March 2008 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] KDE 3 vs KDE4 branch
by Alexey Eremenko 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hi all ! I know that Novell is heavily pushing KDE4 upon the community, but the problem is - many KDE users still prefer KDE3 due to lack-of-features in KDE4. Personally I feel KDE4 is not ready. I have filled about ~10 bugs, but most of them are still unfixed. I suggest this: Instead of "pushing" KDE4 upon the community, let the users decided during setup, if they want GNOME, KDE3 or KDE4 desktop. -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] request for comments: disable ssh daemon by default
by Marcus Meissner 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi, We are thinking about disabling the ssh daemon by default. Reason is that it most desktop users do not use it all and it is just taking away memory for those, and also presenting an attack surface once the firewall is disabled. Also its is blocked by the firewall from remote by default. Reenabling it would be as simble as: insserv sshd rcsshd start We are still undecided whether to do so or not. Ciao, Marcus -- Working, but not speaking, for the following german company: SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Move dazuko into kernel?
by Ann Davis 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hello, The current dazuko package in openSUSE 11.0 contains dazuko and redirfs, with a configuration setting to make dazuko use the redirfs interface instead of LSM. (Because dazuko is compiled as an external module, LSM is not available to it.) But there is a new dazuko version (2.3.5-pre1) which puts dazuko into the kernel as an LSM which can be turned on/off via a boot parameter (like AppArmor). I think this would be a good approach, since I believe that dazuko as an LSM has had more production-level testing than redirfs. Thoughts? Thanks, Ann --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Root password limited to 8 characters if Windows Domain is used (11.0 A3)
by Sunny 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, I just submitted a bug case about it: <https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=375586> -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] XGL settings in yast
by Rodrigo Moya 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi We have now patched gnome-xgl-settings to not contain any configuration at all (it just calls ccsm for all config), so it is now just a simple frontend to gnome-xgl-switch. I've been asking and it seems compiz users in KDE use the same ugly gnome-xgl-settings, so we've been discussing (in #opensuse-factory and -gnome) about having this functionality (calling, or doing what, gnome-xgl-switch does) in YAST. The alternatives being, a) keep gnome-xgl-settings, and b) have a per-desktop solution. For b), in GNOME we would add a 'Desktop effects' tab to the appearance capplet, like Ubuntu does Not sure if as a separate module, or just under the Display config in YAST, since it's just one button ("Enable XGL"). What do you think? -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] zypper: does not recover from network hiccup.
by Carlos E. R. 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I was doing a "zypper shell" / "dup" of factory when my adsl got a hiccup, after 8 hours: network went down for some seconds, and the provider gave me a new IP. This interruption lasts something like 20..30 seconds, in the middle of a package download, causing it to abort the update: ... ... Downloading package xmoto-0.4.1-7.i586, 16.0 M (23.6 M unpacked) * Downloading: xmoto-0.4.1-7.i586.rpm [done (43.9 K/s)] * Installing: xmoto-0.4.1-7 Downloading package xgl-git_071026-48.i586, 1.6 M (4.5 M unpacked) * Downloading: xgl-git_071026-48.i586.rpm [done (89 B/s)] Problem downloading the package file from the repository: Can't provide ./suse/i586/xgl-git_071026-48.i586.rpm : Timeout exceed Please see the above error message for a hint. zypper> Shouldn't zypper offer a retry of the package before aborting? I start again "dup", and it says its going to download 1.6 GB, as if nothing were done previously. And it asks again that I accept the license I already accepted. I can not make sure that the network will not go down while downloading that amount of data! Its impossible! ... In order to install this package, you must agree to terms of the above license. Continue? [yes/NO]: yes * Removing libxine1-arts-1.1.8-0.pm.0 Error * Removing libxine1-dvb-1.1.8-0.pm.0 Error * Removing libxine1-dxr3-1.1.8-0.pm.0 Error * Removing libxine1-gnome-vfs-1.1.8-0.pm.0 Error * Removing libxine1-jack-1.1.8-0.pm.0 Error * Removing libxine1-sdl-1.1.8-0.pm.0 Error * Removing xine-browser-plugin-1.0-0.pm.0 Error * Removing TnL-tools-20070827-0.pm.2 Error * Removing TnL-20070827-0.pm.2 Error * Removing codeine-1.0.1-0.pm.0 Error * Removing libxine1-1.1.8-0.pm.0 Error Downloading package AdobeICCProfiles-2.0-100.noarch, 3.9 M (5.4 M unpacked) * Downloading: AdobeICCProfiles-2.0-100.noarch.rpm [done (75.6 K/s)] * Installing: AdobeICCProfiles-2.0-100 I had to abort the zypper shell session, restart and retry: ] nimrodel:/ # rpm -q zypper ] zypper-0.10.4-9 ] nimrodel:/ # zypper shell ] zypper> dup ... Now it says: ] Overall download size: 918.0 M. After the operation, additional 149.1 M ] will be used. So, after the restart, it does know that "some" 700 MB were already updated. Shouldn't it be cleverer than that? It should have asked me if I wanted to retry or abort, not abort without question. I'm sure that all users can not ensure a fully reliable network for the many hours of the download! - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH7XCBtTMYHG2NR9URAog8AKCMvN1aPNYyKotF1WiZe42T78g+EQCeIsfl bdFIZIzpuqXe4o/QBIGE2xQ= =ldGF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory repo broken ?
by Markus Koßmann 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

