July 2011 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Any chance of adding Realtek RTL8111/8168B Driver to Factory/Tumbleweed?
by Mark Gray 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

It is a funny thing, but I have three Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controllers -- two of them work quite well with the r8169 driver, but one started getting so many framing errors using that driver that I was forced to download the r8168 driver that Realtek wrote from their website. It works perfectly, but I notice that it still is not included in the 3.0.rc6-2.2 kernel. It would be great to have it officially available from openSUSE as soon as possible since there are a lot of other people having problems using the r8169 driver with this chipset. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed breaks zypper's nfs:// repo uri's
by Mark Gray 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

For some reason after using zypper dup to switch to Tumbleweed, all my nfs:// repo uri's no longer work -- zypper just gives an error message: Failed to mount x2:/SDB2/ARK/Tumbleweed/standard on /var/adm/mount/AP_0x00000001: Unable to verify that the media was mounted This is _not_ a big problem for me, since nfs works perfectly well, so I am able to work around the problem by mounting the remote file system before running zypper and using a dir:// uri instead, but I was wondering if I am the only one to have run into the problem. (Tumbleweed is a great idea BTW -- many thanks for implementing it.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed - Virtualbox policy and Thunderbird
by Tim 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

Hi, I have read some time ago that Virtualbox was removed from Tumbleweed because of the not so easy maintainable kernel source. If Virtualbox doesn't support the Tumbleweed Kernel version out of the box it is fine that Virtualbox isn't compiled in Tumbleweed but if it does support it the effort can't be that high I suppose? So isn't it possible to ship the Virtualbox kernel module as soon as it is supported from the vendor? In general I would prefer something like DKMS for openSUSE. It is stupid that a kernel version is "hardcoded" in one version while the sources are available and other Kernels are supported. With DKMS we wouldn't have the problem now I suppose. Anyway this is another issue, not a Tumbleweed one. A MozillaThunderbird 5 upgrade with the compatible Enigmail would be great. It is already in factory. Thanks Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] LLVM 3 missing symbol
by Vincent Lejeune 17 Jul '11

17 Jul '11

Hi, when I build Mesa 7.11 rc1 for openSUSE Factory, I get the following error msg : undefined reference to `LLVMAddTypeName' Using objdump in all /usr/lib*/libLLVM* show me that such a symbol is not present (it might be in a mangled form nevertheless) A LLVMAddTypeName function is however in LLVMCore.c file, and in llvm-c/Core.h include file. I don't know if it's intended (LLVM3 API is constantly changing these days), could someone have a look ? Regards, Vincent -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] upcoming features!
by Jos Poortvliet 16 Jul '11

16 Jul '11

Hi all, A bit of a reminder as well as a thank you for the page about upcoming features for openSUSE 12.1. I saw some people have added some features, which is great! If you want to talk about openSUSE 12.1 and what is coming, use it: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Upcoming_features If you KNOW what might come or are working on something, OR can fix something - please do! Cheers, Jos

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[opensuse-factory] I'm a user, and I don't want systemd
by Joe User 15 Jul '11

15 Jul '11

Users who want systemd can choose it during install. But it's too big a change to be the default choice. I don't want to change, until it's been proven and polished for several years. I'm also opposed to dumping everything into /usr. I *like* having /bin vs. /usr/bin, /lib vs. /usr/lib, and /sbin vs. /usr/sbin. If you need shared read only mounts for executables, then improve mount and/or the kernel so you can easily mount multiple paths all at once, to the same device. Don't force your organizational prejudices on me. I'm a user, and I want what I want. Question is, do you want users, or not? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Samba going 3.6.0 (rc2)
by Lars Müller 15 Jul '11

15 Jul '11

Hi, today we requested to get Samba 3.6.0 rc2 into openSUSE Factory. There are big changes coming with this release. As a curious user willing to know what's going on you have several information sources available: a) WHATSNEW.txt available from the samba-doc package in /usr/share/doc/packages/samba/ as soon as you install from network:samba:TESTING or online at http://ftp.samba.org/pub/samba/rc/WHATSNEW-3-6-0rc2.txt b) The package change log as available from rpm. There you find references to bugzilla.samba.org (bso) reports as to those filed at bugzilla.novell.com (bnc). Please check http://en.openSUSE.org/Samba for general information on Samba as part of openSUSE and a bug reporting how to. To make contribution easier possible in the future, we're currently in the process to migrate the SUSE Samba package sources preparation to a similar way as the SUSE kernel is maintained. Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

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Re: [opensuse-factory] GeForce 8600 GT-all outputs disconnected in 12.1M3
by Felix Miata 15 Jul '11

15 Jul '11

On 2011/07/15 16:19 (GMT-0500) Donn Washburn composed: > Felix Miata wrote: >> I tried booting using a DVI to VGA adapter. That only works until X >> starts. The screen blanks and the OS hard locks starting runlevel 5. > You can buy a adapter at someplace for about 7 dollars. Maybe Radio > Shack or Frys would have the. I have a similar card and I am using one. A what adapter? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed - errors about /var/lock/subsys startup from /etc/init.d/syslog
by Rob OpenSuSE 15 Jul '11

15 Jul '11

/var/lock is tmpfs and looks like nothing makes /var/lock/subsys which is used by (at least) /etc/init.d/syslog to detect whether earlysyslog has been run already for instance. There may be other structural directories missing. The messages appear on console, but are easiest seen if you boot into runlevel 2, very easy to miss on 5 especially with preload errors. Regards Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ungifsicle issues
by Werner LEMBERG 15 Jul '11

