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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing in LInux
by brian.jones3＠virgin.net 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

No, no problems like that at all. I've just checked the GS printer compatability page & it recommends cdj850 for the 855 and 870Cxi. The page is: <A HREF="http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/printer.html"><A HREF="http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/printer.html</A">http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/printer.html</A</A>> It looks like cdj550 used to be the one to use but I guess it has been superceded. I don't know if you are perhaps using an old version of Ghostscript (recommended version numbers are given on the above page). If cdj550 works then fine but you should be aware that there is a comment about using the ljet4 driver for monochrome printing for some unexplained reason. Brian. lsayre wrote: > > I tried the cdj850 driver (using YaST) for my HP 855 Cxi, and it prints > only a small print in one corner of the paper. Changing apsfilter to 1n > from 2n made it print on 1/4 of the paper vs. 1/8 with the default 2n. > I changed to the cdj550 driver, and it works! Did you experience > anything like this with your 890C? > > Lawrence Sayre <lsayre(a)stratos.net> > > Brian Jones wrote: > > > > I use an HP Deskjet 890C which I have configured under YaST by claiming > > it was an 850C (I chose cdj850) & I get full colour - the same number > > may work for you. I am guessing that hpdj is just a standard monochrome > > deskjet driver. > > > > If you look in the printing HOW-TO you will find a link to the > > Ghostscript homepage, you can find out there which printers are > > supported and what you should configure them as with apsfilter. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Laurent Francoise wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > my printer is a HP 870 Cxi. I used YaST to configure it (with the ASP filter > > > 'hpdj' , which seems to be the best for this printer _ I think ... ) > > > It works fine, but in monochrome, whereas I switched all the 'color' options > > > I could find. > > > > > > Moreover, when I edit the configuration file in /etc, the color option is > > > present. > > > > > > Is someone using SuSE 5.2 and a HP 870 Cxi could help me ? > > > > > > Laurent FRANCOISE > > > ( FRANCE ) > > > > > > - > > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > -- > > > > Brian Jones > > - > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e -- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] MPEG player for Linux
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

Anyone tried Microsoft Netshow for Linux? Yeah, I know, quit cursing. The Mpegtv program is a pain to get to work. But, Netshow for some reason is a file that I can't figure out how to uncompress or execute. On their web site it shows it as an *.gz file but when you download it, it doesn't have an extension. Any clues. I really don't care which one I run as long as I have sound. The Mpegtv one wants lib files and just seems very hard to install. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] MPEG Video player for X
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

Does anyone have/know of a good MPEG viewer with sound for X? I've been searching for one all day and the only ones I've found suck. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE and AKLUG
by deem＠wdm.com 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

We are seeing some happy users moving to SuSE in our AKLUG meeting today. Loaded up 5.2 on a Compaq laptop (Ugh:-), and tweaked another SuSE box. This was good for others to see the benifits. FYI. -Dee deem(a)wdm-no-spam.com <A HREF="http://www.wdm.com"><A HREF="http://www.wdm.com</A">http://www.wdm.com</A</A>> <A HREF="http://www,aklug.org"><A HREF="http://www,aklug.org</A">http://www,aklug.org</A</A>> <A HREF="http://www.alaska.net"><A HREF="http://www.alaska.net</A">http://www.alaska.net</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing
by cjtan＠acm.org 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

A few days ago, I decided to pick up an old 386DX-33 with 4MB RAM (to which I added another 4MB), 200MB HDD, 10Mbps ethernet card, and a old HP LaserJet printer (non-PS) for below $100 (Canadian). Today, I set up that machine to act as the print server for my home LAN. Since the printer is a non-PS printer, I had to set up GS to do the job of handling PS files which is the format of almost all the documents I deal with. I'm wondering what's the performance that everyone else is getting using GS. I'm able to make 4 ppm, which is the speed of the printer, and it takes about 1min 30sec to spool a 10-page PS file. It's not a problem for me because I work upstairs, and the printer is located downstairs. (I have to stuff the printer downstairs due to lack of space in where I do all my work.) Also, as most of the documents that I deal with are fairly big, >10 pages, 1.5 minute to spool a file that will take >2.5min to print is too bad. Regards, Kenneth Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Kenneth Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] IP masquerading, routing
by cjtan＠acm.org 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

This is my current configuration at home: a machine (call it 'abox') connected to the Net using cable modem, on eth0. On eth1 (also on abox), is connected to a hub, to which a print server (call it 'pserv') is connect to also. I am now trying to use IP masquerading to allow my print server to be able to reach the outside world. eth0 has the IP 24.64.69.114 and eth1 has the IP 192.168.1.1 . pserv's IP is 192.168.1.2 . I have already compiled the kernel, with firewall, IP masquerading, IP forwading, ICMP masquerading, and IP always defragment compiled. As before, I can ping pserv, and I can print to it from abox. From pserv, I can also ping abox. But I can't ping any machine on the Net from pserv. I am lost as to where to start poking at. This is what my /etc/route.conf looks like: 24.64.69.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 eth0 default 24.64.69.1 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 eth1 The entries for firewall and IP masquerading from /etc/rc.config are as below. I have disabled firewall in /etc/rc.config . Do I need it for IP masquerading? I have also removed all the IP masquerading modules that I don't need, like the IRC stuff. # # Firewall settings - See /usr/doc/packages/firewall # for a detailed description # FW_START="no" FW_LOCALNETS="" FW_FTPSERVER="" FW_WWWSERVER="" FW_SSLSERVER="" FW_SSLPORT="443" FW_MAILSERVER="" FW_DNSSERVER="" FW_NNTPSERVER="" FW_NEWSFEED="" FW_WORLD_DEV="eth0" FW_INT_DEV="eth1" FW_LOG_ACCEPT="no" FW_LOG_DENY="yes" FW_ROUTER="" FW_FRIENDS="no" FW_INOUT="no" FW_SSH="no" FW_TRANSPROXY_OUT="" FW_TRANSPROXY_IN="" FW_REDIRECT="" FW_TCP_LOCKED_PORTS="1:1023" FW_UDP_LOCKED_PORTS="1:1023" # # Masquerading settings - See /usr/doc/packages/firewall # for a detailed description # MSQ_START="yes" MSQ_NETWORKS="192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0" MSQ_DEV="eth1" MSQ_MODULES="ip_masq_ftp" Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Kenneth Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Kenneth Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Hard disk led
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

--Miguel Afonso Oliveira <miguel.oliv(a)mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Aug 1998, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, johnny bitar wrote: > > > >> Same problem here, my hard drive light never turns > >> off. Don't have I don't have this problem in Windows > >> 95. Running a Pentium 2 233, with a 5.1g western > >> digital UDMA hard drive and its an Acer mother board > >> with the LX chip set. Running SuSE 5.2.. > > > >How much memory do you have? Maybe the machine simply is swapping all the 64 megs > >time. Or something in the system is wrong and the syslogd is writing to > >/var/log/messages all the time... > > > >Did you check /var/log/messages and /var/log/warn? > > yes I did....no special messages there...just the usual.... > > > > > >> john bitar > > -o) > > Hubert /\\ > > _\_v > > > >- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

I don't have anything attached to my second IDE port. Thanks problem solved for me anyway... === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---"Donald E. Stidwell" <dstidwe(a)pilot.infi.net> wrote: > > > Apparently, if you have anything that is not a hard drive or CD-ROM attached > to the secondary IDE port, this will happen. I have always had this > "problem" with my ATAPI tape drive attached to the 2nd IDE port. This > "problem" also manifested itself when I had my ATAPI Zip drive attached > there. > > Strangely, though, I moved my ATAPI Zip to my computer at work and attached > it to the secondary port and that computer doesn't have this problem (it's > an HP Vectra VL). So maybe it's something related to the BIOS. > > Anyway, it's just a minor annoyance as it doesn't seem to affect performance > in any way. > > Don > -----Original Message----- > From: RICK CHANDLER <chandlerrick(a)hotmail.com> > To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> > Date: Saturday, 01 August, 1998 01:09 > Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led > > > > > >>Same problem here, my hard drive light never turns > >>off. Don't have I don't have this problem in Windows > >>95. Running a Pentium 2 233, with a 5.1g western > >>digital UDMA hard drive and its an Acer mother board > >>with the LX chip set. Running SuSE 5.2.. > >Just to let ya know that this isn't standard, I don't have this problem. > >I'm running a FIC 2007 MB, K6-233, and a Quantum Fireball HD. > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > >- > >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] kppd automated login?
by suse_list＠hotmail.com 02 Aug '98

02 Aug '98

I am using kppd to connect to the internet. I have it all set up and working perfectly. The only problem I have is when I dial in and after the login scripts finish running and the remote computer starts sending the ppp streams I have to click on the continue button manually to continue. If I don't do this within a certain time the connection drops out. This is a real pain especially when on busy nights I have to redial 100 times or so. I would like to be able to set it dialing and then walk away for a while and then when I come back the connection should be all set up and running. At the moment I have to stay there to be ready to push the continue button. Does anyone know how to fix this in kppd? If it can't be done, can someone reccomend an alternative program that will do it, and is easy to st up? Thanks in advance, Brad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Gnome and WindowMaker
by satan3＠home.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

For those of you running Gnome and WindowMaker, I have made a Gtk Style for WindowMaker that gives it a look consistent with the Gnome environment. I have a shot and the Style posted at: <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/linux.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/linux.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/linux.html</A</A>> -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] kppd automated login?
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

>I am using kppd to connect to the internet. I have it all set up and >working perfectly. The only problem I have is when I dial in and >after the login scripts finish running and the remote computer starts >sending the ppp streams I have to click on the continue button >manually to continue. If I don't do this within a certain time the >connection drops out. This is a real pain especially when on busy >nights I have to redial 100 times or so. I would like to be able to >set it dialing and then walk away for a while and then when I come >back the connection should be all set up and running. At the moment I >have to stay there to be ready to push the continue button. >Does anyone know how to fix this in kppd? If it can't be done, can >someone reccomend an alternative program that will do it, and is easy >to st up? >Thanks in advance, >Brad I use kppd also and have never had any problems. You might take a look at setup and then PPP to see if any of those options might fix you up. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Hard disk led
by mantel＠suse.de 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Hi, On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, johnny bitar wrote: > Same problem here, my hard drive light never turns > off. Don't have I don't have this problem in Windows > 95. Running a Pentium 2 233, with a 5.1g western > digital UDMA hard drive and its an Acer mother board > with the LX chip set. Running SuSE 5.2.. How much memory do you have? Maybe the machine simply is swapping all the time. Or something in the system is wrong and the syslogd is writing to /var/log/messages all the time... Did you check /var/log/messages and /var/log/warn? > john bitar -o) Hubert /\\ _\_v - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] trying to use 2.1.112
by roberto＠cbvcp.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

I tried to use the new dev kernel, and it appeared to compile and install correctly, but when i tried to boot it from lilo, it restarted the comp. I compiled just like when i updated from 2.0.33 to 2.0.35, but this time it didn't work. I would like to use the new kernel, because it has a driver for my sound card. any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Aaron Seelye <A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto"><A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A">http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] BigBrother
by sodah＠qatar.net.qa 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

hi ppl, i 've tried to to run bigbrother (web-based unix systems monitor ), on my linux-box but it doesn't seem to work, did i miss something? 1- when i type ./runbb.sh & at the prompt , i get the msg ..... Starting Big Brother Collectors... bb: CAN'T CONNECT TO bbd bb: CAN'T CONNECT TO bbd bb: CAN'T CONNECT TO bbdgrep: /var/adm/messages: No such file or directory grep: /var/adm/messages: No such file or directory bb: CAN'T CONNECT TO bbd ..... 2-otherwise, when i type bbd at the prompt, i get the msg bbd: BBHOME is not set in the environment! Make sure you're running bbd from runbb.sh! i did already the setting up of BBHOME, pls have a look at the following attachment! --------------- #!/bin/sh # runbb.sh # BIG BROTHER MAIN SCRIPT # Sean MacGuire - The MacLawran Group Inc. # Version 1.06 # Dec 30, 1997 ......... # BBHOME IS THE ROOT DIRECTORY OF BIG BROTHER!!! # YOU MUST SET THE NEXT LINE TO WHERE BB LIVES BBHOME="/usr/local/bb" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ export BBHOME if test "$BBHOME" = "" then echo "BBHOME IS NOT SET IN runbb.sh" echo "Please edit runbb.sh and correct this problem!" exit 1 fi ...... -------------------- what could be wrong? bye -fadi -- Fadi Sodah sodah(a)qatar.net.qa Tel: +974-712447 Doha-Qatar - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Installation Problems....
by ryanak＠flash.net 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Hi, I recently bought S.u.S.E 5.2 It came with a install guide. But I have a problem. The install guide says that something is going to happen, but it dont, or it will say that I can go back to the main menu, but when I do it asks me to do something that the manual dont talk about. Also, I get as far as installing the packages, but about half way through, it stops, due to a i/o error when unzipping a file. The file is usually something different everytime. My HD is not in the best condition, could it be that? Could it be a bad sector or something? Is there an online manual that is updated? Or is their someone who can help me? Email me, for the specifics on my problems. I am using the English version ( duh ). I hope someone can help soon! Thanks! -- |cemann email: <A HREF="mailto:ryanak@flash.net">mailto:ryanak@flash.net</A> Those people who tell you not to take chances, they are all missing out on what life's about, you only live once so take hold of the chance, don't end up like others the same song and dance. ---James Hetfield - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led
by dstidwe＠pilot.infi.net 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Apparently, if you have anything that is not a hard drive or CD-ROM attached to the secondary IDE port, this will happen. I have always had this "problem" with my ATAPI tape drive attached to the 2nd IDE port. This "problem" also manifested itself when I had my ATAPI Zip drive attached there. Strangely, though, I moved my ATAPI Zip to my computer at work and attached it to the secondary port and that computer doesn't have this problem (it's an HP Vectra VL). So maybe it's something related to the BIOS. Anyway, it's just a minor annoyance as it doesn't seem to affect performance in any way. Don -----Original Message----- From: RICK CHANDLER <chandlerrick(a)hotmail.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Saturday, 01 August, 1998 01:09 Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led > >>Same problem here, my hard drive light never turns >>off. Don't have I don't have this problem in Windows >>95. Running a Pentium 2 233, with a 5.1g western >>digital UDMA hard drive and its an Acer mother board >>with the LX chip set. Running SuSE 5.2.. >Just to let ya know that this isn't standard, I don't have this problem. >I'm running a FIC 2007 MB, K6-233, and a Quantum Fireball HD. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led
by ariggins＠home.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

I don't have this problem either, with a pentium 2 400 & maxtor 7gb RICK CHANDLER wrote: > >Same problem here, my hard drive light never turns > >off. Don't have I don't have this problem in Windows > >95. Running a Pentium 2 233, with a 5.1g western > >digital UDMA hard drive and its an Acer mother board > >with the LX chip set. Running SuSE 5.2.. > Just to let ya know that this isn't standard, I don't have this problem. > I'm running a FIC 2007 MB, K6-233, and a Quantum Fireball HD. > / / __ _ _ _ _ __ __ / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / /____/ /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ mail to: ariggins(a)home.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] e-mail question
by kc8chq＠juno.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Has anyone used Mindspring? If so how are they? TIA Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq(a)juno.com Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:52:44 -0400 "Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> writes: > >Robert Farquhar wrote: > >> Greetings! >> I am a Linux newbie and I am planning to change my current operating >system >> to SuSE 5.2. I have an e-mail account with AOL and one with >CompuServe. >> For those of you that use Linux, do any of you use AOL or CompuServe >as a >> provider? I asked both companies if they had interface software for >Linux >> and neither has. Do you use a Windows emulator (Wabi?)? Is there >an >> Internet provider out there that is Linux friendly? If so, do they >have >> nodes throughout the US? I'll need to log in via a 202 area code. >> Thanks in advance for your help! >> Ert >> - >> To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com >with >> this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > >I'm not sure about AOL, the last I used it they required proprietary >software. This may have changed. CompuServe will probably allow you >to >connect, but I'm not sure how. I use EarthLink Sprint. They are >so-so. >Sometimes I get rudely shut off from the network , and sometimes the >performance stinks. I really can't give a bench marked measurement of >quality. The number I dial into is: (202) 478-0571. I'm in Prince >George's >County. (800) 395-8425 ex 5234 will get you to a customer support rep >with >whom I spoke at 22:50. I use kppp to connect. I can probably help >you get >set up. I'm not sure how much help their tech support will be for >Linux. > >HTH, > >Steve > > >-- > >[<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org</A</A>>] S.u.S.E. Linux, www.suse.com > >I Think, >I think I am, >Therefore I am, >I think? - Graeme Edge of the Moody Blues > > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] NFS mounts
by cjtan＠acm.org 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

I am thinking about setting up an environment which I will mount NFS drive from the server. Does anyone know if roughly how much resources will be taken up on the server handling NFS mounts? I am planning on mounting /usr via NFS, the mail spool, and maybe a few more (haven't decided yet). I want to try to keep the NFS server load to a minimum. On the server, there is a NIC that connects to a hub that is dedicated to serve clients. Thanks. Regards, Kenneth Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Kenneth Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] About Italian SuSE 5.3
by lmib＠zuzzurello.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Hi, where I can find more information about this italian version? Is it possible to contact the editor? I'd like to collaborate. Thanks. ciao, Fabio. -- *** MultiDream <A HREF="http://apollo.allnet.it/multidream/index.html"><A HREF="http://apollo.allnet.it/multidream/index.html</A">http://apollo.allnet.it/multidream/index.html</A</A>> *** ambiente in multiutenza by VrmlDreamers <A HREF="http://www.lucia.it/vrml"><A HREF="http://www.lucia.it/vrml</A">http://www.lucia.it/vrml</A</A>> ------------------------------------------- Why don't you take a look here? <A HREF="http://lmib.home.ml.org"><A HREF="http://lmib.home.ml.org</A">http://lmib.home.ml.org</A</A>> -------------------------------------------/:wq - Abt - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] StarOffice4.0
by kc8chq＠juno.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

I belive that was Applixware! :-) Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq(a)juno.com Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] AWE 64
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

>Could you do me a huge favor and e-mail me a copy of your isapnp.conf? Have >already had a hasty go at it, and it didn't work. I want to listen to some >music, not to stay up all night fiddling with this thing! Just get the OSS module. It works great and its very easy to run, install and setup. Kinda like PNP. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

>Same problem here, my hard drive light never turns >off. Don't have I don't have this problem in Windows >95. Running a Pentium 2 233, with a 5.1g western >digital UDMA hard drive and its an Acer mother board >with the LX chip set. Running SuSE 5.2.. Just to let ya know that this isn't standard, I don't have this problem. I'm running a FIC 2007 MB, K6-233, and a Quantum Fireball HD. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] e-mail question
by 112063.2652＠compuserve.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Greetings! I am a Linux newbie and I am planning to change my current operating system to SuSE 5.2. I have an e-mail account with AOL and one with CompuServe. For those of you that use Linux, do any of you use AOL or CompuServe as a provider? I asked both companies if they had interface software for Linux and neither has. Do you use a Windows emulator (Wabi?)? Is there an Internet provider out there that is Linux friendly? If so, do they have nodes throughout the US? I'll need to log in via a 202 area code. Thanks in advance for your help! Ert - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] staroffice 4 defaults
by mperry＠basin.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

I have asked the Stardiv folks this previously but did not receive a reply as of yet so I turn to the StarOffice gurus here. I installed StarOffice as a single user and have gotten the zoom changed the way I want by default. I also have changed the font and measurement of the ruler. How does one change the paper size from A4 to 8.5 by 11 for all new documents? I did create a new default document and guess I could use that; but it seems that one should be able to change this setting more easily than that. Thankx. -- Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Same problem here, my hard drive light never turns off. Don't have I don't have this problem in Windows 95. Running a Pentium 2 233, with a 5.1g western digital UDMA hard drive and its an Acer mother board with the LX chip set. Running SuSE 5.2.. === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---Miguel Afonso Oliveira <miguel.oliv(a)mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > > > Hy all, > > Most of the times I have my system running my harddrive led is on...not > that I hear any disk activity. Only in a couple of times the led goes off. > This obviously isnt a problem but I was just wondering...is this normal??? > a bug??? Does anyone have info about this???? > > > Thanks > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Hard disk led
by miguel.oliv＠mail.telepac.pt 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Hy all, Most of the times I have my system running my harddrive led is on...not that I hear any disk activity. Only in a couple of times the led goes off. This obviously isnt a problem but I was just wondering...is this normal??? a bug??? Does anyone have info about this???? Thanks - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] AWE 64
by bob100＠ibm.net 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

I just chucked my antique 486 for a brand new computer with lots of fancy stuff. Have been able to get everything to work in SuSE but my Creative Sound Blaster AWE64. Compiled from MENUCONFIG and chose not to modularize sound so that I could enter the parameters. Pretty sure that I got all the latter correct. On bootup 'sound initialization successful' (or something positive like that) is reported. Yet, so far, nary a peep. I would dearly appreciate any suggestions. I am very disappointed not to be able to see what audio CDs sound like with my new setup. Thanks! -bob- ---------------------------------- E-Mail: bob gordon <bob100(a)ibm.net> Date: 31-Jul-98 Time: 16:38:03 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] dataflex modems
by linux＠dexter.demon.co.uk 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

