March 2007

[opensuse-factory] brp scripts in autobuild
by andreas.hanke＠gmx-topmail.de 19 Aug '07

19 Aug '07

Hi, from various discussions in bug reports I know that brp scripts for the following are installed in autobuild: - check whether .la files have an empty dependency_libs line - check whether .la and .pc files have references to the build root - check whether .desktop files have all their icons installed Are these scripts publicly available somewhere? They are not distributed with rpm, build or osc and I could not find them anywhere else either. If not, would it be possible to publish these (… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Aqsis package for inclusion within openSUSE 10.3 (factory) repo
by Aqsis Team 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Hi all, I've been working with Marcus (darix) on your BuildService team to create an official (open)SUSE package for our open source rendering solution - Aqsis. http://software.opensuse.org/download/graphics:/rendering Though the packages will remain on the BS for older (open)SUSE releases we would like to have Aqsis included within your official repository for the forthcoming 10.3 release. http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss Our efforts are both stable and tested and … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] ifolder server on 10.3
by Ted Bullock 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Will the ifolder server be available as a package in the 10.3 release or will it remain as an external package? -Ted Bullock --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hello, With all the great discussion on the topic, We need to get it going. I like the IRC, but really think a summeray is needed on the email list to keep consistency across time zone. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Linux audio foks
by Donn Washburn 05 May '07

05 May '07

Hey Group; I have the record player > phono In > line out going to the sound card Line In. Hopefully the impedance is good enough and the level is OK. It plays out of the speakers and sounds OK also. Now for the question ? I would like to save the music as a mp3, ogg or whatever. Kmix spots it as a Line Input. What is needed to capture it and put it in a file. Say like a mixer record output -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Java packages changes for 10.3
by Daniel Bornkessel 03 May '07

03 May '07

Hi. In 10.3, regarding Java, we want to do the following changes: - tomcat5 will be replaced by tomcat55 - we have jboss and geronimo already ... our jonas package is outdated anyways ... thus, dropping: jonas jonas-client jonas-docs jonas-examples - the avalon framework does not exist anymore ... dropping: avalon-framework avalon-framework-javadoc avalon-framework-manual In order to clean openSUSE from non-oss packages, we want to do the following changes: - jai has strict licensing ...… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] vmware WS install of 10.3 A2+
by Edward Dunagin 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

I just installed the above and WOW! I am using it now, and my complements to all that worked on it. The install went so smooth, I could not believe it. Thanks Guy and Gals,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan 4646 Glenwood Drive Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 http://doas.montanalinux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] meeting minutes of last dist meeting
by Andreas Jaeger 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

Our last meeting was moved by a week and I forgot to inform you. Sorry about that. Here're the minutes, Andreas * libata per default We're going to use libata by default for future products. For 10.3, we will implement the following in YaST to handle disks with more than 15 partitions (libata uses the SCSI stack that only allows 15 partitions): If YaST recognizes that an IDE disk has more than 15 partitions and we use libata on it, YaST will display something like the following … [View More] message: "openSUSE is switching to the new IDE drivers using the libata modules. These do only support partitions with up to 15 partitions. You have the following options with openSUSE 10.3: - Use the old IDE drivers: Boot again and add 'hwprobe=-modules.pata' as argument to the kernel - Repartition your system so that maximal 15 partitions are used. To repartition, use your existing operating system. In the future only the new libata drivers will be supported, so we advice to repartition. Installation will be aborted now." * Hal vs USB backends for cups. The use cases we like to solve are: * Detecting a printer when plugged into the machine and prompting the user to configure it - or even automatically selecting a driver like OS X and have the printer just work. * Not needing root to configure a printer * Detecting when a printer is connected/disconnected and offering virtual feedback * Ability to remove printers from copy when they are unplugged Basically cups is using its USB backend to detect printers. There is a hal backend we are kind of using for GNOME (Fedora also ships it) that only partially integrates. Since the rest of our hardware detection is running through hal, this seems like a sensible move. The discussion showed that there are many open questions and a smaller group will discuss how to move forward. * Splitting languages out of packages Usecases: * Reduced image size especially of thin clients and Live images * Reduced image size for distributions * Updating of single translation should be easier We do not want to make a $lang sub-package for every package, this way we get far too many. The following ideas exist: * convince upstream, e.g. GNOME, to do this similar to KDE. But this will only solve one part of the problem and not the base system. * Alter autobuild to split out languages itself. * Use the lang support in RPM, ie: rpm -i --define "_install_langs fr:es" <package> This would break delta RPMs. The idea is to add to spec file of packages a new rpm macro so that subpackages are created and then related subpackages are repacked for each language in our build system. This way we would get e.g. basesystem-$lang and gnome-$lang packages and those can then be installed. -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] Howto to get package to oss-repository?
by Sami Vento 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

Hi! I wonder, if this is right list to ask, but what is the way to get libvoikko and OpenOffice-voikko to the official openSUSE oss -repository? Libvoikko is excelent finnish spellcheckin and hyphenation library. OpenOffice-voikko is uno-package, which provides libvoikko -support for OpenOffice. Both of this are already part of official packages in ubuntu, debian and mandriva. -- Sami Vento --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Do java apps work for you in Konqueror?
by Silviu Marin-Caea 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/jpc/Demo.html I'm using Alpha2Plus (Factory). The page above does not work, nor other java applications. Not sure if this is a distribution bug or something that I have screwed up on my machine. I have tried java 1.5.0u11 and 1.4.2 from distribution and java 1.6 from java.sun.com. None of these work. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] 10.3 alpha?
by Edward Dunagin 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

