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Re: [opensuse-wiki] A Couple of Wiki Items
by Matthew Ehle 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

>>> "Rajko M." 08/04/10 9:56 PM >>> >On Wednesday 04 August 2010 14:53:24 Matthew Ehle wrote: >> Another alternative is to simply redirect users straight to the email >> validation page. What does everyone think? >That should be the best case. The only problem I would have with that is that there is no explanation given as to why all of a sudden users are being sent to validate their email. I know, the page is pretty self-explanatory, but you know what happens when you assume anything out of the end user ;) >The only problem can be with the forums.o.o users. >Do they validate email when subscribe to forums, or they use some equally >efficient method to prevent creation of fake accounts? Not currently, but soon. I am actually working with the forum admin, and he has a very similar bug open on the openSUSE forums. We are test driving the email validation solution on the wiki, and assuming it works, we will be doing the same thing on the forums.

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] accreditation
by Matthew Ehle 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

>>> Henne Vogelsang 08/05/10 4:28 AM >>> >Hey, >On 05.08.2010 11:22, Matthew Ehle wrote: >>>>> C 08/05/10 12:00 AM >>> >> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 06:05, Rajko M. wrote: >>> On Wednesday 04 August 2010 20:21:17 Brian K. White wrote: >>> >>>> I just noticed, perhaps this is petty, but I don't think it's right that >>>> I spent a lot of time writing /LXC (and the init scripts and .spec / rpm >>>> packaging to go with it) and then through no action of my own it loses >>>> all trace of me. >>> >>> The xml file is 3.3 MB, and wiki allows import up to 2 MB. >>> So importing only the last revision was the only way that I know to >> transfer >>> LXC. >>> >>> Maybe Matthew can increase that limit? >> >> I think there's a problem with your XML file if it's that big. An XML >> dump of the entire wiki comes out to about 11 MB, and as detailed as >> that article is, I don't see it being 1/3 of the wiki : ) >> >> I exported the LXC article just now, and it came out to about 25 Kb. > >You did not export the complete history (all revisions) :) *facepalm* That's why I shouldn't send email at 3 A.M. ;) >>>It's a fairly simple tweak to up the Wiki upload limit.... and for >>>what it's worth, I'm 100% behind Brian on this one. One of the key >>>factors in opensource contributions and virtually every single OS >>>license... be it CC, GPL etc. all require accreditation for the >>>contributors (it's not optional).... baffles me why people think it's >>>ok to simply lose all the edit history on the Wiki. :-( That's very >>>much against one of the core requirements and principles of open >>>source contributions. >> >> Yep, it's just a couple entries in the php.ini file. If you guys really >> want, I can up that limit a bit with no problem. >Please up it to 4MB Done.

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[opensuse-wiki] accreditation
by Brian K. White 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

I just noticed, perhaps this is petty, but I don't think it's right that I spent a lot of time writing /LXC (and the init scripts and .spec / rpm packaging to go with it) and then through no action of my own it loses all trace of me. It's almost time to do it all again for a new version of lxc which is significantly different from the currently documented 0.6.5 so it's almost the same research and testing and optimization all over again, and this latest discovery just adds to the already existing disinclination to invest in this wiki. In my "copious free time" I guess I'll look in to what it takes to transfer an article with it's history & metadata from the old wiki.. No I don't want my name plastered in the article itself or anything gross like that in overreaction. It's not like that. The normal built in edit history was perfectly acceptable. Exactly the right level of visibility. But, since that's all there was in the way of accreditation for work, it's pretty bad to erase it I think. It makes me rethink the choice not to just write up internal company docs which would be a lot more convenient, would not move, could be filled with internal company-specific stuff, and which would be more useful for me and useless to anyone else. I hear you guys about how bad the old wiki was and how much more sane the new one should eventually be, so I'm no longer disregarding the work and eventual benefit, but I am requesting that you at least pretend to be a little more understanding of just how much and how bad fallout this move caused, or rather how this move was performed. Even if we _are_ just a bunch of whiners and complainers, instead of people with legitimate grievances, does it make a difference? Do you or do you not want contributors? Do you suppose the people who do not care about such things as broken links and lost accreditation are the more quality contributors and the ones who do care about these things and so avoid this wiki are the crappy ones you don't want anyways? -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Fwd: [opensuse-project] A proposition regarding wiki.opensuse.org
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] accreditation
by Matthew Ehle 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

