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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] vim 5.0 compile problems on SuSE 5.1
by jrodman＠tbw.net 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Scott Gray wrote: > > I get the following error message while trying to compile vim 5.0 on SuSE 5.1: > > /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory > > Could someone please shed some light on this for me? > If I remember correctly, this is because the vim make process is expecting to find libtermcap.so (or maybe libtermcap.a?) in /usr/lib. In SuSE these files are in /usr/lib/termcap. For some reason the autoconf script doesn't realize this.. olaris puts 'em in /usr/ccs/lib/libtermcap.a BSDi puts them in /usr/lib/libtermcap.a Anyway, i found the SH_LIB Makefile variable and just tacked /usr/lib/termcap to the end of it. This isn't really a geneeral fix for vim, but it does work for SuSE. It is of course, ironic, as /usr/lib/termcap/libtermcap.so is a link to /usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2 :-) .. When you can't find something, it's probably under your nose. -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Win 32 & Linux
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Zentra, You say that people tend to migrate over to Linux based applications. I have noticed that Mathematica and WordPerfect are available for Linux. I don't know how well they are selling. I'm expect that it is a bit of a social deviance to use software that you actually buy in the Linux community. On the other hand, if Linux were to become as easy to use as 95/NT for the uninitiated, and Linux were capable of running software that people already have invested money in, there would likely be a mass migration from M$ OSs to Linux. As far as running standard Win32 software on intel platforms goes, there is no need for emulating the CPU as is done with a Sparc. All that needs to be done is to emulate the Win32 API. I am not a stellar programmer, so that "all" could be a lot more than I am making it sound like. The main reason that I bring this up is not to dismiss the programming effort required, but to observe that the intel based Win32 programs should perform at least as well under Linux as under M$ OSs. Steve zentara wrote: > Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > Is there any support in Linuxverse for Win32? I know many may ask 'why > > I should care?' Well, I just think it would be cool to show this to my > > MS-Borg boss, and say "look, Linux can do that too!" > > > > No support for win32's, although the Wine (Windows Emulator) is > working on it, and there is a version of it on the Suse cdrom. > It works with alot of programs, but is still quite buggy; and > cannot be relied on. BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT!!! :-) > > WABI is a windows 3.1 emulator that SUN developed to > run on UNIX systems. It only runs in 256 colors, > dosn't support sound, and is no longer being supported > or developed by SUN. > > It runs really well under linux. The price has recently > just dropped to 49 US dollars!!!!. It used to be 150. > > Everyone had high hopes that SUN would continue with it, > and get WABI to run win32's ; but they figure there really isn't > a demand for it. Most linux users quickly switch to pure > linux apps, or they dual boot to win95 or NT. > > zentara > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by gecko＠freecar.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

On 28-Mar-98 Steven T. Hatton wrote: > >Luis A. Costabile wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, TEX wrote: >> >I have had the same thought. A news group would be nice. What happened to me I guess it's time for me to put in my two-cents worth... I would be against a news group. I don't go there. If it's not in my mailbox, I won't read it, so I prefer the mail list, like we have it now. ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] vim 5.0 compile problems on SuSE 5.1
by 1sgray＠preferred.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Hi, I get the following error message while trying to compile vim 5.0 on SuSE 5.1: /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory Could someone please shed some light on this for me? Thanks, ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Scott Gray <1sgray(a)preferred.com> Date: 30-Mar-98 Time: 11:51:35 We work in the dark We do what we can We give what we have Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task The rest is the madness of art. -- Henry James ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ppp/enet routing difficulties?
by mgx＠spruce.lsd.ornl.gov 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

good day all ... i'm still making progess. it appears that routing gets confused when i try and run ppp. this box has both an internal modem and and internal ethernet interface. the ethernet interface configured nicely with yast, but i cannot seem to get the ethernet interface to unconfigure itself when i need to use ppp instead. what should /etc/rc.config and /etc/rc.d/network look like for a box with both modem/ppp interface and ethernet interface? thanks! -- -- michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting)
by mantel＠suse.de 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Hi, On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: [...] > >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS > >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS [...] > The CDRom works, the Maxtor 2.1g drive works, but now I get the above > messages - looks like the boot is expecting something in the slave > position of the 1st controller (/dev/hdb) which *used* to be my > CDRom. Maybe there is some unusual (for me anyways) setting I have > failed to make or unset. Maybe there is a jumper on your harddrive that specifies the existence of a CD-ROM? > Dave E. Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Re: Fat32 patch
by mantel＠suse.de 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Hi, On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > I don't want to get you upset, since you know all the answers.:-) > But that patch dosn't work, or else I'm way off in applying it. > > First it isn't named VFAT32, its called fat32_joliet_nls_patch-0.2.8. Yes, this is one of the things I dislike about this patch: It collects several things in one big patch. AFAIK there doesn't exist a VFAT32 patch alone. Meanwhile there's a version 0.2.9. I assume this patch will apply better against recent kernels. > And it apparently was for "linux-2.0.31-clean" ; cause it > won't work on "linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3". I assume it will fail with a clean 2.0.33, too. We didn't change anything in the relevant parts of the kernel, so you probably need a newer version of the patch (<A HREF="http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html"><A HREF="http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html</A">http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html</A</A>>). > All it did was REMOVE the vfat option from the filesystems > menu in menuconfig. I think it's not a great deal to apply the rejects manually. But the new version of the patch explicitly states that it works with 2.0.33. > I don't use fat32 anyways, so it really dosn't matter--no complaints. > > But it would be nice to tell people that SuSe supports fat32, > and even Microsoft dosn't yet in NT. Sure this would be nice. Would save me lots of questions ;-) > I seem to remember it worked OK under Caldera, it didn't > seem buggy. "Didn't seem buggy" is not enough ;-) This kind of change is very critical, because existing filesystem code is modified. If we end up with corrupted filesystems we have a BIG problem. If the kernel is buggy, that's bad for us. If only a S.u.S.E. modified kernel is buggy whereas the official kernel works, it's much worse for us. Therefore we're waiting for the inclusion of this patch into the official kernel. 2.1.x has it already and the web page states it will be included in 2.0.34 (if it's ever released). > zentara Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem noise and xterm color
by rkeeley＠dibbs.net 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

For question #1. Try your modem manual. Or change your initilization code. In my Sportster modem, it is ATM0=speaker always off, ATM1=speaker on until Connect(what I use), M2=speaker always on, and M3=speaker on after dial, until Connect. I llike my modem to sound off at first, just to proves it works, then it goes silent. BTW way my modem is Hayes compatible, and these are their commands. Question #2: I will let the gurus answer, but you are on the right track, you just haven't read enuf yet! Santi wrote: > Two quick questions: > 1) How can I make the modem not to make noise when it dials? I know, I > should read the corresponding howto, but there is not a MODEM.HOWTO and > there's no information about it in 'man chat' or 'man ppp'. I don't > remember the comand in ATDTnumber for that. > 2) How can I change the colors for the xterm (background, for > instance). I use fvwm2, or, sometimes, KDE. In the .xinitrc I see color > for the title, but no for all the windows background. I've not been able > to find information about the options for xterm. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- 73's Roy KC4IMC rkeeley(a)dibbs.net rkeeley(a)acan.net kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org Snail Mail = 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA APS #158954 - ARA #4750 - C&LS #162 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Blaster AWE32
by svet＠alamo.satlug.org 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Xanti, I have got both AWE 32 and the AWE 64 working on SuSE 5.1 and 5.2...Hmmm. I assume you have gotten the kernel module patch for AWE32 + support. Without it, the sound module will not support AWE 32 no matter how you set it. If you have included it, tell me what you've set for the configuration, since there are some options that need to be confirmed. Just let me know! Steven "Svet" Bird-Downum On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Santi wrote: > > Anyone was able to have his or her SBAWE32 working? I've recompiled > the kernel putting the right IRQ and IO address and the midi programs > don't find the instruments. > Any help will be wellcome. Thanks. > > Xanti > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Blaster AWE32
by zentara＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Santi wrote: > > Anyone was able to have his or her SBAWE32 working? I've recompiled > the kernel putting the right IRQ and IO address and the midi programs > don't find the instruments. > Any help will be wellcome. Thanks. > > Hi, First, you must get the /etc/isapnp.conf set up right to use the awe32 soundfont bank. I have a copy of a usable isapnp.conf for the awe32. If you want I could e-mail it to you. Also: If you want to install the awe32, you must apply the awedriver patch that is on the cdrom, then recompile the kernel with sound as module. You must enable "low level driver support" and do a few other things as specified in the awedrv docs. OSS will interfere with it, don't try both. To get the soundfonts working, you must put a line "sfxload synthgm.sf2"; or a similar line in your /etc/boot.local. It can be done, but it ain't a cakewalk. :-) I also found that my awe32 gets set up nicely with the default Suse installation, but it didn't support the soundfonts. It was just setup as a regular soundblaster. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Win 32 & Linux
by zentara＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Is there any support in Linuxverse for Win32? I know many may ask 'why > I should care?' Well, I just think it would be cool to show this to my > MS-Borg boss, and say "look, Linux can do that too!" > No support for win32's, although the Wine (Windows Emulator) is working on it, and there is a version of it on the Suse cdrom. It works with alot of programs, but is still quite buggy; and cannot be relied on. BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT!!! :-) WABI is a windows 3.1 emulator that SUN developed to run on UNIX systems. It only runs in 256 colors, dosn't support sound, and is no longer being supported or developed by SUN. It runs really well under linux. The price has recently just dropped to 49 US dollars!!!!. It used to be 150. Everyone had high hopes that SUN would continue with it, and get WABI to run win32's ; but they figure there really isn't a demand for it. Most linux users quickly switch to pure linux apps, or they dual boot to win95 or NT. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem noise and xterm color
by chaos＠odn.de 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

HihO... > 2) How can I change the colors for the xterm (background, for > instance). I use fvwm2, or, sometimes, KDE. In the .xinitrc I see color > for the title, but no for all the windows background. I've not been able > to find information about the options for xterm. have a look at the file .fvwm2rc in your home directory (perhaps you have to create it first -> button Fvwm2... > konfiguration > create .fvwm2rc english or however the menue is titled in the neglish version...) in ~7.fvwm2rc youŽll find a option for the default colors of the frames and you have the entries for opening a xterm. there you can put your own options -fg foer foreground -bg for background... xterm -T hello -fg white -bg black will create a xterm with the title "hello" and white text on black ground... o far... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Modem noise and xterm color
by srr03＠tid.es 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Two quick questions: 1) How can I make the modem not to make noise when it dials? I know, I should read the corresponding howto, but there is not a MODEM.HOWTO and there's no information about it in 'man chat' or 'man ppp'. I don't remember the comand in ATDTnumber for that. 2) How can I change the colors for the xterm (background, for instance). I use fvwm2, or, sometimes, KDE. In the .xinitrc I see color for the title, but no for all the windows background. I've not been able to find information about the options for xterm. Thanks in advance. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01BD5BEF.43716C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I agree on most points... Another issue is that most company administratives (who most of the time = don't know that much about OS's) say "now we replace UNIX with NT !" - = "why ?" - "because it's MS and everybody has to have MS, and it's better = and this and that..." They don't know why, they just believe what Bill's telling'em... Instead of having capable UNIX administrators, and I mean _qualified_ = people, they put NT (and one of the very few advantages of NT is that is = _is_ easy to install and to administrate, because of the simple fact = that you are NOT allowed to modify a lot of parameters - compared to = UNIX & Linux, where you really can change ANYTHING, and customize your = system to your needs, as YOU wish, and not as MS wishes) on their = servers, they put NT on their workstations... and it crashes, it's = slower, it's more expensive in hardware and software (than Linux, that's = obvious - "but NT licenses are cheaper than Digital Unix !" you will = say... well, not exactly... have you already tried to get support from = MS ? it's very $$$$$$$$$$$... When you buy Digital Unix (for example... = we're working with this here, in this ....errm, highschool (I think = that's the right word... in Belgium it's "=E9cole sup=E9rieure" - like = University, but not as long ;-) ), you also buy the support, and you = don't have to pay extra... and also, you have a reliable product, which = NT obviously isn't. At this moment, I'm writing you this mail from a Windows NT Server (4.0) = host I'm working on (I'm making my end-of-study work on Oracle = Designer/2000)... and it CRASHES !! Sometimes 10x a day !!! Can you = believe that !? I'm sorry MS-lovers, but there is NO EXCUSE for that ! A hardware = problem ? Probably... but with NT, you have NO CHANCE to find out what's = wrong... Linux has logs & kernel panics, etc... and it never crashes = without a good (let's say "bad") reason... SaMBa is a very good product, although it is a little slower with the = default options than a NT server... There are rooms above the school, in the same building, and we have a = 70-host network (all students) with 2 NT 4.0 Servers and 2 Linux = servers... (one is underway, in fact) The working Linux Server is a i486DX2-66 with 32 megs of RAM and a = "Bigfoot" disk (that's bad... very slow)... we have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.0 = on it (I'll put 5.2 on it as soon as I have it) with kernel 2.0.33, = Apache 1.3b5 (the beta version), SaMBa (I'm going to install the latest = (1.9.18p4) on it tonight or tomorrow), DNS (named), DHCPd, ... ... and = it works fine! Samba really is a good peace of software, and it *is* easy to = administrate (although many people have trouble with it), I think... Pascal it's Kriek time !! pfeew... did I really write all this ? no more damn' "sorry for my = english"-stuff... "my English is great !!!", isn't it ? ;-) What's the difference between Windows 95 and a virus ? A virus _works_... -----Original Message----- From: Steven T. Hatton <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 14:59 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone? =20 =20 Pascal,=20 My points are these:=20 =20 I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. = Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's = architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to = whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition = that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share = thier protocols.=20 =20 NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has = some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like = UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the = problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is = changing. (That is material for another thread though.)=20 =20 NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now = it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only = better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many = solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product = line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc.=20 =20 I also wanted to plug the book. I like it.=20 =20 My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to = let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am = going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by = sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total = wash. Something tells me this is not the case.=20 =20 =20 Pascal Bleser wrote:=20 =20 Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)I have = some experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on = mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the = Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't = hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I = didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff... Pascal=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Steven T. Hatton <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil>=20 To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com>=20 Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24=20 Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?I am currently = reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your = WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not = seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. = I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement = an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I = am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really = make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and = versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM.=20 I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with = a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. = Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost.=20 =20 I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say = that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for = John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is = well written and informative.=20 =20 --=20 "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. =20 =20 --=20 "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01BD5BEF.43716C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#d2d2d2> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Well, I agree on most = points...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>Another issue = is that most=20 company administratives (who most of the time don't know that much about = OS's)=20 say "now we replace UNIX with NT !" - "why ?" -=20 "because it's MS and everybody has to have MS, and it's better and = this and=20 that..."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>They don't know why, they just believe what Bill's=20 telling'em...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Instead of having capable UNIX administrators, and I = mean=20 _qualified_ people, they put NT (and one of the very few advantages of = NT is=20 that is _is_ easy to install and to administrate, because of the simple = fact=20 that you are NOT allowed to modify a lot of parameters - compared to = UNIX &=20 Linux, where you really can change ANYTHING, and customize your system = to your=20 needs, as YOU wish, and not as MS wishes) on their servers, they put NT = on their=20 workstations... and it crashes, it's slower, it's more expensive in = hardware and=20 software (than Linux, that's obvious - "but NT licenses are cheaper = than=20 Digital Unix !" you will say... well, not exactly... have you = already tried=20 to get support from MS ? it's very $$$$$$$$$$$... When you buy Digital = Unix (for=20 example... we're working with this here, in this ....errm, highschool (I = think=20 that's the right word... in Belgium it's "école=20 supérieure" - like University, but not as long ;-) ), = you also=20 buy the support, and you don't have to pay extra... and also, you have a = reliable product, which NT obviously isn't.</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>At this moment, I'm writing you this mail from a = Windows NT=20 Server (4.0) host I'm working on (I'm making my end-of-study work on = Oracle=20 Designer/2000)... and it CRASHES !! Sometimes 10x a day !!! Can you = believe that=20 !?</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm sorry MS-lovers, but there is NO EXCUSE for that = ! A=20 hardware problem ? Probably... but with NT, you have NO CHANCE to find = out=20 what's wrong... Linux has logs & kernel panics, etc... and it never = crashes=20 without a good (let's say "bad") reason...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>SaMBa is a very good product, although it is a = little slower=20 with the default options than a NT server...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>There are = rooms above the=20 school, in the same building, and we have a 70-host network (all = students) with=20 2 NT 4.0 Servers and 2 Linux servers... (one is underway, in = fact)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>The working = Linux Server is=20 a i486DX2-66 with 32 megs of RAM and a "Bigfoot" disk (that's = bad...=20 very slow)... we have S.u.S.E. Linux 5.0 on it (I'll put 5.2 on it as = soon as I=20 have it) with kernel 2.0.33, Apache 1.3b5 (the beta version), SaMBa (I'm = going=20 to install the latest (1.9.18p4) on it tonight or tomorrow), DNS = (named), DHCPd,=20 ... ... and it works fine!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Samba really is a good peace of software, and it = *is* easy to=20 administrate (although many people have trouble with it), I=20 think...</FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pascal</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>it's Kriek time !!</FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>pfeew... did I really write all this ? no more damn' = "sorry for my english"-stuff... "my English is great = !!!",=20 isn't it ? ;-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>What's the difference between = Windows 95 and a=20 virus ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>A virus=20 _works_...</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><B>From:=20 </B>Steven T. Hatton <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil">hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.di= sa.mil</A>><B>To:=20 </B><A = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A> <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A>><B= >Date:=20 </B>lundi 30 mars 1998 14:59<B>Subject: </B>Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] = Samba=20 anyone?<BR></DIV></FONT>Pascal,=20 My points are these:=20 I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with = Lanman. =20 Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. = Microsoft's=20 architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything = they can to=20 whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition = that=20 can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't = share thier=20 protocols.=20 NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, = and has=20 some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that = I like=20 UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with = UNIX/Linux. One=20 of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than = NT. =20 This is changing. (That is material for another thread = though.)=20 NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to=20 be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do = what NT=20 can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be = only one=20 of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework = rather than a=20 product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, = Solaris,=20 etc.=20 I also wanted to plug the book. I like it.=20 My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and = to let=20 people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I = am going=20 to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by = sharing what=20 little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total = wash. =20 Something tells me this is not the case. =20 Pascal Bleser wrote:=20 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE =3D CITE> <FONT size=3D-1><FONT = color=3D#000000>Well,=20 it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)</FONT>I = have some=20 experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people = on=20 mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on = the=20 Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, = don't=20 hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that = I=20 didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff...</FONT> <FONT=20 size=3D-1>Pascal</FONT>=20 <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><FONT=20 face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>-----Original=20 Message-----</FONT></FONT></B> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D-1><B>From: </B>Steven T. Hatton <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil">hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.di= sa.mil</A>></FONT></FONT>=20 <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><B>To: </B><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A> <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A>></FONT= ></FONT>=20 <FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1><B>Date: </B>lundi 30 = mars 1998=20 06:24</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT = size=3D-1><B>Subject:=20 </B>[S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?</FONT></FONT>I am = currently=20 reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way = to make=20 your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of=20 them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being = able to=20 fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of = hope that=20 the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and = perhaps NT=20 compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly = becoming=20 something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me=20 happy. I also think it would make for a much more = powerful and=20 versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM.=20 I have a friend who works in a biological research lab = with a=20 limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across=20 subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this = at a=20 very low cost.=20 I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should = say that=20 on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with = a plug=20 for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and=20 Windows*. It is well written and informative. = -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber = Gastheorie. </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> =20 -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber = Gastheorie. =20 </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0288_01BD5BEF.43716C20-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

--------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pascal, My points are these: I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share thier protocols. NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is changing. (That is material for another thread though.) NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc. I also wanted to plug the book. I like it. My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total wash. Something tells me this is not the case. Pascal Bleser wrote: > Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)I have some > experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on > mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the > Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't > hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I > didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff... Pascal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven T. Hatton <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24 > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?I am currently > reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to > make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one > of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being > able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer > of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an > alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using > LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in > LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it > would make for a much more powerful and versatile service > than WINS/Browsing/SAM. > > I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with > a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across > subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a > very low cost. > > I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say > that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with > a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix > and Windows*. It is well written and informative. > > -- > "Alles Vergaengliche > Ist nur ein Gleichniss" > -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. > > > -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <BODY BGCOLOR="#D2D2D2"> Pascal, My points are these: I work in a DoD shop that does all of its networking with Lanman. Currently, if you want to play Lanman, you buy Microsoft. Microsoft's architecture is proprietary. Microsoft is doing everything they can to whipe out any and all competition, except for that token competition that can be used for defense in antitrust law suits. They don't share thier protocols. NT is restrictive in many ways. It *is easy to work with, and has some very impressive features. Nonetheless, I am finding that I like UNIX more than NT. One can simply do more with UNIX/Linux. One of the problems with UNIX is that it is harder to use than NT. This is changing. (That is material for another thread though.) NT is growing fast. I remember when a CNE was the thing to be. Now it is MCSE. I firmly believe that UNIX can do what NT can do, only better. If this can be accomplished, NT will be only one of many solutions. One will learn a conceptual framework rather than a product line. If I know Unix I can move between Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, etc. I also wanted to plug the book. I like it. My reasons for posting here were to find out who knows what, and to let people know about someting I find interesting. I figure, if I am going to be using suse, I should try to strengthen the user base by sharing what little bit I find valuable. Samba may prove to be a total wash. Something tells me this is not the case. Pascal Bleser wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <FONT SIZE=-1><FONT COLOR="#000000">Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-)</FONT>I have some experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some people on mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf on the Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff...</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>Pascal</FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT></B> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>From: </B>Steven T. Hatton <mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil">hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil</A>></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>To: </B>mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A> <mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A>></FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>Date: </B>lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1><B>Subject: </B>[S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?</FONT></FONT>I am currently reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM. I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost. I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is well written and informative. -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </BODY> </HTML> --------------085A3901618F78E5EF354FB0-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by adcarlso＠visinet.ca 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