I recall a message on the list asking to test this package. I lost it. Would someone please point me to the location of the latest factory. I would like to test it. Thanks and have a good evening....................ed -- Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan 4646 Glenwood Drive Bozeman, MT 59718 mobile 406-570-0992 Landline 406-556-7282 http://doas.montanalinux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] ruf failure
by Dominique Leuenberger 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

Hi, for some days now (I can't really say how long.. it's been a while but I never took the time to look a bit around), my rug is not able to install anything anymore. ZMF is running, rug se <packet> also shows available packages, but on rug in <package> it always ends with an Error. This morning I found that there seems to be a problem with ZMD. if I issue a 'rug ping', the OS listed is {noarch} which probably should not be like this. I have the latest factory upgrades as of … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Meeting minutes dist meeting 2007-03-23
by Klaus Singvogel 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

Andreas Jaeger wrote: [...] > * Status on print configuration > > - Discussion on opensuse-factory has been started. > - Cups 1.2 has policies - and there's also discussion about role > based YaST. We should avoid too many different solutions. > - Red Hat seems to use hal backend. > - Looking at Fedora solutions, they have some database for automatic > setup. > - not sure what can be done in time for 10.3 > I'm wondering how this _result_ … [View More]came up. The discussion on opensuse-factory seemed to have stopped, whereas in the dist meeting were now some results presented, which seem not to honor some important facts, and seem not to be common positions. So I cannot agree with the later listed results, i.e. the RedHat/Fedora related ones. Why we should _not_ use Hal backend: - We cannot use hal backend, if we have need to support printing ability of multifunction printers (scanner/printer/fax). The lock of the usb device when supporting the scanning functionality is the main reason. - To have a full support of printers, we need to support vendor specific backends (!= hal backend), like those from HP or Epson. - The hal backend lacks still of implementation of new features of the cups-1.2.x system. The upstream maintainer (RedHat/Fedora) doesn't show any activity regarding this since release of cups-1.2x (9 months). ==> outdated. - It's not necessary to use the hal backend just to have the hal functionality of plugin/remove of printers use. Writing a hal policy file (.fdi file) with call of an Novell/SuSE specific tool should be enough/better. We should not use the automatic setup solution from Fedora: - The origin of the database seems not to be public. We cannot react if we want to handle all of our supported printers just before a product realase. We are always one release cycle behind RedHat/Fedora if we want to use their solution. No improvements at our side. - The automatic setup didn't show any further development at Fedora/RedHat since quiet some time (it's outdated!). This was the main reason, why even Ubuntu/Debian went away and uses now printerdrake. - We already have a in-house solution, named YaST!!! Why cant we use that? YaST already does automatic printer installation, when doing a new system installation. It should be no major effort, to enhance YaST in such a way that we get an command-line interface to do this. Regards, Klaus. -- Klaus Singvogel SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 E-Mail: Klaus.Singvogel(a)SuSE.de 90409 Nuernberg Phone: +49 (0) 911 740530 Germany GnuPG-Key-ID: 1024R/5068792D 1994-06-27 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] Reiserfs v4 && openSuSE?
by Joop Boonen 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

All, I'm quite happy with the features of Reiserfs v4. http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html Is it possible to added to openSuSE 10.3? Even if it's only on experimental bases? Regards, Joop Boonen. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] FTP installation failure (kernel trap)
by Felix Miata 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

from ftp-1.gwdg.de booting with grub using local copies of factory installation kernel & initrd loud speaker beeps at Starting hardware detection drivers: ata_piix, piix, generic loading ata_piix, sym53c8xx ... graphical YaST starts lang and agreement selected "Loading kernel modules for hard disk controllers" (installation halted) kernel trap showing on tty4 Retry with brokenmodules=ata_piix didn't change anything P3 700/100 on Intel 440BX chipset (Tyan S1846) 512M RAM last partition on … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] wodim and checkmedia
by Donn Washburn 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

As a suggestion, it would be handy to have a "Eject media" button added to "Check Media" in the Yast2 app. Or have checkmedia do it after completion. This system is openSuSE10.3 Alpha0plus and .wodim-1.1.2-4 -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.org " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Minutes from 2007-03-23 dist meeting
by Andreas Jaeger 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Here are the minutes from yesterday's dist meeting. If you have any questions, comments, ideas, please speak up! Thanks, Andreas * Enabling more network services to be NetworkManager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs This is in general desired but might need quite large rework for some services like autofs that do not handle IP changes properly. Proposal: Services should be aware that network goes up/down and handle no network (instead of timing out). Let's look what can be done for ntp - and … [View More]later look at other services. Note the ntp service is also usefull for machines without network (serial DCF77 clock). Right now the dispatcher script sends a signal to ntp if the IP address changes but during boot ntp starts even if network is not running. Suggestion: ntp start script should figure out if NetworkManager is running and if it is only start if network is up - otherwise the dispatcher script will start it. AI: Work together on ntp. Dial-in support for NetworkManager to support ISDN, Modem, UMTS, 3G cards is beeing worked on and should be ready for openSUSE 10.3. * Checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. This was a question for security update of old distributions. The maintenance team grants exceptions on a case by case basis, e.g. if the new version just fixes the security problem. * AppArmor: Move the profiles from our package to their packages This would allow easier tracking of changes in packages. On the other hand a central place might give some extra review. Consensus: If the format is stable enough, we should distribute the profiles. Once we do it, we should train the packagers and institure some review process for the profiles to maintain a high quality. Beside manual page apparmor.d(5) a short documentation for packagers in plain english of the format is missed. AI: talk to Apparmor folks. * Faster booting? What can be done here? Booting consists of kernel startup, initrd and System V scripts. The bootchart scripts do measure the System V scripts but not the initial ramdisk. Idea: Snapshotting at gdm/kdm time: Write a snapshot and resume at the next boot back to this version. This is different from suspend to disk. Filesystem fragmentation under Linux is in general not a problem - but it is a problem in booting. Therefore measurements have to be done on freshly installed systems. AI: Generate some bootcharts to show current bottlenecks. * Shrink the basepackages (packages always installed for building) With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar). This means that e.g. vim and strace will be removed from the build environment. The autobuild team will add options to build to easily add debug tools to the tree. AI: Show list of packages to autobuild to adjust configs, announce changes to opensuse-packaging - and run comparisions of the complete system to check that all requirements are met. * Email notifications for checkins for not novell addresses Package.changes file coming from the build service might contain non-Novell email addresses. We decided to not send any autobuild emails to those adddresses. AI: implement whitelist of domains (currently @novell.com, @suse.de, @suse.cz) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] RFC: Tomorrows dist meeting
by Andreas Jaeger 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

