openSUSE PPC December 2001

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Re: [suse-ppc] Microsoft Project
by David Callaghan 30 Dec '01

30 Dec '01

There doesn't seem to be a good replacement on Linux for MS Project out there. Try Wine and use MS Project on Linux! http://appdb.codeweavers.com/appview.php?appId=446 >Isn't "ToutDoux" (part of Gnome project) supposed to do this? > >I could never get it to compile (on PPC) though... argh. > >-i > > > >On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 23:16, Kevin B.Hendricks wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On December 20, 2001 06:09, allan levy wrote: >> > Is there a replacement for MS Project >> >> Not in the OpenOffice project. I teach project management to my MBA and >> EMBA students and once looked for a nice alternative that was not big $$ >> and never found it. If you find something please let me know. >> >> Kevin >> > > > >

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Re: [suse-ppc] Microsoft Project
by David Callaghan 29 Dec '01

29 Dec '01

Please let us all know if it works. I don't have a copy of Project to test my advice, so this was more of an unsubstantiated rumor than an actual tip :) >Hi, > >> >Isn't "ToutDoux" (part of Gnome project) supposed to do this? >> > >> >I could never get it to compile (on PPC) though... argh. > >This looks promising. I grabbed the source, (and it requires postgres sql >as a backend). > >I will try building it under ppc and make a binary if I can get it to work. > >Thanks for the tip. > >Kevin >

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Re: [suse-ppc] Pb installing Suse on Powerbook Wallstreet G3
by Damir Buskulic 27 Dec '01

27 Dec '01

Hi, But there is a need for the atyfb driver, right ? You mean there are two such drivers ? atyfb and ati64fb ? In any case, thanks for the hint. Damir ===================================================================== | Damir Buskulic | Universite de Savoie/LAPP | | | Chemin de Bellevue, B.P. 110 | | Tel : +33 (0)450091600 | F-74941 Annecy-le-Vieux Cedex | | e-mail: buskulic(a)lapp.in2p3.fr | FRANCE | ===================================================================== mailto:buskulic@lapp.in2p3.fr On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, frank dornheim wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Wallstreet too. I think the problem is the kernel, dont compile > the ati64fb driver in (not in the kernel and not as a module). Than its > work. > > > con >

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Re: [suse-ppc] netatalk - segmentation fault
by ursel24＠web.de 27 Dec '01

27 Dec '01

> Is it supported? > I used yast2 to add the netatalk package, then did a ./atalk start > from the /etc/init.d/ library and got a segmentation fault. Do I > need to do anything else, I have searched the net for netatalk and > suse and found that the sbin is now init.d (due to standards) and I > am now slightly at a loss. Netatalk on: Linux 7.2 i386 and PPC 7.3 on Powerbook G3 or iMac DV works well. Check the atalkd.conf if there's an entry for eth0. Run "rcatalk start". Under MacOS Appleshare you'll see the name of the fileserver. Regards, Ursel ________________________________________________________________ Keine verlorenen Lotto-Quittungen, keine vergessenen Gewinne mehr! Beim WEB.DE Lottoservice: http://tippen2.web.de/?x=13

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unable to switch to cups
by Allan E. Levy 27 Dec '01

27 Dec '01

If I try to switch to cups, yast2 hangs, part of the problem may be that I have a ricoh network printer, that listens on port 10000, not 5xx like most ethernet printers. I need to put the address as addr:port1 so it is not immediately reachable .

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Re: [SLE] Re: Holdout States Want Microsoft Office Ported To Linux
by Bartydeux 26 Dec '01

