November 2000 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Getting a SuSE compatible computer
by j.e.drews＠worldnet.att.net 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

From: Jonathan Drews <j.e.drews(a)worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:41:24 -0600 Message-Id: <00112321490200.05234@linux> Subject: Getting a SuSE compatible computer A friend of mine would like to get a computer and install SuSE 7.0 on it. Could you folks please recommend suitable hardware. This person has not owned a PC before, however he uses Windows based PC's at work. a) What is a good video card? b) Are 3 COM external modems good? c) What type of hard drive will be recognized by YAST2's hard drive optimization program. d) What is a good sound card? The plan is to go to a computer dealer, who builds computers with the components you specify. Thanks in afvance for any suggestions.

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LSL 5 cdr set
by jel2＠earthlink.net 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

From: joe <jel2(a)earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:45:36 -0500 Message-Id: <0011211942160D.00420@-> Subject: LSL 5 cdr set I have seen a SuSE 7.0 5 cdr set at LSL for $9.95, anyone familiar with these as compared to the professional upgrade? thanks in advance, joe

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permissions for wmtune ?
by deem＠wdm.com 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

From: "W.D.McKinney" <deem(a)wdm.com> Message-Id: <200011241749.eAOHnSi00858(a)wdm.com> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:49:28 -0900 (AKST) Subject: permissions for wmtune ? In 7.0, wmtune is included. It's a premission setting needed to use under a user X setting. Anyone know what it should be ? Thanks /Dee

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kview stopped, needs linking
by f＠n.com 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:01:17 -0600 From: f <f(a)n.com> Message-id: <3A1E9EDD.AEFDBA98(a)computer.org> Subject: kview stopped, needs linking Kview stopped working for me. It gives the following message then has a segmentation fault when I load a jpeg. (The jpegs I tried work OK in the gimp.) > kview kview: Symbol `__vt_11KFileDialog.12QPaintDevice' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking kview: Symbol `__vt_11KFileDialog' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking <p>I have SuSE 6.3 with kernel 2.2.16 running xf86 4.01. I tried to load the kgraph source from the CDs. Yast says it is installed but I don't find it nor does yast show that it is an installed package. Any suggestions/guidance? Thanks!

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"funky url"'s
by zentara＠gypsyfarm.com 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

Message-ID: <3A19A2F9.6B6C856E(a)gypsyfarm.com> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:17:29 -0500 From: zentara <zentara(a)gypsyfarm.com> Subject: "funky url"'s Hi, This url changes normal urls into some number, yet it works. Anyone know what is happening? http://www.ibiblio.org/dbarberi/funky/

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Apache compiling - --prefix=/usr/sbin does not work - how to get apache working when compiling yourself
by Heupink＠INTECH.UNU.EDU 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

Message-ID: <1100D69203AAD2118E3C00508B8B9E8A17099D@INTECH002> From: "Heupink, Mourik Jan C." <Heupink(a)INTECH.UNU.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:26:24 +0100 Subject: Apache compiling - --prefix=/usr/sbin does not work - how to get apache working when compiling yourself Hello. Could someone tell me what is the fastest way to get the newest version of apache working on an older SuSE version. [6.2] Downloaded the source. Now i have to compile. Tried --prefix=/usr/sbin, but it does not work. Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance. mj

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RE: [SLE] SuSE Needs a "Guru Edition"! (was RE: [SLE] Upgrade worth it?)
by tbutler＠uninetsolutions.com 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

