June 1998 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] thinking about suse
by hlarons＠mail.comcat.com 29 Jun '98

29 Jun '98

On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 01:30:57AM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote: > > > ... As for _general_ consumption, though, I don't think Linux (SuSE's > > or anyone else's) has a prayer vs MS. > > That all depends on how simple SuSE and others make the install, > administration etc. of ALL Linux, as well as ALL software providers! As > long as it just about takes an "act of Congress" to install a system, > sound drivers, fonts, printers, etc., etc., then you are correct. IF > the folks at SuSE and elsewhere get their act together, then Linux will > be Bill Gates WORST nightmare!! > > Fred I _promise_ that this will be my last note on this subject (uncrosses fingers). In theory, you're absolutely right. But your conclusion applies not only to installs but to the maintenance of the OS and apps as well. After all, most "mortal" users buy a box with Win95/98 preinstalled and preconfigured. They never touch the OS again. Their efforts to add a new printer or a new modem, etc. often end in utter disaster (been there, done that I'm ashamed to admit). If they're lucky, they have a techie friend (someone who has already been through an install) who can bail them out, or they turn to Usenet or (more likely) AOL. OK, you reply, Linux is the same situation. Well, not exactly. The user base isn't comparable, so I'm not likely to be able to turn to the techie next door. Leaves me with Usenet or this group--smart and helpful people, yes, but not many of you. Installs of new apps (YaST aside) aren't of the "click install" flavor; never mind compiling and installing. So, I suggest that Bill G's success is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Linux will never, ever reach the point of offering the point-and-click convenience that ordinary users (pop, mom, _and_ the folks at the office) need and demand. If Linux ever does achieve such a thing, I wonder how the current hard core Linux folks will feel about that? Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.89 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Imake problem with Motif 2.0
by deem＠wdm.com 29 Jun '98

29 Jun '98

gcc -o xmcd -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -L/usr/X11R6/lib cdfunc.o dbprog.o geom.o help.o hotkey.o main.o widget.o ../common_d/libutil.a ../cddb_d/libcddb.a ../libdi_d/libdi.a XmClientLibs gcc: XmClientLibs: No such file or directory I see this is an Imake problem ? Is there a work-around ? I have Motif 2.0 installed on this system and didn't have this problem on my SuSE 5.1 install ? Appreciate some help. Regards -Dee - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] FREE Netware for Linux press release
by beastman＠jump.net 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

Press release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CALDERA ANNOUNCES BETA OF CALDERA NETWARE SERVER FOR LINUX Orem, UT - June 22, 1998 - Caldera®, Inc. announces the availability of the beta version of the Caldera NetWare® Server for Linux. A three-user license version of the beta will be available for download at no charge from Caldera's FTP site beginning Wednesday, June 24, 1998. Beta documentation and a monitored mail list will be accessible via the Web site. Formal technical support for the beta product will not be offered. The Caldera NetWare Server for Linux will provide NetWare file, print and directory services running natively on Linux. This is a component of the Caldera Small Business Server, a turn-key software server solution with web-based system administration and e-mail, to be released during the third quarter of this year. "The Caldera NetWare Server for Linux is being made available in direct response to customer and VAR requests. It meets the need for NetWare services, plus Internet integration, on a low-cost, easy to manage platform," said Ransom Love, General Manager of the OpenLinux Division at Caldera. "Making the beta version available to the Linux and NetWare communities allows us to gather feedback and then release an extremely polished product." After the four-week beta period has ended, a non-beta three-user version will continue to be available for download at no charge. Additional user licenses will be available for purchase when the final product is released. end Bill Eastman <A HREF="mailto:beastman@jump.net">mailto:beastman@jump.net</A> <A HREF="http://www.jump.net/~beastman"><A HREF="http://www.jump.net/~beastman</A">http://www.jump.net/~beastman</A</A>> --- To unsubscribe send the message "unsubscribe alg-l" without quotes to majordomo(a)lists.io.com Send questions to owner-alg-l(a)lists.io.com The ALG web page is at <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/U4icRecall/alg.htm"><A HREF="http://members.aol.com/U4icRecall/alg.htm</A">http://members.aol.com/U4icRecall/alg.htm</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] multiple X
by tanc＠cuug.ab.ca 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

