June 2003 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SLE] good sound cards for linux?
by Tim Dickinson 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

I'm in australia so around the $50 to $100 mark i want Dolby Digital and Direct DVD sound support - so i can have qulaity sound from my DVD's. > > having decided not to chase up drivers for my VIA8233 chipset through >ALSA - > > i am going to purchase a new sound card - What do you all think is the >best? > > - nothing overly expensive. > > > > Tim. > >Still using my Sb Live! Value card here, but not sure if its still >available. > >What price range are you looking for? > >Matt > > >-- >Check the headers for your unsubscription address >For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com >Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

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Evolution 1.4 Help (THANKS TO ALL)
by William Westfall 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Finally got evolution behaving like a gem. Thanks to all for the help. Updating all the dependancies did the trick. This is a truely professional program, someone should port it to windows. LOL Again thanks to ALL!

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KGPG and evolution encryption - more info
by Bill Jarrett 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

If I quit the kgpg applet, and then run it in a console, I get the following output from the launch, encryption, and decryption of the clipboard: bill@linux:~> kgpg gpg: WARNING: using insecure memory! gpg: please see http://www.gnupg.org/faq.html for more information gpg: WARNING: using insecure memory! gpg: please see http://www.gnupg.org/faq.html for more information bill@linux:~> QObject::connect: No such slot KgpgApp::slotTip() QObject::connect: (sender name: 'help_tipofday') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'editor') gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session gpg: can't query password in batchmode gpg: Invalid passphrase; please try again ... gpg: can't query password in batchmode gpg: Invalid passphrase; please try again ... gpg: can't query password in batchmode gpg: encrypted with 1024-bit ELG-E key, ID E983FC8E, created 2003-06-12 "Bill Jarrett (test) <wfjarrett(a)earthlink.net>" gpg: public key decryption failed: bad passphrase gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session gpg: Sorry, no terminal at all requested - can't get input gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session gpg: Sorry, no terminal at all requested - can't get input gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session gpg: Sorry, no terminal at all requested - can't get input

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Evolution GUI fonts under KDE
by David Krider 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Is there any way to get a Gnome2 app, like Evolution, to come up with the right theme and fonts under KDE? Things _work_ just fine under KDE, but they all come up with default colors, themes, and fonts. I can then run gnome-control-center, choose something to change their appearance, and everything immediately goes to what I had set under XD2. I'd rather be able to cut out this step every time I log in. Thanks, dk

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8.2 or Enterprise server 8?
by Joe Dufresne 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have (mentioned earlier) a 66mhz server. I haven't been able to even determine if it runs, or has software on it, but i was planning to upgrade the software anyhow. this will be use as the server/router/firewall for my home network, plus i'vce toyed with the idea of setting up an isp. which is the better choice? - -- SuSE Linux 8.1 (i386) Kernal: 2.4.19-4GB / i686 | Posted from: Miverna ~ 7:58pm up 16 days, 2:31, 18 users, load average: 0.36, 0.29, 0.14 nqs(a)tmcom.com | http://tigger.tmcom.com/~nqs/blogger.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+5+05oS1S7SxfpzwRAiMzAJ48q7HvThSlj+RnrqwEU7CQnQoubwCfSLXS C2v3kBcRIdeHeH9QUKO171c= =Bfqz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [SLE] Darl McBride doesn't understand Linux (OT)
by Fred A. Miller 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

On Wednesday June 11 2003 7:05 pm, you wrote: > On Wednesday 11 June 2003 01:16 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > "I was an IKON employee during Darl's (brief) stint there as VP. His > > bio mentions the revenues and employees of the Tech Services > > division. What is doesn't mention (but I will) is that he drove it > > into the ground financially and chased all the good employees off. > > When he was "let go", guess what he did -- yup, he sued IKON." > > > > What a schmuck!" > > > > http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/06/02/2246228 > > This doesn't sound like an "understand linux" issue, it sounds like a > Dilbert issue. ;-) Hehehehehehe.....very good! Fred -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft®. We have no bugs in our software, Never!, We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost, to you, at this time.

