August 2006 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"
by Dominique Leuenberger 11 Aug '06

11 Aug '06

>>> Kevin Ivory <Ivory(a)SerNet.de> 11-08-2006 17:03 >>> On 2006-08-11 15:57, Stefan Bogner wrote: > Am Freitag, 11. August 2006 15:54 schrieb Kevin Ivory: >> thunderbird doesn't > > http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/ > >been there, done that. >I have mail redirect 0.7.4 installed. That tool is for bouncing >mails, not for "reply to list". I use it regularly. I found an alternative and a very funny instruction page for a feature like this in ThunderBird. http://open.nit.ca/wiki/index.php?page=ReplyToListThunderbirdExtension&5 Officially, it might work with Thunderbird 2.0, with a patch on the source a bit earlier.

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[opensuse-factory] Mailinglist migrated
by Henne Vogelsang 11 Aug '06

11 Aug '06

Hi, this list is migrated to the new mailinglist server. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire)

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 Alpha3 Release
by houghi 11 Aug '06

11 Aug '06

On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 09:16:54AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > * Using patterns instead of selections in the package manager (think > of patterns as package groups with some semantics). We have > currently only a basic set of patterns and will enhance them. Could I (an others) have the new autoyast2-utils containing the new create_package_descr to make these patterns? I looked on factory and the old version is still there. houghi -- This openSUSE mailinglist is about the community. All discussion about the community is welcome. If you have a techical question just subscribe via this email address: suse-linux-e-subscribe(a)suse.com, post your original email again there, and you will get a straight answer.

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 Alpha3 Release
by Guillermo Ballester Valor 11 Aug '06

11 Aug '06

Hello, El Viernes, 11 de Agosto de 2006 09:16, Andreas Jaeger escribió: > I'm glad to announce the third alpha release of our 10.2 product. > ... > * We now have a gcc package and a gcc41 package in such a way that in > the future a gcc42 package might be available as well, giving you > the chance to use different gcc versions at the same time. > Glad to read this, then I will not have to build my gcc_4x rpm packages anymore :-) Kudos for openSUSE! Guillermo -- Guillermo Ballester Valor gbv(a)oxixares.com Ogijares, Granada SPAIN Public GPG KEY http://www.oxixares.com/~gbv/pubgpg.html

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Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2
by Dominique Leuenberger 11 Aug '06

11 Aug '06

>>> jdd(a)dodin.org 10-08-2006 14:45 >>> >In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen >update and 10.1, I think we should have _two_ feature freeze >dates... > >One for the _new things_ (patterns, Xorg 7...) and one for >the _new releases_ of already used things (Kde, Gnome) > >I think the latter are already tested by they developpers >when the first seems already in a very early stage. > >I'm disquieted by the "most annoying bugs" list and the _may >be_ delayed Alpha 3. > >I personnally think that a stable distribution is better .than the very most up to date one. Hi, I was also very concerned when I saw the 'most annoying bugs' list today (as I epxected Alpha 3). The worst that can happen to openSUSE is having (again) a release with bugs like the updater in 10.1. Even though they are fixed now, it's still around and poeple installing without an internet connection most obviosuly run into it. If the schedule for 10.2 should be kept like this (which I think it should) then we should try to put bugs away instead of adding last-minute-features and packages. Some might be solved with new packages, some might not. Dominique

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[opensuse-factory] Package grouping
by houghi 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

I just looked at http://en.opensuse.org/Patterns I don't see much going on there. Does this mean that this is the final proposal? I have added some, that I felt were missing. Even if they are not selected, I hope to keep the discussion going and we can't afford to get it wrong. The main thing I did was add some graphical enviroments (including CLI) and add office and games. The thing I miss most is 'normal' programs for the end-user. Also would it not be easier to use the current package groups as a start and then go from there? e.g. when I look at just games, I see: Amusement |--Games | |--3D | | |--Other | | |--Race | | `-- ... | |--Action | | |--Arcade | | `--.... | |--Board | `--... `--Toys |--Background `--... Seems like an awefull good place to start. This has been made over the years and I would think it to be a pity to just throw the knowledge away. Also realize that many people who use SUSE for years know where to look, so even if it is not going to be the main pattern, it would be nice to have a pattern "Ye Olde S.u.S.E. way" that contained the familiar groups people know. -- houghi http://houghi.org Personally, I think most sports fans are a little "gay". They'd rather watch a bunch of sweaty guys jumping all over eachother, than, say fashion TV - where hot models walk down the runway. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] fglrx Bugs
by Hans-Peter Holler 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Please notice: [Bug 477] New: firegl_public.c does not compile with Kernel 2.6.18 http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477 [Bug 478] New: [R200Setup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.2.-1.2, required X.org 7.1.0.0 http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478 Hans-Peter

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[opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2
by jdd 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen update and 10.1, I think we should have _two_ feature freeze dates... One for the _new things_ (patterns, Xorg 7...) and one for the _new releases_ of already used things (Kde, Gnome) I think the latter are already tested by they developpers when the first seems already in a very early stage. I'm disquieted by the "most annoying bugs" list and the _may be_ delayed Alpha 3. I personnally think that a stable distribution is better than the very most up to date one. an other solution should be to use a debian like calendar (I speak of the three distros, stable, unstable and testing, not of the delay between releases :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] gnome 2.14/5
by Richard Bown 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Hi Can some point me in the direction of the rpms for gnome 2.14 or 2.15 if packaged. I need to install to check if a bug, already on bugzilla is a suse bug or a gnome bug. Other distros running gnome 2.14 do not exhibit the same bug. TIA Richard

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Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2
by Tobias Burnus 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Hi, Stefan Dirsch wrote: >> # rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* >> error: Failed dependencies: >> libXft.so.1 is needed by (installed) intel-iidb91036-9.1.036-1.i386 >> libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) xterm-215-2.x86_64 > Ok. But I can't understand the Xaw issue: > libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) xterm-215-2.x86_64 > # rpm --provides -q xorg-x11-libs|grep Xaw > libXaw.so.8 > I don't understand this either. Looking at PROVIDES in mc, one sees that exactly that library, "libXaw.so.8()(64bit)" , is provieded by xorg-x11-libs-7.1-9.x86_64.rpm. But still I get, as said: # rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-libs-7.1-9.x86_64.rpm xorg-x11-libs-32bit-7.1-9.x86_64.rpm xorg-x11-{7,d,f,p,x,u,lib[A-Za-rx]}* error: Failed dependencies: libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) tightvnc-1.2.9-201.x86_64 libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) v4l-conf-3.94-22.x86_64 libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) t1lib-1.3.1-586.x86_64 libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) xterm-215-2.x86_64 libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) i4l-base-2006.7.3-2.x86_64 (This time with intel-iidb91036-9.1.036-1.i386 deinstalled to make sure it does not interfer.) I have frankly no idea. This is with rpm-4.4.2-44. Tobias

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