May 2007 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial - US penitentiary????????????? NO NO NO
by Pueblo Native 15 May '07

15 May '07

Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Pueblo Native <pueblonative(a)opensuse.us> [05-14-07 23:13]: > >> Patrick Shanahan wrote: >> >>> * M Harris <harrismh777(a)earthlink.net> [05-14-07 16:47]: >>> [...] >>> >>> >>>> Anyway, you could setup a filter for [opensuse][OT] and just send them >>>> to /dev/null and not worry about it. As long as the message is either >>>> directed to the off-topic list, or at least flagged [OT] then I dont see a >>>> problem... but thats just me. >>>> >>>> >>> So, if I don't see the guy raping the girl across the street, it's ok, >>> but that's just you ?? >>> >>> >>> >> Okay, would you like to take a moment to examine how retarded that >> statement is, or would you like us to do it for you? >> > > > You do as YOU please. You seem to take that avenue anyway. JUST put > it into the proper forum, not the "technical" forum, opensuse. > > Coming from somebody who has known rape victims in the past, for you to compare ignoring OT threads with ignoring a victim crying out for help from sexual assault is incomprehensible at best and borders on the obscene at worst. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007
by Jan Karjalainen 15 May '07

15 May '07

Dave Howorth wrote: > Jan Karjalainen wrote: > >> S Glasoe wrote: >> >>> On Monday May 14 2007 10:08:29 pm frank nelson wrote: >>> >>>> Only fair. It would be a bit hypocritical to demand a standard >>>> for others, that one does not demand of oneself. >>>> >>> Ah that'd be Microsoft Marketing 101 just down the hall second door >>> on the right. >>> >> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1729908,00.asp >> > > Did you look at the date on this article and the date in the subject line? > > Yes, but the quote (snip below) does stands as true, even if it's a couple of years old. "the OSRM study, which found that Linux potentially, not definitely, infringes 283 untested patents, while not infringing a single court-validated patent." -- I'd really like to lay one across your teeth. -- Beverly -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] mythtv dvb cards
by michael norman 15 May '07

15 May '07

Hi I.m looking for a DVB tv card that will work with openSUSE 10.2. The openSUSE mythtv howto suggests some that should work http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Opensuse_10.2#DVB.2C_the_Digital_TV_Ca…. Following previous threads on mythtv I have tried samples of the Hauppage Nova-T and the Leadtek LR6650/ DTV1000 - DVBT PCI, neither of which would work despite despite the statement on the howto that they should. I tried installing both the the dvb packages from openSUSE and the dvb tools from linuxtv. The Hauppage sample I tried worked with Windows XP but was only detected by SUSE as a usb device. The Leadtek sample was not detected by SUSE at all, and I didn't try it in XP. I only have XP for my son's gaming. and never use it myself, so what I want is a card that works with SUSE. I've read lots of stuff about all these cards, chipsets etc and I'm not sure whether the cards I've tried match up with the ones that should work. My question is twofold : Can anybody point me towards a card that will work ? And in UK can you give me a source as to what to buy ? TIA Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007
by James Knott 15 May '07

15 May '07

There was some recent discussion on this list about MS claims of patent infringement and someone claimed they hadn't done so recently. >From the "Suse, M$ and Dell" thread. "Nope, I don't need recent cites. Until retracted >> Ballmers >> statments stand as official Microsoft Policy. >> >> Therefore the onus is on you to find a retraction. >> > > You made a statement that by it's nature is deemed > false if you can not substantiate it. There is no onus > on me to do anything. If you refuse to substantiate, > or retract, I can only conclude that you knew the > statement was false, yet made it anyway, making you a > liar, and no more to be believed than Mr. Ballmer. > > As it now stands, you have no credibility whatever, > and I see no reason to continue any discussion with > you, on any matter whatever. > Well, you might want to read this article and consider the claims substantiated. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/ -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Compile fails
by Stuart Murray-Smith 15 May '07

15 May '07

Hi list I'm trying to compile USB drivers for an slmodemd, on a 32 bit arch (SuSE 10.0). Compile fails, reporting error: gcc -o slmodemd modem_main.o modem_cmdline.o modem.o modem_datafile.o modem_at.o modem_timer.o modem_pack.o modem_ec.o modem_comp.o modem_param.o modem_debug.o homolog_data.o dp_sinus.o dp_dummy.o dsplibs.o sysdep_common.o /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: warning: i386 architecture of input file `dsplibs.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output which implies 64 bit-emulated failure? Compile is successful on my development box, which has all packages installed. This leads me to think that it's an RPM which hasn't been installed on the production box. Is it a 64 bit C/C++ package that's missing? Please advise :-) TiA, and have a great day! Regards, Stu@ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] PCMCIA WiFi card recommendations?
by Clayton 15 May '07