26 Dec '01

Le Jeudi 20 Décembre 2001 19:26, vous avez écrit : > On Wednesday 19 December 2001 20:05, Curtis wrote: > > Port it and they will come. > > I think there is too much obsession with porting MS apps. Let's show > the world we don't need MS by developing high-quality open-source > native Linux apps. This is already happening, of course. I barely use > Windows/MS any more. That trend will only grow stronger as more and > more developers and users join the swelling tide. > Personaly I am not a great specialist in computer science. Just an end-user but I am using Linux about at 100% (99.8% because Canoscan 650U does not like Linux, shame to Canon. As soon as a competitor makes a portable scanner Linux-friendly I throw my Canoscan in the trash-can. I do genealogical work and I need a light and carryable scanner). I did many thinks though with Linux: Mysql/Perl/Tk, Postfix mail servor working but still at test-stage, I am trying now Cyrus-Imap but still have problems, sound capture with ecasound or gramofile and I would like to do video capture => divx compression but failed to install VCR but I don't despair, etc At the end of january I'll do a seminar about Linux where I work. It won't be easy because I am the only one who knows some little thing on the matter and I'll face a front of Windows or Apple users (already facing them). I hesitate how I'll present it (excuse my bad english). Powerpoint is not available yet on Linux. I just have my two laptops (one PC and one iBook both with SuSE 7.x). Is there something equivalent to Powerpoint? Does anybody has suggestions and url's with interesting matters to show in a seminar? Thanks -- Alain Barthélemy bartydeux(a)gminformatique.com http://bartydeux.gminformatique.com

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ANNOUNCE: OpenOffice.org Build 641C released for PPC Linux
by Kevin B.Hendricks 21 Dec '01

21 Dec '01

Hi, Happy Holidays! - The latest release of OpenOffice.org (build OO641C) for PPC Linux is now available! OpenOffice.org is based on the same source tree (with a few minor differences) as the upcoming StarOffice 6.0. It basically supplies an almost drop in replacement for Microsoft Office (and is getting better with every release). New in this release ---------------------- - now built with glibc-2.2.4 and -z combreloc enabled to help speed the startup of OpenOffice (need glibc-2.2.4 to see speedup) - lots of font related improvements and bug fixes - fixes for both KDE and Sawfish window manager issues - spell checking in multiple languages now supported with easy to install thrid party dictionaries supported and coming soon for Portuguese, Dutch, German, Italian, Russian, Spanish, and English (United Kingdom) For more information including the full source code check out the OpenOffice.org website: http://www.openoffice.org This binary should run on any ppc linux system with glibc 2.2.1 or higher, XFree86 4.0 or higher, etc. The new home for PPC Linux OpenOffice.org releases is: ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/software/openoffice/ The name of the *latest* installer is: oo641ca_installer.tar.gz The OpenOffice.README_ppclinux contains installation instructions and more information. Due to the late nature of this release, the mirror sites at SuSE and Mandrakesoft have not yet been updates with the latest release but should be early in the new year. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/powerpc/openoffice/ http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ Thank you Dan Burcaw (YDL) for providing a new home of the PPC Linux OpenOffice.org project. And thanks to Olaf Hering ( of SuSE) and Stew Benedict (of Mandrakesoft) for graciously providing mirror locations. Please support our PPC Linux distributions and buy the latest distributions, they are helping to bring great new software to you! Thanks, Kevin Hendricks kevin.hendricks(a)sympatico.ca

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Re: [suse-ppc] Re: [SLE] Re: Holdout States Want Microsoft OfficePorted To Linux
by David Callaghan 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

