August 2001 - openSUSE PPC - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Booting SuSE 7.1
by Mark Grewar 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Thank you all for your expert advice - I will hopefully be able to respond successfully from my linux os Mark

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CD-ROM on PM 7200
by Brett Schwarz 15 Aug '01

15 Aug '01

Anyone know why all of a sudden MACOS is not recognizing my SuSE 6.4 CDs? I installed from them, so I know they use to work. Now when I boot into MACOS, with the CD in the drive, I get a message saying that "The disk is unreadable by this Macintosh. So you want to initiakize it?" Well, if I hit cancel, it ejects the CD. Anyone have any ideas? Also, for some reason, when I press the 'c' key, the system does *not* boot from CD. Any reason for this? thanks, --brett _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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HELP! Yast cannot find partition
by Thiemo Kellner 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Hi, I am trying to install 7.1 on a beige G3 MT. I partitioned the hard disk by, hm what's the english name, "Laufwerke konfigurieren" everything looked fine. Then the computer starts quite normally into the installer but it can't find the device. I tried to partition the bl.. disk with pdisk and the installer of LinuxPPC. pdisk found the disk but afterwards yast didn't. The LinuxPPC installer failed completely. I'm rather desperate. I'd appreciate any idea. Thiemo -- root weiss, was er tut. Wicht weiss es nicht. Halb Wicht, halb root. Geht das gut? thiemo(a)gmx.ch

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Graphics on RS/6000 with 7.1
by Tor 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

I have successfully installed 7.1 on a IBM RS/6000 43P model 150, and it is running fine now. I had some problems at first but I have got most of them sorted now. My main consern is the graphics on the machine. I am not sure what graphics card is in the machine. I think it is a GXT2000p, but I don't know for certain. I never checked while AIX was on it, and there is nothing on the card that would point me in the right direction. there is a heatsink/fan glued on the chip, and I don't want to take that off. Now. The display is set to 1280X1024 - Perfect. the colour depth is 8 bit. I can live with that, but the refresh is 60hz. And that is pure pain. Specially on a 21" monitor :( It's running with the generic/OpenFirmware fb device, and i can't seem to change this.. Is there really no way of changing this? PS. using kernel 2.4.6 and X 4.10 Regards, Tor

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7.1 on PM7600 with G3-upgrade?
by Philipp Leusmann 13 Aug '01

13 Aug '01

Hi, i am trying to install Suse 7.1 on an PM7600 with LittleJoe G3-Upgradeboard. I am starting the installation from ramdisk but when it tries to start yast (now matter wether 1 or 2) I always get an error-message. When I try to install via NFS, I get an error-message, too. When I insmod rtl8139 and the kernel-messages pop up, they are always starting with something like "bad extfs2 on ramdisk. Trying to write behind last block". Thats not exactly what it says, but nearly :). I can´t look now. Could anyone tell me what could be the problem? Thanks, Philipp

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Still no news
by mark grewar 12 Aug '01

12 Aug '01

I still cannot load SuSE 7.1 on my iMac, even though going by the manual and by experts advice, Why?! Surely, its not much to ask for - the EXACT things to type into the firmware to allow a bootup into SuSE. Its not that SuSE is not working, Its just that it won't boot on its own!! Why should I use a CD1 to boot when I don't even want mac on my ppc?? Can anyone help me? The SuSE people can't! - and don't ask me why yaboot and chooser don't work - they were done properly on OS9.1 and I prefer to use OS X as a partition, but no one seems to know how to just use OS X and SuSE 7.1 on the same hard drive. Many thanks, Mark

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Unwanted attachments
by John A Ure 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

I won't be the only one to complain about this - but if any other unthinking subscriber sends out a 1.7 mb attachment (or any attachment for that matter) to everyone on this list, then that's the end of my involvement. -- John A. Ure (john(a)jaure.demon.co.uk) Fax(UK): 0870 056 8174; Fax(Outside UK): +44 870 056 8174

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Re: [suse-ppc] suse linux and new power mac G4
by Jean-Francois Donati 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

