September 2008 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Zypper vs Yum: Lacking Features discussion
by Alexey Eremenko 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Hi All, I would like to discuss a bit about zypper and yum, and perhaps, open feature-requests. Yum is old Red Hat's technology while zypper is new SUSE's thing :) More seriously: -I have heard that yum has ability to show the package changelog diff for pacakges to be updated, while zypper lacks it -yum shows the repository from which the package will be installed. (Very useful if you have many repos with duplicate packages.) What do you think ? Are those small annoyances touch you ? -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 'Thought of 2 more.
by Fred A. Miller 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

I just thought of 2 other things to mention in regard to 4.*. First, screen savers are limited, and 3d screen savers don't run correctly - often just in a small square window. Other times one will lock up the entire desktop. This on laptops with Intel video chipsets. The second is there's nolonger a list of most used apps. Fred -- "Security" in Windows comes from patching a sieve. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1
by Fred A. Miller 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Fred Miller <fmiller(a)lightlink.com> [01-01-70 11:34]: >> [snip] >> >> I'm done discussing it.....period. What they ship is what they ship. >> It will succeed or fail. When 4.2 is released, I'll check it out. If >> it has what my users need, fine. If not, we'll see what Gnome has to >> offer then. >> > > But we really do need to help or nothing will change. I understand > your point, but nothing is being accomplished this way and it *is* > going to move on wether we help to change/improve it or not. [snip] I simply don't have the time now, nor anytime soon, to go through every feature in 3.5 and compare what is missing in 4.* right now. First, I'm not willing to mess up a box with 4.1 to do that. I wish I did, but I don't. I'm going to semi-retire next year and will have a tad more time, but now I don't. Maybe someone else does. Take care, Fred -- "Security" in Windows comes from patching a sieve. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] My Windows 7 wish list
by Fred A. Miller 06 Sep '08

06 Sep '08

Carl Spitzer wrote: > On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 16:27 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: >> You can't wish anything for Windows. It has closed development cycle. >> > > Is there a team for fixing decades old bugs? Their memories were erased. ;) Fred -- Linux is an old Latin word meaning, "I don't have to support your Windows anymore." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] wireless networks
by ¡ElCheVive! 06 Sep '08

06 Sep '08

Hi, Anyone knows if theres a problem with KNetworkManager or ifup in connecting to wireless networks with ESSIDs containing special characteres like º, ª, ã, and others? regards, Luiz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1
by Dominique Leuenberger 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 20:51 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: > Alternatively, since very few people use Gnome, put Gnome on the CD and > have the *full* KDE3 with (crippled) KDE4 on the DVD. > > KDE4 is at the centre of this whole debate so *it* should be *"reduced"* > and *NOT* KDE3 which is fully functional and stable. Please please please.. don't go there... just because YOU do not use something does not mean that only 'very few people' use something... Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Sun Java in the NON-OSS Repo
by Dominique Leuenberger 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

Hi, Yesterday I was fscing a 'problem' where I had to connect using our SSL/VPN solution to the corporate network (using a Juniper SSL/VPN). I logged in to the webportl, and then to initiate the real connection, a java applet is started that installs the client and connects to the network. Unfortunately, this applet is not working with the existing 1.7 and 1.6 openjdks that are provided at this moment in Factory. I had to revert to a sun version (grabbed it from an 11.0 non-oss repo). Could we keep the Java versions in the non-oss repo, until the new, open versions provide all the functionality required? This would be awesome! Thank you for reading, Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] nvidia and kernel-2.6.27-rc5-git2-5
by Dave Plater 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Has anybody had any success with the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run package and the factory kernel? Regards Dave P --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 11.1 Alpha3 and status
by Christoph Thiel 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Hi everyone, as I'm traveling all of this week, I just wanted to let you know, that we will stick to http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap and won't release an Alpha3 this week. (http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/11.1 mentioned an Alpha3, without taking Hackweek and travel plans into consideration.) As soon as I'm back in Nuremberg next week, I'll push for a test build Alpha3plus. The status of the distribution is short this time: last week was hackweek -> not much progress. We still have too many failing packages. Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] opensuse-contrib mailing list
by Hans-Peter Holler 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Hi subscribers of factory, what about establishing a separate $subject? These discussions might be interesting for hackers/maintainers/testers of packages like banner or putty which are of course needed for people not satisfied with factory/release. But seeing that on factory? Just my thoughts. Hans-Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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