How can I start multiple X sessions? I want to have an X session started on VT7, another on VT8. Has anyone done this before? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards, C. J. Tan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C. J. Tan E-mail: cjtan(a)acm.org Telephone: 1-403-220-8038 tanc(a)cuug.ab.ca 1-403-606-4257 URL: <A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc"><A HREF="http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A">http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~tanc</A</A>> Facsimile: 1-403-284-1980 "An engineer made programmer is one who attempts to solve a problem, A programmer made engineer is one who knows how to solve a problem." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Where's Applix?
by hlarons＠mail.comcat.com 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 05:58:27PM +0200, Mickael Remond wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Howard Arons wrote: > > > Alas, my install has the /opt/applix directory structure, but there's > > no "applix" executable there. AFAIK there is _no_ executable in the > > install at all. Some demo :-( I really don't know what to make of this. > > How many packages did you install ? You have to install both the apxengdm > for english language support and the Applixware demo main package called > axdemo. > > Hope this might help. > > Mickaël Rémond Thanks! I'm sure that's my problem. At the risk of starting another of "those threads" I have to say that the F2 description of axdemo seemed to say that you had to choose _between_ axdemo and apxengdm. Guess I was wrong. Sigh. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.89 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] How to install server
by nelsen＠telusplanet.net 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

Hi, As a newbie to Linux I thought it best to choose the lowest common denominator video set-up when first installing SuSE. Now I would like to change the setting to SVGA. In XF86Config I choose the card to [the actual installed] Cirrus Logic 54xx and get a message telling me to abort and install the SVGA server as /usr/X11R6/bin/SVGA. I have searched all over yast in adj to install, choose install pkg, and sys admin and can find no option to install another server [what I guess must be a video driver.] Help in yast or XF86Config didn't seem to offer a hint. Any thoughts would sure be appreciated. I remain - clueless, Dave - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] What is Infoblock?
by billmadsen＠worldnet.att.net 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

Page 34 of the SUSE manual (5.2) tells the reader to look up further information about partitioning in Infoblock section IB5, page 56. I find no reference to Infoblock anywhere in the manual. Can someone tell me what and where it is? Thanks in advance. Bill Madsen in St. Louis - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] Q.Where do I find libxdelta.so.O
by terryr＠laker.net 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

Hi all, I am tring to install gimp 1.0 on suse 5.2 Demo. The only thing I need now is libxdelta.so.O, but I don't know where to find it. Does anybody know what package it is in?tyvm. Terry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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Re: [S.u.S.E. Linux] Where's Applix?
by hlarons＠mail.comcat.com 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 03:29:44PM -0500, Michael Lankton wrote: > > I have the commercial version of applix, and it installs to /opt/applix > by default. If that's where it is on your box, just symlink > /opt/applix/applix to a dir in your path. > > Howard Arons wrote: > > > > I installed the ApplixWare demo that came with SuSE 5.2 I installed > > the apxengdm package ("ApplixWare Office 4.3 Demo (English)") with YaST. > > > > So, where's the executable? I can't find an ELF binary anywhere in this > > install. Alas, my install has the /opt/applix directory structure, but there's no "applix" executable there. AFAIK there is _no_ executable in the install at all. Some demo :-( I really don't know what to make of this. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.89 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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[S.u.S.E. Linux] IRC Channel
by subb3＠ibm.net 28 Jun '98