I would be very interested in this PPP script that handles more than one provider (two, or more). Thanks, Arlen On 27-Mar-98 Leon McClatchey wrote: > >Michael Galloway wrote: > >> good day all ... >> >> i'm making some progess getting my modem and ppp up and running. >> using, xisp, i can make the modem dial and negotiate with my >> isp server. however, when xisp brings up the terminal window, >> after a few seconds the i get a 'No Carrier' error. i'm sure i'm >> missing something simple. i did compile a new kernel with ppp support >> (dmesg reports PPP version 2.2.0 and PPP line discipline registered) >> so at least i've made some progress. >> >> any help would be apprciated. >> >> -- >> -- michael >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > If your using ppp, perhaps chat would be a better script to work with >your modem. Using chat I had no problem getting ppp up and running >(once I got the other configurations correct). I did find that I had to >up the TIMEOUT from 45 to 60. BTW, you can find some sample ppp >scripts in the installation at "/usr/doc/inetcfg/ppp" and the easiest >thing to do is to adapt them scripts to your system. > >If you are interested, I can send you the ppp-dial script that I have >adapted to my system. It handles two providers and 5 users with no >problem, but then it is not the dialer script that does that:-) > >cya l8r >Leon McClatchey >leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- Arlen Carlson adcarlso(a)visinet.ca Just about every computer on the market today runs Unix, except the Mac (and nobody cares about it). -- Bill Joy 6/21/85 This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Blaster AWE32
by deem＠wdm.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Santi <srr03(a)tid.es> wrote: > > Anyone was able to have his or her SBAWE32 working? I've recompiled > the kernel putting the right IRQ and IO address and the midi programs > don't find the instruments. > Any help will be wellcome. Thanks. > > Xanti > Still the OSS app is the best for all sound cards. See <A HREF="http://www.4front-tech.com"><A HREF="http://www.4front-tech.com</A">http://www.4front-tech.com</A</A>>, download the trial version and wala ! -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) -=- deem(a)wdm.com No claim to fame, just saved by Grace. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux is everywhere ;-)
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Although they don't have the best distribution, they _are_ making progress... ;-) <A HREF="http://egg.microsoft.com/poweredby.gif"><A HREF="http://egg.microsoft.com/poweredby.gif</A">http://egg.microsoft.com/poweredby.gif</A</A>> Pascal with Linux, a blue screen doesn't mean you have to reboot... it just means you're not really used to the command-line yet (mc) ;-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Blaster AWE32
by srr03＠tid.es 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Anyone was able to have his or her SBAWE32 working? I've recompiled the kernel putting the right IRQ and IO address and the midi programs don't find the instruments. Any help will be wellcome. Thanks. Xanti -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A1_01BD5BC3.B818DF30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, it's an interesting mail, but what's the point ? ;-) I have some experience with Samba, and I've already helped out some = people on mailing-lists (even some french people who put their smb.conf = on the Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't = hesitate (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I = didn't try out a lot with that PAM stuff... Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Steven T. Hatton <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24 Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone? =20 =20 I am currently reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a = way to make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of = them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully = implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team = may try to implement an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution = using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, = this would really make me happy. I also think it would make for a much = more powerful and versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM.=20 I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a = limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. = Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost.=20 =20 I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that on = the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John D. = Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is well = written and informative.=20 =20 --=20 "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_01A1_01BD5BC3.B818DF30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#d2d2d2> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Well, it's an interesting mail, but = what's the=20 point ? ;-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have some experience with Samba, and I've already = helped out=20 some people on mailing-lists (even some french people who put their = smb.conf on=20 the Win95 hosts 8^D !??!?), so if I can help you out with this, don't = hesitate=20 (pbleser(a)prov-liege.be)... although I have to say, that I didn't try out = a lot=20 with that PAM stuff...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pascal</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><B>From:=20 </B>Steven T. Hatton <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil">hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.di= sa.mil</A>><B>To:=20 </B><A = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A> <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">suse-linux-e(a)suse.com</A>><B= >Date:=20 </B>lundi 30 mars 1998 06:24<B>Subject: </B>[S.u.S.E. Linux] = Samba=20 anyone?<BR></DIV></FONT>I am currently reading up on = Samba. If you=20 don't know, Samba is a way to make your WinDos-NT system think your=20 Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not seen any evidence = yet of=20 Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a = glimmer=20 of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and = perhaps=20 NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming = something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me = happy. I=20 also think it would make for a much more powerful and versatile = service than=20 WINS/Browsing/SAM.=20 I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a = limited=20 budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. = Samba=20 could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost.=20 I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that = on the=20 Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John = D.=20 Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is = well=20 written and informative. -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber = Gastheorie. =20 </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_01A1_01BD5BC3.B818DF30-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Apache help +
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

> >I need a little help, I'm trying to do some Web pages >using CGI. I don't know where Apaches root directory >for html is located nor the directory for cgi or if it uses >the cgi extension. I am using SuSe5.1. /usr/local/httpd/htdocs for the html files /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin for the cgi's but you can change that easily in those /etc/httpd/*.conf files > >also I have tried multiple times to download a file from the >web source > <A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/"><A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A">http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A</A>> >file > quiver-online_tar.gz >but it refuses to untar. Will someone else try and see >if its just me? rename it quiver-online.tar.gz do gunzip quiver-online.tar.gz tar xvf quiver-online.tar > >Also, I can ftp to my Linux from the ftp in Win95 but not from >the program Cuteftp. It connects and then hangs up. >Messages are: > User jim logged on >STATUS:> Logon sucessful >COMMAND:> Rest 100 >and then I get a perpetual hourglass > >Thanks >Jim > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] httpd problems
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Maybe you forgot to send <-----start here Content type: text/html >-----stop here the content-type header (followed by \r\n) at the beginning of the response ? (I had that some times) Pascal -----Original Message----- From: K.Y.Lo <K.Y.Lo(a)soton.ac.uk> To: suse <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: samedi 28 mars 1998 17:35 Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] httpd problems > >Hello > >I had installed apache www server with cgi-bin. >And I was testing to fill in the form with cgi-bin then send mail. >it went error. I gonna write mailer.pl on the CGI-BIN/Perl language >thats why. > >It says:- > > > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, user(a)wibble.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > Help me! > >I configure httpd with cgi-bin. it works with test-cgi in the CGI-BIN >directory with httpd server. > >I have no idea that > >thank you > >-- >Cheers > >K.Y.Lo >Email: kyl(a)soton.ac.uk >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Well, it tells the init daemon which runlevel it should switch to... The init daemon is one of the most (let's say "the most") important daemon in a Unix system... Now, what's a runlevel ? To keep it simple, here are some usual runlevels: 0: halt S: single user, no network 1: multi-user, no network 2: multi-user, with network 3: with xdm 6: reboot So, root# init 1; init 2 tells the init daemon to switch to runlevel 1 (many users, no network) and then switch to level 2 (many users, with network) again... There are some directories (/sbin/init.d/rc.* where * is S,1,2,...) that contain symbolic links (see "man ln") to scripts that (mostly) launch and kill daemons (web server, NFS daemons, Samba, ...), set up quotas, ... When you switch from 2 to 1, init will run all the scripts contained in /sbin/init.d/rc.2 with the "stop" parameter. This will cause all network daemons (say "services" if you're used to NT) to stop. When switching back from 1 to 2, all scripts in /sbin/init.d/rc.2 will be run by init with the "start" parameter... and they'll all be fired up again ! I hope this made it a little clearer to you ;-) There are NO dumb questions... I'm glad to help you out in any way Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Roy Keeley <rkeeley(a)dibbs.net> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: samedi 28 mars 1998 06:29 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying! > >I read the Init 1 and Init 2, but was unclear about the difference between the >two choices. You will >have to pardon the dumb question. > >Leon McClatchey wrote: > >> Pascal Bleser wrote: >> >> > P.S.: why you people always reboot your machines ?? >> > The only case in which you have to reboot is when you wan't to change the >> > kernel you're using... >> > Use "init" !! >> > e.g.: shutdown all network daemons and all network interfaces, and them >> > fire'm up again (for example, if you changed your IP address) : >> > root# init 1; init 2 >> > (do not enter "root#" ;-) it's a prompt) >> > This takes about 5-10 seconds... >> >> hehe, I for one sometimes reboot out of habit, (Used to running Os/2 and in >> order to make the new configuration changes take effect, you have to reboot, >> but sometimes I do remember and do the init 1, init 2 thing:-) >> >> cya l8r >> Leon McClatchey >> leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com >> >> > >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- >73's > >Roy KC4IMC > >rkeeley(a)dibbs.net >rkeeley(a)acan.net >kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org >Snail Mail = 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA >APS #158954 - ARA #4750 - C&LS #162 > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by srr03＠tid.es 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

--------------DE4345A885C0D570996DD74B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you have to make xconfig (or whatever) again, to create the configuration files for compiling. And then make modules and make modules_install. Exactly in that order. I did 'make' in the Sound Blaster AWE32 driver and had the same problem that you. Anyway, I don't have my SBAWE32 working. The midi programs don't find the instruments. Good luck TEX wrote: > I have a genuine soundblaster 16. When trying to recompile the > kernal for sound it says "Error, you will need to configure the > soundcard with SOUND_CONFIGURATION option. What gives? After error > no zImage file shows up and I am afraid to go on from here. Thanks for > all the help. > > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > --------------DE4345A885C0D570996DD74B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> I think you have to make xconfig (or whatever) again, to create the configuration files for compiling. And then make modules and make modules_install. Exactly in that order. I did 'make' in the Sound Blaster AWE32 driver and had the same problem that you. Anyway, I don't have my SBAWE32 working. The midi programs don't find the instruments. Good luck TEX wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> I have a genuine soundblaster 16. When trying to recompile the kernal for sound it says "Error, you will need to configure the soundcard with SOUND_CONFIGURATION option. What gives? After error no zImage file shows up and I am afraid to go on from here. Thanks for all the help. -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm </A> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> --------------DE4345A885C0D570996DD74B-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Tax Program for Linux
by srr03＠tid.es 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

You've got some good midi-players that come with the kde, included with the SuSE distribution. Good luck. P.D.One question is: is it worth to use KDE? It hangs many times. Perhaps it's because it's a beta release. I don't know. Bye Jaime Smith wrote: > Any good MIDI players out-there I can use under S.u.S.E? > thanks. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

--------------7CD84BB804BD07A1EA94A025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerome, I didn't even notice the manuconfig option when I set up a week ago. Does it do anything that I can't do with xconfig? Steve Jerome Krough wrote: > Set-up sound with menuconfig first then use xconfig if you need to. -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------7CD84BB804BD07A1EA94A025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Jerome, I didn't even notice the manuconfig option when I set up a week ago. Does it do anything that I can't do with xconfig? Steve Jerome Krough wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Set-up sound with menuconfig first then use xconfig if you need to.</BLOCKQUOTE> -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </HTML> --------------7CD84BB804BD07A1EA94A025-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE 5.1 (or 5.2?) vs RedHat 5.0
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

--------------E6C3D694A0508F624543327F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon McClatchey wrote: > Lawrence Sayre wrote: > > For now about the only other thing that I had running on Redhat that I > haven't gotten around to yet is my tape backups. And you admit that in public? :-) -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------E6C3D694A0508F624543327F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Leon McClatchey wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Lawrence Sayre wrote: For now about the only other thing that I had running on Redhat that I haven't gotten around to yet is my tape backups.</BLOCKQUOTE> And you admit that in public? :-) -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </HTML> --------------E6C3D694A0508F624543327F-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Samba anyone?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

--------------16AAB5D8B82EAD9DE2C94492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am currently reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM. I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost. I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is well written and informative. -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------16AAB5D8B82EAD9DE2C94492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> I am currently reading up on Samba. If you don't know, Samba is a way to make your WinDos-NT system think your Linux/UNIX box is one of them. I have not seen any evidence yet of Samba being able to fully implement the NT SAM. I have seen a glimmer of hope that the Samba Team may try to implement an alternative, and perhaps NT compatible, solution using LDAP. Since I am slowly becoming something of an expert in LDAP, this would really make me happy. I also think it would make for a much more powerful and versatile service than WINS/Browsing/SAM. I have a friend who works in a biological research lab with a limited budget who needs to support Lanman browsing across subnets. Samba could be used with Linux to effect this at a very low cost. I guess if I wish to say much more about Samba, I should say that on the Samba mailing list. I'll just leave y'all with a plug for John D. Blair's new book *Samba, Integrating Unix and Windows*. It is well written and informative. -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </HTML> --------------16AAB5D8B82EAD9DE2C94492-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Win 32 & Linux
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Is there any support in Linuxverse for Win32? I know many may ask 'why I should care?' Well, I just think it would be cool to show this to my MS-Borg boss, and say "look, Linux can do that too!" Steve -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's Vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by marca＠netscout.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

I would also recommend getting the latest sound modules from www.4front-tech.com. marc. Jerome Krough <jkrough(a)mindspring.com> on 03/28/98 09:23:59 PM Please respond to suse-linux-e(a)suse.com To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com cc: (bcc: Marc Abrams) Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Set-up sound with menuconfig first then use xconfig if you need to. In menuconfig there is an option for "old style" setup or something similar or along those lines, say yes and jump through the rest of the hoops, save and exit, you'll be asked if you want to save. Then you can use xconfig for the rest and to double check your sound setup. Jerome K. TEX wrote: > I have a genuine soundblaster 16. When trying to recompile the > kernal for sound it says "Error, you will need to configure the > soundcard with SOUND_CONFIGURATION option. What gives? After error > no zImage file shows up and I am afraid to go on from here. Thanks for > all the help. > > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Need to install wabi on SuSE 5.1
by zentara＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Michael Perry wrote: > > Hi- > > I am at the point in resurrecting my system that I would like to get > wabi back on so I can get quicken and corel 3 working. Could someone > from SuSE or the mailing list please repost their excellent directions > for installing wabi? The rpm's cause a segmentation fault when I > attempt to run them and I do not remember what I did last time to get > it working. > OK, WABI 101 1. As root mount the wabi cdrom 2. execute the script "install-wabi" on the cdrom, you do not need to be in x-windows 3. it will install to /opt/wabi 4. chmod /dev/zero 666 5. logon as a user and startx --bpp 8, as wabi needs 256 colors, or 24 bit color if your card supports it. 6. type "wabi" from an xterm and it will want to see some win3.1 floppies, or a win3.1 installation on a hard disk. Thats it.:-) zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Apache help +
by zentara＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Jim Hodgers wrote: > > I need a little help, I'm trying to do some Web pages > using CGI. I don't know where Apaches root directory > for html is located nor the directory for cgi or if it uses > the cgi extension. I am using SuSe5.1. > It depends on whether you have the secure server or not. It basically is in /usr/local/httpd. The html's go in /htdocs, and the cgi in /cgi. > also I have tried multiple times to download a file from the > web source > <A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/"><A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A">http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A</A>> > file > quiver-online_tar.gz > but it refuses to untar. Will someone else try and see > if its just me? Usually tar -zxvf filename will always work. Sometimes they are misnamed and are not tarred, then use gunzip filename. > > Also, I can ftp to my Linux from the ftp in Win95 but not from > the program Cuteftp. It connects and then hangs up. > Messages are: > User jim logged on > STATUS:> Logon sucessful > COMMAND:> Rest 100 > and then I get a perpetual hourglass > > The exact same thing happens for me and a few other posters. There is nothing wrong, except Cuteftp has a problem retreiving the index, who knows why? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] httpd problems
by zentara＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

K.Y.Lo wrote: > > Hello > > I had installed apache www server with cgi-bin. > And I was testing to fill in the form with cgi-bin then send mail. > it went error. I gonna write mailer.pl on the CGI-BIN/Perl language > thats why. > > It says:- > > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, user(a)wibble.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > Help me! > > I configure httpd with cgi-bin. it works with test-cgi in the CGI-BIN > directory with httpd server. > > Hi, I have the exact same problem, with a script I'm testing. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the standard Perl that comes with Suse 5.1 says it's been compiled for a i686, and I have a i586.?? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Apache help +
by alfiesty＠chaffee.net 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

At 02:49 PM 3/29/98 -0600, you wrote: >>>> <excerpt>Jim Hodgers wrote: <excerpt>I need a little help, I'm trying to do some Web pages using CGI. I don't know where Apaches root directory for html is located nor the directory for cgi or if it uses the cgi extension. I am using SuSe5.1. also I have tried multiple times to download a file from the web source <<<A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/"><A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A">http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A</A>>><A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/"><A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A">http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A</A>> file quiver-online_tar.gz but it refuses to untar. Will someone else try and see if its just me? </excerpt> Did you try gzip -dc quiver-online_tar.gz | tar -xf - -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Party on Linux:-) </excerpt><<<<<<<< Yes I did. A little more info, i downloaded it with both ftp and netscape. I only have internet access to a Win95 machine so I then log onto my linux and ftp it. Every time the computer goes into lala land. Jim -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by jaime＠gate.net 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Philip Bennett wrote: > At 09:37 PM 3/28/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > ...> Hey Phil.. I had the same problem when I changed from Red Hat 5.0 to > >S.u.S.E.. Solution: Please follow the instructions on the README file in CDROM. > >Also, you can go here for details on how to install it.. Basically, you have to > >do it manually.. > ><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html</A">http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html</A</A>> > >hope this helps!! > >JS > > > > Thanks, JS. Things are up and running now. > > Phil > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e I'm glad it's working... say..when printing with Applixware I get large fonts. I've tried to adjust the size through the option menu..but it's not working... do you or anyone have/has this problem..? Thanks. JS -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by jaime＠gate.net 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Mark Wagnon wrote: > Darren wrote: > > > > It sounds like you -- and maybe that other guy -- got stung by the default confi > > guration SuSE puts into the fstab for cdroms. They set the "user" option and th > > at disables all execution from the cdrom. By commenting out the line in the fst > > ab and manually mounting the drive, you did NOT set the user bit... you could ex > > ectute from the cd... just my guess > > > > Bingo! That was it exactly. I couldn't remember the "why", just the "how > to fix it". I always set my removables to allow for user mount/umount > because I don't use root 'cept for admin > > Thanks > > Mark > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Sorry Mark for my ignorance.. I started using Linux for a month ago, and I still have lots of questions...Would you mind telling me how to manually mount the CD ROM Drive to install Applixware as you indicated? Appreciate your help... JS -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by pbnt＠mindspring.com 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

At 09:37 PM 3/28/98 -0500, you wrote: > ...> Hey Phil.. I had the same problem when I changed from Red Hat 5.0 to >S.u.S.E.. Solution: Please follow the instructions on the README file in CDROM. >Also, you can go here for details on how to install it.. Basically, you have to >do it manually.. ><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html</A">http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html</A</A>> >hope this helps!! >JS > Thanks, JS. Things are up and running now. Phil -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Yast
by di6mika＠cse.hks.se 30 Mar '98

30 Mar '98

Can I download the new YaST and use it in my SuSE 5.1? If not, how easy is it to upgrade from 5.1 to 5.2? Have a nice day! Mikael ----------------------------------------------------------------- Life doesn't imitate art, it imitates bad television. Mikael Asp ICQ # 688106 (Home), 4533793 (University) e-mail: di6mika(a)cse.hks.se homepage: <A HREF="http://www.cse.hks.se/~di6mika/"><A HREF="http://www.cse.hks.se/~di6mika/</A">http://www.cse.hks.se/~di6mika/</A</A>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Scanner
by lsayre＠en.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

While you're at it, how about the Microtek E-6 with SuSE 5.1? TEX wrote: > I have a mustec 1200 III EP and the same question. Any Mustec Gurus > around? Thanks > > J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > >> I was going to try to install my scanner, but the manual >> says that "Mustek-scanners however not in all cases", are >> supported. >> >> Does anyone know it the MFS-6000CX is supported, and any >> suggestions of helpful hints, over and above the SuSE >> manual? >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com >> with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > -- ------------------------------------------- Man's mind is his basic tool of survival! lsayre(a)en.com <Lawrence Sayre> ------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Scanner
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

--------------4A64FA8B7A03029B0752226A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a mustec 1200 III EP and the same question. Any Mustec Gurus around? Thanks J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > I was going to try to install my scanner, but the manual > says that "Mustek-scanners however not in all cases", are > supported. > > Does anyone know it the MFS-6000CX is supported, and any > suggestions of helpful hints, over and above the SuSE > manual? > > Thanks > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... --------------4A64FA8B7A03029B0752226A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> I have a mustec 1200 III EP and the same question. Any Mustec Gurus around? Thanks J.D.K. Chipps wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I was going to try to install my scanner, but the manual ays that "Mustek-scanners however not in all cases", are upported. Does anyone know it the MFS-6000CX is supported, and any uggestions of helpful hints, over and above the SuSE manual? Thanks -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e</BLOCKQUOTE> -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... </HTML> --------------4A64FA8B7A03029B0752226A-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Apache help +
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

--------------FC8C6A5F3A5E50172E54CD29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Hodgers wrote: > I need a little help, I'm trying to do some Web pages > using CGI. I don't know where Apaches root directory > for html is located nor the directory for cgi or if it uses > the cgi extension. I am using SuSe5.1. > > also I have tried multiple times to download a file from the > web source > <A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/"><A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A">http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A</A>> > file > quiver-online_tar.gz > but it refuses to untar. Will someone else try and see > if its just me? > Did you try gzip -dc quiver-online_tar.gz | tar -xf - -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Party on Linux:-) --------------FC8C6A5F3A5E50172E54CD29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Jim Hodgers wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I need a little help, I'm trying to do some Web pages using CGI. I don't know where Apaches root directory for html is located nor the directory for cgi or if it uses the cgi extension. I am using SuSe5.1. also I have tried multiple times to download a file from the web source http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/">http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A> file quiver-online_tar.gz but it refuses to untar. Will someone else try and see if its just me? </BLOCKQUOTE> Did you try gzip -dc quiver-online_tar.gz | tar -xf - -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Party on Linux:-) </HTML> --------------FC8C6A5F3A5E50172E54CD29-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] News Reading
by stefan.troeger＠wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Hi, On Sun, Mar 29, 1998 at 20:56 +0200, Jim Hatridge wrote: > Hi all; > > I know that this is a silly question, but I have no idea where to even > start setting up a news reader. I mean I have tin, rtin, and pine. But how > do I set up a connection to a news server (ie news.uni-stuttgart.de)? > > Can someone give me a step by step list? To use news.uni-stuttgart.de as your news server you could simply do export NNTPSERVER=news.uni-stuttgart.de and connect to your ISP. Then launch rtin. If you want to use Pine choose Setup/Config in its main menu and change nntp-server to news.uni-stuttgart.de. The disadvantage here is that you have to be online to read news (I wouldn't do this in Germany, it's just waste of money). If you want to read news offline you'll have to set up a local news server. IMHO Leafnode is quite easy to install (it has the requested step by step list). You can get it at <A HREF="ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/news/readers/leafnode-1.4-7.src.elf.…"><A HREF="ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/news/readers/leafnode-1.4-7.src.elf.…</A">ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/news/readers/leafnode-1.4-7.src.elf.…</A</A>> Ciao Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] News Reading
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

--------------8EF492C38586B284DF0FAE33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Hatridge wrote: > Hi all; > > I know that this is a silly question, but I have no idea where to even > start setting up a news reader. I mean I have tin, rtin, and pine. But how > do I set up a connection to a news server (ie news.uni-stuttgart.de)? > > Can someone give me a step by step list? > Don't know about step by step, but I do know that in pine, at the main menu....press C to go into Configuration. press S to go into Setup Then just cursor down until you find the entry for nntp, and enter the name of your newserver at that point. -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Party on Linux:-) --------------8EF492C38586B284DF0FAE33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Jim Hatridge wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi all; I know that this is a silly question, but I have no idea where to even tart setting up a news reader. I mean I have tin, rtin, and pine. But how do I set up a connection to a news server (ie news.uni-stuttgart.de)? Can someone give me a step by step list? </BLOCKQUOTE> Don't know about step by step, but I do know that in pine, at the main menu....press <B>C</B> to go into <I>Configuration</I>. press <B>S</B> to go into <I>Setup</I> Then just cursor down until you find the entry for nntp, and enter the name of your newserver at that point. -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Party on Linux:-) </HTML> --------------8EF492C38586B284DF0FAE33-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Apache help +
by alfiesty＠chaffee.net 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

I need a little help, I'm trying to do some Web pages using CGI. I don't know where Apaches root directory for html is located nor the directory for cgi or if it uses the cgi extension. I am using SuSe5.1. also I have tried multiple times to download a file from the web source <A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/"><A HREF="http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A">http://ftp://ftp.hsdi.com/pub/qddb/sources/hx-examples/</A</A>> file quiver-online_tar.gz but it refuses to untar. Will someone else try and see if its just me? Also, I can ftp to my Linux from the ftp in Win95 but not from the program Cuteftp. It connects and then hangs up. Messages are: User jim logged on STATUS:> Logon sucessful COMMAND:> Rest 100 and then I get a perpetual hourglass Thanks Jim -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] News Reading
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Hi all; I know that this is a silly question, but I have no idea where to even start setting up a news reader. I mean I have tin, rtin, and pine. But how do I set up a connection to a news server (ie news.uni-stuttgart.de)? Can someone give me a step by step list? Thanks JIM ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) ___________ News Flash! -------------- News Flash! ___________________ Yesterday, a ferry boat leaving Haiti sunk and 300 people died, drowned, as the boat capsized. But a tragedy was avoided when they discovered that none of them on board was a Princess. --- Harlan Ellison, InterZone -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Scanner
by jdkc＠woptura.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