I am new to linux so please bear with me I have a dataflex v34 voicesurfer modem. I have no idea whether it is a winmodem or plug and pray. The documentation says its only for win95 but there are no drivers included with it. The modem is detected my dumppnp/pnpdump (I forget which) and identifies which modem it is. (make model etc) setserial -g ttyS0 tells me there is a uart 16550a device. In windows its com4, port 0x03f8 irq 4 I have edited isapnp.conf to relect this - still nothing Why does windows say com4 and setserial point to the equivalent of com1. I am lost, struggling and fed up. -Mick- -- Mick Gower Indian Recipes - <A HREF="http://www.dexter.demon.co.uk/india"><A HREF="http://www.dexter.demon.co.uk/india</A">http://www.dexter.demon.co.uk/india</A</A>> James Bond asked his ATT rep for a source licence to "kill". - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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AW: [S.u.S.E. Linux] About gcc g77 f2c in Suse 5.2
by doehrm＠aubi.de 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

Hi! imply try ./a.out Markus Döhr IT Admin AUBI Baubeschläge GmbH Tel.: 06503/917-152 Fax : 06503/917-119 doehrm(a)aubi.de > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Naceur Bouziani [<A HREF="mailto:Naceur@wanadoo.fr">mailto:Naceur@wanadoo.fr</A>] > Gesendet am: Freitag, 31. Juli 1998 22:32 > An: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com; naceur(a)wanadoo.fr > Betreff: [S.u.S.E. Linux] About gcc g77 f2c in Suse 5.2 > > > Hi everybody ! > > I have now a PC running Suse 5.2 linux OS. I am very happy with it. > however > today I spent all the day installing gcc, f2c and g77 whith yast. This > seems to > be excuted sucsecefully. The problem arise when I use it to > compile and > run > a fortran program. > > here is the problem : > > aloha:/root # g77 prog.f > aloha:/root # ll > total 234 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 751 Jul 31 19:46 prog.f > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 163751 Jul 31 19:46 a.out* > aloha:/root # a.out & > [1] 663 > bash: a.out: command not found > [1]+ Exit 127 a.out > > Is this a problem of the shell 'bash' wich come with the distribution > (Suse 5.2) ? > Or the problem is much more complicated ? > Should I learn how to get and compile gcc (from scrach!!) ? > > Could any one, please help me with advise ? > > Thank you very much > > PS: I am new to linux and very new in being root of a machine ! > > Naceur > > > > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] About gcc g77 f2c in Suse 5.2
by Naceur＠wanadoo.fr 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

Hi everybody ! I have now a PC running Suse 5.2 linux OS. I am very happy with it. however today I spent all the day installing gcc, f2c and g77 whith yast. This seems to be excuted sucsecefully. The problem arise when I use it to compile and run a fortran program. here is the problem : aloha:/root # g77 prog.f aloha:/root # ll total 234 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 751 Jul 31 19:46 prog.f -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 163751 Jul 31 19:46 a.out* aloha:/root # a.out & [1] 663 bash: a.out: command not found [1]+ Exit 127 a.out Is this a problem of the shell 'bash' wich come with the distribution (Suse 5.2) ? Or the problem is much more complicated ? Should I learn how to get and compile gcc (from scrach!!) ? Could any one, please help me with advise ? Thank you very much PS: I am new to linux and very new in being root of a machine ! Naceur - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] MIMI or base64 encoded messages
by chiodi＠usaor.net 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

How do you decode base64 or MIME encoded files in SuSE? Is there a special program? ___________________ Jt - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Project management tools
by cjtan＠acm.org 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

Does anyone know of any good project management tools for Linux? Thanks a lot. Regards, Kenneth Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Kenneth Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Matrox G200
by satan3＠home.com 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

I had sent an email to the person listed as the maintainer of the SuSE graphics cards database, but apparently that person does not respond to personal email. I am hoping that someone at SuSE can give me an idea of how long it might be before either the new Matrox G200 based graphics cards are either supported through xfree or through a SuSE xserver. I realize I may be asking you to guess, well if so, your guess will be more educated than mine. I really want one of these cards, but I need a card soon, and if this card will not be supported for awhile I will have to get a Millenium 2 instead. Thanks in advance. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] IP masquerading and exporting X display
by cjtan＠acm.org 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

I am now considering putting a few Linux machines on my home LAN which will access the outside through another Linux machine which acts as the gateway. I know I will have to use IP masquerading. But I am wondering if I telnet or rsh or ssh into a remote machine and start an X application from a machine behind the gateway, how do I export the display to it? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Kenneth Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Kenneth Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] refresh rate snafu revealed!
by satan3＠home.com 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

For a long time I couldn't figure out if my s3virge or my monitor was the reason I got moire effect at anything over 800x600. Well, it was neither. It dawned on me that maybe the problem was caused by my voodoo card or the pass through cable. I unconnected my voodoo card and went straight from my s3 to my monitor and now I have perfect clarity at up to 1280x1024! 3dfx cards rock for quake and other games, but they can screw up your desktop apparently. Hope someone else out there finds this useful. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE CDLess Install
by chris123＠netcom.ca 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

A friend called the other day and wants to install SuSE onto a CD less machine (386 something). I advised him to do an NSF install by using two nic cards as he has two putters. This option is out. So heres the questions: What are the min files/folders that need to be copied from the cd (on machine 1) to floppies to be installed on the HD on machine 2. This will of course be done under dos. Any info would be appreciated as I should know this but have not time at the moment to re-address this issue. best regards and thanks in advance. ch - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] StarOffice4.0
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

Did you install it with the - (or /) net (or something like that) option? I forget the specifics of installation, but I installed it with a _net_ option and it ran great as both root and as a user. When I first installed it I just ran the install script with no options and It worked fine for root, but it didn't work as expected as a user, so maybe your experience is similar to mine? Check out the installation procedures. There is an INSTALL file with the archive and I believe that you can ftp some additional documentation from Star Division. I don't have it installed anymore, so that's why I'm being rather cryptic, sorry. Good Luck, Mark --- -----Original Message----- From: alexm <alexm(a)hr60.tx.symbio.net> To: S.u.S.E. <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 5:42 PM Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] StarOffice4.0 > > >Hi, everyone! > >Did anyone try to install StarOffice 4.0 on SUSE 5.2? >It runs OK if I am root but hangs if run as any other user. >what's going on? >ideas or pointers appreciated. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] help please
by bkandrk＠juno.com 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

I just started using Linux and I love it. But I'm still quit clueless with it. I just bought cheap bytes 3 cd archive, and I have no idea how to install the programs on it. Could someone please help me. Do I use tar and gzip or both and when, then do I have to compile them. Most programs seem to have more then one compressed file that comes with it. What ones do I need to umcompress. thanxs, Brian Kellogg _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at <A HREF="http://www.juno.com"><A HREF="http://www.juno.com</A">http://www.juno.com</A</A>> Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing in LInux
by lfrancoise＠universinet.org 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

Hello, my printer is a HP 870 Cxi. I used YaST to configure it (with the ASP filter 'hpdj' , which seems to be the best for this printer _ I think ... ) It works fine, but in monochrome, whereas I switched all the 'color' options I could find. Moreover, when I edit the configuration file in /etc, the color option is present. Is someone using SuSE 5.2 and a HP 870 Cxi could help me ? Laurent FRANCOISE ( FRANCE ) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE upgrade lost some utilities
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 31 Jul '98

31 Jul '98

kbase-1.0-5.SuSE.i386.rpm 2822 Kb Thu Jul 23 09:56:00 1998 klibs-1.0-3.SuSE.i386.rpm 1046 Kb Thu Jul 23 09:57:00 1998 These 2 files where updated on july 23 did you download them before this date?? install with upgrade option rpm -U "filename" === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---RICK CHANDLER <chandlerrick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >I upgraded SuSE 5.2 from KDE Beta3 to 1.0, and now a few utilities are > not > >functioning. > > > >I'm particularly annoyed by the loss of the "K File System Control" > utility. > I upgraded the same way and mine works. The one thing I have problems > with is when you right click to get the new option, none of it works. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP and NT RAS
by ingi＠elit.se 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

Hi, I have a NT RAS Server at work with callback enabled. So when I make a connection to my work with my NT Workstation, the NT RAS server recognises me and gives me an oppurtunity to be called back (yes I can enter any phone number I want, default is my home). And then the line is hung up and the RAS Server calls my NT where the RAS Dialer is waiting for a call. I would love to have the same functionality for my Linux box. Has anyone made that kind of configuration. I know that my RAS Server is using PPP and that it does not prompt for login/password. I do not know how the RAS client and RAS Server agree's that a callback should be made, maybe in the LCP, maybe something else, please tell me. The RAS Server allows authentication in clear text. I dont know if that means that the RAS Server uses MS CHAP / PAP authentication, please inform me about that one to. I have Suse 5.2, Kernel 2.0.34, PPPD 2.3 patch 5 (without MS CHAP enabled). I used KPPP (from KDE 1.0) to call into the RAS Server with PAP authentication, but no callback. There is a mgetty for the modem (I think). Telephone bills will pile up If I dont get this callback working. The alterntiv is to stick with my NT Workstation as my primary workstation but then I'll miss all the fun... Please advise. Best regards - Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson Sweden - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] problems with rpm
by Jochen_Hayek＠ACM.org 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

why is this: root@Hayek5 # rpm -bl /cdrom/suse/zq1/kadmin.spm Unknown Field: í«îÛb Build failed. root@Hayek5 # rpm --recompile /cdrom/suse/zq1/kadmin.spm Installing /cdrom/suse/zq1/kadmin.spm * Package: kadmin + umask 022 + echo Executing: 0rep Executing: 0rep isn't `-bl' a valid option to build a package from a `.spm'? I consulted the SDB before, but I did not an answer there. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] DEXE and binfmt
by hlarons＠ComCAT.COM 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

Part of my boot message refers to "registered DEXE for binfmt" or something like that. I can't find any man or help info on either topic. Can someone give me a hint or pointer? Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.89 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] installing Masqdialer
by alfiesty＠chaffee.net 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

slashdot has a link to a masqdialer client on sundays list. Where is tyhe masqdialer server? Is it on the SuSe distro? This sounds like just what I need to get my wife's Win95 box hooked to the internet so she doesn;t need to keep bugging me. Jim - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] X-Windows Question
by pbrun＠sympatico.ca 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

Hello all, I successfully loaded X-Windows with my Diamond Stealth II S220 card running only 8 bits. When I tried 16 bits, the screen flickers when I move an xterm window. Is there a way to reset the Refresh Rate in Linux? Also, what does one do to configure your X-Windows desktop? Where can you download different backgrounds, screen-savers, etc....? How can you save your current Desktop configuration? For instance, when I switch to Afterstep, I can't save my desktop like in fvwm2 Window Manager? How do I select Afterstep as my default WM? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Paul P.S. Anybody know anything about Network Address Transalation (NAT), meaning routing Internet traffic from one ethernet card to a home network? --------------------------------------------------------------- Pavel (Paul) Brun Carleton University, Canada Email: pbrun(a)sympatico.ca Internet Pager: <A HREF="http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432"><A HREF="http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432</A">http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432</A</A>> Internet: <A HREF="http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun"><A HREF="http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun</A">http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun</A</A>> --------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] e-mail question
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

There is a dail up networking program like in windows for linux. You should be able to connect to just about any ISP. I suggest you have a daul boot system, that way there is always windows as a backup till you get your linux system configured. I have used EzPPP, an X windows program and it worked well for me. There are others, like Xisp and Kppp. The EzPPP Project - tool to automate PPP sessions <A HREF="http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/"><A HREF="http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/</A">http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/</A</A>> by the way SuSE 5.3 is out now Good Luck === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---Robert Farquhar <112063.2652(a)compuserve.com> wrote: > > > Greetings! > I am a Linux newbie and I am planning to change my current operating system > to SuSE 5.2. I have an e-mail account with AOL and one with CompuServe. > For those of you that use Linux, do any of you use AOL or CompuServe as a > provider? I asked both companies if they had interface software for Linux > and neither has. Do you use a Windows emulator (Wabi?)? Is there an > Internet provider out there that is Linux friendly? If so, do they have > nodes throughout the US? I'll need to log in via a 202 area code. > Thanks in advance for your help! > Ert > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] HP Scanjet 4c and Linux
by aubry＠univ-lemans.fr 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

A new Linux user, Has anyone already used an HP SCANJET 4c with Linux ? If so, what are the drivers and the applications ? (I use S.u.S.E Linux 5.2) Thanks, Christophe, France. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] In time of war do we want to be running NT??
by fmiller＠lightlink.com 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

'Thought all of you would enjoy this. _____________________ In time of war do we want to be running NT?? <A HREF="http://www.gcn.com/gcn/1998/July13/cov2.htm"><A HREF="http://www.gcn.com/gcn/1998/July13/cov2.htm</A">http://www.gcn.com/gcn/1998/July13/cov2.htm</A</A>> GOVERNMENT NEWS GCN July 13, 1998 Software glitches leave Navy Smart Ship dead in the water. By Gregory Slabodkin GCN Staff The Navy's Smart Ship technology may not be as smart as the service contends. Although PCs have reduced workloads for sailors aboard the Aegis missile cruiser USS Yorktown, software glitches resulted in system failures and crippled ship operations, according to Navy officials. Navy brass have called the Yorktown Smart Ship pilot a success in reducing manpower, maintenance and costs. The Navy began running shipboard applications under Microsoft Windows NT so that fewer sailors would be needed to control key ship functions. But the Navy last fall learned a difficult lesson about automation: The very information technology on which the ships depend also makes them vulnerable. The Yorktown last September suffered a systems failure when bad data was fed into its computers during maneuvers off the coast of Cape Charles, Va. The ship had to be towed into the Naval base at Norfolk, Va., because a database overflow caused its propulsion system to fail, according to Anthony DiGiorgio, a civilian engineer with the Atlantic Fleet Technical Support Center in Norfolk. "We are putting equipment in the engine room that we cannot maintain and, when it fails, results in a critical failure," DiGiorgio said. It took two days of pierside maintenance to fix the problem. The Yorktown has been towed into port after other systems failures, he said. Not officially. Atlantic Fleet officials acknowledged that the Yorktown last September experienced what they termed "an engineering local area network casualty," but denied that the ship's systems failure lasted as long as DiGiorgio said. The Yorktown was dead in the water for about two hours and 45 minutes, fleet officials said, and did not have to be towed in. "This is the only time this casualty has occurred and the only propulsion casualty involved with the control system since May 2, 1997, when software configuration was frozen," Vice Adm. Henry Giffin, commander of the Atlantic Fleet's Naval Surface Force, reported in an Oct. 24, 1997, memorandum. Giffin wrote the memo to describe "what really happened in hope of clearing the scuttlebutt" surrounding the incident, he noted. The Yorktown lost control of its propulsion system because its computers were unable to divide by the number zero, the memo said. The Yorktown's Standard Monitoring Control System administrator entered zero into the data field for the Remote Data Base Manager program. That caused the database to overflow and crash all LAN consoles and miniature remote terminal units, the memo said. The program administrators are trained to bypass a bad data field and change the value if such a problem occurs again, Atlantic Fleet officials said. But "the Yorktown's failure in September 1997 was not as simple as reported," DiGiorgio said. "If you understand computers, you know that a computer normally is immune to the character of the data it processes," he wrote in the June U.S. Naval Institute's Proceedings Magazine. "Your $2.95 calculator, for example, gives you a zero when you try to divide a number by zero, and does not stop executing the next set of instructions. It seems that the computers on the Yorktown were not designed to tolerate such a simple failure." The Navy reduced the Yorktown crew by 10 percent and saved more than $2.8 million a year using the computers. The ship uses dual 200-MHz Pentium Pros from Intergraph Corp. of Huntsville, Ala. The PCs and server run NT 4.0 over a high-speed, fiber-optic LAN. Blame it on the OS. But according to DiGiorgio, who in an interview said he has serviced automated control systems on Navy ships for the past 26 years, the NT operating system is the source of the Yorktown's computer problems. NT applications aboard the Yorktown provide damage control, run the ship's control center on the bridge, monitor the engines and navigate the ship when under way. "Using Windows NT, which is known to have some failure modes, on a warship is similar to hoping that luck will be in our favor,"DiGiorgio said. Pacific and Atlantic fleets in March 1997 selected NT 4.0 as the standard OS for both networks and PCs as part of the Navy's Information Technology for the 21st Century initiative. Current guidance approved by the Navy's chief information officer calls for all new applications to run under NT. Ron Redman, deputy technical director of the Fleet Introduction Division of the Aegis Program Executive Office, said there have been numerous software failures associated with NT aboard the Yorktown. "Refining that is an ongoing process," Redman said. "Unix is a better system for control of equipment and machinery, whereas NT is a better system for the transfer of information and data. NT has never been fully refined and there are times when we have had shutdowns that resulted from NT." Hauled in. The Yorktown has been towed into port several times because of the systems failures, he said. "Because of politics, some things are being forced on us that without political pressure we might not do, like Windows NT," Redman said. "If it were up to me I probably would not have used Windows NT in this particular application. If we used Unix, we would have a system that has less of a tendency to go down." Although Unix is more reliable, Redman said, NT may become more reliable with time. The Navy is moving the service's command and control applications from Unix to NT as part of IT-21. Under IT-21, the Navy also plans to modernize ships in the Atlantic and Pacific fleets with asynchronous transfer mode LANs. Large ATM networks running NT have already been installed on the USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Essex. But DiGiorgio said the LANs might experience a chain reaction of computer failures like those experienced on the Yorktown. That domino effect is inherent to the system design of shipboard LANs, he said. "There is very little segregation of error when software shares bad data," DiGiorgio said. "Instead of one computer knocking off on the Yorktown, they all did, one after the other. What if this happened in actual combat?" Although the Yorktown did not have backup systems, Redman said that future Smart Ships will have systems redundancy to ensure that ships can continue to operate. But DiGiorgio said that the Smart Ship project needs to do more engineering up front. "Installing a control system on a warship and resolving problems as the project progresses is a costly and naive process," DiGiorgio wrote in the Proceedings article. "Now, with the top people rotated off the Smart Ship Project, it would be wise for the Navy to investigate this fiasco more fully." Redman has a different perspective. "If it were me, I wouldn't say all the things that Tony [DiGiorgio] has said out of discretion and consideration for being a long-term employee," he said. "But I will say this about Tony, he's a very bright engineer." "Everybody plays the obedience role where you cannot criticize the system," said DiGiorgio, a self-described whistle-blower. "I'm not that kind of guy." -- Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fmiller(a)lightlink.com fm(a)cupserv.org - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] NEWS!
by fmiller＠lightlink.com 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

The following sites will make your day or night! Fred _________________________ <A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/zdnn_smgraph_display/0,3441,2123618,00.ht…"><A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/zdnn_smgraph_display/0,3441,2123618,00.ht…</A">http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/zdnn_smgraph_display/0,3441,2123618,00.ht…</A</A>> <A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/zdnn_smgraph_display/0,3441,2123524,00.ht…"><A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/zdnn_smgraph_display/0,3441,2123524,00.ht…</A">http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/zdnn_smgraph_display/0,3441,2123524,00.ht…</A</A>> -- Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fmiller(a)lightlink.com fm(a)cupserv.org - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE upgrade lost some utilities
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

>I upgraded SuSE 5.2 from KDE Beta3 to 1.0, and now a few utilities are not >functioning. > >I'm particularly annoyed by the loss of the "K File System Control" utility. I upgraded the same way and mine works. The one thing I have problems with is when you right click to get the new option, none of it works. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE upgrade lost some utilities
by lsayre＠stratos.net 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

I upgraded SuSE 5.2 from KDE Beta3 to 1.0, and now a few utilities are not functioning. I'm particularly annoyed by the loss of the "K File System Control" utility. I used YaST to install QT 1.33, and KDE 1.0, and aside from one warning the install went well. I can't recall the warning message. Lawrence Sayre <lsayre(a)stratos.net> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] wget --mirror --exclude-directories ...,...,...
by Jochen_Hayek＠ACM.org 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

Hi there! I want to use wget to mirror a directory tree (via ftp), but exclude some of the subdirectories. How would I actually specify those subdirectories to be excluded? I tried various things, * like naming them relatively to the root of that tree, * like naming them absolutely -- like the root of that tree itself, but to no success. What do I do wrong? Jochen_Hayek(a)ACM.org ---------- johayek@Hayek5 $ wget --version Wget/1.4.5 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Error-KDE
by sodah＠qatar.net.qa 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

hi everytime i logout from KDE, i get the following msg's: .. FEHLER FEHLER /home/pons/.xinitrc: line 20 : 144 segmentation fault kfm -d [FVWM][catchRedirectError]: <<ERROR>> another WM is running .... can someone tell me how to solve it. thx in advance. bye -fadi ============================== i replaced my WM in .xinitrc with the following: pons@lifebook:/home/pons > vi .xinitrc #!/bin/bash # # .xsession/.xinitrc # export TERM=xterm # # choose a window manager # #if test -z "$WINDOWMANAGER" ; then #WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 #kaudioserver & kfm -d & kcc -init & kbgndwm & krootwm & kpanel & kwm #fi # # load resources # if [ -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xmodmap fi if [ -f ~/.Xmodmap ]; then xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap fi if [ -f ~/.Xdefaults ]; then xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults fi if [ -f ~/.Xresources ]; then xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources fi # # start some stuff # # day planer deamon # pland & # # finaly start the window manager # exec $WINDOWMANAGER ==================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] changing a linux native partition to dos
by sina＠Glue.umd.edu 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

Hi all, I currently don't have Dos/Win on my machine (suse 5.2). I do have an extra partition which I like to change to dos format and eventually install dos and windows. I don't see the dos option in YAST when I try to create/modify partitions. the "man fdisk" option isn't much help either. Here are my questions: How can I format dos partions with YAST? If I can't, how do I do it with fdisk? What steps do I need to take to record the change and make it permanent ( e.g.: Do I need to modify /etc/fstab? What other files have to be edited? Do I need to recompile the kernel? etc.) Thanks, Ramin Sina - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] fonts
by sodah＠qatar.net.qa 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

hi -Does Linux support Arabic fonts? -How? -GTK is developing arabic! am i correct? bye -fadi - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing in LInux
by lfrancoise＠universinet.org 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