15 Jul '11

Folks, the ungifsicle package uses version 1.39, which has appeared in July 2003 (!). Today, the GIF patents have expired (since 2006), and the current version is 1.62 from April 2011. I thus suggest to remove ungifsicle completely, replacing it with a recent version of gifsicle which produces GIF images with a compression normally better by a factor 2. Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Can webpin be fixed or will it be removed completely?
by Roman Bysh 15 Jul '11

15 Jul '11

Hello all, Will "webpin" be fixed or will it be removed completely? I have not seen it work in openSUSE 11.4. Can we see it working in the up coming openSUSE 12.1? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] any users of "opie" one time passwords?
by Marcus Meissner 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 11:33:01AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > On Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:30:16 Marcus Meissner wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Are there any users of opie driven OneTimePasswords left? > > It's used by some packages at luest: > - cyrus-imapd > - cyrus-sasl > - cyrus-sasl-saslauthd > - fetchmail I would remove it from those users. The first thing to know is if anyone uses them still, be it for login or for email. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE Conference registration open!
by Jos Poortvliet 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

The organization team is excited to announce that the registration for the openSUSE Conference, from September 11 to 14 in Nürnberg, is now open. Head over to our registration form and register to help us plan for a great event! http://bit.ly/r2mxGN Preparations Two months from now the openSUSE and SUSE Labs Conference will kick off in Nuremberg, Germany. That means, as flights don’t get cheaper, you have to start planning your days off, your trip, hotel and send in a talk while the CfP is still open! Hotel The openSUSE conference team has made a list of hotels where you can book your stay for the duration of the conference. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_hotels It is recommended to use these hotels as they will not only have fellow geekos in them but are also for special conference prices and not too far from our location, Zentrifuge. Financial travel support For some of you, the trip to Nuremberg is financially not easy. You might be a student, or have to fly in all the way from India. We know that very well and you can count on an announcement of the what and how of travel subsidy soon. We will do everything we can to ensure our community members from far away or on low budget are also able to come and join us! Visa Another important thing to think of in time is access to Europe/Germany. We have a standard invitation letter you can get from us on request. For that, send a mail with some personal details (who you are, what you do for openSUSE, what you will do at the conf, that stuff) to opensuse-conference(a)opensuse.org and the team will send you one. Registration Registering makes sure there’s a badge for you at the conference, you won’t have to wait in line for us to create one for you on the spot. It’ll also make sure you are able to go on the wifi and we have a place for you at the party. And of course it allows us to plan better so it matters a lot that you register as soon as possible if you intend to come! http://bit.ly/r2mxGN Please note that for the registration, you don’t have to create an account. Last but not least, there is an option between two different tickets. Entrance is free for all but those who want to support the conference and can afford it can buy a professional ticket. For $350 or €250 you get, besides access to the conference, a networking dinner with the speakers and other professional ticket holders as well as a session with SUSE Product Management. Helping Out Meanwhile, the conference team is welcomes all the help it can get! If you want to get involved and help us make the openSUSE conference the best ever, please subscribe to the team mailinglist: opensuse-conference(a)opensuse.org and checkout the planning page.

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[opensuse-factory] 12.1 M2 and Lotus Notes
by Andreas.C.Klein＠physik.uni-wuerzburg.de 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

Hi, I just installed 12.1 M2 on my Lenovo W520. I experienced some issues with the Notes Client. Installation of Notes 8.5.2FP2 went fine, but there are two problems: - To get "normal" colours in the menu-bar you have to start gnome-settings-daemon first. This problem exists for all gtk-based applications when you are using fvwm as window manager. - The getting started tab is displayed correctly. The Home, Workspace and Replication and Sync tab are simply grey. In the mail-view the subject line of each mail is visible, but the preview pane stays empty. When opening an email in a new tab, the view isn't refreshed. You will still see the picture of the previous active tab. Switching to another desktop and back again leaves you with an all grey image on the mail tab. I use this notesversion without problems on 11.1-Evergreen and SLED11. On both releases I also don't need to start the gnome-settings-daemon to get firefox, pidgin, notes ... displaying "normal" menus when using fvwm. I also noticed, that tapping with the touchpad is possible with KDE. Using fvwm I have to start gsynaptics to use tapping. Using network manager and fvwm seems to be no good idea. I tried to start nm-applet, but it didn't work. Is this supposed to work with fvwm, or just with gnome? Best regards, andreas klein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] fltk 1.3
by Petr Gajdos 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

Hi all, I have just submitted fltk 1.3 into factory. As soon as it will be accepted and propagated into factory, there will arise several build failures there: packages ZynAddSubFX, xdiskusage, prozgui and alsamixergui. I provide fltk13.patches for them which should fix these build errors. Some of them are workarounds and I am sure their maintainers or upstream will see better solution. For fltk and prozgui submission for factory see request #76116 and request #76121 respectively. Requests #76117, #76118 and #76119 are for ZynAddSubFX, xdiskusage and alsamixergui against their devel projects. See home:pgajdos:fltk13 for details. Petr

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[opensuse-factory] ISO image content
by Robert Schweikert 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