I was going to try to install my scanner, but the manual says that "Mustek-scanners however not in all cases", are supported. Does anyone know it the MFS-6000CX is supported, and any suggestions of helpful hints, over and above the SuSE manual? Thanks -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] apsfilter problem
by pwlwcz＠ibm.net 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Hello, I am having a problem with apsfilter and need some help. I set it up with YAST. I'm using the eps9high driver on a nine pin panasonic dot matrix printer. I have also tried the epson driver and the SETUP program for apsfilter. I can print text using : lpr -Praw (my-text-file), or lpr (my-postscript-file). I can also print text using : a2ps (various command line options) (my-text-file). It seems that the a2ps options I specified in apsfilterrc and apsfilterrc.eps9high don't work. lpr command works with .ps files and with text files using -Praw command line option only, -Plp and -Pascii don't work. My etc/printcap file looks correct. Also the print button in Netscape 4.04 seems to work fine, the fonts are too small but, I'm not worried about that right now. I was under the impression that the "lpr" command would work with any file type. Isn't that the purpose of apsfilter??? I seem to be able to print anything by explicitly specifying my needs at the command line. I can print graphics from netscape. Am I using this incorrectly or is something not set up right??? I would appreciate any assistance, Steve -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] vim 5.0 compile problems
by 1sgray＠preferred.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Hi, I get the following error message when I try to compile vim 5.0: /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory I think SuSE uses something other than termcap. Could someone explain to me the purpose of termcap. Also, what does SuSE use as opposed to termcap. Thanks, ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Scott Gray <1sgray(a)preferred.com> Date: 29-Mar-98 Time: 04:11:01 We work in the dark We do what we can We give what we have Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task The rest is the madness of art. -- Henry James ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Darren wrote: > > It sounds like you -- and maybe that other guy -- got stung by the default confi > guration SuSE puts into the fstab for cdroms. They set the "user" option and th > at disables all execution from the cdrom. By commenting out the line in the fst > ab and manually mounting the drive, you did NOT set the user bit... you could ex > ectute from the cd... just my guess > Bingo! That was it exactly. I couldn't remember the "why", just the "how to fix it". I always set my removables to allow for user mount/umount because I don't use root 'cept for admin Thanks Mark -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

To comment a line in your fstab, simply insert a #-sign at the beginning of the line. My fstab looks like this: /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/sda1 /winc msdos defaults 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /wind msdos defaults 0 0 /dev/scd0 /cdwriter iso9660 ro,noauto,user 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 # End of YaST-generated fstab lines /dev/hdc /cdrom iso9660 ro,noauto,user 0 0 /dev/fd0 /fd0 ext2 noauto,user 0 0 /dev/fd0 /a msdos noauto,user 0 0 notice the line "# End of YaST-generated fstab lines" The # comments it out. Before messing with your fstab make a backup first. I have the client version, but I haven't really used it in a while. It runs kinda slow on my machine: amd k5-133 w/32megs. I have a crappy vieocard, so that might also affect it. Configuration was a pain (I like how fvwm is really easy, so that's what I use right now). It sure looks snazzy, but I'm a simple guy with simple needs and it was just too involved for me at the time. Maybe I'll take another crack at it, I don't have much to do tomorrow :) Luck Mark Jaime Smith wrote: > > Mark Wagnon wrote: > > Mark: > Could you tell me how did you commented the FStab to install your CDE software? > aI'm thinking on buying the developer's. Are you using developers or > client?....how is it?....Don't know yet.. if I should go for the CDE or Motiff. > Thanks.. anyway.. > JS > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: [PLUG] Linux Kernel Sound drivers
by waltman＠netaxs.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

The OSSFree home page is <A HREF="http://www.4front-tech.com/ossfree/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.4front-tech.com/ossfree/index.html</A">http://www.4front-tech.com/ossfree/index.html</A</A>> Walt Mankowski waltman(a)netaxs.com > > Where can I find updated sound drivers. I'm looking for an updated > Crystal chipset (CS4232 - I think) driver. > What about the OSSFree driver - where can I get this from?? > Any help will be appreciated. > -- > Dave E. > -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- > No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! > ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- > SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com > 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by jkrough＠mindspring.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Set-up sound with menuconfig first then use xconfig if you need to. In menuconfig there is an option for "old style" setup or something similar or along those lines, say yes and jump through the rest of the hoops, save and exit, you'll be asked if you want to save. Then you can use xconfig for the rest and to double check your sound setup. Jerome K. TEX wrote: > I have a genuine soundblaster 16. When trying to recompile the > kernal for sound it says "Error, you will need to configure the > soundcard with SOUND_CONFIGURATION option. What gives? After error > no zImage file shows up and I am afraid to go on from here. Thanks for > all the help. > > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE 5.1 (or 5.2?) vs RedHat 5.0
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Lawrence Sayre wrote: > I realize this is probably not a forum where I should be asking for > comments as to why I should choose one Linux distribution or another, so > could someone direct me to a site where objective comparisons of SuSE > and RedHat can be found, so I can decide which is for me. Actually, I have tried both, and found both to be very easy to install and setup:-) I was very impressed with Redhat's RPM thing and it was pretty easy as far as updates went. Suse's Yast on the other hand makes things a snap as far as setting up the network. But, there are things that I could do easier in RedHat than I can do in Suse, but perhaps that has more to do with "familiarity"? For one thing, it was very easy for me in Redhat to set up a script that would automatically call my provider, get my mail, and send it to the right user. But at that time, I only had one user that actually accessed the internet, but now I have 5 users, and according to what I've read, the Sendmail thing has changed quite a bit. As far as Dos apps goes, I had an easier time in Suse getting them to fire up, but I've still got some "configuration" bugs to work out as far as the displays goes. And some of my vga games which played in Redhat, I have not been able to get to play yet in Suse? (The set up procedure for dosemu in Suse is much simpler than what I had to work with in Redhat). I finally got Wine to run a couple of simple games in Suse (Something that I was never able to do in Redhat). Of course, part of that may be a radical difference between what I was running then and what I am running now. Oh yeah, there is one other thing I almost forgot, My redhat version gave me problems on installation unless I deleted the dos mirror images. And once it was installed, if I didn't like the way it loaded (Redhat) and wanted to reinstall, I had to purge Linux from my system and pretty much start over:-( For now about the only other thing that I had running on Redhat that I haven't gotten around to yet is my tape backups. cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Virtualism
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

TEX wrote: > Does anyone know a easy way to allow my mouse to push through to the > next virtual screen? > Depends on if you are in terminal mode or in Xfree? In terminal mode, I have no idea, I generally push Alt-F? with ?=[1..6] depending on the terminal I want to go into (Worked great in setting things up:-) In Xfree, I generally push on the little map at the top of the screen:-) > Do I need to recompile my kernal to get sound to work?? > If you did not include the support on your original compilation, then yes, also, there is a spot in the menuconfig (I don't remember exactly where as I stumbled on it on accident) but when you tell it your sound card, you will have to also go in by clicking on that option to actually "configure" the soundcard. Worked great here:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

--------------50D2714ADA7FB86D8DC54588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roy Keeley wrote: > I read the Init 1 and Init 2, but was unclear about the difference between the > two choices. You will > have to pardon the dumb question. > Actually, the main thing is that when you do "init 1" you unload the network support and "init 2" reloads the network support. If you view the file /etc/inittab, you will find a very good quick definition of the various levels..... runlevel 0 is halt runlevel S is single-user runlevel 1 is multi-user without network runlevel 2 is multi-user with network runlevel 3 is multi-user with network and xdm runlevel 6 is reboot That is why, when you change something in your network, you need to change to runlevel 1 to unload the software, and then change back to runlevel 2 to reinitialize the system for the changes that you made:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com --------------50D2714ADA7FB86D8DC54588 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Roy Keeley wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I read the Init 1 and Init 2, but was unclear about the difference between the two choices. You will have to pardon the dumb question. </BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, the main thing is that when you do "init 1" you <I>unload</I> the network support and "init 2" reloads the network support. If you view the file /etc/inittab, you will find a very good quick definition of the various levels..... <B>runlevel 0 is halt</B> <B>runlevel S is single-user</B> <B>runlevel 1 is multi-user without network</B> <B>runlevel 2 is multi-user with network</B> <B>runlevel 3 is multi-user with network and xdm</B> <B>runlevel 6 is reboot</B><B></B> That is why, when you change something in your network, you need to change to runlevel 1 to unload the software, and then change back to runlevel 2 to <I>reinitialize</I> the system for the changes that you made:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com</HTML> --------------50D2714ADA7FB86D8DC54588-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Tony Paulic wrote: > try any of: > > <A HREF="ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.…"><A HREF="ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.…</A">ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.…</A</A>> > > <A HREF="ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A">ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A</A>> > > <A HREF="ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz"><A HREF="ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A">ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A</A>> > > <<Tony>> I tried all three links via netscape and all three came back being unable to find the file, check name and try again. But meanwhile, the above is a good excuse for me to jump in with another little problem that I've come across as far as netscape is concerned. That is I can send and recieve mail with no problem, but as soon as I try to attach a file to a message in netscape, it causes the modem to send a hangup signal as long as netscape is trying to send that message and/or get confirmation that it has been sent. I can use Pine and it will send the message and the attached file(s) with no problem. I am currently using netscape 4.04 for linux. Does anyone have any ideas what the problem is? BTW, I have netscape installed in /usr/local/netscape with links to /opt/netscape. (I found that this proved to be the most efficient way of doing it due to space constraints on my system) Thanx Loads! Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by gecko＠animalink.org 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

On 29-Mar-98 Mark Wagnon wrote: > >This may be completely unrelated to your situation, but then it just >might help :) > >I bought the Triteal CDE from RedHat when I was still using redhat. to >install it you needed to run install-CDE which was located under /cdrom. >I too kept getting permission denied. redhat's solution was that I >comment the cdrom entry in my /etc/fstab. I folloed their advice and it >worked. after I installed, I simply fixed my fstab file. > >Maybe there is a similar problem with applixware? > >Good luck anyway > >Mark > > > > >Philip Bennett wrote: >> >> Help. I recently switched from Red Hat 5.0 to S.u.S.E. 5.1. I didn't realize >> that Applixware was designed for Red Hat. I tried to ./install-applix from >> my /cdrom but got a "Permission Denied" message. I also tried to install it >> with RPM but was informed that Applix menus was also needed. Does anyone >> know how I might install it? I really enjoy using it. BTW I also am really >> enjoying S.u.S.E. 5.1. >> >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by gecko＠animalink.org 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

It sounds like you -- and maybe that other guy -- got stung by the default confi guration SuSE puts into the fstab for cdroms. They set the "user" option and th at disables all execution from the cdrom. By commenting out the line in the fst ab and manually mounting the drive, you did NOT set the user bit... you could ex ectute from the cd... just my guess On 29-Mar-98 Mark Wagnon wrote: > >This may be completely unrelated to your situation, but then it just >might help :) > >I bought the Triteal CDE from RedHat when I was still using redhat. to >install it you needed to run install-CDE which was located under /cdrom. >I too kept getting permission denied. redhat's solution was that I >comment the cdrom entry in my /etc/fstab. I folloed their advice and it >worked. after I installed, I simply fixed my fstab file. > >Maybe there is a similar problem with applixware? > >Good luck anyway > >Mark > > > > >Philip Bennett wrote: >> >> Help. I recently switched from Red Hat 5.0 to S.u.S.E. 5.1. I didn't realize >> that Applixware was designed for Red Hat. I tried to ./install-applix from >> my /cdrom but got a "Permission Denied" message. I also tried to install it >> with RPM but was informed that Applix menus was also needed. Does anyone >> know how I might install it? I really enjoy using it. BTW I also am really >> enjoying S.u.S.E. 5.1. >> >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by jaime＠gate.net 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Mark Wagnon wrote: > This may be completely unrelated to your situation, but then it just > might help :) > > I bought the Triteal CDE from RedHat when I was still using redhat. to > install it you needed to run install-CDE which was located under /cdrom. > I too kept getting permission denied. redhat's solution was that I > comment the cdrom entry in my /etc/fstab. I folloed their advice and it > worked. after I installed, I simply fixed my fstab file. > > Maybe there is a similar problem with applixware? > > Good luck anyway > > Mark > > Philip Bennett wrote: > > > > Help. I recently switched from Red Hat 5.0 to S.u.S.E. 5.1. I didn't realize > > that Applixware was designed for Red Hat. I tried to ./install-applix from > > my /cdrom but got a "Permission Denied" message. I also tried to install it > > with RPM but was informed that Applix menus was also needed. Does anyone > > know how I might install it? I really enjoy using it. BTW I also am really > > enjoying S.u.S.E. 5.1. > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Mark: Could you tell me how did you commented the FStab to install your CDE software? aI'm thinking on buying the developer's. Are you using developers or client?....how is it?....Don't know yet.. if I should go for the CDE or Motiff. Thanks.. anyway.. JS -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Kernel Sound drivers
by dedwards＠technologist.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Where can I find updated sound drivers. I'm looking for an updated Crystal chipset (CS4232 - I think) driver. What about the OSSFree driver - where can I get this from?? Any help will be appreciated. -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

This may be completely unrelated to your situation, but then it just might help :) I bought the Triteal CDE from RedHat when I was still using redhat. to install it you needed to run install-CDE which was located under /cdrom. I too kept getting permission denied. redhat's solution was that I comment the cdrom entry in my /etc/fstab. I folloed their advice and it worked. after I installed, I simply fixed my fstab file. Maybe there is a similar problem with applixware? Good luck anyway Mark Philip Bennett wrote: > > Help. I recently switched from Red Hat 5.0 to S.u.S.E. 5.1. I didn't realize > that Applixware was designed for Red Hat. I tried to ./install-applix from > my /cdrom but got a "Permission Denied" message. I also tried to install it > with RPM but was informed that Applix menus was also needed. Does anyone > know how I might install it? I really enjoy using it. BTW I also am really > enjoying S.u.S.E. 5.1. > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by jaime＠gate.net 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Philip Bennett wrote: > Help. I recently switched from Red Hat 5.0 to S.u.S.E. 5.1. I didn't realize > that Applixware was designed for Red Hat. I tried to ./install-applix from > my /cdrom but got a "Permission Denied" message. I also tried to install it > with RPM but was informed that Applix menus was also needed. Does anyone > know how I might install it? I really enjoy using it. BTW I also am really > enjoying S.u.S.E. 5.1. > > Thanks, > > Phil Bennett > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Hey Phil.. I had the same problem when I changed from Red Hat 5.0 to S.u.S.E.. Solution: Please follow the instructions on the README file in CDROM. Also, you can go here for details on how to install it.. Basically, you have to do it manually.. <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html</A">http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/lr_applix_fehler.html</A</A>> hope this helps!! JS -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware & S.u.S.E
by jaime＠gate.net 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Help..... Guys... I have 3 questions: 1) Printing under Applixware does not seem to work.. printing is legible, but the font is approximately 16 points. I have not been able to reduce the size.. It prints fine under other programs (netscape & Vi)..Is there an option to reduce the options under Applixware??? I'm using the epsonc filter. 2) I can receive E-mail, but I cannot send.. It's giving me error as cannot be sent.. any ideas? 3) Spreadsheet cannot import worksheets.. I'm using Applixware 4.3.7 and S.u.S.E 5.1 appreciate any help.. Thanks. JS -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Applixware on S.u.S.E.
by pbnt＠mindspring.com 29 Mar '98

29 Mar '98

Help. I recently switched from Red Hat 5.0 to S.u.S.E. 5.1. I didn't realize that Applixware was designed for Red Hat. I tried to ./install-applix from my /cdrom but got a "Permission Denied" message. I also tried to install it with RPM but was informed that Applix menus was also needed. Does anyone know how I might install it? I really enjoy using it. BTW I also am really enjoying S.u.S.E. 5.1. Thanks, Phil Bennett -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Shutdown, /etc/mtab and Booting
by netd＠fastrans.net 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

I reported earlier how a power failure caused a machine to come up in single user mode, and this message: echo "fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. The root" echo "file system is currently mounted read-only. To remount it" echo "read-write do:" echo echo " bash# mount -n -o remount,rw / " echo echo "Attention: Only CONTROL-D will reboot the system in this" echo "maintanance mode. shutdown or reboot will not work." echo So I mounted / with the above command and it worked. Then I did a 'umount /' and got an error mentioning the absence of one '/etc/mtab'. I copied /etc/fstab to /etc/mtab ... then when I did a ' umount / ' it didn't error ... hmmm Somehow /etc/mtab got deleted before / was properly umounted... and this must be the trigger for the above"fsck failed" message and subsequent screw job that leaves you unable to change init levels or do much else. I successfully umounted the drive and then proceeded to run e2fsck with evry option known to man to no avail. But when I ran: fsck -Par -b 8193 /dev/sda1 It actually fixed the damn thing. Next, when it booted correctly, I noticed my /etc/mtab that was just a copy of /etc/fstab was replaced by a system generated /etc/mtab that looked like this: /dev/sdb1 / ext2 rw 1 1 none /proc proc rw 0 0 So now I've saved it to an /etc/mtab.backup. I'm closer to understanding the mtab relationship to the mount/umount reboot process, but not entirely sure about a simple recovery procedure. I'm not sure if it was as simple as the "fsck -Par -b 8193 /dev/sda1 ", and the copying of /etc/fstab to /etc/mtab, then mounting and then umounting the drive that reset the mystery flag - but it's something like that. At least now I know a bit more about it. Please publish some solid concrete information about mtab and how it's related to a proper shutdown. If all it needed was to have run " fsck -Par /dev/sda1 "and then copy of /etc/mtab.backup copied to /etc/mtab, and then run fsck or vs versa - then that should be incorporated into your boot recovery process. -tks- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting)
by stefan.troeger＠wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Hi Dave, On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 20:51 -0500, dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > > On 26 Mar, Hubert Mantel wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS > >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS > >> > >> Is this bad?? - what can I do to get rid of these messages?? > > > > AFAIK this is just a workaround for some old harddrives. Do you have > > ancient Seagate drives? I think it's just informational and should not > > cause any problems. > > > >> Dave E. > > > > Hubert > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > No, Actually, what I *did* have was a Maxtor 2.1g drive on the first > onboard EIDE controller, with my 24x CDRom drive as a slave (which skips > on audio tracks - but thats another question :->). > I re-compiled my kernel to take advantage of my 2nd onboard EIDE > controller, set my CDRom up as a Master and put it onto the @nd > controller. > The CDRom works, the Maxtor 2.1g drive works, but now I get the above > messages - looks like the boot is expecting something in the slave > position of the 1st controller (/dev/hdb) which *used* to be my > CDRom. Maybe there is some unusual (for me anyways) setting I have > failed to make or unset. I've just had a look at an installation guide of my old Maxtor HD. It says there are three possible settings for the Master/Slave configuration: 1) Only drive in single drive system 2) Master in dual drive system 3) Slave in dual drive system. Could it be that your HD uses similar settings and is set to (2)? If so, you might try setting it to (1). Ciao Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Lost packets
by brauki＠cww.de 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

On 28-Mar-98 Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > Hi > > I got ISDN working, so it connects to my ISP, when there's traffic for > the Internet. That's GreAT! But! > > It seems that there are some lost packets in the initiation, and while > it's no big deal with HTML requests, it's a disaster for SMTP, and I > never get qmail to deliver any mail. > > Anybody know what's wrong and what to do to it? Hello Kaare, yes, this is a known bug. The solution is descrobed in the German Support Data Base. Basicly it is a Kernal patch. I edited it from Hand, since direct patching did not work. I modified (Kernel 2.0.33) two files, one for the "lost" packet, the other to get proper OPEN messages (isdnctrl verbose 3) in my messages file. I must have a tar archive somewhere, since i've posted this a few times. The better solution is to use the up-to-date SuSE Kernel, this should include this and some other patches. If you want, I'll mail the archive. Just ask. ;-)) Jürgen ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Windowmaker and Icons
by dedwards＠technologist.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

If there are any SuSE users using windowmaker - there are *Lots* of 3d icons in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/3dpixmaps(/next; /normal). I changed the mapping of PixmapPath in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker to include these paths, and voila, I've got a ton more icons to choose from 8-)). (i'm sure I'm the last one to find this out, but what the heck!!) -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Need to install wabi on SuSE 5.1
by mperry＠basin.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Hi- I am at the point in resurrecting my system that I would like to get wabi back on so I can get quicken and corel 3 working. Could someone from SuSE or the mailing list please repost their excellent directions for installing wabi? The rpm's cause a segmentation fault when I attempt to run them and I do not remember what I did last time to get it working. Thanks -- Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ----------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

--------------BEE07CD0A2DF46E3095F5CBB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a genuine soundblaster 16. When trying to recompile the kernal for sound it says "Error, you will need to configure the soundcard with SOUND_CONFIGURATION option. What gives? After error no zImage file shows up and I am afraid to go on from here. Thanks for all the help. -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... --------------BEE07CD0A2DF46E3095F5CBB Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> I have a genuine soundblaster 16. When trying to recompile the kernal for sound it says "Error, you will need to configure the soundcard with SOUND_CONFIGURATION option. What gives? After error no zImage file shows up and I am afraid to go on from here. Thanks for all the help. -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... </HTML> --------------BEE07CD0A2DF46E3095F5CBB-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Lost packets
by kar＠webline.dk 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Hi I got ISDN working, so it connects to my ISP, when there's traffic for the Internet. That's GreAT! But! It seems that there are some lost packets in the initiation, and while it's no big deal with HTML requests, it's a disaster for SMTP, and I never get qmail to deliver any mail. Anybody know what's wrong and what to do to it? -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound and Printer Driver
by gecko＠animalink.org 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

On 28-Mar-98 P.C. Chan wrote: >For the sound card, I had rebuilt the kernel/module N times plus using >isapnp but still had no luck. I guess the 82C931 chip set is quite >different from the Sound Blaster Pro which it emulates. I was able to get my PnP sound card to work by compiling for Crystal CS4232 base d (PnP) cards. Next, you're gonna ask what type it is...and I don't have that at the tip of my fingers.. it's at work. ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] MBR utility?
by gecko＠animalink.org 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

On 28-Mar-98 Steven T. Hatton wrote: >device I boot off. I would like to boot off Lynix drive. I am not sure >how to do this. Perhaps I just need to read up on LILO. Merely setting >the boot device to hdc in the CMOS did not cause LILO to install the >Linux MBR to the second HD. It attempted, without sucsess, to install >to the HD where my NT w/NTFS is installed. I don't have specifics, but let me try to direct you in the right direction. Fr om Yast (which means there's be a corrosponding lilo.conf entry) to install lilo to "Boot record of the root partition " ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ <A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html"><A HREF="http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A">http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html</A</A>> ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by slk＠grace.acm.rpi.edu 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

--MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On %M %N, Michael Perry wrote >=20 > The other option for a new newsgroup is to reflect the list to a > newsgroup. I have participated in a few newsgroup creations in the > past for OS/2 stuff and had decided at one point to reflect a mailing > list to a newsgroup. This never happened though. Each approach had > its advantages. I would vote for a reflected mailing list to newsgroup > approach personally. Considering the spam volume that many of us already get, I would vote for having a separate newsgroup and mailing list. This mailing list is a lot better without getting tons of spam posts a day. In a lot of cases (i.e. the ssh list), the gateway was made one-way because of the amount of spam posted (most usenet users won't even see it due to cancels or filtering like cleanfeed or spamhippo), and even then there were lots of complaints. --Simon --=20 Simon Karpen karpes(a)rpi.edu slk(a)acm.rpi.edu #include <std_disclaimer.h> I don't speak for RPI in any way. Get my PGP key from: <A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc"><A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A">http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A</A>> "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Ben Franklin --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQCVAwUBNR0wcmM3IvLfFy0lAQHK3QP9FYbb0XGICqBO7Kya4FWdPiPowMFtHz3Z L3H1adqmu2/kcS9t2bIbIArNX60nzGYLMzBiMrNhXv7xG/2oJe/reTXU1VfHK4iy /dLUXwAfdT6MxapN8T1yJky9eLyeCBVSoQ34FOum2OUW9LbGPfLAlfOP9OLH/jP7 byANQAeEDFs= =FGsq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] MBR utility?
by zentara＠mindspring.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > I have installed my suse on the second hard drive of my system. This > drive came out of an older system that required a dynamic drive > overlay. My current system provides me the ability to configure which > device I boot off. I would like to boot off Lynix drive. I am not > sure how to do this. Perhaps I just need to read up on LILO. Merely > setting the boot device to hdc in the CMOS did not cause LILO to > install the Linux MBR to the second HD. It attempted, without > sucsess, to install to the HD where my NT w/NTFS is installed. > > Right now, when I attempt to boot off hdc, I get an error from the > Disk Manager which (I believe) resides on the MBR. I believet that > this could be fixed by replacing this drive in the hda position and > using DOS fdisk. I do have an ancient copy of DOS 6.22. It bothers > me that I would need to resort to using this obsoleete method to do > anything, especially solving a Linux problem. > > Even if I were able to put the DOS MBR on the dirve, I still don't know how to make it boot Linux. > > Any pointers? > It sounds like you have the type of setup that would benefit from "System Commander", it allows all sorts of configurations. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by zentara＠mindspring.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Roy Keeley wrote: > > I read the Init 1 and Init 2, but was unclear about the difference between the > two choices. You will > have to pardon the dumb question. > Hi, Look on page 167-168 of the 5.1 manual for a description of init levels. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Disk manager.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