> >Laurent Francoise wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> my printer is a HP 870 Cxi. I used YaST to configure it (with the ASP filter >> 'hpdj' , which seems to be the best for this printer _ I think ... ) >> It works fine, but in monochrome, whereas I switched all the 'color' options >> I could find. > >Does your printer have a thing saying "For Windows" next to the place it >says 870Cxi? If so, I may not have to buy another printer. > >-- >Aaron Seelye ><A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto"><A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A">http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A</A>> >- A printer for windows ?? horror !!!!! I would never have bought such a printer .... No, the HP 870 Cxi is a good printer, in the same category than HP 890 ( it's the professionnal category, wheras the HP 6xx is the public category ) I think this printer recognize HP-CL3 language Moreover, a printer designed for windows wouldn't have worked at all under linux, whereas mine prints postscripts documents perfectly .... but in B&W ! help ! :-! Laurent FRANCOISE - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script problems
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

Try ezppp worked for me and don't need to write scripts <A HREF="http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/"><A HREF="http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/</A">http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/</A</A>> === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---Chilini <chilini(a)inlink.com> wrote: > > > I am having an odd problem that i have never seen before with pppd. > > I am using a generic script that i changed for my ISP, but when i do a > tail -f /var/log/messages to see what pppd is doing, it says something to > the sorts of connect script error, i have tried remaking the script and > filling in my info (like you are supposed to :) and it still doesnt work. > i am running pppd version 2.3.0 and i recompiled my kernel and everything, > i just dont know what is wrong. please help me.. my connection to the > internet depends on this :) heh.. > > Chilini > --Dave > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE Questions.
by suse_list＠hotmail.com 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

I have 2 questions with KDE. When I press on the lock screen icon (or use screen saver), instead of the screensaver coming on and blanking out the screen with the lock function, the screensaver is only covering the little area in the top-left corner (where I have my taskbar). This happens whether I have an application open on that windor or not. It is really annoying and leaves the screen unprotected (I have to manually turn the screen down). I upgraded from the version on the Suse5.2 disk to version 1 off the suse ftp site. I did this by uninstalling the beta version and then installing the version 1 (not just upgrade). Someone on this list suggested it was better that way. The other question I have. When I was using the beta version, I had a choice at the login screen to use fvwm, fvwm95,qvwm, etc window managers. Now I only have the choice between kwm or something like safety mode or something. Does anyone know what happened to the others. All my other settings in kde stayed (including kppp). Cheers, Brad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape annoyances
by suse_list＠hotmail.com 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

Hi all, I was using netscape today and there were a couple of problems that were really annoying me. I kept getting these messages saying NetscaBookmarks have been changed on disk and are being reloaded. I then had to press ok to get rid opf it. I was running 4 screens of netscape at once (as I like to do, to switch between them while waiting for one screen to load). So I had to keep pressing ok whenever this message came up (maybe every 5 minutes or so). I went away for an hour and came back with 10 of these things on my screen. Really annoying. Does anyone know how to get rid of this? The second thing that happened was after using if for a while I got this message saying Netscape error: No route to host. This happened on links I know were active and could even be reached from another browser window that was opened. I shut down netscape, reloaded and it all worked fine again. Does anyone know what has caused this. Is it a bug in netscape or am I dsomething wrong? Cheers, Brad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape annoyances
by suse_list＠hotmail.com 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

Hi all, I was using netscape today and there were a couple of problems that were really annoying me. I kept getting these messages saying NetscaBookmarks have been changed on disk and are being reloaded. I then had to press ok to get rid opf it. I was running 4 screens of netscape at once (as I like to do, to switch between them while waiting for one screen to load). So I had to keep pressing ok whenever this message came up (maybe every 5 minutes or so). I went away for an hour and came back with 10 of these things on my screen. Really annoying. Does anyone know how to get rid of this? The second thing that happened was after using if for a while I got this message saying Netscape error: No route to host. This happened on links I know were active and could even be reached from another browser window that was opened. I shut down netscape, reloaded and it all worked fine again. Does anyone know what has caused this. Is it a bug in netscape or am I dsomething wrong? Cheers, Brad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Looking for help on getting ppp-up connected
by bawcom＠flash.net 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

I can't seem to get my ppp connection working. I'm dialing into Flash Net in Albuquerque, NM, USA. I have a seyon script that sends the login, but I don't know what shell file to run to get the PPP connection established. It's a little frustrating. In the seyon terminal window in XFree86, I can see the PPP starting message, and then after about 15 seconds, the connection is broken. I am presuming this happens because I haven't established the PPP network connection to Flash Net. I am brand spanking new to Linux/UNIX. I feel half-decent about getting my installation to the state it is at. I've been able to compile my own kernel, configure XFree86, get my sound card set up via isapnp, and configure my modem properly. However, I feel like I am missing something basic potentially, so if anyone has any questions to probe potential "gotchas", I'll be glad to answer them. New on the list, Bruce Bawcom - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP script problems
by chilini＠inlink.com 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

I am having an odd problem that i have never seen before with pppd. I am using a generic script that i changed for my ISP, but when i do a tail -f /var/log/messages to see what pppd is doing, it says something to the sorts of connect script error, i have tried remaking the script and filling in my info (like you are supposed to :) and it still doesnt work. i am running pppd version 2.3.0 and i recompiled my kernel and everything, i just dont know what is wrong. please help me.. my connection to the internet depends on this :) heh.. Chilini --Dave - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] libXm.so.2
by jkrough＠mindspring.com 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

I downloaded a small office suite that looks for the library libXm.so.2. What does this library belong to and where can I get it? It isn't a Motif library is it? Jerome K. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing in LInux
by cjtan＠acm.org 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Fred A. Miller wrote: > C. J. Kenneth Tan wrote: > > > > Fred, > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > C. J. Kenneth Tan wrote: > > > > > > > > I guess I must be the odd one here. But in the environments that I have > > > > been in, the rule of thumb is: PS printer for network printing and high > > > > speed local printing, non-PS printer for regular local printing. Over the > > > > years, The printers that I have to deal with are probably a very small > > > > sample of what's in the market: C-Itoh, Lexmark, HP, Tektronix, QMS and > > > > Xerox. Out of these, maybe one or two of them are non-laser printers -- > > > > C-Itoh line printer, and Lexmark Ink Jet color printer. Looking at these, > > > > I guess I am in a different environment then. Actually, one other type of > > > > printer that I have to deal with are the NeXT printers connected to the > > > > NeXTStations. > > > > > > During the days of "centralized" computing, you'd be correct, as you're > > > experience shows. Today, much of what was centralized isn't, thus > > > there's more and more desktop printing being done than in the past. > > > And, these printers are NOT PS printers. We don't have a PS printer > > > connected to our dual P-5 server, and there won't be as there's no need > > > for one. Most want and HAVE their own desktop printer. > > > > I think the difference between your environment and mine is that mine was > > traditionally a "big machine" house. Therefore, 7 units of 8 processor > > RS/6000 is not something that out-of-ordinary. Now, if you think moving > > such facilities to a non-centralized type of computing is going to help, > > try calculating how much money will be spent. The problem is this amount > > of computing power is needed by quite a number of people. The next > > problem after money, is space -- where are you going to put all those big > > machines? The smallest machine used for work, is a dual processor > > Pentium. Most of our work are done on Alpha clusters, RS/6000 cluster, > > SGI Power Challenge and an SGI Origin2000. De-centralize that? Not a > > great idea. In that case, what's the solution for printing? PCL printers > > attached to the Alpha or the SGI? That's an absolute no-no. Every bit of > > the machine must be squeezed out for real computing work. So load off the > > printing to the PS printer. Then you'll also have the question of whether > > to have many small PS printers or to have a few big PS printers, like the > > C-Itoh PS printer which pumps out 30 ppm. Then you'll also be asking how > > will you configure the machines like the RS/6000 to send the print job of > > every user to the printer attached to the user's machine. I'm sure this > > can be done but it'd be a configuration nightmare. On the other hand, you > > can easily configure all the little machines which all the users are > > sitting at to print to the network PS printer, and configuring the larger > > machines like the Power Challenge to send print jobs to a print server is > > also easy. > > I thought my writing skills weren't that bad....lemme try again. We are > "spread out" over a large area. People in the offices are used to > having a printer on their desktop....they will NOT willingly give them > up. Management will NOT make them give them up. They will NOT go to a > net printer to get their work every time they need something printed. > If an OS change is to be made on the workstations, the printers MUST be > supported....period. It's not that your writing skills are bad. It's probably you need better reading skills. All that I am trying to say here is that we have very different environments and I was explaining about the environment that I work in. I was also saying that the days of "centralized computing" is not yet over as you were implying at first. There are some environments which the distributed model will work better. But there are also some others which they don't fit in at all. You just got to look out and acknowledge that this is not an all uniform world, and it will never be. > > > > > One thing that I really don't understand is why do you need Samba to get > > > > the printer to talk to NT Server. Can't you use remote TCP/IP printing in > > > > NT? > > > > > > 'Must not be me this addressed to. I don't want to use Samba...I want > > > to REMOVE WIN95 from all desktops. > > > > > > > No, no. Don't try to unify the operating systems running on different > > machines, unless you have too much time. It's cheaper to hire secretaries > > who can use a Windows box than to hire one who knows how to work a UNIX > > box, or to hire one and re-train the secretary so that s/he (trying to not > > sexually biased here) knows how to use a UNIX box. > > Once again, I guess my writing skills aren't very good. Sometimes, I just don't see why in some cases, the OS should be changed for any practical reasons. And that is what I was saying. Again, you need better reading and understanding skills. > > > > > Will you still have any problems if you were to just use printers like HP > > > > Laserjet to do all the printing on UNIX machines and non-UNIX machines? I > > > > thought the Windows boxes have pretty good support for the Lasetjet > > > > printers all along. > > > > > > Why should I continue to use WIN95? > > > > > > > Graphics printing? Send it all to the Tektronix color printers. Hey, it > > > > does the job. But I am in no way a graphics expert. The stuff that I > > > > print out are mostly plain text, manuals or any other documents in PS > > > > format. Most of the time, the only kind of graphics that I have to print > > > > are PS graphics. So again, I don't have any problems at all. And if I > > > > want my document in color, again, just send it to the Tektronix color > > > > printers. > > > > > > If I did that, I'd get "hung at noon!!!" These folks want their work > > > off the printer NOW, and they don't care to walk any distance to get it, > > > nor wait while another job is printing. Why should we have to buy new > > > hardware? Our PRESENT hardware should be supported PROPERLY. > > > > > Our present hardware, and traditional hardware: big machines, big > > hardware. At one point in time, we even had a Fujitsu and an NEC in > > house! If you know what those machines are, you'll be really amazed. > > I know what they are, but I'm not amazed.<g> I don't think you have ever used any of the NEC SX machine before, have you? Have you ever done any computation work on them? > > > > > As for the AIX boxes, to my knowledge, they just print directly to a PS > > > > printer or they will need Ghostscript. But I haven't seen anyone having > > > > their RS/6000 box connected to a PCL printer before. > > > > > > The RS-6000 isn't at issue here.....it's tied to 2 Dataproducts and a > > > new Printronix 5000 series. What IS at issue, is the wide array of > > > desktop printers that MUST be properly supported. > > > > > So how do you make the comparisons of the performance of RS/6000 and a > > Linux box (on a PC, presumably) for printing purposes? > > Setup.....it's easy on the "big box." Care to elaborate? I think setup is easy on any machine provided that they are PS printer -- just send the print job there! No print filter to tinker around with at all. But that's not the point. How can you say that printing is faster than printing on Linux? Do both machines have the same printer? Do both have PS printers? Or do both have PCL printers? To make a fair comparison, you need to attach the same printer to both Linux and AIX to be able to judge the printing performance. > > > BTW: Do you know what do they do at the CTC? Is it ever possible to > > de-centralize their work? I highly doubt it. If you think it's possible, > > go ahead and try talking to those guys there and see what they say. Go > > ahead and see how big their RS/6000 machine is. > > Being blunt, I couldn't care less! What I do care about is our setup, > which for our business (yes, it's a profit/non-profit dept.) is very > efficient and cost effective. The ONLY changes I and management would > like to make, if possible, is to replace NT on the server and WIN95 on > desktops. I've shown a number of the staff SuSE with StarOffice loaded > in KDE. They ALL thought it was very intuitive and would have NO > problem working with it. Most like the appearance and functionality of > KDE MUCH better than Windoze. At this point, printing seems to be the > major "road block" at this point. > I think you should be more open, and you'll understand my environment better if you take a peek into what they are doing at the CTC. Oh, do you even know what the CTC is? I just thought you should know since you always talk about things at Cornell. The CTC is a perfect example of where the big machines will always live on. If you want better places to look at, try the Sandia National Lab or Los Alamos National Lab or Lawrence Livermore National Lab. Do you know what's common among all these places other than the fact that they are all "National Labs"? Maybe it's time to look out, instead of being immersed in the little Linux-everything world. If you really want to try to put Linux in environments where extremely high performance computation is critical, here's a little project for you: make a 0.1 TeraFLOP machine based on Linux. If you can do that, I'm sure you'll be famous! BTW: SNL has a machine rated at 1.34 TeraFLOPS (a world record set about a year ago). If you really think you can make it, here's a little piece of information for you: that machine is built with Pentium Pro 200 with 256k cache. No offence, but I think one thing that you really have to learn is to be more open and see what others have to say and try to understand their situation before you say anything. I shall drop this thread now. Kenneth Tan > Fred > > -- > Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator > Cornell Univ. Press Services > fmiller(a)lightlink.com > fm(a)cupserv.org > > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Upgrading a hard disk without reinstalling
by mperry＠basin.com 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

I am upgrading the hard disk subsystem and do not really want to reinstall linux again. I do have a backup on 8mm tape using taper. How can I put the new 6.4 gig ata drive in and get everything back again? I know how to do this with NT and ultrabac because I just did it. Easy to accomplish. How can I get my linux 5.1 to a new partition without all the reinstalling? I would like to pull the older 2 gig drive out and replace it with one that measures 6.4 gig or so. Thanks. -- Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com ------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] REQ: Kernel 2.0.35 extended by Suse
by suse＠wavenet.it 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

Will it be avaible soon? Thanks Bye - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Where are the Netscape Communicator on Officail SuSE5.2 CD-ROM Set
by kwanalex＠hkstar.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

My System was setup by the SuSE 5.2 Officail CD-ROMs Box Set (4 CDs & Book), Would someone please told me which CD-ROM and directory will contains the packages of Netscape Communicator (The Box's cover printed included), I have asked this question to support(a)suse.com but no response. Thank You Very Much! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Anybody out there?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Hey, Is the server down again? Steve - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] updating the kernel
by roberto＠cbvcp.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

What is the easiest way for me to update my 2.0.33 kernel to the 2.03.35 kernel? Also, where are some good sites that cover kernel updating (preferably dealing with suse)? -- Aaron Seelye <A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto"><A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A">http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie: Soundcard setup?
by suse_list＠hotmail.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Hi all, I am having trouble setting up my soundcard for Suse5.2. I have recompiled the kernel with soundcard support but it stopped with an error part-way through. This is what it said: make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/pci' make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/pci' make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/sound' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o patmgr.o patmgr.c gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o sb_card.o sb_card.c gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o sb_common.o sb_common.c sb_common.c:21: #error You will need to configure the sound driver with CONFIG_AUDIO option. sb_common.c:266: warning: `sb16_set_mpu_port' defined but not used make[2]: *** [sb_common.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/sound' make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers' make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 hell:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE # I have an ESS688 AudioDrive card. In menuconfig I selected the following settings: <*> Sound card support [*] Sound Blaster (SB, SBPro, SB16, clones) support (220) I/O base for SB Check from manual of the card x x x x (10) Sound Blaster IRQ Check from manual of the card x x x x (1) Sound Blaster DMA 0, 1 or 3 x x x x (5) Sound Blaster 16 bit DMA (_REQUIRED_for SB16, Jazz16, SMW) 5, 6 or 7 (use 1 for 8 bit cards) x x x x (0) MPU401 I/O base of SB16, Jazz16 and ES1688 Check from manual of the card x x x x (7) SB MPU401 IRQ (Jazz16, SM Wave and ES1688) Use -1 with SB16 I think those are the right settings. In windows the settings are I/O address 220, IRQ 10, DMA Channel 1. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or have any other suggestions? Thanks in advance, Brad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Little Godzilla
by rodolfo＠linux.org.uy 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Please, confirm me if there exist any way to avoid the little Godzilla ;) at the top of my active window in KDE 1.0. (I m trying to kill him with my shoe but hi continues jumping over again ;) ----/ / _ Rodolfo Pilas ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ rodolfo(a)linux.org.uy --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ la oportunidad de dominar tu computadora ------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal Official Web Page -> <A HREF="http:///www.internet.com.uy/rodolfo"><A HREF="http:///www.internet.com.uy/rodolfo</A">http:///www.internet.com.uy/rodolfo</A</A>> Gente Como Uno BBS -> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4838"><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4838</A">http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4838</A</A>> Grupo Usuarios Linux Uruguay [UYLUG] -> <A HREF="http://www.linux.org.uy"><A HREF="http://www.linux.org.uy</A">http://www.linux.org.uy</A</A>> PGP Public Key Fingerprint = EE 6C 76 53 2B D9 2F 53 7B CE E3 69 8C ED 84 09 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Printing in LInux
by punt＠gte.net 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Fred really has a point here! One of the weakest issues in LInux is the printers! The same issue was with OS/2 1.3. The bottom line is many companies have invested in HP laserjet or some type of Deskjet (epson, cannon, hp, lexmark, etc.). And many of us didn't go with the postscript option because for our budget we didn't need it ( kinda like the AMD thing! Couldn't resist! :)) Anyway, I took the time to set them all up, but it was a pain and WAY to much time. And, if you want to interface to a NT server , then you get to aid samba to the equation (which isn't that big of deal, except the smbprint command looks different if you are sending it text versus graphics. yea I know, magicfilter to the rescue). But the bottom line is it is WAY to time consuming and too much interaction. >Ken....I'll try 1 more time.<g> Do you have any idea how much money >we have tied up in printers....printers that work WELL with any flavor >of Windoze?!! Speed is not the issue, unless GS is slower, but >QUALITY of copy IS at issue as is the time required to setup each >printer, of which there are very few the same make and model. Graphics >IS an issue.....a BIG issue. Colors and resolution MUST be exact. > >Fred > >Fred A. Miller >Systems Admin. >Cornell Univ. Press Services >fm(a)cupserv.org > > > > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] White board and other conferencing?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Are there any good cross platform whiteboard and conferencing tools out there that run on Linux and Windoze 32? It would be fine it there was a Linux product that could communicate with Netscape's conferencing. Netscape does not provide conferencing for Linux, and they may not be providing it with 4.5. TIA Steve -- [<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org</A</A>>] S.u.S.E. Linux, www.suse.com I Think, I think I am, Therefore I am, I think? - Graeme Edge of the Moody Blues - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ISP
by exdeath＠mindspring.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Does anybody know how to set up Mindspring internet service for SuSE Linux 5.1? Thanks Gene - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: AMD vs Intel (was:Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3)
by exdeath＠mindspring.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

-----Original Message----- From: RICK CHANDLER <chandlerrick(a)hotmail.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 8:37 PM Subject: Re: AMD vs Intel (was:Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3) >I've had great experiences with the AMD chip. The K6-2 300 3DNow chip >runs 3d stuff great. I run the 233 version and have never had problems >running anything and it is a touch faster than my other Intel 233. > I have an AMD K6-2 266MHz o/c'ed to 300MHz and I runs everything I throw at it very fast including 3d games like Quake II using special NVidia Riva 128 Drivers. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by hatridge＠straubing.baynet.de 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Hi All! I was just looking over the new stuff list from SuSE for 5.3. I was wondering, with these two programs could I set up a beowulf system? - lam (Local Area Multicomputer) LAM is an MPI programming environment and development system for heterogeneous computers on a network. With LAM a dedicated cluster or an existing network computing infrastructure can act as one parallel computer solving one problem. LAM features extensive debugging support in the application development cycle and peak performance for production applications. LAM features a full implementation of the MPI (Message Passing Interface) communication standard. - pvm 3.4.beta6 (Parallel Virtuall Machine) PVM allows to use a pool of computer as one virtual machine. Applications are written in C, C++ or Fortran, and access the system via the PVM library. Thanks JIM ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie: Soundcard setup?
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

>The easy way to get sound running is to install the a >sound driver module. It is called, I think osslinux, >or something like that. Can find this under Sound >stuff on the cdrom, install it with yast. It puts a >folder osslinux-3.7.1z in the /tmp directory, then >follow the instructions in the readme file. This make >life a little easier because now you don't have to >compile sound support in the the kernel. Bad idea. The easiest way to get sound running is to get an Creative Labs SB16/32/64. The OSS program on the disk has bugs in it, so if you want to use it, get it from their web site. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie: Upgrading KDE.
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

>Thanks for the previous help on installing ppp. I ended up doing a >complete re-install and using kppp. > >Anyway, I have another question. I downloaded all the updates for KDE >from the suse ftp site, but am having trouble installing them. >I have tried everything from kpackage, xrpm and rpm. I even tried >yast's update thingy but I couldn't get it to recognise the directory >where I had the updates. I figured (rightly or wrongly) that the Yast >update tool only works for whole distributions and not just to say >update KDE. >Is this right? Well, I had problems getting it installed myself, but with help from the group I got it going. I had to uninstall KDE. I used YaST to do it (delete packages) and then install. (install packages) Install QT first then (if I'm not wrong) the libs, main and the others. It should work for ya. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: AMD vs Intel (was:Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3)
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

