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Dell Inspiron 8600 + DVI + FPW 2405
by Stefan Müller 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi, I try to set up an external display for my Dell laptop + Dell monitor. My first attempt was to use the sax suggestion, but this does not work. The monitor says: This mode cannot be displayed. Sax configured dual head and has a 1920x1200 modeline and the laptop display works fine, but the external display does not show anything. Sax used the radeon driver. Some time ago I found a web site giving advice on this issue and they suggested using the "ati" driver that comes with xorg. I have an old xorg.conf and this also works with SuSE 10.1. However the picture is not very sharp. I want to use the DVI connection to the screen to improve this. I have a docking station that provides a DVI port, but I do not know how to enable the DVI output. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and greetings Stefan -- Stefan Müller Universität Potsdam Tel: (+49) (+331) 977-2180 http://www.cl.uni-bremen.de/~stefan/ http://www.cl.uni-bremen.de/~stefan/Babel/Interaktiv/

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DRI: loading wrong kernel driver
by walter harms 31 May '06

31 May '06

hi list, can someone explain to me where the drm kernel driver gets loaded ? (somewhere while X11 starts, i know) I have the problem that some freak loads the i915 driver but i have i830 chipset. More strange the i915 driver gets used (and can not do much sich this is the wrong chipset) and the manualy loaded i830 driver is marked unused (as seen with lsmod). Where should i report ? xorg ? SuSE ? DRI-ml ? System: notebook with SuSE 10.1 re. wh

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RE: [suse-xfree86] Latest drivers from ATI on SuSE 9.3 / version 8.25.18
by Phil Betts 29 May '06

29 May '06

Matthias Hopf wrote on Friday, May 26, 2006 12:03 PM:: > On May 26, 06 02:22:22 +0200, Dieter Jurzitza wrote: >> 402 MHz is a little bit too much for my poor monitor (carefully >> speaking). So, ATI-developers, there is still some work to be done! > > Anlog monitors don't have an upper limit for dot clocks. They have a > bandwidth that describes with which frequency the signal will start > degrading. No hard limit. I was about to make the same point myself, however, I think there is still a problem with the modeline generated by sax2. 401.86 MHz / 2240 = 179.4 kHz horizontal frequency 179.4 kHz / 1300 = 138 Hz vertical refresh rate These frequencies are high for most, if not all, monitors. It strikes me that the dot clock is out by a factor of 2. Halving it would bring the frequencies well within scope of the monitor mentioned (which is claimed to support 160 Hz vertical and 121 kHz horizontal and resolutions up to 1800x1440). Phil -- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the H.E Information Systems Ltd. Tel: 0161 866 9066 Web: www.heis.co.uk This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **********************************************************************

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Latest drivers from ATI on SuSE 9.3 / version 8.25.18
by Dieter Jurzitza 26 May '06

26 May '06

Hi folks, just to let you know: the latest driver is working more or less nicely on SuSE 9.3 (yes, still a dinosaur, especially with regard to the outstanding support of binary only drivers from Novell within 10.1, ;-) ). But forget about my sarcasm. The old bug is still present, the driver writes modelines into the xorg.conf file that cannot be handled by the monitor. So, be careful, do not test your config, you could destroy your monitor potentially! I am using an Elsa ECOMO 750, ATI Radeon 9600, with regard to the rest: please see the attachement! 402 MHz is a little bit too much for my poor monitor (carefully speaking). So, ATI-developers, there is still some work to be done! Take care Dieter Jurzitza Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1600x1200" 401.86 1600 1744 1920 2240 1200 1201 1204 1300 Modeline "1400x1050" 118.42 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1086 Modeline "1400x1050" 140.79 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1092 Modeline "1400x1050" 163.75 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1098 Modeline "1400x1050" 185.75 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1104 Modeline "1400x1050" 209.92 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1111 Modeline "1400x1050" 232.59 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1117 Modeline "1400x1050" 257.84 1400 1520 1672 1944 1050 1051 1054 1124 Modeline "1400x1050" 281.43 1400 1520 1672 1944 1050 1051 1054 1131 Modeline "1400x1050" 305.03 1400 1520 1672 1944 1050 1051 1054 1137 Modeline "1280x1024" 105.15 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1059 Modeline "1280x1024" 125.14 1280 1368 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1065 Modeline "1280x1024" 145.69 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1071 Modeline "1280x1024" 165.29 1280 1376 1512 1744 1024 1025 1028 1077 Modeline "1280x1024" 186.80 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1083 Modeline "1280x1024" 207.19 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1090 Modeline "1280x1024" 229.69 1280 1384 1528 1776 1024 1025 1028 1096 Modeline "1280x1024" 250.74 1280 1384 1528 1776 1024 1025 1028 1103 Modeline "1280x1024" 271.80 1280 1384 1528 1776 1024 1025 1028 1109 Modeline "1024x768" 61.89 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 794 Modeline "1024x768" 73.89 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 799 Modeline "1024x768" 86.18 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 803 Modeline "1024x768" 97.84 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 808 Modeline "1024x768" 110.91 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 813 Modeline "1024x768" 122.97 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 818 Modeline "1024x768" 136.57 1024 1104 1216 1408 768 769 772 822 Modeline "1024x768" 149.05 1024 1104 1216 1408 768 769 772 827 Modeline "1024x768" 161.66 1024 1104 1216 1408 768 769 772 832 Modeline "800x600" 36.88 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 621 Modeline "800x600" 44.13 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 624 Modeline "800x600" 51.73 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 628 Modeline "800x600" 58.73 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 632 Modeline "800x600" 66.71 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 635 Modeline "800x600" 73.98 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 639 Modeline "800x600" 82.55 800 856 944 1088 600 601 604 643 Modeline "800x600" 90.10 800 856 944 1088 600 601 604 647 Modeline "800x600" 97.59 800 856 944 1088 600 601 604 650 Modeline "640x480" 23.06 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497 Modeline "640x480" 27.74 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 500 Modeline "640x480" 32.64 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 503 Modeline "640x480" 36.97 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 505 Modeline "640x480" 42.22 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 508 Modeline "640x480" 46.80 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 511 Modeline "640x480" 51.43 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 514 Modeline "640x480" 57.18 640 680 752 864 480 481 484 517 Modeline "640x480" 62.12 640 680 752 864 480 481 484 521 Modeline "768x576" 33.74 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 596 Modeline "768x576" 40.41 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 599 Modeline "768x576" 47.41 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 603 Modeline "768x576" 53.75 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 606 Modeline "768x576" 61.21 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 610 Modeline "768x576" 67.79 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 613 Modeline "768x576" 75.72 768 824 904 1040 576 577 580 617 Modeline "768x576" 82.67 768 824 904 1040 576 577 580 621 Modeline "768x576" 89.56 768 824 904 1040 576 577 580 624 EndSection -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | \ /\_/\ | | ~x~ |/-----\ / \ /- \_/ ^^__ _ / _ ____ / <°°__ \- \_/ | |/ | | || || _| _| _| _| if you really want to see the pictures above - use some font with constant spacing like courier! :-) -----------------------------------------------------------

