[opensuse-factory] cvsgraph?

Just a question regarding viewcvs (aka viewvc). Can we include a package cvsgraph in openSUSE? -- Regards, Andreas Vetter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag 08 März 2007 schrieb Andreas Vetter:
Just a question regarding viewcvs (aka viewvc). Can we include a package cvsgraph in openSUSE?
How many openSUSE users you think might require it? I'd go for 5 to 10. We're currently trying to get such packages out of the product everyone has to download and put them in opensuse buildservice repositories. And if you haven't yet, I suggest you get an account to upload the package. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 08 March 2007 06:46, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Donnerstag 08 März 2007 schrieb Andreas Vetter:
Just a question regarding viewcvs (aka viewvc). Can we include a package cvsgraph in openSUSE?
I think it's the other way around. The new name is viewvc, formerly viewcvs. And I, too, would like convenient access to cvsgraph.
How many openSUSE users you think might require it? I'd go for 5 to 10. We're currently trying to get such packages out of the product everyone has to download and put them in opensuse buildservice repositories. And if you haven't yet, I suggest you get an account to upload the package.
Do you really think there are only 5 or 10 programmers using openSUSE? I don't relish the idea of settin up dozens of separately configured repositories in order to get the tools I need. I _like_ the kitchen sink approach. It's one big characteristic that makes openSUSE and SuSE Linux before it desirable to me.
Greetings, Stephan
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Am Donnerstag 08 März 2007 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
How many openSUSE users you think might require it? I'd go for 5 to 10. We're currently trying to get such packages out of the product everyone has to download and put them in opensuse buildservice repositories. And if you haven't yet, I suggest you get an account to upload the package.
Do you really think there are only 5 or 10 programmers using openSUSE? Hmm, you want to tell me every programmer needs cvsgraph? I wonder how I managed to program so far without it.
Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 08 March 2007 08:00, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Donnerstag 08 März 2007 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
How many openSUSE users you think might require it? I'd go for 5 to 10. We're currently trying to get such packages out of the product everyone has to download and put them in opensuse buildservice repositories. And if you haven't yet, I suggest you get an account to upload the package.
Do you really think there are only 5 or 10 programmers using openSUSE?
Hmm, you want to tell me every programmer needs cvsgraph? I wonder how I managed to program so far without it.
I don't know. Give it a try. CVS and Subversion are the most widely used open-source version control / source code management systems and both are included in openSUSE. Many users of one or both of these also use ViewVC or ViewCVS. This is also included. There's one missing piece: cvsgraph (optional support for which is built into ViewVC). I believe there's a large number of people who would like to have the additional functionality provided by it and that the complete set of related packages should be included. But what are the criteria for inclusion? What percent of the users must use a package to get it included? If you start with this offhand "I don't need it and don't see why more than a handful of users would" justification for excluding packages (explicitly requested packages, no less), then where does it end? With an operating system release with no more application software than MS Windows? Of course not, but I'd strongly prefer continuing in the other direction--"all comers welcome." RRS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Randall, Op donderdag 8 maart 2007 18:11, schreef Randall R Schulz:
CVS and Subversion are the most widely used open-source version control / source code management systems and both are included in openSUSE. Many users of one or both of these also use ViewVC or ViewCVS. This is also included. There's one missing piece: cvsgraph (optional support for which is built into ViewVC). I believe there's a large number of people who would like to have the additional functionality provided by it and that the complete set of related packages should be included.
But what are the criteria for inclusion? What percent of the users must use a package to get it included?
If you start with this offhand "I don't need it and don't see why more than a handful of users would" justification for excluding packages (explicitly requested packages, no less), then where does it end? With an operating system release with no more application software than MS Windows? Of course not, but I'd strongly prefer continuing in the other direction--"all comers welcome."
the Build server is really the right place for this. If someone urgently need, than just build it in the build server as is the case of all those other hunderds perhaps thousands of packages. Scratch that itch and we will be happier susers ;) Perhaps the http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/Subversion/openSUSE_10.2/i586... maintainers will add it to their repository. Perhaps you can join them? -- Richard Bos We are borrowing the world of our children, It is not inherited from our parents. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 08 March 2007 08:00, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Donnerstag 08 März 2007 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
How many openSUSE users you think might require it? I'd go for 5 to 10. We're currently trying to get such packages out of the product everyone has to download and put them in opensuse buildservice repositories. And if you haven't yet, I suggest you get an account to upload the package.
Do you really think there are only 5 or 10 programmers using openSUSE?
Hmm, you want to tell me every programmer needs cvsgraph? I wonder how I managed to program so far without it.
I don't know. Give it a try.
CVS and Subversion are the most widely used open-source version control / source code management systems and both are included in openSUSE. Many users of one or both of these also use ViewVC or ViewCVS. This is also included. There's one missing piece: cvsgraph (optional support for which is built into ViewVC). I believe there's a large number of people who would like to have the additional functionality provided by it and that the complete set of related packages should be included.
But what are the criteria for inclusion? What percent of the users must use a package to get it included?
If you start with this offhand "I don't need it and don't see why more than a handful of users would" justification for excluding packages (explicitly requested packages, no less), then where does it end? With an operating system release with no more application software than MS Windows? Of course not, but I'd strongly prefer continuing in the other direction--"all comers welcome."
Thank you for support. That's exactly my point of view. -- Regards Andreas Vetter

Andreas Vetter escribió:
Thank you for support. That's exactly my point of view.
I personally prefer quality over quantity... however took five minutes to create a cvsgraph package and should be available shortly at: http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2 aint that hard to do it yourself ;-P

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
Andreas Vetter escribió:
Thank you for support. That's exactly my point of view.
I personally prefer quality over quantity... however took five minutes to create a cvsgraph package and should be available shortly at:
http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.2
aint that hard to do it yourself ;-P
Cool, thank you. I use the 10.1 rpm and it works great. -- Regards, Andreas Vetter
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Andreas Vetter
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Randall R Schulz
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Richard Bos
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Stephan Kulow