Glad to hear someone else feels the same way! It seems especially critical for SuSE to realize the need for this since broadband is becoming increasingly popular, and those of us who don't need $50 added to the price tag for books and support will be more likely to download in the future _unless_ there is a cheaper version with all of the power. Just my $0.02... -Tim PS: I believe I might signup for broadband soon, so I'll be all set for downloading it. However, as I said, if there was a cheap version with 6-CD's (what, less than $0.10 a piece) and a DVD without support or a manual - I'd pay for it. Anyone at SuSE or other users who feel the same? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler(a)uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" ===================== > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Wilson [mailto:wilson@claborn.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:15 AM > To: tbutler(a)uninetsolutions.com > Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE Needs a "Guru Edition"! (was RE: [SLE] Upgrade > worth it?) > > > Same here! I'd buy every single version if it would fall to $40 or > less. And I use the books less and less all the time, in fact I hardly > ever look at them now. They should just make the book available online > on their web site. > > JW > > At 07:48 PM 10/11/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi Tosi, > >> You don't think half a thought ? What of FOUR books ? For the price of SuSE > >> Linux 7.0 Pro > >> I get *ONE* book "for idiots" on Linux. What of the work of making a > > > > But, I don't need four books. That's fine, but I don't feel like shelling out > >$30 extra bucks every 4 months when all I want is the CD's. But, I > have no choice, > >the upgrade is just $10 less than the full thing at retail, and that > savings would > >be taken by the shipping and handling. > > Personally, for power users, I think SuSE should take RedHat's old > "Powertools" > >idea, and offer a version that is just 6-cds and 1 DVD, and perhaps a few page > >booklet that fits in the product's jewel case. Then stamp something between > >$20-$35 on the case and call it "SuSE 7.1 Guru Edition" or something like that. > > The fact is, I wouldn't mind buying ever single version of SuSE, but > I won't do > >it for $60-$70 a wack. However, if SuSE had that "Guru Edition", SuSE probably > >would probably have a higher profit margin on that version than the Pro edition > >(since it lacks manuals and support), and they would also sell more to "SOHO" > >users like myself. Infact, I probably won't buy another copy of SuSE > as it stands > >for at least a year and a half [can't justify $70 for small upgrades], but I'd > >gladly pay $25, say, for every version of the bookless version. > > Another benefit for SuSE on such a version would be the fact that > Broadband is > >increasingly popular. If I had broadband I would be inclined to just download > >SuSE, but I still might ***buy*** it if it's going for $25. > > > > Just my $0.02... > > > > -Tim > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks > >Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 > >ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller > >tbutler(a)uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com > >===================== "Solutions that Work" ===================== > > > > > > > >> USER-FRIENDLY install- > >> process ? That takes a large amount of work, and does cost a lot of money if > >> you're paying > >> someone to do it for you. And what about a supportline ? Slackware has to my > >> knowledge NONE, > >> and neither do *BSD ( not counting usenet and post-lists ) I think SuSE are > >> walking in the > >> middle of that narrow yellow-brick road between rough-cut ( Slackware etc ) > >> and overpriced > >> ( RedHat ), and doing so with style. > >> > >> -tosi > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Timothy R. Butler [mailto:tbutler@uninetsolutions.com] > >> Sent: 11. október 2000 22:24 > >> To: SuSE Mailing List > >> Subject: RE: [SLE] Upgrade worth it? > >> > >> > >> Hi there, > >> I thought I'd add a little something into my rant from last week. FreeBSD > >> is not > >> only cheaper but comes with 2,000 packages (the extra 6 CD's) on top of the > >> main > >> distribution packages (first 4 CD's). > >> Now, I can't attest to the quality or the ease-of-use of FreeBSD, nor would > >> I > >> want to switch from Linux, but that means two of the "other" guys (FreeBSD > >> along > >> with Slackware) both offer comparable amounts of stuff for less money. And, > >> if > >> ease of use is the excuse, once again, look at Windows ME Quick Jump for > >> Windows > >> 98 at just $49 (at stores). > >> > >> I'll quit ranting for now, but I still can't understand why SuSE is > >> suddenly > >> worth so much more (30-40 $ is a big big hike)... > >> > >> Still ranting at the fact that open source ain't cheap any more... > >> > >> -Tim > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks > >> Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 > >> ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller > >> tbutler(a)uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com > >> ===================== "Solutions that Work" ===================== > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Timothy R. Butler [mailto:tbutler@uninetsolutions.com] > >> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:11 PM > >> > To: SuSE Mailing List > >> > Subject: [SLE] Upgrade worth it? > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi again, > >> > I know, I know, I'm posting about the Upgrade pricing (again), but I was > >> > wondering if the Upgrade situation will improve. I noticed that on the web > >> site, > >> > SuSE Pro 7.0 Upgrade is $49.95 plus Shipping and Handling, however I've > >> seen the > >> > full release for only ten bucks more ($59). As you can figure, if you > >> > buy the full > >> > one for $59 at the store, you aren't going to save much (if any) buying > >> the > >> > upgrade for $49 + S&H. So my question is, once SuSE realizes that the > >> upgrade's > >> > price isn't saving anybody anything, and comes with _less_ than the > >> > full release, > >> > will they make the price more sensible? > >> > Before when I asked about prices, I know it was my opinion vs. someone > >> else's, > >> > but I don't understand this. I'm sure SuSE _knew_ that most stores > >> > would charge at > >> > least $10 less than MSRP (as usual), and yet they priced the upgrade high > >> enough > >> > that it is virtually useless to even offer here. Did anyone else notice > >> this? > >> > > >> > I might add, usually upgrades are a substantial price difference. If > >> nothing > >> > else, it would be nice if each version came with a coupon to upgrade for > >> $30-$40 > >> > to the next release (when released). That way new customers would pay the > >> full > >> > price, but loyal buy-every-version customers would get a deal. > >> > > >> > Case and point: > >> > > >> > MS Windows Millenium Edition ARP (Average Retail Pricing): $189 > >> > MS Windows Millenium Edition Upgrade ARP: $89.95 > >> > MS Windows Millenium Edition Quick Jump ARP: $49.95 > >> > > >> > As you can see, since Windows 98 to ME's features were nearly the > >> > same (similar > >> > to how SuSE 6.4 and 7.0 are nearly the same, from what I hear), > >> > Microsoft offered > >> > Windows 98 users (loyal buy-every-version customers) a really cheap > >> > version. Quick > >> > Jump retails for 1/4 of the full version's price, and nearly 1/2 of even > >> the > >> > upgrade's price. > >> > While it can be said this is different, it is not. Microsoft sees that > >> the > >> > difference between 98 and ME isn't enough to get everyone to pay even > >> > $89 for it, > >> > so they offer customers who have bought 98 or 98 SE a cheaper version. > >> > To me, this > >> > is ideal for Linux distros too, since generally there is little > >> > version-to-version > >> > change, but slow accumulative change. Enclosing an offer, as I said > >> before, > >> > allowing say 6.4 users-only to go to 7.0 for say $29-$39 would be great. > >> > > >> > Just my $0.02, adding up to over $1.00 since I've already thown in a lot > >> of > >> > $0.02 on the issue... > >> > > >> > -Tim > >> > > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks > >> > Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 > >> > ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller > >> > tbutler(a)uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com > >> > ===================== "Solutions that Work" ===================== > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > >> > For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > >> > Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > >> Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq > >> > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > >> Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > >For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com > >Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq > > -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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Re: [SLE] Network setup
by michael.long＠erols.com 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

