to do with my text console. I have a Matrox Mystique video card. I am not using svgatext. My console font is set up to whatever the default font is on installation. My problem is my text display gets "corrupted" if left on. If my default screen saver comes on and I then hit a key to bring the screen back, the characters are unreadable. they may even just show up as white blocks. Shutdown and reboot clears it up temporarily. This "corruption" also shows up if I start YAST from the console. I get alot of black dots on the background and the characters are not well drawn. None of this happens under X. What have I done wrong and how do I fix it? I would like to say that I have tried Debian, Caldera , LinuxPro and RedHat, and I would say that SuSE is my favorite. The book that came with the distribution is outstanding. I truly appreciate any assistance you can extend. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiling xcopilot
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Has anyone successfully compiled xcopilot out there? First, it won't compile because some headers are missing; X11/Xpm.h and X11/Xext.h but I can't find out where they are in the distribution! Second, it dies messily after it loses the files above, almost like the source is corrupted. I'm probably wrong, but does anyone have a precompiled binary anywhere (if that's possible)? I just got a Pilot and have the ultimate goal of programming for it (BTW Linux pilot-link software is AWESOME) Thanks --- Jonathan Markevich <jonathan(a)aracnet.net> "Being disintegrated makes me ve-ry an-gry!" <huff, huff> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] What we are dealing with.
by bob＠mostly.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Not to bash anyone, but I don't feel like the original question has been answered, even though it was, to me, a pretty interesting one. I've thought about it a little and have some ideas, but there were quite a few considerations left unspoken: * What is the target market? Are these business systems or home systems? * Servers or workstations? * What kinds of communications facilities would be required... Modem? Ethernet? ISDN? * How good a monitor (at $800, you can blow your whole budget on a monitor, no sweat...) On a server, clearly you need only be able to configure the system, so an el cheapo monchrome unit would do... For a home/websurfing unit would TV output be sufficient? * Is this for gaming? WebSurfing? Is 3D Support required? High resolution/performance? * What would be more important... stability or performance? * Will tape backup be a neccesity for your target market? * Are you an integrator or just a reseller? Can you cobble these things together yourselves or do you need COTS finished units in a box? * What Memory/disk space requirements do you envision? * How do you rank all these things in priority? What would you give up first to cut the price? Now If I were going to try to put together a solid Linux Box to stamp out and sell at a eye-catching price, I'd probably do something like this: $ 85 DFI P5XV3 (ATX VP-3 MB, 512KB, not O/C-able but rock stable) $100 Intel or AMD processor, whatever you can get at this price $ 45 EIDE CD-ROM, Whatever you can get in overstock, 12X or higher $ 40 Rockwell (non win-modem) 33.6 Modem (Acer?) $ 50 One 32MB SDRAM DIMM, 10ns $ 40 Jaton 67TV 2MB video card (explicit SuSE X support, TV output) $140 Fujitsu MPA3032ATA 3.2GB Drive (great warranty) $ 15 3.5" Floppy $ 25 Generic Sound Card (which sound chips work well in Linux?) $ 10 Basic Speakers $ 25 IBM Win95 Keyboard $ 13 Logitech OEM Mouse (PS/2) $ 12 High-quality Ball-bearing HS & Fan, with tach for DFI board $ 40 Basic ATX Chassis & Power Supply $140 Basic 14" 1024x768 .28 Monitor $ 50 SuSE Distribution & Manual This gets it down to about $825, and I think that the result should be pretty functional. One might be able to push it under $800 with volume purchases of some of the parts. The IBM keyboard and Logitech mouse are possible targets for cutting back, but these parts do have a substantial impact on a customer's perception of quality. This system also has a great deal of headroom for upgrades should the user outgrow the basic configuration. Also in the perception category, one thing that I personally would do to make the system *seem* more substantial would be to spend a little extra on the chassis. It would add about $200 to the price (for a total price tag more like $1000) but I particularly like the products from California PC Products (<A HREF="http://www.calpc.com"><A HREF="http://www.calpc.com</A">http://www.calpc.com</A</A>>). They are reasonably expensive as chassis go (don't try to buy one or two... the prices only get tolerable in moderate quantities), but are made completely of heavy-weight steel and use top-grade power supplies. The mid-tower chassis outfitted with casters & fenders is wonderfully roomy to work in and easy to move around. If you are selling to business these would make an impressive product that would capture attention and scream "quality". I know that this isn't what most hardware geeks (myself included) would put together for themselves, but we are talking (I thought) about putting out a stable product in moderate volumes that will give people a perception of quality and reliability, in part to build a mainstream image for Linux. I'd be interested to know how other people would modify this design to make it more suitable for mainstream buyers who are looking for a solution platform rather than a hot-rod. --Bob Drzyzgula bob(a)mostly.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] backgrounds?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Hi, Now that I got my Linux box to dial up, I would like to ask one of the most important newbie questions. How do I automatically set my Fvwm2 backgrounds. I used 'xv -root /location/image.gif' to do this by hand, but I cant seem to make the FvwmBacker work for me. I copied and pasted the sample script right out of the man page, removed the line with the image, and saved the file as .fvwm2rc. When I restarted my windows manager, I lost my tool bar and the ability to move my windows around, as well as some other functionality. Does any one know a simple way to accomplish this? Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] How to use SIRC
by jboonen＠worldonline.nl 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Hi all, Can someone please tell me how to use SIRC. How do i have to compile it and how do i start it? Thank you very much. Regards, Joop boonen. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] re: Belgium
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

