February 2012 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Cinnamon submissions - ping coolo
by Nelson Marques 10 Feb '12

10 Feb '12

Hi all, There's currently a tiny issue regarding the submission of Cinnamon identified by Coolo and Vincent (assuming). The Muffin package (a fork of mutter) typelib has the same name that mutter's. Currently everything seems to work, and though this library is internal to mutter/muffin it might bring issues in the future. This was taken upstream which will fix it, but not yet for the next release (due to the large number of changes required). My question is, since currently (maybe out of pure luck) we haven't any report of real issues, could we allow this in Factory until it gets fixed (most likely before the release 12.2) ? Furthermore... the typelib package naming policy. In the case of muffin/cinnamon, the typelib is internal and not public, which eventually falls out of the current typelib policies (since we are only considering public typelibs in the policy). Could this be allowed also: - typelib(Meta) = 3.0 Can we have the package named as typelib-3_0-libmuffin-0_0 ? And I would maybe suggest that internal typelib's could be packaged that way, so we have a distinction just by looking at the package name we know that: * libmuffin has a internal typelib (we don't know if it's Meta or anything else, but we can easilly find out with "rpm -qp --provides package"). Comments, suggestions... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] What should I do?
by Ilya Chernykh 10 Feb '12

10 Feb '12

I submit a package and in just five minutes the request gets automatically declined because "the sources has been changed". This happens each time I submit. The last change to this package was 3 months ago. https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/103636 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] License Selection
by David Hall 10 Feb '12

10 Feb '12

In reference to https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/103430 , I wanted to find the correct license for PyMol per spdx.org . Not the CNRI listed in the spec file is incorrect. The Copyright can be seen at http://pymol.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pymol/trunk/pymol/LICENSE?revision=… , some people describe this as a modified MIT license (eg https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-August/msg00024.html ). I am torn between labelling it as MIT or SUSE-Permissive , any thoughts on the matter and which I should do? -David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] security repo maintainers - a few questions
by Greg Freemyer 09 Feb '12

09 Feb '12

Security maintainers, I've submitted a new role SR to be a maintainer of the security project since I've been pushing a bunch of DFIR packages there (Digital Forensics / Incident Response). Assuming I'm accepted, I have a few questions: 1) Is there a guideline for accepting new packages I submit? How about patches to packages I maintain. ie. Can I just submit them from my home and accept them with no review, or is their a concept of letting another maintainer accept my SRs? Is that for both new packages and for updates? 2) Several of the packages require packages from other repos to install. That's not a problem for factory / 12.2, but what about providing packages for 11.4/12.1. Should I just document that users need to install multiple repos? Or should I "osc linkpac" them to security? (If so, what's the best syntax for osc linkpac?) 3) dc3dd is currently in the archiving repo, but it makes more sense to me in the security repo. I want to push it to factory. Should I linkpac it to security first, then push from there? 4) So far I haven't submitted any pen testing tools. Since those can be used for both good and bad, I wanted to know if there is a established policy for that class of tool. ie. They are encouraged? discouraged? 5) I'd like to put together a wiki page that let's people know these DFIR packages exist. Is there an existing wiki page I can add to? Thanks Greg Thanks Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer CNN/TruTV Aired Forensic Imaging Demo - http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/23/how-computer-evidence-gets-retrie… The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Distribution
by Stephan Kulow 09 Feb '12

09 Feb '12

Hi, We still have issues that need to be sorted out before I want to release Milestone 1: - network installations do not work without major annoyance due to changed checksum format - live cds won't boot I hope we can get them in today though. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Is Buildroot tag needed?
by Ilya Chernykh 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

Is seems on more modern releases there is no error when this tag is absent. Should I delete it everywhere? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Will we see a systemd help section added to Help Section in 12.2?
by Roman Bysh 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

Hello List Mates, Is there any talk about adding a systemd help section to the Help Center in Favorites for 12.2? Yes I know about man systemd. Cheers! Roman ------------------------------------------------------------------ openSUSE Linux -- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://counter.li.org #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] GPT Table Problem
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

Hello, can any tell me why, or is this is a Problem with YaST2. I create with discpart a GPT Table and install Linux in UEFI Mode and run in Problems, on second start the UEFI code is not correct written to the NVRAM? The System is not booting? When I check the disk after Installing, the GPT Table do not exist in diskpart anymore? Next installation written a new GPT Table with YasT2 The NVRAM is cleared with efibootmgr, afterward I have also a bad UEFI Entry in the NVRAM I have only 1 Entry (0000) but the boot Order is 0001,0001,0001,0000 Sometimes after NEW Installation the UEFI Boot is possible, but it is not longer possible to Start a other System or from DVD F10 (Startmenü) and F2 (Bios Setup) is not longer working. When I clear the NVRAM with efibootmgr F10 / F2 is working again? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] [RFC DRAFT] Phasing out sysvinit
by Cristian Rodríguez 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

