December 2008 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-factory] Which repo to use for updater testing in 11.2A.0?
by Rajko M. 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

On Saturday 06 December 2008 09:34:18 pm Dale Ritchey wrote: > The kpdateapplet is fine. I'm just too old (it seems). I've seen 10.1, which was bad right in package management and I would like to have alternative to PackageKit, just to have exit if new stuff fails in a new unexpected, but spectacular way. I actually don't know much about it, and even worse I don't want to know. I getting worn from learning new stuff every few months. > the problem is tat there is a kernelupgrade > and another test program on the update repo > thats messing everybody up. but the applet is working ok. > anyway it can be updated by right clicking and configuring All updates before Gold Master that is probably quite close, are tests for update system. After release date updates will be real. > By the way is opensuse 11.1alpha up already > I have it installed and testing Well, Factory repository can be already set for 11.2, Colo mentioned something like that, but Alpha 1, as any other development release , is Factory snapshot and it is not out yet. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1
by Quentin Jackson 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Interesting how when I put down real issues below, with real effort I get not a single response, not even one. Or did no-one notice my comments? I'm screaming out to help here. Q >>> Quentin Jackson 12/05/08 12:23 PM >>> >>> Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> 12/04/08 8:30 PM >>> Am Donnerstag 04 Dezember 2008 schrieb Quentin Jackson: > I don't have an Intel GFX card but yes if that is happening it is a big > mistake. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone responsible for > fixing this 'big picture' stuff, or maybe they're only interested in > SLED. Even though OpenSuSE keeps making big strides with many things > many of these 'Mistakes' are letting the distribution down making it not > worth even considering for some people. Imagine if you had only ever > tried 11.1, you would go off and tell your friends it didn't even > support an intel 965 chip. > >Hi Quentin, >You must have different kind of friends than I have. If I tell mine that the >3d performance for an intel 3 numbers chip is not as good as before, they >would most likely say "hmm? intel what?" >Seriously: as you seem to know the details of clever business, perhaps you >can help out here. We have two options at the moment: >1. skip 11.1 release and publish 11.2 in about 8 months hoping that Intel got >their drivers ready to support all their chips correctly. >2. release 11.1 and basically document that all intel 3 number chips (for >certain 3 numbers only of course) have to skip 11.1 and wait for 11.2 in >about half a year. >What's the choice you prefer? You seem to advocate option 1. >Greetings, Stephan >P.S. And if you think my mail is unfriendly, read yours again. I did not mean to be rude or unfriendly and I realise it may have been a bad example. And yes I have many tech friends, and tech friends are who the non-techs ask for advice. I also did say there are good things about opensuse, please understand I only want to make things better, we are on the same team here and this subject is something I care a lot about and so do many others. I am not interested in ranting about this, I only want to fix the issue but to me it seems as though either no-one is listening or I do not know how to raise this as an issue properly or perhaps where to raise it. Perhaps even there is no-where to raise it? All I want and I'm sure everyone will agree is a nice stable OS. As far as your options above are concerned I would choose neither, I think 6 months is too quick because we don't seem to be able to get a reliable distro out of 6 months, but as I said that is my opinion. So at the end of the day I don't know if anything can be done, I've made suggestions before, perhaps to the wrong places but I've not had any action positive or negative, not even a no we can't do that from an authority figure who could approve such a change. When it comes to these high level decisions (which I know should only be made when very neccessary) I don't seem to be able to find anyone to talk to. I personally think making a stable OS is neccessary. I guess the first issue is to get an agreeance on if there is an issue, without that it is pointless. What I have noticed is that when the distro get's delayed a lot of people speak up and say, "That's great, more time before release means more bug fixes" showing that a lot of other people care about this topic too. For 11.1 though we let the distro stay in beta longer and reduced the RC time to compensate, to me that means more bugs will get in and less will get out, if we allow beta's to continue for a longer period of time, it shouldn't be at the expense of the RC's where we really throw polish in, (again in my opinion). So I guess the question there was which is more important, the release schedule or the quality of the release? It seems to me that the release schedule is getting more attention than the latter. So, does the community get to vote on how this schedule should be? Who makes the decision of the 6 months release schedule? If we are stuck with 6 months how could we do it better? Can we have clearer guidelines to show what 'shipstoppers' should be? Can we broaden the scope of a shipstopper? Honestly, if I'm the only one that thinks that this is an issue I'm happy to never bring it up again, but I'd bet I'm not. We could always stick a voting panel up on the opensuse main page to find out. And one last thing, if I offended anyone in the last email, please accept my apology. Q -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org -- This message was scanned by ESVA and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Grub fails after changing boot order in Yast in RC1
by Thomas Meindl 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

