----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Harrison <ed.harrison(a)verizon.net>
To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2008 5:37:38 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] How to set up the wireless connection for TeleCom router
Maura Monville wrote:
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ed Harrison <ed.harrison(a)verizon.net>
> To: opensuse(a)opensuse.org
> Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2008 2:43:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] How to set up the wireless connection for TeleCom router
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> Maura Monville wrote:
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>> I have a router connected to the Windows computer but bot the Linux and the Mac are connected wireless.
>> Let's solve the first problem for now. That is, how shall I tell the Linux/SuSE computer about the new TeleCom router replacing the D-Link one ?
>> Somehow I have to provide both the wireless computers with the router ID and the key (password) ... anything else ?
>>
>> Thank you so much,
>> Maura
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> The easiest thing to try out of the box is to plug the D-Link into a
> port on the new TeleCom Gate 2 Plus and the digital phone unit into
> another one, if available.
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> TeleCom Gate 2 Plus comes wirh:
> - a port for ADSL
> - 3 Ethernet ports (Eth1, Eth2, Eth3)
> - another port bearing the name Eth4/STB (I have no idea what it is for),
> - a USB port
> - a power switch (usually routers do not have one. They are turned off by unplugging
> them)
> - a small button bearing the name "Reg",
> - the power plug.
>
> The D-Link has
> * a port for ADSL
> * 4 Etherner ports (named LAN1, LAN2, LAN3, LAN4)
> * a whole named "Reset"
> * the power plug
>
> In the current configuration there is
> 1. a cable going from the D-Link ADSL port to the ADSL filter plugged into the
> telephone jack.
> 2. an ethernet cable going from the D-Link LAN1 to the Windows PC Ethernet port.
>
> I guess what you are suggesting is a sort of cascade or serial connection for the two routers ??? However, it's a littel bit confusing to me which one of the two routers is to be connected to the ADSL filter in this new settings.
> How am I supposed to plug the D-Link into a port on the new TeleCom Gate 2 Plus ?
> Shall I connect the two router through an Ethernet cable going from D-Link LAN2 to GATE 2 Eth1 ???
> Of course GATE 2 must be connected to the power outlet.
> In this configuration the ADSL port of GATE 2 is not used at all. Am right ?
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> I have done this with FIOS. D-Link in one with all computer connections
> and Vonage digital phone into another. Both work flawlessly.
>
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> TeleCom digital phone, called Aladino, comes wit a base and a cordless phone.
> Are you suggesting me to plug Aladino base into GATE Eth2 ?
>
> Is the ADSL signal band affected al all from this set-up? Shall I expect the signal power to drop because of the splitting ? I am a little bit concerned at getting an even slower download speed. It should be 7 Mb/s but it is actually only 1.8 Mb/s.
> I formally complained with TeleCom. They state this is due to the old cables, carrying the signal, that need to be replaced with optic fiber
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> This may not solve the total problem, but if it works, it will minimize
> all the putzing around. The D-Link setup should remain the same.
>
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> If the intensity of the signal is not affected then the solution you suggested is ideal as it avoids reconfiguring badically all my systems: WIndows, Linux, and Mac.
> If I got it right then D-Link would still be the only router. While GATE 2 would just be an appendix geared to provide VoIP (digital phone) communication with Aladino
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> If it doesn't work (i.e. there is only one ethernet port on the
> TeleCom), try the phone device between the Telecom and the D-Link. Or,
> the D-Link between the Telecom and the phone device.
>
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> Aladino (VoIP communication) won't work directly with D-Link. This is a commercial constraint used by Internet providers to force users to buy all equipments carrying the same brand name.
>
> Thank you very much.
> Maura
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> Ed
>
I need a little more clarification.
1- The connector on the Aladino phone is a Ethernet plug, not a phone
cable?
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I checked. The base of Aladino phone (called VoIP) is provided with:
* a power cable
* a telephone jack to plug into the wall phone outlet
* a telephone cable connecting Aladino base with the telephone jack
This kind of connection is used to operate Aladino as a regular analogic phone
If Aladino is used as a digital phone then its base should not be connected to the telephone jack but only to the power outlet for recharging Aladino battery.
In this modality Aladino must be registered as a mobile phone. By pressing Aladino menu button a list of available DECT bases should appear on its display. A base has to be selected from the displayed list. Then on the registration procedure must be activated through pressing the button "Mobile Search" on Aladio VoIP base for roughly 5 seconds until The VoIP LED turns green and flashing.
A preselected PIN must be entered on Aladino phone that will search for the new base. It should be able to find the base previously selected from the list and visualize its identifier to confirm the successful registration. Then the phone number we were given should be set up through Aladino menu services. This ends Aladino configuration. From here onward we should be able to use Aladino in digital modality.