I have so far the the following topics for tomorrows meeting: * Enabling more network services to be Network manager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs * checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. [I don't have details for this one yet] * AppArmor: Move the profiles from the single package to the packages they belong to * Faster booting? What can be done here? * Shrink the basepackages With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-… [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Tomorrows dist meeting
by M9. 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef: > "M9." <monkey9(a)iae.nl> writes: > >> Andreas Jaeger schreef: >>> "M9." <monkey9(a)iae.nl> writes: >>> >>> Network itself should go up indeed and if it does not, it's a bug - >> I will report it than ;-) Bug #256646 > Andreas - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Dependency problem
by Anders Norrbring 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

I don't know where to start looking.. I'm trying to use PHP 5.2.1 from the repositaries, but I run into some problems, look at this; # rpm -qa | grep php5 php5-pear-net_url-1.0.14-11.1 php5-pear-http_request-1.4.0-4.1 php5-pear-db-1.7.6-42 php5-mhash-5.2.1-41.1 php5-curl-5.2.1-41.1 php5-ctype-5.2.1-41.1 php5-iconv-5.2.1-41.1 php5-dom-5.2.1-41.1 php5-soap-5.2.1-41.1 php5-devel-5.2.1-41.1 php5-xsl-5.2.1-41.1 php5-pear-auth_sasl-1.0.2-29 php5-5.2.1-41.1 php5-bz2-5.2.1-41.1 php5-json-5.2.1-41.1 ..… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] xen in factory release
by phcolaris 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

hi, just some feedback on xen in the factory release, I hope this help to anyone who looks after the xen implementation in opensuse. rg phil - the xen kernel didn't create correct entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, didn't identify my root settings and didn't add what I've got in the other boots - I'm using console, so I add console=tty0 console=ttyS0,57600 in the menu.lst however, the output on console is just ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ… [View More]ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ ï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œï¿œ - couldn't use the cpus = "" option, there is a bug if I'm right # HG changeset patch # User Ewan Mellor <ewan(a)xensource.com> # Date 1169721257 0 # Node ID 82c306ad212e3714cf9292611a0ddb8de7a3b5dc # Parent 32f7d3200a995c5ae9b0819c63d51c51e2febe73 Have the sxp parsing cope when the cpus field is a list, which can happen after a reboot. >From Daniele Palumbo <daniele(a)retaggio.net>. Signed-off-by: Ewan Mellor <ewan(a)xensource.com> diff -r 32f7d3200a99 -r 82c306ad212e tools/python/xen/xend/XendConfig.py --- a/tools/python/xen/xend/XendConfig.py Thu Jan 25 10:29:33 2007 +0000 +++ b/tools/python/xen/xend/XendConfig.py Thu Jan 25 10:34:17 2007 +0000 @@ -572,7 +572,7 @@ class XendConfig(dict): # "0-3,^1" -> [0,2,3] # "0-3,^1,1" -> [0,1,2,3] try: - if 'cpus' in cfg: + if 'cpus' in cfg and type(cfg['cpus']) != list: cpus = [] for c in cfg['cpus'].split(','): if c.find('-') != -1: ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] Clue on sound problem
by Donn Washburn 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

Hey Group; I have Audacity and it works (not on the PCM buss). As root it works but only one signal meter is working on a line input (my problem) However, if I try it as a user there is no record of the signal after the first record time. It seems to work on the first time -> punch the record button and the line modulates across the screen (normal). Stop it after a bit. Try as you might there is no second retart or out right start. I get a Error while opening sound device. To that … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Re: cyrus-imapd: missing idled
by Ralf Haferkamp 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 10:18, Arne Reiter wrote: > In the actual factory build package of cyrus imapd > (cyrus-imapd-2.3.8-5.x86_64.rpm) the idled command is missing: > > rpm -qlp cyrus-imapd-2.3.8-5.x86_64.rpm | grep /usr/lib/cyrus/bin/idled > > | wc -l > > 0 Would you mind reporting that via bugzilla.novell.com? Otherwise it might get lost. > [..] > -- Ralf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Large file size problem under xen
by Dr. Gustav Quade 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

Hello, for an advanced scientific project we use a large server with 64Gbyte memory and 10TB disk space. Since some jobs will run for several weeks we plan to use virtual machines which can be saved during maintenance tasks. Using kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1-xen x86_64 I can create a several terabytes large partition using yast. Using xfs I created a 4.7 terabytes large file. df -k: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sde1 6835799424 4608001068 … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.3 Alpha2 Release
by Carlos E. R. 18 Mar '07