TEX wrote: > > I have a 95 box with 3 gigs available.. However, It has diskmanagers > Mask installed to allow all of it to be seen. I have heard some > distributions of Linux can live on these types of setup, but Will SuSe > do ok within this overlay? I know I will probably have to use loadlin > Lilo will probably work if installed in the MBR. Look on page 138 of the 5.1 manual, it explains it. Apparently later versions of linux can deal with the diskmanglers; but only as a makeshift patch. I had problems with it myself on a 2.7 gig drive. With diskmangler installed and partitions created with win95; I would get error messages saying "sectors do not end on cylinders" when I tried to use linux's fdisk. Maybe the secret is to set up the partitions with win95's fdisk, then install linux into a dos partition after changing it to type 83? I wish a partitioning expert would give the definitive answer on this. Maybe there isn't one since there are so many variables. I found it gets pretty weird with 3 or 4 ide drives with disk-mangler installed. Win95's fdisk likes to do things in it's own way, and disk-mangler likes to accomodate it... that leaves linux's fdisk out in the cold. Considering that you really don't need to use it, why take the chance? As a test, why don't you use a boot and root floppy to boot the win95 machine and start linux's fdisk. See if it likes the partitions or not. If you get error warnings, then you are probably risking it. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Tax Program for Linux
by jaime＠gate.net 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Any good MIDI players out-there I can use under S.u.S.E? thanks. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] httpd problems
by K.Y.Lo＠soton.ac.uk 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Hello I had installed apache www server with cgi-bin. And I was testing to fill in the form with cgi-bin then send mail. it went error. I gonna write mailer.pl on the CGI-BIN/Perl language thats why. It says:- Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, user(a)wibble.edu and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. Help me! I configure httpd with cgi-bin. it works with test-cgi in the CGI-BIN directory with httpd server. I have no idea that thank you -- Cheers K.Y.Lo Email: kyl(a)soton.ac.uk -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by mperry＠basin.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

On 27 Mar, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > Luis A. Costabile wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, TEX wrote: >> >> > >> > What would it take to get a SuSE newsgroup up? I havn't got a >> > clue.. There seems to be enough traffic. Thanks >> > >> >> Why have a newsgroup? just more chance of spam. >> >> -- >> Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 >> <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> >> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. >> -- >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > I have had the same thought. A news group would be nice. What happened to me > today is but one example of why a NG would be advantageous. My mail server was > moved from one server to another. During the time that the new server was > running without the proper user database, I probably lost mail sent to me. > > It would be nice to be able to search for answers that have already been posted > to questions. This could cut down on repetition. I also have a problem > managing the large amount of mail that I get. Being on mailing lists, > especially ones as busy as this, causes my mail management problem to increase > greatly. > > I know basically what it takes. I have set up news servers with Netscape's > Collaborate. I am not sure what resources this would take. My news groups are > small. In a few months I may have resources capable of supporting a modest > sized NG. > > As far as spammers go, kill 'em! Well, perhaps we could have a closed news > group instead. There are ways of accomplishing this. > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e The other option for a new newsgroup is to reflect the list to a newsgroup. I have participated in a few newsgroup creations in the past for OS/2 stuff and had decided at one point to reflect a mailing list to a newsgroup. This never happened though. Each approach had its advantages. I would vote for a reflected mailing list to newsgroup approach personally. -- Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ----------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Virtualism
by tpaulic＠hotmail.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

I'm not 100ure, but when I ran xf86config to setup XWindows, in the screen modes section, if you choose to change them, you are also asked if you want to make a virtual screen larger than you're current screen. I've always chosen no, but if you chose yes, then it should in theory work. It worked when I used afterstep window manager, but I haven't tried it with KDE. Yes, you need to recompile the kernel for sound support. The Kernel HOWTO is pretty good at explaining this. <<Tony>> >Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:54:57 -0600 >From: TEX <mhtexcollins(a)ccms.net> >To: "suse-linux-e(a)suse.com" <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> >Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Virtualism >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > Does anyone know a easy way to allow my mouse to push through to the >next virtual screen? > > Do I need to recompile my kernal to get sound to work?? > > Thanks a million. > >-- >LINUX IS THE PATH. > >TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE 5.1 (or 5.2?) vs RedHat 5.0
by lsayre＠en.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

I realize this is probably not a forum where I should be asking for comments as to why I should choose one Linux distribution or another, so could someone direct me to a site where objective comparisons of SuSE and RedHat can be found, so I can decide which is for me. Thank you, Larry Sayre ------------------------------------------- Man's mind is his basic tool of survival! lsayre(a)en.com <Lawrence Sayre> ------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by hettar＠teleport.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Martin Houston wrote: > > I am happy that there is a choice of distributions and want it to > continue. That is why I sell both Caldera OpenLinux and Suse, they are > both great products but each has different strengths so you would be > poorer if you had to make an arbitrary choice between them. > I tried as my first Distro Caldera's Open Linux Base, I gota say I was very displeased with the product. I noticed it has broken bash terms, as in no color. No Pico for another thing, yes as a person just getting into Linux, I was very displeased. I see they sell a "hyped" up Full version for like 500 bucks? Are they crazy? LINUX should be free, I don't care if they included Whatever, all thier stuff on the list can be gotten free practicly. SuSE is awesome, tho here in the US no one suggests getting the SuSE distro on a daily bases, I do see people saying I got Red Hat 5.0 and it is giveing me (insert problem here). I Do and have suggested SuSE or Debian to my freinds and people who ask me, what Linux Distro to install. I am looking forward to SuSE 6.? with glibc6 GNOME project and various other projects out there. And various games that are "not just ported" but fully for Linux in the future. With Xfree working on 3d for the boards they have 2d for, 3dfx Open GL and glide, Mesa (when they get a full working code of it) Nothing will stop Linux from taking away some the attention corupted direct X and never ending long winded sales pitches to buy this new version of this OS it will work even better at letting you re-install it from scratch 20times a year just to get rid of problems. MS.OS.USER> Did you just Nuke me? Linux User> What on earth would I need a nuke for, your OS nukes itself on a daily basis. I see a total new war when MS closes its 98 and trys to PUSH NT 4.0 with a (UNIX) base, LAUGH. Even they see the Light. + they will charge just as much if not more for THIER version of UNIX(NT4.0) wich of course will include thier OWN version of Java from SUN Mircosystems. And of course it wont work with normal UNIX software. -- Steven Udell Wayfarers hettar(a)teleport.com for truth love sudell(a)teleport.com and courage <A HREF="http://www.teleport.com/~hettar"><A HREF="http://www.teleport.com/~hettar</A">http://www.teleport.com/~hettar</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by netsomni＠fastrans.net 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

O.K. Where is it? :-) > I take it you haven't seen TUCOLS yet?? > > --- > jonathan(a)aracnet.net > > Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, "The moon is more useful > than the sun." "Why?", he was asked. "Because at night we need the > light more." -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by rkeeley＠dibbs.net 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

I read the Init 1 and Init 2, but was unclear about the difference between the two choices. You will have to pardon the dumb question. Leon McClatchey wrote: > Pascal Bleser wrote: > > > P.S.: why you people always reboot your machines ?? > > The only case in which you have to reboot is when you wan't to change the > > kernel you're using... > > Use "init" !! > > e.g.: shutdown all network daemons and all network interfaces, and them > > fire'm up again (for example, if you changed your IP address) : > > root# init 1; init 2 > > (do not enter "root#" ;-) it's a prompt) > > This takes about 5-10 seconds... > > hehe, I for one sometimes reboot out of habit, (Used to running Os/2 and in > order to make the new configuration changes take effect, you have to reboot, > but sometimes I do remember and do the init 1, init 2 thing:-) > > cya l8r > Leon McClatchey > leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- 73's Roy KC4IMC rkeeley(a)dibbs.net rkeeley(a)acan.net kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org Snail Mail = 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA APS #158954 - ARA #4750 - C&LS #162 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by tpaulic＠hotmail.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

try any of: <A HREF="ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.…"><A HREF="ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.…</A">ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/systems/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.…</A</A>> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A">ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/sunsite/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A</A>> <A HREF="ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz"><A HREF="ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A">ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/Incoming/pppsetup-1.96.tar.gz</A</A>> <<Tony>> >Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:22:13 -0500 >From: Mike Davis <mikedav(a)ibm.net> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >Where did you get pppsetup? > >Mike Davis > >Tony Paulic wrote: > >> I tried following the readmes and howtos to setup ppp with no luck. It >> wasn't until I downloaded a program called pppsetup that I was able to >> do it. Also, my provider runs the service on a NT server using CHAP >> protocol. I think this was my problem all along. pppsetup configured >> this beautifully and had me running in minutes. >> >> <<Tony>> >> >> >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:20:17 -0500 >> >From: Michael Galloway <mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov> >> >To: SuSE Mail Exploder <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> >> >Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp >> >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >> > >> > >> >good day all ... >> > >> >i'm making some progess getting my modem and ppp up and running. >> >using, xisp, i can make the modem dial and negotiate with my >> >isp server. however, when xisp brings up the terminal window, >> >after a few seconds the i get a 'No Carrier' error. i'm sure i'm >> >missing something simple. i did compile a new kernel with ppp support >> >(dmesg reports PPP version 2.2.0 and PPP line discipline registered) >> >so at least i've made some progress. >> > >> >any help would be apprciated. >> > >> >-- >> >-- michael >> >-- >> >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] MBR utility?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

--------------B1FCBCCA15BB7C9AB111CFFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have installed my suse on the second hard drive of my system. This drive came out of an older system that required a dynamic drive overlay. My current system provides me the ability to configure which device I boot off. I would like to boot off Lynix drive. I am not sure how to do this. Perhaps I just need to read up on LILO. Merely setting the boot device to hdc in the CMOS did not cause LILO to install the Linux MBR to the second HD. It attempted, without sucsess, to install to the HD where my NT w/NTFS is installed. Right now, when I attempt to boot off hdc, I get an error from the Disk Manager which (I believe) resides on the MBR. I believet that this could be fixed by replacing this drive in the hda position and using DOS fdisk. I do have an ancient copy of DOS 6.22. It bothers me that I would need to resort to using this obsoleete method to do anything, especially solving a Linux problem. Even if I were able to put the DOS MBR on the dirve, I still don't know how to make it boot Linux. Any pointers? Steve -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------B1FCBCCA15BB7C9AB111CFFC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> I have installed my suse on the second hard drive of my system. This drive came out of an older system that required a dynamic drive overlay. My current system provides me the ability to configure which device I boot off. I would like to boot off Lynix drive. I am not sure how to do this. Perhaps I just need to read up on LILO. Merely setting the boot device to hdc in the CMOS did not cause LILO to install the Linux MBR to the second HD. It attempted, without sucsess, to install to the HD where my NT w/NTFS is installed. Right now, when I attempt to boot off hdc, I get an error from the Disk Manager which (I believe) resides on the MBR. I believet that this could be fixed by replacing this drive in the hda position and using DOS fdisk. I do have an ancient copy of DOS 6.22. It bothers me that I would need to resort to using this obsoleete method to do anything, especially solving a Linux problem. Even if I were able to put the DOS MBR on the dirve, I still don't know how to make it boot Linux. Any pointers? Steve -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </HTML> --------------B1FCBCCA15BB7C9AB111CFFC-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound and Printer Driver
by pcchan＠Newbridge.COM 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

I brought a new hard disk for my PC at home and vacated 2G to install Linux. It's great since it is talking more or less the same language as my unix box at work. However I could not find any suitable drivers for my OPTi931 PNP sound card and Lexmark 1000 Colour Jet which both worked fine under window 95. For the sound card, I had rebuilt the kernel/module N times plus using isapnp but still had no luck. I guess the 82C931 chip set is quite different from the Sound Blaster Pro which it emulates. Officially SuSe (redhat nor slackware) does not support these two items, but does anybody have any idea where to find the drivers or any success in write one on their own. I just don't want to throw them away yet. Regards, PC -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

--------------970DAA49E32C90AEDBE10691 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony, I have looked at this. I guess the number that I see there is my refresh rate, "60". I can't figure out any way, short of playing with the settings in xvidtune, to change that. XF86Setup does not present me with a clear way to configure a 1600 X 1280 monitor's refresh rate. It looks to me that I am at a higher rate than 60. I can usually see a flicker at 60 Hz, and I don't see one now. Steve Tony Paulic wrote: > Try running xvidtune, but be careful with the app. I understand it can > be nasty to the system if played with. Just have a quick peek at the > values. It shows refresh rate, etc... > > <<Tony>> > > >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:58:37 -0500 > >From: "Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> > >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation? > >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > > > >paulic wrote: > > > >> Andrew L. Davis wrote: > >> > >> > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Michael, > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. > Unfortunately I > >> > > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have > tried the > >> > > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When > the pointer > >> > > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop > looks like > >> > > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves > netscape the > >> > > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this > means that > >> > > I am changing color maps. > >> > > >> > Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 > and that > >> > will solve your problems. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations > >> > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink > International > >> > -- > >> > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com > with > >> > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >> > >> Try: > >> > >> exec X :0 -auth $HOME/.Xauthority -bpp 16 > >> > >> in your $HOME/.xserverrc file (or -bpp 32 if your card can handle it) > >> > >> <<Tony>> > >> > >> -- > >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > Tony, > > > >Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why > it was set > >to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. > :-) I > >attempted to understan my XF86Config. I read the associated man page > as well. I > >still can figure out what it all means. > > > >How do I determine things like my refresh rate and my resolution? I > think I am at > >1600X1280 X 16 bpp and 74 hz. I just don't know. What ever it is, my > new > >ViewSonic, G810 beats the S#$0ut of my the ViewSonic 4e that I have > been using > >for the last four years! > > > >Thanks much. > > > >Steve > > > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. --------------970DAA49E32C90AEDBE10691 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Tony, I have looked at this. I guess the number that I see there is my refresh rate, "60". I can't figure out any way, short of playing with the settings in xvidtune, to change that. XF86Setup does not present me with a clear way to configure a 1600 X 1280 monitor's refresh rate. It looks to me that I am at a higher rate than 60. I can usually see a flicker at 60 Hz, and I don't see one now. Steve Tony Paulic wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Try running xvidtune, but be careful with the app. I understand it can be nasty to the system if played with. Just have a quick peek at the values. It shows refresh rate, etc... <<Tony>> >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:58:37 -0500 >From: "Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation? >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >paulic wrote: > >> Andrew L. Davis wrote: >> >> > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: >> > > >> > > Michael, >> > > >> > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. Unfortunately I >> > > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have tried the >> > > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When the pointer >> > > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop looks like >> > > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves netscape the >> > > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this means that >> > > I am changing color maps. >> > >> > Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 and that >> > will solve your problems. >> > >> > -- >> > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations >> > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International >> > -- >> > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> >> Try: >> >> exec X :0 -auth $HOME/.Xauthority -bpp 16 >> >> in your $HOME/.xserverrc file (or -bpp 32 if your card can handle it) >> >> <<Tony>> >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Tony, > >Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why it was set >to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. :-) I >attempted to understan my XF86Config. I read the associated man page as well. I >still can figure out what it all means. > >How do I determine things like my refresh rate and my resolution? I think I am at >1600X1280 X 16 bpp and 74 hz. I just don't know. What ever it is, my new >ViewSonic, G810 beats the S#$0ut of my the ViewSonic 4e that I have been using >for the last four years! > >Thanks much. > >Steve > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</A> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e</BLOCKQUOTE> -- "Alles Vergaengliche Ist nur ein Gleichniss" -Goethe, as quoted in Ludwig Boltzmann's vorlessungen ueber Gastheorie. </HTML> --------------970DAA49E32C90AEDBE10691-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Disk manager.
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

I have a 95 box with 3 gigs available.. However, It has diskmanagers Mask installed to allow all of it to be seen. I have heard some distributions of Linux can live on these types of setup, but Will SuSe do ok within this overlay? I know I will probably have to use loadlin or a floppy to boot, but I can do that. At least until Bill is out of this house. Thanks for any input.. -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Virtualism
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Does anyone know a easy way to allow my mouse to push through to the next virtual screen? Do I need to recompile my kernal to get sound to work?? Thanks a million. -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Luis A. Costabile wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, TEX wrote: > > > > > What would it take to get a SuSE newsgroup up? I havn't got a > > clue.. There seems to be enough traffic. Thanks > > > > Why have a newsgroup? just more chance of spam. > > -- > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 > <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> > To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. > -- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e I have had the same thought. A news group would be nice. What happened to me today is but one example of why a NG would be advantageous. My mail server was moved from one server to another. During the time that the new server was running without the proper user database, I probably lost mail sent to me. It would be nice to be able to search for answers that have already been posted to questions. This could cut down on repetition. I also have a problem managing the large amount of mail that I get. Being on mailing lists, especially ones as busy as this, causes my mail management problem to increase greatly. I know basically what it takes. I have set up news servers with Netscape's Collaborate. I am not sure what resources this would take. My news groups are small. In a few months I may have resources capable of supporting a modest sized NG. As far as spammers go, kill 'em! Well, perhaps we could have a closed news group instead. There are ways of accomplishing this. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting)
by dedwards＠technologist.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

On 26 Mar, Hubert Mantel wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > > [...] > >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS >> >> Is this bad?? - what can I do to get rid of these messages?? > > AFAIK this is just a workaround for some old harddrives. Do you have > ancient Seagate drives? I think it's just informational and should not > cause any problems. > >> Dave E. > > Hubert > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e No, Actually, what I *did* have was a Maxtor 2.1g drive on the first onboard EIDE controller, with my 24x CDRom drive as a slave (which skips on audio tracks - but thats another question :->). I re-compiled my kernel to take advantage of my 2nd onboard EIDE controller, set my CDRom up as a Master and put it onto the @nd controller. The CDRom works, the Maxtor 2.1g drive works, but now I get the above messages - looks like the boot is expecting something in the slave position of the 1st controller (/dev/hdb) which *used* to be my CDRom. Maybe there is some unusual (for me anyways) setting I have failed to make or unset. -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ext2
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Pascal Bleser wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find a good documentation about the ext2 fs ? > It doesn't have to be too precise, but I can't find any ! > (no, no, the ext2fs howto only explains how to (try to) retrieve deleted > files) > > Thanx, people ! > > Pascal Well, I just got a driver for the ext2 fs for os/2 warp, and it does have some excellent docs in it as far as how the ext2 fs is set up. It also does a pretty good job about explaining the different utilities, and goes into quite a bit about how different file systems are accessed. You might look at <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/5313"><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/5313</A">http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/5313</A</A>> for more information:-) BTW, the info file included in the package is in .inf format for the view program in os2:-( cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Pascal Bleser wrote: > P.S.: why you people always reboot your machines ?? > The only case in which you have to reboot is when you wan't to change the > kernel you're using... > Use "init" !! > e.g.: shutdown all network daemons and all network interfaces, and them > fire'm up again (for example, if you changed your IP address) : > root# init 1; init 2 > (do not enter "root#" ;-) it's a prompt) > This takes about 5-10 seconds... hehe, I for one sometimes reboot out of habit, (Used to running Os/2 and in order to make the new configuration changes take effect, you have to reboot, but sometimes I do remember and do the init 1, init 2 thing:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Fat32 patch
by zentara＠mindspring.com 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Hubert Mantel wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > > > It just dawned on me, that my old Caldera Linux 1.1 > > distribution had an option in the kernel menuconfig > > for fat32 support, along with vfat. > > > > How come it isn't in SuSe 5.1 ? > > This patch changes fundamental parts of the kernel. As long as Linus > himself does not include this patch into the official kernel, we want to > be on the safe side. I do not want to read postings "S.u.S.E.'s patched > kernel ate my harddisk" ;-) > > > Anyone know where to get the kernel patch? > > Unpack the archive /unsorted/patches/kernel-patches.tgz on CD#1. There you > will find the VFAT32 Patch, the NTFS driver and some other useful things > that did not yet make their way into the standard kernel. > > Hi Hubert, I don't want to get you upset, since you know all the answers.:-) But that patch dosn't work, or else I'm way off in applying it. First it isn't named VFAT32, its called fat32_joliet_nls_patch-0.2.8. And it apparently was for "linux-2.0.31-clean" ; cause it won't work on "linux-2.0.33.pre.SuSE.3". All it did was REMOVE the vfat option from the filesystems menu in menuconfig. I don't use fat32 anyways, so it really dosn't matter--no complaints. But it would be nice to tell people that SuSe supports fat32, and even Microsoft dosn't yet in NT. I seem to remember it worked OK under Caldera, it didn't seem buggy. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ext2
by stefan.troeger＠wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de 28 Mar '98