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The BBC gets it right once in a while(OT)
by Fred A. Miller 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2980936.stm "It could become like a red rag to a bull," said said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at anti-virus firm Sophos. "There is already an obsession with Microsoft in the virus writing community and this could encourage people to write viruses to try and subvert it," he said. Many of Mr Cluley's customers were surprised by Microsoft's decision to enter the anti-virus market, he said. "People think it is ironic that they could be getting fixes from the company that built the problems into the software in the first place," he said. In the mid-nineties Microsoft had a brief flirtation with an anti-virus product which it bundled with the Windows operating system. "It was a disastrous flop and couldn't detect the viruses," said Mr Cluley. -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft®. We have no bugs in our software, Never!, We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost, to you, at this time.

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Evolution 1.4.0 Settings crash
by James Ogley 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Those who found that trying to open settings on Evolution 1.4.0 caused a crash should make sure they have the latest gal2-0, gtkhtml3.0 and libsoup packages from my site, as they were all updated when Evolution was. Doing this fixed it for me. -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james(a)rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter(a)myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2). GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org

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Evolution 1.4 - not working very well
by Tom Nielsen 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

I'm having the same problem with 1.4 as I did 1.3.92. Going from folder to folder is REALLY slow! I mean 3 seconds or so. Also my calendar doesn't work. No matter where I click...no calendar. Also resizing the screen and other screen movements are jerky and slow. Other than that, it starts really fast and everything else "seems" to work. Maybe I had a bad beta install. I just installed over it. How would I uninstall 1.4? Will it banish my current emails and addresses? I installed via Synaptic with ULB files...thanks James! (I don't hold you responsible). Tom - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

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Fujitsu FDX310 ADSL USB Modem
by Justino Madariaga 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Dear Listees I am running Suse 8.2 in an Athlon PC. I want to connect to my Broadband ISP with the above modem. Can Anybody tell me where can I get the right drivers for it. PS. Sometime ago I found the drivers for the Red Hat 7.2 version somewhere in the Net, but could'nt find them for Suse 8.2. Please help Justino Madariaga j.madariaga(a)onetel.net

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LINUX GETTING MORE VIABLE ON THE DESKTOP
by Fred A. Miller 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

LINUX GETTING MORE VIABLE ON THE DESKTOP (Source: InfoWorld.com) Features such as virtual desktops and solid e-mail clients help to make Linux desktops viable for business. http://www.linuxworld.com/go.cgi?id=742196 -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm(a)cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org

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How do I backup evolution 1.2.4?
by Tom Nielsen 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

I am going to take the plunge and try 1.4. Can I backup all my current folders and settings in such a way that if 1.4 acts badly (like it does at home) that I can restore 1.2.4? If so, which folders should I back up? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

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Dear Steve: Time for Microsoft Linux?(OT)
by Fred A. Miller 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2913989,00.html -- Powered by SuSE Linux 8.2 Pro & KMail 1.5.1 Never forget: At Microsoft, the engineering department are the Ferengi... The marketing and legal departments are the Borg!

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XD2 Screensaver
by Matthew Johnson 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Running smoothly here, very nice desktop..But hard to say why its nice :). For those running XD2 (on SuSE 8.2) do you have an icon setting for the Screensaver under System, Personal Settings? I do not have that setting on two separate SuSE 8.2 machines. It can be launched via the terminal with this command: screensaver-properties-capplet But would be nice to have it on the GUI. Thanks, Matt

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Transferring links from KDE to Gnome2
by Tom Nielsen 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

I'd like play around with Gnome a bit, but I want to make sure my desktop links and menu items are available in Gnome. Is there any way to do this other than to set them up within Gnome? Can I copy and paste something somewhere? Thanks, Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com

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Darl McBride doesn't understand Linux (OT)
by Fred A. Miller 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

"I was an IKON employee during Darl's (brief) stint there as VP. His bio mentions the revenues and employees of the Tech Services division. What is doesn't mention (but I will) is that he drove it into the ground financially and chased all the good employees off. When he was "let go", guess what he did -- yup, he sued IKON." What a schmuck!" http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/06/02/2246228 -- Planet Earth - a subsidiary of Microsoft®. We have no bugs in our software, Never!, We do have undocumented added features, that you will find amusing, at no added cost, to you, at this time.