>> Again I say, I do not want the best performing chip of a given >> clock speed, I want the best performing chip for the price. > >Ben makes an excellent point. Unless you are into 3d gaming, this >argument is meaningless. Linux doesn't demand the fastest cpu to run >well. I've had great experiences with the AMD chip. The K6-2 300 3DNow chip runs 3d stuff great. I run the 233 version and have never had problems running anything and it is a touch faster than my other Intel 233. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by punt＠gte.net 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

Always conceded the floating point issue. I did think however that the K6-2 (please not the -2) did attempt to address and remedy most of the difference. >using a non-threaded, non-SMP client. In contrast, a p200 gets around >280000 keys/second on a well configured box. >AMD 333MHz 547000 keys/second >Intel 350MHz 942000-981000 keys/second (6 machines tested) suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Questions about some characteristics of SuSE ?
by storm＠esoterica.pt 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

Why does SuSE still use 8.3 names for the install package and doesn't use the Group: specifier in the RPM Spec files ? That causes the annoying fact of packages being named xf332 by RPM and not "XFree86-3.3.2" as it should be and be placed all in the the root of the RPM groups which makes it very dificult to browse through many packages. -- ___ _ __ __ / __| |_ ___ _ _| \/ | WWW: <A HREF="http://homepage.esoterica.pt/~storm"><A HREF="http://homepage.esoterica.pt/~storm</A">http://homepage.esoterica.pt/~storm</A</A>> \__ \ _/ _ \ '_| |\/| | Email: storm(a)esoterica.pt / storm(a)atdot.org |___/\__\___/_| |_| |_| ... Linux, The Choice Of A GNU Generation ... - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie: Soundcard setup?
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

The easy way to get sound running is to install the a sound driver module. It is called, I think osslinux, or something like that. Can find this under Sound stuff on the cdrom, install it with yast. It puts a folder osslinux-3.7.1z in the /tmp directory, then follow the instructions in the readme file. This make life a little easier because now you don't have to compile sound support in the the kernel. === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---Brad Jones <suse_list(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > I am having trouble setting up my soundcard for Suse5.2. I have > recompiled the kernel with soundcard support but it stopped with an > error part-way through. This is what it said: > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/pci' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/pci' > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/sound' > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe > -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c > -o patmgr.o patmgr.c > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe > -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c > -o sb_card.o sb_card.c > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe > -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c > -o sb_common.o sb_common.c > sb_common.c:21: #error You will need to configure the sound driver with > CONFIG_AUDIO option. > sb_common.c:266: warning: `sb16_set_mpu_port' defined but not used > make[2]: *** [sb_common.o] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers/sound' > make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE/drivers' > make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2 > hell:/usr/src/linux-2.0.33.SuSE # > > I have an ESS688 AudioDrive card. In menuconfig I selected the following > settings: > <*> Sound card support > [*] Sound Blaster (SB, SBPro, SB16, clones) support > (220) I/O base for SB Check from manual of the card > x x > x x (10) Sound Blaster IRQ Check from manual of the > card x > x > x x (1) Sound Blaster DMA 0, 1 or 3 > x x > x x (5) Sound Blaster 16 bit DMA (_REQUIRED_for > SB16, Jazz16, SMW) 5, 6 or 7 (use 1 for 8 bit cards) > x x > x x (0) MPU401 I/O base of SB16, Jazz16 and ES1688 > Check from manual of the card x > x > x x (7) SB MPU401 IRQ (Jazz16, SM Wave and ES1688) > Use -1 with SB16 > > I think those are the right settings. In windows the settings are I/O > address 220, IRQ 10, DMA Channel 1. > > Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or have any other suggestions? > Thanks in advance, > Brad > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by punt＠gte.net 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

Well, I hate to keep these threads going, but come on..... >From: Fred A. Miller <fmiller(a)lightlink.com> >jep(a)jephill.com wrote: >> >> ** Reply to note from "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller(a)lightlink.com> Sun, 26 Jul 1998 00:17:22 -0400 >> >> > One, they run too hot, >> >> Too hot for what? Isn't this the old canard spread by Intel + sycophant press? My experience is very limited, but I >> haven't had that prob. > >You're alone. Really Fred? He obviously isn't. I have a complete installation also that uses them. They are fine. If for you they are too hot, ok. But what is "to hot"? If they can dispatate the necessary heat where you plan to use them, then they are fine. And we are lumping all the K6 's together. They have different series now also. For some they are fine and worth the tradeoffs. And they dont "categorically overheat". >> > and three, they don't work on a lot of MOB's. >> >> Wouldn't it be sufficient for them to work on some good ones (e.g., some mobos w Award bios. > >I don't know of a good MOB that they'll work on, and there's NO >advantage to me nor my users at Cornell to warrant use it. Well, I have them in a variety of motherboards without issue. Also AMD has a list of "certified motherboards". But the last statement is the most accurate, if there is no advanatage, then by no means don't do it. But not being an advantage to you or users at Cornell, might not be true for others. Again, as with every purchase one must trade off requirments versus budget. And I doubt it works out the same for everyone. In our case it meet all our requiremnts and saved a signigicant amount of cash over intel. That obviously wasn't the case for you, I can appreciate that. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by punt＠gte.net 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

> >> > and two, floating point is slower than Intel, Well, we should at least specify the chip. From what I can tell, AMD K6-2 seem to be equivalent in the FP arena. And I have them working fine in a variety of Motherboards. But suffice to say, there are a variety of processors for a variety of needs/budgets. I am just grateful there are choices available. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by punt＠gte.net 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

> >> Anybody notice we have a new Linux distro to go with so many others? It's >> called Mandrake, so now Stampede and Mandrake are the new new kids on the Has anyone seen Unified Linux? It says to be Posix certified. Saw it right next to SuSE 5.2 at MicroCenter the other day. Noticed it had 2.0.33 kernel with it. Trying to see how it compared to SuSE. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Configure a PPP network - CompuServe
by Jochen_Hayek＠ACM.org 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

In YaST under `Configure a PPP network' I don't find a database entry for CompuServe. I looked up www.suse.de/sdb, but those entries were all from a time before that version of YaST. Can I find newer entries elsewhere? Or how would I add another database entry (for that purpose)? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie: Upgrading KDE.
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

The way I upgraded was rpm -U "file name" if it wouldn't let me install it I erased the packages that where causing conflicts with rpm -e "package name" then reinstalled the packages later. Till I had the whole thing installed, a bit of playing around. There is a way to do it with yast, I never bothered, but I am sure others will explain. If you want to be really lazy, put the kde rpm files and the qt 1.3 lib rpm files in one folder, then use this command: rpm -U --force *.rpm that will force your system to upgrade, do this when all else fails. Also others have recommanded removing the beta kde with yast, then installing the newer version. I find this only works if you installed the version beta 3 version that came on the cd. This is your best bet if you have the CD beta version on your system. Because removing the older files removes the conflicts, as far as I know. Then install with rpm -i "filename" === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---Suse Linux <suse_list(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for the previous help on installing ppp. I ended up doing a > complete re-install and using kppp. > > Anyway, I have another question. I downloaded all the updates for KDE > from the suse ftp site, but am having trouble installing them. > I have tried everything from kpackage, xrpm and rpm. I even tried yast's > update thingy but I couldn't get it to recognise the directory where I > had the updates. I figured (rightly or wrongly) that the Yast update > tool only works for whole distributions and not just to say update KDE. > Is this right? > Anyway, when I tried Kpackage and RPM and tell it to upgrade I selected > the klibs-1.0-3.SuSE.i386.rpm file. It couldn't update this as it came > up with a whole heap of messages about lib---.so.0 needed by other > k------- files. So then I thought I would try upgrading another package > such as kbase and it said (as I thought it would) that I needed the new > libs (which I had just tried to upgrade). So I'm stuck. > Can anyone help me out with how to upgrade KDE? I guess this will help > me do many other upgrades in the future. I must be missing some piece of > information about upgrades. > Thanks in advance, > Brad > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie: Upgrading KDE.
by suse_list＠hotmail.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

Thanks for the previous help on installing ppp. I ended up doing a complete re-install and using kppp. Anyway, I have another question. I downloaded all the updates for KDE from the suse ftp site, but am having trouble installing them. I have tried everything from kpackage, xrpm and rpm. I even tried yast's update thingy but I couldn't get it to recognise the directory where I had the updates. I figured (rightly or wrongly) that the Yast update tool only works for whole distributions and not just to say update KDE. Is this right? Anyway, when I tried Kpackage and RPM and tell it to upgrade I selected the klibs-1.0-3.SuSE.i386.rpm file. It couldn't update this as it came up with a whole heap of messages about lib---.so.0 needed by other k------- files. So then I thought I would try upgrading another package such as kbase and it said (as I thought it would) that I needed the new libs (which I had just tried to upgrade). So I'm stuck. Can anyone help me out with how to upgrade KDE? I guess this will help me do many other upgrades in the future. I must be missing some piece of information about upgrades. Thanks in advance, Brad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] GNU
by satan3＠home.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

My last post for C.J. was quoting someones response to an Alan Cox re. microkernels, it is not my response, nor is it my intention to plagiarize someone else's thoughts on the matter. I merely neglected to quote the section. Sorry if that caused any confusion. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Diamond Viper 330 AGP
by exdeath＠mindspring.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

Is the Diamond Multimedia Viper 330 AGP supported in SuSE Linux 5.1? Thanks Gene Flanagin exdeath(a)mindspring.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Wine failed dependancy check?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

I attempted to install the latest version of wine using xrpm and received a few errors: Wine failed dependancies: ld-linux.so.2 libc.so.6 libm.so.6 I remember some one here (Michael ?) may have said these libs could cause problems. Any thoughts on this? check out <A HREF="http://www.qbc.clic.net/~krynos/wine_en.html"><A HREF="http://www.qbc.clic.net/~krynos/wine_en.html</A">http://www.qbc.clic.net/~krynos/wine_en.html</A</A>> TIA, teve -- [<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org</A</A>>] S.u.S.E. Linux, www.suse.com I Think, I think I am, Therefore I am, I think? - Graeme Edge of the Moody Blues - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: [semi-offtopic] Linux 2.2 Change Summary (final)
by satan3＠home.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

For those of you who are not subscribers to the linux-kernel list, I am posting this excellent summary of 2.2.x kernel changes. This is kind of the laymen's, reader's digest condensed version, but some of you may find it interesting. Sorry it's such a big post, don't be mad at me. Joseph Pranevich wrote: > > Hello, > > Several weeks ago, I posted a short change summary to the Linux Kernel > list. This summary was designed for the non-developers out there that > wanted to know what was new with Linux 2.2. > > Posted for your approval, the updated version of that summary. I can't > claim that it's perfect but with all the input that I've received, it > should be fairly accurate. > > Now that I've completed it, I don't actually know what to do with it. If > anyone out there has a suggestion, please let me know. > > Once again, I apologize for spamming the Linux kernel list with this > message, it will not be posted to the list again. If you do have a reply > for this message, please *do not* send it to the list; instead, send it > directly to me. That way, no one gets upset by such a pointless waste of > space. > > Adieu. > > Joe Pranevich > Programmer at Large > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Wonderful World of Linux 2.2 > -------------------------------- > > As any kernel developer can surely tell you, the advent of Linux 2.2 is nigh. > Linux 2.1 is approaching near astronomical version numbers in its slow march > to completeness, 2.1.111 as of this writing, and all eyes are looking towards > the day when 2.2.0 will ship standard in the various distributions. Even if > you don't actually follow the Linux kernel version by version, 2.2 is an > important milestone to understand. So, submitted for your approval, my take on > the Linux Kernel Developments of late, with some significant bias towards x86 > which is the Linux that I use most often at home. > > Please note that this document does not cover all the new hardware that Linux > supports. Many devices, such as scanners and printers, are handled exclusively > in user space. Other devices, such as video cards and mice, are handled by a > combination of user and kernel drivers. If you don't see a device class that > you are interested in listed in this document, it is quite likely that Linux > 2.2 supports it-- just not necessarily using the kernel to do so. > > 1) Chips Galore > > The world of Intel chips is a fast and interesting thing to follow, if you > have nothing better to do. Merced, Celeron, MMX... the names of Intel > technologies float past to be replaced by new cutting-edge technology. > (Whether or not these technologies are worthwhile is a matter that I'm not > even going to begin to try and debate.) In addition, AMD, Cyrix, and other > companies have become solid competitors in the market and each have their own > little optimizations, quirks, and bugs. It's a mess, to say the least. > > Linux 2.2 will be the first stable Linux to support optimizations for kernel > configuration tool for even better fine-tuning. Perhaps even more importantly, > Linux 2.2 (and later revisions of 2.0 for obvious reasons) supports bugfixes > and workarounds for widespread processor bugs including the infamous F00F > Pentium bug. Other bugs that can't be worked around, such as several AMD K6 > bugs, are reported during startup. > > Merced hasn't arrived yet and probably isn't immediately forthcoming, but > Linux 2.2 has already been ported to Sparc64, Alpha, and other 64-bit > platforms so the infrastructure for a 64-bit native kernel is already happily > in place. (There are, of course, other obstacles that would have to be > overcome before Linux/Merced could be released but having a 64-bit ready > kernel is an important step.) > > Multiple-Processor machines now will operate much more efficiently than they > did in Linux 2.0 with issues such as the global spinlock removed. Up to 16 > processors are supported (the same as with 2.0) but the performance difference > should still be amazing. Also, there is now greater support for the IO-APIC on > Intel boards that will make SMP generally better supported. > > In terms of other ports, Linux 2.2 will feature improved support for a large > number of 'mainframe' machines such as Sparc, Sparc64, and Alpha machines. As > for 'desktop' machines, Linux 2.2 has been ported to both m68k and PPC flavors > of the Macintosh with varying degrees of hardware support. (You can expect > that support will only get better as we approach 2.4 or whatever comes next.) > Linux is also moving to processors, such as ARM, that are increasingly popular > for embedded systems. > > On somewhat of a tangent, there is continuing work to support a subset of the > Linux kernel on 8086, 8088, 80186, and 80286 machines. Likely this will not be > usable in time for 2.2, but it is something to look for in the future. > > And on a sadder note, the number of new features that have been added to Linux > 2.2 have made it swell to require an inordinate amount of memory. One can > only hope that, eventually, we are given kernel options to not compile in > unneeded features to get the memory requirements down to a reasonable level. > Thus, I am sad to report that the absolute minimum amount of RAM to have on a > working, text-based, Linux machine is now 5-megs. (Up from slightly less than > 4 with Linux 2.0) To get a reasonable amount of use however without swapping > still requires at least approximately 8-megs. On the bright side, if you are > blessed with more, Linux 2.2 will take much better advantage of having more > memory than ever before with several advanced caching features and other > optimizations to make your box sing. > > 2) System Busses and Assorted Ilk > > Although somewhat less crucial and cutting edge, Linux 2.2 will support a much > larger percent of the existing x86 computers with the addition of complete > support for the Microchannel bus found on some PS/2s and older machines. > > In addition to hundreds of minor patches to the bus system (including many new > PCI device names), larger improvements have taken place. PCI, in particular, > has undergone several major changes. Firstly, the PCI device reporting > interface has been changed and moved to allow for easier addition of new > information fields. This particular change doesn't spell much of a difference > for an end user but it makes the lives of developers much easier. > Additionally, it is now possible to choose whether you want to scan your PCI > bus using your compatible PCI BIOS or through direct access. This allows Linux > 2.2 to work on a larger set of machines as several PCI BIOSes were > incompatible with the standards and caused booting problems. > > Sadly, there is still little kernel support for Plug-and-Play ISA devices. > While that would be a great addition, there are some problems with the > currently proposed systems that will need to be resolved sometime in 2.3 > before inclusion. Fortunately enough, there happens to be a great user-level > utility, isapnp, for setting up PnP devices that requires just a tad more work > than we'd like but gets the job done in true Linux fashion. > > 3) IDE, and SCSI, and USB... Oh my! > > As far as Linux IDE is concerned, not much obvious has changed for Linux 2.2. > The most obvious change is that it is now possible to load and unload the IDE > subsystem as a module, just like SCSI. (This also has the added bonus of > allowing one to use a PnP-based IDE controller.) For less bleeding-edge > machines, the updated IDE driver now supports older MFM and RLL disks and > controllers without having to load an older version of the driver. Linux 2.2 > now also has the ability to detect and configure all PCI-based IDE cards > automatically, including the activation of DMA bus-mastering to reduce CPU > overhead and improve performance. And finally, more drivers have been > developed for controllers that are buggy or simply different. It's amazing how > even excellent things can continue to get better. > > Elsewhere in the IDE world, parallel port IDE devices have become more common > and are now supported by Linux 2.2, for the most part. It is a good assumption > that many devices that are not supported currently will be added as 2.2 > progresses. > > Unfortunately for devices such as rewritable CD-ROMs, there are still > instances where you need to use the newly added SCSI emulation driver as a > kludge for support. I don't like it, but I have no real opinion that counts. > This limitation may be removed in future versions of the CD-ROM driver but > will likely still be present when 2.2.0 ships. > > The SCSI subsystem's main improvements have been the addition of many new > drivers for many new cards and chipsets. Too many, in fact, to even begin to > name. > > Alas, there is some bad news here. There is an ongoing effort to support USB > and USB devices but so far any progress that has been made along this front > has not been included in a Linux 2.1 release. This could change before the > official 2.2 release, but it is unlikely that such a large feature would be > included this close to release. > > 4) Ports: Parallel and Serial > > Nothing much new on this front, Linux has always had incredible support for > these basic building blocks. The parallel port driver has been rewritten with > cross-platform issues in mind and thus what was once just a 'Parallel Port' is > now a 'PC-Style Parallel Port' Functionality-wise, the only obvious change is > that you can now effortlessly share a single parallel port device with > multiple device drivers. (Note however that the naming convention used to > label parallel ports has changed so you may find that your lp1 has become your > lp0. Distributions should allow for this change automatically however.) > > Serial support is chugging along as well as it always has but with one notable > difference. Previously, a serial device such as a modem involved two devices, > one for call-in and one for call-out. (ttyS and cua respectively) As of Linux > 2.2, the two are combined in one device (ttyS) and accessing the cua devices > now prints a warning message to the kernel log. On the bright side, Linux 2.2 > includes support for having more than 4 serial ports, it allows serial devices > to share interrupts, and it includes a number of drivers for non-standard > ports and multi-port cards. My only complaint with serial support is its lack > of support for the standard methods for modules to pass device parameters at > module- load time via the modules.conf file and kmod. (Instead, these > parameters are set using the 'setserial' command. Somewhat yuck.) > > It should also be mentioned that Linux 2.2 will support newer UART chips than > 2.0 which may translate into higher transfer rates using newer modems. > > 5) CD-ROMs, Floppies, and removable media > > Thankfully, the hodge-podge of hundreds of CD-ROM standards has solidified > behind the 'standard' of ATAPI CD-ROMs. This reprieve has given developers > time to completely rewrite the CD-ROM driver system to be more standardized in > terms of support. Small, quirky differences between the individual drivers > have now all been fixed for better support. > > Rewritable CD-ROMs aren't supported nearly as well as one would like, > unfortunately. SCSI CD-ROMs are well done but IDE drives may require the > SCSI-emulation kludge driver. This limitation may be removed in a future > version of the CD-ROM subsystem but is something that we will have to cope > with for now. > > Floppies are working as great as ever. There are new developments in terms of > large volume floppies and it remains to be seen whether or not all of these > will be supported although those devices that communicate using ATAPI (a large > number of them, actually) are already supported to some degree. > > IOMEGA's zip drive, an increasingly popular storage solution, is fairly well > supported under Linux 2.2. These beasts come in two versions: SCSI and > Parallel. Under SCSI, the Zip drives are supported just as any other disk > would be. The parallel version of these drives actually use a sort of > SCSI-over-parallel protocol that is also supported in Linux 2.2. (Other IOMEGA > solutions such as DITTO drives may also be supported using the ftape drivers.) > > DVD drives are already supported, to some degree, under Linux as they > represent themselves largely as ATAPI drives. (SCSI DVD drives may not, but > they will probably work using only the excellent SCSI CD-ROM driver.) > Unfortunately, this does not necessarily mean that all will be rosy in the > Linux/DVD world as Linux does not currently support any DVD-centric > filesystems that have been proposed nor are any user-space tools developed to > display DVD movies and etc. Once the standards stabilize a bit, it is highly > likely that the requisite parts will be added to the Linux kernel sometime > during the 2.2.x cycle, following the initial release. > > Other removable media may or may not be supported under Linux 2.2. If the > questionable device connects through the parallel port, it is possible that it > is supported using one of the Parallel Port IDE device protocol modules that > are included in the kernel. > > 6) Glorious Sounds! > > At long last, the sound code has been partially rewritten to be completely > modular from start to finish. Distributions will be able to more easily > include generic sound support out-of-the-box for their users as well as making > it easier for the rest of us to load and configure sound devices. (Especially > pesky Plug-and-Play ones.) Lots of new sound devices are supported as well and > it looks like this is one area where Linux will really improve in the next > year. > > One very notable defect here is the remaining lack of support for the PC > internal speaker, if only for completeness. Then again, Windows 95/98 doesn't > do it either so who am I to judge? > > 7) Video4Linux > > Linux 2.2 now has amazing support for a growing number of TV and radio tuner > cards and digital cameras. This is a truly bleeding edge addition to 2.1's > roster so there may still be some outstanding issues but it is reasonable to > assume that they will be fixed in time. In my humble opinion, this is just an > amazing area for Linux to be in at all. > > 8) Back me up, Scotty! > > Linux 2.2's backup and tape device subsystem has not changed much since the > 2.0 release. More drivers for devices have been written, of course and > substantial improvement has been made for backup devices that work off of the > floppy disk controller (including the IOMEGA DITTO). > > Rewritable CD-ROMs have become a popular solution for backing up data and they > are supported under Linux 2.2 (either natively or using the SCSI emulation > driver.) There are still outstanding issues in this regard, see my note above > on CD-ROMs for details. > > 9) Joysticks, Mouse, and Input Devices > > Joysticks are better supported in 2.2 including a large number of new > joysticks and joysticks with an inordinate numbers of buttons. Likely, your > joystick will work under Linux 2.2. > > Mice in 2.2 aren't really different from mice in 2.0. (As in 2.0, there are > some inconsistencies regarding mouse support that will be addressed in the > future. For the most part, mouse control is provided through a daemon external > to the kernel. Some mouse drivers however deliberately emulate a Microsoft > standard mouse. The reasoning behind this is obvious but it would be nice if > it was decided on in one way or the other.) It should be noted that, while not > solely a kernel issue, mice with Microsoft's spinning wheel extension are > supported in recent versions of the XFree86, Linux's most popular GUI. > (However most Linux applications have not been designed to take advantage of > this feature-- yet.) > > Additionally, several other input devices are now supported under Linux 2.2 > including some digitizer pads. If your devices emulate a mouse (as many do) > then it is already supported by Linux 2.2 (and, in fact, Linux 2.0.) > > 10) Video > > Perhaps the most surprising and cutting-edge addition to the Linux kernel for > inclusion in version 2.2 is what is called the 'frame-buffer console' driver > (or 'fbcon', for short.) > > Previously, the Linux kernel (for Intel-based machines) only understood and > manipulated the video devices in text mode. Graphical support was to be > provided by two other systems: 'svgalib' for console-based graphics, and a > specialized X Server for window-based graphics. This kludgey system often > required configuration information to be repeated and each system supported > only a limited slice of the myriad of video devices in common use. > > Since this addition is rather new, it remains to be seen whether it will truly > replace the previous and long-standing duality. Unfortunately, it could be > nearly a year after Linux 2.2 ships before this new system could be robust > enough to support the cards and technologies that we already take for granted > as working. My personal opinion is that this is the right idea, but I'm going > to withhold judgment until we see exactly how far Linus and the developers > decide to take this feature. > > As an added side-effect of this new feature, primitive multi-heading has been > added into the kernel for some devices. Currently, this is limited to some > text-mode output but it is reasonable to assume that this very new addition to > the Linux kernel will mature somewhat during the 2.2.x and 2.3.x cycles. > > It should also be mentioned that it is now possible to remove support for > 'virtual' terminals as provided by the kernel. This allows very > memory-conscious people to save just a tad more. > > Although unimaginable to the desktop user, Linux can now work even better on > systems that do not actually include any sort of video device. In addition to > being able to log in over serial or networked lines, as Linux 2.0 and previous > Linuxes allowed, it is now possible to redirect all the kernel messages > (usually sent to the console directly before any hardware was initialized) to > a serial device. > > 11) Networking: Ethernet, ISDN, and the lowly modem. > > I don't have a huge amount of experience here; I've been using the same > network cards in all my machines for several years. But, it doesn't take an > Alan Cox to see that the number of supported Ethernet and ISDN devices > supported in Linux 2.2 has risen sharply. I have been told that newer > solutions such as cable modems are supported, also. > > My only gripe in this regard is the continued non-support of so-called > 'Winmodems.' Not that I blame Linux for their absence, making modems that are > 80oftware is just a dumb idea anyway, but the idealist in me hopes that > some day these pesky devils will be supported like their more usable cousins. > > 12) Amateur Radio people are Linux people, too. > > Since before Linux 2.0, Linux has been one of the few desktop OSes to natively > include support for computer-based amateur radio people. (Not that I actually > know what that entails but it seems to be a more popular option outside the > US.) Linux 2.2 includes a large number of enhancements to this subsystem, > including the ability to *network* several machines over radio waves, but this > isn't personally my forte. > > Suggestions and additions for this category would be very appreciated. > > 13) Filesystems for the World > > Linux 2.2 has a wide array of new filesystems and partition types for > interconnectivity. In addition, many of Linux's supported filesystems > (including those I haven't listed here) have been updated with a new caching > system to markedly improve performance. (In fact, not updating the drivers > wasn't even an option if one wanted them included in Linux 2.2.) > > For the Microsoft nut, Linux will now read (and maybe write) NTFS (Windows NT) > drives and Windows 98's (and some later editions of Windows 95's) FAT32 > drives. Linux 2.2 also understands Microsoft's Joilet system for long > filenames on CD-ROMs. And finally, Linux also understands a new type of > extended partition that Microsoft invented. Drivers to read and write > Microsoft and Stacker compressed drives are being developed but not yet > included in the kernel. > > For Mac connectivity, a HFS driver for reading and writing Mac disks has been > included. HFS+ and older Mac filesystems are not yet supported. Macintosh > partition tables can now also be read by the kernel; this allows Mac SCSI > disks to be mounted natively. > > Sadly, OS/2 users will still not be able to write to their HPFS drives. Some > updates have been made to the HPFS driver to support the new 'dcache' system > but not the overhaul that some were hoping for. > > If there are any Amiga users left, they will be pleased to know that the FFS > driver has undergone some minor updates since 2.0. This may be especially > useful if the new generation of PPC Amigas use the same disk format. > > For connectivity to other UNIXes, Linux 2.2 has come forward in leaps and > bounds. Linux 2.2 still includes the UFS filesystem which is used on BSD > derived systems, including Solaris and the free versions of BSD. Linux 2.2 can > now also read the partition table formats used by FreeBSD, SunOS, and Solaris. > For SysV-style UNIXs, Linux 2.2 features a somewhat updated version of SysVFS. > Linux 2.2 can also read the Acorn's RiscOS disks. And finally, Linux 2.2 > features a somewhat updated version of the ever-popular Minix filesystem, > which can be used for small drives and floppies on most UNIXes. With so many > incompatible formats (and Linux 2.2 reading so many of them), it's amazing > anyone ever got any work done. > > In other news, support for 'extended' drives (the format used by much older > versions of Linux) has been removed in favor of the 'second extended' > filesystem. (This shouldn't matter to many people, 'ext2' is far superior to > its predecessor.) With the increased support of initial ramdisks, a 'romfs' > has been created which requires a very minimal amount of overhead. > > While not quite a filesystem, Linux 2.2 includes enhanced support for > stretching a filesystem, across several disks transparently. At present, this > support can be used in RAID 0, 1, 4, and 5 modes as well as a simple linear > mode. > > 14) Networking II: Under the Hood > > On the protocol front, a lot has happened that I simply don't understand > completely. The next generation Internet protocol, IPv6, has made an > appearance. SPX, a compliment to IPX is new, as well. DDP, the protocol of > choice for AppleTalk networking has also been improved. And, just as you would > come to expect by now, the existing protocols have been improved, as well. I > only wish I had the need to use some of this stuff... > > On the low-end front, not much has changed. PPP, SLIP, CSLIP, and PLIP are all > still available for use. I guess some things don't need much improvement. > (Although each of those drivers have been updated in one way or another.) > > The list keeps going, however. Linux 2.2 will have an excellent new networking > core, new tunneling code, a completely new firewalling and routing system > called 'ipchains', support for limiting bandwidth consumption, and a ton more. > It's just amazing. I wish I could keep track of it all. (But, who am I > kidding?) > > It should be noted that file and printer sharing protocols have also been > improved and markedly enhanced. SMB, the protocol for accessing Windows-based > shared filesystems has been somewhat improved with bugfixes and the like. If > you are a fan of NetWare (doubtful), you'll be happy to know that Linux 2.2 > supports a large number of improvements in this area, including access to two > different kinds of NCP long file names. Trusty NFS has also been improved, > both at the server level and the client level. And finally, those eggheads > over at CMU have been hard at work developing the new distributed network > filesystem, Coda. This filesystem supports a large number of highly-requested > features including disconnected operations for laptops, an advanced cache > system, and security improvements. > > On somewhat of a tangent, Linux 2.2 also includes a driver which will allow > one to share (and remotely mount) whole disk images over a network. > > 15) Wow! There are *people* in Europe? > > Linux 2.0 is surprisingly a very international OS with support for > international keyboards and the like. Linux 2.2 adds to this and other > internationalization features the ability to load some UNICODE codepages for > translating filenames into Linux's native system. (Currently, the only > filesystems that use these UNICODE codepages include Microsoft's VFAT and > Microsoft's Joilet ISO 9660 (CD-ROM filesystem) extension.) > > 16) And, finally... > > In addition to those noted above, there are a large number of other drivers > and things that just don't fit in anywhere but should still be noted. So, in > no given order, the oddball updates of Linux 2.2: > > The loopback driver, which allows disk images to be mounted and manipulated > just like any regular drive, has been improved in a number of ways. Of these > improvements, the most notable difference to users will be its increased > support for encryption and the mounting of encrypted hard disks and disk > images. > > Additionally, support is now provided for 'initial ramdisks' which allow for > increased flexibility in how a linux system can be booted. In particular, an > initial ramdisk allows a distribution to include a kernel with *no* drivers > compiled in and load the required drivers as needed. (Previously, a driver > for boot media had to be in the kernel so that the drivers for the other > devices could be read from the harddisk.) This is especially useful for people > with Plug-and-Play devices that can't be accessed until after a user-mode > utility is run. > > A driver for accessing your computer's CMOS memory has also been provided in > Linux 2.2 which may be useful in some applications. (Sadly, a similar driver > to access your BIOS's flashable RAM did not make it, it will still be > necessary to boot from a DOS floppy to flash your computer's BIOS to a new > version.) > > And finally, in the past, Linux used a half-user/half-kernel method of loading > in and out drivers (called 'modules') called 'kerneld' This method was good > but inefficient. Linux 2.2 has removed kerneld and replaced it with a new > all-kernel solution called 'kmod'. > > ------------ > > This is the 'final' version of this document, unless there are really stupid > mistakes or Linux 2.1 gets a really special new feature. (We're in a feature > freeze... again so that is unlikely.) I would however like to ask for > interested people to continue to send me suggestions and corrections at > knight(a)baltimore.wwaves.com. > > Thank you all for your support during the writing of this document. > Unfortunately, in the rush of suggestions and the rash of dozens of people > correcting me on the same items (Alpha as a 64-bit platform, for example), I > completely lost track of contributors. I'm sorry. > > Thank you, and Good Night. > > Joseph Pranevich -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Fwd: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] ppp & sudo
by miguel.oliv＠mail.telepac.pt 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