28 Mar '98

Hi, On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 09:39 +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find a good documentation about the ext2 fs ? > It doesn't have to be too precise, but I can't find any ! > (no, no, the ext2fs howto only explains how to (try to) retrieve deleted > files) The "System Administrator's Guide" (package documentation/books on your SuSE-CD) has an appendix about the ext2 filesystem. Ciao Stefan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Legal?
by james＠suse.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Hi! > Is it legal to make copies of the CD's in the S.u.S.E. distribution? It's legal to do as many installs as you want. If you want to create a commercial product with it or reproduce it for further distribution, we ask that you would ask us. In all daily activities we treat YaST like a GPL'd utility. It does have a normal copyright though. Unless you want to do something harmful to us, we will always say 'yes' to those who want to copy and redistribute our Linux. > I won't but I've been asked the question, so I'd like to know. Have a nice weekend! James Gray ---------------------------------------------------------------- S.u.S.E. - Home of German-engineered "S.u.S.E. Linux" 458 Santa Clara Avenue Oakland, CA 94610 USA Tel +1.510.835.7873 Fax +1.510.835.7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Our mailing lists are functional! suse-announce-e -> Announcements from S.u.S.E. LLC suse-linux-e -> Discussions about S.u.S.E. Linux suse-adabas -> ADABAS D RDBMS w/ S.u.S.E. Linux (bilingual) To subscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)suse.com with 'subscribe <listname>' in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Win & Netscape pblms
by w5lon＠inetport.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Bodo Bauer wrote: > TEX wrote: > > > > I have the same problem. I have not shut down though. No matter how > > garbled the text, I just type startx and enter and away it goes, but It > > is real ugly. Can someone help? > > Try to use 'runx' instead of 'startx'? This uses svgalib to restore the > registers of the graphic card. It's in the package 'svgalib'. > > Ciao, > BB > > -- > Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 > bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 > <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Bodo, Thanks for answering our messages regarding "trashed fonts". Your remedy, run "runx" instead of "startx" rectifies the trashed fonts and for this, I am great- ful and thank you. I'm sure that you are waiting for the other shoe to drop, or a "but" and here it is: What I would really like to have is a solution to the problem rather than a "Band Aid" repair, or at least a better understanding of how the trashed font problem comes about. Again I am greatful for the advice, just trying to understand the dynamics (ie mechanism). Sincerely TomK -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by mhouston＠mh01.demon.co.uk 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Michael Lankton wrote: > Dist wars have been occuring and will continue to occur as long as there > are multiple dists to choose from. This is human nature, and it > doesn't matter whether it's distributions, window managers or chunky vs. > smooth peanut butter. I have used three distributions, and I have my > opinions. I can tell you why I think brand x sucks and why I use brand > y, but it doesn't really matter. The more people using linux the > better, and frankly having several quality distributions available > benefits us all. > The fact that there are at least 3 main and several other spin-off Linux distributions is very healthy. 1. It encourages friendley competition to make your next distribution that bit better than the other guys. This leapfrogging has made the usability of Linux for non Unix gurus improve out of all recognition in the past 3 years. 2. It shows people that Linux is different in that the development model does encourage genuine choice.. I think it is great that Linux has two great (and affordable) Office Suites, not to mention the big choice of databases and the mountain of other stuff. What a contrast to the Windows world were everything is distorted towards MS Office. Yes there are shelves full of other products for Windows, but that will come for Linux. The fact that by some measures we are more numerous than Mac users now should not be lost on the big commercial software vendors forever. I am happy that there is a choice of distributions and want it to continue. That is why I sell both Caldera OpenLinux and Suse, they are both great products but each has different strengths so you would be poorer if you had to make an arbitrary choice between them. -- mhouston(a)mh01.demon.co.uk Linux/Unix Consultant A Storm is coming.... If I had any Microsoft Stock And its name is Linux! I would sell it now.... <A HREF="http://www.deluxe-tech.co.uk"><A HREF="http://www.deluxe-tech.co.uk</A">http://www.deluxe-tech.co.uk</A</A>> Moble: 07970 850961 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Legal?
by kar＠webline.dk 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Is it legal to make copies of the CD's in the S.u.S.E. distribution? I won't but I've been asked the question, so I'd like to know. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 11:40:31AM -0500, William J. Sandman wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote: > > I have just accessed that direction. It works. Slow, but it works. > > > > denis miller wrote: > > > I also can't get anywhere with it! > > > It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I > > > would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I > > > consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > > > > I gues it's just me, but I'd take into account the LOAD that > sunsite.unc.edu endures *BEFORE* I harsh their sysadm/webmasters for lack > of professionalism. Also I'd follow the advice of the sunsite adm's and > > USE A MIRROR!!!! Sunsite has been having some harddrive problems the past couple of days? weeks? I tried to get into the Linux directory and got just an empty dir. Talk about the sudden rush of fear that swarmed over me. Then after two or three times of back page. . . Linux. . . back page. . . I saw a text file that said something like they were having problems, Doh! -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by mailinfo＠cgicon.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Michael Lankton wrote: > > Dist wars have been occuring and will continue to occur as long as > there are multiple dists to choose from. This is human nature, and > it doesn't matter whether it's distributions, window managers or > chunky vs. smooth peanut butter. I have used three distributions, and > I have my opinions. I can tell you why I think brand x sucks and why > I use brand y, but it doesn't really matter. The more people using > linux the better, and frankly having several quality distributions > available benefits us all. > > > Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy > > wars like the old operating systems holy wars. > > I like your opinions - - - AGREE -- Ludwig Richter CGI consult <A HREF="http://www.cgicon.com/"><A HREF="http://www.cgicon.com/</A">http://www.cgicon.com/</A</A>> Lu(a)cgicon.com With Acknowledge: richter(a)cgicon.com _________________________________________________________ Sent with Netscape Communicator 4.04 on Caldera OpenLinux -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE based on? (slackware?BSD.init?SVR4?) ??
by hettar＠teleport.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

What is SuSE based on? Someone said Slackware? SVR4 (System V(5) revision 4)? (more powerful, more complex) (debian) BSD.init (slackware) Any info on this? -- Steven Udell Wayfarers hettar(a)teleport.com for truth love sudell(a)teleport.com and courage <A HREF="http://www.teleport.com/~hettar"><A HREF="http://www.teleport.com/~hettar</A">http://www.teleport.com/~hettar</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by sandman＠aye.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Donnie Barnes wrote: > > > > > Linux Users Groups. They said support for non-Intel platforms is as much as > > > dead. Not enough of a market to make it worth the development expense. I > > I was the one who spoke at that users group. I did *not* say that. I did say > that there weren't any really interesting things left to port *to* (basically > that right now we had no plans to do official PPC or m68k ports). I never said > we'd be dropping Alpha or SPARC support. We have no plans to do that. If we > did I'd be feeling really bad about that $1500 I just spent so that one of the > glibc developers could have his own SPARC to play with. > > > Well I dont use redhat anyway, and my need for a Alpha version makes my > > opinion more strong due to their latest statements. I was going to use > > redhat linux on a alpha based system, however they are starting to tread > > very thin ice with me...their commercial interests outweigh their > > versatility, its time to can redhat and find a more flexible distributor. > > Please don't go making decisions like that based on third hand information, > at least. Contact us directly if you have questions of this nature. > > > > also found it odd that in discussing the upcoming versions and install/config > > > features they kept saying "Windows 98 is going to...." Appears the commercial > > > world blues are hitting Linux well at least Red Hat. > > > > With the sucky operational ability of redhat, suse and slackware tend to > > get my vote depending on the task at hand...I know they dont do alpha > > either but at least they have not taken a stand against the possibility of > > it > > How can you make a claim like this? We currently have the *only* Alpha > distribution. We had the first Alpha distribution. We have the only official > SPARC distribution. We had the *first* SPARC distribution. How in the world > could you possibly brand us like that based on third hand information? > > Some folks like to brand us as "too commercial" or what have you. The > simple fact is that our products are driven by the developers. We don't > have folks in marketing telling us what we can and can't do. They have > input, but it's the *hackers* in this company that build things like the > SPARC distribution. We never decided to do it because we thought it would > make us tons of money. Boy would *that* have been stupid. Same goes for > the Alpha... > > > --Donnie > > Donnie, Thanks for setting the record straight. best, -- W.J. Sandman III Systems Programmer/WebMaster PriceWeber Marketing Communications sandman(a)aye.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by rkeeley＠dibbs.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Yeah, I appreciate that someone is reading or filtering out all the spam. It is a lot of work, but sure is nice!! Luis A. Costabile wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, TEX wrote: > > > > > What would it take to get a SuSE newsgroup up? I havn't got a > > clue.. There seems to be enough traffic. Thanks > > > > Why have a newsgroup? just more chance of spam. > > -- > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 > <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> > To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. > -- > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- 73's Roy KC4IMC rkeeley(a)dibbs.net rkeeley(a)acan.net kc4imc(a)maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org Snail Mail = 10675 Salt Aire Rd, E., Theodore, AL 36582, USA APS #158954 - ARA #4750 - C&LS #162 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installation onto multiple drives
by zentara＠mindspring.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Otis Lamar wrote: > > I have tried almost what you said, but when I try to install all packages > consisting of about 3.x GB, it says there isn't enough room on the / mount > partition. It is trying to install everything on one hard drive. I want to > distribute among three physical drives. > > /dev/hda1 / 1.6GB > /dev/hdb1 /usr 1.6GB > /dev/hdc1 /tmp 1.6GB > > What am I doing wrong? > Hi, you know in the setup process where you specify which partion should be / ? Did you also specify which partitions should be /usr and /tmp? If not, it will try to put everything in /. Also if you've been playing around and re-installing a couple of times, make sure you format your / partition to erase the leftovers from the previous installation attempts. I've seen problems where one installation attempt will not over-write files from a previous install. So the available space is less than you think. There probably is an option to overwrite existing files but I hav'nt seen it. It is easier to just format again. I might be wrong with this, but that is the way my system acts. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Down and Up again
by zentara＠mindspring.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Michael Perry wrote: > > I had a rather ugly time the last few days and I really still do not > know what to attribute it to. I initially lost a number of programs > which had been working quite well such as ical, tkman, etc. These just > disappeared completely in the course of one day. I did not run yast or >> > I am still kind of looking at what happened and how it happened. Linux > is my only operating system at home. I also lost a bunch of recent > changes to a database application but luckily I back that up nightly. > Close thing since I demo'ed it after this stuff happened and I was able > to recoup my losses. > > So, has anyone ever experienced this sort of thing? I have a pretty > good backup strategy (I thought). Not good enough by a damn site > though, it appears. I have wondered a few times if the system were > hacked or semi-destroyed... > I'm sure there is an innocent explanation to it, but....... Could it be that someone is getting onto your system with a floppy, and deleting stuff? You have to keep your machine locked up, and your floppy must be locked when you are not around. Also make sure your lilo is password protected. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > > zentara wrote: > > > >> <SNIP> > >> Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? > <SNIP> > > Uh, I've got a question here - what is the env. variable MOZILLA_HOME > for?? > I downloaded Netscape Gold vs 3.04-1 from the Netscape site when it > first went free. unbundled the tarball into /usr/local/lib/netscape, > moved the binary to /usr/bin, set a symlink from /usr/local/netscape to > /usr/local/lib/netscape - and everything has worked fine since. > -- > Hi, Yeah, I have installed it without setting the variable, and it's worked; until I started playing with RealAudio and other helper apps. It's to tell other programs and netscape itself, where to look for the libraries it needs to run. The reason it runs OK for you, is that in the absence of the MOZILLA_HOME variable, /opt/netscape is used as default. Then it looks at a few other locations, probably /usr/local/lib/netscape. Also since you put netscape.exe in /usr/bin, it is in your path and can be found. You might have trouble launching "helper applications" such as the RealAudio player and Shockwave stuff if you don't have the MOZILLA_HOME environment variable set. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by sandman＠aye.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Santiago Rodriguez wrote: > > I have just accessed that direction. It works. Slow, but it works. > > denis miller wrote: > > > I also can't get anywhere with it! > > It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I > > would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I > > consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > > I gues it's just me, but I'd take into account the LOAD that sunsite.unc.edu endures *BEFORE* I harsh their sysadm/webmasters for lack of professionalism. Also I'd follow the advice of the sunsite adm's and USE A MIRROR!!!! > > Denis Miller > > > > John Totten wrote: > > > > > <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> > > > > > > Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > > > > > > John Totten > > > Sitka Alaska -- W.J. Sandman III Systems Programmer/WebMaster PriceWeber Marketing Communications sandman(a)aye.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Down and Up again
by sandman＠aye.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Michael Perry wrote: > > I had a rather ugly time the last few days and I really still do not > know what to attribute it to. I initially lost a number of programs > which had been working quite well such as ical, tkman, etc. These just > disappeared completely in the course of one day. I did not run yast or > change any configuration options. I then started noticing that things > like libs were missing, symlinks were gone, path statements seemed > wierd. > > My system was nothing more than garbage and I got a number of kernel > panics. I tried the rescue disks and could not get things back to any > semblence of reality. To make matters worse, I had to use NT :). > > I am still kind of looking at what happened and how it happened. Linux > is my only operating system at home. I also lost a bunch of recent > changes to a database application but luckily I back that up nightly. > Close thing since I demo'ed it after this stuff happened and I was able > to recoup my losses. > > So, has anyone ever experienced this sort of thing? I have a pretty > good backup strategy (I thought). Not good enough by a damn site > though, it appears. If your machine in any way is connected to a network I'd start here --> I have wondered a few times if the system were hacked or semi-destroyed... <-- > -- > Michael Perry > mperry(a)basin.com > -- W.J. Sandman III Systems Programmer/WebMaster PriceWeber Marketing Communications sandman(a)aye.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by sandman＠aye.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, TEX wrote: > What would it take to get a SuSE newsgroup up? I havn't got a > clue.. There seems to be enough traffic. Thanks The answer it someone with a machine they'll but the group on and admin. the thing. Well Bodo? Any extra boxes laying around in Furth or Oakland?? If not we in Louisville might *JUST* be able to find some space if we can get the SuSE blessing... > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. Yes!!! You have been saved!!!1 <snip> -- W.J. Sandman III Systems Programmer/WebMaster PriceWeber Marketing Communications sandman(a)aye.net -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS write SLOW
by slk＠grace.acm.rpi.edu 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

--AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On %M %N, Anatoli Iouditski wrote >=20 > Simon Karpen wrote: > >=20 > ... > > > > Mount it with the options rsize=3D8192 wsize=3D8192. That > > should significantly help performance. > >=20 >=20 > Thanks for this remark. It works indeed (8x speed up for long files). > There are two strange things: in the NFS-HOWTO it is marked that > the default setting is rsize=3D4096, wsize=3D8192. I suppose, though, > that it really was smth like rsize=3D1024, wsize=3D1024. This looks like > a really strange choice for INTEL machines. For 2.0 kernels, I believe the default is actually 1024,1024.=20 I don't know why the choice was made. It may have changed already in the 2.1.x development series. =20 > And, finally, even with good rsize and wsize linux NFS mount on > Solaris/Ultrix > is 10-20 times lower than DEC/SUN mount. Is there any patch or whatever > which > could help the problem? Which direction are you talking about? Mounting a Linux box's fs on solaris/ultrix, or mounting solaris/ultrix on a linux box? If the former, Linux nfsd has been totally rewritten (and integreated into the kernel, and made multithreaded at the kernel level) in 2.1, and will be in the 2.2 stable release. If its still client speed, the client has also been sped up a lot (things like write coalescing, caching, etc).=20 You may want to try adding the mount options (either direction): proto=3Dudp,nfsvers=3D2 (if on solaris/ultrix client to linux server, substitute the appropriate options for mounting the fs that force nfs version 2, and udp protocol) Beyond that, I can't say much besides wait for 2.2, or try a 2.1 kernel. --=20 Simon Karpen karpes(a)rpi.edu slk(a)acm.rpi.edu #include <std_disclaimer.h> I don't speak for RPI in any way. Get my PGP key from: <A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc"><A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A">http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A</A>> "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Ben Franklin --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQCVAwUBNRvDhGM3IvLfFy0lAQEV2gQAhgdobMGZnd2qsl79l6Jz739CHfEdqb5w qD7a2C1cULrGHpVJWVRFRhmTWAbOTOIYHdx/h3A6tscmpBvH6dio0iWzEQxi3RIH 1Q9RF4ygxbGXs62thO+vbEZaSRtEO3aY05lT1cl92Zk0qKLsZjiPRP2ljj935WFP GP8Aca5dn7M= =9Zhu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 gecko(a)freecar.com wrote: > > > On 25-Mar-98 Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > > > > >Ok, now I'm convinced there my problems at least have something to do with > >'man' . On one of my systems I did a man sendmail, about 15 minutes > >later the system got sluggish, I had top running already and at the top of > >the list was 'man sendmail' and my free space (swap) was gradually being > >eaten up. I did a kill -9 <pid> and the problem went away. > > > > I don't have an answer... but it might have something to do with the fact that > man uncompresses the man pages on the fly... I am curious... did you keep > the man page up until the "kill" command or had you closed it? > > As for preventing it.. hmm...maybe use the "new info" document system ?? :) Nope, I didn't keep the man page up, I don't know what controls this, but after a 'man something' man lingers around, probably for performance reasons, so if someone does another man for the same thing, it's already "cached". How do I disable this "feature" ? Ya I'd used info but not everything is moved to info, but I kind of prefer the old 'man' but ya, if that causes problems , got to switch. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, TEX wrote: > > What would it take to get a SuSE newsgroup up? I havn't got a > clue.. There seems to be enough traffic. Thanks > Why have a newsgroup? just more chance of spam. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by mikedav＠ibm.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Where did you get pppsetup? Mike Davis Tony Paulic wrote: > I tried following the readmes and howtos to setup ppp with no luck. It > wasn't until I downloaded a program called pppsetup that I was able to > do it. Also, my provider runs the service on a NT server using CHAP > protocol. I think this was my problem all along. pppsetup configured > this beautifully and had me running in minutes. > > <<Tony>> > > >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:20:17 -0500 > >From: Michael Galloway <mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov> > >To: SuSE Mail Exploder <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > >Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp > >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > > > >good day all ... > > > >i'm making some progess getting my modem and ppp up and running. > >using, xisp, i can make the modem dial and negotiate with my > >isp server. however, when xisp brings up the terminal window, > >after a few seconds the i get a 'No Carrier' error. i'm sure i'm > >missing something simple. i did compile a new kernel with ppp support > >(dmesg reports PPP version 2.2.0 and PPP line discipline registered) > >so at least i've made some progress. > > > >any help would be apprciated. > > > >-- > >-- michael > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Enlightenment and WindowMaker.
by misc.word.corp＠pobox.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Matt, Thanks for the wm.xinitrc script. :) The stable version of WM compiled and installed like a charm, and it's way cool, by far the most aesthetically pleasing software to hit my Linux system (along with Enlightenment). To tide me over, I wrote a quick script based on your "cp .xinitrc_wm .xinitrc . . . " suggestion to move back and forth between WM and the S.u.S.E. window managers. Speedwise, I'm not getting the same results as you are. WM is somewhat slower than KDE on my box, especially when scrolling Web pages and the like. Why I have no idea -- I wonder if my graphics card (and its X server) are involved. I also checked out the "themes" link, and hope to have a few up and running soon. Hope your network problems aren't too serious. -- Glenn -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] glibc2
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

What about S.u.S.E. and glibc2 ? On another mailing-list, someone's getting on my nervs with "redhat this", "redhat that"... ;-) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS write SLOW
by anatoli.iouditski＠inrialpes.fr 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Simon Karpen wrote: > ... > > Mount it with the options rsize=8192 wsize=8192. That > should significantly help performance. > Thanks for this remark. It works indeed (8x speed up for long files). There are two strange things: in the NFS-HOWTO it is marked that the default setting is rsize=4096, wsize=8192. I suppose, though, that it really was smth like rsize=1024, wsize=1024. This looks like a really strange choice for INTEL machines. And, finally, even with good rsize and wsize linux NFS mount on Solaris/Ultrix is 10-20 times lower than DEC/SUN mount. Is there any patch or whatever which could help the problem? Thanks, Anatoli -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ext2
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Does anyone know where I can find a good documentation about the ext2 fs ? It doesn't have to be too precise, but I can't find any ! (no, no, the ext2fs howto only explains how to (try to) retrieve deleted files) Thanx, people ! Pascal -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Well, it's a choice... YaST offers the possibility to configure most of the system through one single file (/etc/rc.config), which you can edit manually or through YaST itself... It's more complicated for YaST to deal with manual customizations, because: how should it react ? Should YaST consider it like a manual customization or like an error, like a misconfiguration ? And the day you want YaST to correct something you changed yourself but didn't work out ? Yes, maybe with parameters to the SuSEconfig script (that's the script that "applies" all the settings you make in /etc/rc.config in the effective configuration files: /etc/resolv.conf, ... and it is automatically launched by YaST after you change some parameters)... might be a clue for the S.u.S.E. developpers... Anyway, in some cases, SuSEconfig doesn't apply the changes if it sees that you changed the file "by hand", but saves the file it should have written as ... e.g.: /etc/resolv.conf.SuSEconfig P.S.: why you people always reboot your machines ?? The only case in which you have to reboot is when you wan't to change the kernel you're using... Use "init" !! e.g.: shutdown all network daemons and all network interfaces, and them fire'm up again (for example, if you changed your IP address) : root# init 1; init 2 (do not enter "root#" ;-) it's a prompt) This takes about 5-10 seconds... Pascal < yep, I'm the beer guy ;-) > -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Harris <d.harris(a)netcom.co.uk> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: jeudi 26 mars 1998 17:16 Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying! > >Dear SuSE'ers, >This is more of a gripe that needs a solution, When configuring my modem >settings for a ppp connection rather than having to boot up YaST to set >the com port for my modem I decided to change the symbolic link that >goes between /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS? ...When I then re-booted my >machine I found that the config files had changed it back again! ;-( >I then had to go into YaST and change it in there to keep this setting >permanent. >Why has the SuSE distribution been developed this way...Why don't they >let the system boot up without these horrible way of changing bits and >pieces? > >Please could someone give me some enlightenment on this subject...And if >there is a way to fix this annoying problem could someone give me some >advise on rectifiing this... > >Dan. >Java Applets UK ><A HREF="http://java.applets.co.uk"><A HREF="http://java.applets.co.uk</A">http://java.applets.co.uk</A</A>> > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] unsubscribe
by hboeken＠lucent.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] printer troubles
by peter.wastl＠tks.fh-sbg.ac.at 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

I will try my best ! thanks for all ! peter > >yep, forget about windoze and its very specific drivers... >Linux does it all (and sometimes even better ;-)) with more "general" device >drivers. >Why ? because Linux is being programmed a lot better than loozedowz95 > >Pascal > >-----Original Message----- >From: Leon McClatchey <ldmccla(a)ibm.net> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> >Date: jeudi 26 mars 1998 06:19 >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] printer troubles > > >> >>Peter Wastl wrote: >> >>> Hi ! >>> >>> I use a HP Deskjet 870Cxi but I cannot find an appropriate driver for it >! >>> >>> Does anyone know what I should do ? >>> >>> bye >>> peter >>> >>> -- >>> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >>> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> >> look in your printer docs for what it emulates, then use that driver in >>linux:-) >> >>cya l8r >>Leon McClatchey >>leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com >> >> >> >>-- >>To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >>this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by evan＠telly.org 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Donnie Barnes wrote: >>> The Red Hat folks came out to Internet World in Los Angeles and visited assorted >>> Linux Users Groups. They said support for non-Intel platforms is as much as >>> dead. Not enough of a market to make it worth the development expense. I > I was the one who spoke at that users group. I did *not* say that. I did say > that there weren't any really interesting things left to port *to* What about the 286? At least it would be, um, well... interesting ;-). > (basically that right now we had no plans to do official PPC or m68k > ports). I never said we'd be dropping Alpha or SPARC support. Since when did it become Red Hat's job to produce different ports? Do Debian or Caldera or Slackware feel the need to do that? It seems hard enough these days worrying about *one* architecture to support. There is no question these days that future of the Alpha chip is uncertain. It's possible that Compaq could pump money and marketing into it like Digital never did -- and just as possible that it could dump Alpha. You can't believe the statements from the suits these days, everything is up for grabs. The problem with uncertainty is that it keeps people away -- not many will take a chance on an architecture that might be orphaned within a year. Red Hat took a gamble by putting resources into commercial Alpha and SPARC distros, without any commercial app support (can you even buy ApplixWare for Alpha or SPARC Linux?) and far less independent hardware support than the Intel platform. It's unfair to expect Red Hat alone to solve all these problems. But I can't see enough of a market to convince Caldera or Slackware to go there too. > We have no plans to do that. If we did I'd be feeling really bad about > that $1500 I just spent so that one of the glibc developers could have > his own SPARC to play with. There's nothing wrong with commercial distributors from funding R&D for the community -- it's a nice way to give back. It may be too much, though, to lean on Red Hat to make a Linux port to a different architecture viable without a wide community behind it. >> Well I dont use redhat anyway, and my need for a Alpha version makes my >> opinion more strong due to their latest statements. I was going to use >> redhat linux on a alpha based system, however they are starting to tread >> very thin ice with me...their commercial interests outweigh their >> versatility, its time to can redhat and find a more flexible distributor. > Please don't go making decisions like that based on third hand information, > at least. Contact us directly if you have questions of this nature. Some people will use any excuse if they're looking for a reason to bash. Heck knows, I've succumbed to that myself, maybe ;-). In any case, if/when this person 'cans' Red Hat and looks for another commercial distributor of Alpha Linux, the pickings will be slim indeed. What are his choices? >> With the sucky operational ability of redhat, suse and slackware tend to >> get my vote depending on the task at hand...I know they dont do alpha >> either but at least they have not taken a stand against the possibility of >> it > How can you make a claim like this? It's almost impossible to deal rationally with folks who use deliberately ambiguous (and thus unchallengable) complaints such as "sucky operational ability". Just take heart in the fact that he's not convincing anyone alse with this kind of "reasoning". > We currently have the *only* Alpha distribution. We had the first Alpha > distribution. We have the only official SPARC distribution. We had the > *first* SPARC distribution. How in the world could you possibly brand > us like that based on third hand information? Personally, I don't even know if there's enough of a market to keep *one* commercial distro viable for these other CPUs. One thing that I've come to believe is that most Linux vendors are not making money hand over fist, and may never really be able to. At $50-60 per shot, even at high volume there's a lot of overhead. Developers, even those working cheap because they love it, still need to eat. And given all the projects/contributions that distros such as Red Hat and Caldera have funded, I can't believe there's a lot of cash left if/when it's time to declare a dividend. It's likely that the VARs, consultants, apps vendors and administrators will make far more money from Caldera and Red Hat products than Caldera and Red Hat ever will... The 'commercial is bad' attitude is not going to go away. It's a symptom of working with freeware, that there will be those who believe that everything should be free. That may be remnants of the FSF/Debian philosophical bent, or it may be just greed; it's best just to leave it alone. If someone's that mad at commercial folk for doing what many of us think is necessary, just let 'em go. > Some folks like to brand us as "too commercial" or what have you. The > simple fact is that our products are driven by the developers. We don't > have folks in marketing telling us what we can and can't do. Well, that can't be totally accurate either. At a certain point, someone with budgetary control decides what will and what won't get funded internally. Can you really say that no such decisions get made based on whether Red Hat can (at least) recoup what it spends on a project? If Red Hat funds too many projects that cost more than they earn, there won't be a Red Hat. Maybe it's not the marketers, may be it's the developers who are making decisions on what will be popular (as opposed to just what's most fun or challenging to do). > They have input, but it's the *hackers* in this company that build > things like the SPARC distribution. We never decided to do it because > we thought it would make us tons of money. Boy would *that* have been > stupid. Same goes for the Alpha... It's one thing for a project not to make tons of money; but you at least want to have the thing earn back its development/maintenance/support costs. As someone in another forum has said, there's only so long you can sell dollar bills for 75 cents.... Being at least a tad concerned about being able to survive as a business (let alone grow), is no sin. - Evan -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by slk＠grace.acm.rpi.edu 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

--XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On %M %N, Bodo Bauer wrote >=20 > We also decided not to start from scratch, but to use Florian > LaRoche's Jurix distribution as a startpoint for developing the S.u.S.E. > distribution. Florian is now an employee of S.u.S.E. and continues > his work mainly on the base system of S.u.S.E. Linux. Release 4.2 > was the first Jurix based S.u.S.E. Linux.=20 I remember Jurix... ran it from around August '95 until March '96, at which point, for various reasons, I switched to Redhat 3.0.3. (then to 4.x, then to Debian, and finally to S.u.S.E) (and Jurix was after Slackware) --=20 Simon Karpen karpes(a)rpi.edu slk(a)acm.rpi.edu #include <std_disclaimer.h> I don't speak for RPI in any way. Get my PGP key from: <A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc"><A HREF="http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A">http://www.acm.rpi.edu/~slk/pgpkey.asc</A</A>> "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Ben Franklin --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQCVAwUBNRsfB2M3IvLfFy0lAQGxCwP8CAohewQSnyXwy6Fw7vlp1P3n62zVLsRO syhJYqAz2Ezg6eiY37hB4AyIIuPaqcv2xiGAXccVI+gJjzfac454zPs0GnDYKcpt gQKn5fnvOc+of9hIe+aB8u4PNOoAyfDsSuAZFn2Tu5k/HbXPHv49LOGX2xNUy2w/ qwVlu73Khbs= =202Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by tpaulic＠hotmail.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

I tried following the readmes and howtos to setup ppp with no luck. It wasn't until I downloaded a program called pppsetup that I was able to do it. Also, my provider runs the service on a NT server using CHAP protocol. I think this was my problem all along. pppsetup configured this beautifully and had me running in minutes. <<Tony>> >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:20:17 -0500 >From: Michael Galloway <mgx(a)spruce.lsd.ornl.gov> >To: SuSE Mail Exploder <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> >Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >good day all ... > >i'm making some progess getting my modem and ppp up and running. >using, xisp, i can make the modem dial and negotiate with my >isp server. however, when xisp brings up the terminal window, >after a few seconds the i get a 'No Carrier' error. i'm sure i'm >missing something simple. i did compile a new kernel with ppp support >(dmesg reports PPP version 2.2.0 and PPP line discipline registered) >so at least i've made some progress. > >any help would be apprciated. > >-- >-- michael >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

On 26-Mar-98 Tom Schaefer wrote: >> >> > For example, we should have a multi-mirrored "TUCOWS" apps distribution >> > system equivalent for >> > Linux apps. >> >> I take it you haven't seen TUCOLS yet?? > > Never heard of it ....supply the working URL next time ... Sorry, I presumed. I strongly believe it's <A HREF="http://www.tucols.org"><A HREF="http://www.tucols.org</A">http://www.tucols.org</A</A>> hold on and I'll check... (multitask -- multitask -- multitask) Oops. Make that <A HREF="http://members.xoom.com/tucols/"><A HREF="http://members.xoom.com/tucols/</A">http://members.xoom.com/tucols/</A</A>> I found it by entering TUCOLS on my MetaCrawler form (<A HREF="http://www.aracnet.net/~jonathan/search.html"><A HREF="http://www.aracnet.net/~jonathan/search.html</A">http://www.aracnet.net/~jonathan/search.html</A</A>> -- also check linux.html on the same directory level...) I also swear by M. Hussmann's page on <A HREF="http://www.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de/homepages/m.hussmann/"><A HREF="http://www.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de/homepages/m.hussmann/</A">http://www.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de/homepages/m.hussmann/</A</A>> --- jonathan(a)aracnet.net Lewis's Law of Travel: The first piece of luggage out of the chute doesn't belong to anyone, ever. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Down and Up again
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Both ical and tkman use TCL/TK. A single failure point... I had something like this when I loaded the live file system for a test. When I unloaded it there were dead links all over the place. SuSEConfig hasn't run right ever since (complains about missing or invalid libraries). I used Midnight Commander and it showed up the dead links in red with a (!) bang. I just deleted them, and reinstalled the libraries I needed (TCL/TK) That shouldn't make your kernel panic though... On 26-Mar-98 Michael Perry wrote: > > I had a rather ugly time the last few days and I really still do not > know what to attribute it to. I initially lost a number of programs > which had been working quite well such as ical, tkman, etc. These just > So, has anyone ever experienced this sort of thing? I have a pretty > good backup strategy (I thought). Not good enough by a damn site > though, it appears. I have wondered a few times if the system were > hacked or semi-destroyed... --- jonathan(a)aracnet.net The Arkansas legislature passed a law that states that the Arkansas River can rise no higher than to the Main Street bridge in Little Rock. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Win & Netscape pblms
by tpaulic＠hotmail.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

try typing: reset ee if that clears it up. <<Tony>> >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:43:29 -0600 >From: TEX <mhtexcollins(a)ccms.net> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Win & Netscape pblms >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >I have the same problem. I have not shut down though. No matter how >garbled the text, I just type startx and enter and away it goes, but It >is real ugly. Can someone help? > >Tom Kormanik wrote: > >> I am running SuSE Linux 5.1 on a machine with a 486DX4-100 processor, >> 36 Mb RAM and use a Tseng Labs ET4000W32p_revd accel card. >> X-Win(fvwm2) appears to run normally. Then I run Netscape >> (successfully). >> >> When I shut down X-Win, fonts in the command mode are all trashed and I >> must >> reboot if I am to continue using the machine, even though I am able to >> shutdown >> normally using the three finger salute. >> >> I did add Option "xaa_no_color_exp" under the Device section of >> XF86Config >> and I do use XSuSE_Tseng with the appropriate X link. >> >> Anyone out there with a similar experience that was able to correct it? >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- >LINUX IS THE PATH. > >TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by bb＠suse.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Michael Clark wrote: > In all actuality, several distributions are based on each other. I won't pretend to be an > expert, but as I understand it: > Caldera is based on Redhat > WGS is based on Redhat > SuSE is based on slackware Just to give you a little more info on S.u.S.E. history... SuSE was based on Slackware (it has been a German version of Slakwaere, we translated all the installation tools to German and fixed some bugs, so it was more ore less just a German Slakware version) and we have to thank Patrick for his great work. But at one point we decided to move away from Slackware and that it's time to create our own distribution. We also decided not to start from scratch, but to use Florian LaRoche's Jurix distribution as a startpoint for developing the S.u.S.E. distribution. Florian is now an employee of S.u.S.E. and continues his work mainly on the base system of S.u.S.E. Linux. Release 4.2 was the first Jurix based S.u.S.E. Linux. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Enlightenment and WindowMaker.
by maylward＠sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------32893A10631D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit misc.word.corp wrote: > > Matt, your > copy of the .xinitrc, I'd love to have that . . . > > Glenn Glenn, At last here is my wm.xinitrc. Sorry for the wait, we have had some serious network gremlins, so I have had a lot of email problems. Have fun, Matt -- Matt Aylward Dept of Geography (GIS), UWA email: maylward(a)sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au Linux Lover and GIS Geek ..............LINUX..................... OS for the people by the people --------------32893A10631D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="wm.xinitrc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="wm.xinitrc" #!/bin/bash # # .xsession/.xinitrc # export TERM=xterm # # choose a window manager # if test -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" ; then WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95 fi # # load resources # if [ -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap fi if [ -f ~/.Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap fi if [ -f ~/.Xdefaults ]; then xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults fi if [ -f ~/.Xresources ]; then xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources fi # # start some stuff # # day planer deamon pland -k & # # finaly start the window manager # if [ "$WINDOWMANAGER" = "wmaker" ] ; then rxvt & if [ -f $HOME/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/.workspace_state ]; then sh $HOME/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/.workspace_state & fi exec wmaker ; else exec $WINDOWMANAGER; fi --------------32893A10631D-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by leonmcclatchey＠homemail.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Michael Galloway wrote: > good day all ... > > i'm making some progess getting my modem and ppp up and running. > using, xisp, i can make the modem dial and negotiate with my > isp server. however, when xisp brings up the terminal window, > after a few seconds the i get a 'No Carrier' error. i'm sure i'm > missing something simple. i did compile a new kernel with ppp support > (dmesg reports PPP version 2.2.0 and PPP line discipline registered) > so at least i've made some progress. > > any help would be apprciated. > > -- > -- michael > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e If your using ppp, perhaps chat would be a better script to work with your modem. Using chat I had no problem getting ppp up and running (once I got the other configurations correct). I did find that I had to up the TIMEOUT from 45 to 60. BTW, you can find some sample ppp scripts in the installation at "/usr/doc/inetcfg/ppp" and the easiest thing to do is to adapt them scripts to your system. If you are interested, I can send you the ppp-dial script that I have adapted to my system. It handles two providers and 5 users with no problem, but then it is not the dialer script that does that:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by weekleyj＠fastrans.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > > I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy wars > like the old operating systems holy wars. Geeeeeez ... there's nothing > like dying on the wrong battlefield. > > Each distributor has their own take on what a distribution ought to > be. Each distribution then becomes a self portrait of the company that > produced it. It's their movie. The beauty of it all is that the > freedom from costly licensing has spawned more than one Linux > distributor. Now they compete for quality, not necessarily revenue. > SuSE boasts "German Engineering" ... I buy into that > first. > > Sun, BSD, SCO, and even to a little extent FreeBSD are all coming from > single sources. While the Linux kernel itself comes from a single > source we all understand the massive collaborative input that makes it > work. > > There is nothing to prevent some of you from perfecting your own Linux > distribution and your own installer process. It's when you begin to > consider what it takes to get a system operational with a high level > of automation that you appreciate the efforts of folks at SuSE, > Debian, RedHat, Slackware, WGS, Caldera (and God forbid I forgot any > one else) . > > Consider for a moment what it takes to build a goof-proof installer > and you will quit after the first day. Some will go the distance to > make it work, and we reward them for their efforts by staying with > them and supporting "their art". > > Maybe you don't like RedHat, so what. I used to hate the RPM system > until I understood how it worked, and now I see I am saving myself > time and energy with its automation. It'll mature ... "just hang dude" > ... > > I like the lightweightedness of Slackware. It makes a lean and mean > router os. I like it for building dialup machines that need very few > apps and just networking essentials. I can use SuSE or any of the > others for the same purpose, but for some reason - "I like it" for > what I need - it does the job. > > Redhat makes distributions for other platforms. This is an essential > component of Linux's future success. The world of computing continues > to evolves toward open systems, and this will be part of what advances > technology further. > > So they are advancing the art of cross platform computing - not just > Linux. Linux's cross platform success is due in large part to > companies like RedHat sticking out their neck and making it work. > > The "Titanic" movie project used RedHat Linux on Alpha, so RedHat is > probably due an Academy Award as well. And this from someone who's not > real fond of RedHat. ( I am going to take a look at their 5.x product > once it shakes out a bit. ) > > The movie also put Linux through some very high stress testing. they > found out a lot of what can break Linux, and so Linux itslef gained > from the movie. > > At current prices, most of us who are working with Linux can well > afford to take a look at various distributions. Relish in the fact > that Linux does have more than one company's idea of an os > distribution. > > In fact, because anyone can create their own distribution, companies > with specialized software such as database products, POS systems, etc. > can create their own distributions tailor made to their own needs. > > -tks- > > > > Try doing a totally "fire and forget" operating system upgrade via satellite. That'll REALLY get you to appreciate automation that works :) Bit o' history: My Company (our team, 5 people)just finished upgrading just under 4 THOUSAND hosts from Solaris 2.4 x86 to Solaris 2.6 x86 in less than 2 months (actually 9 months with all the development work). The actual upgrade, work once the software (differing hardware, mostly) was ready took a little over 1 1/2 months. Great automation will really make you appreciate the level of work that went into the distribution. SuSe is about the best that I've seen, they have done wonders with Linux. THe SuSe team has done UNIX right. Thanks, guys. John Weekley -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Donnie Barnes wrote: > [ Lots of good stuff deleted. ] > > First and foremost, you won't find me contributing to any holy wars, > *especially* on another distribution's mailing list (I've been playing > nice on the Caldera lists for quite some time :-). > > > your own installer process. It's when you begin to consider what it takes to get a > > system operational with a high level of automation that you appreciate the efforts of > > folks at SuSE, Debian, RedHat, Slackware, WGS, Caldera (and God forbid I forgot any one > > else) . > > I just wanted to make one comment on the above..."WGS" has never produced > their own distribution. They have always been based on either Slackware or > Red Hat. They may have made a few updates and some slight enhancements, > but they have never produced their own distribution that I know of. Caldera > used to be based on Red Hat but now own LST so they could be considered to > be their own distro now. > > --Donnie > > -- > Donnie Barnes <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/~djb"><A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/~djb</A">http://www.redhat.com/~djb</A</A>> djb(a)redhat.com "Bah." > Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > _Things You'd NEVER Expect A Southerner To Say_ by Vic Henley: > ** These boots hurt my feet. > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e In all actuality, several distributions are based on each other. I won't pretend to be an expert, but as I understand it: Caldera is based on Redhat WGS is based on Redhat SuSE is based on slackware this is NOT a bad thing. you too can use the free parts of your favorite dist and modify and resell it. THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF IT!!!! NOONE can ever take away the free parts. NOONE must reinvent the wheel to create a new application. Just use something close, and save month's of redundant coding. Seems like there had better be several distributions to maintain competition. We all know what happens when competition goes away?!? just my 2cents mc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by mclark＠datsrvr.datsit.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy > wars like the old operating systems holy wars. Geeeeeez ... there's > nothing like dying on the wrong battlefield. > > Each distributor has their own take on what a distribution ought to > be. Each distribution then becomes a self portrait of the company that > produced it. It's their movie. The beauty of it all is that the > freedom from costly licensing has spawned more than one Linux > distributor. Now they compete for quality, not necessarily revenue. > SuSE boasts "German Engineering" ... I buy into that > first. > > Sun, BSD, SCO, and even to a little extent FreeBSD are all coming from > single sources. While the Linux kernel itself comes from a single > source we all understand the massive collaborative input that makes it > work. > > There is nothing to prevent some of you from perfecting your own Linux > distribution and your own installer process. It's when you begin to > consider what it takes to get a system operational with a high level > of automation that you appreciate the efforts of folks at SuSE, > Debian, RedHat, Slackware, WGS, Caldera (and God forbid I forgot any > one else) . > > Consider for a moment what it takes to build a goof-proof installer > and you will quit after the first day. Some will go the distance to > make it work, and we reward them for their efforts by staying with > them and supporting "their art". > > Maybe you don't like RedHat, so what. I used to hate the RPM system > until I understood how it worked, and now I see I am saving myself > time and energy with its automation. It'll mature ... "just hang dude" > ... > > I like the lightweightedness of Slackware. It makes a lean and mean > router os. I like it for building dialup machines that need very few > apps and just networking essentials. I can use SuSE or any of the > others for the same purpose, but for some reason - "I like it" for > what I need - it does the job. > > Redhat makes distributions for other platforms. This is an essential > component of Linux's future success. The world of computing continues > to evolves toward open systems, and this will be part of what advances > technology further. > > So they are advancing the art of cross platform computing - not just > Linux. Linux's cross platform success is due in large part to > companies like RedHat sticking out their neck and making it work. > > The "Titanic" movie project used RedHat Linux on Alpha, so RedHat is > probably due an Academy Award as well. And this from someone who's not > real fond of RedHat. ( I am going to take a look at their 5.x product > once it shakes out a bit. ) > > The movie also put Linux through some very high stress testing. they > found out a lot of what can break Linux, and so Linux itslef gained > from the movie. > > At current prices, most of us who are working with Linux can well > afford to take a look at various distributions. Relish in the fact > that Linux does have more than one company's idea of an os > distribution. > > In fact, because anyone can create their own distribution, companies > with specialized software such as database products, POS systems, etc. > can create their own distributions tailor made to their own needs. > > -tks- > > > > Very Well Said, Indeed. We're all on the same side. mc -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by gecko＠freecar.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

There is a difference between a WAR and just a bunch of different opinions. You don't get people slamming Red-Hat or slamming SuSE the way you get people slamming each other in the OS War, like Microsucks vs Linux (rules). On 27-Mar-98 Michael Lankton wrote: >Dist wars have been occuring and will continue to occur as long as there >are multiple dists to choose from. This is human nature, and it ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by dana＠ntd.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

Tom Schaefer wrote: > I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy > wars like the old operating systems holy wars. Geeeeeez ... there's > nothing like dying on the wrong battlefield. <-snip-> Very well said Tom! Sometimes this list and the newsgroups remind me of my 5 and 7 year old boys fighting over toys. Same shit, just a different platform. (so to speak) I'm greatful to *everyone* involved with the Linux project, and generally most of the other great folks on the newsgroups for taking "their" time to answer all the stupid and meaningful questions in stride. (well, most of the time ;) Dana -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by satan＠nfinity.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

--------------3D8584DD880B49F4EC7F5AF3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dist wars have been occuring and will continue to occur as long as there are multiple dists to choose from. This is human nature, and it doesn't matter whether it's distributions, window managers or chunky vs. smooth peanut butter. I have used three distributions, and I have my opinions. I can tell you why I think brand x sucks and why I use brand y, but it doesn't really matter. The more people using linux the better, and frankly having several quality distributions available benefits us all. Tom Schaefer wrote: > I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy > wars like the old operating systems holy wars. --------------3D8584DD880B49F4EC7F5AF3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Dist wars have been occuring and will continue to occur as long as there are multiple dists to choose from. This is human nature, and it doesn't matter whether it's distributions, window managers or chunky vs. smooth peanut butter. I have used three distributions, and I have my opinions. I can tell you why I think brand x sucks and why I use brand y, but it doesn't really matter. The more people using linux the better, and frankly having several quality distributions available benefits us all. Tom Schaefer wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <TT>I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy wars like the old operating systems holy wars.</TT></BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> --------------3D8584DD880B49F4EC7F5AF3-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Win & Netscape pblms
by bb＠suse.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

TEX wrote: > > I have the same problem. I have not shut down though. No matter how > garbled the text, I just type startx and enter and away it goes, but It > is real ugly. Can someone help? Try to use 'runx' instead of 'startx'? This uses svgalib to restore the registers of the graphic card. It's in the package 'svgalib'. Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Softice like debugger for linux?
by bb＠suse.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

baccus(a)gmx.net wrote: > > Does anybody know a debugger similar to Softice running under Linux? > I've worked with gdb a few times, but it doesn't have the features I > really need and sometimes it isn't able to stop at my breakpoints. Did you try ddd? It's just a frontend to gdb, but it's much nicer to work with than using plain gdb. Or use the gdb-mode in emacs, this gives you kind of an integrated devolopment tool... :) Ciao, BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., LLC fon +1-510-835 7873 bb(a)suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by djb＠redhat.com 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

[ Lots of good stuff deleted. ] First and foremost, you won't find me contributing to any holy wars, *especially* on another distribution's mailing list (I've been playing nice on the Caldera lists for quite some time :-). > your own installer process. It's when you begin to consider what it takes to get a > system operational with a high level of automation that you appreciate the efforts of > folks at SuSE, Debian, RedHat, Slackware, WGS, Caldera (and God forbid I forgot any one > else) . I just wanted to make one comment on the above..."WGS" has never produced their own distribution. They have always been based on either Slackware or Red Hat. They may have made a few updates and some slight enhancements, but they have never produced their own distribution that I know of. Caldera used to be based on Red Hat but now own LST so they could be considered to be their own distro now. --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/~djb"><A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/~djb</A">http://www.redhat.com/~djb</A</A>> djb(a)redhat.com "Bah." Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _Things You'd NEVER Expect A Southerner To Say_ by Vic Henley: ** These boots hurt my feet. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by netd＠fastrans.net 27 Mar '98