Hi, I've recently run across a problem while building an image with KIWI and using only the openSUSE 11.4 ISO image as repo. For certain image types (pxe and oem) KIWI requires busybox which is not part of the ISO and therefore the KIWI image build process fails when only using the ISO as a source repo. The KIWI boot image descriptions list the packages required for creation of the KIWI boot images, I think we should make sure that at least those packages are on the media. The reasoning is, that I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone who wants to spin their own image with only packages from the "standard" distro to expect that all those packages are on the media. Therefore, one would set up only the ISO image as a repo and create an image with KIWI. Missing busyboz forces the use of the online repo, or setup of a local mirror or some other concoction, which makes this process more cumbersome than it needs to be. It should be fairly easy to write a script that parses the boot descriptions provided with KIWI and to assure those packages are on the media. Thoughts/comments? Thanks, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei(a)suse.com rschweik(a)ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] guile 2.0
by Petr Gajdos 14 Jul '11

14 Jul '11

Hi all, I am about to submit guile 2.0.1 into Factory if no one have any objections. It requires newer gc, I have chosen 7.2alpha6. gnucash will get updated to 2.4.6 by the way. gnome-games, trackballs and autogen packages wanted some small changes to build against new guile, I have named them %{name}-guile-2.0.patch. I am still working on lilypond, I hope I will finish it soon. See home:pgajdos:guile19x for details. Any comments? Petr

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[opensuse-factory] oSC conference deadline extended, we want more interactivity!!!
by Jos Poortvliet 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

Hi all, Let me start with the important part: =========== We want you to THINK MORE ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR WORK for this openSUSE conference. What do YOU want to accomplish? What does YOUR team need to talk about? What features should be finished? What decisions should be made? Use the conference for that! PLEASE SEND IN BoF PROPOSALS for oSC! They take no preparation and barely any work as 'leader' - it's just an informal get-together. Yes, you can do that over dinner too, but - nobody takes notes, lots of beer... A BoF is NOT any more formal than a dinner meet but it does ensure the participants are focussed on the discussion, not the food, and sober ;-) Sending in a BoF proposal ensures you get a room for 40 minutes with no strings attached. And you never know who suddenly shows up and happens to be willing and able to take on some work! Aside from BoF's, we love more workshops and hack sessions. How about a hack session to fix up one or two modules in YaST. Or fix some kernel bugs. Or get a bunch of perl updates packaged. Or, to get more people working on your stuff, a workshop "hacking on YaST". A workshop "porting your app from sysv to systemd"... Register your session here: http://bit.ly/nsycEP ============ About the oSC deadline: Last monday the deadline for the oSC CfP was extended. We had a fair number of submissions already but the "interactive" proportion of sessions wasn't what we hoped. I'm sure that's partially due to lack of clarity about what we want, so let me try to explain a bit here too. We want to get more 'work done' at oSC. And focus more strongly on openSUSE. The last conference had many non-openSUSE people and the results were great - but for openSUSE it wasn't what it could've been. Now many of us get together only once a year at the conf and we could do more than listen to talks, have dinner and drink beer. That's why we want more BoF sessions (essentially team meetings), workshops (eg teach to package better, or test, or ...) and hack sessions (get together and do work). Each of these sessions we'll try to explain more. The BoF was explained a few weeks ago [1] and today the workshop will get some attention [2]. Next week I hope to get something out on how to efficiently do a hack session. Be sure to read http://news.opensuse.org regularly and send in your proposals here: http://bit.ly/nsycEP Cheers, the CfP committee and the Conference team [1] http://bit.ly/lIzf5E [2] on http://news.opensuse.org around 17:00 EU time

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[opensuse-factory] related too read-only mounted partitions like /root...
by Linda Walsh 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

I got a rude surprise when I tried to do fastboot over the weekend. While turning on seems if you do a fast boot, and skip the fsck, your file systems never get mounted RW! Um......fast boot never USED to mean boot read/only... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Request to add 2 patches to kernel-* in Kernel:stable
by Vincent Lejeune 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

Hi, Is it possible to add these two patches to kernel 2.6.39 in Kernel:stable ? http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;… http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;… These patches solve rendering corruption/crashes with radeon driver on evergreen+ asic( apu that ships on AMD Zacate/Lano cpu). I already tested them in a local repository and can ensure they work on my netbook : https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Avlj%3Abranches%3AKer… However I'm not good at kernel packaging and used classic %patch macros instead of having them tarzipped. Vincent -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] mobilebroadband and other daemons
by Oliver Neukum 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

Alin, Hans-Petter, HP could this be a variant of bnc#668838? From the log it looks like detection worked, but the response to the test script makes me wonder. Regards Oliver Am Montag, 11. Juli 2011, 10:46:28 schrieb Alin Marin Elena: > Hi Oliver, > > ok... I got a new log... > > just how I generated > rcnetwork stop > modem-manager --debug > rcnetwork start > > attached the dongle > > nm-tool does not list the device... attached the log to the message > > then I used their testing script > wget http://cgit.freedesktop.org/ModemManager/ModemManager/plain/test/mm- > test.py > > and > [root@abbaton:/home/alin]: ./mm-test.py > GSM modem > Driver: 'option1' > Modem device: '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.1/usb2/2-4' > Data device: 'ttyUSB0' > Error enabling modem: org.freedesktop.ModemManager.Modem.Gsm.SimPinRequired: > SIM PIN required > > of course no window to ask me about pin appeared... > Now I am more and more troubled on where the error is... > > regards, > Alin > > > On Monday 11 July 2011 10:32:37 you wrote: > > Am Montag, 11. Juli 2011, 10:06:23 schrieb Alin Marin Elena: > > > This is how I discovered that a rcnetwork restart can be used as a > > > workaround... > > > > > > I stopped the network > > > killed modemmanager > > > start it with --debug > > > and then started > > > the network manager with debug > > > > > > then the device for dongle was listed.... > > > > > > then I just rebooted the machine, did a rcnetwork restart and the device > > > was there... > > > I added the log for modemmanager... > > > > Hi, > > > > soory this is an incorrect procedure. You need to connect the > > device after you've restarted ModemManager with "--debug" > > > > Regards > > Oliver > -- > Without Questions there are no Answers! > _____________________________________________________________________ > Alin Marin ELENA > Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory > School of Physics, University College Dublin > ---- > Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde > Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://alin.elenaworld.net > ______________________________________________________________________ -- - - - SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany - - - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Request to change MS6 to Beta
by Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

