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front page redesign - localized wikis main page - center of page
by jdd 07 May '06

07 May '06

==upper place (definition)== may be we could add a green back screen to make it a bridge between sidebar and right column - this definition should also be made shorter - there is the "overview" part for the details ==center place== may we keep download and bugreport here? there are always Two others links for this on the page. If we keep them, we should make them smaller. they are already nearly invisible, on the worst screen place :-) An image of the stable release should be in the middle and one or two major info is a good idea. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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front page redesign - localized wikis main page - right column
by jdd 07 May '06

07 May '06

the right column looks nice for me, no need to change howaver we need a sort of source for more locals info, may be a forth part, at the bottom (local news?), but only if we can find info to set in it :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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front page redesign - localized wikis main page - sidebar
by jdd 07 May '06

07 May '06

==Sidebar== The sidebar has two parts we can't really play with: tool box and others langages. we must limit the ohers menu entries to sgnificant ones (remember: keep it simple) the french wiki: http://fr.opensuse.org/Bienvenue_sur_openSUSE.org gives an idea of what I propose. but it's not that good. "page de garde" is "home page", the link to the front page it self. don"t forget the sidebar is always there, on the left, even on the others pages. Opensuse is the first place, as was suggested by somebody else. I don' see why add "about" in front of "opensuse" "vue d'ensemble" is "project overwiev" - adding project made the french line too long, that is why I didn't made it. Participate may need a more important place, but better in the center place than on the sidebar, it needs not be in all pages. Use is an important place; mainly download, documentation and contacts. I don't see any reason to have SDB different than documentation and in contacts there are all the kinds of contacts (mailing lists, forums...) there is no need for news or roadmap here, they have all a column on the right for themselves jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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front page redesign - localized wikis main page
by jdd 07 May '06

07 May '06

Before giving contents, I propose we think of the layout. The use of the wiki already gave us an initial layout: *upper left logo *personnal links (of login prompt) *bottom edits line we _can_ change this, but it's probably not a good idea. then the actual layout is pretty confusing. Did you notice the upper right menu bar? my stupid I did not! So we have download at top, on left, on center bottom... it's important, I know, but isn't it too much? Looking at the page, I see for more significant places we can play with. * sidebar/left menu column * right column * "head", that is page title and Novell/opensuse definition * middle of the page. This middle is now divided on two: permanent bug/download links and transient news. ==overall size== we should try to limit oveall size to 800x600. This size is readable (given browser resizing) even with an old 640x480 screen. Most users have greater screens but use browsers in a window, not full screen. This size is not an absolute rule, just a target jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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front page redesign - the HUB (opensuse.org)
by jdd 07 May '06

07 May '06

I really think your are right saying we must go ahead on this subject, so I will try to separate it on smaller chunks :-) The first thing we _must_ do is a "hub" page, viewable on "opensuse.org" (without any "en", "fr"...). We need this badly because our goal of making an international distribution, with multiples localized wikis make us need a single page common to the whole community, given anywhere as reference, and this cannot be the english page. * we need to make simple (always make simple should be the main rule :-). So I propose the HUB page to be One image with around it one clickable place for each local wiki. can we agree with this first point? * this central image should be simply the opensuse logo, the one you can see in the upper left corner of any page, just resized with full definition to be visible (we can't just enlarge the icon) * the total screen size should be 640x480. We don't really need more for a hub and this should accomodate each and any world computer. Think to make a usable equivallent for non graphics browsers and disabled peoples. * what to use as back images for localized wikis is more difficult. The simpler way is flags. I understand this is sometime a problem, but I fail to find a better way. flags are internationally known, not lizards :-). I can see a Japanese flag and see there is a japanese wiki, a dragon with criptics (for me) symbols in it is not good. this pages is also an advertisement of how international SUSE is :-) your feeling? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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Wiki Translation About?
by Tora Toraman 07 May '06

07 May '06

Dear Friends, l would like to know if we have possibility to see the translation statistics in wiki. For example, the percentage of the ones translated to Turkish or to Germany. Tora Toraman

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Re: WELCOME to opensuse-wiki@opensuse.org
by Tora Toraman 05 May '06

05 May '06

Dear friends, l would like to know if we have possibility to see the translation statistics in wiki. For example, the percentage of the ones translated to Turkish or to Germany. Best Regards, -- Tora Toraman Manager/Admin SuSE Linux OS Turkıye www.suse-tr.com www.linuxcareer.net

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front page redesign
by jdd 04 May '06

04 May '06

Hello, I have made a quite significative -still not so visible- change to the front page at http://fr.opensuse.org. The french page being much less seen than the english one, it's a good place to test (I already asked the users they advice, will see the answer-and yours, I can go back). to summarise, I don't change anything in the layout. the goal was to make the hole page fit in 800x600 screen I reduce the number of sidebar entries (and reworked accordingly the content of the menu pages). I also add an image of the 10.1 box in the upcomming events place :-) I also decided not to quote any other langage wiki in my pages (for example the IW template-interwiki links), because I'm unable to follow the growth of the wiki number, and I don't read some of these strange pages (strange for me, of course). On the contrary I quote the english page and I set on the french front page an info box advertising the fact that many new wikis exists. Note that on the right part of the screen, I only report things having a meaning for french readers. I think more and more than an important part of the community work can only made in english and so on the english wiki. it's of little use to translate all the pages on build system, bugzilla stuff or development participation, because nobody who don't at least read english can participate to these things. Localised wikis are very good for beginners, end user documentation, tips and tricks,download... and to speak bask about front page, I really would like to have a wikipedia like main page for all wikis (with all these little flags on a nice lizard), but I'm definitively NOT an artmaker, sorry :-))) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

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IW template and links to the Czech wiki
by Jakub Friedl 02 May '06

02 May '06

IW template at English wiki links to http://cZ.opensuse.org/... instead of http://cS.opensuse.org/... This is a problem because although http://cz.opensuse.org is an alias for http://cs.opensuse.org, it redirects always to the fronpage, not the correct page. Please make IW link to cs... insead of cz... for the Czech language. Keeping the full path when redirecting from cz to cs would be nice too. I do not have enough privilegies to fix that myself. Thank you. -- Jakub Friedl

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links to wikipedia.org
by Jakub Friedl 02 May '06

02 May '06

Hi, what is the trick behind links to wikipedia.org (e.g. [[Wikipedia:OpenglOpenGL]])? They work in English opensuse wiki but not in the Czech wiki. I am not sure how to enable them. -- Jakub Friedl

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