18 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-03-15 at 17:09 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Call for testing: > > We're using the libata stack now also for IDE controllers. Please do > test that an update works and all files are changed automatically > (libata uses /dev/sda for the first harddisk instead of /dev/hda). > Disks with more than 15 partitions are not handled right now, we're > still evaluating whether there is a good solution. to use the … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] SuSEconfig apparent hang
by Sid Boyce 18 Mar '07

18 Mar '07

Whilst doing update or software installation in YaST, I was getting an apparent hang during SuSEconfig of the tetex module - it has got stuck there for around 8 hours and counting until I killed SuSEconfig. While YaST was still updating packages, I tried installing another RPM and got a message that said I should "rm /var/lock/SuSEconfig-is-running". After doing that SuSEconfig produced the following messages:- kpsestat: /etc/texmf/ls-R: Value too large for defined data type kpsestat: /etc/… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] interrupted install without root pass
by jdd 17 Mar '07

17 Mar '07

Hello Trying to install alpha in the VirtualBox VM, I tested the "minimal grafical" I was asked for cd #(more than &) and did not give it (I haven't already dl them). This led me to the usual root screen, without having defined the root passwd. But the usual workaround don't work :-( starting the rescue, mounting /, chrooting to / and launching "passwd" led me to an error because of a bluefish (not sure of the word) /dev/random unavailable any idéa? thanks jdd -- http://www.… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Xen domU startup fails on 2.6.20 (patch attached)
by Matt T. Yourst 17 Mar '07

17 Mar '07

Xen domains cannot be started on the 2.6.20.2-2 SuSE kernel - they crash immediately after xm create. This happens no matter what Xen hypervisor version is in use, but it's new to 2.6.20. I've attached a patch to privcmd.c to fix this problem. When the Xen tools try to copy the kernel image and page tables to a new domU, the IOCTL_PRIVCMD_MMAP is used to mmap the domain's pages into xend. Unfortunately, some changes to the page flags in 2.6.20 cause the kernel to configure the mapping of … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] mkdir /sys
by Donn Washburn 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Hey Group; I am running SuSE 10.3 alpha - which runs very nice. I do have a question. Permissions are rather easy to figure out but what is NEW that causes root to not be able to "mkdir" in several places as in /sys. At boot time I get a error message that states my modem /sys/class/net/modem0/file is missing. As a test I was going to mkdir /sys/net/modem0 and see if that would solve the boot error message. so, mkdir /sys/class/net/modem0 give permission denied error yet root:root and … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] ide module bug #250241
by jdd 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Hello :-) Trying to install alpha 3, (VirtualBox) I hit the bug in subject. I could do the install going to ncurse yast and loading the ide-disk module. however this module is located in the "unknown folder" and it takes me at least one hour to find it :-(, should it not be with the ide modules? what is the syntax to load it from the boot menu? I tryied many without luck thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Lucien Dodin, inventeur http://lucien.dodin.net/index.shtml -----------------------… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] DNS server IPs not retained in 10.2a2
by Silviu Marin-Caea 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=255312 Added to most annoying list too. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Boot speed and services
by Martin Schlander 15 Mar '07

15 Mar '07

There's been talk about improving boot speed and stopping unnecessary services from running by default. I believe postfix, sshd and AppArmor are not necessary on most installations, I certainly always disable them. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: dvd-delta-isos
by Andreas Jaeger 15 Mar '07

15 Mar '07

Andreas Vetter <vetter(a)physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Andreas Vetter wrote: > >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> >> > >> > I'm glad to announce the second public alpha release of openSUSE 10.3. >> > ... >> >> I try to get the dvd-delta-isos using ktorrent. It says >> Tracker: invalid response >> Seeders: 0 >> >> Is it on my side, or do you experience the same? &… [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Linux audio foks
by Sid Boyce 14 Mar '07

14 Mar '07

Donn Washburn wrote: > Sid Boyce wrote: >> Donn Washburn wrote: >>> Hey Group; >>> >>> I have the record player > phono In > line out going to the sound card >>> Line In. Hopefully the impedance is good enough and the level is OK. >>> It plays out of the speakers and sounds OK also. Now for the question ? >>> I would like to save the music as a mp3, ogg or whatever. Kmix spots it >>> as a Line Input. What is … [View More]needed to capture it and put it in a file. >>> Say like a mixer record output >>> >> >> No luck with audacity? >> The Input selections in 1.3.2 are Vol, Line, Mic, CD, Line1, Phonein, >> Phoneout and Video. You should then be able to record from the Line >> input. >> >> File --> Export as --> MP3 or whatever format. >> Regards >> Sid. > The problem is Sid; > That Audacity will only work as a user if you change the permissions on > /dev/dsp. I tried several and only 777 seem to work. However, Audacity > will only "Record" once and then it fails on the second try. Now this > may be a "Me" problem understanding the way it saves data. I have fixed > it by removing /home/donn/.audacity-data and trying it again. It ask > for lang. which I set and then it comes up with full features. > I and several others have had similar permissions problems with gizmo which actually said there was no audio device. I did strace and submitted it to the forum, but the mystery continued. Then I had a brainwave, tried it as root and it was AOK. So I added the user to audio in /etc/group, also did the same for video a while back when kaffeine complained about no video, though OK with audio. was audio:x:17: now audio:x:17:lancelot video:x:33:lancelot It's a strange behaviour, stuff used to come up with ownerships in /dev of e.g <user>:audio, then quite a while ago on Mandriva and more recently on openSUSE, they are "root:audio", so the user can't get to them. Don't know whether it's a bug or feature, but it's a gotcha. Most apps work, but there is always one or two that experience the problem. It's only last week I got this problem when I fired up gizmo the first time in months. Without the changes my DVB card would complain when kaffeine is fired up. # l -R /dev/dvb /dev/dvb: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 60 2007-03-10 07:27 ./ drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 16520 2007-03-12 00:19 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 120 2007-03-10 07:27 adapter0/ /dev/dvb/adapter0: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 120 2007-03-10 07:27 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 60 2007-03-10 07:27 ../ crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 4 2007-03-10 07:27 demux0 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 5 2007-03-10 07:27 dvr0 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 3 2007-03-10 07:27 frontend0 crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 7 2007-03-10 07:27 net0 Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] no cdrecord
by Donn Washburn 13 Mar '07