All the other settings are custumizations pertinent to SMS messages, the answering machine, and so on.
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2- There is not a phone-out plug on the Gate 2?
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TeleCom Gate 2 has a port named ADSL which is actually a phone-out plug.
Gate 2 box includes:
° an ADSL filter that is to be connected to the phone jack
° a phone cable to connect the ADSL filter with Gate 2 ADSL port
° an Ethernet cable that (I guess) is to connect the PC Ethernet port with
one of Gate 2 Ethernet ports. For instance Eth1
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3- Confirm that the ADSL port on the Gate 2 is for a telephone cable,
not for an Ethernet cable.
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Correct ! See above
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If I understood that the phone only has an Ethernet plug and the ADSL
port on the Gate 2 is for a telephone cable, then this should set it up.
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Actually Aladino base only has a power plug and a phone plug. It comes with a power cable and a phone cable to be connected to the phone jack only to use Aladino as a analog phone (no digital Voice)
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1- Connect wall jack to ADSL port on Telecom Gate 2.
2- In most cases, an ADSL filter with 1 outlet is used only between
the wall and a regular telephone to keep ADSL data "noise" out of phone
conversations. If your filter has 1 outlet, it doesn't sound like you
will need a filter with this new setup. If the filter has 2 outlets,
make sure you use the ADSL side for you Gate 2 connection. OR, since
you will no longer have a regular phone, it may work just as well with
NO filter. The filter is primarily for the telephone.
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The ADSL filter has has 2 outlets. One is marked "ADSL" and the other one "Telephone"
I will use it because we want to keep the old analog phone as well.
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3- DHCP server at Telecom's end will assign an IP address to the Gate 2.
4- D-Link will be connected to Gate 2 ETH-x and will receive an IP
address from the DHCP server in the Gate 2.
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So the chain is:
Phone-jack ==> Gate 2 ==> D-Link ==> PC Ethernet port ???
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5- The Aladino phone will be connected to ETH-x on the Gate 2 to
enable VOIP.
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Neither Aladino mobile phone nor Aladino base is provided with an Ethernet port.
Aladino base is provided with a telephone port
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6- The computers will connect 1 to the D-Link ETH-x and 2 via wireless
connection and receive IP addresses from the DHCP server in the D-Link.
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Gate 2 comes with a card that has to be inserted into the proper Gate 2 slit.
The paper sheet, to which sucha card is glued, explains that such a card carries the following hard-coded parameters for activating the nectwork connections:
Rete Wi-Fi (SSID): Alice-xxxxxxxx
WPA key: yyyy yyyy yyyy yyyy yyyy yyyy
WEP key: zzzz zzzz zzzz z
Shall I inser such a card into Gate 2 anyway ?
I am afraid Gate 2 won't work otherwise. There is also a CD installation guide.
In addition, it is stated that if the user' s computers are already connected to another Alice (TeleCom ADSL service name) modem, the user should keep the parameters indicated in the currently used Alica card (the old one) in order to keep his Wi-Fi network connections.
Of course TeleCom does not conceive that the user might have a modem, like D-Link, which is not from TeleCom ! Nevertheless, such a statement confirms that if there is already another router providing a wireless connection that the user should be able to keep it ... am I right ?
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Possible problem:
The Gate 2 and the D-Link are both routers.
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They both provide Ethernet and wireless connections.
This is what a router does, doesn't it ?
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For some unknown reason
most routers are set to default to the same base IP address:
192.168.1.1. The Gate 2 and the D-Link may have this problem. Check
both to ensure they are different, usually in the third number. I had
to change my D-Link from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.10.1 to avoid conflicts.
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How can I check that ?
On SuSE I ise the command "ifconfig" as superuser.
I just tried and recognized the wireless is called "eth0" on Linux and its inet address is: 192.168.1.4
On Mac the if config command prints out a lot more information. I can see 4 data block each one relative to: en0, en1, en2,en3
In the data block starting with "en1" the inet address is: 192.168.1.3
On en0,en2,en3 the inet address starts with 10 or 127 .. I have no idea what it may be.
The problem is that D-Link is connected through the Ethernet cable to the Windows PC. I am not a WIndows user other than when I have to usw PowerPoint or Word.
I ignore how to get the IP address data out of a Windows system
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I they are the same, it will be best to see if you can change the Gate 2
DHCP server, since your computers are already set up to talk to the
D-Link just as it is now.
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I have no idea how to do that. Espacielly through a Windows PC ...
On Yast (Linux) I an see that there is a DHCP section to configure the network cards.
But with WIndows ... ?
D-Link is connected to the Windows PC which does not have a wireless card.
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Ed
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Thank you so much,
Maura
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