Try StarOffice's Presentation and Drawing programs. I'm a consultant who deals primarily with financial and legal companies. I've pitched a lot of systems, both Microsoft and Linux, won some lost some, and this is what worked for me. A pitch to end-users is typically more difficult than a pitch to system admins and management because many of the strengths of Linux, like stability and security and price, don't carry the same impact as usabilty. For most users in most business environments, it will come down to StarOffice versus MS Office. And MS Office is better than StarOffice for all but the lightest tasks. To make sure, reproduce some of your company's templates, spreadsheet's and databases in Star Office. If it was a comparable experience, you can possibly make some converts. If you want to put the accounting office on StarCalc, make sure all of the macros will convert. If your company has in-house VB developers who have worked with making customized Office applications, these will not convert. You may find more success by trying to integrate rather than migrate. I have found the argument for running a mixed environment using a variety of tools works out better. In the server room, making the web server migration argument is fairly simple (depending on exisiting ASP and ActiveX investment. Go to www.php.net for the ASP-PHP argument). There's also a strong argument to be made for the database server as MySQL and PostGRES are both excellent database alternatives. Print and File Services, handled through samba, provide a viable alternative for Linux. Toss a little netatalk into the mix and welcome your Macs. There are some really cool Mac programs available. I installed SuSE 7.1 PPC on an RS6K and I noticed a lot of prentation, graphics, movie making, photgraphics, etc software. I recently integrated Windows, Linux and Macs together very simply in an enterprise with a home office, a warehouse and multiple call centers. The home office got new XP P4s with 256MB for $550 a piece preloaded with Office XP. It only took about 2 days to connect the XP network, set up the X-Drives for Internet file-sharing and online backup (75MB for $3/m per license), create Office XP intranets for each department for sharing and publishing documents, and setup the MacAfee to try and stem the flow of viruses. The Macs had MS Office by necessity because Sun cut off the development of Mac versions early this year and will leave this up to the openoffice people. It should be easier to talk Mac people into Linux because of the great open software for imaging, publishing and video, but I have never successfully done this. Mac people have heavier resistence to OS-switching arguments. In the warehouse and the field offices, I'm using IBM NetVista thin clients ($800) that boot from a SuSE 7.3 acting as boot server. Thin Clients run PHP/MySQL application on the server based on the open ebXML standards for business transactions, which is analogous to a BizTalk project. Some regional managers use thin clients that run StarOffice as well and can read static spreadsheets and documents sent to them from the home office. The servers are 2 IBM RS6Ks running SuSE PPC and AIX 5.1 loaded with apache, qmail, mysql, php, samba and amanda (tape backup). The Windows PCs use ODBC to connect to the MySQL database to populate Office documents and link tables to Access databases. They use IE to connect to the corporate Apache-driven intranet and save their files to a samba directory for backup. The printers are acually not accessible by the Linux servers (Canon again!), but samba came in handy from the other direction. Find out what your company needs to maintain and what they might need to grow and adapt your presentation to them. And serve donuts. Seriously. >staroffice works pretty well, it is very similar to powerpoint > >On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Bartydeux wrote: > >Le Jeudi 20 Décembre 2001 19:26, vous avez écrit : >> On Wednesday 19 December 2001 20:05, Curtis wrote: >> > Port it and they will come. >> >> I think there is too much obsession with porting MS apps. Let's show >> the world we don't need MS by developing high-quality open-source >> native Linux apps. This is already happening, of course. I barely use >> Windows/MS any more. That trend will only grow stronger as more and >> more developers and users join the swelling tide. >> > >Personaly I am not a great specialist in computer science. Just an end-user >but I am using Linux about at 100% (99.8% because Canoscan 650U does not like >Linux, shame to Canon. As soon as a competitor makes a portable scanner >Linux-friendly I throw my Canoscan in the trash-can. I do genealogical work >and I need a light and carryable scanner). > >I did many thinks though with Linux: Mysql/Perl/Tk, Postfix mail servor >working but still at test-stage, I am trying now Cyrus-Imap but still have >problems, sound capture with ecasound or gramofile and I would like to do >video capture => divx compression but failed to install VCR but I don't >despair, etc > >At the end of january I'll do a seminar about Linux where I work. It won't be >easy because I am the only one who knows some little thing on the matter and >I'll face a front of Windows or Apple users (already facing them). I hesitate >how I'll present it (excuse my bad english). Powerpoint is not available yet >on Linux. I just have my two laptops (one PC and one iBook both with SuSE >7.x). Is there something equivalent to Powerpoint? > >Does anybody has suggestions and url's with interesting matters to show in a >seminar? > >Thanks >-- >Alain Barthélemy > >bartydeux(a)gminformatique.com >http://bartydeux.gminformatique.com > >

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B&W G3 will not boot into MacOS with 7.3
by Ola Olsson 20 Dec '01

20 Dec '01

After installing 7.3 on my sons B&W G3 and setting up lilo it refuses to boot in MacOS. I've tried setting the default to and from Linux and macos respectively but it freezes whenever it attempts to boot the Mac. How can I access the Mac? Thanks, Ola Olsson -- /******************************************* /** Ola Olsson -- oeolsson(a)enosis.net /** http://www.enosis.net /** "I learn so I can teach so I can learn." /*******************************************

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Scanner doesn't configure with 7.3
by Ola Olsson 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

After installing 7.3 on my 400 MHz G4 my Epson scanner no longer functions. The Yast2 scanner tool sees the USB scanner but can't configure it. SANE and XSane are recognized but when I click test nothing happens. Will I have to do this manually? Thanks, Ola Olsson -- /******************************************* /** Ola Olsson -- oeolsson(a)enosis.net /** http://www.enosis.net /** "I learn so I can teach so I can learn." /*******************************************

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