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Re: [suse-xfree86] X.Org 7 packages available for SUSE 10.1/10.2 (Alpha)
by Stefan Dirsch 07 Sep '06

07 Sep '06

On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 06:07:12PM +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 03.08.2006, 17:43 +0200 schrieb Stefan Dirsch: > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 05:29:27PM +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, den 03.08.2006, 15:41 +0200 schrieb Stefan Dirsch: > > > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 02:58:47PM +0200, Rainer Klier wrote: > > > > and i also noticed that compiz/xgl didn't start/work. > > > i have it enabled, but when installed 7.1 system behaeved like it is not > > > installed/switched on. > > > > Hmm. I would need more details here to investigate this issue. But > > since you're already back to 6.9 ... :-( > > i will try again tommorow.... > does xgl/compiz work with 7.1 on your computer? Honestly I didn't test it yet. Still need to figure out how to setup my KDE desktop to use Xgl/compiz. > > > after returning to 6.9 (which was not easy!), it worked again. > > > > > > > Indeed this is annoying. I've added ' Option "RenderAccel" "no" ' to > > > > > > does that cost performance? > > > > As long as you don't have Composite extensions enabled no. See the > > NVIDIA driver README for details. > > isn't xgl/compiz a "Composite extension"? AFAIK Xgl itself provides the Composite extension. Therefore I don't think Xgl/compiz would make use of the NVIDIA Render acceleration. But I might be completely wrong. Matthias probably knows better and might give us some more details, when he's back next week. > > > i think we need a "suse 10.1 upgrading from 6.9 to 7.1 howto" > > > and a "switching back to 6.9 if something fails howto"..... > > > > Yes, this would be something for openSUSE. You need to remove > > > > /usr/lib/X11 > > /usr/include/X11 > > i had to find out this the hard way........ > some minutes ago ;-) > > the hardest issue was, that i had to do all in text-mode coz after some > while even the open-source "nv" driver didn't work, which worked after > installation of 7.1... > strange! Well, nv/nvidia driver don't like each other. :-( > i need some script or similar to switch quickly from 6.9 to 7.1 and vice > versa. > so i can try/test, and go back quickly if somethink doesn't work. > because i also have to do some work here with my computer ...... ;-) It's a pity, that it isn't usable for you yet, but just to give you an idea for such scripts. Uninstall 7.1: - rpm -e $(rpm -qa|grep xorg-x11) --nodeps - rmdir /usr/lib/X11 /usr/include/X11 - let YaST resolve the package dependancies to install again 6.9 X.Org packages Install 7.1: - rpm -Uhv xorg-x11*.rpm Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------

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[Fwd: Re: [suse-xfree86] X.Org 7 packages available for SUSE 10.1/10.2 (Alpha)]
by Rainer Klier 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

-- einen schönen Tag noch DI Rainer Klier Abteilung IT - Entwicklung ECOLOG Logistiksysteme GmbH Bauernstraße 11, A-4600 Wels Tel. ++43/7242/66200 Fax ++43/7242/66200-200 mailto:kra@ecolog.at http://www.ecolog.at

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X.Org 7 packages available for SUSE 10.1/10.2 (Alpha)
by Stefan Dirsch 27 Aug '06

27 Aug '06

Hi I'm happy to announce the availabiltiy of X.Org 7 packages for SUSE 10.1/10.2 (Alpha). These are still to be considered experimental. Therefore installing them on production system is *not* recommended. See also http://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=xorg7 for more details. Feedback will be appreciated. Please send it to the list and not to me directly. Thanks. 10.1 Download: http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/Java_Sun-Java-1.5_SUSE_Linux_10… 10.2 (Alpha) Download: http://software.opensuse.org/download/xorg7/SUSE_Factory/ <IMPORTANT> Please do *not* use any of the other directories (SLES_9/SUSE_Linux_9.3/SUSE_Linux_10.0/SUSE_Linux_10.1/standard). The RPMs inside are definitely broken and will break your system. These directories only still exist due to bugs in our buildservice and need to be removed for the future. Unfortunately due to limitation in our buildsystem I cannot provide X.Org 7 packages for distributions older than SUSE 10.1. I really tried hard. :-( </IMPORTANT> Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------

