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[opensuse-wiki] MultiBoilerplate improvement
by Rajko M. 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Cboltz wrote patch for MultiBoilerplate extension that allows to have different boilerplates (templates) for different namespaces. http://tinyurl.com/y69ytgy -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Need clarification - openSUSE and Main namespaces
by Rajko M. 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Now I have a question: 1) If we have openSUSE:Bash, openSUSE:BIOS, openSUSE:CLI, openSUSE:CUPS and so on, what for we have Main name space?? Found in http://wiki.opensuse.org/Acronyms . 2) I see deleted article Apache with explanation "wrong path". Where it should go? Apache is application that is part of distribution. It is simple index of 8 articles that talk about Apache web server, which is common way to navigate small groups of articles. I was contemplating about reasons for deletion, but I can see any. Any ideas? -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] New (old) main page - third column is back !
by Thomas Schmidt 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

On 19.04.2010 22:34, Christian Boltz wrote: > Hello, > > Am Montag, 19. April 2010 schrieb Thomas Schmidt: >> On 19.04.2010 05:30, Rajko M. wrote: >>> While I agreed that third, right, column in the wiki.o.o main page >>> should go it didn't take too long to miss it. After db server >>> recovery it is back. >>> >>> IMO you can leave it. >>> Although, our sponsors should take place on left sidebar, it feels >>> empty without them. >> >> Do you know how to configure the layout of the frontpage? >> I didn't find the right place, eith in the admin pages nor in our >> wiki sources. If you change the skin to bento, the right column is >> gone. > > You may want to look at MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn ;-) > > (No need to copy that hack to the Bento theme - _if_ the right column is > wanted, it should be doable to include it without this special hack.) I removed the content of MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn, but the opensuse theme still tries to include it on the main page... Matthew: Do we have another opensuse.php theme file on wiki.o.o than in svn? (What does 'svn status' return on the wiki root?) Because I cannot reproduce this on wikistage. Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Working on transition: Notes 2010-04-19
by Rajko M. 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