Hi: Supporting 2 different init systems comes with a large increase of possible usecases and scenarios that are very difficult to support correctly, specially in the long term. This RFC proposes steps to permanently phase out sysvinit from future openSUSE releases. Phase 0 - Fix all *currently* outstanding bugs of systemd if any, note that this step only deals with problems in systemd itself, not in service files installed by other packages, udev, kernel, networkmanager or whatever other thing. - Determine which services currently lack of native systemd units. - Add an rpmlint error with moderate badness for the start,complaining about the lack of unit files. Phase 1: - Delete sysvinit scripts that deal purely with hardware things,like only loading kernel modules, making udev to handle them or simple dropping a foobar.conf with the needed modules in /usr/lib/modules-load.d/ whichever is more adequate or doable. - Add missing systemd units for the packages where rpmlint warns. - Add rpmlint with badness complaining about logrotate, or other shell scripts calling files in /etc/init.d ... Phase 3: - Turn rpmlint warnings about the lack of systemd units on packages including traditional sysvinit scripts a fatal error. - fix logrotate or shell scripts that are calling sysvint scripts and make the rpmlint warning a fatal error. - tell RPM to %exclude files in /etc/init.d from packages, do not forc packagers to exclude these files themselves. - make all macros relevant to traditional init scripts a no-op, do not force packagers to remove those lines or add extra hacks to the already horrendous hackery in spec files. - test, test, test. - remove sysvinit and all the relevant bootloader options and from the documentation. -- ????? -- Profit. :-) This is just a quick brain dump, I am certainly missing something else. Have fun. Cristian. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New package for factory: grsync
by Petr Uzel 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

Hello, I would like to propose new package for Factory: grsync http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/ Brief: Grsync is used to synchronize folders, files and make backups. Detailed: Grsync is a rsync GUI (Graphical User Interface). Rsync is the well-known and powerful command line directory and file synchronization tool. Grsync makes use of the GTK libraries and is released under the GPL license, so it is opensource. It doesn't need the gnome libraries to run, but can of course run under gnome pretty fine. It can be effectively used to synchronize local directories and it supports remote targets as well (even though it doesn't support browsing the remote folder). Sample uses of grsync include: synchronize a music collection with removable devices, backup personal files to a networked drive, replication of a partition to another one, mirroring of files, etc. Inclusion of this package has been requested in http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-01/msg01204.html The corresponding fate entry is https://features.opensuse.org/313164 The package lived in Contrib for some time and now it is maintained in the 'network' project. Current version of the package is 1.2.1. Petr -- Petr Uzel IRC: ptr_uzl @ freenode

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[opensuse-factory] anyone care for man-in-the-middle CA trustwave.com registrar disaster?
by cagsm 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

anyone care for trustwave.com mim disaster? see mozilla bug at: <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724929> what about opensuse certificates? anyone revoking these things as stuff happens out there? what happened with those diginotar and other things from last year, i havent kept track of those. thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] muffin
by Nelson Marques 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

"muffin was declined in 101506, without there is no chance" https://build.opensuse.org/request/diff/102030 What is this supposed to mean? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Removing support for nss_ldap/pam_ldap from YaST LDAP client
by Jiri Suchomel 08 Feb '12

08 Feb '12

Hi! According to feature #313142 ("YaST support only SSSD for LDAP based authentication") we want to remove current nss_ldap/pam_ldap support from YaST modules and leave only support for SSSD. Target is next openSUSE realease (12.2). SSSD is there already now (12.1), but still only as an option. With new approach, we should of course provide a migration from current setups. However, this also means that we will stop supporting non-encrypted connections to LDAP server, because SSL/TLS is a requirement for SSSD. So you have to prepare your LDAP servers so they are able to provide TLS. Jiri -- Jiri Suchomel SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: jsuchome(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Praha 9, Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] zypper does not work
by Jiri Slaby 07 Feb '12