On 20 Mar, Bodo Bauer wrote: > > Hi, > > it's funny to see a discussion about beer on our list, I like it... > > I've been living in Germany in a area where nearly 1000 breweries > (you would call them micro breweries I think..) can be found in > a 100km raduis. And there is no doubt, the best beers are > mbrewed in this area, in 'Franken' (or Frankonia...). > > I'm living now in San Francisco for about three month and enjoy > the Bay area. But there are two things I'm realy missing, > good German beer (forget about Becks, or the other German brands > you can get in the US...) and German food... ;^) > > Ciao, > BB Hi BB- I cannot offer German beer but would like to offer some tips on good american beers in the SF Bay area- 1) Sierra Nevada Pale - a nice and full pale ale. check it out 2) Golden Cate Amber Ale - try it. nice!! 3) Anchor Steam - good any old way, 4) Red Tail - nice and brewed quite well 5) A whole host of beers brewed in Napa, etc. Too many to name at this moment. Others available at Beverages and more. Check out beverages and more for some great beer both seasonally and year round. Some rather rare stuff now is Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale. Possibly one of the finest beers ever made. I have a case still. This is only brewed once a year. The Railroad amber stuff. Nice to taste. Aanyhow, there are some good web-based beer pointers posted on alt.beer once in awhile. Look for Ken Papai's web site on northern california microbrerwerania. PS - I like this discussion to. I am su'ing to my user named beer at this moment :) -- --Michael Perry-- mperry(a)basin.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] re: Belgium
by hongfeng＠public.wh.hb.cn 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

there was a German beer in Wuhan, China - the city I am living now. The brand name is "Steinbraeu", but this production line was sold to Buderweiser 2 years ago. Anyway, i like German beer, what's the taste of Belgium beer, I don't know. Best, Frederic Bodo Bauer +BDQAtQC9AKMAug- > Hi, > > it's funny to see a discussion about beer on our list, I like it... > > I've been living in Germany in a area where nearly 1000 breweries > (you would call them micro breweries I think..) can be found in > a 100km raduis. And there is no doubt, the best beers are > mbrewed in this area, in 'Franken' (or Frankonia...). > > I'm living now in San Francisco for about three month and enjoy > the Bay area. But there are two things I'm realy missing, > good German beer (forget about Becks, or the other German brands > you can get in the US...) and German food... ;^) > > Ciao, > BB > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon 510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax 510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sudo (was: IRC programs)
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Stefan Troeger wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:56 -0600, Leon McClatchey wrote: > > > > Try Žsudo /sbin/shutdown -r nowŽ. > > > > Worked Great! Still had to enter a password, but it wasn't necessary to know > > the root password. Actually, I think the first time through, it created the > > password from the one that I entered? > > If you don't want to enter your password every time you run sudo, create a > sudoers entry like this > > 0sers ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -[hr] now > > Now everybody who is in the users group can shutdown Linux. > > Ciao > Stefan > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Actually, the password bit don't really bother me too much, I only want one of two people to do the actual reboot (My wife or myself, so I would probably want to set it up 0arents ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown -[hr] now That is the group that only my better half and I am a member of (other than root:-) BTW, ever since I changed the sudo's file, I've noticed that my kids no longer have access to xterm. For some reason, a loc file is generated which is owned by root as soon as they log in (I've got them set up to go directly into Xfree and when they exit from Xfree, they are then automatically logged off. I've thought about doing the same thing for ginny and myself, but decided against it as there are times that I just like to roam around via the midnight commander:-) ginny, when she logs in generally sticks to xFree, but though I have shown her how to increase the size of some of the windows (the ones that would accept a dynamic font change) there are other windows that will not. I would like to set up Xfree so that it would go into 480x640 mode for her instead of the 720x1140? that I've grown accustomed to. At the same time, I would like to keep the same screen for the other users. Is there a way to do that? This especially applies to dosemu, (We run Quicken there, and though you can change the font in the launching window, the actual dos window is unchangeable). Oh yeah, that brings up another point, in terminal mode, (Quicken uses Control keys for shortcut keys - Ctrl-S for split) and everytime I do that in terminal mode, it locks up that terminal, is there a way to get around that minor problem? That way we can do the books in Terminal Mode instead of Xfree and she can then read the screen:-) Thanx Loads! cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] New Convert with a Question about RPMs
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Hey all- I just switched to SuSE from Red Hat and I have to say that it's really nice for things to work right out of the box! Anyway, I was wondering what the difference is between SuSE RPMs and Red Hat RPMs? Are they of the same format? Can I install RPMs from Red Hat and/or Yggdrasil (sp?) on my system and not worry if any files were misplaced? Thanks! Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] re: Belgium
by pberry2＠bellsouth.net 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