> 2011/7/7 Rob OpenSuSE <rob.opensuse.linux(a)gmail.com> >> >> On 7 July 2011 09:52, Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> wrote: >> > Am Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 schrieb Larry Finger: >> > >> > I seriously wonder why you think that beta releases attract more testers - >> > taking that we had "beta"s before and changed to milestones because people >> > were supposedly scared away from the term beta. Now you want the term beta >> > back - but I'm willing to try. The question though is: how do you measure if >> > it made any difference? >> >> Put up 12.1 M6 & 12.1 Beta for download on same day and see which ppl choose ;) >> Rule would be to market 12.1 M6 in usual project news way and let ppl >> spread the simpler message about 12.1 Beta. >> >> May be say clearly that 12.1 "Beta" -> 12.1 is a feasible upgrade the >> project supports (no drastic changes expected?). >> >> Think yet another Milestone release, is harder to market than a new >> label like Beta. >> >> Must be why folk use terms like, RC, GM or "final" or noone would >> bother with them, but say 12.1.0.0, 12.1.1, 12.1.0.2, .. 12.1.0.11, >> 12.1.1.0 and so on. >> Few years back, I noticed (& asked why) smolt was disabled, but >> there's not going to be definite answers until some kind donor >> facilitates a stats gathering server, so there's data collated bit >> like (Debian's popcorn). >> Maybe we should switch the name from milestone to RC to attract even more testers ;-) Regards, Luiz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] permission.local
by Donn Washburn 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

I have set permissions and modes in /etc/permission.local. Rebooted and that information is being overlooked in 12.1. Who or what is place do that? udev, sysconfig or a boot script. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Skype:n5xwbg BMWMOA #:4146 Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SR#74084 is being reviewed for 2 months
by Jiri Slaby 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

Hi, similar to the past post on this list, I have a SR pending for review by the legal-team. It's been 2 months since I did first submission. Then I updated the package and superseded the original SR by this one. But it's still in the review state. For few weeks without noticing again. Does anyone know what's going on? thanks, -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Related to read only mounted partitions like /usr
by Dr. Werner Fink 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Hi related to the systemd/sysvinit/udev problematic there is also the problem that currently zypper nor yast2 supports read only mounted partitions. It could be a win if zypper or yast would be able to detect that a path covered by a package is located on a read only mounted partition. For this I'd like to suggest an option to temporary remount such a partiton read/write during installation. This does not only help with old-fashion /usr partitons out there but e.g. also a read only mounted root file system with attached read/write mounted /tmp, /var, and maybe /etc partition, where the last one is mounted in the initramfs. Werrner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New package makeself
by Malcolm 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Hi I would like to introduce makeself to Factory. The package currently is maintained in the utilities repository. The purpose of makeself in Factory will enable an enduser to generates a self-extractable tar.gz archive from a directory. The resulting file appears as a shell script (many of those have a .run suffix), and can be launched as is. The upstream package is in development at; https://github.com/megastep/makeself Along with more detailed information here; https://github.com/megastep/makeself/blob/master/README.md Homepage =========== http://www.megastep.org/makeself/ Bug Report =========== https://bugzilla.icculus.org/ -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop up 1 day 16:42, 4 users, load average: 0.11, 0.09, 0.13 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 270.41.19 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] FF 7.0 (was: Are there plans for changing the default browser?)
by Rob OpenSuSE 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Running Aurora under openSUSE 11.4 right now, once again release early & release often, seems to be working! "Mozilla has announced the release of Firefox 7 into the Aurora Channel. According to the release notes, the latest developer preview is "focused on delivering performance enhancements and optimizing memory utilization", addressing a problem that long-time users of the open… " So the main issues I have with the alpha is my oxygen-gtk theme not being picked up and flash-plugin, undoubtedly my faulty configuration. To my surprise the biggie plugins NoScript, Adblock Plus & WoT are already cleared and working (also HashColouredTabs+). Not bad considering release was announced July 7th - http://blog.mozilla.com/futurereleases/2011/07/07/firefoxaurora7/ Think ppl are likely to complain about lack of user visible changes, I'm finding it very familiar despite the alien GTK look, of Mozzila's 32 bit download. Thread in forum for feedback & share time saving tips, like how to get the download started - http://forums.opensuse.org/forums/english/get-technical-help-here/pre-relea… So far FF4 brought in UI changes, which are nice once you get used to it. Since then it seems mostly bug fixes and performance improvements, with Add On ppl even supporting the Alphas. Bit boring & non-buggy so far! Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Installing Factory-tested from NET iso
by Steven Sroka 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