>>> C 08/05/10 12:00 AM >>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 06:05, Rajko M. wrote: > On Wednesday 04 August 2010 20:21:17 Brian K. White wrote: > >> I just noticed, perhaps this is petty, but I don't think it's right that >> I spent a lot of time writing /LXC (and the init scripts and .spec / rpm >> packaging to go with it) and then through no action of my own it loses >> all trace of me. > > The xml file is 3.3 MB, and wiki allows import up to 2 MB. > So importing only the last revision was the only way that I know to transfer > LXC. > > Maybe Matthew can increase that limit? I think there's a problem with your XML file if it's that big. An XML dump of the entire wiki comes out to about 11 MB, and as detailed as that article is, I don't see it being 1/3 of the wiki : ) I exported the LXC article just now, and it came out to about 25 Kb. >It's a fairly simple tweak to up the Wiki upload limit.... and for >what it's worth, I'm 100% behind Brian on this one. One of the key >factors in opensource contributions and virtually every single OS >license... be it CC, GPL etc. all require accreditation for the >contributors (it's not optional).... baffles me why people think it's >ok to simply lose all the edit history on the Wiki. :-( That's very >much against one of the core requirements and principles of open >source contributions. Yep, it's just a couple entries in the php.ini file. If you guys really want, I can up that limit a bit with no problem. However, there really should be no reason to do it. As I mentioned above, you would have to be pretty much importing an entire namespace to get above that 2 MB limit. I am also with Brian on this. Do we have any other articles that are in a similar situation? I suggest that we find them and either try to import their history or make a mention of the original contributor(s) in the article itself. The latter is easier and it seems like a nice gesture, but I'm not too sure how to fit it in without breaking the flow of the article itself. Maybe in the info boxes?

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[opensuse-wiki] A Couple of Wiki Items
by Matthew Ehle 05 Aug '10

05 Aug '10

Here are a couple of items that I wanted to update you on from my perspective: Spam- After some research, I found that there is an entitlement give to users who validate their email address at https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/protected/validateEmail.jsp. This is the same entitlement required for Bugzilla users. I am working with our iChain admin to get entitlement information passed to the wiki, and then having our login script check for that entitlement. If the user has the entitlement, then the login will continue as usual. If the user does not have the entitlement, the wiki will stop the login and redirect the user to some other page. Since there are probably a number of legitimate users who have not validated their email address, I thought it would be nice if they were taken to a page explaining the new policy and containing a link to the validate email page listed above. I have asked Thomas Schmidt to design such a page to be put somewhere on www.opensuse.org to accomplish this. However, now that I think about it, a better alternative might be to create a wiki page with the explanation and then redirect users there. Another alternative is to simply redirect users straight to the email validation page. What does everyone think? If we were to create a page on the wiki, what would be the best namespace for it? By the way, the bug information can be found at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627446 Search- In addition to http://en.opensuse.org/MediaWiki:GoogleSearch, I have been experimenting with Lucene search, and I have installed it on http://enstage.opensuse.org as a replacement for the default search. So far, it looks really good. Pretty soon, we should be able to have the staging server upgraded, after which I will install the newest version of the Lucene MW search. This version will have much better features. Stay tuned on https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625677 for updates. That's about it for now. Let me know if there is anything else! -Matt

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[opensuse-wiki] A Wiki Q&A?
by Bryen M. Yunashko 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Is there any possibility of considering holding a Q&A session in the -Project channel to do a live quick how-to of *WHERE* to create pages on the new wiki? I am still quite confused by the way pages are created now that we no longer have a new structure. And others are too. Maybe a nice 1/2 hour session sometime within the next week would be helpful as its a barrier right now for me to do my work and know where things belong properly. I think if even just a few people show up for your wondrous lesson, that would be empowering because it will allow those of us who go to then be able to spread the word to others who have questions. Thanks! Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Page Nonefound
by Rajko M. 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Does InputBox work in MediaWiki namespace? It seems yes, but I didn't want to change current page before I hear opinions. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Noarticletext page can be improved
by Rajko M. 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Compare: http://wiki.opensuse.org/MediaWiki:Noarticletext http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Noarticletext Opinions? -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Blocking users
by Rajko M. 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Do we have solved issue with blocking IP when user name is blocked? -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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