07 Feb '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, after the update of curl (libcurl more precisely) to 7.24, zypper (and curl) doesn't work anymore: Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/standa…': Error code: Unrecognized error Error message: Failed initialization To solve the issue I downgraded libcurl to the one from 12.1: rpm -Uvh libcurl4-7.22.0-2.1.3.x86_64.rpm --oldpackage Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745534 thanks, - -- js suse labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPMO58AAoJEL0lsQQGtHBJNVAP/0jK0f50JijRDLNJTA+59HGq SPAGj/mfHc4QHwzNVcEOk4mGTWhW2M7kntqMopJDA6GJ2SwJ2e1sw/IONvUKI8kV T/R08gxxVk2l1jdiVeZDCUyoiShlnblLVSBt+NjG8ziK9mZj05E43u0U0cjZ6A7n PUeQEZj7phlB4SoVUct/+u+EsK5DgixSp8tVSAm8tUvl9099QLU8IZleo9Jtz3Bc X8IdgqCal+KIX6w8emnVlrm2BXmnpkS07e4rFpf3YjT7PzXHq2nGr3xN/L5GURS2 4zUy/XZHnQR1k6+2FltQ2ezCXVojyUuZt90PdDH0p0yOQemcWAAup3wAFtHSljjw aSaeAao7qqhjM8qJE7f5+xDZl4wWsAg01ym82UhFer5z4tYC0o/dhAKsd3I9CFwW fIao6dP3Sx60MpWKgyGTEZkhwzMP5Jg74TDwoN0zHWYf6NmoaOXLE56zrt4bkqP5 6Fq6TAyVYSTKuC0tmGg5XXZvOUXEj9RO4hYVK0YEda9rpqwdofXhZZCxZegr0w4W Qwp17l8wdiMi1B8D/fpKu0VLgzWVTYVkS+gFf1Qpij/xoNpuXjScsbCuflIhufn0 CHobXRy7Qs1wrRJfVM23dpelOZsb2pSpZ//iBAoQ0aUh6Ts+T+Hq9MHQhBZy7loo ynNCOLEMvqbUnLMP41dL =jgvk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] journal
by Peter Czanik 07 Feb '12

07 Feb '12

Hello, Last week and today I experimented with journal on openSUSE Factory and Fedora Rawhide. For all details, please check my blogs: http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/2012/02/journal-and-syslog-ng/ and https://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/2012/02/journal-and-syslog-ng-revisited-on… As I don't know, which is a bug or a feature, here is a list of openSUSE related problems, let me know which to report in bugzilla: - output from "logger bla" (and most of the syslog messages) does not show up in the journal (output of systemd-journalctl), only in /var/log/messages (on Rawhide all logs are stored in the journal and forwarded to syslog). - when replacing rsyslog with syslog-ng (zypper rm rsyslog), rsyslog keeps running. syslog-ng can't be started with "systemctl restart syslog.service". It turned out, that one also needs a "*systemctl deamon-reload". Could this be added to post install, or that would have additional side effects? - "rcsyslog stop" / "systemctl stop syslog.service" does not work, syslog-ng starts immediately again (also affects rsyslog). - after a "kill -9" on syslog-ng, "systemctl status syslog.service" shows syslog-ng active/running and exited/killed at the same time :-) It can't be started again by "systemctl start syslog.service" - I don't know, if /dev/log vs. /run/systemd/journal/syslog should be addressed in syslog-ng.conf Bye, CzP * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Help with %files
by Robert Schweikert 07 Feb '12

07 Feb '12

Hi, Could someone please take a look at https://build.opensuse.org/package/live_build_log?arch=x86_64&package=coreu… I am trying to keep the binaries in /usr/bin and somehow I managed that the file with the files to pack list is no longer getting picked up. The modified (as compared to Base:System) specfile can be found here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=coreutils.spec&package=co… The changes are not very invasive and are mostly bracketed by #UsrMerge, #EndUsrMerge When building locally the bin.files file is created as expected and contains the expected content. Yet it appears that the file is being ignored, despite %files -f bin.files Help is appreciated. Thanks, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Announcing the (unofficial) bleeding edge Chromium builds
by Ismail Dönmez 07 Feb '12

07 Feb '12

Hi all, As a person who loves bleeding edge stuff I am providing unofficial daily Chromium builds in home:namtrac:chromium [0] repository. I try to update it every day but no promises. Please note that unstable software can harm your computer, your cat and even your dog. Think of this as Canary builds ;-) Regards. [0] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Anamtrac%3Achromium -- İsmail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New package - python-pymetar
by Malcolm 06 Feb '12