Thanks for the trick about the oschooser. It works well now. It was really a pain having to go through the openfirmware each time. The modem works as well, but only when the new ppp rmp (ie ppp-2.4.0-3.ppc.rpm) is installed. This is a good point. I still get the `eth0 PHY reset timeout !` each time i boot, but it does not look to be fatal. Sound does NOT work. I installed the modules-alsa.conf, included the line in the module.conf file (at the same location as in the example module.conf file posted on your web site). I did rcalsaound start as root and got the alsa sound driver started (driver name: snd-card-awacs). I am not too sure about alsamixer: i cannot toggle between the various channels. I used the kde mixer instead (and checked that unmuting channels with the kde mixer unmuted channels in the alsamixer as well) and unmuted all channels that could be unmuted. In particular, I unmuted headphone, which seems to be the channel that controls the volume of the internal speaker (this is the one to move to control the sound on the pismo at least). But nothing happens. I don't even get the system beep. Color table is just as POOR. I tried to remove the `video=ofonly' kernel argument, and it makes no difference at all. I tried to run sax2 -a and it essentially rebooted the x server (i'm not too sure whether it did something else: it did not update the /etc/XF86Config file in any case. Note that I'm still in XFree86 3.3. I need a proper XF86Config file (new version, the one that goes in /etc/X11) to switch to 4.0.1. I tried to make one that include the Screen section you suggested, but it need also a Device section that contains more than what i have at the moment (Identifier "Primary-Card"). I've read somewhere that there is a nvidia driver called nv, even for ppc, but that this driver does not work very well for the geforce2 mx. May be it does not work for acceleration, but it may help for the colors (it's really the x11 colors that don't work, the colors in console mode - init 2 - seem ok). Is this right?? I don't have this driver on the suse7.0ppc disc, and I have no idea of what i need to specify for the kernel arguments and for the XF86Config Device section (in particular BoardName, BusID, Option). Would you have it somewhere, or at least some idea of where i could find it?? Any help would be very welcome. Thanks again.

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Fwd: GXT2000p adapter + suse 7.1
by Alberto Da Milano 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

Hi experts, yesterday I read in Suse support DB that there is a new adapter supported in IBM RS/6k env. It seems that it is necessary to have a recent kernel (2.4.6 ) and an openfirmware driver : I suppose it means I have to download the latest microcode for the workstation I want to install. The URL is http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/olh_ppc_hardware_ibm.html (this is the whole line of info): GXT 2000P (requires kernel 2.4.6 and newer, OpenFirmware driver) Is there someone who can kindly suggest me how to configure the last kernel in order to have the support for this adapter? ( for example if I have to activate fb for MATROX (???) or else...) or better if is there a precompiled kernel I can download? And what is exactly an openfirmware driver? Thanks in advance and best regards Alberto bat21(a)libero.it -------------------------------------------------------

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Still cannot get SuSE 7.1 to boot without cd1
by Mark Grewar 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

Hello SuSE People. Thank you all for your help the last week. I Still cannot get SuSE 7.1 to boot without cd1, I did ALL the correct things - only one thing was different from others; My /etc/fstab had the /dev/hda9 /mac/MacOS9.1 hfs as ro and not rw! I could not work out hot to fix this. I really would like to use only linux on my iMac, so, is there a magic formula i can type into the firmware to finally allow an install of SuSE 7.1 to bot on powering up? (my firmware crashed after doing last installs as per manual many thanks again Mark.