What happened to the factory repo ? zypper dup wants to uninstall most of the installation: linux-n04x:~ # zypper dup Aktualisiere 'KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop' Aktualisiere 'KDE4:/STABLE:/Community' Aktualisiere 'factory' Aktualisiere 'KDE4:/STABLE:/Extra-Apps' Aktualisiere 'SL-Factory-non-oss/' Reading installed packages... Folgende Auswahl von Paket werden aktualisiert werden: java-1_6_0-sun java-1_5_0-sun gst-fluendo-mp3 AdobeICCProfiles flash-player RealPlayer parted-32bit evolution-data-server-32bit Die folgende Auswahl von Paket werden downgegraded: wireless-tools udev python-gnome openobex obex-data-server libvolume_id libsmbios-libs libreiserfs libnss3 libnotify1 libnotify libnl libgvfscommon0libfuse2 libarchive2 hwinfo hal gvfs-fuse gvfs-backends gvfs gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base bluez-libs OpenOffice_org-writer OpenOffice_org-pyuno OpenOffice_org-math OpenOffice_org-kde OpenOffice_org-impress OpenOffice_org-gnome OpenOffice_org-filters OpenOffice_org-calc OpenOffice_org-base OpenOffice_org NetworkManager-gnome NetworkManager-glib NetworkManager MozillaFirefox-translations MozillaFirefox 3ddiag libpoppler2 libpoppler-qt2 Paket werden installiert (neu): hpijs-standalone device-mapper-32bit amarok-lang bundle-lang-gnome-ar Paket werden GELÖSCHT: yast2-firewall zisofs-tools yast2-mail-plugins yast2-dns-server yast2-online-update-frontend yast2-fingerprint-reader yast2-storage yast2-ycp-ui-bindings yast2-hardware-detection [...] anjuta-lang anjuta amarok-yauap amarok-libvisual Gesamtgröße des Downloads: 163,8 M. Nach dem Vorgang wird 5,3 G freigegeben. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Ad: [opensuse-factory] request for comments: disable ssh daemon by default
by birger.kollstrand＠googlemail.com 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

2008/3/28, Marcus Meissner <meissner(a)suse.de>: > Hi, > > We are thinking about disabling the ssh daemon by default. > > Reason is that it most desktop users do not use it all > and it is just taking away memory for those, and also > presenting an attack surface once the firewall is disabled. > > Also its is blocked by the firewall from remote by default. > > Reenabling it would be as simble as: > > insserv sshd > rcsshd start > > We are still undecided whether to do so or not. > > Ciao, Marcus > -- > Working, but not speaking, for the following german company: > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org Please , do not change this. In engineering environments ssh is used all the time. In our company it's essential in several manners. We use it for user/server support, remote login, fish:// files from other machines and we also use the NX desktop solution extensively. So , please. Do not change this for the sake of a few newbies. It does not bother them that it is there, but it certainly would bother us if it's not there. Kind Regards Birger Kollstrand Devoteam Telecom AS --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Where to report KDE4 bugs?
by Volker Kuhlmann 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

Should I report KDE4 bugs to the bugzilla at opensuse or at kde? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Support of new AMD 780G Chipset
by Greg KH 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:42:11AM +0100, Birger Kollstrand wrote: > 2008/3/29, Greg KH <gregkh(a)suse.de>: > > This might not help that much but 780G motherboars are already up and > running with Ubuntu 8.04. > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_780g_linux&num=6 Great, then it should be working with 11.0 as well. What specifically does not work with 11.0? thanks, greg k-h --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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