This is what I picked up on recent content transfers from en.o.o to wiki.o.o. The sort order is "as stumbled upon" (no particular order): http://wiki.opensuse.org/Acronyms *** Use Template:Intro instead of Template:Intro-frame in every article that is transferred from http://en.opensuse.org . Henne changed name to something that is lesser typing. We will probably never need title Template:Intro for other purposes. In general _please_ avoid generic names for article titles, like Bug, Image, About, Package, etc. They should be used for index or disambiguation pages. When one article uses such name and we don't see that in time, later can be a lot of editing before its purpose is changed. I got that with word Bug that was root of a lot of subpages. *** Remove <div class="hp_box"> and accompanying </div> from any article you find it. This class does not exist for a long time. *** Remove  This is part of Article template, but it is just information to new users. Anywhere else it is just junk filling the page. *** [[Category:Beginners Guides]] The name with 2 plurals sounds awkward, plus wrong capitalization. It can be "Beginner guides" as more guides for beginner, but in any case article Acronyms is not a guide in any stretch of imagination. It is help, but not a guide. *** One equal sign = around section title gives <h1> header that is the same size as article title. This should not happen. Section title start with <h2> or in MediaWiki syntax double equal sign == . -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] German Wiki & Multi-Language Concept
by Rupert Horstkötter 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Community, with the new openSUSE Wiki at wiki.opensuse.org fast approaching and just around the corner, we're going to put additional workforce on it to hold the target launch date of June 1st 2010, which is prior to the release of openSUSE 11.3. In addition to the English Wiki, we'd love to launch the new german wiki at the same time in order to honor the significant reviewing contributions that had been done in the german wiki by a dedicated group of german contributors. We also see that the german openSUSE user community is relatively large and important for the project and distribution. In order to achieve this, I'd like to propose both a strategy for the german wiki as well as a realignment of our current multi-language concept for localized Wikis documented at http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Translation 1) German Wiki The German Community already adopted the wiki reviewing process of existing content and actually outperformed the English efforts. To be able to adopt the new structure concept we're currently creating at wiki.opensuse.org I herewith request a new temporary instance de.wiki.opensuse.org. We want to parallelize the transition efforts of reviewed content into the new instance at de.wiki.opensuse.org. We'd like to build the new German Wiki in parallel to the new English Wiki to be able to switch both DNS entries at the same time and provide the openSUSE Community with the appreciated outcome of both reviewing efforts. 2) Multi-Language Concept In order to provide localized openSUSE documentation resources, i.e. wikis to our user community, we currently follow the Wiki Translation Process outlined at http://wiki.opensuse.org/Help:Translation. Time has shown that this concept has several drawbacks both from a initiating and a maintaining perspective. Thus I herewith propose the following changes (the rest will be kept as is): a) The initial creation of Mandatory pages, so far, has been done within the English Master Wiki and this is suboptimal because it fills up the master wiki. Thus I propose to create a new languages-server languages.opensuse.org serving as a temporary instance for initial translation efforts. That way, translators have a dedicated sandbox-server to build their localized Wiki prior requesting their own localized instance <languagecode>.opensuse.org. b) I propose to introduce more strict commitment requirements for the maintenance of localized Wikis. Time has shown that initially created localized Wikis remain in an outdated/obsolete state and we need to avoid such a situation. I recommend to introduce a monthly meeting of Wiki maintainers at #opensuse-wiki to discuss needed requirements such as adoption of pages to new releases and syncing of content. The latter aspect is IMO very important: The language-specific instances aren't 1:1 copies of the english master wiki but vital communities by itself providing openSUSE documentation for a their target group. This is valuable content initially created in localized wikis and communication between maintainers is needed in order to sync (two-way direction) content for the profit of both the English master and the other localized Wikis. Also syncing between several localized Wikis should be improved. c) We should encourage localized (existing) communities to adopt the new structure scheme of the english wiki at wiki.opensuse.org. Furthermore we value the adoption of our reviewing processes for localized (existing) communities from a long-term perspective. Experiences with the german wiki have shown that, an engaged contributor community assumed, this is achievable. The maintainer meeting proposed in paragraph b) should support these efforts. d) We need to avoid "non-starters" and/or un-maintained Wikis. That means that granting a <languagecode>.opensuse.org DNS isn't a lifetime guarantee. Committed maintainers should provide hand-over candidates before they decide to move on (this certainly may happen) and instruct them to achieve daily business. If a localized community isn't maintained any longer for more than half a year and engagements to revive commitment for the localized instance fail, we're going to shutdown the localized wiki. Due to the current state of the Wiki concept implementation with a target launch date of June 1st 2010 for both the english and the german wikis, I'd like to encourage everyone interested in the discussion to focus on show-stopping aspects within the presented concept. Please step up within one week from now on (until Sun, the 18th of April) with objections. Time is pressing and there's still lots to do, but we're highly committed to push these efforts with additional workforce. The goal is to generate even more fuzz for the openSUSE project with the 11.3 release together with new sexy instances for both the english and german wiki. I'm looking forward to your comments and suggestions, R -- Rupert Horstkötter, open-slx gmbh openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Community Assistant http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter(a)opensuse.org Jabber: ruperthorstkoetter(a)googlemail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Hermes on openSUSE wiki
by Rajko M. 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

How do we use Hermes extension ? http://en.opensuse.org/Hermes doesn't reveal much about MediaWiki extension. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Looking for more extensions
by Rajko M. 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

There are always some nice things to read on Wikipedia :) As part of their "Usability initiative" there is extension with the same name: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UsabilityInitiative It has few components, each with note: "<component name> was developed specifically to be run as part of the Beta rollout on Wikimedia wikis; it may or may not be useful to third-party users. The extension can be run on non-WMF wikis, but is hardly documented; we'll write documentation when there is time :) " We can use some of them, like: ClickTracking WikiEditor The problem is in "hardly documented", which makes only those that can read a code suitable as evaluators. -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Testing a different front page layout on en.o.o
by Rajko M. 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

I played a bit with front page to make better use of available space: http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org -- Regards Rajko, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] edit main page
by EGD 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

Hello I suggest to replace on the main page (http://en.opensuse.org/) the link *Download Instructions* to Installation_Help ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have a look at the '''[[openSUSE 11.2]]''', '''[[Screenshots/11.2| Screenshots]]''' and read '''[http://news.opensuse.org/category/sneak-peeks/ Sneak Peeks]''' of openSUSE 11.2. -[[Download|Download Instructions]] – [[Download Help]] – [[Package Repositories]] +[[Download Help]] – [[Package Repositories]] – [[Installation_Help|Installation Help]] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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