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Re: [suse-ppc] suse linux and new power mac G4
by Jean-Francois Donati 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

You can find below the files you requested. The first one is the output from Display Name Registry 1.1, the second one from dmesg and the third one the gzipped tar file produced by suse_hw_info.sh. It corresponds to a linux suse 7.0 implementation updated with kernel-benh.rpm. Not working at the moment is: the colour map in X11 is complete rubbish (eg the standard Konsole setup gives black text on black background, but using the `System colors' of the Schema option gives you black on white. But still, you get colour problems with many apps. Do you have any ideas of how to fix this issue?? the accelerated video card support does not work. I did not try to update to xfree 4.1 yet (i'm still in 3, ie the basic 7.0 setup). Shall i try, and in which case, which XF86Config is expected to give me the best results?? ethernet does not work. I get the `eth0 can't locate modprobe module' error. It looks as if i don't even have the gmac module. Would this fix the problem?? Where should i find it?? sound does not work either. yast2 does not detect any problem and tells me that it should work (the sound card is an awacs card if i remember correctly). modem probably works but i did not try yet. As far as yaboot is concerned, i can boot using yaboot, but only by typing: boot ultra1:8,\\yaboot in the open firmware enviromnent. The oschooser (supposed to send this message to the open firmware) does not work. Is there a way to make this work, and in particular the use of the space bar to toggle between macos and linux, which i find very convenient ?? Thanks again very much for your help. jean-francois.

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Drucker an der seriellen Schnittstelle
by Ritchie-W＠t-online.de 08 Aug '01

08 Aug '01

hallo, ich versuche derzeit meinen Postscript Drucker an der seriellen Druckerschnittstelle von meinem Powerbook anzuschliessen. Unter MacOS kein Problem, jedoch habe ich bis jetzt noch kein Erfolg auf der Linux Seite. Das Problem ist, das ich nicht weiss, welches Device die Modem Drucker Schnittstelle vom Mac verwendet. Ein Blick in die Boot-og Datei zeigt mir folgende Zeilen <4>PowerMac Z8530 serial driver version 2.0 <4>ttyS0 at 0xcb809020 (irq = 15) is a Z8530 ESCC, port = modem-printer <4>ttyS1 at 0xcb810000 (irq = 16) is a Z8530 ESCC, port = infrared (IrDA) <4>ttyS2 at 0xcb816020 (irq = 79) is a Z8530 ESCC, port = internal-modem ( Ich vermute daher das ttyS0 der Modem-Drucker darstellt. jedoch hat folgendes Kommando keine Wirkung gezeigt. echo -en "Dies ist eine Testzeile /f" > /dev/ttyS0 Wie kann ich unter Linux die Baudrate, parity, etc.. aendern. Und noch besser waere, wie ist die Einstellung einer Apple-tal Verbindung und wie bekomme ich das Protokoll auf diese Schnittstelle ? Viele Grüße Richard

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Re: [suse-ppc] suse linux and new power mac G4
by Jean-Francois Donati 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