15 May '07

I am trying to help out a friend with his migration to Linux. One problem we're having is his current PCMCIA wireless card. It's quite an obscure brand only released in the Netherlands, and it's not co-operating with ndiswrapper (it even has limited driver support beyond Win98). So... we're thinking of taking the easy way out and just replacing it with a new PCMCIA card (USB is possible, but the preference is for PCMCIA). Does anyone have any recommendations for a PCMCIA based wireless card that is dead easy to use? - ie it is effectively working "out of the box" without having to recompile the kernel, build kernel modules etc etc etc. I know there are some out there.. like the Intel 2100 chipset in Centrino laptops... but this isn't a Centrino laptop. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Problems with serial printer
by George Osvald 15 May '07

15 May '07

I have a serial receipt printer connected to my server. Printing System is CUPS on SuSe 10.2. Until upgrade it was working OK. Since then how ever I often get this message: "Unable to open serial port device file "/dev/ttyS0": Permission denied" from CUPS. I have to play with it a little set up the printer again and it works for a while. Then it stops working again. How do I make it working permanently? -- Regards, George Osvald OK Studio ® http://www.okstudio.com.au Email: mail(a)okstudio.com.au -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: Compile fails [solved]
by Stuart Murray-Smith 15 May '07

15 May '07

Oh dear. Turns out that the production box is 64 bit-installed. Off to format && reinstall 32 bit :-) L8r, Stu@ On 5/15/07, Stuart Murray-Smith <eight32(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi list > > I'm trying to compile USB drivers for an slmodemd, on a 32 bit arch > (SuSE 10.0). Compile fails, reporting error: > > gcc -o slmodemd modem_main.o modem_cmdline.o modem.o modem_datafile.o > modem_at.o modem_timer.o modem_pack.o modem_ec.o modem_comp.o > modem_param.o modem_debug.o homolog_data.o dp_sinus.o dp_dummy.o > dsplibs.o sysdep_common.o > > /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: > warning: i386 architecture of input file `dsplibs.o' is incompatible > with i386:x86-64 output > > which implies 64 bit-emulated failure? > > Compile is successful on my development box, which has all packages > installed. This leads me to think that it's an RPM which hasn't been > installed on the production box. Is it a 64 bit C/C++ package that's > missing? > > Please advise :-) > > TiA, and have a great day! > > Regards, > > Stu@ > -- Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] samba & adding users on the fly
by Jack Malone 15 May '07

15 May '07

>From time to time I have to add users to the samba server during the work day. What I do now is after adding them to linux user then going an adding them to samba user via webmin an setting their password, I then have to restart samba server to make the changes take effect. I have to get all users to close out all files on samba server before I do this. Is there a way to reset samba so that the new user is added that I do not have to get all the other users to get off so that all open files are closed. It would be nice to just do this without having to get everything to close out all open files on the network. I hope this makes sense to you. Thanks Jack Malone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: What's the point with 64 bit
by Joachim Schrod 15 May '07

15 May '07

M Harris wrote: > Although the analogy is going to be a little contrived, its something like > the concept of cylinders in an internal combustion engine... there were cars > made back in the 30s-50s with 10, 12, and 16 cylinders... but due to > harmonics, balance, and other issues (8) seems to be the best (optimum) > number of cylinders. Interesting (I suppose, North-American) view. Here in Europe, most cars have 4 cylinders, some have 6, and 8 is very rare to find. But then, our gas prices are much higher than yours. ;-) > my > gut feeling is that 32 bit width is going to be optimum and that 64 bit is > the beginning of the end of no returns. I mean if PCs really ever do need to > have more than 4gig of real storage/virtual storage then.. .maybe. There is a reason: virtual machines. The need to have >3GB arises fast if one runs several virtual machines, not only as sub-systems on servers but also on workstations; e.g., as test environments or to have multiple compile/packaging environments, etc. For instance, I have several Windows VMs (2000/XP/Server), Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat, FreeBSD, and Solaris 10 VMs on my workstation. Memory is the main constraining factor, as I don't use these VMs all at the same time. They are there to test something in this environment, or to look up difference, or to compile and package some software in its native environment. (Some of them represent customer environments, but that's a different topic.) Also, when one wants to have ONE of these VMs as 64bit, the host system must be 64bit as well. Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help(a)opensuse.org

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