13 Mar '07

Hey Group; In SuSE10.3 there is no cdrecord. I guest the author of cdrecords message to Linux hit home. Anyway, while downloading/updating or just lucky I saw a note the cdrecord was being replaced. Problem is my memory has not locked on the new substitute. It may have been in the SuSE Yast Install notes A "which cdrecord", "locate cdrecord" fails to answer the question. What is the binary replacements file name? -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: " n5xwb(a)hal-pc.… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Printing in openSUSE 10.3
by JP Rosevear 13 Mar '07

13 Mar '07

A couple weeks ago at the dist meeting we discussed improving how printers are configured on openSUSE. Specifically we discussed the following use cases as something we would want to achieve for 10.3, and we'd like to open up the discussion on implementation: 1) Detecting a local USB printer when plugged into the machine and prompting the user to configure it or automatically selecting a driver and configuring the printer We have a lot of the detection code, both usb and hal cups backends … [View More]can detect the usb printer. Hal being a general hardware detection layer actually sends a message when its plugged in and GNOME uses this to pop up a dialog to configure the printer via a hal backend for cups. However the hal backend is not a standard upstream cups backend and its very difficult to convert a cups hal:// uri to a usb:// one - but not entirely impossible, there is some code in /usr/bin/add-unknown-printer (part of the gnome-volume-manager) to do some of this. Yast also does not support the hal backend currently. The usb cups backend is the standard upstream cups backend but it does no polling so we'd need to poll somehow (gnome-volume-manager and kmediamanager are possiblities). For true zero config printer, we'd need to build up a database of printer ids and driver mappings and include that in the distro. We also need to make this configurable so that you have the possibility of not doing zeroconfig printing on servers. 2) Not needing root to configure a printer Couple of thoughts here, for a hal based solution we might be able to leverage PolicyKit and unify our hardware access permissions system with an upstream default. We could also alter resmgr for this or use sudo. We need to make sure this is configurable though, because it needs to be turned off for servres. 3) Detecting when a printer is connected/disconnected and offering visual feedback via a notification area icon, or some other ui feedback An easy thing to do here would be to patch cups to send out dbus signals and both GNOME and KDE could put up tray icons or whatever. HAL could also be used to detect disconnects reconnects 4) Ability to remove printers from cups (even shared printers) when they're unplugged to prevent jobs from accumulating in the queue or being default If we can get to zeroconfig printing we could optionally just remove a printer from cups when its unplugged. A little more unclear how useful it would be. If someone wants to throw up some info as an openSUSE project http://en.opensuse.org/Projects that would be great. I suspect items 1) and 2) are really the keys, if they work then 3) or 4) should be pretty straightforward. -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> Novell, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] cvsgraph?
by Andreas Vetter 13 Mar '07

13 Mar '07

Just a question regarding viewcvs (aka viewvc). Can we include a package cvsgraph in openSUSE? -- Regards, Andreas Vetter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Update notification via mail
by Christian Boltz 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

Hello, an outstanding feature of the new package management is sending a mail to root with the available updates listed. Not a problem on a desktop machine (there's opensuse-updater ;-) , but really needed on a server. I have written such a application. Well, application is exaggerated - it's a 10 lines script calling zypp-checkpatches-wrapper + 110 lines of XSLT stylesheet. Download: package "patch2mail" on http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cboltz/openSUSE_10.2/repodata/ (… [View More]also available for factory) Usage is easy: just install the package ;-) Every time cron.daily runs, it will send you a mail if updates are available. Questions: - is sending the mail to root ok or should the mail address be a config option? - is it ok to install to /etc/cron.daily directly? (IMHO yes, several other packages (for example logdigest) do this also.) - any other ideas? - will it be included in 10.3? ;-) On my todo list: - add a line listing the zypper command to install a specific patch (ready for copy&paste) BTW: What is the correct command to install a specific patch? zypper in -t patch -y yast2-printer works, but I'd like to include the patch number. zypper in -t patch -y yast2-printer-2706-0 does not work - "patch 'yast2-printer-2706-0' not found" :-( Regards, Christian Boltz PS: an example notification mail looks like this: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Update sources: - SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates (http://suse.inode.at/pub/update/10.2) === yast2-printer - Patch 2706-0 (recommended) === yast2-printer: show remote printers This patch will fix several bugs: (#240727) - show also remote printers (#220712) - if more PPD's are available, select recommended first (#214243) - suggest PPD file for the selected printer (#223838) - select proper default queue === kernel - Patch 2705-0 (security) === Linux Kernel security update. This kernel update fixes the following security problems: - CVE-2006-5751: An integer overflow in the networking bridge ioctl starting with Kernel 2.6.7 could be used by local attackers to overflow kernel memory buffers and potentially escalate privileges [#222656] [... several other issues ...] Furthermore, it catches up to the mainline kernel, version 2.6.18.8, and contains a large number of additional fixes for non security bugs. -------------------------------------------------------- Total: 2 updates (1 security) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Ausgaben mit einer 0 sind ok, es sei denn sie sind es nicht. [Thorsten Haude in suse-linux] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Checksum errors on packages.en
by Magnus Boman 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 18:17 -0500, Donn Washburn wrote: > Magnus Boman wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 19:25 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote: > >> Magnus Boman wrote: > >>> Hello list! > >>> > >>> I have an issue when at home which I'm hoping for some help with. > >>> > >>> I have two installation sources on my machines (I've got two machines > >>> and 4 different installations of openSUSE 10.3Alpha1Plus). … [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Checksum errors on packages.en
by Magnus Boman 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 19:25 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote: > Magnus Boman wrote: > > Hello list! > > > > I have an issue when at home which I'm hoping for some help with. > > > > I have two installation sources on my machines (I've got two machines > > and 4 different installations of openSUSE 10.3Alpha1Plus). > > > http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-fact… > > http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/opensuse/… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] konquerer / KDE SSL problem?
by Volker Kuhlmann 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

