August 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] [Project Idea] Repository RSS Feeds
by Narayan Newton 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

Hi all, I had an idea several weeks ago, mainly that the wiki page on additional repositories at opensuse.org was nice, but not really optimal. Especially for regular users, who really cannot be expected to go find urls and enter them manually into various package managers. Projects such as konvenientSUSE help, but are rather limited because repos are hard-coded. So, my idea was originally to use the khotnewstuff framework to allow users to open a little utility and just install … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Split openoffice
by Marcel Hilzinger 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

There was already a thread about making the default install as compact as possible. What about splitting Openoffice.org to each module as other distros do already? For a default install I would suggest to include then only openoffice-writer openoffice-calc +translations -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] How to list packages belonging to a given group?
by Émeric Maschino 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

Hi, Is there a way to list all the packages belonging to a given group (e.g. System/Base) in CLI? I would like to check the diffs between the packages currently installed on my system and the packages that should be there. Some time ago, it was possible to list the packages belonging to a given group with yum groupinfo < given group> IIRC, but it doesn't work anymore (it seems that the files are no more splitted into groups in the yum headers). Cheers, Émeric -------------------------… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK
by Ricardo Cruz 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

Hey there, So with the Summer of Code over, it's time to announce the GTK+ interface for Yast (other SoCees, I would love to hear from you btw :)). Still some work to be done for it to be shipped with Suse, but it should be perfectly usable and your welcome to try it. For more information and some screenshots: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST2-GTK As I will be later today on vacations for a week I may not be able to reply to you promptly. Just so we don't think I'm ignoring you or … [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!
by Steve Barnhart 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Barnhart <stb52988(a)gmail.com> Date: Aug 23, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed! To: suse(a)linuxin.dk > I won't comment on the backend integration stuff - but as a user you have > three interfaces: YaST-qt (advanced), zen (simple) and rug (cli). Ubuntu has > more or less the same - apt-get (cli), synaptic (adavanced) and > their "add/remove software"-thingy (simple). I suppose you'… [View More]re right, but YaST has become *so* slow and it has always been slow, so hopefully (as i've been reading) this is getting worked on for 10.2. Anyone know when exactly the GTK frontend for YaST will be included? It would be nice to not have to have kdelibs and base installed by default if I chose the GNOME desktop. And I basically have to use zen now mostly for updates since atleast it includes a notification since suseplugger was removed. basically my problem with zen (besides the slowness of it, head its being worked on), is that its so confusing and would probably be more confusing to new users. Zen needs to show _1_ version of each package. If I'm using zen-updater, only show updates if I'm in zen-installer show the newest version (also some kind of icon/way to notify me if my version is older). And its so unstable that I don't even use it to install packages anymore. It freezes on dependency checking sometimes, othertimes who knows what it is doing. > > and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The > > organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab > > is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category > > Having two levels of categories is a must. I have ~20 Internet-apps - if they > weren't put into subcategories it would be a complete mess like most Windows > menus are. Besides if you stayed current with SUSE news you'd know that > Novell have developed the SLED gnome-main-menu thingy for people like > yourself - and the good people at SUSE are working on a similiar menu for KDE > based on usability testing and what not. I know about slab (as I mentioned) in fact, who doesn't? Its an awesome feature and yes, that will likely clear up my problem as long as it can do what launchy and quicksilver do and jus as fast (as in typing the application clickly, finding the match and executing). > > I know 10.1 was a bad apple, but hopefully this stuff is vastly cleared up. > > To my recollection the menus and amount of apps on 10.1 was exactly the same > on previous releases. None of your criticism except the package management > frontends are 10.1 specific. Well I was more talking about the mess that zen is right now and the entire slow feel of the distro. > Except for two webbrowsers, I don't have more than one app that does the same > thing on a standard install. And seamonkey is not installed by default. > > I'd hate to see SUSE turn into Ubuntu. If Ubuntu with SUSE polish is what you > want I think you should join the Ubuntu mailinglists and suggest to them that > they polish their distro more. > > I like about SUSE that functionality is a higher priority than not confusing > already confused people - which I consider an impossible task anyway. Then I must have installed seamonkey and some stuff while trying to get rid of the online updates during installation! Its never done that before but on 10.1 after I told it I would update it showed me *all* updates instead of ones relevant to what's installed and kept coming up even after installing all of the updates that applied to me. I had to click cancel just for it to go away and move to the next step. As was proposed earlier, maybe if only one type of application for each category is installed do not go to second level. It may be nice for you people who have 20+ internet apps but it takes us with a couple much longer. I don't neccessarily see everything bad about Ubuntu. Yes SUSE has Yast and I LOVE it (if it can be sped up) and other distros are at a disadvantage because of it. SUSE also has the next thing I love more than almost anything (besides actually working and speed ha) and that is polish..LOTS of it :). BUT that's not saying SUSE can't trim their packages more (IE not be a 2.8 GB default install just by choosing GNOME). But if what was said earlier is true (trimming down to 3 cds and such) good, hopefully that is carried down to installation. -- Steve -- Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org [View Less]

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[opensuse-factory] Nvidia install problems with kernel 2.6.18.4rc4
by Juan Erbes 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Yesterday I try to install the nvidia drivers, and the installer not recognices the kernel version, and the script sugested to specify the kernel source path, and I do it (with --kernel-source-path), but the error continues. Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] permissions for sound, dvd, etc
by Andreas 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

I would like to change the default permissions for the sound devices and the removable media. Right now (10.2 Alpha 3) the first user wins, meaning whoever logs on first gets the exclusive rights on the devices. Not very user friendly, except when you're the first one. So I tried changing the rules for udev as laid out in /etc/udev/rules.d, but to no avail. I managed to change the group for the devices, but not the permissions (from 0600 to 0666 or at least 0644). I then learned about … [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] Cannot install openSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 on Itanium (hwinfo-related crash)
by Émeric Maschino 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

Hi, I tried a network installation of current openSUSE build (hosted on oss.sgi.com) on my hp workstation zx6000 but the installation process crashes just after downloading the root image. Here are the logs that I captured with a camera since this display is quickly replaced by a big red square telling me that the installation process failed: starting hald... ok starting syslogd (logging to /dev/tty4)... ok Starting ia32el starting yast... > hal.1: read hal data/usr/lib/YaST2/startup/First-… [View More]

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[opensuse-factory] upGrading upcomgi releases
by Dominique Leuenberger 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

Hi, Maybe I'm on the wrong place for this, but it might be interesting even here: Let's assume the following (I think a not so uncommon scenario): - A user installs a openSuSE Version 10.1 - He changes the installation repositories to something like ftp://mirror.suse.de/pub/SL-Stable/inst-source and adds also ftp://mirror.suse.de/pub/SL-Stable/non-oss-inst-source Now come's one of the trickier parts: The upudate repo is pointing to: ftp://mirror.suse.de/update/10.1 What will happen … [View More]

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Test of Factory
by Dominique Leuenberger 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

>>> "Dinar Valeev" <dinarv(a)gmail.com> 08/22/06 1:36 PM >>> >i think you need install latest alpha and then update this to factory. >Using Factory inst_source > >On 8/22/06, Dominique Leuenberger ><Dominique.Leuenberger(a)tmf-group.com> >wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I wanted finally to have a look at the factory 'release' and contribute >> with some bug reports (possibly). >> >> So my first question: >> -… [View More]

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