This is probably a WONTFIX since probably not many people install openSUSE directly from factory-tested using the NET iso, but I do, so that I can look for Yast2 installer regressions. Anyway, during first boot for the past few days, I've been a dhcp error message and then boot hangs. This is right at the beginning of boot. <quote> Welcome to openSUSE 12.1 "Asparagus" etc. linux.site login : [<timestamp here>] dhcpcd[1032]: eth0: Failed to lookup hostname via DNS: Name of service not known. </quote> I have no issue downloading the packages from the openSUSE servers during install, but during boot I guess something can't connect to the internet. BTW, I'm using Systemd, I wonder if that is the problem..... I can send in a bug report, but since I'm using the factory-tested repo it might not be useful. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Build kernel with CONFIG_DRM_VMWGFX=m
by Vincent Lejeune 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Hi, the vmwgfx driver is becoming ready for testing ; this vmware written video driver is targeting virtualised system running on a vmware virtualisation tool. With the right Mesa gallium component, it enables 3D acceleration on virtualised guest, using host hardware (from windows or linux system). Is it possible to enable the kernel module for VMWGFX to be built ? It might help testing gnome-shell (with mutter ux) safely inside a vmware box. Vincent -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Some second thoughts on systemd/sysvinit/udev
by Dr. Werner Fink 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

Hi to every one, I'd like to do some notes on the topic how become systemd or should I better say udev better integrated in the current system scheme regardless of the used init. First of all as already mentioned the real problem why e.g. old-fashioned /usr isn't supported as an own partition by systemd (or better systemd warns about such a fact) is that the rules expanded by udev do not know about dependency orders on boot passed through by systemd as well as by the traditional sysvinit. This will lead e.g. to problems for the faciltiy `$remote_fs' defined by LSB specs. To solve this problem the udevd should be able to understand the dependencies of the services provided by the boot scripts of sysvinit as well as the dependencies of the systemd service configuration files. It would be perfect that achieving such dependencies could be understood as events within udev rules. The question is how to expand and resolve e.g. the LSB dependency rules of traditional boot scripts or e.g. the systemd configuration files for udev. IMHO this would require at least also a notification for udev which could be done by systemd and for sysvinit within the main boot scripts or the startpar utility used by main boot scripts. Currently udevadm seems to be able to do this on base of devices. Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] mobilebroadband and other daemons
by Alin Marin Elena 11 Jul '11

11 Jul '11

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[opensuse-factory] Kcalc not working correctly
by Freigeist 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

Hello all, since the last Tumbleweed update Kcalc does not accept entering numbers by keyboard or numpad anymore. It is only possible to enter numbers by mouse. kcalc --version gives the following result: Qt: 4.7.3 KDE: 4.6.5 (4.6.5) "release 5" KCalc: 2.8 Can anybody confirm this? Thanks, Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ofed/infiniband support on Opensuse 11.4 ?
by Mora, Joshua 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

Hello, Is ofed/infiniband supported on OpenSuse 11.4 ? Thanks, Joshua -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] mobilebroadband and other daemons
by Alin Marin Elena 09 Jul '11

09 Jul '11

Hi, I am using, or better said try to use, an usb dongle to connect to internet... Until begining of July it seemed to work perfectly on factory and kde-trunk... but suddenly decided that is holiday season and stopped working. I have the network manager from 07/07/2011 installed... at least this is what it claims... and with both nm-gnome and the plasmoid I have the same results... the modem is not accessible at all... I checked nm-tool and the device is not listed... I checked /var/log./NetworkManager log and rien... nobody heard about my modem their... dmesg is at least nicer (all the log from the time I dissconet to the time I connect it back) [ 661.374836] usb 2-4: USB disconnect, device number 8 [ 661.374950] option: option_instat_callback: error -108 [ 661.375075] option1 ttyUSB0: GSM modem (1-port) converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 [ 661.375092] option 2-4:1.0: device disconnected [ 661.375128] cdc_ether 2-4:1.1: wwan0: unregister 'cdc_ether' usb-0000:00:06.1-4, Mobile Broadband Network Device [ 661.380250] option1 ttyUSB1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 [ 661.380265] option 2-4:1.3: device disconnected [ 661.380334] option1 ttyUSB2: GSM modem (1-port) converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2 [ 661.380346] option 2-4:1.4: device disconnected [ 668.618034] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device number 9 using ehci_hcd [ 668.734307] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=12d1, idProduct=1446 [ 668.734311] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [ 668.734313] usb 2-4: Product: HUAWEI Mobile [ 668.734315] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: HUAWEI Technology [ 668.738351] scsi18 : usb-storage 2-4:1.0 [ 668.738539] scsi19 : usb-storage 2-4:1.1 [ 669.382088] usb 2-4: USB disconnect, device number 9 [ 674.477033] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device number 10 using ehci_hcd [ 674.592931] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=12d1, idProduct=1436 [ 674.592935] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=4, Product=3, SerialNumber=0 [ 674.592937] usb 2-4: Product: HUAWEI Mobile [ 674.592939] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: HUAWEI Technology [ 674.595848] option 2-4:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected [ 674.595960] usb 2-4: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0 [ 674.703514] cdc_ether 2-4:1.1: wwan0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:06.1-4, Mobile Broadband Network Device, 02:50:f3:00:00:00 [ 674.704021] option 2-4:1.3: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected [ 674.704132] usb 2-4: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1 [ 674.704283] option 2-4:1.4: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected [ 674.704342] usb 2-4: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB2 [ 674.705285] scsi24 : usb-storage 2-4:1.5 [ 674.706156] scsi25 : usb-storage 2-4:1.6 [ 675.710434] scsi 24:0:0:0: CD-ROM HUAWEI Mass Storage 2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 675.710571] scsi 25:0:0:0: Direct-Access HUAWEI SD Storage 2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 675.710731] sd 25:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 [ 675.714195] sr1: scsi-1 drive [ 675.714328] sr 24:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 [ 675.714407] sr 24:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 5 [ 675.718532] sd 25:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk I am a little bit puzzled on why the device is seen as a high speed usb crap... Any advice much appreciated! regards, Alin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] locking its deps no longer prevents replacement of FF3.6 with FF5
by Felix Miata 09 Jul '11

