Here're the agenda itmes that we plan to discuss tomorrow. Please
send input/ask questions etc and I'll bring your input into the
meeting.
Note that not everything discussed is something that will end
automatically in 10.2 - we might reject or postpone some stuff.
* PolicyKit/resmgr
Continuing discussion from last time.
* crypto FS
Kay proposes to replace cryptsetup with:
http://luks.endorphin.org/dm-crypt
LUKS is a standardized media encryption key handling and on-disk
metadata format. Usually it's used with a dm-crypt device-mapper
device. The cryptseup-luks tools are intended as a complete,
backwards-compatible replacement for the original cryptsetup.
LUKS stores a crypto-volume header at the beginning of the volume, so it
can be safely probed and detected. Keys and encryption metadata are
stored in the header of the volume. For details, see:
http://luks.endorphin.org/abouthttp://luks.endorphin.org/LUKS-on-disk-format.pdf
The complete LUKS crypto Desktop support is already fully implemented
in HAL and GNOME (including password-prompt, automount, password
storage in gnome-keyring). The SUSE repository only misses an official
version of the low-level tools, every other major distribution already
ships it.
* Removing build dependencies, speeding up the build process
Richard proposes to remove dependencies so that building of a
complete distribution can be speed up.
* GNOME 2.16 and /usr
Schedule/plan
* /dev/hd removal: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/8/9/285
* Building distribution for i386/x86-64 with -mtune=generic
Proposal: Build distribution with these flags.
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> > So, the question is: Does it exist a mechanism for finding the
copyrighted
> > work? If not, are there any plans? Can I suggest the CopyrightedWork
file
> > approach?
>
> Most of this is in special theming packages, check the *theme* ones,
But noll of them. OpenOffice splash with the Novell logo is not in any theme
but in the OpenOffice rpm. Getting out the trademarks gives us some extra
work in order to create a customized OpenSuSE distribution. It will be great
to be able to do that automatically, so we could concentrate on the real
issues.
jordi
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I was wondering if anyone successfully installed the new ati driver
fglrx 8.28.8. So far I was able to circumvent the wrongly detected Xorg
version as described in
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198125 by recompiling the
xorg-x11-server package with the configure options mentioned in
http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478.
This way I was able to install the fglrx rpm and restart the X server. X
actually starts just fine and the fglrx module is loaded according to
the output of lsmod:
andreas@HAL9001:~> lsmod | grep fglrx
fglrx 407244 8
agpgart 35528 1 fglrx
But something is still wrong. fglrxinfo still shows Mesa as the
OpenGL-provider:
andreas@HAL9001:~> fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
Any ideas?
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First of all, sorry if this is not the place where to ask this. In that
case, point me where to send it.
For building customized distros on top of OpenSuSE, it gets very important
to look for and find the copyrighted logos (SuSE and Novell basically). As
those logos are added by the OpenSuSE team, they could be easily identifed.
For example, we could have a file called CopyrightedWork in the rpm-sources
with the name of the files that have copyrighted stuff.
So, the question is: Does it exist a mechanism for finding the copyrighted
work? If not, are there any plans? Can I suggest the CopyrightedWork file
approach?
thanks,
jordi massaguer pla
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hi,
what do you think about this little tool:
http://www.workrave.org/welcome/
i think a tool like this should be in OpenSUSE
it would not even be a benefit in working with
but also a great argument towards using OpenSUSE in offices
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Pavel Nemec <pnemec(a)suse.cz> writes:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Dne Wednesday 30 August 2006 11:55 jste napsal(a):e
>> Hi,
>>
>> for an XFCE Pattern for openSUSE 10.2, I'd like to know:
> First problem is, that there is new XFCE 4.4 Currently in beta2 phase. I am
> not sure if stable release will be ready in time. Probably it will.
It that needs changes in patterns, we can do them later.
> Unstable release is now in BuildService
> http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=X11%3Axfce
Cool.
> I am cooperating on xfce with external maintainer.
Fine!
>>
>> * Minimal list of packages for XFCE which always need to be installed
> XFCE could be instaled part by part. But reasonable minimalistic list is:
> [core]
> libxfce4util
> libxfce4mcs
> xfce-mcs-manager
> libxfce4gui
Aren't the libraries dependencies? I only add the manager for now.
> [desktop]
> xfwm
> xfce4-panel
> xfce4-desktop
> xfce4-session
Ok.
>> * Additional packages that should be installed
> xfce4-panel-plugins
> gtk-xfce-engine
> xfce4-appfinder
>> * Optional ones
> xfce4-toys
> xfwm-themes
Thanks, added.
>
> NOTE:
> All package in BuildService (unstable) are now splited to devel and nondevel
> subpackagees. This is not done for Autobuild packages which are old (4.2). If
> 4.2 version will be on cds, i should split them too.
> In unstable version there are some new and important packages, which enable
> use xfce without any others desktop. New packages could be put
> n "Additional". So:
>> * Additional packages that should be installed (for unstable version)
Let's do this once they go into our distribution. For now I won't add
them.
Please have a look at the pattern in Alpha4!
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Perhaps this is all going to be fixed in 10.2 since 10.1 was obviously
very bad, but just to make sure, I would like to clarify and state
some of my opinions on what needs to go or become better integrated.
First of all having what seems to be so many different ways to manage
packages is becomming ridiculous and I'm hoping something's going to
be done to standardize on one. Syncronizing all of them has to be
crazy. Zen is just horrible right now imo. Its so unconfigurable and
the interface to install packages just seems way to simplistic. One
can hardly find out information on the package..it just basically
seems to be searching through a list. Not only that but most packages
are shown twice or more depending on repositories and updates! I do
not know why it can't be done like synaptic and keep one package and
then being able to update (I think yast does it this way too). I had
no idea what exactly to click and how it would work out! It needs to
be trimmed down to only showing the package ONCE which would be the
latest and if not allow one to upgrade. I just really am not liking
zen right now at all. I do not know why they couldn't have just
continued to improve the speed of yast and keep suseplugger also.
Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on
first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop
choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can
install more later). The system after first boot shouldnt be more then
2GB imo. I know I can configure packages in Yast manually and I guess
I'll probably just have to go through that annoying task for now on.
and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The
organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab
is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category
and then 5 different web browsers! Why the heck was konqueror
installed when I selected GNOME as my DE in the installation and no
where did I install KDE! Seamonkey was also installed WTH! Basically
we do not need second level categories and 5 different web browser and
terminal apps (ESPECIALLY WHEN I SELECTED GNOME AS THE DE), sorry that
is my major pet peeve right now. Its ridiculous that when one selects
the defaults that they are given 5-10 of everything. Please PLEASE
PLEASE Clean it up!
Please don't mistake my tone. I'm considering a move back to suse
because I like the polish and yast and such, but 10.1 (and some parts
were from 10 and back) is making me and my computer feel very bloated
and like I have to maintain a "beast". I know 10.1 was a bad apple,
but hopefully this stuff is vastly cleared up.
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Hello,
,----[ http://www.tug.org/tetex/ ]-
| I (Thomas Esser) have decided not to make new releases of teTeX any
| more (May 2006). The information below might get out of date as time
| goes by. I suggest anybody interested in teTeX to join the TeX Live
| project.
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Will openSUSE switch to TeX Live? I would appreciate this. Maybe it's
to late for 10.2, but for 10.3 there whould be an update to the
current teTeX 3.0.
Regards,
Bernhard
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Has dbus-1-gtk been removed from Factory? If so, how come?
Reason I ask is for building Tomboy, my package currently has it as a
BuildRequires...
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