> > I dont think you will see much performace difference in Linux and > rage128 are well supported. > No idea if nvidia will ever provide ppc drivers, where did you see a ppc > driver on the xfree86 site? > I haven't seen a driver on the xfree86 site, just a file mentionning that XF86 version 4.1 supports the nvidia card. And they have a ppc version, not of the driver, but of xfree86 4.1. And they don't mention explicitely that the ppc version of xfree86 doesn't support the nvidia card in accelerated mode. May be it's just incomplete information about their packages. > > At first, make sure you can always boot into Linux with a kernel that is > know to work. Booting via CD would be an option. > > You can find newer kernels here: > /mirror/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/BETA/sleep/ > There is a kernel-benh.rpm, it installs /boot/vmlinux-benh, configure > lilo to boot that kernel, you still need "video=ofonly" > Boot that kernel and send me the "dmesg" output. > There is a script to collect needed infos from the /proc filesystem: > /mounts/mirror/SuSE/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA/suse_hw_info.sh > But it can hang your machine. > I booted from a 2.4 ppc kernel that i got from the web. But i didnot have the corresponding system map nor the set of modules. Meanwhile, i dowloaded benh kernel 2.4.6 with system map AND modules. Is this one ok?? Or should i use the 2.4.7-pre6 that you have on the suse/ppc/kernel/BETA/sleep ftp area (there is no specific set of modules available though)? By the way, I'm not too sure of what I actually need to do to properly upgrade suse7.0 to the 2.4.6 kernel. I tried this on my pismo (where i had a a working suse7.0 config with xfree4.0 activated, with an upgrade to kernel 2.2.17pre20-ben3, which works nice except for firewire, sound, sleep and dvd drive). Although it booted correctly, trackpad was no longer active (/usr/bin/trackpad was giving the message "no trackpad!" at boot). I tried to install several additional rpm's (in particular devs-2001.1.2-11.ppc.rpm and modutils-2.4.2-11.ppc.rpm) but it did not improve the situation. Also, sleep was behaving strangely: the pismo went to sleep at bizarre times, even while i was typing. When waking up, strangely enough the trackpad was active although i did nothing specific in that aim (the `trackpad notap' setting seems to be lost each at each wake up though). The copy/paste mouse utility was no longer active with the 2.4.6 kernel, while it was working ok with the 2.2.17 one. Obviously, I missed some crucial steps in the upgrade. Any ideas of what it can be?? I usually don't use lilo to boot, but rather yaboot (using the space bar to toggle between macos and linux). It looks as if it does not work on the G4. As if the open firmware did not get the message from the os-chooser. I have to boot in the open firmware enviroment, and mention explicitely that i need to boot using yaboot. Any ideas of what is causing this?? The normal procedure works perfectly with the pismo, but not with the G4. Is this due to a newer openfirmware?? I don't have the G4 here, but will bring it back tomorrow for new tests. I tried the suse_hw_info.sh script on my pismo and it worked fine, so hopefully,it will work for the G4 as well. I will send you all the information tomorrow. > If you have OS9 installed, download the PCI DDK 3.0 from > http://developer.apple.com/sdk/: > ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Development_Kits/PCI_DDK_3.0.sit.hqx > There is a tool Display Name Registry 1.1, start that, go to > "file, save as.." activate "save all entries" and send me the file. > > I'm not sure how to solve the black text on black background bug, you > could try to activate 256 colors in MacOS, the OF driver will use that. > I also downloaded PCI_DDK_3.0 ok, tried Display Name Registry 1.1 on the pismo and it seems to work fine. I'll do all this on the G4 and will send you the output tomorrow. Meanwhile, any info you can have on upgrading the pismo to the 2.4.6 benh kernel is welcome. The simplest way is probably to buy suse7.1ppc, and i may do it if suse7.3ppc is not expected before a while ;o) ... Thanks again very much for your help!! > > > Gruss Olaf > > -- > $ man clone > > BUGS > Main feature not yet implemented... >

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Suse 7.1 PPC and Ximian Gnome
by Janus Sandsgaard 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Hi Are people at Suse helping Ximian to bring Red Carpet to Suse 7.1 PPC? I would love to see Red Carpet on my Pismo; the perfect tool for keeping your system up to date; The only thing I miss at PPC compared to my x86-system. -j -- Netcetera Aps Men are from Earth. Brolaeggerstraede 4 Women are from Earth. DK - 1211 Koebenhavn K Deal with it!

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Gnome update?
by BillT＠Mahagonny.com 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Has anyone installed the GNOME update for ppc 7.1 that is on the ftp site? Is there an easier way to do it than selecting each file individually with Yast? Thanks, -- BillT(a)Mahagonny.com PGP KeyID#: 0xFB966670

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Re: [suse-ppc] suse linux and new power mac G4
by Jean-Francois Donati 07 Aug '01