Hello, I'm under pressure an not having time to post this to bugzilla, so maybe some of you can confirm the following: I installed oS 11.1 RC1 on an eeePC 1000h with a SD card. The system runs fine, after setting KNetworkmanager explicitely to WPA1 & WPA2/RSN and only TKIP. After the first update, a new kernel was installed, and as I rebooted, grub came up with a selection of opensuse and Windows, where the default was set to Windows. Therefore I booted openSuse, entered the Yast bootmanager configuration changed the boot order back to openSUSE. After this, I couldn't boot anymore, because grub was not found on the disk ('No operation system on HD'). Reinstalling oS brought back the full functionality. Kind regards, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Update on Intel video problem.
by Fred A. Miller 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

BOTH PCLinuxOS 2009 beta2 and Fedora are using the older Intel driver....we SHOULD being the same thing, so that all the 3 digit numbered chipsets don't suffer from excruciatingly BAD performance! Fred -- "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson, 1802 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] PCLinuxOS Beta 2009
by Fred A. Miller 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

Well, I find what they have to say about KDE of interest. ;) Fred _____________________ This beta iso features kernel 2.6.26.8.tex1, KDE 3.5.10, Open Office 2.4.1, Firefox 3.0.4, Thunderbird 2.0.0.17, Frostwire, Ktorrent, Amarok, Flash, Java JRE, Compiz-Fusion 3D and much more. We decided to use kde3-5-10 as our default desktop as the we could not achieve a similar functionality from kde4. We will however offer kde4 as an alternative desktop environment available from the repo once we stabilize it. http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=58&topic=51130.0 -- "Politicians and diapers need to be changed regularly -- and for the same reason." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Anyone luck with nvidia and compiz?
by Putrycz, Erik 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

I cannot get anything to work with compiz and all ends with /usr/bin/compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'glx' Erik. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] GMC livecds
by Stephan Kulow 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

Hi, Strictly speaking it's not Factory, but I put the GMC live cds at the usual place: http://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/FactoryLiveCDs/ It would be good to give the 11.1 kernel some testing. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] -br option not passed before starting k/gdm
by Giovanni Masucci 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

Hello to everybody, I'm on opensuse 11.1rc and I see at everyboot the old-style greish garbage when X is starting before the dm is loaded. This because the option -br is not passed. If I add it in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager I get a much more accetable black intro screen, like in most modern distribution. Is this intentional for some reason that I don't know? If not it would be nice to get rid of that ugly grey screen before 11.1 final. We are in 2008 after all :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE Factory updates
by John Lange 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

I know I saw a post which explained that the Factory updates would be less frequent now that there are builds going on for RC1 (or something along that line). I'm new to Factory so I don't know what the previous frequency was but I'm only seeing new packages for Factory about once a week. Is this the expected frequency? I'm not complaining; I just thought that I'd be able to do a significant amount of testing leading up to the release date but at this frequency my testing is pretty much irrelevant. There would only be 2 more Factory "releases" before the official launch so I don't feel that I'm contributing in any significant way to the testing effort. I have a few bug tickets and at least one that has a posted solution: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=434598 but I have no clue how to test it as there are no updates for Factory at this time. If I'm reading the bug report correctly, the only way to test would be to have the source for that package, apply the patch and recompile? If that's the way it is then that's OK but I would suggest however that having nightly builds of these things available would result in a larger testing audience. I'm hoping someone can clue me in on how to be a more effective tester. Regards, -- John Lange www.johnlange.ca -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] How to use system if even keyboard dont work right? (bnc 432627)
by Виталий Томин 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