09 Jul '11

One might think this belongs in some other list because AFAICT FF3.6 is no longer available in 12.1. Nevertheless, those with the knowledge and the power to do anything should more likely see this than some post elsewhere. How is subject possible? I strongly object to UI changes that came about in FF4, and so enable the Mozilla repo and 'zypper al mozilla-xulrunner20 mozilla-js20' in 11.3, 11.4 & Tumbleweeds to prevent installation of FF post-3.6. This worked until about yesterday. Now FF5 installs anyway. How is one supposed to keep getting automatic upgrades from the 3.6 branch if locking out dep 20s doesn't work? Are required js and xulrunner now built into FF5 instead of it using support packages, like a static build? Also, shouldn't dup be required instead of up to get 3.6 branch replaced by 5.0 branch? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed - Packman package conflict - kopete, linphone, libmediastreamer - Need To Update Factory Packages?
by Rob OpenSuSE 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

Have searched for some discussion of this on list, but didn't turn anything up recent (only things imply linphone version in distro, tends to be stale). The scoop as I see it is : OS 11.4 / Factory kopete 4.6 rpm - requires linphone 3.3, because of bundled lib libmediastreamer.so.0 Packman provides linphone 3.4, libmediastramer unbundled libmediastreamer (Mediastreamer 2?) provides libmediastreamer.so.1 (not sure if the .so.1 version reflects lib API change) This means zypper objects to having both Packman linphone & kopete on system, in general Packman Multi-media is desired to avoid necessary distro codec restrictions. Tumbleweed & Factory, offer kopete 4.6.5 & linphone 3.3 but no unbundled lib libmediastramer In general unbundling libraries seems like a good idea to avoid unwanted application dependency cycles, and Packman has built upgraded linphone & libmediastreamer packages, so that part ought not to be problematic. Fedora have a "No Bundling" policy, presumably it's discouraged in openSUSE for technical software engineering reasons (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries#Why_no_Bundled… explains). May be there's problems porting kopete to new version of libmediastreamer, or is it simply that some labour is required to update the linphone & libmediastramer packages? Anyone looked at this? It seems like an issue that ought to be sorted for 12.1. Whilst I'd be happy to try and build the package updates, I'm not the best person as currently I have NEVER used kopete or linphone nor submitted packages to Factory. Suggestions? Does it help to look into building kopete against updated linphone & libmediastreamer? Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] using suse build service -- supposedly easy -- doesn't work at all (can't even checkout a package or see avail distros)
by Linda Walsh 08 Jul '11

08 Jul '11

Per Jessen wrote: > Linda Walsh wrote: > >> Per Jessen wrote: >>> could you summarize what it is you're trying to do, please? It's not >>> really very clear from the above. >> Any of the examples from the wiki... >> >> When someone earlier suggested I build a product using osc, that >> wouldn't work either. > > I asked a similar question at some point - this page was really helpful: > > http://lizards.opensuse.org/2009/06/20/opensuse-factory-fixing-packages/ ---- That's where I started .... and the process doesn't work... I got past the zipper d/l install of osc, Then with the next command: osc branch openSUSE:Factory knock Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (after it brought up vim to have me write my 'purpose'...) The rest is dependent on on that step.... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Request to change MS6 to Beta
by Larry Finger 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

This is a request for changing the name of the MS6 release to Beta. The Testing Core Team (TCT) discussed the general problem of testing of new releases. With openQA, the probability that Factory iso's will boot and install is greatly increased; however, with the current system, many users do not start testing until RC1 is ready. As a result, there is very little time for detecting and fixing the bugs that will only be seen with a workload that is diverse. Such early testing will be particularly important for 12.1. Not only have we regularized the release schedule and naming scheme and need to follow through with a high-quality product, but we are behind due to the early build problems. The TCT considered several possible changes to entice earlier and broader testing. The schedule does not have much flexibility to increase the time between the RC1 and GM releases, thus we probably need to indulge in some 'social engineering' to get earlier testing. We could change from 6 Milestone and 2 RC releases to 5 and 3, respectively, without tampering with the total time. Alternatively, we could rename from MS6 to Beta. The TCT favors the latter option. It might mislead the users/testers a little regarding the quality of the offering, but we don't think calling MS6 "Beta" is misleading. By most definitions, Beta means feature-complete and free of huge bugs - we should be able to get that with MS6. A beta release should attract more users. In addition, many of us start full-time usage with MS5 or MS6, thus we know it to be usable for many people. Thanks for considering this proposal to further enhance the user experience and the quality of the final 12.1 release. This proposal is supported (in no particular order) by Larry Finger, Bernhard M. Wiedemann, Refilwe Seete, Holger Sickenberg, Jürgen Radzuweit, Bruno Friedmann, Ismail Doenmez, and Peter Czanik. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] any users of "opie" one time passwords?
by Andreas Jaeger 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

On Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:30:16 Marcus Meissner wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any users of opie driven OneTimePasswords left? It's used by some packages at luest: - cyrus-imapd - cyrus-sasl - cyrus-sasl-saslauthd - fetchmail > The code quality of opie is bad and I would like to drop it, if there are > no users. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] any users of "opie" one time passwords?
by Marcus Meissner 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Hi, Are there any users of opie driven OneTimePasswords left? The code quality of opie is bad and I would like to drop it, if there are no users. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Banshee and ndesk-dbus-glib, a case of terror...
by Nelson Marques 06 Jul '11