Hi, On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Miguel Afonso Oliveira wrote: >> Does anyone know how to use sudo and ppp...I have to give permissions to >> some users on my pc to use dial up connections so I tried sudo...I think >> I forgot to give some kind of permissions because though everything goes >> smouth without sudo when I activate it I get pap authentication error in >> my logs. >Hmm, why do you have to use "sudo" ? Just add these users to the group >"dialout", that should be it... Could you elaborate a little more.... my ppp scripts all belong to root.root. I supose I have to change this to root.dialout...Am I right??? Then I should add dialout as a secondary group to the selected users...Right??? What precessely do I have to do??? Thanks.... The pap authentication error is another issue. But I have no experience on this field, sorry. I run an ISDN Line using Raw IP ;-) LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer S.u.S.E. GmbH <A HREF="mailto:grimmer@suse.de">mailto:grimmer@suse.de</A> Gebhardtstrasse 2 <A HREF="http://www.suse.de"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de</A">http://www.suse.de</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] bfd libraries
by geoande＠cape.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

hi all, i am presently not able to configure the programs i working with namely windowmaker , due to the fact that i am missing the bfd libraries, anyone know where i can obtain said libraries? thanks, :) geo - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by jep＠jephill.com 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

** Reply to note from "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller(a)lightlink.com> Sun, 26 Jul 1998 00:17:22 -0400 > One, they run too hot, Too hot for what? Isn't this the old canard spread by Intel + sycophant press? My experience is very limited, but I haven't had that prob. > and two, floating point is slower than Intel, Yes, but if you want FP, don't you buy Alpha? > and three, they don't work on a lot of MOB's. Wouldn't it be sufficient for them to work on some good ones (e.g., some mobos w Award bios.) Regards, Jep Jep Hill jep(a)jephill.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by punt＠gte.net 27 Jul '98

27 Jul '98

Fred, Fair enough. Strange how you could have just let it dropped too. But instead you singled out on every message that implied they might be decent to ensure that YOUR opinion was heard. You didn't have an issue then. I wasn't looking for a debate. Just thought you comments toward some of the inputs went beyond just your experience; "your alone then" comes to mind. And you know something, I agree entirely about this not being the list for a lot of these type issues. But that seems to be acceptable here. And if you ever noticed, I rarely respond to keep them going. You have a lot of good stuff to say. So just when someone disagrees (and I don't think mine was attacking) take it for that, someone else voicing their opinion, just as you did. Now I will gracefully bow out. Amazes me how quick some jump on others. j -----Original Message----- From: Fred A. Miller <fmiller(a)lightlink.com> > >Then don't. Look, I'd like to see some GOOD competition to Intel. I'm >not going to get into a debate nor discussion as to what Intel has done >to keep AMD or anyone else from providing good compatible >processors....this is NOT the list for it. If they work well for you, >fine, use them! I've had "bad luck" with them and am not interested. >My response may have been terse, but it's because the whole argument has >gone on, and on, and on, and on elsewhere.....I do NOT want to see it >here, and I doubt anyone else does either. > >Fred - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ppp & sudo
by miguel.oliv＠mail.telepac.pt 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Does anyone know how to use sudo and ppp...I have to give permissions to some users on my pc to use dial up connections so I tried sudo...I think I forgot to give some kind of permissions because though everything goes smouth without sudo when I activate it I get pap authentication error in my logs. Thanks and best wishes from Portugal, Miguel Afonso Oliveira - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Some questions
by rodolfo＠linux.org.uy 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

I have just join this list and I would like to know if there exist any official way to suggest SuSE people the addition of a specific software and/or package. I have official SuSE 5.2 installed but I had to add some usefull additional packages which I would like to see at official distribution. Regards from Uruguay. ----/ / _ Rodolfo Pilas ---/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ rodolfo(a)linux.org.uy --/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / -/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ la oportunidad de dominar tu computadora ------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal Official Web Page -> <A HREF="http:///www.internet.com.uy/rodolfo"><A HREF="http:///www.internet.com.uy/rodolfo</A">http:///www.internet.com.uy/rodolfo</A</A>> Gente Como Uno BBS -> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4838"><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4838</A">http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4838</A</A>> Grupo Usuarios Linux Uruguay [UYLUG] -> <A HREF="http://www.linux.org.uy"><A HREF="http://www.linux.org.uy</A">http://www.linux.org.uy</A</A>> PGP Public Key Fingerprint = EE 6C 76 53 2B D9 2F 53 7B CE E3 69 8C ED 84 09 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by hettar＠teleport.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

btw... have you read about the 21264? the new Alpha CPU its double as fast as the merced... NOW ((INTEL IS DOG MEAT)) its actually will have 150 SpecInt and 100 Specfp well to bad it will be very expensive on begin later it will hopefully be priced same as 21164 now Steve Don't be bagging on AMD! -----Original Message----- From: Fred A. Miller <fmiller(a)lightlink.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Saturday, July 25, 1998 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3 > >Michael Lankton wrote: >> >> Aaron Seelye wrote: >> >> > Yes, however, there are other processors out there that are superior in >> > other way to the p2, for instance the k6 (both versions). D.n says they >> > want the idle processes of hte computers, not for you to make more idle >> > processes for them to take, so why not get a processor that will perform >> > much better? The best way to succeed at getting somewhere in the >> > standings is to get multiple computers, not just one good one. >> > (besides, the more comps running linux, the better:) ) >> >> Nothing personal, but AMD processors suck. They have terrible floating >> point performance. AMD's running quake2 timedemos run a consistent >> 10-20 fps (frames per second) behind intel units of the same clock >> speed. Quake 2 benchmarks are a great guage of performance, because >> most people like running entertainment software and it takes a hell of a >> lot more muscle to push a game than it does to run an office suite. Go >> check out some of the benchmarks at Tom's or Anandtech, AMD is only >> viable if you are anti-intel or can't afford intel. Also, the 3Dnow >> instruction set that was supposed to increase AMD gaming performance >> still delivers far below intel numbers. I just don't see a convincing >> argument for any of the intel socket 7 competitors, they all deliver >> sub-standard performance. > >This bring up an aside question. Is Quake-2 available on CD from the >author (I can't find it locally or most mail order), and have you run >it. If so, impressions? I've been looking for a GOOD game for Linux >and haven't found one yet. > >Thanks, > >Fred > >-- >Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator >Cornell Univ. Press Services >fmiller(a)lightlink.com >fm(a)cupserv.org >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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BIOS and MB Stuff (was Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3)
by jep＠jephill.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

** Reply to note from Mike McFarlane <mlm(a)efn.org> Sun, 26 Jul 1998 11:55:25 -0700 I have successfully installed SuSE 5, 5.1, and 5.2 on a number of machines using AWARD 4.51 bios (as modified by ASUS for their mobos). . .all without knowing/learning of any "problem" with these bioses. I'll start looking for trouble. . . ;-) Regards, Jep Jep Hill jep(a)jephill.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] 'sh' is taking all of my processes
by roberto＠cbvcp.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

I think i posted this when the list was having problems, so here goes. As i said for the subject, there is a process called sh that takes all of my idle processes away from rc5/des. It starts on its own, and the pid changes by one every othere second. I can succeed in killing the current pid, but a second later it pops up as the next pid. has anyone had this problem, or what can I do to find out what is going on? -- Aaron Seelye <A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto"><A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A">http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] ld.so.conf
by miguel.oliv＠mail.telepac.pt 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Can anyone explain me how SuSE 5.2 handles shared libraries??? It seems it uses ld.so.conf as a main conf file and ls.so.conf.in as a local conf file. I have installed lesstif and as ld.so.conf directs users to use ld.so.conf.in I placed the new entry there...It didnt work....If I place it directly in ld.so.conf it works but whenever SuSEConfig runs it deletes the new entry making me edit it again. Can anyone give me an hint??? Thanks... Miguel Afonso Oliveira - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by punt＠gte.net 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

> >I am running a AMD-K6-300Mhz now. What number do you want ? >-Dee > Well, I was referring to the K6-2 300 (not the plain K6). I thought their FP stacked up fairly well with a PII-300. But the real point is their are a variety of processors for varying needs/budgets. I think for this forum it is good enough to say SuSE runs equally well on both. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] re. aliases
by satan3＠home.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

But who among you is man enough to "alias z='rm -rf /" ? Man, stay away from that z key! -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] New in 5.3
by jep＠jephill.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