In all development releases since beta2 (maybe even earlier) backspace on my keyboard dont work russian keyboard layout. I think this issue not only about russian keyboard layout, but all others cases with two or more keyboard layouts. I've tried to ask for SHIP_STOPPER, but there is not much comments on bug and was rejected. I think it was happened because small nuber of peoples who report bugs use more than one keyboard layout. When I ask who have this issue in factory openSUSE on one of russian linux forums I found that all have this issue, and some peoples comment out bnc432627 with their experience and provide more information. Also I've found that the same issue reproduces in 11.0 with kde3.5 when I install XOrg 7.4 from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_11.0/ If bug will go to release how I should promote or just recommend system where even keyboard dont work? What I should say to peoples who ask why it happened and what can be done? I think openSUSE will loose a lot of users, who use more than one keyboard layout. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Problems with opensuse 11.1 + bzflag
by TooMany Secrets 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

Hi! I've installed opensuse 11.1 rc (1/2?) updated past Wednesday 3, between 9 or 9:30 AM. The desktop is a Gnome 2.24, and the bzflag game is the incorporated in this release. When I try to play to bzflag, all run fine... less the sound. No sound for this game, but yes for systems' sounds. I've included my user in all "pulse*" groups, but without any result. Anybody could help me, please? Thank you very much. -- Have a nice day ;-) TooManySecrets ============================ Dijo Confucio: "Exígete mucho a ti mismo y espera poco de los demás. Así te ahorrarás disgustos." ============================

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[opensuse-factory] How can I install a pattern with zypper, in factory?
by Carlos E. R. 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

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Ответ: [opensuse-factory] How to use system if even keyboard dont work right? (bnc 432627) Solution Found!
by Виталий Томин 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

I've found why this issue happens. It is old bugfix, made as hack in file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.common there are lines: # # Fix keyboard layout on newer Xservers (Bug #368673, Bug #433983) # xdpyinfo | grep -q "X.Org version: 6.9.0" || \ setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY when I commnet out it or remove, all works pretty good, no more strange keymaps, all keys works. Please, include it in GM, really nessesary fix for russian users. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Strace update
by Rajko M. 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

Strace update (broken). ....................... After giving password, updater tells that I can't do update, and advice to use YOU. Used YOU and it complains that it can't satisfy dependencies. I selected not to update. Later, updater has the same update, but this time it updates without asking password. BTW: What kind of information this test should provide? -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Unable to boot with fresh install - Disk not found errors
by Jeremy Figgins 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

Hi, I've got an Acer laptop, AMD Sempron, 512MB ram, SiS chipset (including the IDE controller). The 11.1 beta 5 and RC 1 behaved absolutely identically in all that follows: After a fresh install, I get the following messages: blogd: can not open pty/tty pair: No such file or directory Trying manual resume from /dev/disk/by-id/ata-IC25N080ATMR04-0_MRA401K7K7Y9DH-part3 (swap) This is followed by some USB messages and then: Waiting for device /dev/disk/by-id/ata-IC25N080ATMR04-0_MRA401K7K7Y9DH-part2 (/) to appear: ...... not found Want me to fall back to /dev/disk/by-id/ata-IC25N080ATMR04-0_MRA401K7K7Y9DH-part2? (Y/n) If I select 'no', I go immediately to the shell. If I select 'yes', it searches again and then dumps me to the shell. modprobe -l lists the following ide modules: ide-core.ko pci/sis5513.ko pci/ide-pci-generic.ko ide-disk.ko I've tried both the beta 5 and RC1. Neither would install with images enabled. Both installs generated no error messages if installed without images. Originally, my Linux partitions were in an extended partition. I eliminated that and now they are primary partitions. I've tried installing everything to a single partition and that didn't help. I tried using the default kernel (instead of the PAE), but that didn't help either. I get the feeling that the kernel is not properly recognizing my drives. Are there any kernel flags that I could try? Thanks, Jeremy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1
by Quentin Jackson 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