I lived in Bleialf, on the Belgium border North of Bitburg aboaut 50 km. for 5 jahren. Bitte ein Bit. 1976 to 1982. Now home in Florida. Miss the Dunkel the most! Those very dark, rich beers are a meal in themselves, and good German beers are unbeatable. The third best in the world is the light beer brewed by monks over near Fulda on the top of a solitary mountain. Kroitzberg Monastery, I think. Makes me thirsty to think of it! The only close comparison in richness is homemade pumpernikel bread for the Dunkel, and medium rye for the light beers. Bodo Bauer wrote: > Hi, > > it's funny to see a discussion about beer on our list, I like it... > > I've been living in Germany in a area where nearly 1000 breweries > (you would call them micro breweries I think..) can be found in > a 100km raduis. And there is no doubt, the best beers are > mbrewed in this area, in 'Franken' (or Frankonia...). > > I'm living now in San Francisco for about three month and enjoy > the Bay area. But there are two things I'm realy missing, > good German beer (forget about Becks, or the other German brands > you can get in the US...) and German food... ;^) > > Ciao, > BB > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing with Epson Stylus Color 600
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote: > > Jerome Krough wrote: > > > > I have gotten my printer to print every thing is fine except it prints > > everything in landscape format. I haven't found where I can change this > > setting. The "fine" manuals, man lpr, apsfilterrc, printcap, and lpd > > have provided no clues. > > > > Edit /etc/apsfilterc. There you'll find a section like this: > Just a small typo there Bodo, it's /etc/apsfilterrc -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] none@root:/ Power outage : How Do I Recover
by bb＠suse.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > > This problem has bugged me since I've been using Linux and since it > doesn't happen all the time, I can never remember the simplest recovery > for this problem. > I wind up booting up with boot diskettes and hacking shit till it works > right, never being sure about what it was I did to fix it. > > Currently, I have a user who is not real technical and she has to enter > commands that I give her over the phone, several hundred miles away. > > Scenario: Power outage caused the system to go down rudely. > > Power up and the system comes up with the none@root:/ or something > message. / is not mounted. > > I have had the user run fsck, e2fsck in hopes that it would reset > whatever flag it is that is causing that damn message to come up and not > properly mount or start the system. I wish you guys had a simple doc > somewhere for this, it's extremely frustrating because e2fsck and fsck > don't really work according to the damn man pages.I've done the remount > of root and then had her run fsck and e2fsck and that didn't fix > anything either. > > She has no rescue diskette, and even if she did, yast is too complicated > for her to figure out. > > Why don't you guys just setup the boot process to do it like SCO does, > run the real fsck and make it really check the drive instead of the soft > check. > > What needs to be fixed so it will boot up properly? Usualy the best thing is to start the system in single user mode, check the filesystems and reboot to your regular runlevel. This can be done by giving 'S' as parameter at the LILO promt: boot: <linux> S Where <linux> is the name of your LILO bootconfiguration (TAB shows you all possibilities). Then log on as root. At this point / will be mounted read only, and all the other partitions are still unmounted. Now go on and check every partition: e2fsck /dev/... You may want to give 'Y' as answer for every e2fsck question, usualy this is the best choice. Then log off and reboot as usual. If you are lucky the machine comes up without any problem. But you are realy in trouble if not... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing with Epson Stylus Color 600
by bb＠suse.com 21 Mar '98

21 Mar '98

Jerome Krough wrote: > > I have gotten my printer to print every thing is fine except it prints > everything in landscape format. I haven't found where I can change this > setting. The "fine" manuals, man lpr, apsfilterrc, printcap, and lpd > have provided no clues. > Edit /etc/apsfilterc. There you'll find a section like this: ############################################################################## # (7) Here you can determince, how a2ps (ascii to Postscript converter) # formats your documents... # here you can select between 4 predefined choices # # NOTE: Useless if USE_RECODE_NOT_A2PS is set to "yes" # ############################################################################## # Description # ----------- # FEATURE=1 tell a2ps to print 1 page on one sheet with header # FEATURE=2 tell a2ps to print 2 pages on one sheet with header # FEATURE=1n tell a2ps to print 1 page on one sheet without header # FEATURE=2n tell a2ps to print 2 pages on one sheet without header # FEATURE=1l tell a2ps to print 1 pages in landscape with header # FEATURE=1ln tell a2ps to print 1 pages in landscape without header # # Default is FEATURE=2 Set FEATURE to what you want to have... Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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