I'm not real happy with the response that I'm getting with my 8500 (when
in an X session) and want to upgrade the processor.
Has anyone tried running SUSE on an 8500PPC with an accelerator card
If so which card, did you use?
Thanks in Advance
I still use Classic on my main desktop, but X on my iBook. The main
reason I haven't fully switched is that I'm waiting for a few more
programs to be carbonized.
The frustrating thing with Aqua is that it's still a bit immature.
Some nice GUI features of Classic are gone. Specifically, I miss
spring loaded folders and I wish the finder windows would come up to
the front when you click on the desktop. However, I've heard they're
coming back in 10.1.3, which should be out any day now.
The biggest problem I've had, however, is that Aqua has a hard time
with windows holding a lot of documents. Open up a window and the
response time is slow. Scrolling is slow, clicking on triangles is
slow, etc. Now open it up in classic and you'll see that it's *much*
Project Builder is a nice IDE for X. I'm taking Java classes right
now, and it works well. It does lack a lot of features that the
commercial IDEs have, though. However, for basic java dev, it's more
than adequate. You may want to try JBuilder if Project Builder
doesn't suit you. I actually use JBuilder instead of Project Builder.
I want to support X, and I do need it for development work. However,
I'm placing my hopes for the GUI on 10.2.
>I use to work with a Pentium 3 with 512 MB RAM.
>With MS XP or Windows 2000 the speed is higher than in KDE but even with KDE
>and XFree 4 (Mandrake 8.1)working is no problem except of the lack of some
>But what is the experience with OS X?
>Do you have to wait while resizing a window? Let's say working with a PB 550
>with 512 MB RAM.
>How is it to develop JavaApps?
>What are 'Developer tools, Project Builder'?
>GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
Shu-Wai Chow, Iron Chef Sloppy Joes :: schow(a)macnexus.org
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice...
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
I use to work with a Pentium 3 with 512 MB RAM.
With MS XP or Windows 2000 the speed is higher than in KDE but even with KDE
and XFree 4 (Mandrake 8.1)working is no problem except of the lack of some
But what is the experience with OS X?
Do you have to wait while resizing a window? Let's say working with a PB 550
with 512 MB RAM.
How is it to develop JavaApps?
What are 'Developer tools, Project Builder'?
GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
Me either, until this new G4/800.
Are you talking about sleep? I am not using any sort of power saving or
sleep features. It just runs normally all day long with the display
blanked via DPMS when not in use.
I wouldn't think that pulling out the Radeon 7500 and putting in a Rage
128 Pro would affect the system time (in the kernel, not the hardware
clock which seems to be keeping correct time).
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 10:40:44PM -0500, Richard E. Thornton wrote:
> I haven't noticed this problem with SuSE. Perhaps this is an issue
> with your pwer save hardware?
so I got rid of this 4MB IMS TT that always messed with my Linux...
( I could not configure the XServer properly to work with this
card..Resolutions, Geometry etc)
(and when I tried to fix one Problem, there were at least two new
Probs or the system would refuse to work at all ;(( )
after I went to Xfree.org and had a look on the supported Cards, I
decided to get a Voodoo 3 2000..
flashed it with the 12b Rom Driver...this works well under MacOS 8.6
But when I start Linux (BootX) I will run just into the same troubles
I had with the former Videocard..
Every additional Bootparameter (eg: video=tdfxfb or a checked video
of box ) will result in a black screen just after the first few
prints on the screen...last message before the screen turns black is
about the voodoo.
Starting without parameters will lead me to runlevel 5 with a screen
that is compressed to half on the left side of the screen, height is
Switching to runlevel 3, running sax2 does not work, neither a simple
sax2, nor sax2 -f, nor sax2 -m 0=tdfx...will get the card recognized
What can be done / will be necessary to get the Voodoo working?
I´ve read about patches that must be compiled into the Kernel!??
I have a Dec 1999 g3 400 iMAc.
Since I am about to install OSX 10.1 and OS 9.2, Apple indicates updating
Firmware to 4.1.9 Anyone know if this will thwart my plans to install SuSe
Linux 7.1 ?
I read the following on the SuSE site, but it is a little vague:
* January 2001
* These machines have a newer firmware, the bootloader is unable to open
* iMacs can be used with 7.1
* Cube, Titanium Powerbook G4 can be used with 7.1
* G4 can be used with 7.1, the Radeon and nVidia cards are unsupported,
remove the SCSI card, onboard ethernet may not work
* iBook2 works (unconfirmed), enter "boot cd:,\\yaboot" on the firmware
* August 2000
* These machines have a newer firmware, the bootloader is unable to open
* G4, Cube, iMac, iBook, Powerbook can be used with 7.0, kernel 2.2.18
* the available Radeoncards are unsupported
It seems to imply that the firmware on the newer macs is not compatible.
Well if I update my older Mac with the latest Firmware update 4.1.9, it
sounds like I may shoot my Linux installation plans in the foot! Anyone
Just one question. Aviplay is not provided with SuSE7.3PPC (well with PC
Is it a way to watch .avi divx compressed files with SuSE7.3PPC (aviplay,
Could anyone explain to me why my machine uses swap space while
there is still 50mb+ of real memory available. For the first time,
the machine froze after swap reached 100% and I had to turn the
machine off and reboot.
I am using 7.3 with the 2.4.16 kernel and 256mb RAM.
My attempts to install suse-ppc 7.3 on a umax c600 have progressed
The initial problem seems to have been my external scsi zip drive.
With that drive disconnected, the kernel completes its initial
loading and linuxrc executes partway.
Since I'm booting from hard disk, it was also important to use the
kernel argument hwprobe=-all (thanks Yvon!)
The best results so far are with the 2.4.12 or 2.4.16 kernel ( I also
Linuxrc gets through the first few screens, where I select language
and keyboard, and can review kernel messages. No glaring errors there.
The problem seems to be mounting the CD in my internal scsi drive.
Every time the install hangs while displaying the message "Attempting
to mount CD" or something similar. With the 2.4.2 kernel, the install
hangs just after selecting the keyboard, and I can't review the
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
02/01/2002 03:24 PM
Subject: [suse-ppc] installation trouble on umax c600
I am trying to install 7.3 on a umax c600, with a Sonnet Crescendo G3/L2
card and internal SCSI CD drive. The MacOS is v8.1. I'm booting with
extensions off, so the G3 card is not active (though I hope it will
eventually run under Linux!)
As advised in a recent post to this list, I downloaded the 2.4.2 kernel
and ramdisk image. I am running BootX from a suseboot folder on my hard
Things seem to start out fine, with Tux the Penquin bobbing his head and
tapping his foot a few times. The last messages printed to the console
>>> SuSE installation program v1.1.18 (c) 1996-2001 SuSE Gmbh <<<
Starting hardware detection..
Then it seems to hang, as it tries to read from the CD.
Earlier, as the kernel is booting, it recognizes the CD drive as:
Toshiba CD-ROM XM-5701TA Rev:0167
Are there any special kernel arguments I should be using? I never seem to
get to a command prompt once the kernel takes over from MacOS.
Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.