06 Feb '12

Hi I would like to introduce python-pymetar to Factory. The package currently is maintained in the devel:languages:python repository. This library downloads the weather report for a given station ID decodes it and provides easy access to all the data found in the report. The purpose of python-pymetar in factory will enable the introduction on the weather-wallpaper package currently proposed for GNOME:Apps -> Factory, this package contains the python bindings necessary for the weather-wallpaper. The upstream package is in development at; http://git.schwarzvogel.de/?p=pymetar-old;a=summary Homepage =========== http://schwarzvogel.de/software-pymetar.shtml Mailing List =========== http://kaini.schwarzvogel.de/mailman/listinfo/pymetar-dev Bug Report =========== Via email to klausman{at}schwarzvoge{dot}de -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) Kernel 3.1.9-1.4-desktop up 1 day 18:29, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.04, 0.05 CPU Intel i5 CPU M520(a)2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] firebird 2.5 for openSUSE 12.2
by Mariusz Fik 06 Feb '12

06 Feb '12

Hi, firebird 2.5.0 is availabe since October 04, 2010 while updated 2.5.1 is few months old. Maybe it is good time to update our firebird packages in Factory? We can find firebird25 packages in home:mkubecek:firebird25 repo so they could be used I think. https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Amkubecek%3Afirebird25 -- Pozdrawiam / Best regards, Mariusz Fik openSUSE Community Member GPG: 5FCE 7241 B3B9 32FD 455B C30E 42D6 6C88 9E83 7C3D

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[opensuse-factory] How do you control the fan on a ThinkPad without /proc/acpi/ibm in 12.1?
by Roman Bysh 03 Feb '12

03 Feb '12

Hello all, I'm trying to help out on the Laptop forum on fan control. How does one control the fan on a ThinkPad now that /proc/acpi/ibm is missing after running update? Cheers! Roman ------------------------------------------------------------------ openSUSE Linux -- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://counter.li.org #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] maxima
by Alin Marin Elena 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Hi All, Maxima in opensuse education is pretty old... .17 against .25 the current which is available in science repo. Though I was wondering why maxima is missing from the normal repo as we provide a frontend for it (cantor). Shall I submit maxima to factory? Alin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] apparmor no longer default install ??
by Patrick Shanahan 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Having had apparmor packages installed for the last several versions of openSUSE, from memory: 10.2, 11.1, 11,2, 11.4, the fresh install of 12.1 I did did not/does not contain apparmor. But, my upgrade (tumbleweed) from 11.4 does. Also my factory install does not inlude apparmor. Is apparmor no longer installed by default? I am trying to determine why I have problems mounting/auto-mounting removable devices in my upgraded 11.4 --> 12.1 system. My fresh install 12.1 system does provide mounting/auto-mounting of removable devices. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] moving everyting to /usr
by Greg KH 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Here's a good document describing the why behind this type of change: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge It's something that I think we should push for 12.2 if at all possible. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Wresting control from systemd
by Mike Galbraith 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

Greetings, Recovering from a completely disasterous update to 12.1, I find that systemd has automated cgroups. This is less than useless to me, I need to turn this stuff off so I can set things up as needed, when needed. Where does one find the config and on/off switch? marge:~ # cat /proc/$$/cgroup 9:perf_event:/ 8:blkio:/ 7:net_cls:/ 6:freezer:/ 5:devices:/ 4:memory:/ 3:cpuacct,cpu:/ 2:cpuset:/ 1:name=systemd:/user/root/66 That absolutely must die, but /etc/systemd/system.conf doesn't seem to be the right spot to kill it, as everything there is commented out. Also, 12.1 stole my /media mount point, and mounts it tmpfs. Where is that set up? Nuking it in init scripts didn't prevent it being mounted. Box seems determined to do it's own thing, but I'd like it do my thing instead, so need to find out how to talk to newfangled systemd gizmo. Guess I'll get used to systemd eventually, and maybe even become fond (ha) of it someday... but atm, it's just annoying. -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] KDE4.8/QT bug is still there
by C 02 Feb '12

02 Feb '12

This bug seems to be getting worse with each release of KDE4 :-( Reported here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469 and here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292057 Basic symptoms: - open an application, and it may or may not actually show up in the Task Manager/Panel - close an application and it may or may not be removed from the Task Manager/Panel It essentially makes the Task Manager unreliable and unusable. The KDE guys say it's a bug in QT and there's nothing they can do about it beyond referring it upstream to QT. There appears to be some patches in the works - is there anything we can do from our side to speed this up.. or include the patches (backporting?) to make KDE4 more usable. I've got one more to add to the list - run a full screen application (game) and when you return to the desktop, the panel and the entire desktop will not respond to click for up to 30 seconds although the mouse is working fine, and if I Alt+Tab I can open/use apps that were minimized. At some point, 30 to 45 seconds after exiting the full screen app (game), the desktop is repainted and becomes responsive again. All clicks you made during that period appear to be queued up and a whole lot of things happen at once as things catch up. I haven't yet found a bug report at KDE for this one... not sure on the right keywords for searching. Will keep trying :-P C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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