From: "michael long" <michael.long(a)erols.com> Message-Id: <221100327.24847(a)webbox.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:54:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [SLE] Network setup The reason I have both a switch and hub is because I have computers in 2 separate parts of the house. Ultimately I want to have the setup shown below. I am starting out by establishing a connection between Zues and Apollo. I will get back to you with the output of ifconfig since I am not at home. What is Empire? ************* My Office ************************** Cable Modem | | Zues Athlon 800 IBM Thinkpad 380 Intell 486-66 SuSE 7.0 SuSE 7.0 SuSE 7.0 (Firewall) 192.168.100.1 255.255.255.0 | | | +-----------------+------Switch---------+ | ******* Wife's Office ***********|***************** | | +--------------Hub---+ | | Apollo Intell 233 IBM ThinkPad Win NT Win 2K 192.168.100.2 255.255.255.0 >--- Original Message --- >From: Matthew Johnson <matthew(a)psychohorse.com> >To: michael.long(a)erols.com >Date: 11/22/00 4:27:24 AM > >Hi Michael, > > Hopefully this will get to you. Can you provide us with IP >information for both hosts? And the output of ifconfig? I think its >ipconfig is the command used by the Empire? Maybe they are flashing, but >the packets are not being returned. Maybe they are conflicting with each >other in some way. What are there subnet masks? > >Also, why are you using a hub and a switch? MAybe just try the switch >alone, and/or the hub alone. > >Many thanks, > >Matthew > > > >Michael Long wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am new to networking and am creating a home network. I have a Linux box (SuSE 7.0) connected to a >> Windoze NT box through an SMC EZ Switch and 4 port hub. >> >> Linux NT >> |_____________Switch_________Hub__________| >> >> I can ping each machine individually so I believe the network cards are >> configured correctly. When I ping the NT machine from Linux I see the lights on >> the switch blink in unison but get no response. Do I need a crossover cable >> between the switch and the Linux box or is there something else that I am >> missing? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >> For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >> Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq > ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others!

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modem hangup
by fgs＠epulse.net 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

From: Francesco Scaglioni <fgs(a)epulse.net> Message-Id: <20001123193822X.fgs(a)epulse.net> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:38:22 GMT Subject: modem hangup Hi, When on dial up from home aot permanent at work (laptop) pppd often dies with error a modem hung up. How do I find out if it was mine or theirs? TIA Francesco

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Re: [SLE] IPX and Novell network
by jathomas＠gpm-law.com 24 Nov '00

24 Nov '00

Message-ID: <001001c05623$a790c260$470aa8c0(a)jathomas.gpm-law.com> From: "John A. Thomas" <jathomas(a)gpm-law.com> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:34:29 -0600 Subject: Re: [SLE] IPX and Novell network Arjen: Thanks for the tip. I didn't realize it was on the CD's. I'll try that. JT _________________________________________________________________ John A. Thomas Voice jathomas(a)gpm-law.com Glast, Phillips & Murray 972-419-8378 http://www.gpm-law.com 13355 Noel Rd., LB 48 Fax PGP and Verisign Keys Dallas, TX 75240-6657 972-419-8329 available. <p>-----Original Message----- From: Arjen Runsink <arjen(a)technologist.com> To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> Date: Thursday, November 23, 2000 4:16 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] IPX and Novell network <p>>I did not compile it but just installed it and that's it. It is on the CD's >you know. > >But maybe you configured and compiled the kernel yourself and forgot to put >in IPX/SPX and Novell file system support? > >BB, Arjen > > >On Monday 20 November 2000 15:20, John A. Thomas wrote: >> Does anyone have experience with getting the ncpfs package to work for >> connecting to a Novell network. I had this going with Suse 6.0, but I'm > >-- >To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com >Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq >

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