Could someone please check out whether they get a response (login page) from https://authorproof.ieee.org/ please? Mine always times out after a long wait. Using firefox or wget works, so it's not my firewall or ieee's server!!! Running wireshark shows no data is ever received back from the server when using konqueror, but there's a normal exchange with firefox. openSUSE 10.2 with all current updates except kernel. A second 10.2 computer shows the same problem. All other http:// and https:// … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2007
by Christoph Thiel 10 Mar '07

10 Mar '07

Hi everyone, [sorry for cross-posting.] We just submitted our Google Summer of Code application for being a mentoring org in this years program. Therefore we are now looking for your project proposals and ideas, that could be turned into potential Summer of Code projects. Please share your thoughts with us on the mailing lists and/or add them to http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2007 Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Checksum errors on packages.en
by Magnus Boman 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

Hello list! I have an issue when at home which I'm hoping for some help with. I have two installation sources on my machines (I've got two machines and 4 different installations of openSUSE 10.3Alpha1Plus). When I try to refresh the inst-sources, it starts to download everything, and when it's done, it tells me that there is a checksum verification error on packages.en. I've tried the following installation sources and they all fail; http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Tor package
by Nikolay Derkach 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

I suggest including tor [1] package to the distribution. I suppose many people use anonymous Tor network in their daily activities and this app would be very usefull. In addition a GUI frontend like TorK [2] is welcome. What do you think about this? [1] http://tor.eff.org [2] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=39442 -- Regards, Nikolay Derkach

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[opensuse-factory] xvkbd and tablet pcs. Please make xvkbd optional in 10.3, kde integration
by antikristian 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

I've currently got a Toshiba tablet PC with built in keyboard and a wacom tablet built in. In opesuse 10.2, the xvkbd virtual keyboard is started automaticaly as you log into KDE I do see why this is but I really do not use it and it is only an annoyance to me and probably others with a convertibla tablet PC. What I would really would have liked is a virtual keyboard that you could add to kicker or a panel. This would allow it to hide automatically like a normal panel can be … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] y2pmsh, why is not integrated?
by Vincenzo Barranco 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

Hi, So, why the y2pmsh is not integrated on the factory development tree? Best Reagrds, Vincenzo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Network Printing Problem @ Johannes Meixner...
by M9. 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, What about a real problem, in a real situation? ( i recall sending you this at jsmeix(a)suse.de , but never got any response, must have been caught in the 'spamshredder'..) > Hi JSM, > > We met in Resolved Bug #250113 , and in opensuse mailing. > > As the expert you are, i have a question , that will most likely be very > simple to you, (i hope), so you might want to answer it, end solve my > little problem? > > … [View More]Here it is: > > (sent to cups mailing list, some time ago, but never answered..) > > Hello interrested members of this list, > (and hopefully one expert among you, who is willing share the solution.;-) > > I have one printer, connected to lpt#1, (local) which is shared in the > network. > The machine, an IBM PIV 1.8Ghz, is one part productionmachine: XP, > shares printer to all windows, and linux clients, + is Dual boot SuSE > 10.3 testingmachine. > The printer must be able to print at all times. > > If the productionmachine (XP) is on, no problem to find the printer, and > use it, Windows easy, Linux bij using the ip adress for the printer. > > But, when SuSE103 is on, the one printer is seen as the networkprinter, > AND as the local printer, so 2 printers are listed, and either one of > them is useable. > When i want to use the local one, this is 'forbidden' by cups > (localhost:631), > When i want to use the network printer, it is paused... > So no printing can be done when testing SuSE103... > > We talk about 'one' EPSON Stylus C64 Photoedition, using CUPS+Gutenprint > v5.0.0, for Lin2Win, and if possible for Lin2Lin. > > How can i solve this? (is it solvable?) > > (unfortunately this model cannot work with a printserver, if so, there > would be no problem at all..) This is an 'actual' and 'real', 'existing' problem, which i would realy have to be solved. The catch is in this: > # Host name of the SMB host (always needed) Because for the: > The printer share is identified by unique "names" in the network: Which part will be recognised: The OS, or netbios name? Q: What will happen if the netbios name is the same in both OS's? (there can be only one OS up at the time...) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.2" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFF79yNX5/X5X6LpDgRAvH4AKDZivxtDDoWQGP7/sk7xJBQejJrDgCVFZfQ o3Fk3z9pZBLdn9KSiNK4sg== =iCvL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] Update policy, Seamonkey and OpenOffice.org
by Terje J. Hanssen 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