** Reply to note from Jim Hatridge <hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de> Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:14:25 +0000 ( ) > Darn, I wanted to stay with SuSE (the support guys are great), but I want to work on a Beowulf system. I thought I heard someone was setting up Beowulf code to run in SuSE. Regards, Jep Jep Hill jep(a)jephill.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] http://www.suse.com/Product/lx53/new.html#new
by deem＠wdm.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Excellent list of what's in the next version! Looks like it will be a fun time looking at some of the new stuff. Had only 1 app missing that I was hoping to see incorporated - xscreensaver ? (<A HREF="http://people.netscape.com/jwz/xscreensaver/index.html"><A HREF="http://people.netscape.com/jwz/xscreensaver/index.html</A">http://people.netscape.com/jwz/xscreensaver/index.html</A</A>>) Any hope of seeing this excellent package in an upcoming version ? Besr Regards -Dee ---------------------------------- W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem(a)wdm-no-spam.com -=- <A HREF="http://www.wdm.com"><A HREF="http://www.wdm.com</A">http://www.wdm.com</A</A>> ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] sendmail queues my mail when useing fetchmail
by trs＠wt.net 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Sendmail queues my mail when useing fetchmail. Thats the basic problem. Here are more details. I'm useing SuSE Linux 5.2 on a AMD K6 at 200 Mhz with 32Ram. I have fetchmail 4.5.3 and it appears to be working ok. It goes to my isp and gets my mail and delivers it to my system that is connected by Dialup PPP. And I guess fetchmail delevers the mail to Sendmail ok. I say this because when the mail gets to my system I can do "mailq" and see the mail in the queue. But here is where the problem starts. The mail will stay in the queue for ever if I don't do something. Some of the things I can do to get the mail to move from the queue to my mailbox is: Restart the computer, not a good choice but it works. I can do "sendmail -q" and it may work but never before the third or forth time I send the command. Things I have changed: I found a reference to Sendmail in the handbook that said that I could change "/sbin/init.d/sendmail" and remove the "-q30m" reference. Before I removed it I changed it to "-q1m" to see if it would flush the queue sooner. It didn't. Then I removed "-q30m". And ran SuSEconfig after each change. That's the state I am in the moment. I guess the question is why is the mail being queued in the first place? And then how can I get the mail to my mailbox faster? Thanks for taking the time to answer. --Ray P.S. I forgot to mention that when I send mail from "root" to my other userid on my system the mail gets deliverd right away, no queueing. -- Ray Schultz, trs(a)wt.net, web.wt.net/~trs/ Houston, Tx. "The truth is where...?" - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] First test bootdisk for AHA2940U2W available
by mantel＠suse.de 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Hi, I just put the disk to ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse_update/suse52/disks/aic7890 It will take some hours until it's really there (currently I can't remember how often Bodo runs the mirror, but I think it's about three times a day). Just give it a try. And remember that there are known problems when narrow devices are attached to the controller. If you succeed in installing you will get some warnings wrt modules because the kernel on the bootdisk is 2.0.35 and installed modules are older. You can ignore these. I appreciate any feedback, but please don't expect me to answer every single mail. I get dozens of questions regarding the 7890 a day ;-) -o) Hubert /\\ _\_v PS: If you have problems with another AHA2940, this disk _might_ solve your problems. I've tested it on an Adaptec AIC-7881U (rev 0). - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] informix for linux
by mperry＠basin.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Has anyone used the newly available informix SE for linux? It particularly states "made for RedHat and SuSE". Im downloading it as we speak. Its about 9mb in size and the connection seems rather poky. Check out www.informix.com for details. -- Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie Questions: setting up ppp
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Only way to go ... <A HREF="http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/"><A HREF="http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/</A">http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/</A</A>> Features No more chat program GUI interface for script creation; supports hangup/answer for callback security No more #$%@# chat program multiple accounts === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---"Steven T. Hatton" <hattons(a)CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil> wrote: > > > Suse Linux wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I have just installed Suse5.2 and am damned impressed!! I am only > > fairly new to linux (I had used slackware for about a month previously). > > I guess I have so many questions to ask, but I guess there's 2 that I > > really need to ask: > > 1) I am having trouble setting up ppp. I have managed to connect > > to my ISP and login fine, ppp seems to be starting up okay. However I > > can't get any further than that. I can ping the ip number of ther > > machine I'm connecting to, but I can't get past that machine. I think > > the problem is in the routing somewhere but I don't know how to fix it. > > Here is the output of route -n (I hope it formats okay): > > > > Kernel IP routing table > > > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use > > Iface > > > > 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 > > dummy0 > > > > 134.148.7.10 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 1 > > ppp0 > > > > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 > > eth0 > > > > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 4 > > lo > > > > 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 3 > > dummy0 > > > > If anyone could help me out I would greatly appreciate it. It seems I am > > almost there but just can't get over this last hurdle. > > I once had a problem like the one you are having. I found that I needed to > put a -defaultroute after pppd to get it to set up the route. I then put > this in the ppp-up that I used to start ppp. Take a look at my > file:#!/bin/sh# > # /etc/ppp/ppp-up > # > # Aufbau einer PPP Verbindung > # > localip=0.0.0.0 > remoteip= > device=/dev/modem > pppflags="38400 modem debug defaultroute" > /usr/sbin/pppd lock connect \ > '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/ppp.chat' \ > $device $pppflags $localip:$remoteip > # End of ppp-up > > I later installed the KDE and found kppp to be very easy to configure and > use. If you are not using the KDE, try it. There are some purests here > who have good political reasons not to use the KDE. What can I say? I'm a > GPL sinner. The biggest reason I have for using the KDE is I love it! > > > > I have another question: > > > > 2) When I start up netscape I get an error saying something about > > I am not running it in the correct visual mode or something. Also the > > screen goes aweful and it says it's running it in monocrome mode or > > something. It says to check the available visual modes using xdpyinfo > > and run netscape with the command line '-visual'. Does anyone know what > > this is all about and how I can fix it? I didn't get anything like this > > in slackware. Obviously I am not connecting to anywhere. > > You are an excelent newbie :-) Your color depth is likely set to 8bpp or 24 > bpp try 16 bpp. As I understand it, there is a bug in Netscape that causes > this problem. you can change this setting by running XF86Setup and going > to mode selection. > > > I have been reading this list for a little while now and you all sound > > like very kind helpful people. > > Cheers, > > Brad > > We are. Many here are far more helpful than I, because they know a lot > more. We will be far more helpful if you change your name form "suse > linux" :-D > > I hope some of this helps, and don't forget to take a look at the ppp and > chat related How-to's and man pages if you still have problems. One of the > how-to's has a good write up on how to manualy connect using minicom. I > learned a lot from doing this. You may want to attempt this yourself. > > Steve > -- > > [<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org</A</A>>] S.u.S.E. Linux, www.suse.com > > I Think, > I think I am, > Therefore I am, > I think? - Graeme Edge of the Moody Blues > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Mp3 player
by cgavage＠village.uunet.be 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Hi all I know X11Amp... Are there others players for mp3 under Linux? ______________________________________________________________ Cédric Gavage E-mails: cgavage(a)ulg.ac.be / cgavage(a)village.uunet.be / linux(a)eauzone.com Web: <A HREF="http://linux.eauzone.com"><A HREF="http://linux.eauzone.com</A">http://linux.eauzone.com</A</A>> - Mailing List: linux-fr(a)makelist.com IRC Nickname: Niddle - ICQ UIN: 1895684 Linux - The choice of a GNU generation... - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Mysterious Boot Messages after Kernel Upgrade
by mwagnon＠ixpres.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Hi all- I just compiled a new kernel and when I rebooted I got messages like these: modprobe: can't locate module nls_cp437 unable to load NLS charset cp437 (nls_cp437) I guess I needed to select the corresponding codepages under the file systems menu (namely 437 and 850) but I forgot. What does NLS do and is it necessary? In addition to the above, I alos got this: LD setting verify failed, this may not be a problem Try adding (VERIFYLD N) to the top of your script Error occured executing request 'LD 2' on or around line 317 --- further action aborted Anyone know what LD is? How do I know if it's a problem? Should I turn of verifying LD? Thanks, Mark - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] GNU
by satan3＠home.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Both of you boys get extra credit! Actually I have no doubt that eventually the Hurd will be a fairly usable os, nowhere near the functionality of linux or freebsd. The staggering amount of development in the linux community is a phenomenon that won't be duplicated any time soon, but there are some other free unices that warrant some interest, albeit none are as feature-rich or host the wealth of apps that linux does. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Mp3 player
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Go to <A HREF="http://www.mp3.com"><A HREF="http://www.mp3.com</A">http://www.mp3.com</A</A>> They have a list of linux mp3 players === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---"W.D.McKinney" <deem(a)wdm.com> wrote: > > > "Cedric Gavage" <cgavage(a)village.uunet.be> wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I know X11Amp... > > > > Are there others players for mp3 under Linux? > > > > > > I saw <A HREF="http://zuel.ksirc.org/gmp3/"><A HREF="http://zuel.ksirc.org/gmp3/</A">http://zuel.ksirc.org/gmp3/</A</A>> this at <A HREF="http://slashdot.org"><A HREF="http://slashdot.org</A">http://slashdot.org</A</A>> the other day. > > > -Dee > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP nightmare: "serial line is not 8 bit clean" - HELP!!!
by brauki＠cityweb.de 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

hwilmarth(a)miskatonic.edu wrote: I had some trouble with mail setting up hope this does not appear twice.... > > Hello all, > > I'm having some problems getting PPP to work from command line (it works > fine in KDE). I'm getting the "serial line is not 8 bit clean" error. > I've seen other people on usenet (DejaNews) with this problem, but I can't > find any solutions! Some people say the problem is with the provider not > setting the correct connection type on login, but that can't be because > kppp works fine. I just can't get ppp working from the terminal. > This is the exact message: > ....... > > Here's generic.options > > /dev/modem > 57600 > crtscts > lock > name "#tkelley" > noipdefault > remotename > just a guess: with serial lines, printers and stuff there is a parameter "cs8", you probably find something about these parameters in "man stty". I would just enter cs8 to the list and see what happens. Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki(a)cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb(a)db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] matrox
by satan3＠home.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

The new G200 appears to be a big letdown. I was wondering if anyone knows how the performance of the Matrox Productiva compares to the Millenium 2? At this point I am leaning heavily toward just getting the millenium2, but the productiva has an attractive price. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Wo ist Wolfgang?
by satan3＠home.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Wolfgang are you lurking or gone? Haven't heard from you in a while. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] delivery time
by hekate＠intergate.bc.ca 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

I just subscribed a few days ago. I'm in Canada, and was wondering if there's anyone else who's subscribed who's in Canada, and if so, what has been the turn-around time for getting the new dist when it comes out. I know it must go through customs. I imagine I will not get things quite as fast as my US counterparts, but was curious as to what to expect? -M One is most dishonest towards one's God; he is not _permitted_ to sin. mail: mjohnson(a)pop3.aebc.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Newbie Questions: setting up ppp
by suse_list＠hotmail.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Hi all, I have just installed Suse5.2 and am damned impressed!! I am only fairly new to linux (I had used slackware for about a month previously). I guess I have so many questions to ask, but I guess there's 2 that I really need to ask: 1) I am having trouble setting up ppp. I have managed to connect to my ISP and login fine, ppp seems to be starting up okay. However I can't get any further than that. I can ping the ip number of ther machine I'm connecting to, but I can't get past that machine. I think the problem is in the routing somewhere but I don't know how to fix it. Here is the output of route -n (I hope it formats okay): Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 dummy0 134.148.7.10 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 1 ppp0 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 4 lo 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 3 dummy0 If anyone could help me out I would greatly appreciate it. It seems I am almost there but just can't get over this last hurdle. I have another question: 2) When I start up netscape I get an error saying something about I am not running it in the correct visual mode or something. Also the screen goes aweful and it says it's running it in monocrome mode or something. It says to check the available visual modes using xdpyinfo and run netscape with the command line '-visual'. Does anyone know what this is all about and how I can fix it? I didn't get anything like this in slackware. Obviously I am not connecting to anywhere. I have been reading this list for a little while now and you all sound like very kind helpful people. Cheers, Brad (if you're wondering about the address, I just set this up especially to receive the mailing list. Otherwise I get swamped and it's hard to find my personal mail) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] USR Internal Modem
by punt＠gte.net 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] stupid linux tricks
by satan3＠home.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Add these lines to /etc/profile: alias loogut='logout' alias loguto='logout' alias logotu='logout' This saves you the time it takes you in repeated efforts to spell "logout" correctly ;) -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] USR Internal Modem
by exdeath＠mindspring.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

How would I go about setting up a brand new v.90 USR internal (ISA)modem on my SuSE Linus 5.1 system once I get my ISAPNP package going?Has anybody gotten Mindspring ISP to work with Linux (which is what I use)?I need to get on the net quick instead of having to use <gasp> Windows 98<heart attack>. Gene Flanagin - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] TV tuner cards for Linux
by hettar＠teleport.com 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Hia SuSE, I would like to get a TV tuner card for my Linux box. I would like some information on the exact model I should get. <A HREF="http://www.hauppauge.com"><A HREF="http://www.hauppauge.com</A">http://www.hauppauge.com</A</A>> the win/TV cards are the ones I am looking at, but which one? I want full comabability here :P before I buy :) Doesn't everyone :P I wana watch TV/Cable on my computer while I flip channels and such <g> while programing surfing gameing ircing..ect... Please if you can give me a model # and what it is exaclty called...pci/isa version? and if it does in fact work with Linux. Tho I am building a new system (to be networked with my old sytem which I am typing on now) it will most likely have a Metrox G200 agp card, I also know they offer a TV tuner card daughter board/or slot card to work with it. works with the MII too. Well are these supported(the Metrox TV/Card..As I know only AccelX is the only one supporting the G200 card right now(maybe that will change) Steve Udell Any suggestions will be helpful. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] updating the kernel
by chandlerrick＠hotmail.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

>bam! you've upgraded your kernel. It's not rocket science, and it's >something you need to be comfortable doing. Hope this helps. It might not be to you, but to some of us it seems to be as hard. Thanks for posting this message. I've also had problems upgrading my kernel, until now! :-) Thanks again Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] How to install Real Player?
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

I made a script that starts it up. Set up the paths to where it is installed on your system. Check your permissions for the /tmp directory for the problem you describe. This is to use it manually As root LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/rvplayer5.0 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH PATH=$PATH":/opt/rvplayer5.0" /opt/rvplayer5.0/rvplayer Make sure sound is installed, or you will hear nothing. Good luck === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---Michael Johnson <hekate(a)intergate.bc.ca> wrote: > > > You don't have to be a genius. But I know this question has been asked > about 20 times here. Hopefully they'll improve on how they get their > instructions across. It seems odd so many people have problems with this > app. Not just you. I got mine working on the first try, lucky. > > > On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Art Coates Jr. wrote: > > > Using Real Player's instructions, I was unable to get the install to > > work. None of the users were able to get Netscape4.5b1 to recognize the > > symlinked librvplayer.so as a plugin. Also, when I'd start RealPlayer > > manually, I'd get an error saying /tmp/XXXXX.tmp couldn't be found or > > didn't exist. I've been using SuSE/Linux for only 4 weeks so I don't > > claim to be a genius at these things. Thanks for any and all help! :) > > > > > > -Art Coates Jr. > > > > - > > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > > > -M > > One is most dishonest towards one's God; he is not _permitted_ to sin. > > mail: mjohnson(a)pop3.aebc.com > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] BIOS-Powersave features
by brauki＠cityweb.de 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Hello Everybody, I just got myself a niche new system and want to set it up. Is it save to use the Power management in the system bios, or can i run into serious troube shutting down processor speed, harddrives etc.? anthing else to look for about that subject? Jürgen - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] KDE auto hide menu / taskbar
by pmoon＠mindspring.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Hello folks, I was just wondering if anyone out there might know how to shorten the delay in kde to autohide menu / task bars. Also, I have noticed that unless the profile file in my ~/ director is made not hidden, it does not get executed. Is this normal in S.u.S.E. or do I have something fragged in my install. Also I noticed that ~./bashrc does not seem to be looked at when I onen a terminal window under X, any ideas? Perry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] GNU
by satan3＠home.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Extra credit: What is the official GNU operating system? (hint: it isn't linux) -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Re: Adaptec Ultra2W Boot Disk?
by jep＠jephill.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

** Reply to note from Hubert Mantel <mantel(a)suse.de> Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:20:42 +0200 (MEST) > I hope I can put a first experimental boot disk on our ftp server today or tomorrow. But please don't expect > everything to work already. Especially currently narrow devices on that controller won't work. Yea! I'll look for it. I don't have any narrow SCSI devices to run on the machine in question, so backwards compatibility can wait. Regards, Jep Jep Hill jep(a)jephill.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Adaptec Ultra2W Boot Disk?
by jep＠jephill.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

** Reply to note from Lenz Grimmer <grimmer(a)suse.de> Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:45:41 +0200 (MEST) > The upcoming 5.3 disks will have experimental support for it. I was hoping to see a real life working disk before late August. If true, this report of an experimental (alpha? Beta?) driver in a 6 weeks sounds dissappointingly tentative and unlike SuSE (as if Adaptec or U2W SCSI or the ASUS mobo's carrying them were alien oddities rather than mainstream commodities). The OS/2 driver I use for this U2W controller is dated 12/3/97, and there is, of course, already, an NT driver for it. Regards, Jep Jep Hill jep(a)jephill.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Adaptec Ultra2W Boot Disk?
by jep＠jephill.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

** Reply to note from "W.D.McKinney" <deem(a)wdm.com> Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:24:49 -0800 (AKDT) > The normal 5.2 disk/cdrom doesn't work, right ? Right. Been there, done that. Regards, Jep Jep Hill jep(a)jephill.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] How to install Real Player?
by axis＠aye.net 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Using Real Player's instructions, I was unable to get the install to work. None of the users were able to get Netscape4.5b1 to recognize the symlinked librvplayer.so as a plugin. Also, when I'd start RealPlayer manually, I'd get an error saying /tmp/XXXXX.tmp couldn't be found or didn't exist. I've been using SuSE/Linux for only 4 weeks so I don't claim to be a genius at these things. Thanks for any and all help! :) -Art Coates Jr. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP nightmare: "serial line is not 8 bit clean" - HELP!!!
by hwilmarth＠miskatonic.edu 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Hello all, I'm having some problems getting PPP to work from command line (it works fine in KDE). I'm getting the "serial line is not 8 bit clean" error. I've seen other people on usenet (DejaNews) with this problem, but I can't find any solutions! Some people say the problem is with the provider not setting the correct connection type on login, but that can't be because kppp works fine. I just can't get ppp working from the terminal. This is the exact message: Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Connection terminated. Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Exit. Jul 24 19:09:09 mutha kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered Isn't anyone else having this problem? I'm posting my generic.chat, ganeric.options and the relevant part from /var/log messages. Here's generic.chat TIMEOUT 60 ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT ERROR "" +++AT&F1 OK ATDT 4593000 CONNECT "" ogin:--ogin:#tkelley word:xxxxxx Here's generic.options /dev/modem 57600 crtscts lock name "#tkelley" noipdefault remotename /var/log/messages Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright \1995 Caldera, Inc. Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: registered device ppp0 Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha pppd[1392]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Jul 24 19:07:29 mutha pppd[1392]: Serial connection established. Jul 24 19:07:30 mutha pppd[1392]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 24 19:07:30 mutha pppd[1392]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Connection terminated. Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Exit. Jul 24 19:09:09 mutha kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistere\d -- "The three things were damnably clever constructions of their kind, and were furnished with ingenious mettalic clamps to attach them to organic developments of which I dare not form any conjecture." -H.P. Lovecraft - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] FYI: Netscape Servers on Linux
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

FYI: <A HREF="http://home.netscape.com/newsref/pr/newsrelease650.html"><A HREF="http://home.netscape.com/newsref/pr/newsrelease650.html</A">http://home.netscape.com/newsref/pr/newsrelease650.html</A</A>> Steve -- [<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org</A</A>>] S.u.S.E. Linux, www.suse.com I Think, I think I am, Therefore I am, I think? - Graeme Edge of the Moody Blues - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Is this a record?
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

I have just finished an installation of S.u.S.E.-5.2 on a laptop. For some reason, the laptop is apparently not recognising that it has 20MB RAM on board and thinks there are only 4MB. When I noticed this I decided to press on anyway, to see what would happen. I installed over NFS: congratulations on a very smooth and painless drop-in of the PCMCIA services. Linux declared that only 1.6MB RAM was available after the boot kernel was read in. Of course, the whole thing was painfully slow, and I did not attempt to set up X. I guess at least 990f the 270MB that went on was channeled via the swap space (mostly overnight, while I was having a sound sleep). Nonetheless, it seems to have done a flawless job. And how long did it take? --- 16 hours. Is this a record? (I'd like to hear of the like being done with Win-98). Well done S.u.S.E. Cheers, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 25-Jul-98 Time: 11:21:47 -------------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP nightmare: "serial line is not 8 bit clean" - HELP!!!
by geoande＠cape.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

hi , your problem may be more complex than just this however, I had to remove the lock parameter from the options file before mine would work :) geo On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, you wrote: >Hello all, > >I'm having some problems getting PPP to work from command line (it works >fine in KDE). I'm getting the "serial line is not 8 bit clean" error. >I've seen other people on usenet (DejaNews) with this problem, but I can't >find any solutions! Some people say the problem is with the provider not >setting the correct connection type on login, but that can't be because >kppp works fine. I just can't get ppp working from the terminal. >This is the exact message: >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Connection terminated. >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Exit. >Jul 24 19:09:09 mutha kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully >unregistered > >Isn't anyone else having this problem? > > >I'm posting my generic.chat, ganeric.options and the >relevant part from /var/log messages. > > >Here's generic.chat > >TIMEOUT 60 >ABORT "NO CARRIER" >ABORT BUSY >ABORT "NO DIALTONE" >ABORT ERROR >"" +++AT&F1 >OK ATDT 4593000 >CONNECT "" >ogin:--ogin:#tkelley >word:xxxxxx > >Here's generic.options > >/dev/modem >57600 >crtscts >lock >name "#tkelley" >noipdefault >remotename > >/var/log/messages > >Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel >allocation) >Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright >\1995 Caldera, Inc. >Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP line discipline registered. >Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: registered device ppp0 >Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha pppd[1392]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 >Jul 24 19:07:29 mutha pppd[1392]: Serial connection established. >Jul 24 19:07:30 mutha pppd[1392]: Using interface ppp0 >Jul 24 19:07:30 mutha pppd[1392]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Connection terminated. >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 >Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Exit. >Jul 24 19:09:09 mutha kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully >unregistere\d > >-- > >"The three things were damnably clever constructions of their kind, >and were furnished with ingenious mettalic clamps to attach them to >organic developments of which I dare not form any conjecture." > -H.P. Lovecraft > >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] patch linux-2.0.34-suse with original patch-2_0_35
by kwanalex＠hkstar.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Hi! Can I use the original patch source code patch_2_0_35 to patch linux-2.0.34-suse and to build a new kernel Thank You! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Adaptec Ultra2W Boot Disk?
by jep＠jephill.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Any word on a SuSE boot disk to use for installation onto a SCSI drive controlled by an Adaptec Ultra2Wide (that's U2W, not UW) as included on the ASUS P2B-LS mobo? Regards, Jep Jep Hill jep(a)jephill.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] isapnp and sound card
by brauki＠cityweb.de 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Hello, one fine day you will get jumperless cards only. This happened to me. I'v got an isa-pnp soundcard. (realy don't know which) chipset is cx4237b-xq3. pnp dump gives me a hell to read. I am that confused by it, that i do not know what to ask.;-( I want my soundcard running, but need to assign the "usual" stuff to it and don't know how to interpret and modify these pnpdump tales. Oh Jumpers, were have you gone! Jürgen - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] unwanted ftp-server running
by brauki＠cityweb.de 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Hello, with my new system, I installed using the "almost everything" option in yast. now, i have an ftp server running, different from what i had on my systems earlier. I cannot reach my systems /etc directory for instance. On my old system, i could freely walk through everywhere using ftp. what file to alter, or whih process to shut down to get rid of that ? Jürgen - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Network Scripts
by pbrun＠sympatico.ca 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Since I did not get a response, I will try this again: Hello all, >From working with Redhat Linux at work, I was able to work with Network Scripts directly in the following directory: /etc/sysconfig/networkscripts/ However, since I purchased SuSE Linux, I am not able to find this directory or any of the configuration scripts. Where might I find this in Linux? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Paul Brun --------------------------------------------------------------- Pavel (Paul) Brun Carleton University, Canada Email: pbrun(a)sympatico.ca Internet Pager: <A HREF="http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432"><A HREF="http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432</A">http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432</A</A>> Internet: <A HREF="http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun"><A HREF="http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun</A">http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun</A</A>> --------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] email software
by cgavage＠village.uunet.be 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