28 Jun '98

I found an IRC channel for #suse-linux on the IRCNET. If you would like to discuss in real-time about SuSE, it is not a bad place. Here is the server, I connected to. irc.anet-chi.com The following are the other IRCNET servers irc.anet.com (0) Illinois, Texas, Missouri *.webbernet.net (1) Web Net Worldwide *.stealth.net (2) [ircd.stealth.net] Stealth - New York, USA ircd.portal.ru (3) JSC "Teleport-TP", Portal Network irc.portal.ru (4) [ircd.portal.ru] JSC "Teleport-TP", Portal Network irc.ncal.verio.net (3) Verio - Northern California ircnet.sprynet.com (4) SpryNet IRCNet Server *.lv (2) [ircd.lvnet.lv] LvNet-Teleport, Riga, Latvia *.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (2) [race-server.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp] RACE, University irc.otemachi.wide.ad.jp (3) WIDE Project Otemachi NOC, Japan irc.rcac.tdi.co.jp (4) TDI RCAC, Kyoto, Japan irc.kyoto.wide.ad.jp (5) WIDE Project Kyoto NOC, Japan irc.karrn.ad.jp (6) KARRN Hakozaki NOC endo.wide.ad.jp (6) WIDE-NOC of Fujisawa, Japan irc.tokyo.wide.ad.jp (4) WIDE Project Tokyo NOC, Japan *.dti.ne.jp (4) [irc.dti.ne.jp] Akasaka Tokyo, Japan wsclark.huie.hokudai.ac.jp (4) [133.87.128.10] Hokkaido University,Sapporo,Japan irc.kyutech.ac.jp (5) [131.206.1.101] Kyushu Institute of Technology. ,J *.tohoku.ac.jp (5) [130.34.11.89] Tohoku University, Japan *.uni.net (2) [irc.fun.uni.net] UniNet Rome, Italy irc.cifnet.com (2) Chicago InterFlash Networking, Inc. *.NL.net (2) [ircd.NL.net] NLnet Amsterdam, The Netherlands eris.bt.net (3) British Telecom IRC Routing Server irc.warwick.ac.uk (4) University of Warwick server chat.btinternet.com (4) BT Internet Chat irc.netcom.net.uk (4) [194.42.224.135] NETCOM Internet Ltd, UK irc.u-net.com (4) U-Net Internet IRCNet Server chat.bt.net (4) [194.73.82.246] British Telecom Public IRC Server irc.easynet.co.uk (4) [banana.irc.easynet.net] Easynet, London, UK *.ch (3) [ircd.span.ch] SPAN Swiss Private Access Network irc2.sci.kun.nl (3) University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands *.se (4) [irc.ludd.luth.se] Top of the world, Lulea, Sweden *.fi (6) [ircd.funet.fi] Finnish University and Research Ne *.pl (7) [absolut.sgh.waw.pl] Warsaw, Poland *.no (7) [irc.ifi.uio.no] Universitas Osloensis irc.isnet.is (7) ISnet, Iceland *.teliafi.net (7) [irc.teliafi.net] Telia Finland *.ee (7) [irc.estpak.ee] Estpak Data, Tallinn, Estonia irc.ru (7) [skraldespand.demos.su] Russian IRC server, Demos- *.lt (5) [193.219.61.14] Lithuanian IrcNET Uplink Server, L *.be (4) [ircd.belnet.be] BELNET routing server, Brussels irc.skybel.net (5) Skynet SA/NV IRC Server *.unipi.it (3) [irc.ccii.unipi.it] University of Pisa, Italy *.DE (3) [irc.gmd.de] [irc.gmd.de] GMD, St.Augustin, German luisvive.euiti.upv.es (5) [UPV]-= luisvive.euiti.upv.es =- SPAiN irc.cis.vutbr.cz (5) IRC server of CIS FEI VUT Brno irc.felk.cvut.cz (6) [147.32.80.15] Technical University of Prague, CVU irc.vsp.cz (6) [195.113.118.2] FRIT VSP Hradec Kralove *.at (4) [irc.wu-wien.ac.at] [137.208.127.3 6667] Vienna, A *.tin.it (5) [ircd.tin.it] - Telecom Italia Net - Italy irc.flashnet.it (6) - Flashnet Telecomunicazioni Spa - Italy *.sk (5) [netlab.irc.sk] NETLAB plus, ISP in Slovakia *.arnes.si (5) [irc.arnes.si] ARNES IRC Server irc.uni-mb.si (6) University of Maribor IRC Server *.fr (4) [sil.polytechnique.fr] Ecole Polytechnique, France *.grolier.net (5) [hub.grolier.net] IRCNet - Grolier/Club-Internet irc.twiny.net (6) [195.101.196.14] Twiny - Paris La Defense, France *.insat.com (6) [194.51.149.1] Societe INSAT S.A. *.hu (5) [irc.bme.hu] Technical University of Budapest *.dknet.dk (5) [irc.dknet.dk] Copenhagen, Denmark sunsite.auc.dk (6) SunSITE Denmark, Aalborg University ircnet.demon.co.uk (3) Demon Internet Ltd, London, UK. *.il (3) [ircd.ibm.net.il] IBM, Israel *.xs4all.nl (3) [irc.xs4all.nl] XS4ALL, Networking for the Masses *.gr (3) [irc.ee.auth.gr] Aristotle uni. of Thessaloniki, irc.sci.kun.nl (3) University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands ircnet.irc.aol.com (2) [152.163.208.18] America Online *.ca (2) [ircnet.idirect.ca] Internet Direct - Toronto, Can *.au (2) [flute.telstra.net.au] TI IRC Server Hope this helps. Regards, Subba Rao subb3(a)ibm.net - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo(a)suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

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