>>> Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> 12/04/08 8:30 PM >>> Am Donnerstag 04 Dezember 2008 schrieb Quentin Jackson: > I don't have an Intel GFX card but yes if that is happening it is a big > mistake. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone responsible for > fixing this 'big picture' stuff, or maybe they're only interested in > SLED. Even though OpenSuSE keeps making big strides with many things > many of these 'Mistakes' are letting the distribution down making it not > worth even considering for some people. Imagine if you had only ever > tried 11.1, you would go off and tell your friends it didn't even > support an intel 965 chip. > Hi Quentin, You must have different kind of friends than I have. If I tell mine that the 3d performance for an intel 3 numbers chip is not as good as before, they would most likely say "hmm? intel what?" Seriously: as you seem to know the details of clever business, perhaps you can help out here. We have two options at the moment: 1. skip 11.1 release and publish 11.2 in about 8 months hoping that Intel got their drivers ready to support all their chips correctly. 2. release 11.1 and basically document that all intel 3 number chips (for certain 3 numbers only of course) have to skip 11.1 and wait for 11.2 in about half a year. What's the choice you prefer? You seem to advocate option 1. Greetings, Stephan P.S. And if you think my mail is unfriendly, read yours again. I did not mean to be rude or unfriendly and I realise it may have been a bad example. And yes I have many tech friends, and tech friends are who the non-techs ask for advice. I also did say there are good things about opensuse, please understand I only want to make things better, we are on the same team here and this subject is something I care a lot about and so do many others. I am not interested in ranting about this, I only want to fix the issue but to me it seems as though either no-one is listening or I do not know how to raise this as an issue properly or perhaps where to raise it. Perhaps even there is no-where to raise it? All I want and I'm sure everyone will agree is a nice stable OS. As far as your options above are concerned I would choose neither, I think 6 months is too quick because we don't seem to be able to get a reliable distro out of 6 months, but as I said that is my opinion. So at the end of the day I don't know if anything can be done, I've made suggestions before, perhaps to the wrong places but I've not had any action positive or negative, not even a no we can't do that from an authority figure who could approve such a change. When it comes to these high level decisions (which I know should only be made when very neccessary) I don't seem to be able to find anyone to talk to. I personally think making a stable OS is neccessary. I guess the first issue is to get an agreeance on if there is an issue, without that it is pointless. What I have noticed is that when the distro get's delayed a lot of people speak up and say, "That's great, more time before release means more bug fixes" showing that a lot of other people care about this topic too. For 11.1 though we let the distro stay in beta longer and reduced the RC time to compensate, to me that means more bugs will get in and less will get out, if we allow beta's to continue for a longer period of time, it shouldn't be at the expense of the RC's where we really throw polish in, (again in my opinion). So I guess the question there was which is more important, the release schedule or the quality of the release? It seems to me that the release schedule is getting more attention than the latter. So, does the community get to vote on how this schedule should be? Who makes the decision of the 6 months release schedule? If we are stuck with 6 months how could we do it better? Can we have clearer guidelines to show what 'shipstoppers' should be? Can we broaden the scope of a shipstopper? Honestly, if I'm the only one that thinks that this is an issue I'm happy to never bring it up again, but I'd bet I'm not. We could always stick a voting panel up on the opensuse main page to find out. And one last thing, if I offended anyone in the last email, please accept my apology. Q -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org -- This message was scanned by ESVA and is believed to be clean. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Plasma cashew
by Salvatore brigaglia 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Why there's no plasma "thing" (it has been named in various way) in the top right corner of the 4.1.2 kde desktop on B4? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] rc2
by Peter Czanik 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hello, Just tested the RC2 DVD (I work for a Novell partner) on a Core2Duo machine. I guess, I should have tested it earlier and not concentrate strictly on PPC... - installation from images (which is the default setting) has serious troubles: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456337 For the rest I don't have now time to bugzilla, maybe in the evening... - nvidia binary drivers installed, 3D works fine, but Compiz can't be enabled on KDE4 (Desktop settings says, that Composite and Damage extensions are missing, which is true, as Composite is disabled in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf generated by sax2) - the machine reboots while coming back from hibernation (Intel G965 chipset, nVidia binary driver was not yet enabled, when tested). This led to a broken file system and a broken KDE4 desktop (only the START menu stayed in place, the rest moved or disappeared) - I installed to an extended partition (/dev/sda5). The default boot manager configuration is broken, as grub is only installed to an extended partition. This results in an unbootable system. It works fine when MBR is also used. Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] kdm background image
by Marc Ensenbach 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hello, I just installed RC1, and one annoying thing occurred to me: On the kdm login screen the "Session Type" and "Menu" menus are nearly invisible (thin white characters on a light green background). Do others also see this problem, or might it be caused by a miscalibrated monitor? Regards, Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] KDM and fingerprint reader
by Xavier Callejas 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hi, Anyone knows if there are plans for this? rgds. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem with kupdateapplet in RC1 (plus issues with YaST + kdesu)
by Henning Schnoor 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hi Stanislav Visnovsky, (sorry for the double post, the first one only went to Stanislav's private address.) >> 1. Upgrades are not shown, even if YaST displays them. (...) >> 2. When installing patches (these are shown correctly), the first >> authorization dialog fails: ... > I think this is fixed now. Are you referring to the second problem, or to both? >> 3. Even when updating starts (...) after the >> first try, the same patches still showed as available. > Please, test with RC2 and if it still does not work, please, report a bug. I will - does this mean that an RC2 is planned before the release on Dec 18? >> 4. The progress dialog does not report which patch is applied, > Yes, I see this too, but I'm not sure if it is an applet problem, or > packagekit API itself. I think you are right. When I installed patches with zypper instead, things looked better. Is there a reason why packagekit is the standard backend and not zypper? See you, Henning -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] My observations about openSUSE 11.1 RC1
by Xavier Callejas 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