27 Mar '98

--------------89BF34C08BEB73F32096BE76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy wars like the old operating systems holy wars. Geeeeeez ... there's nothing like dying on the wrong battlefield. Each distributor has their own take on what a distribution ought to be. Each distribution then becomes a self portrait of the company that produced it. It's their movie. The beauty of it all is that the freedom from costly licensing has spawned more than one Linux distributor. Now they compete for quality, not necessarily revenue. SuSE boasts "German Engineering" ... I buy into that first. Sun, BSD, SCO, and even to a little extent FreeBSD are all coming from single sources. While the Linux kernel itself comes from a single source we all understand the massive collaborative input that makes it work. There is nothing to prevent some of you from perfecting your own Linux distribution and your own installer process. It's when you begin to consider what it takes to get a system operational with a high level of automation that you appreciate the efforts of folks at SuSE, Debian, RedHat, Slackware, WGS, Caldera (and God forbid I forgot any one else) . Consider for a moment what it takes to build a goof-proof installer and you will quit after the first day. Some will go the distance to make it work, and we reward them for their efforts by staying with them and supporting "their art". Maybe you don't like RedHat, so what. I used to hate the RPM system until I understood how it worked, and now I see I am saving myself time and energy with its automation. It'll mature ... "just hang dude" ... I like the lightweightedness of Slackware. It makes a lean and mean router os. I like it for building dialup machines that need very few apps and just networking essentials. I can use SuSE or any of the others for the same purpose, but for some reason - "I like it" for what I need - it does the job. Redhat makes distributions for other platforms. This is an essential component of Linux's future success. The world of computing continues to evolves toward open systems, and this will be part of what advances technology further. So they are advancing the art of cross platform computing - not just Linux. Linux's cross platform success is due in large part to companies like RedHat sticking out their neck and making it work. The "Titanic" movie project used RedHat Linux on Alpha, so RedHat is probably due an Academy Award as well. And this from someone who's not real fond of RedHat. ( I am going to take a look at their 5.x product once it shakes out a bit. ) The movie also put Linux through some very high stress testing. they found out a lot of what can break Linux, and so Linux itslef gained from the movie. At current prices, most of us who are working with Linux can well afford to take a look at various distributions. Relish in the fact that Linux does have more than one company's idea of an os distribution. In fact, because anyone can create their own distribution, companies with specialized software such as database products, POS systems, etc. can create their own distributions tailor made to their own needs. -tks- --------------89BF34C08BEB73F32096BE76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <TT>I really hope the Linux community doesn't start distribution holy wars like the old operating systems holy wars. Geeeeeez ... there's nothing like dying on the wrong battlefield.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>Each distributor has their own take on what a distribution ought to be. Each distribution then becomes a self portrait of the company that produced it. It's their movie. The beauty of it all is that the freedom from costly licensing has spawned more than one Linux distributor. Now they compete for quality, not necessarily revenue. SuSE boasts "German Engineering" ... I buy into that</TT> <TT>first.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>Sun, BSD, SCO, and even to a little extent FreeBSD are all coming from single sources. While the Linux kernel itself comes from a single source we all understand the massive collaborative input that makes it work.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>There is nothing to prevent some of you from perfecting your own Linux distribution and your own installer process. It's when you begin to consider what it takes to get a system operational with a high level of automation that you appreciate the efforts of folks at SuSE, Debian, RedHat, Slackware, WGS, Caldera (and God forbid I forgot any one else) .</TT><TT></TT> <TT>Consider for a moment what it takes to build a goof-proof installer and you will quit after the first day. Some will go the distance to make it work, and we reward them for their efforts by staying with them and supporting "their art".</TT><TT></TT> <TT>Maybe you don't like RedHat, so what. I used to hate the RPM system until I understood how it worked, and now I see I am saving myself time and energy with its automation. It'll mature ... "just hang dude" ...</TT><TT></TT> <TT>I like the lightweightedness of Slackware. It makes a lean and mean router os. I like it for building dialup machines that need very few apps and just networking essentials. I can use SuSE or any of the others for the same purpose, but for some reason - "I like it" for what I need - it does the job.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>Redhat makes distributions for other platforms. This is an essential component of Linux's future success. The world of computing continues to evolves toward open systems, and this will be part of what advances technology further.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>So they are advancing the art of cross platform computing - not just Linux. Linux's cross platform success is due in large part to companies like RedHat sticking out their neck and making it work.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>The "Titanic" movie project used RedHat Linux on Alpha, so RedHat is probably due an Academy Award as well. And this from someone who's not real fond of RedHat. ( I am going to take a look at their 5.x product once it shakes out a bit. )</TT><TT></TT> <TT>The movie also put Linux through some very high stress testing. they found out a lot of what can break Linux, and so Linux itslef gained from the movie.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>At current prices, most of us who are working with Linux can well afford to take a look at various distributions. Relish in the fact that Linux does have more than one company's idea of an os distribution.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>In fact, because anyone can create their own distribution, companies with specialized software such as database products, POS systems, etc. can create their own distributions tailor made to their own needs.</TT><TT></TT> <TT>-tks-</TT> <TT></TT> <TT></TT> <TT></TT> <TT></TT> </HTML> --------------89BF34C08BEB73F32096BE76-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by djb＠redhat.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

[ I was forwarded the message below with most of the attributions gone. Sorry if this is a day late. ] > > The Red Hat folks came out to Internet World in Los Angeles and visited assorted > > Linux Users Groups. They said support for non-Intel platforms is as much as > > dead. Not enough of a market to make it worth the development expense. I I was the one who spoke at that users group. I did *not* say that. I did say that there weren't any really interesting things left to port *to* (basically that right now we had no plans to do official PPC or m68k ports). I never said we'd be dropping Alpha or SPARC support. We have no plans to do that. If we did I'd be feeling really bad about that $1500 I just spent so that one of the glibc developers could have his own SPARC to play with. > Well I dont use redhat anyway, and my need for a Alpha version makes my > opinion more strong due to their latest statements. I was going to use > redhat linux on a alpha based system, however they are starting to tread > very thin ice with me...their commercial interests outweigh their > versatility, its time to can redhat and find a more flexible distributor. Please don't go making decisions like that based on third hand information, at least. Contact us directly if you have questions of this nature. > > also found it odd that in discussing the upcoming versions and install/config > > features they kept saying "Windows 98 is going to...." Appears the commercial > > world blues are hitting Linux well at least Red Hat. > > With the sucky operational ability of redhat, suse and slackware tend to > get my vote depending on the task at hand...I know they dont do alpha > either but at least they have not taken a stand against the possibility of > it How can you make a claim like this? We currently have the *only* Alpha distribution. We had the first Alpha distribution. We have the only official SPARC distribution. We had the *first* SPARC distribution. How in the world could you possibly brand us like that based on third hand information? Some folks like to brand us as "too commercial" or what have you. The simple fact is that our products are driven by the developers. We don't have folks in marketing telling us what we can and can't do. They have input, but it's the *hackers* in this company that build things like the SPARC distribution. We never decided to do it because we thought it would make us tons of money. Boy would *that* have been stupid. Same goes for the Alpha... --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/~djb"><A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/~djb</A">http://www.redhat.com/~djb</A</A>> djb(a)redhat.com "Bah." Challenge Diversity. Ignore People. Live Life. Use Linux. 879. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _Things You'd NEVER Expect A Southerner To Say_ by Vic Henley: ** I'm using new tin on the roof. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Top Margin Too Big
by thehaas＠ravine.binary.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Hello all, I am using S.u.S.E 5.0 and Applixware 4.3 and have a BJ100 printer, in which I use the bj200 print filter. When printing an Applix Words document, the top margin is too big, making the bottom margin too small for a footer (like a page number). I used to use this version of Applixware on RedHat 4.1 and 4.2 and it worked fine. Does anyone have any ideas to change this? - mikeh -- ============================================================================== || Mike Hostetler || || <A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas"><A HREF="http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A">http://www.binary.net/thehaas</A</A>> || || email1: mhostetl(a)cse.unl.edu || || email2: thehaas(a)binary.net || ============================================================================== || `When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just || || stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, || || *for free*".' - Linus Torvalds || ============================================================================== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by tschaefe＠paging.mot.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

jonathan(a)aracnet.net wrote: > On 25-Mar-98 Tom Schaefer wrote: > > > For example, we should have a multi-mirrored "TUCOWS" apps distribution > > system equivalent for > > Linux apps. > > I take it you haven't seen TUCOLS yet?? > Never heard of it ....supply the working URL next time ... Mysteries revealed: -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Threads
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 08:07:07PM -0900, John Totten wrote: > > David, > Your 'Linux Kernel' was posted to the SuSE listserv and I am working > my way through it. Many thanks for all your work, it's been very > valuable and not overly technical. > I have a question. Throughout, you use task, process, light weight > process, clone(), user thread and kernel thread interchangably - often > together in the same sentence. This is probably because the whole > concept of clone() is an amalgum of all these things - but any > discussion of the technical side of Linux often comes down to putting > clone() into familiar terms for others to understand who are more used > to threaded OS and have no concept of clone() > Can you give a thumbnail sketch of this issue - and perhaps make it > clear in your text, that all these functionalities are distinct - and > where Linux fits in the great scheme of multithreaded programming. Is > there even such a thing on Linux or is it automatically non-process, > non-threaded multicloned? Does it matter one whit? > Surely this is a major porting issue because only Linux uses this > method meaning it has to be hacked into the universe of apps that Linux > needs so badly and affects driver development when hardware is an issue. > (If your driver is bringing 96 ports of telephony out of a single PCI > telephony board - it matters hugely to the stability of your system and > the resources necessary whether you are bringing each port out as a > process, a clone or a thread). If I am right the clone() system call was Linus' way of getting light threading or something like this. This is going to change either in 2.2.x or 2.4.x; I think it is in 2.2.x, when this happens linux will be much more POSIX compliant. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] suse 5.1/ppp
by mgx＠spruce.lsd.ornl.gov 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

good day all ... i'm making some progess getting my modem and ppp up and running. using, xisp, i can make the modem dial and negotiate with my isp server. however, when xisp brings up the terminal window, after a few seconds the i get a 'No Carrier' error. i'm sure i'm missing something simple. i did compile a new kernel with ppp support (dmesg reports PPP version 2.2.0 and PPP line discipline registered) so at least i've made some progress. any help would be apprciated. -- -- michael -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 03:32:11PM -0800, Joshua Rodman wrote: > > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 gdoris(a)shaw.wave.ca wrote: > > > > > Microsoft told the company that I work for that they should not consider > > moving even to Office98 (we just trashed several thousand Apples to move to > > Win95). Th ey stated that Office98 is just a cleanup and bug fix for > > Office95 and no significa nt features will be added. > > > > Instead they recommended that the entire company migrate to NT as that is > > where the new development focus will be. As far as I know they never > > suggested that Win98 should be considered. > > This is all mildly interesting, but what does it have to do with > SuSE linux? > > Please. Everyone. Try to stay on topic. Jokes, amusements which are > relevant to linux and suse linux please post. Questions and answers > regarding the OS, please post. > > Please relegate questions preaching the glory of linux with no other > content as well as postulations on microsoft to other places. Know thy enemy well. -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by adavis＠hayson.vmarketing.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

On Thu, Mar 26, 1998 at 01:10:21AM -0500, dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: > > On 24 Mar, J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > > > zentara wrote: > > > >> <SNIP> > >> Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? > <SNIP> > > Uh, I've got a question here - what is the env. variable MOZILLA_HOME > for?? > I downloaded Netscape Gold vs 3.04-1 from the Netscape site when it > first went free. unbundled the tarball into /usr/local/lib/netscape, > moved the binary to /usr/bin, set a symlink from /usr/local/netscape to > /usr/local/lib/netscape - and everything has worked fine since. The MOZILLA_HOME variable is for Communicator 4.xx so that it can find the java and plugins; There is proably more but that is what I know, kind of :) -- Andrew L. Davis Network Operations adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by gecko＠freecar.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

In the rc.config file, there's a line to turn of SuSEconfig program... ENABLE_SUSECONFIG. Try setting that to No... but beware that ALL auto configuration will be turned off. On 26-Mar-98 Daniel Harris wrote: > >Dear SuSE'ers, >This is more of a gripe that needs a solution, When configuring my modem >settings for a ppp connection rather than having to boot up YaST to set >the com port for my modem I decided to change the symbolic link that >goes between /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS? ...When I then re-booted my >machine I found that the config files had changed it back again! ;-( >I then had to go into YaST and change it in there to keep this setting >permanent. >Why has the SuSE distribution been developed this way...Why don't they >let the system boot up without these horrible way of changing bits and >pieces? > >Please could someone give me some enlightenment on this subject...And if >there is a way to fix this annoying problem could someone give me some >advise on rectifiing this... > >Dan. >Java Applets UK ><A HREF="http://java.applets.co.uk"><A HREF="http://java.applets.co.uk</A">http://java.applets.co.uk</A</A>> > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: YaST is being very annoying!
by mantel＠suse.de 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Hi, On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Daniel Harris wrote: > Dear SuSE'ers, > This is more of a gripe that needs a solution, When configuring my modem > settings for a ppp connection rather than having to boot up YaST to set > the com port for my modem I decided to change the symbolic link that > goes between /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS? ...When I then re-booted my > machine I found that the config files had changed it back again! ;-( > I then had to go into YaST and change it in there to keep this setting > permanent. > Why has the SuSE distribution been developed this way...Why don't they > let the system boot up without these horrible way of changing bits and > pieces? > > Please could someone give me some enlightenment on this subject...And if > there is a way to fix this annoying problem could someone give me some > advise on rectifiing this... Just set ENABLE_SUSECONFIG=no in /etc/rc.config > Dan. Hubert -- I'm distrustful of projects that do not have well-defined goals, and well-defined interfaces. They tend to bloat and do "everything" over time. This is what gives us horrors like GNU emacs and Mach. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] no KDE, ftp or telnet
by jkrough＠mindspring.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I am pretty sure that you'll have to go to Spain to get that issue. The major pc publications in the u.s-of-a will never distribute anything that would compete with microstink. Jerome K. Patrick T. Berry wrote: > Please help me find that PCWorld issue, as the world wants to know! > > Anthony F. Wright wrote: > > > Santiago Rodriguez wrote: > > > > > > Hi. > > > I've just installed suse linux (from a CD that came with PCWorld), > > > Any comment? > > > > > > -- > > As a 'newbie' about to install Linux I can't answer your query, but as a > > subscriber to PCWorld, for some time I sure would be interested to know > > which issue contained the CD. > > Tony. > > -- > > ___ _ /\ > > /| | . / / \/\ /\ > > ___/_|_ | /| / / \ \/\/ \^^/\ > > _/ | |/ |/ / \ \/ \/ \ > > ________________ _/ \/ / \ > > ************** The Great/ / \ > > Pacific/ \ > > Northwest \_ > > Home Page: HREF="<A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw"><A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A">http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A</A>>" > > > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installation onto multiple drives
by OLamar＠aris.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I have tried almost what you said, but when I try to install all packages consisting of about 3.x GB, it says there isn't enough room on the / mount partition. It is trying to install everything on one hard drive. I want to distribute among three physical drives. /dev/hda1 / 1.6GB /dev/hdb1 /usr 1.6GB /dev/hdc1 /tmp 1.6GB What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Otis -----Original Message----- From: Leon McClatchey [<A HREF="mailto:ldmccla@ibm.net">mailto:ldmccla@ibm.net</A>] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 9:45 PM To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installation onto multiple drives You failed to specify a mount point for the 3rd harddrive. Probably something like this? Also, if they are separate harddrives, then they should be set up as hda, hdb, hdc....... /dev/hda1 / 1.6GB /dev/hdb1 /usr 1.6GB /dev/hdc1 /var 1.6GB cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Otis Lamar wrote: > How do I install the complete suse 5.1 distribution (3.x GB) onto three 1.6 > GB drives? It asks me for the mount point which I specify as follows: > > /dev/hda1 / 1.6 GB > /dev/hda2 /usr 1.6 GB > /dev/hda3 > > Thanks, > > Otis Lamar > olamar(a)aris.com > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] YaST is being very annoying!
by d.harris＠netcom.co.uk 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Dear SuSE'ers, This is more of a gripe that needs a solution, When configuring my modem settings for a ppp connection rather than having to boot up YaST to set the com port for my modem I decided to change the symbolic link that goes between /dev/modem and /dev/ttyS? ...When I then re-booted my machine I found that the config files had changed it back again! ;-( I then had to go into YaST and change it in there to keep this setting permanent. Why has the SuSE distribution been developed this way...Why don't they let the system boot up without these horrible way of changing bits and pieces? Please could someone give me some enlightenment on this subject...And if there is a way to fix this annoying problem could someone give me some advise on rectifiing this... Dan. Java Applets UK <A HREF="http://java.applets.co.uk"><A HREF="http://java.applets.co.uk</A">http://java.applets.co.uk</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: System Locks up
by mantel＠suse.de 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Hi, On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: [...] > I heard my hard drive going crazy I started up top and noticed "man" was > at the top of the list , but I couldn't get enough cycles to kill the > process, so I had to reset the machine. Very coincidental you were > running "man" and I had "man" pinned up there. I think "man" itself is not the problem, it just triggers the error. > Anyone??? Hubert, you mentioned a mailing list about kernel development, > is it an open list? What's the list called and how to subscribe? Send an email to majordomo(a)vger.rutgers.edu with a line ubscribe linux-kernel in it's body. But be warned: There is _MUCH_ traffic on this list! > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Fat32 patch
by mantel＠suse.de 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Hi, On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: > It just dawned on me, that my old Caldera Linux 1.1 > distribution had an option in the kernel menuconfig > for fat32 support, along with vfat. > > How come it isn't in SuSe 5.1 ? This patch changes fundamental parts of the kernel. As long as Linus himself does not include this patch into the official kernel, we want to be on the safe side. I do not want to read postings "S.u.S.E.'s patched kernel ate my harddisk" ;-) > Anyone know where to get the kernel patch? Unpack the archive /unsorted/patches/kernel-patches.tgz on CD#1. There you will find the VFAT32 Patch, the NTFS driver and some other useful things that did not yet make their way into the standard kernel. > zentara Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting)
by mantel＠suse.de 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Hi, On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 dedwards(a)technologist.com wrote: [...] > hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS > hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS > > Is this bad?? - what can I do to get rid of these messages?? AFAIK this is just a workaround for some old harddrives. Do you have ancient Seagate drives? I think it's just informational and should not cause any problems. > Dave E. Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Compiling kernels for other machines
by mantel＠suse.de 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Hi, On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, zentara wrote: [...] > Well there seems to be some confusion here. > I would compile the kernel on a pentium, then transfer it to > the 486. Upon booting it on the 486, I get either > an "automatic reboot"; which indicates a complete > boot failure. Or, I get it to uncompress and start, > then say "unable to open display". This isn't an X display. > It can't open the vga, and just halts. > > It is an old dell motherboard with onboard vga. > I could install Suse with it's standard EIDE > kernel, but when I try to replace the standard one > with my own, compiled on a pentium, I get the > error. Maybe you optimized the kernel for Pentium? > In the manual it mentions the importance of the > /system.map to the /vmlinuz kernel. The System.map isn't THAT important any longer. It is of some use for the klogd, but if it is missing you will not encounter any problems. > I havn't seen the system.map file before, and I'm > wondering if there is a mismatch. On page 203 > of the manual, it describes the importance of > matching the system.map to the kernel. > If I compile on a pentium, won't it generate a system > map which is incompatible with an old isa motherboard? No, but if you set the CPU type to Pentium, it might generate code a 486 cannot execute. > It is only an intellectual exercise for me, but those > are the most fun problems to solve. :-) > > zentara Hubert -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] no KDE, ftp or telnet
by pberry2＠bellsouth.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Please help me find that PCWorld issue, as the world wants to know! Anthony F. Wright wrote: > Santiago Rodriguez wrote: > > > > Hi. > > I've just installed suse linux (from a CD that came with PCWorld), > > Any comment? > > > > -- > As a 'newbie' about to install Linux I can't answer your query, but as a > subscriber to PCWorld, for some time I sure would be interested to know > which issue contained the CD. > Tony. > -- > ___ _ /\ > /| | . / / \/\ /\ > ___/_|_ | /| / / \ \/\/ \^^/\ > _/ | |/ |/ / \ \/ \/ \ > ________________ _/ \/ / \ > ************** The Great/ / \ > Pacific/ \ > Northwest \_ > Home Page: HREF="<A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw"><A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A">http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A</A>>" > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by jonathan＠aracnet.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

On 25-Mar-98 Tom Schaefer wrote: > For example, we should have a multi-mirrored "TUCOWS" apps distribution > system equivalent for > Linux apps. I take it you haven't seen TUCOLS yet?? --- jonathan(a)aracnet.net Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, "The moon is more useful than the sun." "Why?", he was asked. "Because at night we need the light more." -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

try this one: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/mirrors/sunsite/docs/LDP/linux-kernel/tlk-0.8-1.html"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/mirrors/sunsite/docs/LDP/linux-kernel/tlk-0.8-1.html</A">ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/mirrors/sunsite/docs/LDP/linux-kernel/tlk-0.8-1.html</A</A>> a very good (and very, very fast) mirror (also a SuSE mirror, by the way ;-) ) -----Original Message----- From: gecko(a)freecar.com <gecko(a)freecar.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: jeudi 26 mars 1998 03:10 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel > >came right up for me... no pause at all... > >On 26-Mar-98 denis miller wrote: >> >>I also can't get anywhere with it! >>It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I >>would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I >>consider it a bit of proffessionalism. >> >>Denis Miller >> >>John Totten wrote: >> >>> <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> >>> >>> Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? >>> >>> John Totten >>> Sitka Alaska >>> -- >>> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >>> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> >> >> >>-- >>To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >>this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >---------------------------------- ><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> >-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >Version: 3.1 >GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) >O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ > DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ >------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >---------------------------------- >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by peter＠datadok.no 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

>I have just accessed that direction. It works. Slow, but it works. Same here, from Norway. Which of course begs the question, will the document also be available on the various sunsite archives? - peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen peter(a)datadok.no <A HREF="http://www.datadok.no"><A HREF="http://www.datadok.no</A">http://www.datadok.no</A</A>> Datadokumentasjon A/S, Bredsgaarden 2, N-5003 Bergen, Norway Tel: +47 55 32 08 02 Fax: +47 55 32 14 95 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by srr03＠tid.es 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I have just accessed that direction. It works. Slow, but it works. denis miller wrote: > I also can't get anywhere with it! > It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I > would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I > consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > > Denis Miller > > John Totten wrote: > > > <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> > > > > Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > > > > John Totten > > Sitka Alaska > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Santi -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] printer troubles
by pbleser＠prov-liege.be 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

yep, forget about windoze and its very specific drivers... Linux does it all (and sometimes even better ;-)) with more "general" device drivers. Why ? because Linux is being programmed a lot better than loozedowz95 Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Leon McClatchey <ldmccla(a)ibm.net> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: jeudi 26 mars 1998 06:19 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] printer troubles > >Peter Wastl wrote: > >> Hi ! >> >> I use a HP Deskjet 870Cxi but I cannot find an appropriate driver for it ! >> >> Does anyone know what I should do ? >> >> bye >> peter >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > look in your printer docs for what it emulates, then use that driver in >linux:-) > >cya l8r >Leon McClatchey >leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by srr03＠tid.es 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Your problem sounds like the libraries were not where they should, or the LD_LIBRARY_PATH were not set correctly or something like that. The README, of course, was the one that comes with the netscape installation. Good luck. J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > > Did you read and follow these instructions in the README ? > > Hmmm........ "follow instructions in the README?" > > I did a "locate README" and got over 470 README's. > > You want to narrow that down a little bit? > > (btw- I have the updated XKeysymDB file in /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB) > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Santi -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] no KDE, ftp or telnet
by srr03＠tid.es 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Hi. Is the SuSE distribution (I suppose reduced, 'cause the original is 4 CD's large). It comes with Qt and, int theory, the KDE, though I haven't found it. Anyway it is not very large and I downloaded. It looks really really great. When I saw it the first time (yesterday, actually) I thought that microsoft should begin to be scared. It's really intuitive, and the interface is as good (or better eve) as the W95 or NT's one. I'm talking about Kde. Well. The distribution is quite good, except for the thing I talked about in my last message. Bye. Anthony F. Wright wrote: > Santiago Rodriguez wrote: > > > > Hi. > > I've just installed suse linux (from a CD that came with PCWorld), > > Any comment? > > > > -- > As a 'newbie' about to install Linux I can't answer your query, but as a > subscriber to PCWorld, for some time I sure would be interested to know > which issue contained the CD. > Tony. > -- > ___ _ /\ > /| | . / / \/\ /\ > ___/_|_ | /| / / \ \/\/ \^^/\ > _/ | |/ |/ / \ \/ \/ \ > ________________ _/ \/ / \ > ************** The Great/ / \ > Pacific/ \ > Northwest \_ > Home Page: HREF="<A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw"><A HREF="http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A">http://www.navicom.com/~tonyw</A</A>>" > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- Santi -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Softice like debugger for linux?
by baccus＠gmx.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Does anybody know a debugger similar to Softice running under Linux? I've worked with gdb a few times, but it doesn't have the features I really need and sometimes it isn't able to stop at my breakpoints. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by dedwards＠technologist.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

On 25 Mar, James Gray wrote: > > Hi! > > We are working on our Alpha port as we speak. So, you won't be hearing any > statements against other platforms from S.u.S.E. ;) > > Cheers! > > James > <SNIP> Just another affirmation as to why SuSE is the choice for me!! -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Compiled Kernel questions (2nd posting)
by dedwards＠technologist.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

On 25 Mar, Frolick, Joseph A wrote: > > I had the same messages under slackware, and they were pretty much harmless. > I never experienced problems with my system even though I had that message > pop up during boot. I THINK (I could be wrong) that it had something to do > with my settings for LBA for my hard disks, etc. > <SNIP> >> Question though, in the boot messages, I get: >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS >> hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS >> >> Is this bad?? - what can I do to get rid of these messages?? <SNIP> Thanks for the reply - I'll look see if I've got settings still for a slave CDrom drive. -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound Driver Question??
by dedwards＠technologist.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I am using the Crystal CS4232 driver that came with the SuSE 5.0 distrib. I don't seem to have any mixer functionality. Also /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound documentation hints at there probably being an updated Crystal driver out there by now. Can anyone point me in the correct direction to pick up an updated driver?? Thanks in Advance. -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by dedwards＠technologist.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