>Not sure quite what is being asked for here, but it may well be worth taking a >look at XFMail: > ><A HREF="http://burka.netvision.net.il/xfmail/xfmail.html"><A HREF="http://burka.netvision.net.il/xfmail/xfmail.html</A">http://burka.netvision.net.il/xfmail/xfmail.html</A</A>> > Thanks. With XFMail 1.3.0, it's possible to configure more than one mail account... ______________________________________________________________ Cédric Gavage E-mails: cgavage(a)ulg.ac.be / cgavage(a)village.uunet.be / linux(a)eauzone.com Web: <A HREF="http://linux.eauzone.com"><A HREF="http://linux.eauzone.com</A">http://linux.eauzone.com</A</A>> - Mailing List: linux-fr(a)makelist.com IRC Nickname: Niddle - ICQ UIN: 1895684 Linux - The choice of a GNU generation... - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] GNU
by satan3＠home.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Wow, we have some bright students. Ok, here's the poser: Name two other operating systems that use the same (or variation of same) kernel as the Hurd. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] StarOffice Advice
by sandyseeds＠iname.com 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

I'm looking for advice about downloading and installing StarOffice..... System is a P-133, 48megs with SuSE 5.2 and KDE pre-2. Any thoughts/comparisons on SO vs Applix? Can the (Caldera) OpenLinux rpm of SO be installed on SuSE? If not, does anyone know where I can get an rpm of SO that will install on SuSE? TIA Sandy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] A good gnu list?
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

I have been attempting to get some stuff to compile on solaris and am finding that gnu is a real b**** to figure out. Can anybody point me to a good gnu list? TIA Steve - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] PPP not working
by hwilmarth＠miskatonic.edu 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

Hello all, I'm having some problems getting PPP to work from command line (it works fine in KDE). I'm posting my generic.chat, ganeric.options and the relevant part from /var/log messages. I'm pretty sure this has something to do with my modem settings, but where to change them? Here's generic.chat TIMEOUT 60 ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT ERROR "" +++AT&F1 OK ATDT 4593000 CONNECT "" ogin:--ogin:#tkelley word:xxxxxx Here's generic.options /dev/modem 57600 crtscts lock name "#tkelley" noipdefault remotename /var/log/messages Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright \1995 Caldera, Inc. Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha kernel: registered device ppp0 Jul 24 19:07:09 mutha pppd[1392]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Jul 24 19:07:29 mutha pppd[1392]: Serial connection established. Jul 24 19:07:30 mutha pppd[1392]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 24 19:07:30 mutha pppd[1392]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Connection terminated. Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 Jul 24 19:08:00 mutha pppd[1392]: Exit. Jul 24 19:09:09 mutha kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistere\d Jul 24 19:11:57 mutha kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00 -- "The three things were damnably clever constructions of their kind, and were furnished with ingenious mettalic clamps to attach them to organic developments of which I dare not form any conjecture." -H.P. Lovecraft - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Network Scripts
by pbrun＠sympatico.ca 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

>It sounds like this is either an application specific configuration or it is >some thing specific to Red Hat. What do you need to edit these scripts for? I need to configure my network cards so they run correctly. It is the easiest method for me. All I need to know is where these scripts reside. I would appreciate any information because I find going into YaST configurator slightly cumbersome. Thank you for your reply. Paul --------------------------------------------------------------- Pavel (Paul) Brun Carleton University, Canada Email: pbrun(a)sympatico.ca Internet Pager: <A HREF="http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432"><A HREF="http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432</A">http://wwp.mirabilis.com/3731432</A</A>> Internet: <A HREF="http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun"><A HREF="http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun</A">http://www.public.asu.edu/~pbrun</A</A>> --------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Afterstep Error?
by hatridge＠Straubing.baynet.de 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Hi all!, I did not get any replys to my ??? so I'm trying again. If anybody knows about this PLEASE let me know, THANKS I'm trying to get Afterstep to run on my system. (I have 486/33 8mg main with 4.4.1 SuSE / kernel 2.029.) I added the file I made when I tried to compile the program. In Xwin it states that exec "afterstep" is not found. Any ideas? Thanks for your help! JIM ----------------------------------------- Jim Hatridge Germany hatridge(a)straubing.baynet.de M$ -- Ghostdriver* on the road to the future! (*German Slang for the guy driving on the wrong side of the road!) </PRE> <PRE> Script started on Fri Jul 17 12:28:16 1998 straubing:/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2 # ./Installme [H[J ############################### # AfterStep v1.0 Installation # ############################### This Installation must be run as root... If you are not root, press control-C and either login as root or su to root. Otherwise, press <Enter> and sit back while your system is being upgraded to AfterStep! Are you using an 8bpp display? (Y/N) - Answer Y if uncertain. y Enter up to ten users who will be using AfterStep (eg, frank dan root): ------------------------------ NOTE ------------------------------ Each will receive new .xsession, .xinitrc, .Xdefaults, and .steprc files. Existing files will be saved and appended with a .before extension. Press <Enter> if you would like to finish without configuring any users. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Making top-level Makefile mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done TOPDIR is /usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2 Making Makefile in lib mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done Making Makefile in afterstep mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done Making Makefile in modules/Audio mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done Making Makefile in modules/Auto mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done Making Makefile in modules/Banner mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done Making Makefile in modules/Pager mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done Making Makefile in modules/Wharf mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done Making Makefile in modules/asclock mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config done making all in ./lib... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/lib' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/lib' making all in ./afterstep... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/afterstep' rm -f afterstep cc -o afterstep -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -L/usr/X11R6/lib afterstep.o configure.o events.o borders.o menus.o functions.o resize.o add_window.o pager.o move.o icons.o windows.o module.o placement.o decorations.o colormaps.o misc.o style.o stepgfx.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lXext -lX11 -lafterstep -L../lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib afterstep.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized make[1]: *** [afterstep] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/afterstep' making all in ./modules/Audio... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Audio' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Audio' making all in ./modules/Auto... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Auto' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Auto' making all in ./modules/Wharf... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Wharf' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Wharf' making all in ./modules/Banner... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Banner' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Banner' making all in ./modules/Pager... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Pager' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Pager' making all in ./modules/asclock... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/asclock' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/asclock' installing in ./lib... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/lib' install in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/lib' installing in ./afterstep... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/afterstep' rm -f afterstep cc -o afterstep -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -L/usr/X11R6/lib afterstep.o configure.o events.o borders.o menus.o functions.o resize.o add_window.o pager.o move.o icons.o windows.o module.o placement.o decorations.o colormaps.o misc.o style.o stepgfx.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXpm -lXext -lX11 -lafterstep -L../lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib afterstep.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized make[1]: *** [afterstep] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/afterstep' installing in ./modules/Audio... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Audio' install -c -s Audio "/usr/lib/X11/afterstep"/Audio strip: /usr/lib/X11/afterstep/Audio: File format not recognized install in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Audio' installing in ./modules/Auto... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Auto' install -c -s Auto "/usr/lib/X11/afterstep"/Auto strip: /usr/lib/X11/afterstep/Auto: File format not recognized install in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Auto' installing in ./modules/Wharf... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Wharf' install -c -s Wharf "/usr/lib/X11/afterstep"/Wharf strip: /usr/lib/X11/afterstep/Wharf: File format not recognized install in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Wharf' installing in ./modules/Banner... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Banner' install -c -s Banner "/usr/lib/X11/afterstep"/Banner strip: /usr/lib/X11/afterstep/Banner: File format not recognized install in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Banner' installing in ./modules/Pager... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Pager' install -c -s Pager "/usr/lib/X11/afterstep"/Pager strip: /usr/lib/X11/afterstep/Pager: File format not recognized install in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Pager' installing in ./modules/asclock... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/asclock' install -c -s asclock /usr/X11R6/bin/asclock strip: /usr/X11R6/bin/asclock: File format not recognized install in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/asclock' installing man pages in ./lib... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/lib' install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/lib' installing man pages in ./afterstep... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/afterstep' install -c -m 0444 afterstep.man /usr/X11R6/man/man1/afterstep.1x install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/afterstep' installing man pages in ./modules/Audio... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Audio' install -c -m 0444 Audio.man /usr/X11R6/man/man1/Audio.1x install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Audio' installing man pages in ./modules/Auto... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Auto' install -c -m 0444 Auto.man /usr/X11R6/man/man1/Auto.1x install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Auto' installing man pages in ./modules/Wharf... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Wharf' install -c -m 0444 Wharf.man /usr/X11R6/man/man1/Wharf.1x install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Wharf' installing man pages in ./modules/Banner... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Banner' install -c -m 0444 Banner.man /usr/X11R6/man/man1/Banner.1x install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Banner' installing man pages in ./modules/Pager... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Pager' install -c -m 0444 Pager.man /usr/X11R6/man/man1/Pager.1x install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/Pager' installing man pages in ./modules/asclock... make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/asclock' install -c -m 0444 asclock.man /usr/X11R6/man/man1/asclock.1x install.man in . done make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2/modules/asclock' Installing icons... Installing backgrounds... mkdir: cannot make directory `/usr/lib/X11/afterstep/backgrounds': File exists Finished installing the binaries, manpages, and images! Installation is complete. If you have had any trouble with this procedure, I can be reached via email at frank(a)ssax.com ... Happy stepping! straubing:/usr/local/AfterStep-1.0pre2 # exit exit Script done on Fri Jul 17 12:29:15 1998

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] [off-topic] o.o.p
by satan3＠home.com 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Could someone point me to a reference comparing the differences between c++ and objc? All my experience is with c++, and I'm afraid I don't know much about either c or objc. I am curious as to what the advantages/disadvantages of c++ vs. objc are. Thanks. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux/Win98, Possible?
by kimon＠wtco.net 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Hello everbody, I just rejoined this list, so I have not been following any of the conversations... My problem is with SuSE 5.2 and Windows 98 (FAT32). Is there any way to have them double boot? I currently set it up so that LILO would be in the first sector of the root partition and Windows98 lives in its own FAT32 partition. I did not expect LILO to recognize FAT32 but I cannot find any multi-booter that will fit in just the first 512 bytes. I currently found OS boot select version 2.0 beta8 and tried that... but when it goes to boot linux I only get the first "L" of lilo and the computer hangs! Even if I tell YAST to write the boot record to a floppy and try to boot my root Linux partition from the MBR of a floppy I just get an L! Is this normal? Is it windows 9's fault? Fat 32? or some hardware problem? (Is lilo compatible with LBA, and Ultra-DMA drives?) I know this is not a specific problem with SuSE itself (more a Microsoft one) but people in this list have been very helpful in the past. If anybody has any suggestions, your help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Kimon Tsinteris - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Tardis for Linux
by hattons＠CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Can anybody tell me where I might get Tardis for Linux? If you are wondering, Tardis will synchronize your system clock with with an "authoritative" clock on the net. I don't know much more than that about it. This is really handy when you are looking at access files from mutually communicating systems. TIA Steve -- [<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org</A</A>>] S.u.S.E. Linux, www.suse.com I Think, I think I am, Therefore I am, I think? - Graeme Edge of the Moody Blues - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] symlinks
by satan3＠home.com 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

There seems to be at least one person on this list who doesn't understand what a symlink is. If I am in /usr/src, and my kernel sources are in a directory "linux-2.0.35", and I have a symlink "linux" pointing to that directory, then if I "cd linux" it is the same as "cd linux-2.0.35". If I "patch <2.0.34-2.0.35_diff", and the diff wants a directory named "linux", the diff is going to find the symlink "linux" and be directed to the directory "linux-2.0.35". Symlinking is a convention in unix that makes several tasks easier to accomplish, you shouldn't be afraid of it. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] micq and chat
by chiodi＠usaor.net 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

I installed micq and it works great. I have a question to anyone who is currently using it or licq: How do you do the chat sesion you get with the windows version icq? messaging works fine, but I would like to be able to chat as well. ___________________ Jt - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] cdrom permissions
by terryr＠laker.net 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Hi running kscd on KDE 1, I can't get the eject button to eject. SuSE 5.2 tyvm Terry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Multiple kernel compilation (sorry but lost earlier email)
by mperry＠basin.com 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

I apologize abjectly for this but had some minor problems with email from the list at the local end. I saw some headers regarding untarring a second kernel source and would like to get those emails so I can untar and place the 2.0.35 kernel and symlink to that one instead of the current 2.0.33 sources. I would like to have both kernel sources available but link to the 2.0.35. Again, quite sorry for the repeat. -- Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] email software
by cgavage＠village.uunet.be 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Hi all, I need an X11 email software with multi-account... Where can I find one? Greetings, Cedric Gavage - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] email software
by jef＠CTIP.BE 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Dingue ca ..moi je te dis le monde est petit... JEF > -----Original Message----- > From: Cedric Gavage [SMTP:cgavage@village.uunet.be] > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 1998 10:33 PM > To: SuSE Mailing List > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] email software > > > Hi all, > > I need an X11 email software with multi-account... Where can I find > one? > > Greetings, > Cedric Gavage > > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] 'Login incorrect'
by marc_bouron＠hotmail.com 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

>In SuSE 5.1, if for some reason userid/login does not match, the above is >expected. However, in subsequent attempts, I keep getting "Login >incorrect" inspite of entering the username and password (correctly). >Going to different virtual console and re-entering the username/password >(correctly) is successful!! I also get this with 5.2 if I type "exec login". No matter that I enter a correct userid and password, the login is rejected. --Marc. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. Linux version 5.3
by bb＠suse.com 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

OAKLAND, CALIF & FUERTH, GERMANY (July 22, 1998) - S.u.S.E., Inc. is pleased to announce the latest release of its flagship product, S.u.S.E. Linux version 5.3. Linux is a 32-bit multi-user, multitasking variant of the UNIX operating system. The platform was, and continues to be, developed by many of the world's foremost developers. S.u.S.E.'s commitment to precision engineering continues with an option for quicker and easier installation, support for FAT32 file systems, and the ability to run and install both glibc-based and libc-based packages. S.u.S.E. Linux continues to excel in the areas of speed, stability, and security, at a price far less than a single-user license for more expensive Windows NT and UNIX platforms. In addition, the availability of the entire source code allows users to tailor the system to fit their individual needs. Among more than 800 Linux software titles included in version 5.3 are the popular Netscape Communicator web browser version 4.05, the remarkably attractive and customizable KDE window manager, and the Gnome desktop environment. The extensive, 400-page reference manual is an informative resource which guides the user through the processes of installation and partitioning, integrating multiple operating systems, basic Linux commands, setting up and configuring the GUI and window managers, and much more. Version 5.3 also includes S.u.S.E.'s own Xfree86 3.3.2.3 XServer, which provides optimum hardware compatibility by supporting a wide variety of graphics cards and chipsets, including most AGP, PCI, and Permedia chipsets. Furthermore S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 comes with SaX (SuSE advanced X-configuration), a graphical administration tool to configure the X Window System. S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 is scheduled for a tentative release date in early September at a price of US $ 49.95. It may be purchased via our subscription service at a price of US $ 34.95. For orders and information, contact S.u.S.E. by phone at 888-875-4789, or by e-mail at info(a)suse.com. Press Contact: Scott Winterton, (510) 835-7873; saw(a)suse.com Find out more about S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3 and other S.u.S.E. products by visiting their Web Site: General information: <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Details on S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3: <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Product/lx53"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Product/lx53</A">http://www.suse.com/Product/lx53</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Mathematica, Linux, and mathpass?
by hattons＠cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil 24 Jul '98

24 Jul '98

Are there any other MMA users on this list? I had a technology moment and was thus required to reinstall the OS files and recompile the kernel. When I was done I couldn't start MMA because my math ID had changed. Does anybody have a similar story to tell? Steve -- [<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org</A</A>> Registered User #79059] S.u.S.E. Linux, www.suse.com THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CREATION WE BEHOLD: And it is in this word, which no human invention can counterfeit or alter, that God speaketh universally to man. - Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_ [L]et [the charter] be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which; the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. - Thomas Paine, *Common Sense*, February 14th, 1776 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] daylight saving time
by phil＠servcom.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

On my SuSE 5.0 box (which runs so well I'm loth to go to 5.2) I have my clock set to local (Alaska) time, rather than UTC. All was well until the Great Cosmic Joke, daylight saving time came into effect. Whenever I start up the clock is reset to AST, rather than ADT. It's easily enough adjusted with netdate, but I would love to know why, and what I might do to make it correct (other than wait for Autumn). TIA, phil -- [Nuclear war] ... may not be desirable. -- Edwin Meese III - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] 'Login incorrect'
by arunkhan＠xnet.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

In SuSE 5.1, if for some reason userid/login does not match, the above is expected. However, in subsequent attempts, I keep getting "Login incorrect" inspite of entering the username and password (correctly). Going to different virtual console and re-entering the username/password (correctly) is successful!! Any idea, why this is happening? TIA -- Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] streaming video and linux?
by budr＠tanet.net 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

Somewhere I have seen a reference to streaming video on linux, but I can't remember where I saw it and a quick check of the usual places hasn't turned up anything. If anyone on the list happens to know a URL or other reference I would appreciate it. -- Bud Rogers <budr(a)tanet.net> I wore khaki when khaki wasn't cool. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] probably a stupid q to most
by roberto＠cbvcp.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

Is suse a.out linux or ELF? What do those two mean? -- Aaron Seelye <A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto"><A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A">http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Informix on Linux (Was Oracle ANN)
by arunkhan＠xnet.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

At 10:01 AM 07/22/98 -0000, Simon wrote: > >Hi all, > >Some good news has been released by Oracle > >at ><A HREF="http://www.oracle.com/cgi-bin/press/printpr.cgi?file=980721.26767.html"><A HREF="http://www.oracle.com/cgi-bin/press/printpr.cgi?file=980721.26767.html</A">http://www.oracle.com/cgi-bin/press/printpr.cgi?file=980721.26767.html</A</A>>&mode =corp&td=1&tm=8&fd=1&fm=07&status=Search&ty=98&limit=50&fy=98 Likewise, this week's InfoWorld has an announcement on Informix DB for Linux platform. -- Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Tcl/Tk
by sodah＠qatar.net.qa 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

hi where can i get the newest Tcl/Tk ? bye -fadi - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] IDE CD Drives...
by apm＠csn.es 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

-- Hello there... A rather awkward thing is happening in my system... let's see... I have a PII machine with a Intel LX board, a HD attached to the IDE0 port (/dev/hda), a CD-Rom drive at the IDE1 port as a master drive (/dev/hdc) and a Phillips CDD3610 CD-RW drive as slave at IDE1 (/dev/hdd). I use SuSE 5.2 The problem is the following: when I boot form the install (disk 1) CDRom from SuSE, everything is all right... at boot time the three ATAPI drives are detected. However, if I boot the installed precompiled kernel, or anyone compiled by myself, Linux does not see /dev/hdd... I get the following mess at boot-time (dmesg): > hdd: no response (status=0xd0) and thereby I cannot access the CDRW not even as a single CD drive. What puzzles me most is why the installation disk recognizes it? Can anyone help me here? Thanks, Arturo Perez. ___ {~._.~} ----------------------------------- ( Y ) Arturo Perez Mulas. | Consejo de Seguridad Nuclear | ()~*~() apm(a)csn.es | c/ Justo Dorado - 11 | (_)-(_) tfno. 913460165 | 28040 Madrid | ----------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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RE: [S.u.S.E. Linux] IDE CD Drives...
by jan＠spier.be 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

Change the CDRW to HDC and the CDR to HDD, a phillips CDRWas slave and a CDR as master doesn't work always. > -----Original Message----- > From: Arturo Perez Mulas [<A HREF="mailto:apm@csn.es">mailto:apm@csn.es</A>] > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 2:23 PM > To: Suse mail list > Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] IDE CD Drives... > > > > -- Hello there... > > A rather awkward thing is happening in my system... let's > see... I have > a PII machine with a Intel LX board, a HD attached to the IDE0 port > (/dev/hda), a CD-Rom drive at the IDE1 port as a master drive > (/dev/hdc) > and a Phillips CDD3610 CD-RW drive as slave at IDE1 (/dev/hdd). I use > SuSE 5.2 > > The problem is the following: when I boot form the install (disk 1) > CDRom from SuSE, everything is all right... at boot time the > three ATAPI > drives are detected. However, if I boot the installed precompiled > kernel, or anyone compiled by myself, Linux does not see /dev/hdd... I > get the following mess at boot-time (dmesg): > > > hdd: no response (status=0xd0) > > and thereby I cannot access the CDRW not even as a single CD > drive. What > puzzles me most is why the installation disk recognizes it? Can anyone > help me here? > > Thanks, > Arturo Perez. > > ___ > {~._.~} > ----------------------------------- > ( Y ) Arturo Perez Mulas. | Consejo de Seguridad > Nuclear | > ()~*~() apm(a)csn.es | c/ Justo Dorado - > 11 | > (_)-(_) tfno. 913460165 | 28040 Madrid > | > > ----------------------------------- > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > > > - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] X based ppp dialing - a recommendation
by mperry＠basin.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