Hi, I have: > uptime 10:35am up 11:44, 1 user, load average: 0,23, 0,37, 0,42 running openSUSE 11.1 RC-1 live-CD :) , I activated some repositories from YaST and installed some packages so I can work normally in live CD, and I must say that I'm impressed (and all is running from my RAM, even I'm using NetBeans 6.5 right now, wow!), I can't wait to install the final release into my hard drive. But, there are some little things that I would really like in the final release to be fixed: - hide/unhide icons in the system tray (actually there is a dialog for hidding, but you cannot unhide them with the little arrow). - volumen keys don't work - crtl+alt+k don't change the keyboard layout - miss the very functional popup menu in dolphing and konqueror to create or add to a compressed file (zip, tar, tar.gz, etc). from a folder or files, I use this menu every day in KDE3. - kdebluetooth4 don't start Rgds. -- Xavier Callejas Open your mind, use Open Source. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] RC1
by Fred A. Miller 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

I just updated beta 5 via zypper. All seems to have gone well, but I noticed there's STILL a "show stopper" for a LOT of users with Intel video. Performance is the pits.....pure and simple. OpenGL screen savers don't run properly....often with a small widow of the same image super imposed on the full image, and they can still lock up the 'puter. Because of this, I don't dare install RC1 on a desktop with a nVidia video card for fear of what will happen. There are driver and/or "X" problems that must get fixed before release. wmv format movie clips "stutter".......not smooth due to poor performance. Fred -- "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson, 1802 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Desktop Effects turning off after restart of X
by Kevin Dupuy 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

11.1 RC1, GNOME, compiz-0.7.8-6.4 Compiz turns itself off after restarting the X server will not stay on, requiring me to go into the Desktop Effects control center module to turn it on (that window also shows it as turned off) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456275 -- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy - openSUSE Member Public Mail: <kevin.dupuy(a)opensuse.org> Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays from the Yeaux! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] plans for kernel 2.6.28
by z 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

i there any plans for using kernel 2.6.28 in upcoming 11.1 release? kernel is now in rc-4 state. is my assumption right, that if kernel will release 2.6.28 final before 11.1 release, it will be used? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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