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Re: [opensuse-factory] Contrib: Progress
by Dominique Leuenberger 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 17:44 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > Well, yes, this technique can work. > > Actually the review procedure is supposed to work the way you > described - the uneven number of reviewers is to solve issues of "last > resort". If you need to overrule a decision of soe veto-holders by a vote I'd be highly concerned. As long as the people with a veto have a valid argument, I think even a 99% voting in favour of a package should not let it in. Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Contrib: Progress
by Dominique Leuenberger 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 17:09 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > It seems that some people here don't like the idea of "uneven number > of Reviewers". > > I would like to hear ideas of improvement. How to make this project a success ? > Alexey, I don't think that voting is the way to got for such a repository. We should consider the reviewers more as a 'board of advisors'. When a new package is proposed and 'accepted' by one of the reviewers, it should go in, except if any random other one has a veto. As long as there is a veto, the package should not go in (well: as long as the veto is backed with argumentation of course.... arguments other than 'i do not use this package' of course). Comments? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Contrib: Progress
by Alexey Eremenko 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

It seems that some people here don't like the idea of "uneven number of Reviewers". I would like to hear ideas of improvement. How to make this project a success ? -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Contrib: Progress
by Dominique Leuenberger 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 12:29 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > The main idea behind this, is that uneven number will allow us to > agree on problematic packages. > If a package get's a 50%/50% vote, then maybe some discussion about it might solve it? IF voting if the best thing to be done at all... A democratic system is not always the best solution. And depending such a system on any random number of members sounds wrong. Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Contrib: Progress
by Alexey Eremenko 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

Hi all, Both contrib wiki page and the candidate packages wiki page are growing rapidly, which is a good sign. Links: http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib/packages However, We still haven't really started. I think we should. There is one open question: contrib-updates. > What about updates for single packages in that repository? > If the repository is frozen after the release, we need an additional repository just for packages containing bugfixes and security fixes. Who will maintain this additional repository? > Who will review the packages submitted there? Should there be patches like for the official openSUSE packages available? I would prefer to keep updates to the minimum - only critical bugfixes and critical security fixes. As for distribution - I don't know if we need a separate branch for updates, but I think yes, having separate branch for updates is a good idea. Not sure what we will implement. Any ideas on this should be handled? -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Contrib: Progress
by Dominique Leuenberger 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 15:46 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > Now, if you look in candidates page: "http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib/packages" > You will see that most packages are of little-to-medium difficulty. > That's about the most difficult thing to decide upon: how complex will it be to package an application. Before doing it, you can hardly know how broken the build system is, that a random project is using. Sometimes, the 'easy' looking leaf object gives you a major headache, simply because you have to patch out half of the Makefile, remove all the (in)-sanity checks, simply because you know better than what you do. Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Opensuse-bugs outdated
by Daniele 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

Hi, opensuse-bugs ML seems outdated, no new bug since 4 days! I filled two new bugs few hours ago.. Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] Enhancement #399239 - feedback
by Roberto Mannai 23 Aug '08

23 Aug '08

Please read all the bug comments / clarifications :) this enhancement request is not about "out of disk space" alert; it is about reporting the total of bytes your going to install / remove. Now that total bytes is showed when the installation step is already started (really when starting to download the packages). Other package management tools show the disk variation: SMART and Synaptics, if I'm not wrong... On 6/23/08, Michael Mientus <michael.mientus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Roberto Mannai <robermann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 > > I like the way YaST works now: it warns you if you are running out of > disc space. > > Mike > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Adding new packages to Contrib
by Michal Marek 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Hi, I tried to describe a process of adding packages to the Contrib repo: http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib/Adding_new_packages . Note that this is just a proposal, if you think that something is missing, or that something is a plain stupid requirement, just say so :). I just thought it's time to have something more specific. Michal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Can´t download correct install iso of Aplha2
by Rastislav Krupanský 22 Aug '08

22 Aug '08

Hi all. I´ve just downloaded the second time installation DVD Alpha2, but md5sums are still different. I tried torrents from http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/11.1-Alpha2/iso/torrent/ and http://mirror.karneval.cz/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/11.1-Alpha2/iso/t…. The similar issue i had also with Alpha1 (i tried it to download three times). Could you give me any advice where can i get correct iso or what can i do? Thanks a lot Regards, Rasto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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