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All your Linux and Novell antivirus are belong to us, Microsoft(OT)
by Fred A. Miller 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

"The press release doesn't bode well for current Gecad customers using Linux, mainframe or Novell solutions: "GeCAD will continue to expand its services and security business and develop new non antivirus related technologies and software solutions."" <http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9944> -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm(a)cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org

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Help on Apache2 and PHP4 in SuSE Pro 8.2
by Anders Norrbring 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Hi everybody! I'm trying to install Apache2 together with PHP4 and phpMyAdmin on my new SuSE Pro 8.2 server, but so far - no luck.. I use the standard installation options in Yast2 when I do a absolute fresh install on the computer and I've got the "Auto check dependencies" on. So, I thought all was well after marking up Apache2, PHP4 and phpMyAdmin and correlating modules as suggested by Yast2. But no... The server doesn't even understand that PHP4 is installed after what it seems to me, if I try to access a .php page, it insists on sending me the page as a download file instead of interpreting it and sending the output. Does anyone know the reason/solution to this, or is it a clear case of calling support? Later, Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting

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SUSE 8.2 can't set up recognized scanner
by M. Fioretti 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Greetings, I have installed SUSE 8.2 professional on an IBM T21 laptop. I have an UMAX Astra 610S scanner connected through ADAPTEC SCSI PCMCIA card. The card works, cdrecord -scanbus says: scsibus0: 0,3,0 3) removable JAZ disk 0,5,0 5) UMAX ASTRA 610 S scanner sane-find-scanner says: found SCSI scanner "UMAX Astra 610S V1.3" at /dev/sg1 that device, however, is accessible only to root, and there is also no link to /dev/scanner. The result is that neither Kooka nor the GIMP can see the device. I know how to fix things manually, ie making links, changing permissions, establishing groups, and so on. My actual questions are: why didn't SUSE fix all this by itself (Red Hat 9 on the same box did, I could scan as normal user from the GIMP right away) Is there a SUSE GUI based way to "install" the scanner for normal users? Something which I can recomend to nebies coming to Linux for the first time? TIA, Marco Fioretti -- Marco Fioretti m.fioretti, at the server inwind.it Red Hat for low memory http://www.rule-project.org/en/ Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards. Aldous Huxley

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Strange NFS - Kmail interraction
by Dylan 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Hi All, Kmail shows some strange behaviour when I have my home directory mounted via nfs: I fire up Kmail, and d/load the mail queue (say 50 messages). After reading them they are all marked as read - just as you'd expect. Ten minutes later, Kmail autochecks for mail and some more (3 say) turn up. All of a sudden, it reports 53 unread mails - the ones I read before are now marked unread! Once the mails are marked read, compacting the folder makes the marking 'stick'. This does not happen when I am logged in at the machine where my home directory is local. That is - the machine in my office, which I use most of the time, holds my home directory and Kmail functions fine. It also exports my home directory, but when I log on to another machine I get the problem above. Kmail is storing mails as maildir format. The filesystem in exported with these options: rw,no_root_squash,sync,no_wdelay,no_all_squash I added the sync and no_wdelay in an attempt to solve the problem (thought it might be a timeout problem or somesuch) but they made no difference. It is imported with: defaults,_netdev,sync The permissions are all OK. Any suggestions welcomed.. Cheers Dylan -- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg

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Scroll Mice & Trackball
by Peter B Van Campen 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Hello Everyone, I want to ask about general ways to setup XF86 4.3 in SuSE 8.2 to use the buttons on mice and trackballs that are a tad less main stream. I have seen SAX2's very limited selection of other than standard mice. Does a better database of mouse and trackball models exist? When you have a new pointing dev, is there a way to determine how X sees the device? For instance: Is there a utility that actually shows which buttons are being detected by X when the device is actuated? I have Googled around in the archives, but have only found 'folklore' type info. Such as "Use these options" x, y, Z" but no real info for detailed setup. I have a new Logitech MarbleMouse which has two large buttons and two small buttons symetrically arranged on either side of the trackball. In XP it is setup as follows: Left and right large buttons work in the standard way, 'select' and 'context' Left and right small buttons are 'page up' and 'page down' on pages that have content above and/or below what is visable. Clicking both large buttons together changes the cursor and rolling the ball now scrolls the window contents in the direction the ball is rolled. Is this beyond XF86? Any and all help appreciated! ............... PeterB p.s. Lenz and Curtis, Thanks but your XConfig entries are not right for this MarbleMouse -- -- Proud to use SuSE Linux since 5.2 Loving using SuSE Linux 8.2 May 2003, Munich, Germany ordered 15,000 Workstation Lic for SuSE 8.2, despite M$ cutting their bid to $0.10 on the Dollar This will be remembered MyBlog http://vancampen.org/blog/ --