On 24 Mar, J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > zentara wrote: > >> <SNIP> >> Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? <SNIP> Uh, I've got a question here - what is the env. variable MOZILLA_HOME for?? I downloaded Netscape Gold vs 3.04-1 from the Netscape site when it first went free. unbundled the tarball into /usr/local/lib/netscape, moved the binary to /usr/bin, set a symlink from /usr/local/netscape to /usr/local/lib/netscape - and everything has worked fine since. -- Dave E. -Linux 2.0.30 -SuSE 5.0-- Linux - the choice of a GNU Generation--- No more Blue screen of Death - and no regrets - Goodbye Microsoft! ----------------------Cyrix 586/100-32meg-2g----------------------- SHAMELESS Plug:-- dedwards(a)technologist.com 23yr of MF exp. avail. for home-based outsourcing contracts. ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux Threads
by john＠totten.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

David, Your 'Linux Kernel' was posted to the SuSE listserv and I am working my way through it. Many thanks for all your work, it's been very valuable and not overly technical. I have a question. Throughout, you use task, process, light weight process, clone(), user thread and kernel thread interchangably - often together in the same sentence. This is probably because the whole concept of clone() is an amalgum of all these things - but any discussion of the technical side of Linux often comes down to putting clone() into familiar terms for others to understand who are more used to threaded OS and have no concept of clone() Can you give a thumbnail sketch of this issue - and perhaps make it clear in your text, that all these functionalities are distinct - and where Linux fits in the great scheme of multithreaded programming. Is there even such a thing on Linux or is it automatically non-process, non-threaded multicloned? Does it matter one whit? Surely this is a major porting issue because only Linux uses this method meaning it has to be hacked into the universe of apps that Linux needs so badly and affects driver development when hardware is an issue. (If your driver is bringing 96 ports of telephony out of a single PCI telephony board - it matters hugely to the stability of your system and the resources necessary whether you are bringing each port out as a process, a clone or a thread). Thanks! John Totten MD Sitka Alaska -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Tony Paulic wrote: > Try running xvidtune, but be careful with the app. I understand it can > be nasty to the system if played with. Just have a quick peek at the > values. It shows refresh rate, etc... > > <<Tony>> > > >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:58:37 -0500 > >From: "Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> > >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation? > >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > > > > >paulic wrote: > > > >> Andrew L. Davis wrote: > >> > >> > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Michael, > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. > Unfortunately I > >> > > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have > tried the > >> > > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When > the pointer > >> > > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop > looks like > >> > > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves > netscape the > >> > > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this > means that > >> > > I am changing color maps. > >> > > >> > Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 > and that > >> > will solve your problems. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations > >> > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink > International > >> > -- > >> > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com > with > >> > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >> > >> Try: > >> > >> exec X :0 -auth $HOME/.Xauthority -bpp 16 > >> > >> in your $HOME/.xserverrc file (or -bpp 32 if your card can handle it) > >> > >> <<Tony>> > >> > >> -- > >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > Tony, > > > >Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why > it was set > >to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. > :-) I > >attempted to understan my XF86Config. I read the associated man page > as well. I > >still can figure out what it all means. > > > >How do I determine things like my refresh rate and my resolution? I > think I am at > >1600X1280 X 16 bpp and 74 hz. I just don't know. What ever it is, my > new > >ViewSonic, G810 beats the S#$0ut of my the ViewSonic 4e that I have > been using > >for the last four years! > > > >Thanks much. > > > >Steve > > > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Quick question. When I install Xfree86, I had it set up for SVGA in 16bps. I thought I set it up where there was a choice whether to go into 1078 mode or 640 mode. But when I tried to set it up so my wife could go in 640 mode and me in 1078 mode, it still goes into the higher resolution. Is there a way to change the resolution depending on the user's personal configuration? Thanx Loads Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Down and Up again
by mperry＠basin.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I had a rather ugly time the last few days and I really still do not know what to attribute it to. I initially lost a number of programs which had been working quite well such as ical, tkman, etc. These just disappeared completely in the course of one day. I did not run yast or change any configuration options. I then started noticing that things like libs were missing, symlinks were gone, path statements seemed wierd. My system was nothing more than garbage and I got a number of kernel panics. I tried the rescue disks and could not get things back to any semblence of reality. To make matters worse, I had to use NT :). I am still kind of looking at what happened and how it happened. Linux is my only operating system at home. I also lost a bunch of recent changes to a database application but luckily I back that up nightly. Close thing since I demo'ed it after this stuff happened and I was able to recoup my losses. So, has anyone ever experienced this sort of thing? I have a pretty good backup strategy (I thought). Not good enough by a damn site though, it appears. I have wondered a few times if the system were hacked or semi-destroyed... -- Michael Perry mperry(a)basin.com ----------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] printer troubles
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

Peter Wastl wrote: > Hi ! > > I use a HP Deskjet 870Cxi but I cannot find an appropriate driver for it ! > > Does anyone know what I should do ? > > bye > peter > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e look in your printer docs for what it emulates, then use that driver in linux:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > zentara wrote: > > > J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > > > > > Something is wrong with my Netscape installation. Whenever > > > I boot Netscape I get over 100 entries in the XMessage box > > > that say: > > > > > > /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol > > > 'PR_ExitMonitor' > > > > > > And on and on, with over 100 of the "can't resolve" entries. > > > > > > Also whenever I access a web site that has sound, it will > > > terminate the browser. > > > > > > Any suggestions? (I've reinstalled it twice now.) > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > Did you set the MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape environment variable? > > > > In your .bashrc put "export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape"; > > that solves alot of problems. > > > > zentara > > Which .bashrc ? I found five of them when I did a $ locate .bashrc > > Also do I put the quotation marks around the > > export MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape > > and the semi colon at the end? > > I found other "export entries in .bashrc that didn't have the " " and > the ; > > Just wondering, and trying to do it right. > > Thanks again, > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e look for the .bashrc in your home directory, that is the one that you will want to add it to, also, nope, you don't need to put the quotes around it or the semi colon at the end (unless you put more than one command on the same line:-) cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Installation onto multiple drives
by ldmccla＠ibm.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

You failed to specify a mount point for the 3rd harddrive. Probably something like this? Also, if they are separate harddrives, then they should be set up as hda, hdb, hdc....... /dev/hda1 / 1.6GB /dev/hdb1 /usr 1.6GB /dev/hdc1 /var 1.6GB cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey(a)homemail.com Otis Lamar wrote: > How do I install the complete suse 5.1 distribution (3.x GB) onto three 1.6 > GB drives? It asks me for the mount point which I specify as follows: > > /dev/hda1 / 1.6 GB > /dev/hda2 /usr 1.6 GB > /dev/hda3 > > Thanks, > > Otis Lamar > olamar(a)aris.com > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Win & Netscape pblms
by frozen＠airmail.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I've never had that problem when shutting down X11, but I have had the garbled text before. Typing "reset" always fixed the garbled text for me. On 25 Mar, TEX wrote: > > I have the same problem. I have not shut down though. No matter how > garbled the text, I just type startx and enter and away it goes, but It > is real ugly. Can someone help? > > Tom Kormanik wrote: > >> I am running SuSE Linux 5.1 on a machine with a 486DX4-100 processor, >> 36 Mb RAM and use a Tseng Labs ET4000W32p_revd accel card. >> X-Win(fvwm2) appears to run normally. Then I run Netscape >> (successfully). >> >> When I shut down X-Win, fonts in the command mode are all trashed and I >> must >> reboot if I am to continue using the machine, even though I am able to >> shutdown >> normally using the three finger salute. >> >> I did add Option "xaa_no_color_exp" under the Device section of >> XF86Config >> and I do use XSuSE_Tseng with the appropriate X link. >> >> Anyone out there with a similar experience that was able to correct it? >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > LINUX IS THE PATH. > > TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> > > __ > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ > / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / > /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ > ...for IQ's higher than 95... > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] NG
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

What would it take to get a SuSE newsgroup up? I havn't got a clue.. There seems to be enough traffic. Thanks -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Win & Netscape pblms
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I have the same problem. I have not shut down though. No matter how garbled the text, I just type startx and enter and away it goes, but It is real ugly. Can someone help? Tom Kormanik wrote: > I am running SuSE Linux 5.1 on a machine with a 486DX4-100 processor, > 36 Mb RAM and use a Tseng Labs ET4000W32p_revd accel card. > X-Win(fvwm2) appears to run normally. Then I run Netscape > (successfully). > > When I shut down X-Win, fonts in the command mode are all trashed and I > must > reboot if I am to continue using the machine, even though I am able to > shutdown > normally using the three finger salute. > > I did add Option "xaa_no_color_exp" under the Device section of > XF86Config > and I do use XSuSE_Tseng with the appropriate X link. > > Anyone out there with a similar experience that was able to correct it? > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by hongfeng＠public.wh.hb.cn 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

--------------013602C9CE04E0EC8D568CB6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have got it this morning. I think it's better to zip it for ftp, or have someone print it as a book! Rgds, Hong Feng Mike Davis ?????? > It worked for me > > Mike D > > gecko(a)freecar.com wrote: > > > came right up for me... no pause at all... > > > > On 26-Mar-98 denis miller wrote: > > > > > >I also can't get anywhere with it! > > >It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I > > >would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I > > >consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > > > > > >Denis Miller > > > > > >John Totten wrote: > > > > > >> <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> > > >> > > >> Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > > >> > > >> John Totten > > >> Sitka Alaska > > >> -- > > >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > ---------------------------------- > > <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > Version: 3.1 > > GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) > > O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ > > DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > ---------------------------------- > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --------------013602C9CE04E0EC8D568CB6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <TT>I have got it this morning. I think it's better to zip it for ftp, or</TT> <TT>have someone print it as a book!</TT><TT></TT> <TT>Rgds,</TT> <TT>Hong Feng</TT> Mike Davis Ð´µ½£º <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>It worked for me Mike D gecko(a)freecar.com wrote: > came right up for me... no pause at all... > > On 26-Mar-98 denis miller wrote: > > > >I also can't get anywhere with it! > >It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I > >would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I > >consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > > > >Denis Miller > > > >John Totten wrote: > > > >> http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A> > >> > >> Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > >> > >> John Totten > >> Sitka Alaska > >> -- > >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > ---------------------------------- > http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A> > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) > O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ > DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > ---------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> --------------013602C9CE04E0EC8D568CB6-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Good Script Book
by hongfeng＠public.wh.hb.cn 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

--------------2408A205F3B6AEA7FBD0DC6E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit O'Reilly has an wonderful title: "Scripting Language: Automating the Web", for details, browse <A HREF="http://www.oreilly.com"><A HREF="http://www.oreilly.com</A">http://www.oreilly.com</A</A>> Best, Hong Feng Scott McNeil ?????? > >>Can someone suggest a good book on writing script... > > Jerome, > > Check out Portable Shell Programming by Bruce Blinn, PTR Press > For about US $32 you get a disk too... > > Scott > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e --------------2408A205F3B6AEA7FBD0DC6E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <TT>O'Reilly has an wonderful title: "Scripting Language: Automating</TT> <TT>the Web", for details, browse http://www.oreilly.com">http://www.oreilly.com</A></TT><TT></TT> <TT>Best,</TT> <TT>Hong Feng</TT> Scott McNeil Ð´µ½£º <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>>>Can someone suggest a good book on writing script... Jerome, Check out Portable Shell Programming by Bruce Blinn, PTR Press For about US $32 you get a disk too... Scott -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> --------------2408A205F3B6AEA7FBD0DC6E-- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by mhtexcollins＠ccms.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I JUST WENT RIGHT THERE.. denis miller wrote: > I also can't get anywhere with it! > It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I > would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I > consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > > Denis Miller > > John Totten wrote: > > > <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> > > > > Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > > > > John Totten > > Sitka Alaska > > -- > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- LINUX IS THE PATH. TEX <A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm"><A HREF="http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A">http://www.ccms.net/~mhtexcollins/78704.htm</A</A>> __ / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ ...for IQ's higher than 95... -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by mikedav＠ibm.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

It worked for me Mike D gecko(a)freecar.com wrote: > came right up for me... no pause at all... > > On 26-Mar-98 denis miller wrote: > > > >I also can't get anywhere with it! > >It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I > >would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I > >consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > > > >Denis Miller > > > >John Totten wrote: > > > >> <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> > >> > >> Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > >> > >> John Totten > >> Sitka Alaska > >> -- > >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > > > >-- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > ---------------------------------- > <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) > O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ > DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > ---------------------------------- > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Good Script Book
by mcneil＠pacbell.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

>>Can someone suggest a good book on writing script... Jerome, Check out Portable Shell Programming by Bruce Blinn, PTR Press For about US $32 you get a disk too... Scott -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by philsf＠altavista.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

At 20:28 25/03/98 -0500, you wrote: I just visited the mentioned site w/o problems... :/ > >I also can't get anywhere with it! >It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I >would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I >consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > >Denis Miller > >John Totten wrote: > >> <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> >> >> Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? >> >> John Totten >> Sitka Alaska >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by gecko＠freecar.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

came right up for me... no pause at all... On 26-Mar-98 denis miller wrote: > >I also can't get anywhere with it! >It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I >would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I >consider it a bit of proffessionalism. > >Denis Miller > >John Totten wrote: > >> <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> >> >> Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? >> >> John Totten >> Sitka Alaska >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by scurran＠aracnet.net 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

I also can't get anywhere with it! It may be a common problem of non-working URLs on the internet but I would think anyone who is running a site should make sure it works. I consider it a bit of proffessionalism. Denis Miller John Totten wrote: > <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> > > Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > > John Totten > Sitka Alaska > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by jdkc＠woptura.com 26 Mar '98

26 Mar '98

W.D.McKinney wrote: > Did you read and follow these instructions in the README ? Hmmm........ "follow instructions in the README?" I did a "locate README" and got over 470 README's. You want to narrow that down a little bit? (btw- I have the updated XKeysymDB file in /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB) -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by tpaulic＠hotmail.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Try running xvidtune, but be careful with the app. I understand it can be nasty to the system if played with. Just have a quick peek at the values. It shows refresh rate, etc... <<Tony>> >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:58:37 -0500 >From: "Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation? >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >paulic wrote: > >> Andrew L. Davis wrote: >> >> > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: >> > > >> > > Michael, >> > > >> > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. Unfortunately I >> > > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have tried the >> > > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When the pointer >> > > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop looks like >> > > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves netscape the >> > > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this means that >> > > I am changing color maps. >> > >> > Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 and that >> > will solve your problems. >> > >> > -- >> > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations >> > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International >> > -- >> > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> >> Try: >> >> exec X :0 -auth $HOME/.Xauthority -bpp 16 >> >> in your $HOME/.xserverrc file (or -bpp 32 if your card can handle it) >> >> <<Tony>> >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Tony, > >Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why it was set >to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. :-) I >attempted to understan my XF86Config. I read the associated man page as well. I >still can figure out what it all means. > >How do I determine things like my refresh rate and my resolution? I think I am at >1600X1280 X 16 bpp and 74 hz. I just don't know. What ever it is, my new >ViewSonic, G810 beats the S#$0ut of my the ViewSonic 4e that I have been using >for the last four years! > >Thanks much. > >Steve > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Sound
by jpcowh01＠dragon.slug.louisville.edu 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

If my memory servers me correctly... 5.0b2 5.0b3 I believe there was another a while ago... Jonathan -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01(a)slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A</A>> This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by jrodman＠tbw.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 gdoris(a)shaw.wave.ca wrote: > > Microsoft told the company that I work for that they should not consider > moving even to Office98 (we just trashed several thousand Apples to move to > Win95). Th ey stated that Office98 is just a cleanup and bug fix for > Office95 and no significa nt features will be added. > > Instead they recommended that the entire company migrate to NT as that is > where the new development focus will be. As far as I know they never > suggested that Win98 should be considered. This is all mildly interesting, but what does it have to do with SuSE linux? Please. Everyone. Try to stay on topic. Jokes, amusements which are relevant to linux and suse linux please post. Questions and answers regarding the OS, please post. Please relegate questions preaching the glory of linux with no other content as well as postulations on microsoft to other places. Note: I do not work for SuSE. Do not blame them for being anal retentive, for that is me. However, do not post drek to this list for it makes it less useful for all. -josh -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation?
by tpaulic＠hotmail.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Try running xvidtune, but be careful with the app. I understand it can be nasty to the system if played with. Just have a quick peek at the values. It shows refresh rate, etc... <<Tony>> >Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 00:58:37 -0500 >From: "Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> >To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Colormap Allocation? >Reply-To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > >paulic wrote: > >> Andrew L. Davis wrote: >> >> > On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Steven T. Hatton wrote: >> > > >> > > Michael, >> > > >> > > Thanks for the input. I would love to try your suggestion. Unfortunately I >> > > don't know how to change the color depth in netscape. I have tried the >> > > -install option. This leads to an interesting phenomenon. When the pointer >> > > in inside of netscape, netscape looks great, but the backdrop looks like >> > > something Jerry Gracie would like. When the pointer leaves netscape the >> > > background looks great, but netscape is screwed up. I think this means that >> > > I am changing color maps. >> > >> > Actually it sounds like you are using 8bpp color depth go up to 16 and that >> > will solve your problems. >> > >> > -- >> > Andrew L. Davis Network Operations >> > adavis(a)vprlnk.net ViperLink International >> > -- >> > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e >> >> Try: >> >> exec X :0 -auth $HOME/.Xauthority -bpp 16 >> >> in your $HOME/.xserverrc file (or -bpp 32 if your card can handle it) >> >> <<Tony>> >> >> -- >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > Tony, > >Good call! I used XF86Setup and cahanged to 16 bps. I am not sure why it was set >to 8 bps. Netscape seems to be playing nicely with its neighbors now. :-) I >attempted to understan my XF86Config. I read the associated man page as well. I >still can figure out what it all means. > >How do I determine things like my refresh rate and my resolution? I think I am at >1600X1280 X 16 bpp and 74 hz. I just don't know. What ever it is, my new >ViewSonic, G810 beats the S#$0ut of my the ViewSonic 4e that I have been using >for the last four years! > >Thanks much. > >Steve > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page
by netsomni＠fastrans.net 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

T, You mean I'm not the only one running Intel 386's on my network? :-) Is recompiling going to be a big task that will make people want to use the remote compiler? Pentium prices are dropping just as fast as the I386 price did. Will the same questions used for local kernel config be asked remotely? It seems useless if we have Pentium box at home. If we have a 486, then maybe it would be worth it. How much work will this take to put in place compared to the speed of waiting for technology? Netsomnia > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:49:34 -0500 > From: Tom Schaefer <tschaefe(a)paging.mot.com> > Organization: ... > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] The Linux Kernel Compiler Web Page > Reply-to: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com > > Brian wrote: > > > What about libs and modules? > > A subset of the site would include the module creation, libs and related kernel issues. > > In fact, once the modules are done for a certain kernel rev, I believe you're done, and > all you'd probably need to do is provide some archive files with modules for each rev. > Meaning you shouldn't have to keep recompiling modules unless they are patched / > up-rev'd etc. > > There's lots you can do, provide docs, tutorials, etc. Just need a fast machine or > machines and a reasonably fast site, since you'll be doing a lot of outbound email, ftp, > and http. > > -tks- > > > > > -- > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: No Linux on Merced
by gdoris＠shaw.wave.ca 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Microsoft told the company that I work for that they should not consider moving even to Office98 (we just trashed several thousand Apples to move to Win95). Th ey stated that Office98 is just a cleanup and bug fix for Office95 and no significa nt features will be added. Instead they recommended that the entire company migrate to NT as that is where the new development focus will be. As far as I know they never suggested that Win98 should be considered. Gerry On 25-Mar-98 wade wrote: >>On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Steve B. wrote: >> features they kept saying "Windows 98 is going to...." Appears the commercia l >windows 98 is not much differnet then 95 in the beta stages, win 98 is not >going to do much of anything it promissed, per the microsoft way > >-- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e ---------------------------------- E-Mail: gdoris(a)shaw.wave.ca Date: 03/25/98 Time: 18:02:15 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Doc: The Linux Kernel
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

John Totten wrote: > > <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/LDP/tlk/tlk.html</A</A>> > > Am I the only one that can't get this URL to connect? > > John Totten > Sitka Alaska > I just downloaded it this morning. Sunsite is really a busy place, try again. Maybe you can't connect from Sitka, ha ha. I worked in the cannery there a few years, when was the last time you saw the sun? zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Problems.
by zentara＠mindspring.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

J.D.K. Chipps wrote: > > zentara wrote: > > I might add that Netscape was working fine before without these entries, > but I added them anyway, just in case. > > Then I downloaded Communicator 4.04 again, just in case, and reinstalled > it. > > Same results, I get over 100 entries on XMessage that say: > > /opt/netscape/netscape: can't resolve symbol 'name' > > Aalso, when I access a webpage that has sound, it shuts down Netscape and > I have to reboot it. > > Otherwise, everything works fine, that I've tried. I'd really like to get > the 100+ "symbols resolved however if anyone has any more ideas. > I can only guess. I have seen similar problems because I did not have all the various libraries installed. zentara -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by gecko＠freecar.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

On 25-Mar-98 Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > >Ok, now I'm convinced there my problems at least have something to do with >'man' . On one of my systems I did a man sendmail, about 15 minutes >later the system got sluggish, I had top running already and at the top of >the list was 'man sendmail' and my free space (swap) was gradually being >eaten up. I did a kill -9 <pid> and the problem went away. > I don't have an answer... but it might have something to do with the fact that man uncompresses the man pages on the fly... I am curious... did you keep the man page up until the "kill" command or had you closed it? As for preventing it.. hmm...maybe use the "new info" document system ?? :) ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html"><A HREF="http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A">http://homepages.skylink.net/~gecko/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Kernel-Patches
by tjungblu＠abo.rhein-zeitung.de 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Luis A. Costabile wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Michael Zimmermann wrote: > > > > > Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > > I'm pushing my one semester of German here, but I think he said: > > > > Congratulations. Really impressing for just one semester of German, which must be a quite difficult to learn language. > > > > thanks to all the wonderful translators. > > -- > Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 > <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> > To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. i am terrible sorry, i was the author, it was my mistake, the message should originally go to suse-linux and not to suse-linux-e orry Thorsten -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] System Locks up
by luis＠lac.resonet.com 25 Mar '98

25 Mar '98

Here I go replying to my own posts again, nice thing about that is if I flame myself, I have no one else to blame :) On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Luis A. Costabile wrote: > > > > On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote: > > > > > last time this happened I was scrolling down through a man page in > > > xemacs. I had gotten a head to the system. i.e., clicked faster than > > > it scrolled. > > > > Steve, I posted a question about something like this a little while ago, > > actually about a week ago. It happened again this morning and as soon as > > I heard my hard drive going crazy I started up top and noticed "man" was > > at the top of the list , but I couldn't get enough cycles to kill the > > process, so I had to reset the machine. Very coincidental you were > > running "man" and I had "man" pinned up there. > Ok, now I'm convinced there my problems at least have something to do with 'man' . On one of my systems I did a man sendmail, about 15 minutes later the system got sluggish, I had top running already and at the top of the list was 'man sendmail' and my free space (swap) was gradually being eaten up. I did a kill -9 <pid> and the problem went away. How the heck do I prevent this? If I don't catch the problem I end up having to reboot. This is not microsoft!. btw, i'm the only user on this box. -- Lou A. Costabile Voice and Fax: [613] 781-7061 <A HREF="mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com">mailto:luis@lac.resonet.com</A> To get Receipt Notification include %rec% anywhere in the Subject field. -- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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