07 Aug '01

Following the howto written by Dave Ray (penguinppc.org/usr/newg4howto.html) gave me the same results he described. What I did was: use the suse 7.0 CD along with a newer kernel (2.4.2 if I remember correctly) with the following yaboot install parameters: image = vmlinux label = installer initrd = ramdisk.image.gz initrd-size = 64000 root = /dev/ram0 video = ofonly it looks as if using the parameters of the os chooser are not properly transmitted to the open firmware. i had to boot in the open firmware, then to boot on the proper partition (ie boot ultra1:8,\\yaboot) The yast2 installer works ok, apart from the fact that the windows appear as black rectangles with nothing in them. it's only when you click in them that the highlighted text becomes visible. It's inconvenient but it works. Then the installer reboots and the reboot fails. I had to reboot under macos, changed the yaboot parameters to image = vmlinux label = linux root = /dev/hdb6 hda = autotune video = ofonly and reboot again through the open firmware. all the install went fine, even the XF86 version 3 (the one that comes with suse 7.0 by default) worked fine, except that the whole screen appears in psychedelic colors. Konsoles are basically unuable (black text on black background), except if you chose some non standard setup, where you get greenish text on black background. Still, it's hard to work with. I tried to change to a newer configuration of Xfree (4.0.1, ie that also provided with suse 7.0) and messed up my xf86Config file, and could no longer get x to work. But as the ethernet card does not work either (neither does the sound card), i stopped my investigations, hoping that there will be some new suse version integrating all this soon. i didnot test the cd/dvd burner yet... as far as the video card support, going to the xfree86 site, they say that version 4.1 supports the nvidia geforce 2 mx (accelerated), and they have a ppc version. They do not mention that the ppc version does not provide accelerated X for this nvidia card, so I assume that it worked. I tried to install it directly from the xfree86 site, but i could not even get x working: it looks as if the suse version of xfree86 is slightly different than the official version. is this right?? I also tried to install the rpm's from the suse ftp site (ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/X/suse71/4.1.0) but it failed again (version GLIBC2.2 not found). May be it's because I only have suse7.0ppc rather than suse7.1ppc. According to you, there will be no ppc driver for nvidia. It sounds really stupid isn't it?? given the fact that they produced drivers for intel platforms, why not for ppc platforms as well?? Is that what the nvidia guys told you??? Is it definite?? I'm reluctant to go back to an ati rage128 card as they are supposed to be far worse in terms of graphical performance. Any idea of how i could make the ethernet card work?? I thought of buying suse7.1ppc to see if it worked any better. is it supposed to work any better than the 7.0 version for all the above issues (os chooser booting, nvidia accelerated support, ethernet, sound)?? when is the 7.3ppc supposed to come out? should it perform better on this particular hardware?? Thanks again in advance for all the info. cheers, jean-francois.

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unsubscribe suse-ppc
by Francisco Jesus 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

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suse linux and new power mac G4
by Jean-Francois Donati 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

Hi, I've just bought a new G4 in the aim of putting linux onto it to turn it into a small workstation. I assumed that it would be very easy, just as it was with SuSe linux 7.0 on my pismo. However, I discovered that there is no linuxppc driver yet available for the nvidia card (Geforce 2) that comes in with this new hardware. I found since then the list of problematic macs on the suse page (which includes the new G4s), but it does not mention when linux should be available for these macs. I've noticed on the nvidia web site that there actually ARE some linux drivers for these cards, but only for the INTEL distributions. I tried to download the sources and compile the driver myself, but it failed (some files seem to be missing). I imagine that most information about the nvidia card is contained in the intel versions of the drivers. Is that right?? In this case, making drivers that work for the new G4s should be fairly easy, and I imagine they will be part of the next Suse PPC distribution (7.3, as i understand). Is this right or am I completely wrong?? Note that in case you need guinea pigs to test new nvidia drivers, I would like to be one of those. Trust me for doing all sorts of nasty tests... THanks a lot for any information you can provide on this subject. Best regards, jean-francois DOnati

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update dependency error
by Joss Winn 06 Aug '01

06 Aug '01

Hi, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I just ran the YAST2 online update and installed openssl 0.9.6a-14. The RPM package says it should provide libssl.so.0 and libcrypto.so.0 as well as libssl.so.0.9.6 and libcrypto.so.0.9.6. However, only the 0.9.6 libs were installed and without the plain x.so.0 libraries, there are dependency problems. I fixed them by making symbolic links to the later 0.9.6 versions, but clearly there is a mistake here in the packaging since the description says it provides the old libs but in fact does not. I noticed that both Mutt and Konqueror (web browser mode not file manager) were broken without the old ssl and crypto libs. cheers Joss --

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