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SuSE: Ballmer gives Linux 'credibility'
by Fred A. Miller 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

<http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-1015174.html> -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm(a)cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org

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Re: [SLE] Microsoft Vs. Linux Desktop Battle Heats Up
by Jeff Bankston 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

One of the things that is drawing me to Linux is the dramatically reduced disk space and memory needed for the OS, apps, utils, and everything else that I want to install under Linux. Unlike many on this list, I'm a neophyte about compiling stuff under Linux but not new to writing apps. I've written client/server, assembler, C, C++, and Fortran under Windows, and have no issue with rolling up my sleeves and getting dirty. But, I'm running into the same library problems as the professor whilst learning the ropes in Linux. But what I find (along with your comments) curious is that how much of this is going to result in a growing base of files to accomodate the various distros? If I need to install a program that is to run on Redhat and SuSE, but each distro has its own little quirks about required files, then the app now carries baggage for both distros. Hopefully, the app vendor's install routine is smart enough to install only what it needs for my distro, but that adds overhead for the developer to keep the needs separate. Make sense? My own little crystal ball was hoping to see one Linux kernal and also the next layer API, and folks write to that. This baselined kernal and APIs would be maintained by some central governing Linux body?? I'm not talking about Mr. Torvalds and the kernal, but something that addresses these very issues mentioned here instead of Redhat running out like it has. Just my 2 cents worth from a newbee..... -Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick LeRoy" <nleroy(a)cs.wisc.edu> Newsgroups: Suse.Linux-e To: <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Microsoft Vs. Linux Desktop Battle Heats Up > On Tuesday 10 June 2003 1:03 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote: > > If the package would include the necessary libraries to install and run, > > rather than being dependentant on what the distro may already come with, > > should resolve this issue. For the most part just about every package I > > have come across I could compile and execute on Mandrake, SuSE, Red Hat, > > Debian, and *BSD. There is only the matter of porting the libraries. > > Jonathan > > Sorry, but I ardently disagree here. This is what all the Windoze apps do, > and is IMHO what's been known to cause the DLL-hell that anybody whose ever > used windoze has battled too many times. > > Now, I suppose I might relax my position _if_ it could install these libs in a > non-shared (ie app specific) location. Instead of installing a different > libfoo.so in /usr/lib, package bar installed in, say, /opt/bar, and installed > /opt/bar/lib/libfoo.so and /opt/bar/bin/bar is a shell script that sets > LD_LIBRARY_PATH before starting the _real_ /opt/bar/bin/bar.bin. Even then, > however, I'd say this should only be done _when neccessary_. > > -Nick > > > -- > Check the headers for your unsubscription address > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com > Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com >

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/dev/fd0 not accessible
by Dinesh R. Rele 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Hi , I am unable to access or mount /dev/fdo. I get the following error messages /dev/fd0 not a valid block device. /dev/fd0 No such file or address. /var/log/boot.msg and other relevnat details attached. Any guidance will be highly appreciated. Dinesh R. Rele

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Clean 9.0 Install - YaST problem
by Leslie Forrest 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Hi all, Today, I bit the bullet and installed SuSE 9.0 Pro and I now have an issue with YaST2 with the online update. I managed to complete the updates are the initial install and when the susewatcher went to re-check for updates, the following error occurred online_update -k -s Error while requesting servers: ERROR(You:Error writing youservers file.) The youservers file is present in /var/lib/YaST2/you. Can any-one help ? Best regards, Les

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