I recently compiled xisp 2.5 and really like its approach to initiating a ppp connection. I have used in the past a program under OS/2 called in-joy which was quite good and while in these parts, tried ezppp and kppp under kde 1.0. I decided to download the xforms88 libs and compiled both tonite. xisp is a nice looking program which offers scripting, a console mode to see whats going on, nice ip controls, etc. I have not seen the ppp stuff in SuSE 5.2 yet but I think that xisp provides a very nice and controllable interface if you are interested. The later versions will require xforms88 to be on your system. I did notice that compiling xforms that several files were not placed correctly like forms.h and that some links were not done. So you may want to check this out if you roll your own. Rgds. -- Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Apache in 5.3
by satan3＠home.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

Any chance that Apache-1.3.1 will make it into 5.3 now that it's out or will 5.3 ship with 1.3.0? -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] changes in 5.3
by satan3＠home.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

<A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e/lx/lx.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e/lx/lx.html</A">http://www.suse.de/e/lx/lx.html</A</A>> I see no reference to Gnome, and it would surprise me to see SuSE throw their support behind Gnome at all as long as they offer kde. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. 5.3 Availability
by pbnt＠mindspring.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

Just a quick question. I liked 5.1. I really liked 5.2 I'm on the subscribe list. When do I get 5.3? My mouth is watering already. I assume it will be sometime in August...or maybe anyday now?!? Sign me, waiting, Phil Bennett - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] S.u.S.E. 5.3 Availability
by pbnt＠mindspring.com 23 Jul '98

23 Jul '98

At 04:58 PM 7/22/98 -0700, you wrote: ... >We are exspecting the 5.3 to be shipped late August. I just updated our >WEB site and put an announcement etc. on the server. Check it out... :) > >Ciao, > BB Thanks Bodo. Looking forward to it. Cheers, Phil Bennett - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SMTP vs ESMTP
by hlarons＠mail.comcat.com 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

In inspecting mail headers (using Linux leads one to do stuff like that <g>) I see that certain mail hosts use "ESMTP" instead of SMTP. So, my questions are: 1. What is ESMTP (vs SMTP)? 2. More importantly, does the smail package that comes with 5.2 (smail 3.2 of 1996-July-4, according to smail -V) use ESMTP when appropriate, or is an upgrade of smail in order? I'm having trouble sending to at least one host that uses ESMTP. Any info appreciated. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.89 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] re. redhat boot disk
by satan3＠home.com 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Hubert, We just think that having fdisk on the boot floppy, where you can do your partitioning with nothing more than the floppy, and before the installation process begins, is a good idea. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Install Troubles With Adaptec AHA-2940UW
by dsoper＠efn.org 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Hi all, I've got a problem installing SuSE 5.2 (kernel 2.0.33) on a box with an Adaptec AHA-2940UW SCSI controller. What's going on is this: I've got Windohs 95 installed on the box and it works as well as possible. I picked up a 5.2 distribution at LinuxExpo and it installed on my 486 without a hitch. When I went to install the SuSE distribution on my Pentium, it autobooted and detected my card. Then, when I went to load the SCSI module, I got the following messages. When the card was originally detected: Bus 0, device 17, function 0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7881U (rev. 1) Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11 master capable. Latency = 64. MinGnt=8. Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xf800. Non Perfectable 32-bit memory at 0xf0dff000. When I try to load the module: SCSI 0 SCSI=1 host SCSI 0:0:-1:-1 scanning for devices SCSI : aborting due to timeout: pid 0, SCSI 0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 Followed by this (over and over and over): SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 0) timed out-- trying harder. SCSI bus being reset for host 0 channel 0 SCSI host 0 abort (pid 0) timed out resetting I've tried autobooting, using the bootdisk that came with the distribution, and using the Adaptec image that came on the CD- ROM to make a bootdisk. I've also tried using the no-reset parameter on all boot attempts. Interestingly, I also autobooted a Red Hat 4.2 CD-ROM (2.0.30 kernel) and it installed without a hitch. Anyone got a clue about this one? Do I need to build a kernel for booting or is it something else? My boxes vital stats are as follows. Micron P-133 Micronics motherboard (I can't find the number) 64mb RAM Adaptec AHA-2940UW SCSI controller Conner CFP-1080S HDD Plextor PX-63CS 6X CD-ROM Diamond Stealth 64 2001 Video card w/ 2mb RAM Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I wiped Red Hat off the disk and I'm now suffering through Windohs 95. Thanks in advance, Dennis Soper dsoper(a)efn.org "Custard pies are a sort of esperanto: a universal language." --Noel Godin - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] what makes a .../suse/... installation tree?
by Jochen_Hayek＠ACM.org 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

In YaST there are (from my point of view -- pls don't flame me) *2* different ways of installing rpm-s. 1) you have an installation tree, that's what I called `.../suse/...'. 2) you point YaST to a directory containing `*.rpm' files. For some reason ... I want to create (for my own purposes) someting along 1). So the question (again): what makes a .../suse/... installation tree? Meaning: which extra files and extra directories need to be there in order to let YaST accept it as an installation directories. A remember I had the installation book (back in the old days), and that tree was described there and also in the top level README file on the 1st CD-ROM, but I don't find it there (in the README) now. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] od
by cjtan＠acm.org 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Does anyone know which package is 'od' (octal dump) located in? Thanks a lot. Regards, Kenneth Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Kenneth Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Network Scripts
by pbrun＠geocities.com 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Hello all,

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] streaming video and linux?
by cruel＠rocketmail.com 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

There is alway real audio. They have a linux version. www.real.com. Not sure thats what your looking for... === john bitar cruel(a)rocketmail.com ---sm <chaos(a)odn.de> wrote: > > > HihO... > > > Somewhere I have seen a reference to streaming video on linux, but I can't > > remember where I saw it and a quick check of the usual places hasn't turned > > up anything. If anyone on the list happens to know a URL or other > > reference I would appreciate it. > > <A HREF="http://www.idonex.se/~hubbe/plugger.htm"><A HREF="http://www.idonex.se/~hubbe/plugger.htm</A">http://www.idonex.se/~hubbe/plugger.htm</A</A>> > > here youŽll find a plugin for netscape, which uses a lot of video players > and sound playing tools, you find the links on the homepage... > > so far... > > - > To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with > this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at <A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com"><A HREF="http://mail.yahoo.com</A">http://mail.yahoo.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Oracle ANN
by simon.adams＠wcom.co.uk 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Hi all, Some good news has been released by Oracle at <A HREF="http://www.oracle.com/cgi-bin/press/printpr.cgi?file=980721.26767.html"><A HREF="http://www.oracle.com/cgi-bin/press/printpr.cgi?file=980721.26767.html</A">http://www.oracle.com/cgi-bin/press/printpr.cgi?file=980721.26767.html</A</A>>&m ode=corp&td=1&tm=8&fd=1&fm=07&status=Search&ty=98&limit=50&fy=98 Will it be Redhat only or all dists Regards Simon - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Lost Access To Yast & PPP
by sandyseeds＠iname.com 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

I removed KDE from my SuSE 5.2 the other day using Yast, and installed WindowMaker from root. This went along fine. tkPPP works fine; Netscape and tkIRC all run and connect fine. When I set up the 2nd and 3rd users with WM though, strange stuff happens: 1. Only root can access Yast. Any suggestions as to why? How to cure? (In kde, any user could access Yast with a password). In xterm I get the error: "command not found", even when in Yast's directory. 2. Neither user can get a ppp connection -only root can. The error this brings is: "/etc/suseppp/generic.options: access denied." And when logging off either user the message at the login prompt is: "PPP link is not active on ppp0." I've gone thru Yast and confirmed the ppp and network set up; and yes ppp0 IS active in Yast. I notice too that Yast produces a shitload of either "user should be....xxx" and "root should be ....xxx" messages when it runs the config files after making changes. I welcome any help to correct this so that I can get the 2 users up and running. The box is a P-133 with 48megs and a single 2.1G HD all in ext2fs, if that's relevent. TIA Sandy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] lpd and inetd
by cjtan＠acm.org 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Can someone please enlighten me on what am I doing wrong here? I edited /etc/rc.config to that lpd is not started from /sbin/init.d because I wanted it start from inetd . I have edited /etc/inetd.conf , uncommenting the line for printer and changed the command for tcpd to execute to '/usr/sbin/lpd -l' because that's the correct location of lpd (the default install inetd.conf has it as '/usr/bin/lpd -i' which does not exist). Then I typed 'killall -KILL lpd; kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`' which killed lpd (which was started from /sbin/init.d) and restarted inetd. After that, I typed to print a file and I get the following message: lpr: connect: No such file or directory jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. Please help. What am I doing wrong here? Thank you very much. Regards, Kenneth Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Kenneth Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 cjtan(a)ieee.org 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web graphics.
by schullersite＠worldnet.att.net 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

Any _professional_ Web author that's worth their salt uses the ALT attribute of the IMAGE tag. Depending on whether or not I a.) have the time and b.) and in a good enough mood, I'll take a capture from one of the Lynx websites (basically a CGI that you feed a URL to, and in turn it renders a HTML file, displayed in your browser window showing a mockup of the Lynx display) and e-mail it to the Webmaster with a comment like, "This is what your page looks like in Lynx." Ken Schuller Network Systems Specialist NovaNET Learning, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: misc.word.corp <misc.word.corp(a)pobox.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 1:40 PM Subject: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web graphics. > >> I'll be balanced. I don't think images are the problem. Lynx isn't slowed >> down by them! > >Images, per se, aren't a problem. > >*Navigational* images are. You know what I mean -- pint-sized graphics >that say "NEWS" or "SCREENSHOTS" that are necessary to navigate a site. > >When I encounter one of these in Lynx or my graphics-disabled >Communicator, it taxes my patience (unless the graphics are >appropriately marked with text for the bandwidth-challenged). Graphics >like these contain absolutely no useful information, and are simply a >pain in the tush. Get them off the Web! (That is, until we all have >decent bandwidth. Then go for it.) > >As for Lynx, wouldn't it be cool to have many of Lynx's features (such >as keyboard controls resembling vi or emacs) in an image-savvy browser? >That'd be heaven. > >(Actually, such a keyboard-navigatable browser *does* exist. It's called >Opera, and the developers have commissioned a Linux port. Unlikely to be >GPL'd, though.) > >-- Glenn -- >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Enlightenment DR0.14 coming soon!
by k.l.mitchell＠lancaster.ac.uk 22 Jul '98

22 Jul '98

I've been having lots of fun trying to install Enlightenment DR0.14 and all the associated libraries on my system. Has anyone had any luck producing libc5 i386.rpm's yet? The rpms on ftp.enlightenment.org are glibc2 based, so unless you've updated to glibc2, it's not worth bothering with them. Unfortunately, the SRPMS have been built with rpm-2.5. The only SRPMS version I could find wants to use /usr/src/redhat/... as the build tree (rather than /usr/src/packages), and installing rpm from source (tar.gz) is a bad move if you've already got a version running, as it'll over- write your libraries, removing all information about previously installed packages - I've done it myself. :( As well as rpm-2.5, I believe patch-2.5 is required as well (not sure what for yet). Does anyone have a libc5 rpm of this? Anyway, please let me know if anyone's having more luck than me. I've included a suggested order and versio details, below. -Karl package ftp version minimum lib dependencies SuSE 5.2 ======= =========== =========== ============ ======== zlib 1.1.2-1 1.1.1 giflib 3.0-2 ? libgr* 2.0.13-10 ? libpng 1.0.1-1 (gives 2.1.0) 2.0.99 libjpeg* 6b-5 (gives .so.62?) 6.0.1 libtiff* 3.4-4 libjpeg-6b 3.4.37 libungif 3.0-4 libgr-2 3.0 gtk+* 1.0.4-1 /sbin/install-info gtk+-perl* 0.2-4 0.2 /sbin/install-info ImageMagick* 4.0.5-4 all above imlib* 1.7-1 1.6 all above fnlib 0.3-1 0.3 all above esound 0.2.4-1 0.2.4 enlightenment 0.14-1 all above ======================================================================== * = needs patch=>2.5 ! = didn't work! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Karl Mitchell=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Planetary Science Research Group | Secretary, ISPRS WG IV/5 | | Environmental Sciences Dept. | "Extraterrestrial Mapping" | | I.E.N.S., Lancaster University | <A HREF="http://www.ge.ucl.ac.uk/isprs-etm"><A HREF="http://www.ge.ucl.ac.uk/isprs-etm</A">http://www.ge.ucl.ac.uk/isprs-etm</A</A>> | | Lancaster LA1 4YQ, England, U.K. | tel/fax: +44(0)1524 593975/593985 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=k.l.mitchell(a)lancaster.ac.uk=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Routing problem
by world_citizen＠usa.net 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

Hi all, I have the following problem. I cant get outside my network. When i try to set the default host i get the follow ERROR: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device. Can someone please tell me what the cause of this problem is? Kind regards, Joop Boonen. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at <A HREF="http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1"><A HREF="http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1</A">http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] New enlightenment
by satan3＠home.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

I tried the new e yesterday, and it is a big improvement over past versions. You can tell it is really made to be used with gnome however, because it is somewhat lacking as a stand-alone windowmanager. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Problem with Making Kernel
by pbrun＠geocities.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

I downloaded an updated kernal 2.0.34 and re-made it successfully. However, I forgot to choose the option to load the PS/2 Mouse device. So, I went back into "Make Menuconfig" and after choosing this option, I save the changes. After I got out of the program, I received the following error: "Make: *** Warning: Clock Skew Detected. Your build may be incomplete." What does this error mean? This is preventing me from remaking the kernel. I would appreciate any help. Thanks. Paul Brun pbrun(a)geocities.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Slow down messages during boot???
by gecko＠benham.net 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

Here's a weird one... I have a co-worker trying to install SuSE 5.1. Trying to boot for the first time, the boot disk/loadlin/boot CD any and all reboot during the boot process. It happens fast enough that we can't read the messages scrolling by and since we don't even get to the first menu (languages, if I remember correctly) we can't view the logs or anything... The system is pretty "standard". IDE everything and no SCSI, not Plug-n-pray, no networking.. well, PCI video... on an Intel 233 MMX processor...??? ---------------------------------- <A HREF="http://benham.net/index.html"><A HREF="http://benham.net/index.html</A">http://benham.net/index.html</A</A>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++>++++ P+++$ L++>++++ E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b++++ DI+++ D++ G++>G+++ e h+ r* y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Ensoniq PCI sound card
by roberto＠cbvcp.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

A while back I posed a question of how to get my sound card, an ensoniq audio pci sound card, to run in linux. there was a $20 fee you had to pay (please, no more wars over that). I would look in the old files, but I have overwritten my linux drive a couple times since then. I would appreciate it if someone would tell me where to look for this. -- Aaron Seelye <A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto"><A HREF="http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A">http://revolution.3-cities.com/~roberto</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] upgrading tcl/tk
by mperry＠basin.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

I am running SuSE 5.1 and would like to upgrade the tcl/tk stuff. What exactly do I need to do to get there? I see a bunch of rpm files and I also see something called tcl new and tk new on the dist cd. One of the rpm web sites has a whole bunch of this stuff. Thanks. -- Michael E. Perry mperry(a)basin.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Linux and NDS connections
by tkelley＠ix.netcom.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

Hi all, I apologize for sending this mistakenly to another thread. Of well. I know this is a little off topic, but I cannot find a utility to connect to a Netware 4x server for Linux anywhere. I know there's ncpfs, but that is for bindery connections and it kicks me off after a few minutes and won't let me mount any volumes again until I reboot. Is there any way one can connect and administer a netware 4x server from Linux? I've heard that Caldera has some advanced utilities, but I can't find them anywhere on their web site. I'd be willing to pay if it meant I didn't have to be in Windoze to administer my netware server. Tim Kelley <tkelley(a)ix.netcom.com> New Orleans, LA "What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Apache question
by satan3＠home.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

If I access my website or any of it's pages, the url is tasteslikechicken.ml.org/blah.html but if I access a dir that isn't the httpd root directory, or /usr/local/httpd/htdocs, then my domain name changes, for example, if I am at tasteslikechicken.ml.org, and I go to tasteslikechicken.ml.org/files, I end up at hell.home.com/files. This only occurs if I am accessing something that isn't physically located in /usr/local/httpd/htdocs. I have looked through all of my httpd and named configuration files, and nothing has jumped out and bit me. Any ideas why this is and if I can change it so that my domain is the same no matter what you access through http? -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Redhat strikes a blow against advocacy
by satan3＠home.com 21 Jul '98

21 Jul '98

This from irc.slashdot.org today: <Ronin> i have a copy of SuSE i need to give to someone, know any good candidates? <scoop> Ronin: don't give it to someone you're friends with <Ronin> why is that? <scoop> s/he'll hate you after installing it part®scoop!scoop(a)road-kill.redhat.xn--com -ewc from #whee For someone with a Redhat domain, that is a pretty lame statement to make. And I don't care, if you're going to irc and your host is redhat.com, you need to be a good representative for redhat or it makes Redhat look bad. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] SuSE in Linux Journal
by satan3＠home.com 20 Jul '98

20 Jul '98

The August Linux Journal just showed up in my mailbox, and SuSE is mentioned favorably in an article by Phil Hughes, "Selecting a Linux Distribution". If you have any interest at all in linux, Linux Journal is a great read. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] more SuSE in Linux Journal
by satan3＠home.com 20 Jul '98

20 Jul '98

Not just a mention in the article I posted about, there's a dedicated article about XSuSE and a brief history of SuSE's involvement and their contributions to Xfree. Way to go guys, it's nice seeing SuSE get some well deserved press! -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] lynx
by sodah＠qatar.net.qa 20 Jul '98

20 Jul '98

hi when i tried to run lynx, i got following msg: 'Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host!' after lynx closed with the msg: 'lynx: Can't access startfile <A HREF="http://lynx.browser.org/"><A HREF="http://lynx.browser.org/</A">http://lynx.browser.org/</A</A>>' how do i get lynx running? which modification should i do? thx -fadi - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web graphics.
by schullersite＠worldnet.att.net 20 Jul '98

20 Jul '98

-----Original Message----- From: Michael Lankton <satan3(a)home.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Web graphics. > >Ken, most of these monkeys don't know what lynx is, much less care. Hehe- preaching to the choir, Michael. :) A little background on me: I learned my chops on PC's, starting with DOS+Win 3.X machines in the USAF- 386's thru Pentiums over the course of about six years. I played around on a RS/6000 for a bit at the very tail end of my enlistment, but I had never played with *nix before, so it was pretty much, "How do you list directories again?" for me. I never did any kind of work in *nix before three or four months ago. However, I was a Webmaster for the last three years of my USAF career, and got enough slams from *nix Web surfers in the early days (Netscape was V0.9 BETA, to give you an idea of the time when I started doing HTML <g>) about using the ALT attribute to make it automatic for me. So how did I learn it? As a Web zealot with NO *nix experience. How did I fall into Linux? Like many Linux users, I got totally frustrated with M$ kludgeware that was inconsistent, buggy, and crash prone (I'll slap the next person that tells me NT4 with the service packs is anything more than a classic example of this...), and bought a Power Mac for my first home computer (I was using Wintel machines at the office) because at that point in time, as a budding Web designer, all the most appealing Web sites were being designed on Macs and hosted on *nix servers. I didn't really get frustrated with the Mac for the same reasons I did with Wintel- they're not NEARLY as crash-prone as the M$ zealots would have you believe- esp if you don't try to administer them like they're Wintel boxes, which they're not. The thing I saw happening with the Mac was a combination of my frustration with not being able to procure software without going mail-order or having to engage in inane chats with "3LeEt" "wArEz" "dOoDz", and Apple's utterly inept, clueless, devoid of testosterone management- which hopefully Jobs is turning back around. (And yes, I'm damned excited about OS X, if and when it ever makes it to prime-time.) So where else to turn? For professional development (I went to a tech college rather than a conventional university, so I had no access to a *nix box any other way), learning *nix was certainly a valuable skill, and I liked the idea that 900f what I use a computer for could be done on an operating system where uptime was more than an eventual goal. :) >Most people, if they even know what linux/unix is, think it's dos, >because to the unsophisticated pc user a command line interface=dos, >they have no concept. None. My mom is the average pc user, and she's >thrilled to be able to read email in her aol browser, anything beyond >that is gravy ;) They got YOUR mom, too? :) Hehehe. Friggin AOL- the cheap, narrow lots in the great trailer park we call Cyberspace... > >Ken Schuller wrote: > >> Depending on whether or not I a.) have the time and b.) and in a good enough >> mood, I'll take a capture from one of the Lynx websites (basically a CGI >> that you feed a URL to, and in turn it renders a HTML file, displayed in >> your browser window showing a mockup of the Lynx display) and e-mail it to >> the Webmaster with a comment like, "This is what your page looks like in >> Lynx." > >-- >==================================================================== > Michael Lankton > <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> >==================================================================== >- >To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with >this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] True type fonts
by satan3＠home.com 20 Jul '98

20 Jul '98

In addition to following Dee's excellent instructions for setting up true type fonts for x, I find that the easiest way to start and shut down the ttf server is to: 1. add the line "/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt &" to your /sbin/init.d/random just before it exits. That way starting xfstt is the last thing that happens before you get a login prompt. Adding it to /sbin/init.d/boot.local starts xfstt too early. 2. add the line "killall xfstt" to /sbin/init.d/halt.local, this way xfstt & doesn't get exec'd again at halt, keeping /usr from being umounted. 3. add the line "xset fp+ unix/:7100" to your .xinitrc Now the true type font server is there when you need it, and you never have to give it a second thought after you set it up the first time. Hope this is helpful. -- ==================================================================== Michael Lankton <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org</A</A>> ==================================================================== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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