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[opensuse-factory] Agenda for tomorrow's distribution meeting
by Andreas Jaeger 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Here're the agenda itmes that we plan to discuss tomorrow. Please send input/ask questions etc and I'll bring your input into the meeting. Note that not everything discussed is something that will end automatically in 10.2 - we might reject or postpone some stuff. * PolicyKit/resmgr Continuing discussion from last time. * crypto FS Kay proposes to replace cryptsetup with: http://luks.endorphin.org/dm-crypt LUKS is a standardized media encryption key handling and on-disk metadata format. Usually it's used with a dm-crypt device-mapper device. The cryptseup-luks tools are intended as a complete, backwards-compatible replacement for the original cryptsetup. LUKS stores a crypto-volume header at the beginning of the volume, so it can be safely probed and detected. Keys and encryption metadata are stored in the header of the volume. For details, see: http://luks.endorphin.org/about http://luks.endorphin.org/LUKS-on-disk-format.pdf The complete LUKS crypto Desktop support is already fully implemented in HAL and GNOME (including password-prompt, automount, password storage in gnome-keyring). The SUSE repository only misses an official version of the low-level tools, every other major distribution already ships it. * Removing build dependencies, speeding up the build process Richard proposes to remove dependencies so that building of a complete distribution can be speed up. * GNOME 2.16 and /usr Schedule/plan * /dev/hd removal: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/8/9/285 * Building distribution for i386/x86-64 with -mtune=generic Proposal: Build distribution with these flags. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Re: Re: [opensuse-factory] find copyrighted novell logos
by Jordi Massaguer i Pla 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

- > > So, the question is: Does it exist a mechanism for finding the copyrighted > > work? If not, are there any plans? Can I suggest the CopyrightedWork file > > approach? > > Most of this is in special theming packages, check the *theme* ones, But noll of them. OpenOffice splash with the Novell logo is not in any theme but in the OpenOffice rpm. Getting out the trademarks gives us some extra work in order to create a customized OpenSuSE distribution. It will be great to be able to do that automatically, so we could concentrate on the real issues. jordi > > Andreas > -- > Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany > GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ATI driver
by Andreas 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

I was wondering if anyone successfully installed the new ati driver fglrx 8.28.8. So far I was able to circumvent the wrongly detected Xorg version as described in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198125 by recompiling the xorg-x11-server package with the configure options mentioned in http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478. This way I was able to install the fglrx rpm and restart the X server. X actually starts just fine and the fglrx module is loaded according to the output of lsmod: andreas@HAL9001:~> lsmod | grep fglrx fglrx 407244 8 agpgart 35528 1 fglrx But something is still wrong. fglrxinfo still shows Mesa as the OpenGL-provider: andreas@HAL9001:~> fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1) Any ideas? -- TIA Andreas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] find copyrighted novell logos
by Jordi Massaguer i Pla 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

First of all, sorry if this is not the place where to ask this. In that case, point me where to send it. For building customized distros on top of OpenSuSE, it gets very important to look for and find the copyrighted logos (SuSE and Novell basically). As those logos are added by the OpenSuSE team, they could be easily identifed. For example, we could have a file called CopyrightedWork in the rpm-sources with the name of the files that have copyrighted stuff. So, the question is: Does it exist a mechanism for finding the copyrighted work? If not, are there any plans? Can I suggest the CopyrightedWork file approach? thanks, jordi massaguer pla ----------------------------------------------- Jordi Massaguer Pla openTrends Solucions i Sistemes phone: +34 93 320 84 14 fax: +34 93 300 35 27 jordi.massaguer(a)opentrends.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Workrave
by Michael Riess 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

hi, what do you think about this little tool: http://www.workrave.org/welcome/ i think a tool like this should be in OpenSUSE it would not even be a benefit in working with but also a great argument towards using OpenSUSE in offices ___________________________________________________________ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: XFCE Desktop Pattern
by Andreas Jaeger 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