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Trouble in getting a Logitech Trackman Marble to work with an USB to Serial adapter
by Lenz Grimmer 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am running SUSE Linux 10.1 on a Thinpad T42 Laptop here. I currently try to connect my old trusty Logitech Trackman Marble FX as an additional mouse device (via an USB to Serial adapter, as the Thinkpad does not have a serial port anymore) and I am facing some trouble. The Trackman has a PS/2 Connector, but also came with a PS/2 to Serial adapter, which I used to connect it to the USB to Serial converter. According to the kernel messages, the USB adapter seems to be detected just fine: [SNIP] usb 1-3.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11 usb 1-3.1: new device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303 usb 1-3.1: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-3.1: Product: USB-Serial Controller usb 1-3.1: Manufacturer: Prolific Technology Inc. usb 1-3.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice usbcore: registered new driver usbserial drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for generic usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for pl2303 pl2303 1-3.1:1.0: pl2303 converter detected usb 1-3.1: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 usbcore: registered new driver pl2303 drivers/usb/serial/pl2303.c: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver [SNIP] Once the adapter is plugged in, a /dev/ttyUSB0 device exists. I added the following to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: [SNIP] Section "InputDevice" Driver "mouse" Identifier "Trackball" Option "Device" "/dev/ttyUSB0" Option "Name" "TrackMan Marble FX" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Vendor" "Logitech" Option "AngleOffset" "10" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "EmulateWheel" "true" Option "EmulateWheelButton" "8" Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "EmulateWheelInertia" "8" EndSection [SNIP] However, the X server does not seem to be happy - the mouse pointer does not move. - From /var/log/Xorg.0.log: [SNIP] (**) Trackball: Device: "/dev/ttyUSB0" (**) Trackball: Protocol: "Auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" "False" (**) Option "Device" "/dev/ttyUSB0" (**) Option "Buttons" "5" (==) Trackball: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "AngleOffset" "10" (**) Trackball: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Option "EmulateWheel" "true" (**) Option "EmulateWheelButton" "8" (**) Option "EmulateWheelInertia" "8" (**) Option "YAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Trackball: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Trackball: EmulateWheel, EmulateWheelButton: 8, EmulateWheelInertia: 8, EmulateWheelTimeout: 20 0 (**) Trackball: Buttons: 9 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Trackball" (type: MOUSE) (II) Trackball: PnP ID string: `(!DLGI8049\\MOUSE\PNP0F0890)' (II) Trackball: PnP rev 1.00 (II) Trackball: PnP-detected protocol ID: -2 (**) Option "Device" "/dev/ttyUSB0" (EE) Trackball: GuessProtocol: Cannot find mouse protocol. [SNIP] I tried a different mouse protocol (explorerps/2), but that did not make a difference. There was no error in the Xorg log, but the mouse pointer did not move either. Does anybody have an idea? Could it be that the USB adapter is not capable of generating enough power to drive the Trackball or is not providing all the required connections? On the bottom of the Trackball device it reads: "5V/10mA". I wonder if I have to purchase a dedicated USB to PS/2 converter instead... Does anybody have any experiences on how these are supported on Linux Bye, LenZ - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer <lenz(a)grimmer.com> -o) [ICQ: 160767607 | Jabber: LenZGr(a)jabber.org] /\\ http://www.lenzg.org/ V_V -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE2e3rSVDhKrJykfIRArQiAJ0UkpsAqAkGxiqG2YuJkYKzz0nD+ACggh6h ZKhakaOCrw4A6kY6V2MKjK0= =WaQh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [suse-xfree86] xterm - configuration in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
by Stefan Dirsch 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Hi SUSE 9.3 ships xterm-200. Changelog for xterm-206: [...] * modify resource files to make the font-resources a little more specific, e.g., changing "*VT100*" to "*VT100.", to make the distinction between VT100.font and VT100.utf8Fonts.font sharper, in case a packager modifies one of those. I cannot reproduce your problem. Maybe you still have "*VT100*" set somewhere, which then will be preferred. Check with "xrdb -query". Best regards, Stefan On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:29:29AM +0200, Dieter Jurzitza wrote: > Dear listmembers, > dear Stefan, > the problem had another root cause: > in 9.3 it says (XTerm) > > *VT100*font: 10x20 > > in 10.1 was > > *VT100.font: 10x20 > > the latter is meaningless for actually changing the display. When putting a > > *VT100*font: 10x20 > > entry into the file everything is ok, the size (in SuSE 10.1) is changing as > expected. Seems like there is a bug in here (or I do not really understand > what happens / what is the meaning / the difference between *VT100*font and > *VT100.font (I mean, I can read, I see a point and an asterisk, but what does > this actually change?)). > If you think this is a bug please let me know, I will enter an entry in > bugzilla. > Stefan, your suggestion is good, but there is no /usr/share/X11/app-defaults > directory here, and I think it is still 6.9 in SuSE 10.1, isn't it? > > Take care > > > Dieter Jurzitza > > > Am Sonntag, 20. August 2006 11:04 schrieben Sie: > ***** > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 10:31:48AM +0200, Dieter Jurzitza wrote: > > You're using X.Org 7, correct? Entries in > > /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/XTerm are now preferred. I suggest to use > > this path for app-defaults by now. > ***** Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------