I'm wondering what is the policy and what decides which package versions that become updated to the current released openSUSE vs which versions that only become available on the factory and upcoming openSUSE version? I.e. Semonkey 1.0.99 = version 1.1b(eta) is still the version for both the current openSUSE 10.2 and on the Factory list. According to Mozilla/Seamonkey the 1.1 beta was released on November 8, 2006, the final 1.1 was released on Jan 18, 2007 and the current version 1.1.1 was … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Are we supposed to be moving this fast?
by Per Jessen 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

I've had a couple bug reports closed with WONTFIX, despite the reports being perfectly documented and diagnosed. To summarise the reasoning - "your hardware is too old or buggy, so we can't be bothered". I operate a 7x24 production environment with a few thousand customers, so I understand the reasoning with respect to aiming for an SLES release. I have also not reopened any of those bugreports. But - is it right for openSUSE to move towards an environment where only recent hardware is … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] libzypp broken this week
by Duncan Mac-Vicar 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

Hi everyone This week we are integrating a new libzypp which uses a new buildsystem and a new .so version, which will be the base for integrating the features for 10.3 This uncovered some problems with link order and static initialization which we are solving this week. So it is very likely applications will crash or segfault. The integration of new packages had some effect in zypp stack. Like a curl bug affecting ftp source probing, which is [now fixed][1]. So be careful, I'd recommend … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Automatic hardware detection and configuration.
by David Bolt 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

After numerous requests for information on what to do when replacing a graphics card and booting to end up with a black/blank screen, it's made me wonder: Why on earth isn't SUSE maintaining a list of all the devices attached, performing a check each time it boots, and asking the user if they'd like to configure any new devices that have been added? For a lot of devices it does ask about configuring them once you're at the desktop. The problem with this is that for a graphics card, that's a … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
by Alberto Passalacqua 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

After quite a long time, I decided to do some considerations on the status of OpenSUSE as a community and as a distribution, starting from everyday experience. I'll start from some bug reports, which affects me directly and which have been waiting for a solution for a long time since the release of 10.2 final. They're only examples, you can find many others on bugzilla. * main-menu Hangs https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240727 * Banshee doesn't recognize ipod … [View More] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215301 * yast is still unable to list printers https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240727 * Gimp can't print: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=230887 which sends to bug #226710, which is not accessible. The main menu bug is a blocker and it's really strange no-one in the development team noticed it during the development stage. A patch was recently released on bugzilla, but it only partially solves the problem for some user and does nothing for others, which indicates the issue is quite serious. The helix-banshee bug is really a mystery. It's there since beta stage, but no solution is coming. It seems that recompiling a package is impossible at SuSE. The yast-printer bug seems solved, but I still can't see my network printers in yast. I've just reopened the bug. The gimp problem was marked as duplicate of a FIXED bug, but this one links to an inaccessible report. In my opinion these issues are serious and the lack of consideration they receive is very disappointing considering that solutions were promised in many occasions, and they're not provided in an acceptable time (~3 months after the official release). The bugzilla is full of other examples of problems which could be easily solved in a short time, but never received a comment. There are many easily fixable bugs with many comments and no solution. OpenSUSE, in the opinion of most users, is the mean through which users know SUSE, evaluate it and start using it. There are many users who approached to SUSE through OpenSUSE to evaluate the enterprise line too and to see how the team/community works. I don't think OpenSUSE is giving a good image of itself neither as a distribution nor as a team/community. The quality of the distribution is lower then in the past due to the choice to release too quickly and the lack of testing. The issue of testing was addressed by adding a beta release for 10.3, but I don't think the team should expect significant improvements from testing provided by users if * a pre-testing is not done in-house. * no guidelines are given to community testers. * no consideration is given to their reports. Especially the pre-testing is important in my opinion, because community users often don't have enough experience and knowledge, or they don't test the distribution for enough time. Guidelines would help us a lot to look for problems in specific areas and to test things more carefully Of course all this makes sense only if reports will be considered in time and seriously, hopefully before release ;-) A final comment, to conclude this already long e-mail, is about the GNOME-KDE question (seriously, for once). Gnome users (not only me, there are a few, but there are) are quite bored to see GNOME considered the de-facto second choice of the distribution because it is less tested than KDE and less maintained. Now, I understand many developers at SUSE love KDE and that SUSE was a KDE based distribution. But in the past at least it was coherent: KDE was the default and SUSE was really optimised for KDE. It was so evident that GNOME appeared out of place, and it was OK. A user who chose SUSE knew it was a KDE distribution. Today SUSE has no defaults, so a user thinks he can choose what he likes more, but it's not that way. In openSUSE 10.2 it is so evident a lot of the efforts were put in creating a KDE which is better than GNOME. Examples are many: from the new kickoff menu, which was developed faster than the gnome main-menu and has none of the issues of the gnome one, to the opensuse-updater, which has no equivalent in GNOME (I know one is coming for 10.3). Both DE should be considered as alternatives, not as rivals. I do myself this mistake, I know. But it's really annoying to read "Use KDE" or "Use a KDE app" when a user asks for help about GNOME. Moreover GNOME is the default on SLED, and having a low quality GNOME on openSUSE doesn't help to give a good image to potential customers. If things are going to stay as they are at the moment, I would really prefer a strong but clear decision to make openSUSE again a KDE based distribution instead of having a two-DE distribution only in appearance. Sorry for the long message. Regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
by Alberto Passalacqua 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