06 Jul '11

Hi all, For quite some time I've been struggling with a problem which wasn't easy to spot, at least for me. Banshee 2.1.0 drops ndesk-dbus-glib and uses now dbus-sharp-glib. The Project config for Factory (and others) has a prefer entry for ndesk-dbus-glib, and this will kill Banshee for sure. Thanks to darix I found out we could override this with an entry "#!BuildIgnore: ndesk-dbus-glib". I'm just wondering if that 'Prefer' on the Project Config has a special reason for being there? This is just pure curiosity, I don't mind having the spec to ignore it. Thanks in advance, NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] This new load problem
by Donn Washburn 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

New Headache: Yast2 error. It causes it to lock up New to 12.1 2 QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /root/.config/ibus/bus Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Skype:n5xwbg BMWMOA #:4146 Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status update on systemd for Factory
by Frederic Crozat 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Hi all, here is a update on the work done on systemd for Factory : (beware, email is long !) - basic support for systemctl in chkconfig and insserv is done : it is pending review by maintainer before integration - support for --root in systemctl was merged upstream and will be used by chkconfig/insserv patches above. - a patch has been submitted to upstream systemd to parse insserv.conf : this patch only handle the "system facility" part of insserv.conf and automatically adds depencies specified in the file - quick investigation on Yast2 to adapt runlevel editor for systemctl support : we really need help from other people, as I don't have any knowledge of Yast internal and it seems the yast dbus client part might be missing some parts, needed for runlevel editor to talk with systemd. - no work on /usr as separate partition : it is not a systemd issue in itself but from other programs which might be using data from /usr before /usr is available. The best solution would be to mount /usr from initrd => help needed !! - (open)SUSE is using unofficial LSB target named $ALL which is supposed to put services requiring it at the end of the boot sequence (or at the beginning of shutdown sequence); After discussing with upstream : on a static boot system (sysvinit), it is easy to resolve such dependencies, but it isn't on a dynamic system (systemd). There is a ugly hack to handle that (creating a ALL.target file which is starting after default.target is done) but it would be probably better to just fix the 4 initscripts which are still using $ALL ( amazon-late, stoppreload, Susefirewall2_setup and vboxes). I'll open bug for them. - X-Interactive support in systemd is not working properly : it will only work before getty is started and is broken if you try to start a service after boot. We need to transition packages which are still using X-Interactive to systemd-ask-password (which takes care of the async conversation). Only two packages need to be ported : * apache2, when querying password for SSL certificate : apache allows to start a script to handle the password request. We only need to * openvpn : this one is a bit complex because we can either write a daemon which would do the interface between systemd and openvpn management interface or we can try to patch openvpn to have a similar feature as apache and get this patch upstreamed. The latter has the preference of systemd upstream. For both packages, help is welcome. For compability with sysvinit, support for <interactive> from /etc/insserv.conf in systemd was not added, so we could remove X-Interactive from openvpn/httpd sysvinit scripts but still have the function when booting from /sbin/init, thanks to /etc/insserv.conf list. - /etc/init.d/kbd was not handled properly : this should be fixed in Factory today or tomorrow, with systemd taking care of setting up keyboard properly. However, we might need to improve /etc/sysconfig/keyboard parsing in systemd. More tests are needed (and of course, help is welcome). As you can see, we still have some work to do, but we need everybody help : either on the issues I mentioned (feel free to say "I want to help on this" here) or to do more tests or even to start creating .service files (but we still need to fix the issues listed above). Thanks everybody for your attention. I would be great if we could get the ball moving and maybe get one of the next Factory milestone be a "systemd" test release but to reach this point, we need YOU ! -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat(a)suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: using suse build service -- supposedly easy -- doesn't work at all (can't even checkout a package or see avail distros)
by Linda Walsh 04 Jul '11

04 Jul '11

Per Jessen wrote: > > could you summarize what it is you're trying to do, please? It's not > really very clear from the above. Any of the examples from the wiki... When someone earlier suggested I build a product using osc, that wouldn't work either. I've tried: build (not some sort of pipe connect error at the time -- that was a while back) checkout dists examples: Ishtar:packages/OSbuild/proj> osc list ls Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Ishtar:packages/OSbuild/proj> osc dists Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Ishtar:packages/OSbuild/proj> osc checkout findutils-locate Server returned an error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found ... I have no idea how to start with errors like these... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] The road to systemd for openSUSE 12.1
by Frederic Crozat 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