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xterm - configuration in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
by Dieter Jurzitza 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Dear listmembers, in contrast to my older 9.3 distribution SuSE 10.1 does not react any more on changes to the VT100.font - entry in the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XTerm. This is especially boring when you have huge resolutions and you always have to change the xterm - font manually. Is this a bug or a "feature"? However, the file gets parsed as I can change other entries in the same area (i. e. changing "Default" to "Deflt" in the font-size dialog shows with a restart of xterm. Many thanks for the feedback, take care Dieter Jurzitza -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | \ /\_/\ | | ~x~ |/-----\ / \ /- \_/ ^^__ _ / _ ____ / <°°__ \- \_/ | |/ | | || || _| _| _| _| if you really want to see the pictures above - use some font with constant spacing like courier! :-) -----------------------------------------------------------

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ATI-Binary - drivers & SuSE 9.3
by Dieter Jurzitza 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Dear listmembers, if someone of you runs into issues getting tons of messages like: [fglrx] API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureSGIS **** referring to different function calls (like SelectTextureSGIS here) and you get it both as normal user and as root you're trapped in an ATI-bug. This will hurt you with any 3D-application (test fglrxinfo for example) Solution: (until there is a bugfix from ATI) 8.25.18: replace /usr/lib/fglrx/lib/libGL.so.1.2 by the version from 8.23.7 8.26.18: replace /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 by the version from 8.23.7 This issue showed for me with a Radeon 9200. Hope this is of any help to anyone of you. Different systems (like Unbuntu, Debian) show different results. This here refers to SuSE 9.3 only (Maybe others, but I do not know). Take care Dieter Jurzitza -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | \ /\_/\ | | ~x~ |/-----\ / \ /- \_/ ^^__ _ / _ ____ / <°°__ \- \_/ | |/ | | || || _| _| _| _| if you really want to see the pictures above - use some font with constant spacing like courier! :-) -----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [suse-xfree86] problems ATI express & medion monitor
by Stefan Dirsch 06 Aug '06

06 Aug '06

On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 11:50:04AM +0100, Richard Bown wrote: > On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:39 +0200, Stefan Dirsch wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 09:24:44AM +0100, Richard Bown wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 08:39 +0200, Stefan Dirsch wrote: > > > > Hi Richard > > > > > > > > Such issues should be tracked via Novell Bugzilla. Could you file a > > > > Bugzilla report, please? Thanks. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Stefan > > > > > > OK Stefan > > > But I'm not sure if its a bug, or if it is whether or not its a Suse bug > > > or an ATI bug. > > > > We'll figure this out. But let's use Bugzilla for this. Thanks. > > > > Best regards, > > Stefan > > Hi its bug 117487 I don't think so. Bug 117487 - Tooltips help not appearing for options included in options.xml Anyway, please use Bugzilla for any bug reports / feature requests (severity: enhancement). > I have got a copy of the xorg logfile if needed. > Can I make a suggestion for SAX > Not to use a Xserver if started from a console, and it would be nice if > there was the same facilities that there is on the hardware config > during installation. > To be able to test a config before commiting Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------