Il giorno sab, 03/03/2007 alle 13.05 -0600, Rajko M. ha scritto: > Well, both is an extension, just one is fine for fast responses, and the other > allows more asynchronous work that will group more people that might be not > familiar with bugzilla and/or IRC, can't attend at the times that are > scheduled, but still can help. Sorting out to one medium will do just > opposite from what is wanted. > Yes and no. The goal is to work together on specific, serious problems. … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] The stanby option works outstanding on 10.2 x86_64 :-)
by M9. 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As subjectline, thnx for fixing this properly... - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.18.2-34-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@tribal-sfn2 Systeem: openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.5 "release 45.2" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF7B2IX5/… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Where can I find the package nss-mdns?
by Juan Erbes 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

I will update avahi and libgphoto2 to verify if the bug 239719 was resolved (as it appear in bugzilla), and then I update avahi and the dependents packages, but I could'nt find the package nss-mdns required by avahi-0.6.17-3.i586, because I got: # rpm -Uvh avahi-0.6.17-3.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: nss-mdns is needed by avahi-0.6.17-3.i586 Where can I find the package nss-mdns? Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Recent factory updater
by Donn Washburn 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

Folks be aware of the fact the most recent update to this machine in attempt to just get audio files has removed about all of the development packages without replacing them. xine-lib will no longer compile due to missing gnome libs which were found to be missing the correct links to /usr/lib. So far about every required libfile.ls is missing. So, far taglibs, libdaemon and libdaemon-gtk.so are missing Advice - be very careful if you use the SuSE updater. Oh yea - the updater even … [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
by M9. 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jdd schreef: > M9. wrote: > >> You mean like skype or ekiga? > > not even... in Frances adsl is given through "boxes" (the older is > "freebox", and phone with this is IP phone, free to many countries > (fixed phones) > > jdd > > Yes, IP-phone, it begins to become popular around these region also... But I must say, that i myself still do not use them... But they get offered, might consider to take one, for … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] kernel update
by Chema 04 Mar '07

04 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Since last month I upgrade/update my system with smart 3 or 4 times,but my kernel(you can see on my signature)is the same... There are any problem with kernels now? Thanks and regards __ Chema Ollés Usuario Linux: #198057 Linux 2.6.20-rc7-2-default #1 SMP Thu Feb 1 13:34:44 UTC 2007 i686 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1rc1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6s06m5lTdgS9W18RAmIFAKCbbrvf/vK6Xeq1gQT6lUi0QLdH5gCggC9+ n/7DFLCnUbs2+… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] 33 1/3RPM to wav
by Donn Washburn 04 Mar '07

04 Mar '07

Hey Group; I am about to embark on a job helping someone to get a 33 1/3 RPM old audio record (as if you could find a new one. Question number one is - I don't recall a true line level stereo input on PC sound card. I do recall a AUX/CD stereo connector on the card or a 1/8" stereo Line IN (at least I would like to see one) that can accept a line from a HIFI type amp stereo line out. From there I would have a linux mixer (qamix, kmix or the like) play back over the speakers that signal. … [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
by Christian Jäger 03 Mar '07

03 Mar '07

Marcus Meissner wrote: > > Il giorno ven, 02/03/2007 alle 23.05 +0100, Richard Bos ha scritto: > > > Op vrijdag 2 maart 2007 22:52, schreef Alberto Passalacqua: > > > > * main-menu Hangs > > > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=240727 > > > > > > This bug number is incorrect. What is the right one? > > > > I'm sorry. I pasted the wrong link. Here's the right one: > > > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Heads up for 2.6.21
by Sid Boyce 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

On openSUSE 10.2 (KDE-3.5.5) and 10.3 Alpha (KDE-3.5.6), I've encountered a problem with vanilla 2.6.21-rc1 up to 2.6.21-rc2-git1. KDE is setup not to require a password to unlock the screen, but it asks for password. When given the password, it unlocks, but kwin, kicker, klauncher and may be other kdeinit stuff have died with no errors reported. Doing straces do not show errors. If I start those 3 from the command line, everything comes back except the desktop icons and the next lock … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] [RFC] autofs5
by Matthias Koenig 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi, I would like to update to autofs5. autofs5 is a major rewrite of autofs4 and while there might still be some problems I hope it is stable enough. Fedora is already shipping this. We really should have it in Code 11, so I want this to be tested in openSUSE 10.3. Most of the new features enhance the functionality to be more compliant with industry standard. For testing purposes I already provide packages for factory and 10.2 in the buildservice: http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Invisible Network: tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
by M9. 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The strange thing is, that the networkfolder, i made for easy acces, is accessible, but the printer is not, while it is attached to the PC which can be accessed from the networkfolder... (ty (Default Printer) "Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds..." Description: ty Location: Make and Model: Epson Stylus C64 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.0.0 Simplified Printer State: processing, accepting jobs, published. Device URI: smb://… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Network profiles in NetworkManager
by Alberto Passalacqua 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

An interesting enhancement, which seems to be already present in Fedora, was suggested by a user (psp250) in IRC. NetworkManager at the moment is able to connect to manage only a single static IP, and if static DNS are specified, it's unable to update them when it connects to a dynamic network. The suggestion is to: * Make NM able to manage more configurations for the same network card (for example, if the wireless card is used to connect to different AP's, some with … [View More]

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