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No Window Manager in second X Server with SuSE 9.3
by Joerg Bruehe 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi all! I run an Athlon PC, using SuSE 9.3. My graphics card is a Matrox G 450 (AGP, 32 MB) with the "mga" driver. I have two TFTs connected to it with a traditional Dual-Head setup (independent KDE workspaces with different configurations, no Xinerama). With this setup (no hardware changes !), in SuSE 9.1 I could start a new session as another user, overlaying my current one, and it was fully functional. After the upgrade to SuSE 9.3, such a new session does not have a Window manager running, so the windows lack their borders and title line, and all window manager functions (resize, move, ...) are impossible to do. Is this a known effect, is there some setting needed in 9.3 which was implicit in 9.1, or anything else I can do to make this work again? Just in case someone is curious: I typically have long-running graphic applications, so I can not start them from "screen", but I want to give my wife access to her account with her own KDE and applications when I make a longer break, so I really need two different X sessions for different users, the second one hiding the first until the second terminates. Thanks for hints, Jörg -- Joerg Bruehe - persoenliche Aeusserung / speaking only for himself mailto:joerg.bruehe@web.de

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RE: [suse-xfree86] update breaks cut/paste with middle mouse button
by Alleman, Lowell 09 May '06

09 May '06

I noticed something similar with on my ThinkPad when using the track point device. I enable the "EmulateWheelButton" option to allow scrolling by holding down the middle button, and moving the pointer up/down to scroll. I believe that this is something new in the version of xorg that comes with SuSE 10. Check for config file for the "EmulateWheel" and "EmulateWheelButton" options. I have several mouse drivers setup in my xorg.conf file. The first one /dev/input/mouse0 is always the built-in track point device, and the other is for my USB scroll mouse. I CAN use my middle button on my external USB mouse; but to make this work I had to setup separate InputDevice sections. Hopefully this is helpful or not. If you do have a setup similar to mine, I have a couple more "pointers" that may be useful. (Sorry, for the bad pun). - Lowell Alleman Some xorg.conf stuff: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse[1]" Driver "mouse" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0" Option "Name" "Internal tp pointer" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" ######################################### Option "Emulate3Buttons" "off" Option "EmulateWheel" "on" Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2" ######################################### Option "Vendor" "Sysp" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse[2]" Driver "mouse" Option "ButtonNumber" "5" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse1" Option "Name" "External USB wheel Mouse (usbport1)" Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2" Option "Vendor" "Sysp" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection # rpm -qa | grep xorg xorg-x11-Mesa-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-100.2 xorg-x11-Xvnc-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-scalable-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-server-glx-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-server-6.8.2-100.5 xorg-x11-6.8.2-100.2 (Look's like these are same version that you are using) -----Original Message----- From: Geoffrey [mailto:esoteric@3times25.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:08 AM To: suse-xfree86(a)suse.com Subject: [suse-xfree86] update breaks cut/paste with middle mouse button SuSE 10 here. I've just updated the latest xorg via YaST and after restarting X, with no changes to my config file, my middle mouse button is no longer recognized. Wierd thing is, the scrolling of the button is recogized. Anyone else see this behavior?? xorg versions: xorg-x11-man-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-100.2 xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-server-6.8.2-100.5 xorg-x11-Xprt-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-driver-options-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-sdk-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-syriac-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Mesa-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-static-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Xvnc-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-scalable-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-server-glx-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-6.8.2-100.2 -- Until later, Geoffrey Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe check the List-Unsubscribe header For additional commands, email: suse-xfree86-help(a)suse.com

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update breaks cut/paste with middle mouse button
by Geoffrey 09 May '06

09 May '06

SuSE 10 here. I've just updated the latest xorg via YaST and after restarting X, with no changes to my config file, my middle mouse button is no longer recognized. Wierd thing is, the scrolling of the button is recogized. Anyone else see this behavior?? xorg versions: xorg-x11-man-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-libs-6.8.2-100.2 xorg-x11-devel-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Xnest-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-server-6.8.2-100.5 xorg-x11-Xprt-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Xvfb-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-driver-options-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-sdk-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-syriac-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Mesa-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Mesa-devel-static-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-Xvnc-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-fonts-scalable-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-doc-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-server-glx-6.8.2-100 xorg-x11-6.8.2-100.2 -- Until later, Geoffrey Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. - Benjamin Franklin

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