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problems ATI express & medion monitor
by Richard Bown 06 Aug '06

06 Aug '06

Hi, First time on this list I hope I can get some help/ answers to thia problem. I've spent all day at a friends with a new install of suse 10.1 on a ASUS P4RD1-MX mobo with an integrated graphics card Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 PCIE. The monitor is a Medion MD7475AB Its known from previous use that this monitor will do 1024x768 @75Hz. SAX2 produces a totally unreadable display resembling a carpet pattern. I've also checked this with another distro, Mandriva 2007, nice but full of some really bad bugs. that was the reason I moved to Suse from mMDV. the xorg.conf file from MDV2007 even though it produced a good display is a bit strange:- Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Plug'n Play" ModelName "MD7475AB" HorizSync 30-63 VertRefresh 50-76 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "ATI Radeon" Driver "ati" Option "DPMS" EndSection XF86drake (MDV thing) says the resolution is 10254x768 @75 Hz. I'm confused here as from the xorg.log the ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 PCIE. is listed for the "radeon" driver. I have tried both ati and radeon drivers, I'm guessing these are the xorg drivers and not the proprietary ATI drivers as they are only up to xorg 6.8. The Suse xorg .conf lokks like this:- Section "Monitor" DisplaySize 300 230 HorizSync 30-63 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "MD7475AB" Option "DPMS" VendorName "MED" VertRefresh 43-76 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection Section "Modes" Identifier "Modes[0]" Modeline "1024x768" 80.71 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 802 Modeline "1024x768" 79.52 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 801 Modeline "1024x768" 78.43 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 801 Modeline "800x600" 48.18 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 626 Modeline "800x600" 47.53 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 626 Modeline "800x600" 46.87 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 626 EndSection Section "Screen" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection As both MDV 2007 and Suse 10.1 both use xorg 6.9 I have problems understanding why one distro's version of xorg can work and not the other. I have tried using the same parameters as the MDV xorg.conf in the Suse xorg.conf. But no change, still an unusable display like a carpet pattern. I've also tried all combinations as a LCD & VESA display, all resolutions from 600x480 to 1400x. Can someone please help with this one. TIA Richard

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Status of Mach64 DRM kernel module for SL-10.1
by Philip Amadeo Saeli 05 Aug '06

05 Aug '06

What is the status of the Mach64 DRM kernel module for SL-10.1? I can't seem to find out anything about it's current status anywhere! I don't see it in either the Xorg 6.9 (xorg-x11-6.9.0-50.17) or kernel 2.6.16.21 (kernel-default-2.6.16.21-0.13) binary or source RPMs. Where or with whom may I check this? Interestingly, in upgrading from 9.2 to 10.1, I notice that 9.2 had the kernel module but not the Xorg driver whereas in 10.1 it is the other way around. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Phil ----- Begin Included Message ----- Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:04:21 +0200 From: Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch(a)suse.de> To: Rafal Zawadzki <bluszcz(a)jabberpl.org> Cc: suse-xfree86(a)suse.com In-Reply-To: <200510181848.24163.bluszcz(a)jabberpl.org> Subject: Re: [suse-xfree86] Still 3Dfx cards in use? On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 06:48:24PM +0200, Rafal Zawadzki wrote: > I know, that this is offtopic question, but why mach64 isn't > supported? Expect to see a mach64 DRI driver in SUSE 10.1, but if you'll also see the required DRM kernel module in 10.1 depends on the upstream kernel sources ... Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------ ----- End Included Message ----- -- Philip Amadeo Saeli SuSE Linux 9.2 [... configuring 10.1 ...] psaeli(a)zorodyne.com

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