Hi all, systemd is coming for next openSUSE (12.1) scheduled next fall. I'll help for systemd integration in openSUSE Factory[1] and will act as an interface between you (openSUSE testers, packagers, developers) and systemd upstream. As you might guess, switching boot manager is not a trivial task and issues will be found. So, we want to have as much feedback and testing as possible, to try to tackle as much (if not all) issues in time for 12.1. Here is our action plan, in several phases: * phase 1: detecting current issues with systemd. Install systemd package and "manually" boot with it, by adding "init=/bin/systemd" at you kernel boot command line. In this setup, we want to find ALL the issues caused by switching to systemd, so please, check systemd on Factory status page[2] and follow the instructions there to fill bug reports. We also want to ensure there is no regression, when using legacy sysvinit initscripts with systemd as boot manager. * phase 2: systemd-sysvinit package installed by default and replace sysvinit. * phase 3: providing systemd unit files to replace legacy sysvinit initscripts: this is a huge task which won't be completed before openSUSE 12.1, but it can be parallelized among a lot of people (ideally, each packager should be able to create unit systemd file). And we should also split this effort in manageable milestones : * phase 3.1: GNOME and KDE live CDs should only use "native" systemd, without any sysvinit involved * phase 3.2: installed system using GNOME and KDE live CDs be a "native" systemd (this involves testing additional paths in live installer) * phase 3.3: install from DVD for GNOME and KDE should be "native" systemd Of course, providing systemd unit file should not be a pure "openSUSE" task, because the ultimate goal for those files is to be cross-distribution and merged in relevant upstream projects. And we also don't want to duplicate effort which is starting in other distributions like Fedora, so, collaboration is key. I strongly recommend reading systemd for Administrators, Part III[3] post about the conversion (and also all other posts : systemd for Administrators #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7,#8 they are highly instructive[4]). For discussing / helping with systemd integration for Factory, please use opensuse-factory mailing list or go to #opensuse-factory IRC channel on Freenode. We need your help to make sure openSUSE 12.1 will use systemd at 200% ;) [1]http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Systemd [2]http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status [3]http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html [4]http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-1.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-2.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-4.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/three-levels-of-off http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/changing-roots.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/blame-game.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-new-configuration-files -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat(a)suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Port Camino to KDE?
by Roger Luedecke 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

There has been a lot of hubbub regarding the default browser. Firefox doesn't integrate completely with KDE, but renders best. Rekonq integrates fully, but isn't as good at rendering. For Mac OSX there is the Camino browseer which is essentialy Firefox built in the Cocoa framework so it integrates fully... what possibility is there for adapting Camino or its concept anyway to create a KDEcentric Gecko based browser? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] FIBMAP
by Donn Washburn 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

Hey Group; What is the error that 2 out of 3 (Desktop and Default} are telling me. The error is "FIBMAP - Ignored". I have never seen this on any system but openSuSE 12.1. It shows up at every boot for many lines. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Skype:n5xwbg BMWMOA #:4146 Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New package hdjmod
by Matthias Bach 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

Hi, I would like to introduce hdjmod to Factory. Hdjmod is a kernel module providing support for Hercules DJ Devices (USB MIDI device). The package has been available in Contrib for quite a while and is now in hardware. Having the will broaden the distributions hardware support. Sadly the package is not continuously developed upstream, but has been provided as is for openSUSE 11.1 by the hardware vendor (Hercules). I have since adapted the package to the newer kernels at each release. With this experience I am confident I can continue to maintain this package for many more releases, though it would of course be nice if somebody integrated this module into vanilla. ;) Below you'll find some additinal information on the package. Regards, Matthias Homepage ======= http://ts.hercules.com/ger/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=17&fid=62&pid=177&ci… License ===== GPL 2 Author ==== Philip Lukidis -- Matthias Bach www.marix.org „Der einzige Weg, die Grenzen des Möglichen zu finden, ist ein klein wenig über diese hinaus in das Unmögliche vorzustoßen.“ - Arthur C. Clarke

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[opensuse-factory] using suse build service -- supposedly easy -- doesn't work at all (can't even checkout a package or see avail distros)
by Linda Walsh 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

Have had multiple people over the years suggest I get an account on opensuse.org (have one), used to be on novell.com (maybe that's why there's a prob, it got ported/grandfathered rather than running some new account creation script?) (note, I and install packages via zypper/yast just fine, so I know it's not network settings). Used the same Username/pw as I did to log into the website. (wiki, bugzilla...etc) Anyway, told to try the osc command...everything suppose to be easy...nothing about creating a home dir...or such... but that's the deal...the place where such would exist on the webserver has no dir. So following the wiki instructions either don't work, (there is some step I'm missing that I am not seeing pointers to go do) or it doesn't work for old-timers who got ported from suse->opensuse... How do I get this fixed? Thanks! -linda -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] FIBMAP
by Dave Griffiths 03 Jul '11

03 Jul '11

On Sunday 03 Jul 2011 08:13:41 you wrote: > On 07/03/2011 04:18 AM, Dave Griffiths wrote: > > On Sunday 03 Jul 2011 09:03:23 jdd wrote: > >> Le 03/07/2011 04:38, Donn Washburn a écrit : > >>> Hey Group; > >>> > >>> What is the error that 2 out of 3 (Desktop and Default} are telling > >>> me. > >>> The error is "FIBMAP - Ignored". I have never seen this on any > >>> system > >>> but openSuSE 12.1. It shows up at every boot for many lines. > >> > >> yesterday night, closing my 11.4, this message filled the screen, > >> stopping the reboot... > >> > >> but this morning all semms to go well... it's not the first time, but > >> I have no idea why > >> > >> jdd > > > > Hi All, > > > > I also see this every day. It has been linked to preload and I have seen > > a patch has been requested to fix the issue, but as of yet this does > > not appear to have been implemented. The patch is here: > > > > https://gitorious.org/opensuse/preload/merge_requests/1 > > > > HTH. > > > > Regards > > > > Dave > > Dave; > > Are you running a openSuSE version? I downloaded and installed a > 2.6.39.2 (not -2) and it is working with NVidia stuff on an x86-64 machine. Hi Donn, I run openSUSE 11.4 64Bit with Tumbleweed kernel-desktop 2.6.39.2-34.1 with preload 1.2-67.30 and preload-kmp-desktop 1.2-k2.6.39.2_34.67.30. I have updated these recently but the symptoms were there for at least the last 2 updates if memory serves. I use the NVidia 260.19.44 driver compiled from source as I have a 7300 GS graphics card which exhibits compositing problems with the latest NVidia drivers and KDE 4.6.4 Regards Dave

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