Pavel Nemec <pnemec(a)suse.cz> writes: > Hi Andreas, > > Dne Wednesday 30 August 2006 11:55 jste napsal(a):e >> Hi, >> >> for an XFCE Pattern for openSUSE 10.2, I'd like to know: > First problem is, that there is new XFCE 4.4 Currently in beta2 phase. I am > not sure if stable release will be ready in time. Probably it will. It that needs changes in patterns, we can do them later. > Unstable release is now in BuildService > http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=X11%3Axfce Cool. > I am cooperating on xfce with external maintainer. Fine! >> >> * Minimal list of packages for XFCE which always need to be installed > XFCE could be instaled part by part. But reasonable minimalistic list is: > [core] > libxfce4util > libxfce4mcs > xfce-mcs-manager > libxfce4gui Aren't the libraries dependencies? I only add the manager for now. > [desktop] > xfwm > xfce4-panel > xfce4-desktop > xfce4-session Ok. >> * Additional packages that should be installed > xfce4-panel-plugins > gtk-xfce-engine > xfce4-appfinder >> * Optional ones > xfce4-toys > xfwm-themes Thanks, added. > > NOTE: > All package in BuildService (unstable) are now splited to devel and nondevel > subpackagees. This is not done for Autobuild packages which are old (4.2). If > 4.2 version will be on cds, i should split them too. > In unstable version there are some new and important packages, which enable > use xfce without any others desktop. New packages could be put > n "Additional". So: >> * Additional packages that should be installed (for unstable version) Let's do this once they go into our distribution. For now I won't add them. Please have a look at the pattern in Alpha4! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-factory] Excess bloat must be removed!
by Steve Barnhart 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

Perhaps this is all going to be fixed in 10.2 since 10.1 was obviously very bad, but just to make sure, I would like to clarify and state some of my opinions on what needs to go or become better integrated. First of all having what seems to be so many different ways to manage packages is becomming ridiculous and I'm hoping something's going to be done to standardize on one. Syncronizing all of them has to be crazy. Zen is just horrible right now imo. Its so unconfigurable and the interface to install packages just seems way to simplistic. One can hardly find out information on the package..it just basically seems to be searching through a list. Not only that but most packages are shown twice or more depending on repositories and updates! I do not know why it can't be done like synaptic and keep one package and then being able to update (I think yast does it this way too). I had no idea what exactly to click and how it would work out! It needs to be trimmed down to only showing the package ONCE which would be the latest and if not allow one to upgrade. I just really am not liking zen right now at all. I do not know why they couldn't have just continued to improve the speed of yast and keep suseplugger also. Second is the ridiculous amount of packages that are installed on first installation. Perhaps trim down default GNOME and KDE desktop choices like Ubuntu does (basically good packages from each, can install more later). The system after first boot shouldnt be more then 2GB imo. I know I can configure packages in Yast manually and I guess I'll probably just have to go through that annoying task for now on. and Finally, and this is my big peeve. FIX THE FREAKIN MENUS! The organization takes WAY too much time and maybe it won't matter if slab is integrated but we do not need categories and then ANOTHER category and then 5 different web browsers! Why the heck was konqueror installed when I selected GNOME as my DE in the installation and no where did I install KDE! Seamonkey was also installed WTH! Basically we do not need second level categories and 5 different web browser and terminal apps (ESPECIALLY WHEN I SELECTED GNOME AS THE DE), sorry that is my major pet peeve right now. Its ridiculous that when one selects the defaults that they are given 5-10 of everything. Please PLEASE PLEASE Clean it up! Please don't mistake my tone. I'm considering a move back to suse because I like the polish and yast and such, but 10.1 (and some parts were from 10 and back) is making me and my computer feel very bloated and like I have to maintain a "beast". I know 10.1 was a bad apple, but hopefully this stuff is vastly cleared up. -- Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] cdrtools licensing
by Bernhard Walle 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

Hello, just asking if the switch to CDDL has influence on the openSUSE cdrtools packages, too? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/103241/focus=105160 http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2006/10155.html Regards, Bernhard

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[opensuse-factory] Future of the tetex package
by Bernhard Walle 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

Hello, ,----[ http://www.tug.org/tetex/ ]- | I (Thomas Esser) have decided not to make new releases of teTeX any | more (May 2006). The information below might get out of date as time | goes by. I suggest anybody interested in teTeX to join the TeX Live | project. `---- Will openSUSE switch to TeX Live? I would appreciate this. Maybe it's to late for 10.2, but for 10.3 there whould be an update to the current teTeX 3.0. Regards, Bernhard -- Faulheit ist die Angewohnheit, sich auszuruhen, bevor man müde ist. -- (unbekannt)

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[opensuse-factory] dbus-1-gtk
by James Ogley 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

Has dbus-1-gtk been removed from Factory? If so, how come? Reason I ask is for building Tomboy, my package currently has it as a BuildRequires... -- James Ogley james(a)usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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